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Ben Clymer Knows Money: Landon DuPont Has Arrived, Kopi's Big Day and NHL.com Rankings. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: Great to have you with us here an NHL Unscripted
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  Speaker 1: episode number ninety four. Can you believe we're just barreling
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  Speaker 1: towards episode number one hundred syndication. It's fantastic, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good time in the summer.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about lists.
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  Speaker 1: NHL dot Com throwing at a list of the best defenseman,
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  Speaker 1: best wingers.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll go over that.
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  Speaker 1: Tremendous guest this week, Ben Klimber, a terrific career of
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  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Lightning, Washington Capitals, among others, now.
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  Speaker 2: Doing worth Minnesota Wild.
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  Speaker 1: He's got stories for days about Alexandro Vetchkin, Bruce Boudreau,
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  Speaker 1: John Torrella. Absolutely fantastic, and of course we'll talk with
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  Speaker 1: the NHL News, which is a little bit lean right now.
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  Speaker 2: JD.
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  Speaker 1: So hope everyone's enjoying their summer. To me, summer's albout
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  Speaker 1: baseball barbecues in the beach. You're in Arizona, though, so
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  Speaker 1: no beach there for you. You're not hitting the beach
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  Speaker 1: like tal Or Natives on the West Coast or like
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  Speaker 1: me at the Jersey Shore.
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  Speaker 2: But you're doing a lot of DIY work. Now, how
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  Speaker 2: is that going?
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  Speaker 3: See, I'm just sweating my bag off doing a home
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  Speaker 3: remodel in a hundred and twenty degree heat, just full
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  Speaker 3: tit sweat. Just I told my wife the other day,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, you've you fucking made me get into this
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  Speaker 3: keeping it tight.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, We're never doing this again. Never. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: waiting on, I'm waiting on.
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  Speaker 3: We're waiting on exterior doors right now, so we're almost there.
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  Speaker 3: I I get to watch exterior doors get shipped from
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  Speaker 3: Florida and just stop every two hours and just oh.
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  Speaker 4: But it's been good. It's been good.
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  Speaker 3: I've I've been busy watching the hockey news lack thereof
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  Speaker 3: watching UFC big UFC fans, So I've been enjoying jiu
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  Speaker 3: jitsu is gee, but I've been enjoying the enjoying everything
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  Speaker 3: the UFC has to offer. Dana White Contender series just
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  Speaker 3: started on Tuesday, so again any UFC fans. But it's
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  Speaker 3: been good. How we're uh, are you at the network still? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Doing baseball right now. It's we're still based with baseball
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  Speaker 1: four days a week. But speaking of UFC, I was
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  Speaker 1: talking to my cousin the other day as they kick
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  Speaker 1: at to Nate. He was telling me, He's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: did you watch the White House event? I said, no,
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  Speaker 1: watch UFC is not my thing, but I have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of friends because I'm telling you, dude, this White
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  Speaker 1: House event, it was the greatest specta of all times.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're a UFC guy.
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  Speaker 1: Asking the UFC fans, he goes, they had such a
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  Speaker 1: high barrel, Nate, and he goes, they plowed through it.
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  Speaker 1: I said, but Dana said, I'll never do it again.
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  Speaker 1: He said, well, yeah, like it must have cost so much.
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  Speaker 1: He was, like, the expenditure they put into this thing,
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  Speaker 1: like it was also you guys fite fans. He said,
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  Speaker 1: they alast thirty million, Ate, But do you think it's
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  Speaker 1: worth it just to be able to pull it off
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  Speaker 1: and see you were there at the White House?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely it's worth it. That was That was one of
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  Speaker 5: the coolest things I've ever watched. I mean, just like
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  Speaker 5: when they did it at the Sphere And Dana said
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  Speaker 5: the same thing after the Sphere too. He said, I'll
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  Speaker 5: never do it at the Sphere again, just because it
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  Speaker 5: costs so much. But I mean, I think the spectacle
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  Speaker 5: of it and like watching them do the walkouts and
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  Speaker 5: then walking through the White House and the Oval Office
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  Speaker 5: and all the important rooms like that was that was incredible,
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  Speaker 5: like that'll never happen again. And on top of that,
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  Speaker 5: the fights were incredible, and then the main the main
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  Speaker 5: card was incredible too. So it uh, it didn't disappoint,
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  Speaker 5: that's for sure. So I think I think Dane's got
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  Speaker 5: to keep doing that, keep doing some cool locations I
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  Speaker 5: think would be great.
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  Speaker 2: Which was the fight.
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  Speaker 1: My cousin said, there's one fight like the doctor said,
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  Speaker 1: that's it, it's over.
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  Speaker 2: And then because no, he like, because I've never seen it.
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  Speaker 2: But the guy ru.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me what that the way he just the way
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  Speaker 1: he described it, be like, you know, Russell Westbrook could
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  Speaker 1: just for talking. Russell Westbrook leaves the NBA game, and
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  Speaker 1: the you know, the trainers like no, he can't go back,
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  Speaker 1: and all a sudden, like willis sweet, he comes limping out,
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  Speaker 1: explaining to me what happened.
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  Speaker 3: He quit on the stool, but his face was pulverized.
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  Speaker 3: He put his face into a meat grinder. He's he
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  Speaker 3: was he's a Spanish fighter and by the end he
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  Speaker 3: looked Asian.
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  Speaker 4: But like a warrior.
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  Speaker 2: He hung in there like yeah he.
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  Speaker 3: Took Yeah, he sat his eye like he when they
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  Speaker 3: say like I'm gonna pump your eyes shut. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Like that's what happened, Like he pumped his eyes. She
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  Speaker 3: broke his orbital bone.
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  Speaker 4: Everything.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he was he underestimated Gechie big time, Like
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  Speaker 5: he underestimated tried to go toto toe with him. He
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  Speaker 5: does this thing the night before where he was basically
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  Speaker 5: celebrating his win, his future win the night before, and
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  Speaker 5: then he ends up going to to toe with Geechee
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  Speaker 5: and has to quit on the stool. So hell of
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  Speaker 5: a fight though.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta go watch, go watch all the Ian Gary
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  Speaker 3: stuff though, because in this shit coming out right now
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  Speaker 3: is crazy. There's a fight this weekend. Ian Gary is
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  Speaker 3: on Makachev his wife. His wife wrote a book on
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  Speaker 3: how to be a wag before she met him. She's
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  Speaker 3: like fourteen years older than him. Her ex husband is
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  Speaker 3: his nutrition coach now and lives at the house with them.
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  Speaker 4: The weirdest shit you've ever heard in your life.
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  Speaker 3: So if anybody wants a good read, go look up
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  Speaker 3: Ian Gary if you like that reality TV stuff that's awful.
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  Speaker 2: Her ex husband is his fitness coach currently.
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  Speaker 4: His nutrition coach at the house with them.
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  Speaker 3: He just comes back boxers. I've had that before. They
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  Speaker 3: had a ship, they had a kid together.
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  Speaker 4: They're all living under one room.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know that. Oh yeah, go look it up, buddy.
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  Speaker 4: It's insane.
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  Speaker 3: I guess he's a good nutritional funny. She wrote a book,
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  Speaker 3: eleven page book on how to.
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  Speaker 4: Be a wag.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven page book.
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  Speaker 5: It's a pretty slim volume.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's like a pamphlet.
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  Speaker 2: Guidelines, very long, hard lines, guideline. That's good stuff. All right,
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  Speaker 2: to the hockey we go.
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  Speaker 1: After losing it to the Yanks and just about every
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  Speaker 1: international tournament in the pasture at, Canada rolled over the
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  Speaker 1: Americans eight one last week in the gold medal game,
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  Speaker 1: the Helnka Gretzky kept showcasing the best under eighteen players
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  Speaker 1: in the world. A few stand up performances for Canada
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  Speaker 1: in this game, starting with the defenseman Landon DuPaul, who
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  Speaker 1: had four assists in the game.
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  Speaker 2: The first many discussions would be having.
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  Speaker 1: About DUPONMP but he's presumed to be the top pick
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  Speaker 1: JD the twenty twenty seven draft and playing on a
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  Speaker 1: stacked University of Michigan squad this season.
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah they were.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, that team was was very good, a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of old school hockey. They played tough, they had some depth.
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  Speaker 3: Landon DuPont, I think is he's a he's a he's
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  Speaker 3: he's the real deal. He's I think he's as advertised.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he's a generational guy. But he's very good,
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  Speaker 3: great shot, good skater, competes hard.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think, uh, it's it's gonna be. It's good.
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  Speaker 4: He's he's worth it, and I think it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was nice to get the HOLNCA Cup, get something
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  Speaker 3: for the Canadians and in that fashion beating the dirty Yanks.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it was, it was good. This is gonna
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  Speaker 3: be an interesting, interesting draft year. I think there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of teams that are going to early on this
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  Speaker 3: season might kick the can down the road and try
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  Speaker 3: to get him because he's, uh, he's worth it and
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  Speaker 3: he's a good pillar to have as a defenseman back there.
