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- 0:01Speaker 1: We gotta do.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Mike Sech.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Big Glow, what do you do? How are you? Man?
- 0:17Speaker 2: I'm great? How are you?
- 0:18Speaker 3: I'm blessed, black and Holly famous. You know, before I
- 0:21Speaker 3: do these conversations, I like to send an attention. So
- 0:23Speaker 3: my intention for this conversation is for people to listen
- 0:26Speaker 3: to this interview and then go listen to your music
- 0:28Speaker 3: with a different ear so they can recognize the anointing
- 0:32Speaker 3: that God has on Gloria Hallelujah Ward's life.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the intention. Now.
- 0:38Speaker 3: I know h negative tweets we having an impact on you,
- 0:41Speaker 3: but I'm gonna read you a positive tweet somebody said
- 0:43Speaker 3: about you.
- 0:44Speaker 1: I had a young lady named Julia Brown.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Sugar Baker posted a video working out the whole on
- 0:49Speaker 3: and she said, I need Glorilla to write a devotional
- 0:51Speaker 3: book of daily affirmations. She says Glow makes her feel
- 0:55Speaker 3: like she's a young person and reminds her that I
- 0:57Speaker 3: can do all things through Christ.
- 0:59Speaker 1: That is how do you receive that when you hear it?
- 1:02Speaker 2: I love seeing stuff like this like oh wow, I
- 1:05Speaker 2: really like I speak of certain message to you to
- 1:09Speaker 2: make you feel like this like it make me feel
- 1:11Speaker 2: great and.
- 1:11Speaker 3: I don't think you realize how much Gloriala music I
- 1:14Speaker 3: listened to. And one thing I've grown to understand about
- 1:17Speaker 3: you is there is a difference between Gloriala the rapper
- 1:20Speaker 3: and Gloria Hallelujah Woods. But Gloria Hallelujah be popping up too,
- 1:24Speaker 3: and she be rapping as well. So what's the difference
- 1:26Speaker 3: between Gloriala and Gloria.
- 1:32Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say it's a hurge difference. It ain't
- 1:34Speaker 2: a hurge difference. But I'm gonna say, like, I'm just
- 1:37Speaker 2: one hundred percent aggressive. It like straight talking shit when
- 1:40Speaker 2: I rap. You know what I'm saying, it's straight like,
- 1:42Speaker 2: but in real life, I'm like, ask you a nice.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Put it full south.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Yeah. So the hostelity, you know, I'm just I'm cooler,
- 1:51Speaker 2: like I ain't as mean like people think, like how
- 1:53Speaker 2: I rap? I'm agressed with this how I am? But
- 1:55Speaker 2: I'm actually nice.
- 1:56Speaker 3: A lot of artists, man, you know, they put out
- 1:58Speaker 3: projects before their debut album, and they put out so
- 2:01Speaker 3: much music and then when the when the debut album
- 2:04Speaker 3: comes out, there's really no difference. With you, I can
- 2:07Speaker 3: hear the elevation of the art, so what was your
- 2:09Speaker 3: approach to me Glorious your debut album Special.
- 2:14Speaker 2: It was just like, so I had dropped my EP,
- 2:17Speaker 2: of course, and then it was like last year I
- 2:19Speaker 2: was working on my album and it's like I was
- 2:22Speaker 2: just overthinking it a lot, like because I know I
- 2:24Speaker 2: wanted it to be big, this could be my first album,
- 2:27Speaker 2: and I kind of got out track a little bit.
- 2:28Speaker 2: And then that's when I made my mixtape because I'm like, Okay,
- 2:31Speaker 2: that put me back on track to where I needed
- 2:33Speaker 2: to be.
- 2:33Speaker 1: That's the everything. Everything.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so when I dropped everything, everything, he just
- 2:37Speaker 2: gave me, like he gave me my confidence back, sleek glass,
- 2:41Speaker 2: my confidence a little bit. And then I was just like, Okay,
- 2:44Speaker 2: when I make this album, I got to touch different subjects.
- 2:47Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I don't just want
- 2:48Speaker 2: it to be a body of work talking about the
- 2:51Speaker 2: same shit, Like I want to talk about different things
- 2:53Speaker 2: in the happen.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Did you lose your confidence because of what other people
- 2:55Speaker 3: were saying and just because you were putting much fresh
- 2:57Speaker 3: on yourself both of them?
- 2:59Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, like I was trying to I was overthinking
- 3:02Speaker 2: too hard when trying to go too big and then
- 3:05Speaker 2: the people came to and I kind of just lost
- 3:07Speaker 2: a little bit of my confidence.
- 3:09Speaker 3: In the intro, you say, be humble, that kacky shit
- 3:12Speaker 3: take you down. Now, did you have a moment when
- 3:15Speaker 3: you first started popping or you was feeling yourself and
- 3:17Speaker 3: it was impacting your career anyway?
- 3:22Speaker 2: I ain't never gee cocky like I really wanted talking
- 3:24Speaker 2: about myself right there, you know, because I feel it
- 3:27Speaker 2: was stay home. I ain't never got to a point
- 3:28Speaker 2: where I was just kaky, like got my nose through
- 3:31Speaker 2: and stuff like kind of got cocked tour like, yeah,
- 3:33Speaker 2: I know on me, but like not the other type
- 3:35Speaker 2: of KACKI.
- 3:36Speaker 1: You're talking to other people.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Now in the Last Dance, right, Michael Jordan
- 3:41Speaker 3: takes a lot of things personal and it motivates HM.
- 3:44Speaker 1: You've seen the last nas the Michael Jordan like, man,
- 3:46Speaker 1: oh you need to watch it. He takes he takes
- 3:48Speaker 1: everything personal.
- 3:50Speaker 3: And you posted how you booked Mark the tweet of
- 3:52Speaker 3: someone saying you fell off so fast and so bad
- 3:55Speaker 3: and they.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Put a battery in your back.
- 3:57Speaker 3: What did you feel in that moment and how did
- 3:59Speaker 3: you use that from that tweet to your advantage?
- 4:03Speaker 2: Because for a minute. I ain't think it could happen
- 4:05Speaker 2: because I know my ability, my rapping ability, and so
- 4:08Speaker 2: when I started seeing a lot of people say that
- 4:10Speaker 2: and seeing shit like that, and I'm like, oh, okay,
- 4:11Speaker 2: so y'all playing with me, I'm gonna show you like
- 4:14Speaker 2: I'm the like person. I like to prove people wrong
- 4:16Speaker 2: and I like to show people like, this is what
- 4:18Speaker 2: you think. I'm gonna show you this.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Why do you think they felt like that so fast though?
- 4:22Speaker 3: Because I saw one person tweet from like made to
- 4:25Speaker 3: like it was only like no Vember, it was on
- 4:27Speaker 3: like five or six, once you had been up.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Why they wanted you to fall so bad? I don't know.
- 4:30Speaker 2: I think they speak kind of do that to almost everybody,
- 4:33Speaker 2: especially female artists. I don't know why, but they wanted
- 4:36Speaker 2: me to fall off so bad. I don't know. Why.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Is it true that you are home school until the
- 4:40Speaker 1: fifth grade? Why?
- 4:43Speaker 2: Because my mama wanted us to She ain't want us
- 4:45Speaker 2: to be of the world. This few to say, she
- 4:48Speaker 2: wanted to keep us like. My mama was like she
- 4:50Speaker 2: a super Christian and so yeah, she ain't want us
- 4:53Speaker 2: to be in the world. I guess a super Christian
- 4:58Speaker 2: Christian like my mama, Like, like my mom will go
- 5:01Speaker 2: to churches as many times the church open, my mama there,
- 5:04Speaker 2: she could be there seven days a week. She's gonna
- 5:06Speaker 2: be there.
- 5:06Speaker 3: And you got with nine siblings, right, all of them
- 5:09Speaker 3: have some type of religious reference in there because you
- 5:12Speaker 3: had a Louis, because they're like an a man and
- 5:15Speaker 3: the other things.
- 5:16Speaker 2: No, like she named a lot of those names out
- 5:18Speaker 2: of the bath. But like my brother named Daniel, my
- 5:21Speaker 2: little sister night miracle, my youngest brother named Joshua, and
- 5:26Speaker 2: she say, uh, that's the Hebrew name for Jesus, Jesus.
- 5:30Speaker 2: And she was like this our lad child, and she
- 5:32Speaker 2: was like it is finished like this with Jesus sit
- 5:35Speaker 2: on the cross. So yeah, she did do a lot
- 5:37Speaker 2: about biling career forces with us.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Did that put a lot of pressure on you when
- 5:40Speaker 3: you were young to like always try to be perfect?
- 5:43Speaker 2: M M. Now I knew I want no bad was perfect.
- 5:47Speaker 1: You knew that early, you know.
