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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 1-15-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 3: there and put your name in the drawing. We'll be
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  Speaker 3: talking some Utah Mammoth today. We'll be talking a little
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  Speaker 3: Utah basketball today. We'll be talking a little Utah jazz today.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy Chiays is gonna swing by for the full hour
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  Speaker 3: in studio. Looking forward to that. As is always the case. Hey, look,
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  Speaker 3: last night you're running utes took on a Texas Tech
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  Speaker 3: team that you know. I was texted back and forth
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  Speaker 3: with someone at the game, and I was like, man,
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  Speaker 3: that that effort against BYU, the in state rivalry on
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  Speaker 3: the home floor where you saw some nice things again,
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  Speaker 3: no more of it is the firm stance of the
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  Speaker 3: Sean O'Connell show. But you want to acknowledge progress where
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  Speaker 3: progress is being made. And I was like, okay, there,
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  Speaker 3: you know, looked like there was some glimmers of hope
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  Speaker 3: there and the unfortunate reminder of how tough things are
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  Speaker 3: in Big twelve play smacked you in the face against
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech eighty eight seventy four the final score there.
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  Speaker 3: Keanu Dawes had a better game, which we were asking
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  Speaker 3: for against BYU, but you couldn't get enough out of
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  Speaker 3: everyone else, and JT. Toppin is a problem and is
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  Speaker 3: going to be a problem for everyone in college hoops.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty one points in his thirty six minutes, he was
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  Speaker 3: three or four from three, He had thirteen rebounds, he
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  Speaker 3: had seven assists, so he was flirting with that triple double.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a reason why he's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: lottery pick. Just a tough thing in basket. All the
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  Speaker 3: obvious differences, the obvious benefits of having deep pockets is
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  Speaker 3: they're probably it's probably a little bit more evident even
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  Speaker 3: in college hoops than it is on the college football
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  Speaker 3: world because you can kind of with alchemy and chemistry,
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  Speaker 3: team chemistry and good play calling, you can kind of
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  Speaker 3: make up for some deficits in the college football world
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  Speaker 3: that I think, especially when we get into the bulk
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  Speaker 3: of this big twelve season, you're having a hard time
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  Speaker 3: finding ways to hide your warts. And unfortunately, this Utah
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  Speaker 3: basketball roster right now just has some.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that you got to jump off the bandwagon.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, I think the way these guys play and
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  Speaker 3: the culture that's being established and the effort that's being
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  Speaker 3: established is all the more reason to lend your support
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  Speaker 3: and to show up at the games at least, and
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  Speaker 3: if you have the means, I guess probably there's an
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  Speaker 3: nil factor to your support as well. Eighty eight to
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  Speaker 3: seventy four to the final as Texas Tech smacks the
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  Speaker 3: Running Utes around, drops them to below five hundred on
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  Speaker 3: the year. They are still winless in Big Twelve play,
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  Speaker 3: and it's not an easy road ahead, but we're going
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  Speaker 3: to try to remain positive as the right guy is
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  Speaker 3: driving the bus. Right now, it'll be TCU Kansas State,
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  Speaker 3: and then BYU.
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  Speaker 4: I think you've.
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  Speaker 3: Got a slightly more winnable stretch in the three games following,
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  Speaker 3: although you've got to go on the road to Lawrence.
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  Speaker 4: That's gonna be tough.
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  Speaker 3: You host the number seven right now, Houston Bearcats. You've
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  Speaker 3: got Iowa State at home, so at least some of
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  Speaker 3: those really nasty ranked matchups are gonna be home games
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  Speaker 3: for this Running Uts basketball team. But Alex Jensen doesn't
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  Speaker 3: ask for it to be easy. He doesn't expect it
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  Speaker 3: to be easy. In a lot of ways, he probably
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  Speaker 3: doesn't even want it to be easy, But it's not
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  Speaker 3: got to be for the Running Newts. We'll jump into
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  Speaker 3: that conversation a little bit more. Maybe Gordy has some thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: Although there's a lot of NBA last night, so I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how much you got to watch of the
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  Speaker 3: running Newts, but you know the guy, he's a basketball junkie.
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  Speaker 3: He probably saw at least a little bit of it.
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  Speaker 3: We march closer toward an NFL playoff weekend. You should
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  Speaker 3: go to Big Willies to watch those games. Monday, of course,
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  Speaker 3: is the college football National Championship. And as I was
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  Speaker 3: preparing for the show this morning, if you're not listening,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, to the Dan Patrick Show in the
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  Speaker 3: mornings here on ESPN seven hundred, you're missing a lot
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  Speaker 3: of great stuff. Also, people have text about it and asked. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: Scott Mitchell is no longer doing the Down and Dirty.
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  Speaker 3: The hour before my show, Rich Eisen is on, and
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  Speaker 3: I love Scott, You love Scott, but if you have
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  Speaker 3: to replace Scott, doing so with Rich Eisen is about
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  Speaker 3: as good as you can do. I could listen to
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  Speaker 3: like a four hour Rich Eisen show. The guy is
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  Speaker 3: just phenomenal. And he had Josh Pate on this morning
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  Speaker 3: and they were having the conversation that I think is
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  Speaker 3: incredibly relevant right now to the world of Utah football,
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  Speaker 3: Utah basketball, Utah gymnastics, Utah women's basketball. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: relevant to what BYU is doing. I think it's relevant
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  Speaker 3: to what Utah State is trying to do under Bronco Mendenhall.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's incredibly relevant to every team in and
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  Speaker 3: outside of the Power for conferences. And part of the
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  Speaker 3: conversation that they were having and Josh Paate is he's
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  Speaker 3: become I think top three as far as best in
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  Speaker 3: the business when it comes to the landscape of college football.
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  Speaker 4: I still love Joel Klatt.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of kind of everyone involved with
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  Speaker 3: game day, and I think Josh Pate, you saw the
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  Speaker 3: headlines this week, ESPN plans to get him more involved.
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  Speaker 3: There's an ESPN VP who feels like, and I'm so
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  Speaker 3: grateful to hear this, there's an ESPN VP I don't
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  Speaker 3: know his name slips my mind right now, who feels
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  Speaker 3: that college football was underrepresented on ESPN programming relative to
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  Speaker 3: the interest and the demand in college football.
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  Speaker 4: And I couldn't agree more. The ESPN has become.
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  Speaker 3: An NFL accessory broadcast for obvious reasons. It is the
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  Speaker 3: straw that stirs the drink. Here in the United States
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  Speaker 3: of America, it has become when they do talk college football,
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  Speaker 3: it has become an SEC infomercial. And Josh Paid, I
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  Speaker 3: think is some potentially part remedy to that situation. So
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  Speaker 3: this is not this is not a Josh Paid infomercial.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, I think he's really good at
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  Speaker 3: the gig. And so when he and rich Eisen are
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  Speaker 3: having conversations and they're not the only ones, but maybe
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  Speaker 3: they're some of the best ones, Isaac asked the right question,
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  Speaker 3: and I wanted to extend that question to our show
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  Speaker 3: and more importantly, to our market and to the situation
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  Speaker 3: that UTAH is in right now as we are what
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  Speaker 3: we're twenty four hours away effectively from the transfer portal
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  Speaker 3: being completely done in this cycle from the first iteration
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  Speaker 3: of the single transfer portal window working out either working
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  Speaker 3: out or not working out, depending on how you feel
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  Speaker 3: about where UTAH is trending in that regard. The right
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  Speaker 3: question to ask is how much does nil matter? Like,
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  Speaker 3: where does it rank in terms of its importance in
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  Speaker 3: the college football landscape. And I'm trying to craft my
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  Speaker 3: tweet in my poll question correctly, it'll be up momentarily,
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  Speaker 3: all right. Not as easy to tweet and speak at
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  Speaker 3: the same time as you might think it is. The
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  Speaker 3: question is relative to the other things that are obviously
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  Speaker 3: important coaching, team chemistry, health, Especially for Utah, you have
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  Speaker 3: to address the health equation experience, although experience is often
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  Speaker 3: something that can be remedied through the NIL situation, so
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to put experience completely separate from NIL.
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  Speaker 3: Team chemistry is coaching is luck, just flat out luck.
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  Speaker 3: Nil can't make you luckier, can't make the balls bounce differently.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder how much it affects the way that refs
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  Speaker 3: call games, because remember, referees are human beings. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: actually pretty pleased with the way that officiating was not
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  Speaker 3: a major storyline in the Utah football season. It didn't
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  Speaker 3: feel like you had to go back to many games,
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  Speaker 3: any games really, and say, oh my gosh, if this
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  Speaker 3: penalty is not called and it shouldn't have been, then
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  Speaker 3: Utah's outcome might look a little bit different. I guess
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  Speaker 3: you could point to a couple of occasions in the
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  Speaker 3: BYU game, because you're always going to because of how
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  Speaker 3: how much every single play matters in that game because
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  Speaker 3: of the intensity of that game. The Lander Barton ejection
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  Speaker 3: obviously was like something that there were some people who
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  Speaker 3: thought that wasn't necessarily.
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  Speaker 4: Warranted.
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  Speaker 3: But the bigger story on that play was the surrender
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  Speaker 3: on the tackle and things like that. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: think officiating was a big deal for the Utah football
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  Speaker 3: season or for most of the Big Twelve, most of
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  Speaker 3: the Big twelves important games for that matter. And again,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know whether or not officiating is effected at
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  Speaker 3: all by NIL. I think it's something that we'll have
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  Speaker 3: to take a look at. Are they easier on the
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  Speaker 3: teams that they that know the haves versus the have nots?
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  Speaker 3: Do they kind of find themselves subconsciously supporting the success
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  Speaker 3: of teams that are expected to be successful. Is there
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  Speaker 3: a grand or conspiracy out there that you know, they
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  Speaker 3: get the phone call before the game, Hey we really
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  Speaker 3: need Texas Tech to be good. Hey we really need
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  Speaker 3: BYU to be good. Hey let's let these guys play
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  Speaker 3: this way. I genuinely don't know, and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if NIL would be the reason that there's an effect
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  Speaker 3: on that or not.
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  Speaker 4: At the end of the day NIL belongs.
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  Speaker 3: Where in terms of the hierarchy of importance, think of
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  Speaker 3: those other things that I mentioned, team chemistry, health, flat
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  Speaker 3: out luck, coaching obviously being the big one. Where is nil?
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  Speaker 3: Where's your ability to pay a roster in terms of
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  Speaker 3: the importance of you being successful in college football, college basketball,
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  Speaker 3: college softball, gymnastics, et cetera. And the revenue sports are
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  Speaker 3: obviously the ones.
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  Speaker 4: That are biggest here.
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  Speaker 3: How important is it that you're able to buy your team?
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  Speaker 3: We know that it's important, but is it number one
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  Speaker 3: right now for you?
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  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of people who are so
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  Speaker 5: sick of this landscape. They want to say it's the
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  Speaker 5: most important thing, and it's the only reason so and
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  Speaker 5: so's here we're not.