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  Speaker 5: From what I've heard in that birth year talking to
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  Speaker 5: some guys like that nine birth year, especially for Team
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  Speaker 5: Canada is like crazy strong, like some really good players
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  Speaker 5: coming and Canada's will be coming back again and you know,
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  Speaker 5: I got to watch Land and DuPont a couple of
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  Speaker 5: years ago when I was covering the WHL finals and
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  Speaker 5: watching a little bit before and when they were playing. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: when he played, he plays for Everett, and he jumped
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  Speaker 5: out right away and he was only sixteen at the time,
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  Speaker 5: and he was, you know, he looked like an elite
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  Speaker 5: player out there. So you're right. I mean he's got
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  Speaker 5: something and he's got a lot of ability. And right
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  Speaker 5: right shot, right right shot.
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  Speaker 4: Shot there.
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  Speaker 5: It is like that were hey, we were we were
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  Speaker 5: in sync right there, right shot. Yeah, he doesn't jump
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  Speaker 5: on that. I'm taking right shot, which is which is nice.
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  Speaker 5: Every GM wants that.
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  Speaker 2: So that's good news there.
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  Speaker 1: As far as the future, speaking of future players, there
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  Speaker 1: could be stars already. Talk about the eighth over ball
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  Speaker 1: pick Vigo b York could make the Jets, which will
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  Speaker 1: potentially give them the second line center they've been lacking
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  Speaker 1: for a while. Magnus Hablet, the head coach of the
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  Speaker 1: Swedish national junior team that one goal of Byorke, told
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  Speaker 1: me to recently he wouldn't be surprised to see this
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  Speaker 1: young forward stick with the Jets. Winnipeg needs a rebound
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  Speaker 1: Nate from a brutal season. We know we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: the past and the podcast. Could they trade Connor Hallibuck?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe for now?
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  Speaker 1: Hellibuck stays, they try one more kick of the can.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Buyork could be the answer for this team?
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  Speaker 1: And do you see Winnipeg rebounding and being a playoff
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  Speaker 1: team again?
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  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't see them rebounding to be a
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  Speaker 5: playoff team. And I think it's a lot to do
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  Speaker 5: with this Connor Hellibuck situation and what's looming with that
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  Speaker 5: and what's been talked about. And they you know, they
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  Speaker 5: go out and they sign Stuart Skinner and everyone kind
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  Speaker 5: of scratches their head at that too, knowing that Hellibuck
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  Speaker 5: could be on the move. And I get the the
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  Speaker 5: Vigo Byork situation, but I don't think he's you know,
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  Speaker 5: he's not the answer at your second line center. And
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  Speaker 5: there has been instances where, you know, guys have come
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  Speaker 5: in and people talk about him and his I Hockey
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  Speaker 5: IQ and how well he's going to adapt to the
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  Speaker 5: pro game, the NHL, And there's been instances guys like
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  Speaker 5: you know, Ryan O'Reilly even you know, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 5: compare but Patrice Berger on these guys that came in
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  Speaker 5: at eighteen nineteen, they weren't even the first round pick
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  Speaker 5: and made an impact. So I don't think he's going
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  Speaker 5: to be the answer. Do I think his possibility make
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  Speaker 5: the team, But I don't know if a guy can
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  Speaker 5: come in just getting drafted.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously it's possible, but I wouldn't put all my eggs
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  Speaker 5: in one basket if I'm in Winnipick Jets thinking that
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  Speaker 5: he's going to be the answer.
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  Speaker 4: Uh. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I slightly pushed back on that because I watched him.
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  Speaker 3: I have to do some breakdown stuff. I was doing
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  Speaker 3: some of Evar Stenberg. I think he's one of the
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  Speaker 3: I think he is probably one of two or three
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  Speaker 3: guys that are the most underrated guys in that first round.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's like a trocheck bradon point hybrid. I
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  Speaker 3: think he shuts down top lines, can play a little
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  Speaker 3: power play. I think he's and he's quick. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's going to make an impact. I think he plays
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent this year. I think they need him,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they drafted thinking he's playing this year,
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  Speaker 3: and I think it would be it would be huge
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  Speaker 3: if it does. Listen, I just kind of messing around
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  Speaker 3: on Twitter and doing these like too early to call
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: Central Division rankings of like if we were to rank
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  Speaker 3: the divisions, where would I have Winnipeg And it's like
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  Speaker 3: I had them low because the Central is absolute gauntlet
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  Speaker 3: and I still think they finished bottom too, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. They still have a lot of good pieces
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  Speaker 3: and what they wanted Jonathan Taves to be just didn't
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  Speaker 3: work out. But if a lot of those guys bounce
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  Speaker 3: back at Cole Profetti didn't have a good year, if
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  Speaker 3: he can bounce back, if their decore can bounce back.
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  Speaker 4: Helly's healthy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if we see them
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  Speaker 3: have a bounce back here and Vigo is a catalyst
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  Speaker 3: to that and they end up, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 3: hanging around that fourth spot, battle for a wild card
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  Speaker 3: spot because they think I can probably all but guarantee
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  Speaker 3: that there's going to be what is it five Central
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  Speaker 3: teams in the playoffs again, I think it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be three Pacific, five Central. So if I'm in the Central,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I just got to get that spot because
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  Speaker 3: I can't see a team in the in the Pacific
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  Speaker 3: other than those first three that are gonna do piss
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  Speaker 3: a drop.
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  Speaker 1: The good news to the Jets they do have top
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  Speaker 1: pen talent with Kyle Connor, Mark Stiffley, Josh Morrissey. So
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  Speaker 1: if hell Buck does stay and if he's committed to
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  Speaker 1: the team, then perhaps there is a way that they
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  Speaker 1: do get back to the playoffs. Speaking teams that kind
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: of just you know, need kind of a facelifts in
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  Speaker 1: some ways. LA Kings didn't waste any time honoring the
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  Speaker 1: recent retired captain, a Copitar. They announced the other day
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  Speaker 1: the retire Kobe's number eleven February twenty fourth against the Habs.
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  Speaker 1: They'll also unveiled bronze statue of Copatar outside Crypto dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: So that's gonna be the fifteenth statue Nate outside the arena.
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  Speaker 1: They're Kobe Bryant's statues. Also, think about that, I know
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  Speaker 1: that much. That's a lotifting that Crypto. For comparison, the
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  Speaker 1: Rogers Center finally got one, Joe Carter finally got a
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  Speaker 1: statue now in Toronto's the Blue Jays fans canna appreciate
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: that fifteen and l and I know it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of I know it's a lot of Lakers love, and
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  Speaker 1: I get that chick Hearn's got a statue, But fifteen, Nate, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean, will be number fifteen and it is a new Kobe.
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  Speaker 2: Quick has to get one.
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  Speaker 5: That's where it stops. I think that's where it stops.
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  Speaker 5: Those two is Quickie and Dewey, and then it stops.
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  Speaker 5: But I think statues and were good. Yeah, I mean,
• 12:16
  Speaker 5: hang on, hang on a minute, Nate.
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  Speaker 3: If you hang out, hang around l A long enough,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna get a im.
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  Speaker 2: That just don't go think.
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  Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, Nate Thompson, Thoms.
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  Speaker 7: Hold the mic, hang a long.
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  Speaker 3: You never know. Now they're handing out. They got a
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  Speaker 3: lot of bronze hanging around there. Hey yeah, ot of
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  Speaker 3: precious metals in l A.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy, it is.
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  Speaker 5: I did not know it was that many. But I
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: think that because you know, Dustin Brown has one. He's
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  Speaker 5: on there, so I think Kope has to be there,
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  Speaker 5: Quickie's got to be there and then do it. I
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  Speaker 5: think it stops at Dowdy. It has to after that.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's just those are the core guys obviously
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: got him in the cup. They're Hall of famers minus
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: Dustin Brown, but all the other guys are Hall of Famers,
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  Speaker 5: so I think it's okay. I'm okay with it because
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  Speaker 5: it's copy. I mean, he's arguably the best king of
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  Speaker 5: all time.
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: So Trevor Lewis, I love you, Sorry, Adrian, Trevor Lewis.
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  Speaker 5: Can you look up?
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  Speaker 1: The most story franchise in hockey is the Ones? Now again,
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of these are Lakers statues as well,
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  Speaker 1: but can you look up how these statues are outside
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  Speaker 1: the forum? I know that that's it for are you kids?
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: This is the most storied France? Who are the four
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: Rocket Raschard, Bellevo, who else?
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  Speaker 4: And Jeffrion might be the fourth.
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  Speaker 2: Statue?
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  Speaker 6: No, No Dryden, no Patrick Wall I mean they have
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  Speaker 6: a few other guys they could put out there. I
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  Speaker 6: was gonna because I was gonna make the baseball reference.
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  Speaker 6: The only building I can think of that comes close
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  Speaker 6: to crypto is the the Cardinals building in Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 6: They got a ton of them out there. But that's
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  Speaker 6: that's a historic franchise. I mean, I don't have a
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  Speaker 6: problem with it, But what do you think about that one?
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  Speaker 6: A V I mean, that's a with a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Again rich history for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Saint Louis been listening Cardinals of the second winning
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  Speaker 1: his franchise all the time.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of World Series, if we're.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at you know, Bob Gibson or whatever stars they have,
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  Speaker 1: and they're deserving of it. I just think it's interesting
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  Speaker 1: with La. Like Nate said, it's basketball and hockey.
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  Speaker 4: If it was hockey for the Yankees.