- 5:48Speaker 3: Also in the intro you also say police pulled me over,
- 5:51Speaker 3: caught me sleeping, but I'm sober now, And then later
- 5:54Speaker 3: on you say, yeah, you make mistakes, but don't nothing
- 5:56Speaker 3: be the failure but to try and we all saw
- 5:58Speaker 3: the video of you getting pulled over for the for
- 6:00Speaker 3: the d uy What did that that moment teach you?
- 6:05Speaker 2: What I said in the song?
- 6:06Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, did you know that in that moment?
- 6:10Speaker 3: Know what in the moment, like then you knew in
- 6:12Speaker 3: that moment like Okay, I'm about this was a mistake,
- 6:14Speaker 3: but I'm gonna learn from it.
- 6:15Speaker 2: I mean, I really can't speak too much on there
- 6:17Speaker 2: right now.
- 6:17Speaker 3: Oh all right, okay, you said at the end of
- 6:20Speaker 3: the intro you love criticism, Yeah, and people always make
- 6:23Speaker 3: you feel crazy.
- 6:25Speaker 1: So how have you learned to deal with critics and
- 6:27Speaker 1: hate us to just.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Prove them wrong? Give you time because they're gonna always
- 6:30Speaker 2: come back around and hop back on the train every time.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Like a lot of time when the hate come, it
- 6:35Speaker 2: be bandwagon hate, Like they only hate you because the
- 6:37Speaker 2: next person I.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Don't even know if they really be actually listening to
- 6:40Speaker 3: the music for real. Are they just get on social
- 6:43Speaker 3: media and see what a few other people saying exactly,
- 6:46Speaker 3: and then they like, you know.
- 6:47Speaker 1: What, let me let me let me get get involved
- 6:48Speaker 1: with the with the mob real quick. Yeah.
- 6:51Speaker 3: I love how one hold on you say you popping
- 6:53Speaker 3: it so hard because you ain't used to ship.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Do you ever think you will get to a point
- 6:58Speaker 1: where you get you to this life?
- 7:03Speaker 2: I still ain't got used to it is now, Like
- 7:05Speaker 2: I still certain shit happened. I'd be like, Wow, this
- 7:07Speaker 2: is really me, this is really my life. And so
- 7:09Speaker 2: that's why I like, I just be like stunning the
- 7:12Speaker 2: way I do, because back then I ain't never peach
- 7:14Speaker 2: it is doing on. Like I knew I had a dream.
- 7:16Speaker 2: I knew it was a possibility, but I didn't know
- 7:18Speaker 2: it was gonna happen happen for real? Really mm hmm.
- 7:21Speaker 3: You seem like the type of person like that that
- 7:23Speaker 3: can manifest things.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Do Yeah, what you want your life to be?
- 7:27Speaker 2: What are you can manifest? And when it really happen,
- 7:29Speaker 2: you like, oh shit, it really happened. Like I'm shocked,
- 7:32Speaker 2: Really are you?
- 7:33Speaker 1: Are you talking about the level that you're at right now? Yeah?
- 7:36Speaker 3: I mean to be honest, you're doing you're doing some
- 7:37Speaker 3: white people shit too. You on these late night shows
- 7:39Speaker 3: and you're on these wards shows. You know, Yeah, is
- 7:42Speaker 3: that what it is?
- 7:43Speaker 2: It's just big all around, Like I never imagine this
- 7:46Speaker 2: is going on. Yeah, Like I knew I was gonna
- 7:49Speaker 2: make it, but I ain't know this big and the Fast.
- 7:51Speaker 3: You got a record with a lot of called procedure.
- 7:55Speaker 3: Are men really trying to trap you and get you pregnant?
- 7:58Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 7:59Speaker 1: Really?
- 7:59Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 8:03Speaker 1: How do you handle that.
- 8:06Speaker 2: One?
- 8:10Speaker 1: That's crazy?
- 8:12Speaker 3: So you really in the record you said that you
- 8:14Speaker 3: might get your tub side.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Yeah you don't really mean that.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I do want to have kids, but
- 8:19Speaker 2: not my own kids, Like I want to do the surroguit. Yeah,
- 8:22Speaker 2: I want somebody else to have my baby. I want
- 8:23Speaker 2: them to have my DNA, but I don't want to have.
- 8:25Speaker 1: It, Like that's mot why just because your career just.
- 8:28Speaker 2: You just I just don't want to actually have a baby.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what did you see somebody have a bad experience?
- 8:34Speaker 1: That means you feel like I don't want to.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Like all my friends got kids and they just like
- 8:38Speaker 2: they can't do it. They restricted a lot. I mean
- 8:41Speaker 2: they priggy and I'm like, no, I don't want to
- 8:43Speaker 2: go through that.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Or it's just for not much.
- 8:45Speaker 2: This is too long.
- 8:47Speaker 3: You said a month before you blew up, you were
- 8:49Speaker 3: still swiping cards, wasn't that you? Yeah, you don't want
- 8:54Speaker 3: to expound nothing. What What did a lot of mean
- 9:00Speaker 3: on the record when she said talking about taking spots. Kresha, Please,
- 9:04Speaker 3: they call me big Mama bender, bitch over my knees.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Y'all gonna call it beef. What was that line? I
- 9:11Speaker 1: guess you gotta. I couldn't understand if she was taking shots.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I was confused.
- 9:15Speaker 2: No, I don't think she's taking taking shots. But we Yeah,
- 9:19Speaker 2: I can't explain what she said.
- 9:21Speaker 1: You don't ask people what they say it on your records.
- 9:23Speaker 2: It sounds good like I think, well, I know what
- 9:25Speaker 2: I interpreted is, but I ain't gonna like I don't
- 9:28Speaker 2: know exactly.
- 9:28Speaker 1: How did you interpret it? Is your album? Yeah, so
- 9:31Speaker 1: how did you interpret it?
- 9:32Speaker 2: Shot?
- 9:33Speaker 1: Okay? You knew what you know what the bar was about. Yeah,
- 9:37Speaker 1: but you want her to explain it? Okay.
- 9:40Speaker 3: Now we got to talk about rain now with Kirk Franklin,
- 9:45Speaker 3: Shandon Ler Moore and Kiera Shid. Just another example of
- 9:48Speaker 3: the anointing on law Yeah, Hall lujahs life. How did
- 9:51Speaker 3: that record come together and why those particular gospel artists?
- 9:54Speaker 2: Okay, so for me and I was like, I want
- 9:57Speaker 2: to do a gospel song. Never mind, he parted the
- 10:01Speaker 2: record too, he had he did the chorus, he sent
- 10:04Speaker 2: to beat there, he sent the chorus, and so I
- 10:06Speaker 2: instantly wrote the verse soon as he sent the song though,
- 10:10Speaker 2: and then I'm like, cause he had a Kirk Franklin
- 10:12Speaker 2: sample on there first, and so I'm like, you know,
- 10:14Speaker 2: I would really I would really love Kirk Franklin actually
- 10:17Speaker 2: got on the song, and then he set up everything
- 10:20Speaker 2: else and everything just came together.
- 10:21Speaker 1: Wow.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Did you have to talk to Kirk and all of
- 10:24Speaker 3: them and tell him what the record was about?
- 10:25Speaker 1: At first?
- 10:26Speaker 2: Uh, none of my people had said this song? Yeah,
- 10:29Speaker 2: and then they he did it so quick and so fast.
- 10:31Speaker 2: I was so happy.
- 10:32Speaker 1: What made you want to do a full on gospel record?
- 10:35Speaker 1: And feel like?
- 10:36Speaker 2: Because I always wanted to do one, and then my
- 10:38Speaker 2: mama always be asking me, we ain't gonna do a
- 10:40Speaker 2: gospel Oh real good, I'm like, I'm gonna do one
- 10:42Speaker 2: for show. I always wanted to do one, though, and
- 10:44Speaker 2: that was like the perfect one. Like that song I
- 10:46Speaker 2: actually almost Uh it's probably about a year and a
- 10:50Speaker 2: half old.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, was it was? It was it difficult to
- 10:54Speaker 1: write just emotion.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Like everything that I said on there. I actually felt
- 10:59Speaker 2: he was so he is the right, like like I
- 11:01Speaker 2: said when he sent it to me out he wrote
- 11:03Speaker 2: it Quicke as f.
- 11:04Speaker 1: And the church was was a major part of your upbringing.
- 11:07Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you said, your your mother was super
- 11:10Speaker 3: Christian and she didn't want you to be of the world.
- 11:13Speaker 3: So when you was creating this record, did you say, Man,
- 11:15Speaker 3: I don't know if I if I want to mix this,
- 11:17Speaker 3: mix this record with the other stuff I'm doing.
- 11:19Speaker 2: Nah, because I know like it's bald. When I just
- 11:24Speaker 2: knew I wanted a God's breaking on my album and
- 11:27Speaker 2: that really?