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  Speaker 4: And I have to push back on that at least
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  Speaker 4: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: And there are some people who will say Indiana is
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  Speaker 3: the perfect evidence why nil is not the most important thing.
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  Speaker 3: And there are other people who say, no, Indiana is
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  Speaker 3: the perfect example of how nil is the thing, because Indiana,
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  Speaker 3: in a non nil world does not exist.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, maybe.
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  Speaker 3: In an non Anile world, Indiana could still be the
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  Speaker 3: power for school that gives Kurt Signetti his shot and
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  Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti's twelve million dollar raise does not come from
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  Speaker 3: an NIL fund. Now, it comes from booster support certainly,
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  Speaker 3: but it's not nil.
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  Speaker 4: Not what we're not the way we're talking about.
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  Speaker 5: Louisiana governor would say, it comes from the taxpayers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're a Louisiana governor who doesn't have any
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  Speaker 3: faith in anyone who's not the governor, you know you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about it afferent apparently Yeah, apparently likes Lane Kiffin,
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  Speaker 3: which yikes, and his giant buyout.
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  Speaker 4: But what I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Put on the poll question where does it rank one, two, three,
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  Speaker 3: or four?
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  Speaker 4: Because it's not lower than four?
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  Speaker 3: All right, all the things that you believe factor in
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  Speaker 3: and and I conspicuously leave out talent because talent is
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  Speaker 3: the thing you're buying.
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  Speaker 5: Talent is an nil, are one and are basically one
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  Speaker 5: in the said the same, That's what you're paying for
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  Speaker 5: is talent. Now, I wanted to delineate between experience.
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  Speaker 4: An nil.
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  Speaker 3: But also you can buy experience, right and you don't
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  Speaker 3: have to say, oh, you know what, we're really talented
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  Speaker 3: this year, but we're young, and because of that, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if we're gonna be able to win those
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  Speaker 3: big games. If you have that feeling and you also
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  Speaker 3: have Oregon money, you also have Ohio State money, you
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  Speaker 3: also have Miami money, You're just gonna go, well, where
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  Speaker 3: are we young? We're young along the defensive line. So
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  Speaker 3: here's what we're gonna do. We believe in these three
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  Speaker 3: young players. I'm gonna make sure I bring in two
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  Speaker 3: more that are experienced from whatever level, hopefully this power
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  Speaker 3: forward level, maybe from Florida State. I'm gonna bring in
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  Speaker 3: a guy from Alabama. I'm gonna get this dude from
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  Speaker 3: Utah who's always producing good defensive linemen, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: push that into the mix with my inexperienced players, right.
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  Speaker 5: Or what Utah is doing and which I think is
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  Speaker 5: fairly shrewd of Utah, of Morgan Scowy and its new
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  Speaker 5: staff to do there they've been They've pulled a couple
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  Speaker 5: of players off the FCS national champion. So that's obviously
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  Speaker 5: lower than Group of five, way lower than Power four,
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  Speaker 5: but a sneaky way to acquire guys that maybe you
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  Speaker 5: can develop into Power four players. There's just there's just
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  Speaker 5: a nil.
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  Speaker 3: You can say, well, we'll just paint anil with the
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  Speaker 3: that's the brush that covers everything.
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  Speaker 4: But it does not.
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  Speaker 3: It does not fix team chemistry if you have bad
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  Speaker 3: team chemistry. In fact, you got to be pretty good
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  Speaker 3: from a culture standpoint to have it not affect team chemistry.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see what was leaking out of Old Miss yesterday? Apparently,
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  Speaker 3: and it kind of surprises me that there's not already
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  Speaker 3: a lot of information between players and stuff. But apparently
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  Speaker 3: contracts in terms of contracts for certain Old Miss players
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  Speaker 3: were found out by other Old Miss players, and now
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  Speaker 3: everyone's just like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now that that's
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  Speaker 3: a chemistry problem. Nil can't fix your chemistry. If anything,
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  Speaker 3: it's a threat to it. So whatever else you think
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  Speaker 3: goes into being a winning team, you can't purchase your
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  Speaker 3: way into culture. You can't purchase your way into luck,
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  Speaker 3: you can't buy your way into good health.
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  Speaker 5: I've always thought drafting was important. Wow, oh, we're not
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  Speaker 5: talking about pro sports.
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  Speaker 3: We're not talking about Yeah we are, though we don't
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  Speaker 3: like to call them pro sports, but they're pro sports.
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  Speaker 5: So don't put drafting where if you're if you're talking
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  Speaker 5: for this discussion, leave drafting out of the equation. Even
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  Speaker 5: though it sounds like pro Sports. So I mean, where
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  Speaker 5: does it rank?
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  Speaker 3: Where where is nil eight seven seven three five three
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  Speaker 3: zero seven hundred at ReOC sports.
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  Speaker 4: I'm putting the poll up and you can vote on
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  Speaker 4: the pole.
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  Speaker 3: Where where does it rank on the James Peterson Arbitrary
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  Speaker 3: Points Index. In terms of importance to success.
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  Speaker 4: On the field.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about like commercial success. I mean we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about the teams that are winning right now. And
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  Speaker 3: you've got a national championship matchup between Indiana, who some
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  Speaker 3: people think is the outlier, and some people think is
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  Speaker 3: the example why nil won't solve your problems. Other people
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  Speaker 3: think it is, Well, that's what nil can do for
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  Speaker 3: even a random school.
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  Speaker 5: The other is Miami, and Miami is a borderline blue blood.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I could really put them all the
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  Speaker 3: way in a blue blood category, but Miami is a
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  Speaker 3: big money always paid their players even before it was
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  Speaker 3: legal type school, and now they're definitely doing it. They've
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  Speaker 3: got a twenty thirty five million dollar roster. So Miami
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  Speaker 3: undoubtedly belongs to this conversation.
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  Speaker 4: And look, Ole.
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  Speaker 3: Miss paid a lot of guys really well, but they're
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  Speaker 3: not the big spender in the SEC.
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  Speaker 4: They were a semi final team.
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  Speaker 3: Oregon is one of the biggest spenders in all of
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  Speaker 3: college football. They didn't make it beyond the semi finals.
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  Speaker 3: To me, that's still a really grand season and I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to cry about it. If I'm Oregon. The
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  Speaker 3: only thing standing in their way of a national championship
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  Speaker 3: this year might be Indiana. Indiana might be the Jordan
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  Speaker 3: Bulls for the University of Oregon, and it might not
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  Speaker 3: stop this year, by the way for Oregon. So I mean,
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  Speaker 3: and then you go down through the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: playoff field and it's like, okay, well, it looks like
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  Speaker 3: most of those teams were big money spenders. But wait,
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  Speaker 3: wait JMU was there, right, Tulane was there? Those teams
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  Speaker 3: cannot be You cannot give the bulk of the responsibility
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  Speaker 3: for their success to nil because they just flat out
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  Speaker 3: are not in the neighborhood of the rest of these
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  Speaker 3: playoff teams. Now, I know the rules are what put
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  Speaker 3: them in there, but even if you zoom out a
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  Speaker 3: little bit and say, well, what about the what about
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  Speaker 3: the other guys that were all almost there? Well, Notre
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  Speaker 3: Dame's a big spender, BYU is a big spender.
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  Speaker 5: But probably not as you made the point about Ole
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  Speaker 5: Miss compared to their counterparts in the SEC. Not huge spenders,
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  Speaker 5: UYU compared to the rest of the CFP field. Probably
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  Speaker 5: not in the neighborhood of most of those teams. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: especially at certain positions like Beart Bachmeer. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: what his deal was, but bear Bachmeyer wasn't getting paid
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  Speaker 5: anywhere near what like Carson Beck's getting.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Probably not what.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Rter Lions got for being the number one quarterback recruit
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: out of high school. Right bear Backmeyer was not that
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: highly touted as a transfer into BYU. He showed that
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: he has that ability and he's undoubtedly re upped in
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: a big way for next season, But going in his
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: deal was I would guess, probably lower than even Rider Lions,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: who's a year at least away from even joining the program,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: let alone being compared to some of the other top
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the Power for now, I don't know if
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: bear re upped during the season, if they renegotiated after
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: like six games and he showed that like well after
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: he beat Utah, maybe like let's keep this kid.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know, because you don't really have
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: to do that. I mean, there's a policy Utah does
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: not do that in season, right. You don't get to
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: be the guy who's like, I scored four touchdowns. If
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: you want me to keep playing, you gotta pay me.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: They don't negotiate with terrorists that way. They will not
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Sounds like a good question for our next Red and
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Blue segment, what's by US policy on that?
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's similar to Sure it's similar.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Like Yu's coaching staff is made cut for the same cloth.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: So I can't imagine.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine walking to Kilanie's office and just being like,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to play the rest of the season
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: unless you give me more money. Saying that to Kilani,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: he'd be like, first of all, he's the kind of guy.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: He's the big brother.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: He's the uncle that you just do not want to disappoint.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: He gives a kind of guilt trippy line, well it's
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: are you being serious, bro, or is this some kind
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: of joke?
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: And then you're saying uh uh uh.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: And then if you do push it too far, Kalani
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: is also the big brother or uncle that you do
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: not want to cross, right, So I can't imagine anyone
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: doing that. I also can't imagine Bear Bachmeyer doing that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: But now that's like Bear last year was making nowhere
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: near market value. This coming season, he's making really good money.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I have on good authority, right And and look, we
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: know that BYU out bid Utah for a couple of guys.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: We know that that BYU outbid several other teams, like
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: the Kadu Lauave, who was the number one linebacker available
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: in the transfer portal, Who's going to BYU. The other
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: team that really wanted him was Michigan, which makes sense.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: And as far as what I've been able to ask
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: talking to certain people, the reason that he ended up
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: going to BYU instead of Michigan is because he's from here.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: He has ties here in Utah, and the price was
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: the same and there was gonna be maybe some questions
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: about how well his credits transferred over to Michigan. And
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Michigan has this weird rule about if you want to
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: graduate from Michigan, you have to have at least I
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: think it's like you have to be there for two
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: semesters or three semesters in order to get your degree
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: from Michigan. So you can't just go finish out your
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: final semester at Michigan and get a degree from Michigan,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: and that maybe Cade was just like, no, I want
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: to move on with my life after this season is over,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: and Michigan's like, well, we won't give you a degree
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: unless we stay for spring.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: We want to move on from you after this season
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: is over then.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: But the reason I even bring that up is because
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: you know, you got to wonder are you able to
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: play with the big boys and il wise, and if
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: you can't at every position in what are the other
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: things that are going to be important to your success.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Indiana is not a team that has compensated every running back,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: every linebacker, every D lineman, every O lineman the same
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: way that Oregon has. And they smashed Oregon the last
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: time they saw him, and they beat him in Eugene.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Right. I guarantee Indiana's.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Payroll for the players is not as high as Miami's is,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: and most of us think that Indiana is gonna dog
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: walk Miami in a National championship game.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: We'll see how that thing plays out. So it's not
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: the only thing.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering if it's even the most important thing, because
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: by you spend a lot of money in sad at
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: home Notre Dames spent a lot of money in sat
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: at home Vanderbilt probably kind of the middle ground.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: They ended up staying at home.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: USC spent a grip of money in the offseason, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: they were sitting at home. And I easily look at
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: that and say, doesn't matter how much money you have
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: if your culture is weak, and if you have that
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: head coach, your culture is gonna be week. So coaching,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I think, is still number one on my list, which
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: means nil is number two on my list, probably because
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I can't completely separate it from player experience. Player talent
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: obviously matters. Even great coaching can't overcome a lack of talent.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: And obviously these things do not stand alone. These are
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: not verticals in a vacuum. These are then diagrams that
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: cross over one another. Hey, what happens if you get
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: a big old pot and you slap it right over
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: the top of a of a culture that's already strong
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: and there's good coaches in it. Well, that's a national
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: championship team.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Where do you put it? James? So what's have you?