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  Speaker 1: Yankees, well, they've got monument parks. You go to your
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  Speaker 1: own section there in Yankee team. They've got all the statues,
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  Speaker 1: but nothing like outside the way that Elliet of those
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  Speaker 1: other stadiums have, I mean probably the history at very.
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  Speaker 2: Least they also last.
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  Speaker 4: They wouldn't last, and it wouldn't last to New York
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  Speaker 4: out there chance.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Oh captain, my captain. Little less than two months away
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  Speaker 1: from the opening of the season. Ten NHL teams currently
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: without a captain, so a lot of players that you
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: could see getting the sea. But my question you JD,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: is this specifically these teams like the Blackhawks. You go, Okay,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: connor by Dart, your Sharks, Macklin, Celebrini, how soon is
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: too soon to put those guys, specifically those young stars
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: and give them Islanders Shaffer. They don't want captain yet
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: how soon do you give them a sea or do
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: you give it more to a veteran player's been there
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: for a long time Autawa centers, you could say maybe
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: two Stutsla.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: How do you equate that?
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: I mean Columbus. I think you probably slide to Orensky.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: I think they'll clean it up and give it to Orensky.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: San Jose's Macklin. They're going to probably announce it on
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: media day. I can't imagine they wouldn't. Theyre probably gonna
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: make a spectacle of it. Uh, Chicago's got to be
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Bigard whenever he's healthy and back. You maybe give it
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: to Kaner for one year, like I don't know, maybe
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: he'll probably be an assistant.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: You look at Boston, it's got to be Pasta. Got
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: to give it to Pasta. He's he deserves it.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: What ell? What do you got la Quintin Byfield? No,
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: La doubts for one more year and then after that. Yeah,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Dowdy to camp. I think it's easy saying would you
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: give Islanders?
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably i'd maybe I'm trying to think, yeah, I'd
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: probably give it to him other than if not him
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: bo Horvat, but I'd probably give it to Shaeffer, just
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: to it's gonna go to him eventually.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: They might wait one more year.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Vancouver, she's put that franchise to the moon, right they cover.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: There's no clear.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Philiparonic give and that's.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: I mean Anaheim. I'm thinking l Calmer, La Calmer, le Leo.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: If you're if you're giving probably now if you're giving
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Leo eighteen yeah, eighteen. But yeah, I think the biggest
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: lock in the I mean the one, it's it's one,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: I guess. I guess the big question is probably Ottawa too.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Like where you go Jake Sanderson, I would go, I'd
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: go to Jake.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't think of anybody else really, unless this.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Might be the age of a lot of demon getting
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: to see here. You typically i'd go, I'd go Jake
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: to Snake.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: You could argue in Boston to that it would be
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: maca boy as well. He could be he could be
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: the captain too. But I agree, I agree with you.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: I think Pasta has earned it. I think he's a
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: he's he's been a captain like for them team last couple.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Of years and who knows how long he you know,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, who knows where that they're going St.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Louis.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: He ever wants out Saint Louis would be. I mean,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I have Paraco, maybe getting too old. Robert Thomas, front,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: you have Robert Thomas, Bobby Bobby Tommy.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Ottaway, JD. You said Sanderson, Can I
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: sell you on Thomas Schabbot?
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: No, right, no, Shabby won't know. It's probably.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: One more here with Ottawa.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Rue's not in Ottawa anymore.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: He's going back. He's going back.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: He's going back one more year. Got this fucking I
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: could see that.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: Give it to g for one year and then.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: After that, or Drake Bathson, Yeah, the bath Man. But
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: I like, I like Sanderson, and then Vancouver. I couldn't
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: tell you somebody on Vancouver.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: It'll be Malhotra. They just they just select what.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Give it to Manny. Let Manny just wear it on
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: his suit. He's our coaching, our captain players, coach.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Get it.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, last topic before we get to benk Climber. Billy
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: coivin and had two goals, seven points thirty nine NHL
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: games last season.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: As Jason de Murs gives a hardy chuckle.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: He split time to the Penguins and their HL club
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: in Wilkesprace Crayton. So naturally the Penguins had to lock
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: him up for not one, not two, not five, not six,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: not seven, eight.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Years and thirty two million dollars.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: The contracts that summer have been historic, starting with the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Leo Carlson offer sheet, the Monster deals for celebrating but
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: dark but villy, no offense.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: The rest of these players, but Jada, this one, this
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: one blew your head opened.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, as Ben climbers a Joyce one Matari and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: say he's never jealous, but these contracts, this is one
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: which you you felt personally aggrieved. You went right to
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the rank in Arizona then said I gotta come back
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: for one more year.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Historic or hysterical, I says, no, I listened. We're a
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: players first, you know, we want guys to get paid
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: players only. But I have to somewhat kind of go.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: It's one of those who are like, oh shit, okay,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: you know I think there was a couple like I
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: had to, you know, nothing against him. I had to
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: look up the Hockey dB yeah and kind of check, like,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: you know, he's been around for a little bit.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Did I miss something right?
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe he hit a better year that I realized yeah, and.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, okay, like they must see
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: something that I do not see, because that is a
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: lot of money to commit to somebody on a team
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: that I was. Again, we I did my too early
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: to call standings for the Metro. I don't have pit
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: that high. I have pit at kind of the bottom
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: right now, just with I don't think they got any
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: better question marks at the goaltending position and up front.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: You know, they didn't really do a ton.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: They resigned some young guys, but I don't know with
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Philly Coyven and I I a time will tell, I
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: guess and it's one of those in five years we'll see.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: But this is like a pure eng ball written all
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: over it, where like you're again are you you're kind
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: of your hand is forced to play this guy now?
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, Yeah, this one is uh, it's it's changed,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: and I guess, you know, we look at how gms
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: are signing guys compared to when we were playing. I'm
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: not gonna be old timer, but it was you were
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: paid based on you know, what you what you were doing,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: and now it seems like you know, you're you're gonna
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: be paid on what you what they what we think
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: you're going to be able doing. And I was trying
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: to think of comparisons of guys that in the last
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: few years that got paid like this without really producing.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know Samuelson from Buffalo. I know everyone
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: scratched their head obviously when he got his deal at
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: first because he hadn't scored a goal yet, and I
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: know he's not paid to do that, but it was,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: you know, one of those situations where it's like, all right, well,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: what are they what do they see? Maybe that's a
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: bad comparison, but this one is.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Was like Samuelson was like hampered by injuries when he
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: got it. It wasn't yeah you saw what was that?
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: And he's got the pedigree cove in.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: It's kind of like, yeah, this one is I don't
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: know if we've ever seen something like this like this,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: like this amount of NHL games and he gets paid
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: for this long. I think this is a first. I
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: was trying to think about different guys and there's no
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: comparison to this, and.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Then you can attest to this.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: These are one of those signings that if you are
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: on the desk and this comes up, you are fucking
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: grasping at straws to try to come up with something
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: to fill that five minutes. You know what, you've been
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: there and Nat and and you'll you'll you get there
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: and somebody's like, we got to talk about this, and
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: you're like, I got nothing.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I got nothing. There was the only comparison I found
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: one comparison.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: It's Frank Nazar signed a seven year deal after playing
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: about two dozen games. But that's like, well a top
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: ten pick, Frank top fifteen pick, which is.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Not listen, I will tell I'm gonna tell, I tell
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: you what he's going to be. I don't know if
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know sometimes if that's doing a disservice to
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: the player because you put him under the microscope and
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: the pressure. Yeah, you get that freedom of security, but
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: you know you're immediately you're immediately judged on it. You know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: you're there's a veil that's just ripped off and you're
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: not really If he has a bad start, Dan Muse
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: pulls him into the office. He says, fuck, you got
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: your contract. Why aren't you working hard? Why aren't you
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: this and that and that and that. So it's like
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: everything kind of gets more scrutinized. So it's tough, but
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: listen to congrats to him. He's rich baby.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm with you guys.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I think it puts pressure on the coach, like now
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the pressure's on Big Dick Dan Muse because now they're like.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: How can you not play this guy? What do you mean?
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Hard to say?
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Guilty?
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: Is charged?
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Still to come here in NHL and script, we'll talk
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: to Ben Climber. He's got stories for days and he's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: smart with this money. How should I invest? He's a
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: financial planner. Maybe he'll tell us and save us all
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a bunch of money. Next our next guest draft in
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the second round, twenty seventh overall by the Boston Ruins
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: of the nineteen ninety seven NHL Draft. He went on
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to play in four hundred and thirty eight regular season
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: games the Lightning and Capitals, winning the Stanley Cup with
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in two thousand and four. He could be
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: seen on television and his native Minnesota covering the wild
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: University of Minnesota and the fabled Minnesota State High School Tournament.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: As if that wasn't enough, he's also a certified financial
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: planner who needs some advice on their money.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Let's talk to Ben Climber. Hey, Ben, good to see you.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: Hey, thanks for having me looking forward to really appreciate.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: It, of course our pleasure.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: How has this summer been so far? Have you been
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: keeping track of the contract numbers being thrown out? Speaking
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: of finances, some of these NHL players getting rich.