- 11:27Speaker 1: Uh?
- 11:28Speaker 2: Did hear me come up with the name of the
- 11:29Speaker 2: album too?
- 11:31Speaker 1: No, glorious?
- 11:32Speaker 3: So the other two artists of Shan Lamore and Kiera Shid,
- 11:34Speaker 3: you knew you wanted them on as well.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Well.
- 11:36Speaker 2: I didn't like Kirk Franklin brought it together, but when
- 11:39Speaker 2: he got those two to be on there, I was
- 11:40Speaker 2: happy to come like, Okay, they some good artists.
- 11:43Speaker 1: What did your mama say?
- 11:44Speaker 2: My mama she heard, she ain't hear the finished product
- 11:47Speaker 2: yet I'm gonna let her hear it on the album.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Did you tell him at least yep?
- 11:50Speaker 2: She happy that wow.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Now, Also on Rain Down, you say you tell the
- 11:55Speaker 3: Lord to watch over everyone you love and care for.
- 11:58Speaker 3: But you said even though he hate me, Lord, watch
- 12:00Speaker 3: over my baby father. Then I ain't that right, I
- 12:04Speaker 3: ain't know you have no kids.
- 12:05Speaker 2: I ain't got no kid.
- 12:06Speaker 1: I want to tell.
- 12:09Speaker 2: I was speaking for the people that do get them
- 12:12Speaker 2: out like rapping almost like in their.
- 12:15Speaker 3: Person is you know that's gonna confuse people. Yeah, I know,
- 12:19Speaker 3: because I let somebody else head and they thought the
- 12:21Speaker 3: same things.
- 12:21Speaker 1: I't. They stopped like, I ain't know she got no man.
- 12:25Speaker 2: A lot of people do that. But yeah, it's just
- 12:27Speaker 2: for the people who do get it, like it was
- 12:29Speaker 2: just a prayer that I wanted to be like for
- 12:31Speaker 2: other people to use.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Okay, right now, you know somebody gonna pop up on
- 12:35Speaker 3: the inn they talking about now she lying I'm a
- 12:36Speaker 3: baby fother.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I ain't got no kid glows prayer.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Yeah, why are you holding up God's prayer line? Praying
- 12:44Speaker 3: to God to help you lead that dick along blow? Like,
- 12:47Speaker 3: come on, God got bigger issues to worry about.
- 12:49Speaker 1: What's what's that?
- 12:50Speaker 2: Okay? So a long time ago when I forgot my
- 12:54Speaker 2: I was in my first real relationship. I really had
- 12:56Speaker 2: to pray God to hear me be like the dude
- 12:58Speaker 2: alone because I didn't know how to. When I was
- 13:00Speaker 2: in my cor froend. I'm like, God, like, wi, you
- 13:02Speaker 2: get me out of this, I'll never do it again.
- 13:04Speaker 2: And I know girls too then went through there too,
- 13:06Speaker 2: so I'm like, I'm gonna make a song.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Look at it? Did it work? Don't lie? Now? After
- 13:11Speaker 1: the first prayer? So you mean to tell me after
- 13:13Speaker 1: the first prayer you left them alone?
- 13:15Speaker 2: Not after the first prayer? You know you gotta eventually
- 13:17Speaker 2: come to pace. He ain't gonna instry. It happened like this.
- 13:20Speaker 1: How many times you mess with them after you prayer?
- 13:22Speaker 1: The first time?
- 13:22Speaker 2: I can't remember.
- 13:23Speaker 1: It hadn't been so long, but it eventually did work. Okay.
- 13:28Speaker 3: Now you answered your own question on that record too,
- 13:31Speaker 3: because you said it's your tasting men that you need
- 13:33Speaker 3: to blame.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 13:35Speaker 3: Do you understand that that you yeah? Okay, when did
- 13:37Speaker 3: you realize that? At what point did you? What was
- 13:40Speaker 3: your tasting minute?
- 13:41Speaker 2: That ain't she once? I don't know why I liked them,
- 13:44Speaker 2: but yeah, I was like it. Maybe it's because it's
- 13:47Speaker 2: some good men out there, but I probably just keep
- 13:49Speaker 2: pigging wrong.
- 13:50Speaker 1: I did you know what the person that is shit?
- 13:52Speaker 3: Because you can't you can't say it's because of their
- 13:54Speaker 3: background You can't say it's because of what they do,
- 13:56Speaker 3: because the lawyer could be ain't ship and the drug
- 13:59Speaker 3: look could be the good guy.
- 14:00Speaker 2: It ain't about their career, just like what the them
- 14:03Speaker 2: as a person. So yeah, I be running to the
- 14:06Speaker 2: ones that ain't good, like good people with good men.
- 14:09Speaker 2: They might be good people, but just not good.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Did you ever think it was anything internal with me? Yeah?
- 14:15Speaker 2: No, I ain't never the problem.
- 14:18Speaker 1: That's what everybody who's the problem says.
- 14:20Speaker 2: You know, real ain't the problem though.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Never You ain't never ever been a problem in the relationship.
- 14:26Speaker 2: No, because anytime I'd be like, so what what what
- 14:28Speaker 2: I need? What I need to do? They never ain't
- 14:29Speaker 2: got nothing. They never got nothing to say. It never
- 14:31Speaker 2: be me.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Because at that point they just ready to leave it
- 14:33Speaker 1: a little. It's second. You probably probably been doing too much.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Now we just don't never be me. I don't believe it.
- 14:41Speaker 3: Now, everything everything you describe yourself as the Memphis choir
- 14:44Speaker 3: girl turned husky voice rapped pheno.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Did you ever sing the trust quae? Really? Yes?
- 14:50Speaker 2: I used to sing real good.
- 14:54Speaker 1: I heard you lost your voice or something like that.
- 14:56Speaker 2: I guess because smoking and I had not sung it
- 14:59Speaker 2: so long. And then I just start smoking in high school.
- 15:01Speaker 2: And then I tried to sing on time. I went
- 15:03Speaker 2: to charge with my moment and I couldn't do it
- 15:04Speaker 2: all more.
- 15:05Speaker 1: And just in that moment, you just chain after what
- 15:08Speaker 1: was wrong?
- 15:09Speaker 2: M m my, my mama had been found out that
- 15:11Speaker 2: I hate started smoking, but I just couldn't sing no more.
- 15:13Speaker 2: She still be telling me I still get it, and
- 15:15Speaker 2: I know I ain't get it, like she just got
- 15:17Speaker 2: hoped one day I'm gonna start bank singing.
- 15:20Speaker 1: I got another question about everything is everything? Because I
- 15:22Speaker 1: love the record.
- 15:23Speaker 2: That's you got you Gotta say anything everything thing.
- 15:27Speaker 1: I love the record. I yeah from that project emotionally.
- 15:31Speaker 3: Was that a tough record to record because the song
- 15:33Speaker 3: is very self reflective and you talk about what's.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Going on in that mirror a lot. Was it very hard?
- 15:39Speaker 1: Was it hard to record?
- 15:40Speaker 2: That was actually easither like the songs that I'm really
- 15:42Speaker 2: speaking on like, it'd be easy to record because it'd
- 15:45Speaker 2: be what's going on in real life.
- 15:46Speaker 3: So so those are the easier records to wreck. So
- 15:49Speaker 3: what about the like the party records and the turn
- 15:51Speaker 3: up records? Are the radio records? Those are the more
- 15:54Speaker 3: difficult ones.
- 15:55Speaker 2: Now they be easy too, like because I just really
- 15:57Speaker 2: just got to turn up everything really because you.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Really be in you.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's that's good advice for people. I think
- 16:04Speaker 3: that's the hardest thing for a lot of people nowadays.
- 16:06Speaker 3: They don't want to be theirself. I think that's when
- 16:09Speaker 3: they get the writer's block. Is that how you felt
- 16:11Speaker 3: early when you were saying that you, yeah, had got stuck.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was just trying to go big, Like
- 16:15Speaker 2: I got to ask them like, oh, well, Latina artists
- 16:17Speaker 2: can I work with? Like I was just instantly trying
- 16:20Speaker 2: to go to big and so yeah.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Why Like what was you looking at?
- 16:23Speaker 3: That means you say, man, I need to I need
- 16:26Speaker 3: I need to just jump out the like why not
- 16:28Speaker 3: just build it up?
- 16:28Speaker 1: Keep doing what you was doing and build it up?
- 16:30Speaker 2: Because I feel like when I first started, I went
- 16:33Speaker 2: from dirt instantly up. So I just felt like I
- 16:36Speaker 2: had to keep going higher and she and so I
- 16:40Speaker 2: just got lost in the mid So is.