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Have?
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: You formulated your your four choices? Yet I know it's
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: not four choices. It's just it's where do you rank?
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: It is number one out of four?
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Where do you rank it? I mean, because it's no
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: lower than four.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: I I think I have it. I think I have
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: it too, because and and people in this market, whether
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: you're a Utah fan or a BYU fan, or you're
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: or you're a fan of neither team, but you can't
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: help but know what's going on with Utah and BYU
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: because it's such a because that's the fan bases are
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: so huge here with both of those schools.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: You you should be able.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know how you put an io one because
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: coaching clearly has been the and and talent development and culture,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: everything that goes into just the the umbrella statement of
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: coaching is the thing that has made Utah what it
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: is right now, and it's starting to be that thing
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: that's made that's making BYU what it is.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Wait, that's an important thing for you to say, by
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: the way, because here on the Home of the Youths,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of our listeners we want to do this right.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: We want to say that BYU is only good because
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: they are allowed to spend their money.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Now compared to Utah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: They are they're spending all there they've been able to
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: spend a lot more recently. Now hopefully that changes from
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: a ute perspective with the with the influx of private
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: equity and everything else. But I think it's it's okay
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: to say compared to Utah, yes, but compared to everyone
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: else in the nation, they're not They're not touching the
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: SEC schools, they're not touching Notre Dame.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Yet maybe they will at some pain.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: And I think more importantly is even if you slap
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: a bunch of BYU dollars, all right, you got a
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: bunch of creamery bucks on that roster. If they're not
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: coached by the guys we know are great coaches because
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: we've seen them be great coaches at the University of Utah.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Like if Kalani Satake is not the head coach there
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: who's managing that culture and doing it while also maintaining
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: all of the other things that you have to as
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: a head coach at b YU, if he's not getting
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: guys like Bear Bachmeyer to be his quarterback who's not
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: LDS right, but fits very much into that community, into
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: that football culture and to that provo culture, he fits
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: into it perfectly, right, that's a coaching thing that's not
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: a pure nil thing, that's not a talent thing, that's
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: not a we spent money and that's how we got
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: this type of thing.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Does it help? Absolutely?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Could Kalani Satake have a Big twelve runner up roster
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: if they weren't the Big twelve runner up in spending?
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Probably?
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Also yes, right, because I think that's where they are.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I think in football it's Texas Tech one b y
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: U two in terms of the in terms of the
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: football spending. But I also think that if you put
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Kilani's players and culture and assistant coaches on like a
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Cincinnati budget, he has more success than Cincinnati.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: And also he's a good coach.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: And think about nationally too, the last few national champions Yes,
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: those schools are giant brands with a lot of NIO money, right,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: But there are also schools with great coaching, with great
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: who've established great cultures. Unfortunately, I think Ryan Day is
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: probably the worst of the recent national championship coaches, but
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: he's been good enough to capitalize on the immense talent
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: that comes to Ohio State, right in order to win
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: a national championship last year, to be in the running
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: for a national championship every year.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Jim.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Now you say what you want about the cheating and
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Connor stallions and whatever. Jim Harbaugh also established an incredible
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: culture at Michigan. Right the national champion a couple of
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: years ago. We've already talked about Indiana all year long.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: So even when you zoom out in the national level,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: among the teams that are winning national championships, and usually
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: this year is an outlier with Indiana being the probable champion,
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: usually it's the those are the biggest spenders in the
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: nation when it comes to anil and facilities and everything else.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Even that, you cannot disregard the coaching and the and
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: and the culture that those coaches have established. Nick Saban
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: for so long. Again he didn't have much time in
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: the nil era, but Nick Saban for so long. It
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: wasn't just because they were Alabama's because of Nick Saban,
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Kirby Smart recently because of what he's done Kurt Signetti
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: this year, And like I said, I think Ryan Day
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: is the weakest set of all of those. But even
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: even among the cheating allegations and scandal with Jim harbaught,
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: he you cannot deny that he also did an incredible
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: job with that, so I I uh, I'm gonna use
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Harba as the outlier here. Maybe he and Ryan Day
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: or outliers.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Well, Look, I think Ryan I think
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Ryan Day's a fine coach.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I think Ryan Day would be evaluated completely differently if
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: he was at a school with a fan base with
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: anywhere near realistic was that Iowa State, we'd be talking about. Well,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Ohio State, better hire that guy, you know what I mean?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: The fact that he's at Ohio State and the only
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: acceptable outcome is a national championship and it took him
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: longer than people wanted to be there. That I think
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: that's the big problem with Ryan Day. And I hate
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: his fake dyed beard, and I think he's a little
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: bit weird and like I think he's a little like
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: football autistic, like a lot of these guys are.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: That's hard to relate to.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: That's fine, but I think that Jim Harbaugh, like it's
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: pretty well established he won a championship because he was
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: stealing signs and he had predictive abilities over what another
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: team would do. Now, I guess there's a certain amount
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: of culture that that comes with that, you know, being
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: confident that you know exactly what's going on. I don't
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: put him in the same category as I put a
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: lot of these other guys in. And I mean, you
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: could push back on everything we talk about with great
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: coach is because like Saban, Nick Saban. Nick Saban was
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: the best coach in football. He developed the best coaching
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: tree in football. He's probably the goat right well, Nick
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Saban was also coaching Alabama teams that were absolutely paying
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: players way before other teams were paying players. So it's
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: not like he was he was playing on an even field.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: And the reason I brought this up in the first
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: place is right, is because we're looking at this transfer portal,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: the window closing. We're seeing Dante Moore announced yesterday that
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: he is staying at the University of Oregon to play
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: another year instead of going to the NFL. He's not
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: going to go into the transfer portal again. The report
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: today is that Dante more is being paid seven and
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: a half million dollars in twenty twenty six to be
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Oregon's quarterback.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: You and I love Utah football, Your supporters of Utah football,
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: you might even be out there listening to you like
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: BYU football. Your school is never paying seven and a
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: half million million dollars for one player. It's not going
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: to happen, right, It's just not unless I guess Ryan
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Smith goes. I really like this kid from I like
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: this Corner Canyon guy. I watched him from his freshman
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: year all the way up to his senior year. I
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: will give you this seven and a half million to
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: pay the Utah equivalent of that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: It's not gonna happen, right.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Is that the reason why Oregon's gonna be in a
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: National championship semi final or a national championship game next year? Well,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: it's it's not not the reason, but it's not the
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: only reason.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: If you give that to a bad coach. We've seen
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: what that looks like. And Dan Lanning has been one
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: of those national guys that, from an outside perspective, really
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: feels like he has been a great established a culture guy,
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: great excell and os coaching staff, and great at that
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: himself gotten better at it each year he's been a
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: head coach.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: So I even.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: At the biggest spenders, coaching is still feels like it's
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: still the most important thing, and it's especially the most
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: important thing in the market. Like hours when you're not
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: gonna be the biggest spenders compare. Maybe you'll be close
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: to that in your conference, but not well, Texas Tech
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: is doing what they're doing it certainly, but you're not
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: gonna be that close to that nationally. Right, So coaching
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: is I think, still the most important thing.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: All Right, we'll.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Get deeper into this conversation later in the show. We're
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: over time. Gordi Chia's is gonna be with us for
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: the next hour. I know Gordy has some thoughts on
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: this exact thing, right because in the pro sports world
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: and in the college football, basketball softball world now, there
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: are way more parallels than there are differences. So we'll
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: pick Gordy's brain about this and everything else regarding the NBA.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: He joins us next on the Sean O'Connell Show ZESPN
• 33:59
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• 34:14
  Speaker 1: He's out, Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: with former Jazz assistant coach Gordon Chiasa. He's forgotten more
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: about the NBA than any of us will ever know.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: Let's not get crazy, Come.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: For the hoops talk, stay for his list of the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: day and this today here's o C with basketball Sabban
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Gordon Chiasa on the Shan O'Connell show.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Welcome in, Gordy Chiasa, our resident NBA guru.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: By the way, it's a National Bagel Day.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Head down to NATO's Bagels, six sixty eight East Union
• 34:46
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• 34:50
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• 34:54
  Speaker 3: York Babel bagels and New York BA Bagels sangwiches, as
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: the owner likes to say, we would call them sandwiches.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: You've heard his commercial. He says sandwiches. They are incredibly authentic.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Down at NATO's Bagels, six sixty eight East Union Square
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: in Sandy, we were talking about this off air. Gordy,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: obviously you could tell by his accent knows a thing
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: or two about a New York bagel.
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: Yes, I do, Hi, Sean very much. You know, bagels
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: are part of the culture back in New York. In
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: New Jersey, absolutely, and people argue over who is the
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: best bagels. Yes, whether it's the guy from Midtown Manhattan
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: or the guy from Cliffside Park, New Jersey, or the
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: guy from Brooklyn and it's an art form.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: And yes, I know, I've had many bagels in my life.
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: As a matter of fact, you know, my family relatives
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: sometimes when they're in New York City, they get up
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: at five thirty in the morning to order the bagels.
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: So they walk into the bagel shop on you say,
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: fifty seventh Street in Midtown, Manhattan. They get to order
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: right away as the owner throws the order at them
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: and they have to catch in the mid air and
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: then go to work that day.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: So when you talk to people from back East and
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: New Yorker specifically about well, come on, because you got
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: to be skeptical if you're not all the way, if
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: you're not indoctrinated to it, right, Like, Okay, I get it,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: your bagels are the best, but why should they be better?
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Are you using different flour? A lot of them will say, no,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: it's the water, it's the New York water.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Whatever.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: What theory do you prescribe to Gordy that separates New
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: York bagels from the rest of our mortal bagels?
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: Love?
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: Okay, it's the love of the of the baker, the
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: love of it. He he's it's a recipe that he's perfected.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: Usually generational and that's why it's great. And so if
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: you're in New York and New Jersey, iight, the three
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: things that are absolutely cultural bagels, pizza, and New York
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: style cheesecake. Oh those three people have arguments. What's better?
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: Who has the pizza, cheesecake or bagels in the city.
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: And to a metro New Jersey, New York end to
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: a fights.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: And it's got to be a You got to be
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: able to be ordered by the slice. If we're talking
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: about New York pizza.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, he gets right, and it's a whole pie.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Come on, what are we talking about, not New York and.