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: Huh, it's a good time to be a player. And
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: I but I've always cautioned this, like as a player,
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: you play with some guys and they'd be so bitter
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: about the way the money is now. I never want
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: to be that guy. But wow, guys are certainly, you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: getting paid and good for them.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Ben, I just you know, going into financial planning, was
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: there something when you were playing that led to you
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: wanting to do this? Or maybe a moment in time
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: you with your finances, are seeing some players the way
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: they handled their money, because you know what it is,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: it is a different world and it's a different landscape
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: in the NHL now, just just in terms of the
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: monetary money that's coming in. But back then you could
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: say the market's different. So is there anything any story
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: that kind of led you to this path.
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: It's a funny story. And Nate will certainly appreciate this
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: because you know some of the key characters. I was
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: super fortunate Brian Lottin was my agent, was just a
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: tremendous influence in my life and helped me a ton,
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: and so I wanted I thought I wanted to be
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: an agent when I was done. So I got done
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: playing and I sat down with Michael yout who was
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: running out to God Hockey at the time. I said, Mike,
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: I want a job. He's like, well, I'm not hiring you.
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: I'm like, no, no, I'm not like really asking you.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you I'm starting. And he's like, you need
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: to go back to school. He's huge, you know, he
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: got his law degree. And I respect the heck out
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: of Mike. And I'm like, okay, Mike, I'll go back.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: I get it. And he goes, so, by the way,
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: you're going to be a terrible agent. I'm like, what
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: are you talking about. It would be a great agent,
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: like I learned from Brian and all the things. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: he goes, no, this is why you're going to be
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: a bad agent. And I'll save that story. But it
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: is kind of funny. And basically it's like, you need
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: to have a lot of young kids and now they're
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: chasing the thirteen year old kids around and that doesn't
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: sound like a lot of fun. But I was going
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: back to school at you know, the urging of Mike,
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: and well, well I was going back to school. I
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: emailed every GM in the league because after Mike told
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: me I was going to be a terrible agent, I'm like, well,
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: maybe I'll be a GM. And I was sitting down
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: with the guys as they were staying at the Saint Hotel,
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: have coffee with them, ask about their stories, what they enjoyed,
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: what they you know, are embarrassed about. Great to hear them,
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: you know, kind of tell their tale. And as I
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: was going back to school, I was taking a portfolio
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: management class and I, in the same process says ted Ley,
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: osis wrote my letter of admission to get into business school,
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: which I was super thankful for. And when a guy
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: like ted Ley Oltsis, who's a billionaire, writes your letter
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: recognition me, you don't send him a golf sure, right?
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: And so I did an overview on the Washington Capitals.
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: There are current players contracts, all the players in hershey
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: had all their draft picks and said, okay, this year,
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: this is how you look next year. You're going to
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: look like this, and the third year going to look
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: like this. Here's players that are moving out here, players
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: that are going to work their way up into the
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: line up here. So I would trade super fun by
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: the way, to trade people on paper have no consequences.
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: Oh it was great. And so I was going through
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: all this process and I sat in the portfolio management
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: class and instead of looking at the players in the
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: depth chart, I was looking at asset classes. And I
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: knew I didn't want to do a lot of moving around.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: I'd prefer to just stay in one spot as I
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: was having a young family. And that was kind of
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: my AHA moment where I was looking at asset classes
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: versus players, but using the same kind of part of
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: my brain that I looked at, you know, through the
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: hockey line. So that was my moment where I'm like,
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: you know what, this might be a great fit for
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: me and got in the business and started rolling from there.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Benny, from that experience and I guess, you know, putting
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: on your pseudo GM hat, you know, I guess now
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: with the league and where it's going, and you said,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: with the financial landscape, like what do you see like
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: you put your GM back hat on and what do
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: you see these contracts, Like, what do you see coming
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: in near future with some of these guys.
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: Well, it's so interesting. So when I got in the league,
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: everyone was you know, waiting and persevering to get to
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: free agency or unrestricted free agency in your third ever.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: And now it's like, oh my god, I just have
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: one good year and it's like, you know, you're just
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: ringing the bell. And so that that obviously is a
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: huge paradigm shift for the league, and they're having to
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: take you know, bigger and bigger risks. And right now,
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: with the Soudar cap going up, there's room to make
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: a few mistakes. However, if it doesn't go up, or
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: if there is you know, economic turmoil, I think, you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: there's going to be some teams holding the bag and
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: some contracts that can't get rid of and that's going
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: to be a struggle for them. But I mean, right now,
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: if out of your edge level deal you have a
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: great third you know season, you're basically looking at you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: six to you know, seven, eight years almost getting laid
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: out for you. I think that's different. I don't know
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: that that's great, but that's the landscape. And kind of
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: the rules of the game today. As long as the
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: cap keeps going up, things will work out. If the
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: cap doesn't go up one year, you are going to
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: separate the good gms from the play the gms that
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: are really just you know, making guesses. And I think
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: that that's something you know that right now is goes
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: a little bit under the radar. I mean, I think
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: Bill Garrion in Minnesota's done a great job. But then
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: I look at Steve Eiserman like people are giving him
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: a hard time in Detroit, but look at Tampa, like,
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: make no bones about it, like he set the foundation
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: for that franchise to move forward. And certainly Julian's done
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: a great job there, but that has his fingerprints over
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: it to this day. I think it's interesting that he's getting,
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: you know, a lot of negative press in Detroit, but
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: everything that is core to Tampa is basically Steve's doing.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: It's a great point.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I want to talk further about Tampa because, as you said, Ben,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: when you were there, you know it was not a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: model franchise has turned into that, but the team really struggled.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Vincent Lacavalier was the youngest captain of hockey history at nineteen.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: What was it like in those early days in Tampa.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, guys, it's funny. You get to the
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: NHL and you think, like, oh my gosh, the coaches
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: and everything are going to be great. But we had
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Steve Ladzick as a coach. When I walked in, this
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: guy was wearing a zoot suit. Every night, he was
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: smoking a cigar. And the six games a year we
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: would win and I was thinking what and like, what
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: in the world is going on? You could get tickets
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: at a gas station for our games. We were so
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: fricking bad. But then all of a sudden, Tortorella took
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: over when they fired Lozic, and there was a word,
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: and a new word came into the the franchise and
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: it was called accountability. And that was the difference. And
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: he established accountability. And if you think, I mean the
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: guys think towards is tough right now, he's like a freaking,
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: you know, a puppy out there compared to the way
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: he used to lose his mind on players like and
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: I won't name these two players, but I've seen him
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: make two players cry in video session, two players grown
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: men cry and one of them we traded within the
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: next three.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Days, who'd you trade him to in in what year?
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: And then we'll get our We'll get our.
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: Exactly, exactly exactly.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Give me I mean is that we always have to ask,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: like anytime Torderella's name comes up as a group, where like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: what's give me your best Tortorella story that either happened
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: to you or or you saw. I know, maybe it
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: could be the video, but I'm sure there's other ones
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: that were just absolutely incredible the video.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: This is how video session goes with torts. Like, first off,
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: you know, he runs a pretty high practice, up paced,
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: up tempo, and so at the end he'd be like, okay, guys,
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: you got fifteen minutes, and then everybody you know, be
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: in the locker room and be comfortable. We're going to
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: be there for a while, and so you'd get your
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: stuff off, you get a you know, water, whatever goe
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: to be. Sometimes you get a hot pack for your
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: back because you're going to be there for a while
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: instead of an ice pack because you don't want to
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: lock up. So a perfect example, we traded once for
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: this guy named Za Daniel Seeger and we call him
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: Bob Seger. Really nice guy, but he had no idea
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: what he was walking into. He traded Matthew Barnaby for him.
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: And first video clip comes up and he's sitting right
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: next to me on the locker room and the puck
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: goes from like the d up to the wing, hits
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: him on the tape. He kind of looks in the middle.
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: He's going to like, you know, sauce it to the
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: center or whatever. Hit somebody turnover goes the other way,
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: Borts hits the you know, hits the stop. But he's like, ah,
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: what were you thinking there? He's like, wow, I got
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: the pass and I saw whoever going through the middle,
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: So he's gonna try to sauce it over and do it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: He's like yeah, so like what are you doing? And
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: he's like that's the same thing again, and Tour's like, okay, yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: so what are you doing? And so finally he figures out.
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: He's like, oh, yeah, I screwed up. I can't make
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: that play. Next clip, Bob again in the wall turnover,
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: same deal. Next clip, follow in the wall, turn off,
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: five clips in a row.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Five. Yes, the whole room.
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: Is just like it's dark, it's pitch black. He's like
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: in his chair like this he's gonna you know, doesn't
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: have any idea what he walked into. But that was
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: the deal with Tort's like if you had the puck
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: on the wall, like it had to get out and
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: he didn't care. How like, yeah, if you can make
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: the past to Brad Richards and already saying that they're
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: gonna go do something special, awesome, good on you. But
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: what you can do is turn it over, Like you
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: might as well carry that thing in your teeth across
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: the blue line before you turn that thing over.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, Nate, isn't that the best thing when you're
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: when the coach, Like sometimes you get some good coaches
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: will like come grab you before and you're like you're
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: gonna get it in the meetings. So just like, hey,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: just handle like a big boy in like five straight clips.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Oh you got you couldn't be any smaller that room,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: that room can't be dark enough height, Oh my god.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: He had no clue that was coming. I don't think
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Torch was giving him a heads up on that one.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Most likely he had, I mean.