- 16:43Speaker 3: It truly it took you thirty minutes to write for
- 16:45Speaker 3: Nikka Free and then you shot the video the same
- 16:48Speaker 3: day the.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Next day, now I want the next day?
- 16:51Speaker 1: How did she go?
- 16:52Speaker 2: Damn? There was a little minute ago. I recorded the
- 16:55Speaker 2: song and then I think, like the next day I
- 16:58Speaker 2: shot the video.
- 16:59Speaker 3: The shit just took off thirty minutes change your life, yep,
- 17:03Speaker 3: So why not just kick that mentality the way?
- 17:06Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, I'm just gonna keep everything organic.
- 17:08Speaker 2: That's what I done, got too. I done got back
- 17:10Speaker 2: to it now, Okay, I had lost it at first.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Then I had to come back to it.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Who got you back to it? Your people?
- 17:15Speaker 3: It's like, you know the label, Like what did they
- 17:18Speaker 3: tell you? Like, yo, you're overthinking it? Like this, just
- 17:20Speaker 3: be yourself.
- 17:21Speaker 2: It was myself and like I said the fan, the criticism,
- 17:23Speaker 2: it made me go back to it made you go
- 17:25Speaker 2: back to the drawing board, like look got me here.
- 17:28Speaker 2: And I used to talk to God. He would tell
- 17:29Speaker 2: me to stop overthinking this shit too.
- 17:32Speaker 3: Made Meg's on the album with the song how I Look,
- 17:36Speaker 3: Yeah you gotta line I.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Love you say, just drove by the cemetery. It's plenty
- 17:39Speaker 1: room for holes.
- 17:41Speaker 3: You were making this study, it seemed to become like
- 17:43Speaker 3: really close during your tour together. Do you feel like
- 17:46Speaker 3: that experience of love and acceptance was made Is the
- 17:49Speaker 3: norm with women in the rap game?
- 17:51Speaker 1: Are they usually more conflict.
- 17:56Speaker 2: I feel like if she genuine, then it's just gonna happen. Like,
- 18:00Speaker 2: you know, a lot of she'd be fake, you know,
- 18:01Speaker 2: just industry relationships. But being on tour Meg and she
- 18:04Speaker 2: didn't hang around her like even now, she'll call me
- 18:06Speaker 2: every other day or text me and I'll do the
- 18:08Speaker 2: same to her and it's just genuine. It ain't forced
- 18:10Speaker 2: or nothing like that. And so I just feel like,
- 18:12Speaker 2: if he's genuine, then it ain't gonna be no conflict.
- 18:15Speaker 1: I did that relationship first developed.
- 18:18Speaker 2: My head went to her. Uh, she had a no okay,
- 18:21Speaker 2: So I went to a Halloween party. That was the
- 18:22Speaker 2: first time I met her, and then I went to
- 18:24Speaker 2: her like Nike and release party. It was around her birthday,
- 18:27Speaker 2: and then that same week we went to the studio.
- 18:30Speaker 1: It's that same way. Yeah, how many songs y'all record?
- 18:33Speaker 2: We had recorded too? We recorded or want to be
- 18:35Speaker 2: in her song Accent. We recorded Accent first and then
- 18:39Speaker 2: we did want to Be second, and then we just
- 18:42Speaker 2: put them jump out.
- 18:43Speaker 1: How was the experience of the tour? What did you
- 18:45Speaker 1: What did you learn on that tour?
- 18:49Speaker 2: It was like I was already in up in the
- 18:51Speaker 2: midst of building my company because I was going I
- 18:53Speaker 2: was in gym ay day, I still be in gym
- 18:55Speaker 2: may day and she and then like my performance just
- 18:57Speaker 2: got better than shit. Yeah, it was just like, did
- 19:01Speaker 2: I guess.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Just make somebody that you like can go to for
- 19:05Speaker 1: advice and you know, just help guide you through this game?
- 19:08Speaker 2: Yeah? Like cern she that I asked her about it,
- 19:11Speaker 2: She will let me know. She'll tell me about it.
- 19:14Speaker 1: What about a card because I know Cardi is your
- 19:16Speaker 1: blood cousin. Do y'all kick it? Does she give you
- 19:18Speaker 1: advice on how to navigate through this industry?
- 19:21Speaker 2: Yeah? I be calling Carded sometime. We be talking about
- 19:23Speaker 2: stuff and she would give me like little too.
- 19:25Speaker 3: I love card When when you see her like going
- 19:27Speaker 3: off about her relationship, do you call her and try
- 19:29Speaker 3: to talk her off the ledge?
- 19:30Speaker 2: Nah? Because you know you gotta let it out sometime.
- 19:35Speaker 1: You know, you don't think people be giving social media
- 19:37Speaker 1: too much.
- 19:39Speaker 2: I mean to each his own, like, you know, if
- 19:41Speaker 2: she feels like this whole way of letting it out,
- 19:43Speaker 2: did that's what she gotta do?
- 19:45Speaker 3: The reason I asked that though, because you clearly have
- 19:46Speaker 3: no problem calling your friends and telling them the man
- 19:49Speaker 3: they would don't deserve them. Yeah, you got to sew
- 19:52Speaker 3: much money. Long phenomenal record by the way, called her
- 19:54Speaker 3: Don't Deserve.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Yeah, what inspired that record?
- 19:58Speaker 2: Because I go through a lot. I haven't been through
- 20:00Speaker 2: a lot of shit with relationships, and then I had
- 20:02Speaker 2: friends like that I learned she from and their relationships
- 20:05Speaker 2: and they be going through stuff and I'd be like,
- 20:07Speaker 2: you all got to go through there, like he ain't
- 20:09Speaker 2: even he shouldn't even be the one taking you through there.
- 20:12Speaker 2: And so I just they gave me an idea to
- 20:14Speaker 2: make a song about it.
- 20:15Speaker 3: The tone feels, uh, it feels similar to like Eve
- 20:18Speaker 3: Love is Blind.
- 20:19Speaker 1: Yeah, was that like an inspirationion for that record?
- 20:22Speaker 2: Yeah, because once I was making the record, I was like,
- 20:24Speaker 2: mm ain't nobody made another record like that like Eve
- 20:28Speaker 2: did with this song. So yeah, they gave me.
- 20:30Speaker 1: I love this song man who put you onto all
- 20:32Speaker 1: that old music?
- 20:33Speaker 3: Because then you got a bar and the glorious album
- 20:36Speaker 3: You see t I serious and that's like a reference
- 20:40Speaker 3: said and you say something like but he said, he
- 20:42Speaker 3: said he want to see the pussy cream, So cash rules,
- 20:45Speaker 3: that's wu Tang. Then just got the love his blind
- 20:48Speaker 3: tone like who puts you on all of that? You
- 20:50Speaker 3: know that classic music.
- 20:51Speaker 2: My parents, oh by my daddy seventy three. My mama
- 20:55Speaker 2: seeks the one.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Yeah, she's super Christian, but she know the mirrors hip
- 21:02Speaker 1: hop and the hut yeah.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Okay not not not like the hip hop that was
- 21:06Speaker 2: on TV like you want on six and Park type
- 21:08Speaker 2: of hip hop. Yeah, and my mama lively ts. My
- 21:12Speaker 2: mama ts. But yeah, you know, I got an old family.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Like until your older siblings and everybody was like they.
- 21:19Speaker 2: Falled in in their thirties and stuff. So I know
- 21:21Speaker 2: a lot about old schools.
- 21:22Speaker 3: So when you was a jit, there was you heard
- 21:24Speaker 3: all of that. Growing up, got you got you? Has
- 21:26Speaker 3: your mom met you yet? Have you been that happening?
- 21:28Speaker 2: I faced I saw ta in the airport in Atlanta
- 21:31Speaker 2: one day, and I face my.
- 21:32Speaker 1: MoMA and let her see and what she said.
- 21:35Speaker 2: So you know how how your mama be when they
- 21:37Speaker 2: in the bed and they ain't got their stuff together,
- 21:39Speaker 2: they be like right, She was like this.
- 21:43Speaker 3: Also on the record, though, Deserve, you said, we all
- 21:45Speaker 3: been stupid for these niggas. Once upon a time, those
- 21:47Speaker 3: red flags be looking green, but we get color blind.
- 21:51Speaker 1: How do you know when a flag is actually red
- 21:53Speaker 1: and not green?
- 21:55Speaker 2: This cooler bland faught like because you don't know like
- 21:58Speaker 2: they be. They be putting on like a little masquerade
- 22:01Speaker 2: looking like they something when it's when they when it's
- 22:04Speaker 2: not it. And so you got to, you know what
- 22:07Speaker 2: I'm saying, dive deep into and it. Then you'll realize
- 22:10Speaker 2: whole person really is.
- 22:12Speaker 1: You think you got it all figured out.