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: A New York style cheesecake. Oh my, that is a
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: whole different thing. Are you a cheesecake guy?
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I try.
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: I kept my enthusiasm, so I have it usually on average.
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: I don't want to exaggerate only three times a year.
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: And that's by design, all right, by design only otherwise
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: I get the whole thing.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: I know that portion control problem.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: You heard what we were talking about, Gordy before we
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: brought you in about the I guess the hierarchy of
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: importance and where and I effectively payroll fits. And you've
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: been around pro sports a long time. You've been watching
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: college basketball since before most of us were born, and
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: you've seen all these changes. So where would you put it,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: like the NILL the spending, the ability to provide from
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: a financial standpoint for college athletes specific, and then we'll
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: get into how it's different or the same in the
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: NBA and another pro sports. But your payroll from an
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: NIL endorsement perspective, however you get that money, how much
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: should that be contributing to your ability to win? If
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: it can't be the most important thing in my mind,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: but it's darn near the most important thing.
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, very much.
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: So the way I listened right now would be one,
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: by far is coaching, absolutely, because coaching in those close games,
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: whether it's football, whether it's basketball, whether it's baseball, et cetera,
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: is that coaching absolutely the little things, the nuances why
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: players overachieve and why they win close battles. Second down,
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: this generation, as it we'll say twenty twenty one, is
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: by far NL money because you need talent. And so
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: now private equity is involved, and it's only the beginning
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: of it. We've only touched the first basis of it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: Going to get much further and further and further out.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: Three is culture and part of culture when you walk
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: in that building and or practice facility, there is a
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: certain amount of respect and discipline that the winning programs have.
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: And the last one is is player development. Is that
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: so you get so your coaching is good, you have
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: a whole bunch of money, the culture is good. And
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: now those guys that are underdeveloped as far as usually physically,
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: and you get them stronger, quicker, and more athletic, and
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: then you work on their skills and you're able to
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: become major contributors or absolute difference makers. And the last
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: point about it is that all the above is that
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: the first four things and the last thing you do
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: need is what a thing called chemistry. So you can
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: have everything going fear but the star players think they're
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: stars and affects all the group, and so chemistry is
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: his most underrated thing in sports. And when the difference
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: makers are team orientated, wow, your team can be champions
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: at every level.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: The chemistry thing is actually for me one of the
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: most important as we're in this nil era, because I
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: don't know how you maintain elite team chemistry and a
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: college program when there's guys who are making nothing, which
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: is not the case in pro sports, like truly zero
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: beside their scholarship, and I guess for walk Ons they
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: got zero zero. And then you've got guys like Dante
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Moore is making seven and a half million bucks like
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: those dynamics I think would be hard to coach.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: Yes, all right, so now comes down to individual respect
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: for your teammates and floormates basketball, floormates, in football, it's
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: fieldmates and other sports, and your teammates are there, so
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: that you've got to respect your teammates as equal, even
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: though you're getting paid more money. And that's when you
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: get them involved as far as decision making. You got
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: your way to really talk to them about things on
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: the field and off the field, and generally speaking, you're
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: sincere about their interests. Even though you're the highest paid
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: performer in the locker room, you really have an interest
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: in everyone else. And that's part of it because you're
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: a leader. Leadership is not only on the field. It's
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: twenty four to seven, and that's why it changes. And
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: we see in the NFL right now, I'm assuming Sean
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: that most of those quarterbacks and the final eight teams
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: in this weekend those guys are all leaders, both on
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: the field, in the locker room above sea level thirty
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: five thousand feet on a charter plane, and also when
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: you're when you're entering the bus before a game. These
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: are all things that we live this life, so that
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: we've seen it firsthand. How white teams have chemistry and
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: why they don't or it's slipping because so and so
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: thinks the more important than the group dramatically.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: It's interesting.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I used to work in the bars and clubs downtown
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: while I was in college and stuff, and the jazz
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: would come through, right. I got to see some of
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: these guys in their young years when they were out
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: clubing and partying and things like that, and I never
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I didn't really put much thought into it at the
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: time other than, wow, that's a big bar tab that
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: guy's picking up. But it was customary, it seemed, at
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: least for the biggest star who happened to be at
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: the club that night to pay the tab. That the
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: guy who was the highest compensated or the highest profile
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: player when he and his friends were hanging out and
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: ordering bottle service to the table, that's the guy who
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: we brought the bill to And when you think about
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: it from this perspective, it's that that wasn't just to
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: flex and say I'm the highest paid guy, I'm the
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: rich guy. I guess if you're the highest paid dude,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: you want to treat your teammates so that they know
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: that it. It maintains a respectful atmosphere, and it's not
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: something that you're lording over them necessarily, but you're you're
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: allowing them to benefit from your contract as well.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: I guess, yeah, very much.
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: Also, Hey, in the NFL, we've all seen stories about
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: the star quarterback. He pays money to the lineman. Yeah,
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: but he buys them extra, unbelievable gifts. He buys their
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: wives or girlfriends or others gifts as far as that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: Because thank you for protecting me for sure. Thank you
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: to backup left tackle. I appreciate it. Thank you that
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: you are diligent about your job. Your footwork is a superior.
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: You're not gonna have it holding penalties. Thank you for
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: my blindside. I appreciate it. So does my loved ones.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: There was actually I think it was Joe Burrow.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: There was a great story a couple last week, a
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: week ago, maybe two weeks ago, that Joe Burrow brought
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: his lineman over and he collects fossils, and he said,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: you guys can each you have the fossil, which for
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: me would be one of the coolest gifts. I imagine
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: for all them that some one we're like, why would
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I want that? But kind of neat. We got to
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: take a break. The hot lunch is coming. Gordon's gonna
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: hang out with us for the whole hour. We're gonna
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: have some fun. We haven't even gotten into the Jazz
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: or the NBA really yet. But when you have a
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: guy who's been around sports as long as Gordy has,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: you pick his brain about everything. The Sean O'Connell Show,
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• 44:25
  Speaker 1: To The Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch Hyundai Studio
• 44:29
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• 44:49
  Speaker 8: We John O'Connell show our number two, Gordy Chiaza here
• 45:05
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• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Uh, Gordy.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Before we get to the NBA All Star Game in
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: a changed format, let's talk a little Utah jazz.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: What'd you make of the performance last night?
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: Legendary masterpiece? She was alluding to right now, Bryce Censerball
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: who scored forty three points, including twenty one points in
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: the first quarter, which is a record. And Shawn, the
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: former record that Bryce broke last night was done was
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: done by a guy named Lance Stephenson, and Shawn his
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: nickname was Born Ready. Now of course it was self annointed,
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: of course it was, but Born Ready Lance Stevenson. Where
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: Lance scored twenty points in the first quarter on January fifth,
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty two. And when Bryce did, he came into
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: the game and right away in Packville quickly, and his
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: the metrics fifteen to twenty two from the field, five
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: to ten from threes, five rebounds and two assist in
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: thirty four minutes, and his forty three points for the
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: game is also, as we speak right now, the most
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: off the bench performance this year by an NBA player.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: Unfortunately, the Jazz lost in.
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: A really hard for it game one twenty eight to
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: one twenty six, and the Jazz didn't play some of
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: their guys. Again without objectively I'm trying to be objective,
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: is that if usif Knirkridge would have played Nick Vussevich.
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: We all like he had thirty five points when he
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: got those points in his rebounds, and so they missed
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: use of Nurkriche They missed him badly on the boards.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: They also didn't play uh. They also didn't play his illness.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: As far as Larry marketing, he did not perform as
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: far as playing, and it set him back some. So
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: tonight the Jazz played tonight in Dallas. Dallas lost last
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: night at home to the unbelievable Denver Nuggets, who are
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: playing shorthanded also, and now so the Jazz are going
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: to play tonight in Dallas hoop of flag showing last
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: night's sprained ankle during the game. So we'll see if
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: he plays tonight versus the Jazz. Last night, Jazz loose.
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: Hopefully they can turn around tonight and get a win tonight.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Let it be a lesson to you Dallas Mavericks. Do
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: not do not commit a flagrant foul on Bryce Sensiba
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: early in the game, or he's gonna go off for
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: forty three points. Yes, we saw that against the Bulls.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: All right, go back, they reevaluate. Ends up, the foul
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: gets upgraded like who was it ended up pulling on
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: his shoulder a little bit.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, could have been a dangerous right.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: You don't want to create that top heavy angle on
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: guys when they're airborne.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: So they upgrade it flagrant.
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: Won.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Bryce Sensiba goes off after that, So be careful what
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: you wish for with Bryce.
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: Very much, and also be careful you wish for is
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: also Kianty George who's playing tremendous. So as Bryce had
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: this outrageous first quarter, Chianti had a mesterpiece as far
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: as in the fourth quarter where he scored fifteen points,
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: including fifteen points which added to his twenty eight point
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: performance last night, eight for seventeen from the field, and
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: he had he had seven assists, and so it's a
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: it was really a really good performance. The Jazz shot
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: fifty five percent for the game and loss, so that's troubling. Well,
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: the bull shot fifty one percent and they won. Now
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: the Jazz now tonight's game quickly. As far as a
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: segue to it is that the Jazz beaten the Mavericks
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: right now twice, they're ready to share.
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: So the two and zero.
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: The Jazz played tonight in Dallas and also Saturday afternoons
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: shown again in Dallas, So they're going to be in
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: Big d for the next three days. And I don't
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: mean Dallas Cowboys either.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: There were a couple of possessions consecutively where Keyante was
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: just you've kind of playing hero ball early in the game. Now, look,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: he's been incredible. I'm not trying to pile on a
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: guy who obviously is really having a sort of I
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: don't know if you'd call it a ranas, but it's
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: a breakout year at least. How do you coach a
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: guy who's been hot wants to stay hot when he's
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: he's given you a couple of kind of really bad
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: possessions in a very very winnable game. You don't want
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: to smash his confidence, I imagine, but you also I
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: mean there were three trips down the floor where as
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: soon as the ball touched it touched his hands, he
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: was a ball stopper. He was just like, I'm keeping
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: this and he was giving up. You know, he's putting
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: up these off balance shots and things like that. It
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: has been uncharacteristic and all of them were missed and
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: they were rebounds for the bulls the other ways. It's
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: a little microcosm. But how do you snap somebody out
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: of that, or how do you coach him out of that?