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: No idea if I like, if anybody would have known,
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: like somebody would pull him aside and said Hey, dude,
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: just admit you made a mistake. You have to be better,
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: et cetera, et cetera, be accountable. But he wasn't ready
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: for that, nor would anybody be ready for that. But
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: that's just the way it was.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I love that he called him Bob too.
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: Hey Bobby, here's like, here's a classic story. So I mean,
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: we win the Cup, lockout happens. I signed in Washington
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: and our team is an it's a country club, like
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: it is a complete country club. So we play in
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: Tampa and I'm walking by the visitors room and I
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: see Nolan Pratt, who's my roommate, and I'm like, and
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: we probably get smoked by Tampa, who don't say we
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: lose by four, which is maybe have bend six. And
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: I'm walking by the locker room and I'm like, at
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: this point in the year, we've already lost enough games
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: in Washington where I'm like, gosh, you know, being accountable
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: and you know being stressed out every day is hard,
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: but if that's the cost of winning, I'll take it.
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: I walk by the locker room talk to Nolan. He's
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: just miserable because Torts is pressing on him so hard
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: every single day, He's like, I would you know, I
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: want to We'd love to get moved here, get moved there.
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, hey, buddy, I would drop this bag
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: and run back into that locker room if I could,
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: because the team wins. And sure practice is hard and
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: there's stressed every single day, but success is certainly worth it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: A guy we both played with many Mary Saint Louis,
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: he obviously raved about towards too. You know, I want
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: to talk about Marty though. You know you play with
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: him in his twenties and he kind of took that
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: next step in his career. Did you think that he
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: would get into coaching and be ahead coach like he
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: is now when you played with him.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean from a standpoint of like, do I
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: think that Marty really understood the game to a higher level, Yes,
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: for sure, But also you look at some guys who
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: have some great success and like, do they want to
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: put the work in because there's like they're spending so
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: much time at the rink these days. That would have
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: been really the question for me. And in understanding his
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: family situation and I know his kids were a little
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: bit older, which allowed him some runway to then get
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: back into the NHL coaching versus coaching his kid. Yeah,
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: I'm always a bit surprised and kind of how it
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: went down. I think was super unique and he was
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: a kind of off the wall higher at the time.
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: But as far as his knowledge and his attention to detail,
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: being a smaller guy like he had to play smart
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: a lot. Body position mattered for him. His quickness was
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: his gift, but he certainly had to make up for
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: some of his size and all the things that I'm
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: sure he's undressing, you know, through video and probably a
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: huge advocate for Cole Coffield in particular, who was I
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: believe I'm already Saint Louis was Cole Coffield's favorite player
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: growing up, which has to be super cool for him.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Oh you mentioned the fact playing in Washington play with
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the Alexander Robatchkin ever always talks to any about his
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: incredible goal against the Counties No.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Six.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: They don't talk enough of about how you got the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: winning goal in that game. Do you ever bring that
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: up to him?
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: You know, no, you don't. What a what a unique
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: guy teammate like he is a caricature and even to
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: this day when you see him, you're like, does anybody
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: have more fun than the league than that guy. Like
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: he's always laughed. Now if I had nine hundred goals,
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: I'd freaking be smiling too, Don't get me wrong, but
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: he he is, you know, fun to see his success.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: I was his roommate in training camp, his first training camp,
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: and I like knew a little bit about him, but
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: I didn't know and nobody expected him to be what
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: he is today. And I remember walking into the hotel
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: room and this freaking mutant is playing PlayStation of the
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: Washington Capitals and he's made himself on the team, and
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: I'm just like, what in the world, Like what did
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: I do to get this? Like just George McBee pissed
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: at me, like what this sucks? And he can't really
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: speak English at the time, but he's very passionate about
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: wanting to learn English. And I look back on it
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: makes me laugh, like all the things they'd be like, Oh,
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: we're gonna go get dinner, and like during training camp,
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: just get out of the hotel because the hotel is
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: poisoned in my eyes in training camp because it's just
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: full of guys are going to get sent to the miners.
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: The more he can get out of the hotel, the better.
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: But he certainly, you know, was a different player when
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: the lights turned out and to start the regular season
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: training camp, he was good, but not like I think
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: I've heard Jefferson talk about this as well. All of
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: a sudden, the regular season lights came on and this
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: guy's like, Okay, I'm in now I'm gonna start scoring.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: What do you think makes it that way for him?
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Because you know, you also saw him when he's so young,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: and and do you ever sit back and watch and
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: could you have predicted when you saw him and saw
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: the way he acted off the asanes, that he would
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: have gotten to this milestone and be the greatest goal
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: scorer NHL history.
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think that you score fifty plus
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: your rookie year, certainly there's a trend line that is unique.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: But to have the longevity and the health that he's had,
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: I think is you know, pretty special and important. He's
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: a strong, big bodied guy right from the get go.
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: I mean his fingers look like my thumb, like just bigger,
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: like he's just at nineteen that year, I mean he
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: had to be two hundred and twenty five pounds like
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: he was, and it wasn't fat, Like this guy's just
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: a horse, and so I can't say that anybody was
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: going to expect that. But I remember looking him going
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: in nineteen and I didn't look like that at nineteen,
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: Like I don't look like that, you know, ever, But
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: he's certainly strong and just has that kind of like
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: almost that farm kid strength that you would say with
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: like the Western Canadian players.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: You played in Hershey for Bruce Boudreaux and that you know,
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: he gets a promotion to the Caps.
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: What was.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: American Hockey League?
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, so my Bruce Boudreau experienced ranges from seeing
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: him in Hershey to seeing him get called up and
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: he's like a player getting called up. He's so excited
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: that then covering him with the wild and so there's
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: like a lot of time and he's grown and you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: had success in the league. He was great. But I
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: think when he was in Hershey that was like his
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: comfort space. He was a legend there. He could his
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: teams were always good, and he cared like he was
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: really good about developing hockey players, and I appreciated that
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: out of him. I was on the other side of
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: it where he's like, hey, I know you don't want
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: to be here. We're going to try to do the
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: best we can to make your situation better, maybe get
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: traded whatever. I was really happy for him when he
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: got caught up. I thought x's and o's he was.
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: He was really good when he got to the wild.
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: You know, he'd had success in Washington, he'd been and Anaheim.
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: You know, then he was just I felt like he's like,
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: screw it, I'm good, Like I cared less. He doesn't
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: trying to be buttoned up. He's like, I don't need
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: I'm just gonna be authentically me. And that's the Bruce
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: where I like enjoyed and just kind of chuckled because
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: he may have his tie and one thing might be
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: up like this, and he doesn't care. He's just like,
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: this is great and I'm comfortable. I'm gonna coach and whatever.
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: He's a beauty but smart, smart hockey coach.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Did you ever be cause we you know, me and
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Adnan famously had Pat Maroon on and Pat Maroon took
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: us through his pregame meal and was one of the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: funnier clips we ever put up.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you ever had any because we
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: work I work with him at the net. We all
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: work with the network.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: And ye, I mean it is just what you described
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: him in many is what he is now of like
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: he's just such an amazing human being, so nice, so
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: great with his time, like loves Wwe like to the Instagram,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: which is like the weirdest thing and but like just
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: so funny. But you know, I don't know if you
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: have any I don't want to tunk on him again. No,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I mean stories are the best because he admits that
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: he's like I.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Love to eat.
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: I would say this, and I can't give you for
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: instance of like I watched him like buring like three
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: chicken palms or something. But I will say that I'm
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: sure that he knew, Like you know, when you're in
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: the miners, you fill out the thing in the front
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: of the bus or whatever, and then your food shows up.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: I can promise you he could probably walk you through,
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: like Okay, we're here and we're playing Rochester. I'm ordering
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: this off the sheet because he probably had them all
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: memorized or whatever and was just crushing him in the
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: front of the bus. But I don't have anything it's
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: specifically about it. But yes, he liked to eat. Wasn't
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: shy about it, and uh, you know wore that well
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: last one for me.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Ben.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: With regards to the finances, again, how big a factor
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: is state tax and players choosing where to sign and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: how challenging is the Washington state millionaire attacks to the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: cracking because edge of and Oski among former Panthers, I said, hey, guys,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you know there was no state tax back in the day.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Like everyone to think that now this is the thing
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: directing all these players.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: But how much of a challenge is it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: It's it's a it's a massive and I mean, you know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: business talked about I think like kind of blew up
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: the topic saying, gosh, the league should should make amends
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: to make this this whole. Gary's come on and said, well, look,
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: you know, go to yesteryear and and when I was
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: in Tampa, it's like nobody cared. The team was brutal,
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: so people didn't want to sign in Tampa. But what
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: you've had this you kind of had a number of
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: things collide together. Number One, the Southern teams have gotten good.
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: They're not expansion teams anymore. There's solid businesses that have
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: veteran players and now they have lots of Stanley cups
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: behind them, salary caps going up. I think this though
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: players are also more educated. I'm going to walk you
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: through this an area that we walked one of our
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: players through last year. They got an offer from one
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: of the Canadian teams and rough math it was five
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: y five, so twenty five million bucks. Then they got
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: an offer from a tax friendly environment that they kind
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: of sort of would be willing to go to, but
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: they wanted to go to a lot more than going
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: to this Canadian city. And so we're having a conversation
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: about it, and I said, look like, let's go post tax,
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: let's forget pre tax. Let's look at what's actually going
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: to go in your genes, like how much are you
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: actually going to put into your account? And it was
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: surprising to him how much more he was at actually
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: going to make with a lower AAV plane in a
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: tax friendly state. And that was a huge part, if
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: not the nail in the coffin for the Canadian team.