- 22:13Speaker 2: Now I ain't got it all figured out.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Yeah, so you still get colored black every time now, like.
- 22:17Speaker 2: I'm really still now like I don't like I don't
- 22:20Speaker 2: follow to deep in nothing no more. Yeah, yeah, like
- 22:22Speaker 2: I don't put my isle into nothing.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Can red flags turn green?
- 22:28Speaker 2: Can red flags turn green? No? As far as you
- 22:32Speaker 2: puck up on, you let a red flag or red
- 22:35Speaker 2: fleg slat, and then you're just gonna get worse. It's
- 22:38Speaker 2: gonna turn to a lot on.
- 22:39Speaker 1: Can a green flag turn ray? You think it's a
- 22:44Speaker 1: gold and it's nope?
- 22:45Speaker 3: Stop maybe oh no, don't deserve you tell your friend
- 22:54Speaker 3: you say, don't let them cheat on you, don't let
- 22:56Speaker 3: them beat on you, and then on, uh, I ain't
- 22:58Speaker 3: going you speak to that. You also seem like you
- 23:00Speaker 3: speak to theme with the domestic violence as well, because
- 23:01Speaker 3: you say I ain't going for all that rough me
- 23:03Speaker 3: up and grabbed me by my neck. Nigga put his
- 23:05Speaker 3: hands on me. Nigga put his hands on me. We're
- 23:06Speaker 3: gonna be smoking on him next.
- 23:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:08Speaker 3: I love the fact you're raising domestic violence awaitness, But
- 23:11Speaker 3: it seems like you had a lot of experience with it.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Are you know people who.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Have yeah, both of them. Yeah, Like I ain't never
- 23:18Speaker 2: like I didn't been in like a free situation, but
- 23:21Speaker 2: I ain't. Dang, it was just been too bad, Like,
- 23:23Speaker 2: oh my god, it's a continuous thing because like I
- 23:25Speaker 2: don't play it, but it seem like a few of
- 23:28Speaker 2: my friends go through it and it be a continuous thing,
- 23:31Speaker 2: and shit, they're just a song for it, so they
- 23:33Speaker 2: can know, like not to go for it.
- 23:35Speaker 1: You did.
- 23:36Speaker 3: You did a lot of justice to wipe me down too.
- 23:39Speaker 3: It's hard to remake those Negro spirituals, but you put
- 23:41Speaker 3: your own thing on it. What gave you the confidence
- 23:44Speaker 3: to touch down.
- 23:46Speaker 2: On the beat when the beat came and stuff? It
- 23:49Speaker 2: was just like you just gotta be you gotta be good.
- 23:52Speaker 2: You can't mess with no classic.
- 23:53Speaker 3: Did you reach out to Busy to get his to
- 23:55Speaker 3: get his blessing or you just did it and let
- 23:57Speaker 3: him hear it.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Boosie was in the video. He heard the song.
- 23:59Speaker 3: I'm talking talking before I know he was a video,
- 24:01Speaker 3: but before you just recorded it.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Oh no, he heard it when I hear put the
- 24:05Speaker 2: snippet on. Uh well, I was on lab and I
- 24:07Speaker 2: hear preview.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Did you make sure he get paid? He be talking
- 24:11Speaker 3: about everybody sampling. Can you talk about everybody sampling his
- 24:14Speaker 3: music and not paying him? Did you make sure he
- 24:15Speaker 3: got Oh?
- 24:16Speaker 1: He good? Okay, what made you want to put sexy
- 24:18Speaker 1: on it? Just to do the clap?
- 24:21Speaker 2: Y'all always you know the world been on the meet
- 24:23Speaker 2: in the six Rid collab and she's so we had
- 24:25Speaker 2: to make that happen. And then I was like, okay,
- 24:27Speaker 2: this is a fun song. This is not like something
- 24:28Speaker 2: she would get on because we ate. I ain't gonna
- 24:30Speaker 2: say that, but yeah, what're you about say?
- 24:32Speaker 1: Y'all ack like nah nothing, But you know my niece
- 24:38Speaker 1: is a DJ nowllars some more.
- 24:39Speaker 3: And she said that when you're in the club now
- 24:41Speaker 3: you gotta play your sexy red set. You gotta play
- 24:44Speaker 3: a glow real estet. So I guess you're right you said,
- 24:46Speaker 3: because y'all did a record together. So now she got
- 24:48Speaker 3: she said, she's good that y'all did a record together
- 24:50Speaker 3: because she can put it in there in that rotation
- 24:52Speaker 3: with y'all.
- 24:53Speaker 2: M yep. So what I would finishing was it was
- 24:57Speaker 2: in the studio working on something and we actually did
- 24:59Speaker 2: another song, and so I'm like, oh, you know what,
- 25:01Speaker 2: I hear you on this long like because she had
- 25:03Speaker 2: to go to a show. I'm like, okay, I'm just
- 25:05Speaker 2: gonna send it. See you when you just get on this.
- 25:07Speaker 2: And then she did her verse.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Somebody told me, y'all doing the album together.
- 25:10Speaker 2: That's true? Oh who told you that?
- 25:12Speaker 1: All the what the hell? I heard that?
- 25:14Speaker 2: It may it cometry one day, but you know one
- 25:16Speaker 2: days like a mixtape, it maybe can be a mixtape,
- 25:20Speaker 2: but we we don't any started day and how many
- 25:29Speaker 2: I don't know who.
- 25:31Speaker 3: It's an album coming sex and you read Lauryla album
- 25:33Speaker 3: coming soon now crop top with some bike and shorts
- 25:37Speaker 3: showing off my moose knuckle uh my.
- 25:39Speaker 1: Man and nave Green.
- 25:40Speaker 3: He took a picture with him at Drew Ski's festival,
- 25:43Speaker 3: and he said in his capture on Instagram, big Glow
- 25:46Speaker 3: wasn't lying knuckle for damn show. Hashtag moose knuckle Monday.
- 25:52Speaker 3: I feel like your moose knuggle is gonna have its
- 25:55Speaker 3: own Instagram page. So and I never heard a woman
- 25:58Speaker 3: own their moose knuggle the way that you have. When
- 26:01Speaker 3: did that start?
- 26:01Speaker 1: Oh?
- 26:02Speaker 2: Okay, So I ain't on that, Like when I be
- 26:04Speaker 2: posting certain pictures, like I really got it from the
- 26:06Speaker 2: fans to like they'd be like, damn, you got a
- 26:08Speaker 2: moo snuckle on you, And so I'm like I just
- 26:12Speaker 2: took like they say it all the time. And so
- 26:14Speaker 2: while I was rapping because the line I said, do nothing,
- 26:17Speaker 2: I'm like, what around with it? Do nothing?
- 26:19Speaker 1: That?
- 26:19Speaker 2: Like move snug? I'm like, fucking I'm say it like
- 26:21Speaker 2: because they always be saying it about me. And so
- 26:24Speaker 2: that's how that ball came about.
- 26:27Speaker 1: It own everything about you? Why not? Why not?
- 26:30Speaker 3: There's a hopefulness I think I believe in an optimism,
- 26:35Speaker 3: you know, and a faith in God and so many
- 26:39Speaker 3: of your lyrics if people are really paying attention, if
- 26:42Speaker 3: someone counted how many times you reference God on Glorious,
- 26:44Speaker 3: it would be.
- 26:45Speaker 1: A whole lot.
- 26:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:47Speaker 3: So I know you know who your family, right, but
- 26:50Speaker 3: who else instilled that in you? Especially coming from you know,
- 26:54Speaker 3: a city like Memphis, because city Memphis was just recently
- 26:57Speaker 3: ring like the number one most dangerous city in America.
- 27:01Speaker 3: So who gives you that sense of optimism to say,
- 27:04Speaker 3: you know what, I can make it out of a
- 27:05Speaker 3: treacherous city like this.
- 27:06Speaker 2: It was a lot of churches and mean because you
- 27:08Speaker 2: know them. It's like Memphis like and then you know
- 27:10Speaker 2: down south it's a lot of churches. So like I,
- 27:13Speaker 2: it was just how I grew up. My background just
- 27:16Speaker 2: church like even though we was in Memphis, it was
- 27:19Speaker 2: just still a church.
- 27:20Speaker 3: Did you know you wanted to make it out the
- 27:23Speaker 3: city or was your mindset like I want to get successful,
- 27:26Speaker 3: come back and maybe change change was going on.
- 27:29Speaker 2: I want to do that too, Like I for Show,
- 27:31Speaker 2: the goal is always to make it out, but I
- 27:32Speaker 2: for show on the one day, see if I can
- 27:34Speaker 2: make it better. It's a lot of work, but hopeful
- 27:37Speaker 2: the one day.
- 27:38Speaker 1: Have you always been just optimistic about life?
- 27:42Speaker 2: M h, of course you got to be.