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: Well, at the moments I split second where you want
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: to be with ball confidence, but also you want to
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: have shared the ball. So what you do that is
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: that during the time out you would say to him,
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: we want you to be aggressive, but first move the
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: ball first. So instead of coming down and have no
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: one else touching the ball and you're going one on one,
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: we always tell the players, let's go organize one on
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: one where the ball swunk to you in space and
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: that's a great time. The defenses is sliding over the
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: lake getting there as far as in coverage, as far
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: as health defense, and you have a much easier chance
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: to get to the top of the basket. So you try
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: to get to his senses and calm him down. Usually speaking,
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: most young players showing play offense too fast and defense
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: too slow. So at that moment you're alluding to he's
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: playing offense way way too fast. Even though you love
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: his confidence and he did deliver a later run in
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: the game, you want him to play bit more unmeasured
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: at that time.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Talking NBA with Gordy Chiza here on ESPN seven hundred
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: and ninety two one FM.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: We've got Warriors Nicks on the station.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: Tonight.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Coverage starts at seven point thirty. Tip off is at
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: eight o'clock. Right here on ESPN seven hundred and ninety
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: two one FM. Jonathan Kaminga has demanded a trade from
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: the Warriors, So we talked about that all offseason, Gordy,
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: what's gonna happen there? Are they going to fight the right?
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: I guess agreement? And that's gone sour.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: Yes, it has very much. They try to have it
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: work out and it is not so Jonathan Kaminga, who's
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: really a major young talent. Remember they drafted him, and
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: so usually speaking, when you draft somebody, you don't want
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: to trade them. This is his fifth season in in
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: the NBA and he was picking number seven back in
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty one, and this just shows you that it
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: has not worked out. So between now and the trading deadline,
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: which is Thursday, February fifth, they're going to trade him.
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: The problem is going to be they're not gonna get
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: equal value for him, and so the Warriors are going
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: to make a value judgment where addition by subtraction and
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: his new team will embrace him with open arms. As
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: far as this guy that has talent and usually speaking,
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: we need more scoring for lesser teams, and that's what
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: he's gone for them. So it has not worked out.
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: They're going to try to move him, and I'm sure
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: it's going to be in a process right now, who do.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: You think are the biggest players in the Jonathan kaminga market.
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: Bulls.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: Bulls could go after him as far as trying to
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: get him any the Magic could try to get him
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: also as far as try that the Bucks also will
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: be a major player as far as the Bucks right
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: out over underachieving right now to seventeen to twenty three.
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: So they're gonna, they're gonna they're going to move players around,
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: and it's very possible that you know, Kyle Kuza could
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: be in play also, so it's possible you can make
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: a narrative with other players involved also kaminga for Kyle Kuzma. Interesting,
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: you could it's possible as far as the numbers working
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: out with other players involved.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: You know, for Kusa, i'd like to see that.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: I'd like to see him end up in the Bay
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: Area playing with that that Warriors team, if they could
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: make that work.
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: And the trading deadline, remember you need partners to trade,
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: so sometimes it might be a three way trade. Now
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: usually speak now there's always an outlier, but everyone's talking
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: all thirty teams, but only basically ten to twelve teams
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: are actively trying to trade in the offseason. The week
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: of the NBA Draft, everybody's trying to trade assets to
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: move up in the draft. And so right now some
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: of these teams are really will make trades and were
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: so the first trade is ready with the Trey Young
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: being traded from the Atlanta Hawks to the Washington Wizards
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: and sees A McCollum and Corey Kesper going from the
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: Wizards to the Atlanta Hawks.
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: That's just the beginning.
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: What about Jazz basketball and he trades, I would say
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: it's possible where the Jazz he's not played this year yet,
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: but he's shooting before games that it's possible George and Nyang,
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: who's a good shooter, has value, could be traded as
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: far as an Ascid maybe a second round pick to
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: someone else.
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: As far as Nathan dingan shooter.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: We just got the minivan back and then we could
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: send him out again.
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: That's soundn't like that, but it's possible. He's all different
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: things that teams are going to try to train for
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: a new model as far as the minivan. But Jeorge
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: ni Yang there's always value. You can never have enough
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: shooting as far as even off the bench because Silma
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: gets injured. So someone like Jeorge Niang on a playoff
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: type team, Sean, if he makes back to back three
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: point shots in game two of a playoff, here hearing
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: his whole Sally hearing those, there's two possessions literally, the
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: events in the playoffs.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: I could see it.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about this changed NBA All Star format.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: We've discussed it.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: When they announced that, hey, we're gonna try to capture
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: some of this four Nations magic that we saw from
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: the NHL All Star break last year.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: Everybody, I mean.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: People watch that more than they watched the NHL regular season,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: second only to the Stanley Cup Finals in terms of
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: the ratings there, and I applaud the NBA's flexibility and
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: willingness to keep try and keep there. They're all Star
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: our weekend interesting and relevant, and so they've adopted the
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: same format. But it's it's kind of interesting because basketball
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: from a heritage standpoint has been very much an American thing.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: The NBA especially has been an American sport. That is,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: gradually we've seen more international influx, and I think that
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: this format, Gordy, might set us up for a situation
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: where we're like man in the NBA specifically, the international
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: talent has now taken over.
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: That's an understatement. So Showan's talking about right now. He's
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: quickly is that today ended the voting by the fans,
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: all right, So the conference start is voted by the
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: fans of fifty percent of the voting, twenty five percent
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: by current NBA players, and twenty five percent by NBA
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: accredited media. To the words, those three groups vote for
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: the starters, and then the seven reserves are voted by
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: the NBA head coaches. This year, it's going to be
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: in the into a Dome in Englewood, California, home of
• 56:03
  Speaker 7: the LA Clippers is on Sunday, February fifteenth. The broadcast
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: partners are NBC and Peacock Streaming. So if you're if
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: you if you have stock in NBC. Sean O'Connell is
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: that NBC is doing the All Star Game. They're doing
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: they're doing the Olympics in Italy if for as far
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: as Winter Olympics, and most of all they're doing right
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: now also the Super Bowl, so they're having a batter
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: year as far as they're programming.
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: With that said, here should be the starters. This is
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: me just talking. Should be the starters. We'll just go
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: over the starters quickly, not the reserves. Then we'll talk
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: about the world the World team. The Stars of East
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: should be Kate Cunningham, Terse Maxi, Jalen Brown, Giannis and
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: Jail and Jalen Brunson. And for the first time it's
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: not based on position, so that's good. So there's not
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: yet to have no centers. It's gonna be the five
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: best player as far as the starters, and then the
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: West starters should be Cha Jos, Alexander Luka, Dantage, Nikolai Jokic,
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: Anthony Edwards and Victor Wenbijamba. That should be the starters.
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: Now he's gonna be the World for the first time.
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: They're having a round robin tournament where they're gonna be
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: three teams each team West Team and the World Team.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: And so before this there's only twenty four players, twelve
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: in the East, twelve in the West, but Adam Silva
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: recently said that he might add some players to make
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: it twenty five and twenty six as far as total
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: all Stars. So with that said, it could be the
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: World Team All Stars and his round robin tournament, which
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: would be three teams of twelve games twelve minutes, twelve
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: of twelve minutes of each of each format. As far
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: as the NBA game, here we are Canada schedules. Alexander
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: and Jamal Murray from Canadian from France, Victor Wenbiamba from Slovenia,
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: Luca Dantage from Greece, Giannis from Turkey, Alpha rn Chagoon
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: from Serbia, Nikolai Jokic from Israel, Denny Avdya from Finland,
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: Larry Markining and from Cameroon Bascal Siakam. So that is
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: some crewe as far as for the World Team, and
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: let's get back for one second about Larry Marketing.
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: He should make it.
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: Should he should be voted by the NBA coaches to
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: be reserved.
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: He shouldn't.
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: If not, then Adam Silver mentioned four has the right
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: to add one or two players. And I'm assuming that
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: it's gonna be either, it's gonna be if not both,
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: either or Larry Marketing or Danny Avidya, who's having a
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: great year for the Portland Trailblazers.
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: He's been tremendous. As far as him performing this.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: Year, how far away is Caante George from being an
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: NBA All Star the way he's playing.
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: Soon, Yes, soon, very much. Yeah, within the next two
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: to three years, that'd be right there. As far as
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: knocking on, knocking on, as far as him making him
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: making the All Star team because he has enough scoring
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: ability and as far as talent, so see Jamal Murray,
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: we all love him. This is his first time. Jamal
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: Murray should make the All Star Team as a reserve.
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: So as great as he was, he's never made the
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: All Star team.
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: That's how hard.
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: It's not a question of he's not an All Star
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: type caliber. There's just so many guys that are ultra
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: talented and there's just a few spots.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: So example, C J.