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: And I don't say that you know and want to
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: bang on Canada, it's just the economics right now are
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: very difficult for them. And then if you look at
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: those teams too, you know, is it the carters at
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: the horse. Are they bad because of the tax? Are
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: they bad because they're poorly run? Well, I would say
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: a lot of them have both going in their favor
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: right now or both negatives. And so it's easy to say,
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: you know what, I don't want to go deal with
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: the travel, the currency, the media. It's just easier to
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: go play in Carolina. Like it's not zero tax. But
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: you know what you're after. Practice activities are postgame expectations
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: are tenfold either in playing in Montreal, Vancouver, you know
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: you going right down the list.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Well, let's throw Minnesota in there, because we've got to
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: talk a little wild for you talking Quinn Hughes and
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: con tracks in what your thoughts are finance wise with
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: the Minnesota Wild and how do they get this thing done?
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: With Quinn and you know you live there, and we
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: talked a little bit before we came on air of
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: just you know how Minnesota is a desirable place for
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: guys to live post career. But has it become enough
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: and is it enough, you know, tax wise and city
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: wise to kind of an entice a guy like Quinn
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Hughes And what do you think it's going to take
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: for them to get this done.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: Well. I mean, tax wise, we're a bit of a
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: nightmare transparently. I mean, we are a high tax state
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: and we've been you know, I hate to say it,
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: but we've been the laughing stock of the US for
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: lots of things politically motivated that we don't need to
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: touch on, but it may matter to some individuals. I
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: had Jim Hughes as my coach when I played in
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: the KHL, so that's interesting. I saw him at some
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: of the playoff games. I don't know this to be true,
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: but I believe that I'm probably closer to right than
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: people would believe. Certainly, the money matters. However, I think
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: when Quinn came here, he was probably thinking significantly different
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: than he thinks today because he was thinking, look, I'll
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: play this thing out and I'm going to go somewhere else. Well,
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: he shows up and is a tremendous fit with this
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: hockey team, and I think he had a lot of
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: fun and the team had a lot of success, and
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: the community loves him like he's electric to watch. I mean,
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: any young defenseman in the state of Minnesota, if you're
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: not watching Quinn, he was like, you're doing something wrong
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: or you better be watching Brought Favor. The way I
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: see the world, I think it's more about them continuing
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: to build a winning opportunity, Like I think that matters more.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: He's going to get the money. If he gets eighteen
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: million or nineteen million or twenty two million, like, what's
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: the difference? His kids kids are going to have to
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: figure that out. It's not going to matter to him
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: if I was, you know, talking with him. That's the
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: most important question. Is this a money decision or is
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: this a winning decision? I think the money's already spoken for,
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: Like he's going to get enough of it, and he
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: could he could take all of it if you wanted.
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: But he can't take all of it and win. And
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: I think he's smart enough to figure that out. And
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: so I believe the contract is more about or the
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: discussion points are what else are you going to put
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: on the table that is going to get this team
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: over the hump? Which leads to some of the Dylan
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Larkin conversations. Certainly, you know Austin Matthews. I mean, we're
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: talking about American players who played for Bill Garrand, and
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: so that's easy. But you know Bill's going to continue
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: to be aggressive, and I think that that's, you know,
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: very attractive the players out there, and I think Bill's
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: approachable and he's smart, and I think all the players
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: do appreciate that.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Country's one thing, but once you got to get the
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: wamp them involved with Quinn Hughes and his relationship with
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Billy G I think it changes a little bit. But
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: I had one more. I was just looking before we
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: came on uh.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Uh to talk to you. You played it.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about OV and DC, but
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: you played with my boy Eric Fair and I had
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I had a great story with him because I played
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: in Russia with him our last years, trying to make
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: it to the Olympics. And we're sitting at a at
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: a restaurant. We're sitting at a bar together having drink.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden his phone rings and we're like,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: you know, a month into the season, and he looks
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: at me and he goes, it's OV calling me right now.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: And he goes, it's it's OVI on FaceTime. And we're
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: in like, I can't remember where we were.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: We're on the road, and he picks up the phone
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: and it's OV crushing beers going.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: You motherfucker you were.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: You were making fun of the Khel and he goes, look.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Or you're playing.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: He goes, you're playing a mother in Russia and he's
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: just crushing beers and Fansier is telling me how much
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: you just ship on the KHL to him and how
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: bad of a league it is.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: And then it just like so funny how he ended
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: up there.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: But I mean talk, I mean talk about fairs. He
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: just a locker room guy, T two tea, and I
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: just can't imagine him and Ov matching up together and
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: how that looked, especially both them young.
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean Eric was is and was incredibly talented
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: to be looking at some of his junior stat lines
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: and he was so yeah, he could he could put
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: it away. I mean, he could fly in a terrific
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: guy like you could argue that he would have been
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: quite a bit more successful if he would have just
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: been an absolute prick out there at twenty four to seven.
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: He was, you know, a gentleman even during the game
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: when he was scoring. Score nice on you like probably
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: like I'm sorry about that, but you're not good enough.
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: I'm just gonna blow your tires off right now. But
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: I thought Eric was awesome. You know, a good, good human,
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: good locker room guy. He's been interesting to uh. You know,
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: as I was exiting as he was coming in to
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: follow him, because I was dating my wife at the time,
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: and she's like, that guy's really good. Like you're slow
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: out there, but that guy looks like he's going fast
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: all the time. And I'm like, yep, that one's going
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: to work out. And if anything, I mean, he had
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: some injuries in his career. Had he been healthier, I
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: think the numbers he would have put up in the
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: NHL would shock a lot of people. But if you
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: played with them, and you know, you played against him,
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: I mean, he did have that kind of talent where
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: he I could have seen him scoring forty goals in
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: the NHL for you know a number of years with
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: his talents.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he ended up in rush with me.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he scored fifty at will in the WHL. It
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, so, how was how was your time
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: as you were finishing it in Russia? Like what was
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: your experience over there? I know it's different for every
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: single guy. Everyone has some stories, So I'm sure you
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: got the best.
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: I didn't. I didn't know totally what I was getting
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: into I would say I look back on it better
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: now than I did at the time, But there was
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: some funny things. I mean, so I came over a
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: little bit late. They'd already fired the first head coach,
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: and Jim Hughes was the head coach, and so so
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: I fly over there, I stay in this hotel and I,
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: you know, walk my bag a quarter mile of the
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: rink in the first morning and I get in there,
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: I drop my bag off and Jim Hughes is bouncing
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: off the walls in this video session he's getting ready
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: for and I'm like, hey, dude, I just can someone
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: unpack my gear? And can somebody get me a coffee?
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: That's like all I want right now. Like I don't
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: care about practice, I don't care about anything. I'm jet lagged.
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: Just could I just have coffee? And I'm going to
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: try to go out there and not pull something today
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: in practice. He's like, this is the biggest game of
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: the year on Thursday.
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: Just you know.
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't even know who we're playing Thursday,
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: and I certainly don't care. And he's like, We're going
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: to play the Belarussian national team, and da da dah
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: dah dah, and so I get through practice. Fortunately, don't
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: hurt myself. The next day I show up and I
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: could like, all right, I can kind of play it
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: the next day, and then the following day was the game,
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: and I can now understand why it's such a big deal.
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: The first team in Belarus that's going to play in
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: the kh I'll get play against their national team, and
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: they really wanted to make sure we won. Well, our
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: team was awful, like we were awful, I mean terrible,
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: terrible hockey team. And so after the first period, I
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: come in and have our captain, Alex is next to
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: me and he speaks English and I score in the
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: first period. So I'm sitting there like, oh yeah, I'm good, Like,
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: no big deal. You know, We're down to one, and
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: all of a sudden, this guy comes flying into the
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: locker room freaking out at the top of his lungs.
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: I look at Alex, I'm my cow, tell the guy
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: to get the fuck out of the locker om right now.
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: I was like, no, no, no, look at the floor,
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: look at the floor. Right after this guy comes a
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: guy with a German shepherd. The next guy with the
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: machine gun, and I'm like, oh, I get this now,
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: like I need to feel shamed, and so he's losing
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: his mind on us. And he was the vice president
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: of the country effectively, and you know, coming into yell
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: at us after the first period when we were down
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: by a goal, and that kind of set the tone
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: for the way it was going to be all year long.
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: Our team was terrible. You know, we'd get yelled at
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: all the time. You know, practice would start when the
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: zamboni doors closed and they would end when they all
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: and they would practice the wheels off you every minute
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: that they had available. And like that league when I mean,
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: I don't know for you guys, but like I've flown
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: into more airports with dirt floors than I am proud
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: to say across Russia. I've seen more feral dogs on
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: runways than most Americans, that is for sure. When this all,
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: when the season ended, I took a picture of our
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: plane and it had a glass tip, yes, a glass
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: tip to the front of the plane. And a friend
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: of mine works for this company called Elliot Aviation, so
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: I sent him a picture. I did not want to
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: send it to him before the years over because I
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: didn't want to know how bad this plane was well,
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: I send it to him. He brings it down to
• 53:47
  Speaker 7: the mechanics and they're rolling laughing, like you flew that
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: plane across Russia. It was an old plane where like
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: that's where the gunner would be at the front of
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: this freaking plane. Can't make it up.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: And that was the way that the plane leaked at
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: me in a B fifty two bomber, Like.