- 27:46Speaker 1: How do you stay how you stay from being pessimistic?
- 27:51Speaker 1: He was a big.
- 27:54Speaker 3: Optimism is the opposite of pessimism. Pessimism mean, how do
- 27:58Speaker 3: you keep from just being negative and thinking everything's gonna
- 28:02Speaker 3: be bad? And you know the sky is falling.
- 28:05Speaker 2: Honestly, I always preper for the worst. I pray for
- 28:07Speaker 2: the bits, but always I'm always a praying for the worst.
- 28:10Speaker 2: But you know, you just can't walk around negative and
- 28:12Speaker 2: shit or negative. Sheit gonna happen, but you gotta preper
- 28:15Speaker 2: for But you just can't just be negative.
- 28:17Speaker 3: Even at this stage of your life right now, you
- 28:19Speaker 3: like you feel like something bad to be happening.
- 28:23Speaker 2: You know, some shit always don't come out come out
- 28:26Speaker 2: the blue like nothing. It's gonna be rainy days all
- 28:28Speaker 2: the time. But you know, you just gotta pray. That's
- 28:31Speaker 2: how I deal with it. I just pray, stay prayed.
- 28:34Speaker 1: Up every day. That's not won't shine. But that's right.
- 28:37Speaker 3: Uh, there's there's always a conversation about like artists who
- 28:40Speaker 3: get to a certain level of success, they got to
- 28:42Speaker 3: leave their hometown because that's what they hate can be
- 28:45Speaker 3: the strongest.
- 28:45Speaker 1: What are your views on that?
- 28:48Speaker 2: I mean, you don't get to I mean, but I
- 28:51Speaker 2: used to always think before I blew up, I used
- 28:53Speaker 2: to say, I need to see more of the world
- 28:54Speaker 2: other than Memphis, so like I can have more to
- 28:56Speaker 2: rap about. So that's what they mean by that. I understand,
- 29:00Speaker 2: because like, if we're only in Memphis, we're gonna only
- 29:02Speaker 2: wrap about the sheep to go on there. So you
- 29:04Speaker 2: have to go out in the world and experience most
- 29:07Speaker 2: shep to have more sheep to talk about.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Have you have you moved that Memphis right? Yeah?
- 29:12Speaker 2: I live in them.
- 29:14Speaker 1: Is it just better for your music career? Because Memphis
- 29:16Speaker 1: popper Right now?
- 29:17Speaker 3: I think Memphis and Detroit might be the yeah best
- 29:20Speaker 3: hip hop cities, and it's been like that for a
- 29:21Speaker 3: little minute.
- 29:23Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I still go to me for sometime,
- 29:25Speaker 2: and I still keep my Memphis people around me, Like
- 29:27Speaker 2: even if I'm not in Memphis, my people did sprom
- 29:29Speaker 2: Memphis and still being means like they come around and
- 29:31Speaker 2: still keep me on game about anything.
- 29:33Speaker 1: What if you woke up on then and you lost
- 29:35Speaker 1: your accent and he wasn't seeing music.
- 29:38Speaker 2: They're gonna be crazy. I just gonna be crazy and
- 29:41Speaker 2: spoke because everybody say I got such a strong accents,
- 29:44Speaker 2: so I don't see me ever losing it. I'll be
- 29:46Speaker 2: trying to talk proper, but I still don't know how
- 29:48Speaker 2: to What is talking proper? Like how I'm trying to
- 29:51Speaker 2: do right now?
- 29:52Speaker 1: Why are trying to talk so the fuck what you?
- 30:01Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on? Back on stuff?
- 30:03Speaker 2: Like what's happened the thing on my back?
- 30:06Speaker 1: Or they put that little tape to make it tape?
- 30:09Speaker 2: What's something own her? Yeah, it's something back there?
- 30:11Speaker 1: Okay? Do you think.
- 30:15Speaker 3: Do you think it was harder coming up as a
- 30:16Speaker 3: female and Memphis then it might have been in another scene?
- 30:23Speaker 2: You know, now that I look back on it, like
- 30:24Speaker 2: it was, it wasn't really hard, like if you try
- 30:28Speaker 2: and it ain't that hard, like well getting it together,
- 30:31Speaker 2: like because I used have to work to fund my
- 30:34Speaker 2: music career. But it really wasn't hard because I really
- 30:36Speaker 2: put my mind to it. Now that I think about it,
- 30:38Speaker 2: maybe at the time it was, but now that I
- 30:40Speaker 2: look back, I'm like, oh, I really was grinding to
- 30:42Speaker 2: get to where I was. And if you really want something,
- 30:44Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be that hard because it's gonna become
- 30:47Speaker 2: something you really won't. You know what I'm saying, It's
- 30:49Speaker 2: gonna be You know, what.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Was the grind? Did you?
- 30:53Speaker 3: Like, you know, make the music, go to the clubs,
- 30:56Speaker 3: make sure the DJ has had it, do this, do
- 30:58Speaker 3: the runs at the radio station like you did all
- 31:00Speaker 3: of that?
- 31:00Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was just talking about this. I would
- 31:04Speaker 2: be in the club and shit, be I get two
- 31:06Speaker 2: turned off of some little liquor and some little you
- 31:09Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, little weed, I go pay the
- 31:10Speaker 2: DJ a little fifty one hundred dollars, I want fat
- 31:12Speaker 2: to play my song in the club and shit. And
- 31:14Speaker 2: then like I used to like open up for other artists,
- 31:17Speaker 2: pay to perform just so everybody else can see me.
- 31:19Speaker 2: I used to a lot of showcases and then you know,
- 31:22Speaker 2: just having to go to work and you have my
- 31:25Speaker 2: chick to pay for a marriage video or studio time.
- 31:28Speaker 2: So now I think about it, it was hard because
- 31:31Speaker 2: you know, you know what I'm saying, mother fulkers on't
- 31:33Speaker 2: having the money like that. But I really wanted it,
- 31:35Speaker 2: so we want it hard. And now that I'm around it,
- 31:37Speaker 2: you don't seem like it was hard.
- 31:39Speaker 1: So what was the big break? Like, like, what was
- 31:41Speaker 1: the moment where Gody or whoever was discovering.
- 31:44Speaker 2: You, you know, after I had fing else and it
- 31:47Speaker 2: had went viral and shit, and then all the labels
- 31:50Speaker 2: was calling, and shit, I was just going to label me,
- 31:52Speaker 2: to label me, to label me, and then got it
- 31:55Speaker 2: had been here.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Hit me up.
- 31:57Speaker 2: I don't know, I was just like I was like nervous,
- 31:59Speaker 2: I was scared. And then but when I actually had
- 32:02Speaker 2: linked over with him, and shit, it was like he
- 32:04Speaker 2: was the one that was talking the most sensible and
- 32:06Speaker 2: then actually it was genuine, like everybody else just weren't
- 32:09Speaker 2: really talking genuine. They didn't think I would make it
- 32:12Speaker 2: past Epanel and I was playing Tomorrow for them, like
- 32:15Speaker 2: they didn't know tomorrow would be that big. Like they
- 32:16Speaker 2: were just like okay, and they'll come with deals that
- 32:19Speaker 2: was so low and shit and like they really believe
- 32:22Speaker 2: and she but when out here pulled up on god it,
- 32:24Speaker 2: he didn't even wanted to hear He was like, we
- 32:26Speaker 2: ain't even talking about FNL no more, like I wanted
- 32:27Speaker 2: to hear the other music. And so I was on
- 32:29Speaker 2: the yacht, I hooked up to the OX and I
- 32:31Speaker 2: just played all my music and then yeah, was.
- 32:34Speaker 1: You were you intimidating?
- 32:36Speaker 2: What do you mean?
- 32:37Speaker 3: Like, because because it's got like yeah, yeah, And but
- 32:43Speaker 3: he would be the person I think that you would
- 32:45Speaker 3: relate to the most, cause he from.
- 32:46Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, that's what made it better because he
- 32:50Speaker 2: related to me more, and like it was like a
- 32:52Speaker 2: connection that didn't nobody else have when I was talking
- 32:54Speaker 2: to him. So when I talked to him, I felt
- 32:56Speaker 2: a better connection. But I was just like cook, everybody always,
- 32:59Speaker 2: everybody from me just want to sign that guy. So
- 33:02Speaker 2: I was just I was just nervous. I don't know
- 33:03Speaker 2: why I was nerves out nervous.
- 33:04Speaker 1: What other labels did you meet with? Because I mean,
- 33:06Speaker 1: now that I know you hate big words, he probably
- 33:08Speaker 1: was in the.
- 33:08Speaker 2: Me I don't hate you gotta say the like I don't.
- 33:13Speaker 3: Because I'm when you in these meetings. They probably wasn't
- 33:15Speaker 3: speaking your language. God, he was probably speaking your language.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Nah.