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: McCollums showing his average twenty points a game for the
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: last nine years, never been an All Star. That's how
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: hard it is to make the team.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Kiante George, this is a press release from the Jazz
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: that just came across the desk here. Keyante George is
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: going to be honored by his old high school, Louisville
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: High School, which I suppose it kind of depends on
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: the relationship you have with your early days and your
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: neighborhood and all that kind of thing.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: For me, I peaked in high school where were we Nothing.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Cooler than to have my old high school be like, hey,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: we're hanging your jersey and the rafters or whatever, just
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: honoring you. I don't know how it's gonna affect Kiante George.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: And he's only been out of high school for like,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know, six years, so it's a little bit
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: different for him.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: But that's kind of a cool little honor.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: Oh very much, absolutely, because that's your neighborhood, that's you
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: grew up and these are the loved ones that helped
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: you become an NBA player, whether it's your coach, or
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: whether it's your teammates in high school, and so it's
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: a big thing. And then Sewan even better than that,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: Sewan you could wear your lettuce sweater. Yes, yes, you
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: know the let sweated. For the young listeners right now,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: is that that of a badge of honor is when
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: you able to go to school and you get a
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: letter sweater and these different stripes on your sweater based
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: on if your varsity for how many years? And it
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: sounds so trivial, but when you're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: old and usually you you have pimples in your face,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: that's a big, big thing as far as having that.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: It was the coolest thing, right And I was born
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: in the wrong era because I don't it was probably
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: not even cool to care so much about your letterman
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: jacket by the time I made it to high school.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: But man making varsity as a sophomore and be ineligible
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: for that varsity letter when you're a you know, no,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: there was only one other two other guys in the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: grade that were varsity in football, and so we were
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: the only ones who could get the letterman jackets. I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: was like, I thought I was the king of the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: world and then what happens you graduate? You never get
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: to wear it again. I want a reason to wear
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: it again. Why am I just wear it under the student?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: Absolutely sure, and bring it in, bring it in. I
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 7: want to see you a letterman jacket. I want to
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 7: see if you could be flexing with it.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I mean beautiful if beautiful gray leather sleeves. It's this
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: nice dark maroon for dear old Jordan High. I mean,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: it's a beautiful piece of wardrobe and it's just been
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: collecting dust for twenty three years now.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: But also add to that, that's a point of your
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: life in all players life for Kanty George, where again,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: there's so much of your formative years as far as
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: being an athlete, and that you're able to excel at
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: that level and that the people remember you where you were,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: and hopefully that you remember the people and be thankful.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: And I'm sure he will be thankful of your coaches
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: and the principal and administrators there that helped you. And Seowan,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: you know right now, the most important person though, Sean.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: Usually speaking of a building in high school, you know
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: it is Sean. It's the janitor, the custodian, because that
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: guy knows everything what goes on in the building. He
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: knows more than usually the vice principal and the principal.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: And then Sewing, especially in its cold weather, that the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 7: janitor determines whether in basketball practice you're practicing with heat
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: in the building as far as on the court or
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: no heat. So Sewan, when I was in my younger day,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: shown I was a college coach, I used to give
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: the guy, the janitor on average, will say four bottles
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: a year of Cuddy Shark to make sure that on Saturday,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: on our weekends, Satio Sunday, that the heat was on
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 7: the gym, no matter what happens, at least two hours
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 7: before we started practicing. Sean on average four times a year.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 7: Cuddy Shark gladly love it.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Let it be a less of all you folks out there,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: just to you know, give a shout out, maybe a
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: little gift or something to your high school janitor. They
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: keep things running. There's been a conversation this week about
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: the Memphis Grizzlies entertaining trade offers for John Morant, who's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: obviously he's the biggest star on that team, and he's
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: been one of the embattled stars recently in the NBA.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: We facetiously were joking about send a guy like that
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: to a place like Salt Lake City where you can't
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: find the sort of trouble that he's finding himself in.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: But realistically, what are the teams that might be in
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: the market for a star like John Moran.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 7: He's a star, but he's also he's troubled. Here's his contract,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 7: so you've got to find a team that's gonna move
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 7: a lot of assets to try to get him. So
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: here's his contract this year thirty nine point four million,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 7: twenty six, twenty seven forty two point one million, and
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: twenty seven, twenty eight forty four point eight million. And
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: so I'm not saying that it's impossible to trade, but
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 7: it's it's unlikely right now as far between now and
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: February fifth, there'll be more people that will be off
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: the books come July first. It could be it could
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: you could trade him the right before the draft and
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: then announce it after July one of this year, where
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: you get more, you get more bang for your buck.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 7: So it's possible, but it's unlikely because of that because
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: of the numbers right now. It's like Anthony Davis also
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: the exact same thing. Remember, a lot of times the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: agents are talking, but the teams aren't see a lot
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: of it. So example, Rich Paulson recently of Clutch Sports,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: which represents besides Lebron, James, Anthony Davis and many many
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 7: other star players, he wants to be traded. That sounds
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: great in theory. But if i'm if I'm the Dallas Mavericks,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: they're gonna do what's best for them because now Cooper
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: Flagg is the is the the biggest star for them
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: as far as they're going through, And so they're not
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: gonna get You don't have to trade Anthony Davis right now,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 7: you do not, And so they're gonna try to wait
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: and see you get the best deal for them.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: What's the reaction in the locker room when somebody like
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Rich Paul colors outside the lines a little bit and says, hey,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: we should trade Austin Reeves for so and so or whatever.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: And now you've got a.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Situation where Reeves is looking at Bron and be like,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: your best friend and agent is trying to get me
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: traded out of here, man, Like, how does the locker
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: room handle that?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 7: The answer is, it's a very very trippy about it
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 7: as far as Lebron's quota is saying that I don't
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: my agent represents his own interests, not mine. As far
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 7: as this situation and that Austin reaves we're teammates right now,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 7: and Austin reads also guess what is a really a
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: talented player? And so how you handle it is that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: you go to that player and explain to him and
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: hopefully with sincerity and be truthfulness. Is that that's my
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 7: agent talking, that's not me. And so that's why it's
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 7: so important to have it with with each other, an
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: individual relationship that's based on a word called trust. That
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 7: when you break trust in a team sport, it's hard
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 7: to bring it back. And trust is everything besides talent,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: and that's what we call this to be successful, Sean,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 7: we called the three tease, trust, talent, and technique and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 7: all three are equal as far as.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: In the team setting.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: What's the list today, Gordon?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: My list today?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: We can never get enough of fifty Wen Beyonba All right,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: So the Jazz play the Spurs on Monday, Doctor Luther
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 7: King of Celebration Day in San Antonio. This list today
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: is the all time best retired or present French NBA players,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: So French NBA players, it's the top ten. But show
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: before I give you a list. Right now, I just
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 7: want to give you. I want to test you knowledge
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 7: of France. Oh okay, all right, Sean. What is the
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: capital of France?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Paris?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: Correct? What's Paris's name as far as nickname.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: The city of lights?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: That is correct, Sean? Name for me.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: Three out of the four French breads that then and
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: French people eat three it is.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: For okay, croissant correct, baguette correct, you're making us.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: Up bread with chocolate. It's okay, croissants with the chocolate.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: We'll give it.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: Well, what were the other two for you?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 6: Crepes?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, crapes?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: And then like really really thin pancakes. Yeah.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: And then also James's favorite it's not really it's not
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: a bread, but it's also a dish right now is
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: ache and also so fla.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: I'm a big guy. I love a goodie and.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 7: Sean, I'm impressed with Sean. And also add to this,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 7: I know my job in society right now, Sean, to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 7: try to help you come more enlightened like that, that's.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: My job in society. I appreciate you get about coaching.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: Fair about that? Okay, Sean?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 7: Remember the French Alps, yes, yes, And remember you love
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 7: French cooking.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah I do. I'm a big fan of most types
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: of cuisine.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: Okay, So here we go.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 7: So Sean has passed our annual test about French pastry
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: and cooking. There's our list right now, the ten all
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 7: time best French players, either retired or president. Number ten
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: he played the Gonzaga Ronnie Tarrioff. He retired in two
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 7: enty and fifteen. Had a ten year NBA Korea. Number nine.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: He plays in the NBA right now for the Washington Wizards.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: He's a future All Star. He's an ultra talented. His
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: third year Bela Colabali, who's very very good. Number eight
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 7: nickname was Air France Michael Patrice. He played in the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 7: NBA for eleven years. He retired back in twenty thirteen.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 7: Number seven Boris Diao retired in twenty seventeen. Fourteen year
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: NBA Korea Number five Evan Fournier retired back in twenty
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 7: twenty four. Just recently, he had an outstanding twelve year
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 7: NBA Korea number five, two time champion for the Florida
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 7: Gators as an undergraduate He retired back in twenty twenty
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 7: with a thirteen year NBA creem. He was a two
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 7: time All Star and in twenty fourteen he was voted
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 7: Defensive Player of the Year. Yes, Your King, Noah. Number four.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: He plays for the Clippers right now. All time best
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: Frenchman Nick patun Is. Eighteenth season in the NBA. Number three,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: former jazz Man. Tremendous player heading to the future Hall
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 7: of Fame as far as an NBA basketball Rudy Gobert,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 7: four time Defensive Player of the Year back in twenty eighteen,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 7: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one and twenty twenty four. The
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: second greatest NBA Frenchman player. He plays with the San
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: Antonio Spurs right now. Victor Wenbiyama. He's only eight twenty
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 7: one again, future NBA Hall of Famer, generational talent. Before
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: he retires, he'll be the MVP of the league. He'll
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 7: be first team All NBA, He'll be Defensive Player of
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 7: the Year and also in his world leading the Spurs
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 7: to many many NBA championships. The number one ever great Frenchman.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: We all love him. Hall of Fame inductee back in
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: twenty and twenty three he won four NBA titles, He's
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: an All Star player. He played in one thousand, two
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 7: undred and fifty four Korea Games NBA Finals back in
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 7: twenty seventeen. Yes, we all know and respect him Tony Parker.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 7: Thus that's my list today of the ten greatest ever
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: Frenchmen that have been in the NBA or playing in
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: the NBA as we speak.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: Fun fact, Tony Parker big fight fan. Yes, we've done
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: a few events over in France. Tony Parker's been to
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: a couple of them. Always very gracious with his time.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: And also add to that, Tony Parker was picked number
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: twenty eight in the draft. And Sean, did you realize
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: that I walked him out twice before the draft? Yeah,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: oh absolutely, and he wanted to come state side right away,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 7: and at that time, unfortunately there was decision made by
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: ownership that we didn't want to go over the salary cap,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 7: so we didn't draft Tony Parker. Suit and the drafted
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 7: Lopez and uh, he was the marginal player, and so
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 7: I worked him out, showing him and my and hey
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: day with Jazz basketball. I worked out only two players
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: twice before the draft, twice usually twenty one time and
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: both guys had worked out twice. We didn't draft. We
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 7: eventually got one. One was Tony Parker and one was
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 7: Corlis Boozer. Wow, that's it. So every team showing has
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 7: these stories like this. By the way, Tom Brady was
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 7: a six round draft. Yeah, and brock Party, mister irrelevant
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: brock Party.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah. So it's it's it's old.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: Now we're relying on him to get us past the
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: Seahawks this weekend with nothing in support.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: Sean's speaking to Seahawks, who do you like?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm a Niners guy, so I gotta say, even
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: even when my head tells me it's an unlikely outcome,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: I gotta say, Niners Bang Bang, Niner Gang.
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  Speaker 6: All right, how about Bronco Gang.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, I I'm gonna give a shout out
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: to all my friends who are Bronco fans. I think
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: that they get past this one. You know, they earned
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: their right for the first round by.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: I think that. I think they're gonna pull it off.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: I think that Bo Nixon company the fighting Garrett Bowles
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: is And by the way, no NFL roster has more
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: former youths. Yeah, So because of that, I'm gonna say
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: the Broncos get it done.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: Texans at New England.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: I still don't believe in the Texans. Not it's weird
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: because it's not this group of guys. It is the
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: franchise right in New England and their coach, Mike Rabel,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: he knows how to get past this, he knows how
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: to win in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: He knows what he's doing.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 7: So I gotta go Patriots, and their quarterback is steady,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 7: very good. And the last one La Rams at the Bears,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 7: and we know the Bears. They're at the skin of
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: their teeth.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's their style, you know, partially because our
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: next guest who's joining us in half an hour, won
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl with the Rams. But I often defer
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: to guys like our friend Eric Weddle when he's talking
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: about who's ready, who's built for it, and who's not.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: The Bears feel like a team on the rise that
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: might be another year or two away. The Rams are
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: the opposite end of that spectrum. They've got another year
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: or two before they've got to turn the page for
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Matt Stafford, and who knows what happens after that. So
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: I think that the Rams get this one done. I
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: don't think it's particularly close, honestly. If so, I think
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: it'll be the weather that factors in pretty aggressively.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: But I think the Rams have this one all the way, and.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: The weather is so important.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 7: And also so think about showing you're talking about his quarterback.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 7: There's no other position in sports that's more important than
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 7: the quarterback, nothing in the team sport. So if your
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: quarterback is really good and he's seasoned and he's a
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 7: great leader, the chances of winning go dramatically, and every
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: team is trying to get the right quarterback. And in
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: basketball it's that Usually it's that it's that not point guard,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 7: but it's someone that you could be a big guy
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 7: but have point guard skills. They just described right now
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 7: Nikolai Jokic of the Denver Nuggets, who are overachieving. And
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: so there's nothing like there's nothing regular about the playoffs
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 7: shown whether it's the NBA or whether it's the NFL,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: is so exciting and that's how players make their career
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 7: by advancing in the playoffs.