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: Every every we'd take up, drip drip, drip, until it
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: would gets so cold it would freeze. I mean it was.
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: I hope it's better, but it would. The travel was brutal,
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: it was. It was a unique experience, that's for sure.
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: And I could go on and on, but it was
• 54:28
  Speaker 7: a down of a new era of like whoa, I
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: got to make it through this whole year like this.
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: It's it's tough. I'm not going back to the Russia
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: the rest of my life. I can promise you that.
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: And when people ask me, like, oh, what you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: I'm thinking about going on one of those Viking cruises
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: to see Russia, I'm like, here's what you do. This
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: is simple. Google Russia and book a trip to Hawaii.
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: You'll thank me later.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: That is the perfect mic front.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Ben Climber, a terrific NHL player, obviously stories for days,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: and a great success now as a financial planner.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Ben, this was awesome, man, Thank you so much.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: This was right.
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks guys, appreciate it.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Thanks again to Ben Klimber. He was fantastic.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Again, if you ever in Minnesota, maybe go look at
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Ben Claimber if he wants some financial advice. He's definitely
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: a bright guy, knows this stuff and obviously has stories
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: for days.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: And Ny you said you knew him.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: You played against when you're seventeen, so you go way
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: back with Ben Klimber, right, Yeah, I.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Was still in junior and I that's when I hopped
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: on board with Octagon and Brian Latton and I was
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: going to Minnesota and skating with a lot of those guys.
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: Ben Climber, Brett heddeck In, those are the names that
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: really jump out. And that's when Benny was kind of
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: uh yeah, that was when he was, you know, in
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: the NHL in Tampa and winning a Cup. So it
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: was nice to have him on. He's great, dude.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I always think Jada, when someone says they're a financial planner,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: either they're always good with money or terrible with money
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: and trying to make amends.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure which one it was a benk Clamber.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I think he probably was always good with money.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Lost money, Yeah, he lost a lot of money, and
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: he realized, Hey, you know what, I don't want that
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: to happen to other people what happened to me?
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: And I'm gonna be ballers.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, click the rock baller like that.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: That's what I think is bed Claver's ballers, all right,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: sine file in sixty I pulled a bait and switch
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: on towel. I told my I wanted to talk a
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Blue Heron, which is a critical acclaimed film which is wonderful.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: It's out of Vancouver and everyone should watch. It's really good.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: But for our podcast, people are interested in these independent
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Canadian films. But go watch Blue Heron if you're into that.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: What I knew he'd be into and it would titillate
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: tal and offend JD. It's a new film called I
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Want Your Sex. It stars Olivia Wilde and the son
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: of the great Philips Himura Hoffin Cooper Hoffman.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: And what's happening to this movie? It's all S and M.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: She plays the boss, he plays the underling. That comes
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: in one of the first scenes. She says to listen,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: do you have a girlfriend?
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: He's like yeah, he's okay, so you won't want if
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: we have sex together. He's like what.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, I'm your boss. You're gonna do what
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I tell you to do. And he is willfully going
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: into this trap. It's much like the film Secretary member
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: James Spader, Maggie Gillenhall.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the role is a little reversed here.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: She's the one in charge. And when my buddy Tyler
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: saw it loved. I say just one quick question, how
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: racy is it? Because racing?
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: How much nudity? He's like nudity, I go top bottom,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: He's like Olivia Wild topless. In the first minute.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I said, that's a good Scotger pork because no onally
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: get there a little late. Maybe you want to get
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: some milk duds, a couple of extra.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Trailers, gonna better on my ass, and a seat there
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: right out the gate. We're gonna have some racy outfits
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: there from a littly Wild.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: It's really funny, it's provocative and hopefully they'll get these
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: kids out there, these gen zs and millennials off their
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: phones and in there watching TV because you know, much
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: like back in the day, and they's watching wild things.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I'm watching basic things. Think this is what these kids
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: they should be doing. So Cooper hop and by the way,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: again the son of the great Philips Humer Hoffen. He
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: was in the Criterion closet. Talley picked up the great
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: film Happiness Todd sol Ons and he goes. I picked
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: it up because not many people can say they can
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: watch me in which their dad was masturbating, so clearly
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: has a good sense of humor like his dad.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: How you've heard of this movie? It's a big hit
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: at sun Decks Sunday.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: It's Gregor Rocky, the director did Mysterious Skin, great film
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: back in the day.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: So check out. I want your sex. Good counter programming
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: for the Odyssey.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: I heard good thing.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: I'm just looking at that. I'm looking at the videos
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: on Twitter right now.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Good tell you've heard of the movie.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: Highlights a lot about a movie, and I've been waiting
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: for Cooper Hoffman's next next starring role for a while,
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: so I might check it out. And I was just
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: gonna add I saw Tony the Bourdaine Yes Story. I
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: just directed by Matt Johnson really enjoyed.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: It to watch that, did you like it?
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. I mean, it's fan fiction,
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: it's not you know, it's not the real deal. But
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: I watched the Chances are great. Antonio banderas very fine performance.
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: And yeah, Matt Johnson, who I've since discovered, he's the
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: director Canadian.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: He's one of the two members of this Nirvana, the Nirvana.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: The band.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: People talk about that movie a lot too.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: You're very funny.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: I did a deep dive.
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: I watched it was the movie was recommended to me,
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: and then I started watching the show.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: It's all on Hulu. It's it's hilarious. I love these guys.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: The movie was funny as well. I I haven't seen
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: the movie yet. I've heard of the show, but the
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: movie is funny. Tell yeah, yeah, the movie is great.
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: They rip off every show and every movie you've ever
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: heard of, but they do it in a very satirical,
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: funny way.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: I watched Big Chicken, a fast food conspiracy documentary with
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: with my mom and I tell you what, never again,
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: don't watch it.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I'm not telling you, but.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: To write down. But it's not a good recommendation avoid,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: but you know it's.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: It's it's great, but it is eye opening. This guy
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: eats chicken. He eats fried chicken three meals a day
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: from a month. It's kind of like organize me super
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: But he goes really deep on the chicken and like
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: and goes to the you know, he goes Tyson Foods
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: and he goes tries to go the factories and the
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: plants and go inside. I mean, it is absolutely disgusting
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: what they feed us, So you would.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Never want to eat chicken again. I love chicken. I
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: eat chicken, fried chicken.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: Guys, Yeah, I don't.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: I stopped eating I kind of stopped eating chicken probably
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: three years ago, really, and I have like I've had,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: you know, since that time. You know, I I cut
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: it out completely for probably two years. In the past year,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: I probably had chicken on one hand, but I might
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: go back to no chicken after this.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: You feel better without the chicken.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes. I'm just straight steak, steak, and fish.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: But this chicken, what they feed us, these poor goddamn
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: chickens that are just don't even stand up.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: And with eggs anyway, Yeah, I love eggs.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: An eggs guy.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: I'm an eggs guy.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: Okay, supersized me was kind of debunked by the way.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know for you.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: First, you want to get into that a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: gooh well.
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  Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, like, it's about Morgan Spurlock
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  Speaker 6: eating nothing but McDonald's for a month and how it
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  Speaker 6: turned his body into a trash bin. But then it
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  Speaker 6: turned out later he was a raging alcoholic the entire time,
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  Speaker 6: So kind of well kind of explained not to you know,
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  Speaker 6: rip Morgan Spurlock.
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  Speaker 4: But ye, well I kind of made it.
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  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, stoner in one of the two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it affected the Uh it shows you and
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  Speaker 3: you add both of them. It's a recipe for ucking death.
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  Speaker 3: Give yourself a chance there, Bubba.
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  Speaker 1: Big Mack and a vog on the rocks. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: after it, all right. People love a good list here.
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  Speaker 1: I can't say this enough. Not a lot of hockey talks,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're going here at NHL dot com. But
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  Speaker 1: Jad knows people get fired up about this. So top
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  Speaker 1: ten listed defenseman mccarr quinn, Hughes Wrensky. I think most
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  Speaker 1: would agree with the top three Doleen Hasting at five
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  Speaker 1: was the liye opening to me, laying Hudson at six,
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  Speaker 1: then Schaeffer at seven, Jake Sanderson eight, Most Satur at nine,
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  Speaker 1: and what's Evan Bouchard gotta gotta do here? It could
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  Speaker 1: give me a top five. No, he barely cracks the
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  Speaker 1: top ten. What do you think of the list?
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  Speaker 7: JD.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Bouchard a little low personally, and Hasting at
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  Speaker 1: five was a little surprising to me.
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  Speaker 3: I had so, I had mccar, Hughes, Wrensky, Dollen all
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  Speaker 3: the same. Yep that I had Haskin at five, you did?
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  Speaker 3: I had Schaeffer at six, so one, I had Lam.
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  Speaker 3: I had Lacombe at seven.
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  Speaker 4: Ye I like that.
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  Speaker 3: I took a swing had I had Faber at eight.
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  Speaker 3: I had Most Cider at nine, which is where they
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  Speaker 3: had Moca. And then number ten I had Jake Sanderson.