- 33:18Speaker 2: He's just like they weren't talking what I wanted to hear,
- 33:20Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying. Like, like I said,
- 33:23Speaker 2: they just won't believe him. To me, I ain't feel
- 33:24Speaker 2: like like I feel like if I would have said
- 33:26Speaker 2: to anybody else, they would probably tried to chill me,
- 33:28Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Yeah, the numbering he was looking for just that too.
- 33:33Speaker 2: But it's like even lending them hear the music like
- 33:35Speaker 2: they want, like you know, I pay attention to people
- 33:37Speaker 2: when my music are playing, like I look at it
- 33:39Speaker 2: by the energy and shit, and.
- 33:41Speaker 1: They just won't moved back.
- 33:42Speaker 2: I could tell that one moved back, and so I'm like, okay,
- 33:44Speaker 2: I know how y'all gonna treat me if I'm saying like,
- 33:46Speaker 2: y'all really only card about these one songs because it
- 33:49Speaker 2: was going up at the sign.
- 33:50Speaker 1: So once you heard, once you realize, God he was
- 33:53Speaker 1: spoking with your other music. He was like, okay, that's
- 33:56Speaker 1: what I need to be.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just talking the most sensible, sensible.
- 33:59Speaker 1: Shit and so so God he signed you. He took
- 34:01Speaker 1: you under his wing.
- 34:02Speaker 3: There was there like any o g female rappers in
- 34:05Speaker 3: Memphis who reached out and served like as a mentor
- 34:08Speaker 3: to you.
- 34:09Speaker 2: Gangster had already reached out before she had already with
- 34:15Speaker 2: I was already talking to her before I blew up,
- 34:16Speaker 2: like she would see me and my old friends rapping.
- 34:19Speaker 2: She was always DM me like y'all so hard, like
- 34:22Speaker 2: she always showing me up?
- 34:24Speaker 1: Did you but you never really? Did you ever really
- 34:25Speaker 1: like to sit down and kick it with it?
- 34:26Speaker 2: And oh I never got a chance to meet her,
- 34:28Speaker 2: but I always talked to her like we was always DMN,
- 34:30Speaker 2: but I never got the chance to meet her. I
- 34:32Speaker 2: made the chick.
- 34:33Speaker 1: Wow. The chat was hard too. Both of them did
- 34:36Speaker 1: she give you in the game with chat.
- 34:38Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she always d M me and say you
- 34:40Speaker 2: got it. You're doing these ship like you know how
- 34:43Speaker 2: the chit gangs like she always come on some gangster
- 34:46Speaker 2: DM me.
- 34:46Speaker 1: Who were your musical influences coming out of Memphis?
- 34:48Speaker 3: Because I read somewhere that you wanted to be a
- 34:50Speaker 3: singer but decided to rap because you lost your voice
- 34:53Speaker 3: by the.
- 34:53Speaker 2: Time I started rapping like this, when she Keethnel was
- 34:56Speaker 2: out and I was listening to him a lot, and
- 34:57Speaker 2: so like I was like a fan of him and
- 35:00Speaker 2: she and I just like how he's how he used
- 35:02Speaker 2: to come on the track, Like sometimes he'll say some
- 35:04Speaker 2: stupid shit, but it was still hard to me, Like
- 35:06Speaker 2: his beat solution was hard. He was just just be
- 35:09Speaker 2: young turning white. And around the time, that's how I
- 35:11Speaker 2: was feeling, And so I'm like, let me start rapping too.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Shit.
- 35:15Speaker 3: It's interesting when you said that you you didn't feel
- 35:17Speaker 3: like you see yourself in this position because you got
- 35:20Speaker 3: so many examples coming from Memphis.
- 35:21Speaker 1: You got the gotdis you got the three six month figures,
- 35:24Speaker 1: you got money bag. You know, like like why why
- 35:28Speaker 1: didn't you think you could do it?
- 35:29Speaker 2: Why didn't that do it.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Yeah, said, why didn't you think you could do it?
- 35:33Speaker 2: I didn't think I could do it.
- 35:34Speaker 1: But now you said you didn't think you would get
- 35:36Speaker 1: to this level. Oh, Christian Wafie won.
- 35:38Speaker 2: An oscar, Like that's right, right, But I don't know,
- 35:41Speaker 2: like I knew it could happen, But I ain't think
- 35:43Speaker 2: like it just happened like unexpectedly, like I knew one
- 35:46Speaker 2: day it would happen, and I knew one day I'll
- 35:49Speaker 2: be living Like you know how some rappers they don't
- 35:51Speaker 2: just instantly go up like there, like they gotta go
- 35:53Speaker 2: through all the stells like I ain't have. I thought
- 35:56Speaker 2: I was maybe would head to this. I ain't no,
- 35:58Speaker 2: I was just don't get big. So I'm blessed. Though.
- 36:02Speaker 3: Do you think calling yourself the Queen of Memphis because
- 36:05Speaker 3: you got a record called Queen of Memphis, think that's
- 36:07Speaker 3: gonna ruffle any feathers?
- 36:08Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, because just you don't only gotta be one queen.
- 36:13Speaker 2: We are queens the chick gangst the people. We are
- 36:15Speaker 2: queens glass and as queens men.
- 36:19Speaker 3: People always talk about the lifestyle and temptation of men
- 36:24Speaker 3: who lived this artist life in this industry, right, what's
- 36:28Speaker 3: that life from the perspective of a woman, because you
- 36:30Speaker 3: could be.
- 36:30Speaker 1: Out here smutting these guys out having your own freak
- 36:34Speaker 1: ass if you wanted that.
- 36:40Speaker 2: I think it's pretty different from a male and a female.
- 36:42Speaker 2: It's from females to get active now too, But you
- 36:45Speaker 2: know it's it's pretty much the same life. But we
- 36:48Speaker 2: just don't, like we don't go to him like at
- 36:50Speaker 2: the dudes like y'all just gotta have some shit going.
- 36:52Speaker 1: Like, ain't on y'all now, I gotta ring on.
- 37:01Speaker 2: The RAFs, like they just gotta have so much shit
- 37:05Speaker 2: going on at once and we ain't got through all it.
- 37:07Speaker 3: So you mean to tell me when y'all women be
- 37:09Speaker 3: sitting around with all the money and the influence and
- 37:12Speaker 3: the power y'all got, y'all don't never think about doing
- 37:15Speaker 3: these dudes the way these dudes.
- 37:17Speaker 1: Be doing women, Like what type of way? Just smoking
- 37:20Speaker 1: them up?
- 37:21Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but I'm saying, like they addicted to it,
- 37:23Speaker 2: like it gotta happen all the time. We ain't gotta
- 37:27Speaker 2: do this.
- 37:27Speaker 1: That's the that's a power trip though, gotta be power trip,
- 37:30Speaker 1: that's what I think.
- 37:31Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just like I don't know they it's
- 37:34Speaker 2: some type of fetish or I don't know, y'all know,
- 37:38Speaker 2: I mean they know.
- 37:40Speaker 1: I'm glad you said. They what's your relationship with Damian
- 37:44Speaker 1: a Little?
- 37:45Speaker 3: Like somebody? They just asked them about you the other
- 37:47Speaker 3: day at the press conference. Look at you dropping ship,
- 37:49Speaker 3: getting all nervous thinking about that once you're getting all
- 37:55Speaker 3: nervous thinking about that man.
- 37:56Speaker 1: They just they just help you. You gotta uh.
- 38:02Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. Something I had to
- 38:04Speaker 2: put on ye steak yeah, hug right there.
- 38:08Speaker 1: Pause, Well.
- 38:11Speaker 2: You can stick it through anyone right now.
- 38:14Speaker 1: Yep, yep, there you go. Thank you.
- 38:19Speaker 3: Damien Little, they said they asked him about you, and
- 38:23Speaker 3: he said, you know, I keep my personal life personal
- 38:25Speaker 3: and let it be that.
- 38:26Speaker 1: I respect her as an artist. We know each other.
- 38:28Speaker 3: She's an artist. I'm an artist. But as far as
- 38:30Speaker 3: anything else, it ain't nothing going on. That's what I
- 38:32Speaker 3: can tell you.
- 38:34Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that.
- 38:36Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Did you ever did y'all ever speak kick it talk nothing?
- 38:40Speaker 1: You know.
- 38:40Speaker 2: It's a lot of niggas in the world and they
- 38:42Speaker 2: keep seeing it about xbout one. It's gonna hook me up.
- 38:48Speaker 1: You better start talking about some mother shut shout out
- 38:52Speaker 1: a couple other ones. Now, does anybody in your family
- 38:57Speaker 1: have an issue with your music?