• 1:15:43
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  Speaker 3: Maybe the biggest story today that it does affect someone
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: with local ties. John Harbaugh will be the next New
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: York Giants head coach. If you're Jackson Dark, you couldn't
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: have asked for a better situation. An established Super Bowl
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: caliber coach a man who comes from a winning culture,
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  Speaker 3: a man who is universally respected in the National Football League,
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  Speaker 3: a guy who's gonna help you with all the things
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: that you need to get better at, like, you know,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: extending your career by not taking unnecessary risks. John Harbaugh
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: is the exact right guy to be like, hey, dude,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: here's the thing. Just slide and everything else is gonna
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: be okay. He's the perfect head coach because he's tenured
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: enough that you have to listen to what he says.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: His reputation really preceeds it himself. And what a what
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: a coup for the Giants to get a Ravens cast off.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: And if you did not we if you do not
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: hear the Steve Bishatti is the Ravens owner and he
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: did a pretty candid press conference the other day where
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: he taught, you know, just kind of the need to
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: move on. And you can't really hate the way that
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: his thinking went. Even if you thought John Harbaugh was
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: a coach you would want to keep around for longer,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: which it didn't feel like that was going to happen
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: even if they made the playoffs. In fact, Steve Bashatti
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: was asked if Tyler Loop makes that kick?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: How long? How much longer is Jim Harbaugh? John?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: Is John Harbaugh your head coach? And his answer was
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: another week. He said it this flat out another week.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: He had already made the decision that it was time
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: to move on from John Harbaugh.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: He owns a team, he gets to do it.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: He also was really cool about his transparency when he
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: was asked, Hey, Lamar Jackson is the most important player
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: in this franchise. He's one of the most important players
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: in the league. Is he going to help you hire
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: the next coach? This is the owner, Okay, it's his team.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: He said.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: He will have influence but no power, which is the
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: correct answer. You can't let the players make those types
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: of decisions we've saw, we've seen in college sports when
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: you let player personnel have too much control. If you
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: let the players have too much influence, right, what happens
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: is you hire a coach specifically to be the guy,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: to retain the guy whatever, and then if it doesn't
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: work out, the guy wants to leave anyway, and now
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: you've hired a coach you didn't want just because he
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: wants them. So, I don't know if you have time
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: to go check out those those soundbites, I thought they
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: were really interesting. John Harbaugh to the Giants, I have
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: found a new thing associated with the Australian Open. Yes,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: the professional tennis tournament that James is going to be
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: our my new favorite thing moving forward. Really the one
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: point bracket.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: Have you seen this? Have you heard about this?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: I have not. I looked it up after I saw
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: it on the rundown. Though incredible. So it's so hard
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six to be introducing new sports properties
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: that people can get behind, that people can be enthusiastic about.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: That's why the four nations format for the NHL All
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: Star Break was such a breath of fresh air. It
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: was so fascinating, so cool to see something that is
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: entirely novel be introduced and have it be embraced the
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: way that it was. Well, the Assie Open has been
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: doing this and I'm late to the party finding out
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: It is the pro tennis tournament.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: It is the big time players, it is the Yannick Sinners,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: it is the Alcarez, it is the the biggest players
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: in the world right and they put them into a
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: tournament bracket with some amateurs, with some celebrities with some dignitaries.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: That are just kind of attacked, sponsors whatever.
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  Speaker 3: To the Australian Open, and there's a million dollar prize,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: and it is a full bracket, and they play a
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: tennis tournament against one another. But it is one point.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: You win one point, so fifteen points, no, it is.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: It is one service. If you're a pro, if you're
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: one of the pros in the tournament, play.
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  Speaker 4: In the fifteen. Oh that's one point.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: You you have one serve, right, you can't even fault.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: If you're an amateur or a celebrity or somebody else
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: that's been invited to the tournament, you can. You can
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: fault the first serve and then get it over in
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: the second serve.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: But you played, you play to one, you play to fifteen.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: Like you said, you play one point, and then if
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: you win, you advance.
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  Speaker 4: If you lose, you're done. It's it. It's over. I
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: beat I beat.
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  Speaker 5: Carlos Akarez by fifteen points one time. Well, the beauty
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: of it is that an amateur just won the million
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: dollar prize. It's it's just so you just can win
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: the million two.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: Yes they can, and it's encouraged.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: Apparently it's customary for the pros that will like donate
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: it to a charitable cause, donated to the runner up.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: But that's what they should do.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're if you're an amateur and you could win,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's like you have to just get.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: Lucky and win.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: Nine points or something like that, then you find your
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: way to a million dollar prize, a million dollar Australian
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: which is about six hundred and seventy thousand US.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: But that's still awesome.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: Wow, really poor country over there.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: It is like, you know, we talk about NCAA March
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: madness and it's just there's no March. This is the
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: the smallest margin for eric and it's kind of like
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: a par three years.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: You know, it's just mostly for fun. But how cool
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: is that?
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: I mean the par three those players get to get
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: a nice cash prize too. I don't know if it's
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: if it's that much, it might be more even, but
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: uh yeah, I love this. They should Wimbledon should adopt this.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: Although Wimbledon would be very hoity toity and be like
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: we are blue amateurs playing with pros at the All
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: England Club.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: It would be amazing, especially we're above Why do I
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: keep saying below, especially if they did the same thing
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: where you can kind of like sweepstakes your way into
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: playing on the grass courts at Wimbledon, or like pay.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: Your way in. Hey, anybody, anybody in the area can
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: play it. Just it costs this much to buy in
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: or whatever. Maybe I don't know the one point slam.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: An amateur beat Yanick Center and gets the million dollars.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: That's so cool that, like imagine that story. Yeah, I
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: beat Yonic Center in tennis. No you didn't.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: You don't have to tell them there's only a one
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: point game.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: Well, the beauty of this thing is is you can
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: really you can really kind of dance your way around
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: the facts without lying.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: Here when the Australian Open, like I.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: Beat Janick Center at the Australian Open, people like, come on,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: yeah in the tournament, Yes, in the tournament at the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: Australian Open, I beat Janick Center.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: I didn't.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: I didn't win the Australia. You don't say I didn't.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: I didn't beat him in the Australian Open. He was
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: at the Australia. Oh so I guess you're some millionaire
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: tennis player. That's exactly right. I am well six hundred thousand.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: No, we're talking Australian dollars. This is in Australia. This
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: guy's he's in that's rot.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: I am mate, like he's able to say it, to
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: tell the truth.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 9: I co.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: I beat Yanick Sinna. Then we had Shrimp on the Bobby.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: He lost in the Australian Open qualifying but went through
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: the one point slam bracket. We beat Alexander Zevrev, Nick Kourgios,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: Maria Sakari, Vick and uh oh Sakari eliminated Carlos al
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: Karez and then he beats Yanick Cinner.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: It's car is the is the the rando amateur that
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: won it all?
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, Jordan Smith is the.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: Random Jordan Smith.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bria Sakari is a professional female.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: My bad. I apologize. I might be saying that.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: You you did very good with the curios and who's
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: the other one? How'd you say? Zverev? Who knows? Put
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: some more vowels in the name? Please, it's amazing. It
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: was in the third round he beats you Onick Center.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: Smith serves Smith. By the way, Smith hits it right back.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: Smith serves Center, hits it right back into the net.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: You stink you lost to Jorden Smith. That's amazing. Congrats
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: to the Smith and all of the Smith's family.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: Francis Tiaffo was in the tournament in the in the
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: brackets against Egos Fiatek and he just again the pros
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: don't get a second serve if they fall.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: Oh so he he just over.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: The back line, serves it long and everyone just laughs
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: at the pros when they screw up. That's apparently how
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: this tournament goes.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: What a glorious event.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: I want to attend this and then I'll just fly
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: back home. I don't even need to go to the
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: actual Australian Open. I just want to watch this one
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: point tournament, no patience. It's like seven's rugby versus fifteen's rugby.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: The games are just so short, you're like, okay, that
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: was fun.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: Bye.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: I don't want to sit through the whole day. This
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: is They need to figure.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: This out for cricket, Yes, a microwave version of cricket
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: that everyone could get on board.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: With one swing cricket game.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: I love this idea.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: How about just how about for cricket the short version
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: you just have two people run back and forth between
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: the bases until one of them drops dead.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: No, because then you'd end up getting like some marathon
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: runner that's just able to do it for days. You
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: have one of those ultra marathon ers that runs a
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: one hundred mile race like you. Actually somehow made this
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: longer than cricket, somehow extended cricket, James, terrible idea.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, but it's it's okay. Here's how you.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: It's just a random drawing from the fans in the stadium,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: So it can't be some guy who trained for it.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: I mean it could be if they randomly are there.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: Oh when did Fred Warner injure his ankle? James, do
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: you remember what week? Seems like it was week five
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: or six.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: Well, his practice his return to practice window opened yesterday
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: for the San Francisco forty nine ers, and Fred is
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: not ruling out the possibility that he could play on
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: Saturday against the seatle excuse me, against the Seattle.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: Seahawks on a short week for the Niners. Even on
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: a short week for the Niners. For Fred Warner, he's
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: been out since like week five.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: I thought it was a.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: Fractured and dislocated ankle. It was a catastrophic, nasty injury.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: Season ending is how they characterize it, right, well, and
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: it ended his regular season right. The playoffs is not
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: does not count as towards season ending injuries. That's incredible.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: I hope that he can pull it off. Not just
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: because I prefer the Niners of the Seahawks, and and
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: because you're my boss in these three hours, and so
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: now I have to make sure you're happy, right, but
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: also and not just because of the local angle, but
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: just because that's an incredible story, Like, I hope we
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: see a guy do that and play well and be
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: a difference in winning the game. Let's go Fred Warner.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: It would be ninety nine days from when he broke
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: and dislocated his ankle to actually playing another NFL game,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: and they have to get through. He says he's gonna
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: do it based on the science. It's not just gonna
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: be a feeling thing. He's got the entire weight of
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: the forty nine ers in the NFL medical machine kind
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: of focused on this ankle and making sure he doesn't
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: do something that would damage his long term career.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: But there is a possibility.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, I was watching the practice tape from yesterday,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: and he does not appear to be hampered in any way.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: There's like not a slight limp. Now I get it.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: There's a difference between being able to propel your own
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: body and being able to carry the loads of impact
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: and stopping blockers and things like that. So they're gonna
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: have to get through all of it. He's gonna have
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: to check a lot of these boxes. There's like nine
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: different things he's got to prove to them he can do.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: But Fred Warner is willing to entertain the possibility of
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: coming back and helping his team in the effort of
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: beating the Seattle Seahawks. It would be just as easy
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: for him to be like guys season ending. If the
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: season were three weeks longer, maybe I could come back.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: But we're talking ninety four days after he It used
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: to be an amputation injury, right, Like, this is just
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: a horrific thing, and we do that?
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: Should we?