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  Speaker 2: She did not have Busch on your top.
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  Speaker 3: I had Bousche at eleven. I had Lane Hudson at twelve.
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  Speaker 3: I went Charlie McAvoy at thirteen. I went Jacob Slavin
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  Speaker 3: at fourteen, Josh Morrissey fifteen. I went Mikhail Sergachev at sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: As a little bit of a flyer, people in Utah.
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  Speaker 3: He fucking does everything. I had Yosi seventeen. Then I
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  Speaker 3: had Adam Fox at eighteen, which they had him at thirteen.
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  Speaker 3: I think, so I went five spots down. Now that
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  Speaker 3: one's a point of contention because a lot of people,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at the numbers analytically, Fox should be
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  Speaker 3: a top ten, but I take into account I go
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  Speaker 3: based off of last year into this year. He was
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  Speaker 3: injured a lot of the year, so I have him down.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even have Headman on the left because Headman
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  Speaker 3: did not play enough and I know he's had some issues.
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  Speaker 3: I can't see him getting back to top twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: And actually my nineteen twenty is like my nineteen is
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  Speaker 3: Tabes in my twenty was a mix of I think twenty.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you could have put Gaverickov, you could put Harley,
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  Speaker 3: you could put Samuelson, you could put Miller.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, but I was close. I just had la
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  Speaker 4: Combe and Faber up high.
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  Speaker 2: The big difference is you had Hudson at twelve. They
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  Speaker 2: had him at six.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I just think Hudson physically in the playoffs, you could
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  Speaker 3: see he got tired. I love Hudson. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: he's a gamer. He's incredible. I just think lacombe in
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  Speaker 3: Faber do everything. I know Hudson does too, but Lacomb
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  Speaker 3: is like he is designated to play against the top
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  Speaker 3: line Layne Hudson is not. Faber does everything, and Faber
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  Speaker 3: is absolutely incredible. It was incredible without Hughes and is
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  Speaker 3: even better with Quinn Hughes. So I had favor well,
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  Speaker 3: and then Sanderson, I'm very bullish. I think he wins
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  Speaker 3: the Norris in the next five years.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be awesome.
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  Speaker 5: Nate your thoughts on the list, Yeah, I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: won't go into too much depth, like GD said, because
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  Speaker 5: he's a former defenseman, but I agree. I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: think Jackson McComb for sure has to be in the
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  Speaker 5: top ten. That was the one that was glaring, that
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  Speaker 5: was missing for me as soon as I saw that.
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  Speaker 5: And then I take Bouchard out of the top ten
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  Speaker 5: just because I just don't think that. And I still
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  Speaker 5: have Lane Hudson in the top ten as well. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: I like it with board Out, I just get so
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  Speaker 5: much just because yeah, he does. But I just think
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  Speaker 5: with Lane Hudson, how much both him and Jackson McComb
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  Speaker 5: kind of carry the mail for both those teams, it's
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  Speaker 5: like they have to be in the top ten. So
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  Speaker 5: those are the twos that really really stand out to me.
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  Speaker 5: Is Jackson, lecolemb and Bouchard not being in the top ten.
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  Speaker 4: I can make a case for Lane to be in
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  Speaker 4: the top ten. Easy. Yeah, Well, the.
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  Speaker 1: List start of the week before the dot COM's top
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  Speaker 1: twenty wingers. We'll just go top ten for you, Nate
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  Speaker 1: Couch your off Pasta Caprisov, Mitch Marner, Ranson and Boldie Robertson,
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  Speaker 1: Matthew Kachuck, Cole Cawfield and Willie Nielander at number ten
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not too far off. The one that really jumps
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  Speaker 5: out at me, I think, and this will be you know,
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  Speaker 5: guys will not sure is Sam reyin Hart. That's one
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  Speaker 5: for me as a winger. I think I would even
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  Speaker 5: take you know, I know he scored over fifty goals Caffield,
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  Speaker 5: but so did Sam Ryan Hart a couple of seasons ago.
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  Speaker 5: And I might even take Caffield off or Kneelander just
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  Speaker 5: because of what Sam Ryan Hart does as a player,
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  Speaker 5: Like he plays in every single situation, penalty, kill, power,
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  Speaker 5: play everything, like he's kind of an all around player,
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  Speaker 5: and I put him as one of the smartest you know,
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  Speaker 5: hockey IQ wingers in the league. I would put him
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  Speaker 5: in the top ten. That's the one for me. I
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  Speaker 5: think i'd probably put him in. I'd probably take caugh
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  Speaker 5: Field out just because I know he scored fifty goals,
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  Speaker 5: but you know, we saw in the playoffs that he's
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  Speaker 5: still at needs to add another dimension to his game.
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  Speaker 5: I think where you know, you look at a guy
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  Speaker 5: like Sam Ryan Hart and you know he's he hits
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  Speaker 5: every box when it comes to playing playing hockey in
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  Speaker 5: all different areas. So that's the one that really really
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  Speaker 5: jumps out to me. All the other guys though, I
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: mean you look at Cooch Pasta, caprizof marn I mean,
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  Speaker 5: all those guys are wingers that create time and space
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  Speaker 5: for their line mates, where wingers usually are not looked
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  Speaker 5: at as that, and those guys, like I said, they
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  Speaker 5: carry the mail when it comes to uh being wingers
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  Speaker 5: in the league for perspective.
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  Speaker 1: By what you guys both like Lacombe, he was seventeenth
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  Speaker 1: NHL's list. It was n't, by the way, Ryanhart fourteenth.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Jitni, Yeah, I'd actually have Marner and rant
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  Speaker 3: and and ahead of Caprizov. I'd have capriceoff and boldly
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  Speaker 3: next to each other. I think I'm interested to see
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  Speaker 3: what Caprisof does without Zukurello this year and if he
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  Speaker 3: can shoulder that load. But I would I love Capriceof.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's the top five and I think he's
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  Speaker 3: absolutely incredible. But Marner, I think does not get enough
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  Speaker 3: credit for what he does defensively, and that's why I
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  Speaker 3: have him up higher as the three car because he
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  Speaker 3: produces plays the top on the power play in Vegas
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  Speaker 3: for a lot of those for that Vegas power Play,
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  Speaker 3: and then he's also the first guy with the boards
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  Speaker 3: for the penalty kill. So I think Marner is up there.
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  Speaker 3: And then yeah, I agree, I think Cawfield that have
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  Speaker 3: lower on the list that I have probably in you know,
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  Speaker 3: top fifteen, but I wouldn't have him in my top ten.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Closing thoughts are happy birthday to Sidney Cross because he
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  Speaker 1: turned thirty nine. Amazing to think sid still looks youthful
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  Speaker 1: as ever, still wants to keep going and who knows
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  Speaker 1: what he can have as far as the future is concerned.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm with h J D.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Penguins last year were success story. This
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  Speaker 1: year they missed the playoffs, and I'm curious what's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen with Sid. I feel like he's the kind
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  Speaker 1: guy that can play till forty forty one forty two.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think the Penguins have a strong season.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think they might miss or just squeak in
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  Speaker 3: in the final spot. I don't like what they did.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know if Philly makes it back. I think Jersey,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: if they can stay healthy, does it. And then I
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  Speaker 3: I'm bullish on Columbus. I think I want to see
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: if Columbus can pull up their socks and not be
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: little bitches after the end last year and make it
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: back to the playoffs. But I think I'm a little
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: nervous on Pittsburgh. Yeah, it's the goat.
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  Speaker 5: He is the goat. He's still going to be a
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  Speaker 5: point per game guy. We're still going to get him
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: doing that every season. But I saw your you know,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: and I'm with you, Jap like you you your Metro
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  Speaker 5: division standings like before the season and is like this
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: is the biggest wild card division. I think because yes,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: the other one, yeah, like the other one is that
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: you talked about. I mean Pittsburgh, I don't know if
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: they're going to get either, but like the Islanders, like,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: what are they going to do this year? They're going
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: to finish, you know, I help you. Yeah, in the
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: mix with they're going to be eight like you had him,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: you know, so I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Know, Yeah I had him.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: I have Islanders eighth right now, and I have New
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: York Rangers seven, and I'm but it depends because Paul Mary,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: you know, blew his knee out. They had a lot
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: of injuries down the stretch. Can do get a lot
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  Speaker 3: out of them, Shae for another year and they got
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: a great goaltender. So I mean easily Islanders could be third.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: It's I think three to eight in the Metro is
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: a fucking point. It's gonna be separated by like four
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: or five points.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you have Washed, Carolina, Columbus one, two, three.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Columbus is my flyer, but I have I think
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Washed and Carolina are they're they're gonna be twenty points
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: ahead of all those teams.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we're building up to spring of course training camp.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: We're coming up in September. Episto Dumber ninety four, so
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: six more away from the vaunted one hundred mark. And
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: as we close, I gotta hope everyone joys this summer.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: We'll see it back in a couple of weeks here
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: in ny Stellan script. It's a late August, will crank
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: out one more and then by September we'll be training
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: camps and again Mark tann san Luis meeting Jerry Seinfeld.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: That's one of the highlights of this summer.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: And apparently Seinfeld said to him, Howie Morenz has a
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: statue and Ken Dryden doesn't.
• 1:09:52
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• 1:09:54
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