- 38:58Speaker 3: Because you know you mentioned it a little bit earlier,
- 39:01Speaker 3: meaning folks like they said you can't give glory to
- 39:02Speaker 3: God and still a rap about ratship. People think it
- 39:05Speaker 3: can't be a balance. So because any of your family
- 39:07Speaker 3: members ever say you can't do the secular music?
- 39:10Speaker 1: Got them?
- 39:11Speaker 2: They just all supportive. But I ain't got to do.
- 39:15Speaker 1: All of them? Yeah, do you pay everybody bills?
- 39:19Speaker 2: The ones that I feel like I should pay you
- 39:22Speaker 2: my mom and my daddy.
- 39:24Speaker 1: You got nine siblings, Do any of them want to
- 39:26Speaker 1: be in the business? Are they in the business?
- 39:27Speaker 2: Are they everybody got their own wife? Like? Nobody look
- 39:30Speaker 2: at me like, oh you're a rap. I gotta do
- 39:32Speaker 2: something like this, like everybody of their own person.
- 39:35Speaker 1: That's okay.
- 39:36Speaker 3: Being the eighth child born out of ten kids, do
- 39:39Speaker 3: you ever like battle with helping your family out versus being.
- 39:44Speaker 1: You know, tight with your money own type? Okay?
- 39:48Speaker 2: And I'm supersight cause I just think like and not
- 39:51Speaker 2: even with family with any batter like, cause if you
- 39:53Speaker 2: do all run out for me, who's gonna hear me out?
- 39:54Speaker 1: That's right?
- 39:55Speaker 2: So I'm tight anyway, like I hear people where that
- 39:58Speaker 2: needs to be health there, but overdoing it, I don't.
- 40:00Speaker 2: I don't play there.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Have you learned that? No? It was a complete sentence,
- 40:04Speaker 1: m for sure. Do they respect? You know?
- 40:07Speaker 2: Got to what else they go do?
- 40:09Speaker 1: That's right?
- 40:10Speaker 3: Are you old enough to know about female rappers like
- 40:13Speaker 3: the Little Kim's and the Foxy Browns?
- 40:14Speaker 1: Did you hear that growing up? You know?
- 40:17Speaker 2: I knew Little Kim always because of just hub being
- 40:21Speaker 2: Little Kim and being a FASTI act what you was,
- 40:23Speaker 2: But I ain't hear a lot of the music. I
- 40:25Speaker 2: read some of her music growing up, but you know,
- 40:27Speaker 2: down south like and then my mama didn't listen to
- 40:30Speaker 2: a lot of rap anyway, and so I really had
- 40:33Speaker 2: grew up and learned about them myself.
- 40:34Speaker 1: What about like? So he was more like treeing, Uh, yeah,
- 40:37Speaker 1: I know about okay?
- 40:39Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was gonna ask, like, you know that
- 40:41Speaker 3: those women faced a lot of backlash for their lyrics
- 40:44Speaker 3: and the things they rapped about.
- 40:47Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about that?
- 40:48Speaker 3: And do you feel like your generation has those same
- 40:50Speaker 3: experiences because they seem like they be on your head
- 40:52Speaker 3: and sexy red head about y'all saying what do you
- 40:55Speaker 3: What do you feel about that?
- 40:56Speaker 2: I'm guiltful because the people who like it gonna listen
- 40:59Speaker 2: to it, like if you I don't like it, apparently
- 41:00Speaker 2: you know, not one of my fans don't listen to it.
- 41:03Speaker 3: It's just that you've been successful for a while now,
- 41:07Speaker 3: but you was down probably much longer than you was up. Yeah,
- 41:11Speaker 3: that's safe to say, right, But what's been more memorable
- 41:13Speaker 3: to you? To struggle or the joy both of them.
- 41:16Speaker 2: I was just walking last night, I was walking down
- 41:18Speaker 2: town Square. I'm just like I had a lot of
- 41:20Speaker 2: fun times, memorial times when I was broke, Like you know,
- 41:24Speaker 2: it's like you got a lot of fun times when
- 41:25Speaker 2: you broke, Like I was just thinking about shit. I'm like, damn,
- 41:28Speaker 2: when I used to be working here or doing this,
- 41:30Speaker 2: Like we was having a lot of fun. But I
- 41:32Speaker 2: can say that about being rich too, Like I just
- 41:35Speaker 2: enjoyed my whole life now that I look back on it,
- 41:37Speaker 2: like grateful more now I'm looking back on it than
- 41:40Speaker 2: I was at the time, maybe because it could have
- 41:43Speaker 2: been worse than what it was.
- 41:44Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, and the song that I referenced before,
- 41:47Speaker 3: you said you learn to forgive people even if they
- 41:49Speaker 3: don't apologize because having peace.
- 41:51Speaker 1: Of mind is more important to you.
- 41:53Speaker 3: Yeah, coming from a generation where people are more concerned
- 41:55Speaker 3: with optics, how do you shut out the noise of
- 41:58Speaker 3: what everybody else is doing around you to keep your peace?
- 42:03Speaker 2: Because that's what you gotta focus on your piece and
- 42:05Speaker 2: nobody else life. I can't let nobody else puck on
- 42:08Speaker 2: my jewel, Like I can't just be mad at you
- 42:10Speaker 2: all the time. And what's this gonna help? Just being
- 42:12Speaker 2: mad at you? Like, no, it's gonna puck up my peace.
- 42:15Speaker 2: So I gotta do whatever make me happy and keep
- 42:17Speaker 2: me peace.
- 42:18Speaker 1: What you do to keep your peace?
- 42:20Speaker 2: Worry about myself, be in the gym, like stay healthy,
- 42:23Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, feeding too myself, poring to myself.
- 42:27Speaker 1: Does your mom soll make you go to church? And
- 42:28Speaker 1: she was like glow after you act. Make sure you
- 42:30Speaker 1: go to church and get.
- 42:32Speaker 2: Online, watch something, mama, make sure I pray. She always
- 42:35Speaker 2: send me like a little videos with certain pasts and
- 42:37Speaker 2: messages and stuff. But Y always pray. She always texts
- 42:40Speaker 2: me from motivational.
- 42:43Speaker 1: What's the last thing she texts you? What she text
- 42:44Speaker 1: you this morning? Oh?
- 42:45Speaker 2: I probably you know text this morning but I can't
- 42:48Speaker 2: remember the last thing she texted me, but she always
- 42:50Speaker 2: say I love you and stuff and make sure you
- 42:52Speaker 2: pray all it.
- 42:54Speaker 1: You know, the most important affirmation she ever told you
- 42:56Speaker 1: the one that sticks with you.
- 42:59Speaker 2: Man, it's something I can tell me. I can't just
- 43:01Speaker 2: think of one.
- 43:03Speaker 3: When you look at a project, Pat he's preaching now, yeah,
- 43:07Speaker 3: do you see yourself making that move in the future.
- 43:10Speaker 2: I think it can happen. On it for sure. I
- 43:12Speaker 2: think it can happen. People already be saying like I'm
- 43:15Speaker 2: ministered to them in my mumusic one day can.
- 43:19Speaker 1: My final question, what does success look like? A gorilla?
- 43:22Speaker 1: What is it? What is your end goal?
- 43:24Speaker 2: My end goal is to make my mark where I
- 43:28Speaker 2: knew where I made it, and I be able to
- 43:31Speaker 2: take care of all my people. I love the way
- 43:33Speaker 2: I want to and.
- 43:36Speaker 1: She yeah, yeah. Are you happy? Are you having fun? Yes?
- 43:42Speaker 3: I am just in just in life overall. Yes, Sam,
- 43:45Speaker 3: What do you want this album to do? What would
- 43:47Speaker 3: success look like for this glorious album, which I think
- 43:50Speaker 3: is a phenomenal body of work, by the way, like
- 43:53Speaker 3: really really really really good.
- 43:55Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 43:56Speaker 3: I don't want to jump out the window because I
- 43:58Speaker 3: just got it a couple of days ago, and I've
- 43:59Speaker 3: been listening to a lot.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's really really real.
- 44:02Speaker 3: I want to put too much pressure on you, and
- 44:03Speaker 3: I don't want to put too much sauce on it
- 44:05Speaker 3: for people watching because I want to name for themself.
- 44:07Speaker 1: But it's really, really, really good. So what would success
- 44:09Speaker 1: look like for you in this project?
- 44:12Speaker 2: I wanted to go number one. I wanted to like
- 44:14Speaker 2: be a like an everlasting album, like an album that's
- 44:17Speaker 2: for elbing rotation, like one of them classics that people
- 44:20Speaker 2: always remember, like when You Bring Up was one of
- 44:23Speaker 2: the best albums they say Devil.
- 44:26Speaker 1: All right, Golriilla, thank you, appreciate you, thank you.
- 44:31Speaker 2: That was a great interview.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Interview.
- 44:34Speaker 2: You gotta put it with a burden.