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: What what would they do play the let's make a
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 5: new game. How they would have treated this guy's injury
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: in eighteen fifty if.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: This had happened in nineteen twenty six, and how would
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: they have treated this injury?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: How often then, and we keep track of how often
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: the it's just the amputation putation.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: And how often it's doing something stupid like they would
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: have put leeches on it. Blood letting would have been
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: the solution to his Grade three concussion.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: There's if anyone eight seven seven three five three zero
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: seven hundred, if you know anyone who is that big
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: a nerd about that sort of thing, and give us
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: a call week we'll start. We're gonna get a little well, actually, eh,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: you know you'd be surprised, but there was a full
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: orthopedic surgery's happening back in nineteen twenty six, and they
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: would have prepared this thing, and Fred Warner would have
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: back on the field and forded ninety four, Yeah, exactly
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: five years after the accident, old peg leg.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: Fred Warner would have been just.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: Fine, Oh, this is this is incredible.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: What's okay?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: Oh see, let's say he doesn't end up checking every
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: box and he just misses a chance to play in
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: this week's game, and then the Niners just find a
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: way to somehow beat the Seahawks, uh, you know, defying
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: all the odds again. Fred Warner in the conference in
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: the NFC Championship game, back for the NFC Championship game,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: or hey, they somehow make it to the Super Bowl without.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: Him back for the Super Bowl. Be incredible, right now,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: it would be amazing. It'd be a great story. The
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: heroics of Fred Warner would go down in forty nine ers. Lord, wonderful, right,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: it'd be cool. I love seeing these freak injury recovery
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: stories in the NFL, and you will never, ever, ever
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: be able to convince me it's all done completely above board,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: even with Fred Warner, who, of course, as a San
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine er, in my mind, is above reproach.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: But these guys have access to miracle drugs and I
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: hope they're taking them in order to get back on
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: the field to beat the Seahawks. As of right now,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: there is no Fred Warner availability. He's practicing. He's in
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: his open practice window, return to action window, they call
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: him right now. The penciled in starters for the San
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine ers at the inside linebacker positions are
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks, who is a veteran and awesome, great, great,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: great player.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: I love Kendricks.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: I'm glad the forty nine ers were able to kind
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: of put that good of a band aid on the
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: issue with Fred Warner going down, de Winters injured. It's
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: Kendricks and a guy named Garrett Wallow. You don't know
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: what school he went to. You don't know how long
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: he's been in the NFL. You don't know anything about
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: this guy.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: All right, unknown university. He actually went to TCU.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: He was a twenty twenty one round five pick for
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. His career totals are fifty one total tackles,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: twenty eight solo, twenty three assisted. He does have one
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: sack and one pass defended. All right, put some respect
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: on his name. One more sack than you have in
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: the NFL. That's exactly right. The man who could be
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: starting against the Seahawks has one more sack in his
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: career than I have and I have in my whole
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: football career.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: Oh see, so obviously I'm being facetious.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: Hit good for you, Garrett Walla, Like sometimes all you
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: need is an opportunity. And absolutely, it's actually pretty impressive
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: that you're still in the rotation on the roster, You're
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: still moving around NFL circles when you're pick that far
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: down the totem pole and then you end up up,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: you know, with a good organization like the San Francisco
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: forty nine. It's not easy to hang around the league,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: as we have seen some of like some of the
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: great Utah players that were just like, oh, he's got
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: to have an amazing career. Three years they're out, two
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: years they're out, and you're just like, huh, what do
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: what happened there? Good for you, Garrett Wallall, But I
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: don't want you necessarily haven't to.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: Start against the Seahawks. Okay, it's nothing personal. Plus you
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: got it, didn't you? And uh, you have a you
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: have a bet with Jerem Jordan. I have a bet
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: cougar tail bet with Jerem Jordan. And then you've got
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: one in the building with with our guy Chad. Yeah,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: with our guy Chad, one of our sales guys, Chadders. Actually,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: you're going to see his face. Don't say that you
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: won't see his face. He you know what chance, that's
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: a nice guy. He's giving me points. Oh, that's right.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: That that's if he wins, he's got he gets it.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: If he wins, then and then we see his face,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: So we get a cut out of his face, which
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: Know why he wants that, but that's that's nothing Seahawks related.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: He just wants his face.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: He just wants a big cutout of his own face
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: in this studio. I'm bad we will not see his face,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: that's right. And if I win, he has to put
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: go Niners in his email signature.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: For a month. For a month, he sends a lot
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: of emails. That's right.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: It would be embarrassing for him exactly. And he is
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: like very very died in the wolf Seahawks fans. So
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna I'm gonna make him if that's if
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: I end up winning, I'm gonna make him send more emails.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: Just say hi to everyone.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: You know, Chad, will you email your best friend from
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: high school for me real quick? Just tell him hi.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: Just tell him I said hi. Because if if it's
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: a message from him, he doesn't have to send it.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: But if it's a message from me, he's got to
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: send it. So that's the plan. Let's go Niners. Come on,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: I want this to happen so badly. Did you see
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: the buzzer beaters in college basketball last night? Kentucky ran
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: the Christian Latner play they did.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: Mark Pulp was just like, was that Chandler who threw
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: it into that might have been our guy Colin Chandler
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: from Farmington High School threw that.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. I mean, go watch the replay. We
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: don't have that video element on the Sean O'Connell show.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: It was the exact Christian Laitner play.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: It was phenomenal. So that was sweet.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: And in the SMU game, Boopy Miller, the name's almost
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: better than the shot.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: The name is so good half court buzzer beater against
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: Virginia Tech.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: His name is Boopy Miller.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: The SMU arena is called like the Something Miller field House.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: And on the floor he's literally jumping off of his
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: own name and says, Miller, He's going up. Sky's this
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: thing from half court rattles at home win a winter
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: chicken dinner. Do you think when he makes a big shot,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: he you know what he should do? This is what
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: he should do.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: He makes a big shot like that, whoever was guarding him,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: he should tap him on the nose.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: Boopy, you got booped, Boopy? Or every time he puts
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: up a shot, he's just boopy. I mean, if your
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: name is Boopy Miller, you got him.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: Embrace The best part about it is he beat Porter
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: Larson's Virginia Tech Hokies.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, Harsh, Harsh, shout out to Porter.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he's a big Hokies basketball fan.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: I know he is a Hoky's football fan.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: The Mark Pope Kentucky season is going pretty bad, and
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: that was a very important moment for them against LSU
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: Christian Latner play. If they had a lost, they'd have
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: been ten and nine, I believe. So they've improved, I
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: guess to eleven and eight. So it's it's not like
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: things are going well right now in Kentucky. But Rick
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: Patina was like tweeting about it, congratulations. It's very strange
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: he coaches another team, but he still roots for Kentucky.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, Pope is was his player.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: So when on the national change, everyone was freaking out
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: because he refers to Kentucky as Camelot in the tweet,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: It's like, all right, relax, okay, calm down, buddy. Also,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: the symmetry or the irony with them running the Christian
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: Latner play that Christian Laytner eliminated Kentucky with that shot
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: way back in the day.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: Now, that's pretty cool.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: That's not that odd, right, It's like, uh, it's yeah,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: but like in World War Two, everyone was trying to
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: use like the same atomic weapons to destroy each other.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: We just happened to get to him first. Yeah, but
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: it's cool. It's cool like symmetry. I guess all right,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: it would have been cooler if it was in the
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: ncaaway tournament. We got to take a quick one.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: Joining us on the other side, Eric Weddle, who, of
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: course we announced yesterday is going to be part of
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: the College Football Hall of Fame class for twenty twenty six.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: We'll start the conversation there and who knows where it goes, NFL,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: college Football, all of it with the Utes Legend Eric Weddle.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: Next on The Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred and
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  Speaker 3: ninety two one FM.
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  Speaker 1: Connall Show, you were home of a besting inside.
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  Speaker 6: Of your us.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to OOC from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: of the ESPN seven hundred and ninety two to one
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  Speaker 1: A f am.
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  Speaker 2: Well, welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show, our number
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: three and joining us the Utah legend, who will now
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: be a member.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: Of the College Football Hall of Fame at least that's
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: coming up with an induction in the twenty twenty sixth class.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: You know him, you love him. He's Eric Weddle, he
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: da Welcome to the show.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 9: How are you, my brother? Man? That brought back memories
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 9: that song Dead are Alive? You know, all you deadly
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 9: catch fans out there. I was a die hard, a
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 9: die hard. I love that show and who would have
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 9: thought it still be having. I think it's on their
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 9: like sixteenth nineteenth season. It's kind of crazy. But anyways,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 9: you know, just a little back to memory lane with
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 9: that song, life is good. Hall of Fame pretty insane.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 9: Lost for words, man, pretty crazy.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: If you can put into some words for us what
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: it means to you to have your incredible college football career,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: which is twenty years ago, now recognize this way, and
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 3: to be only the fourth you to be inducted into
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: the College Football Hall of Fame.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, man, it's it's pretty. It's like a vigorous process.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 9: A lot of amazing college football players and names that
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 9: are up for each year, and just there's a lot
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 9: that goes behind the scenes to make this happen. So
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 9: do want to give a shout out to the Admin,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 9: to Rudy, to Mark, everyone that pushed for this to happen,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 9: because without them, it's it probably doesn't happen, if I'm
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 9: being honest, because there's a lot that goes into us.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 9: So I just want to give a shout out to them,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 9: and uh, really unexpected because I just you know, I
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 9: don't I don't really live for those types of things.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's a huge honor. So it was really
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 9: unexpected when Mark called me and uh tapped it, uh
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 9: Taptain Morgan on the line, so he was on the
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 9: call as well to give me the news. And I
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 9: was just really floored taking back and taking him back
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 9: to all the memories I had playing with the relationships
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 9: and the friends and the coaches and the moments and
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 9: really just grant it, you know, grateful and really humbled
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 9: by it all.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: Well, it's cool to see you go to you know,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: the right guy, a good guy. I don't know if people,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: if everyone who listens to the show follows you on
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: social media, you should be following the weddels Beard account,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: the what you told your family when you told your kids,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: uh that you were one of the I don't know
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: if you planned this one of the funniest one liners
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: I've heard was just like, I.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: Could have done it without you guys.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 5: Actually I could have you weren't there because none of
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: them were alive.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: That was the funniest thing in that whole announcement.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 9: Oh guys, like you know Sameelle Schauel randomly videos me
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 9: without without me knowing, so you can gotta you kind
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 9: of see me, catch me off guard. And then you know,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 9: my kids, I love him to death. And then when
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 9: I said it, I kind of I kind of knew
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 9: what I was implying when I said it, because the
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 9: joke was coming. But it's comical and even like I'm
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 9: telling people throughout the congratulary Terry Texas and I'm like, yeah, man,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 9: I appreciate you and the support, and they're like, yeah,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 9: well I really came along your rookie year, so I
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 9: really didn't have much impact. So it's, uh, you know,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 9: everyone had a hand in it. I really, I really
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 9: believe that, and I I think that way. Uh, and
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 9: it's just it's a you know, it's a it's a
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 9: it's a family honor. Everyone that knows me knows that, uh,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 9: we did it all together.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: So if you want me to shut up about this.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: Just tell me, But does does this change your your
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: feelings or make you even more eager or anticipate, or
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: does it have any effect at all on your ideas
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: about the NFL Hall of Fame Because obviously that gold
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Jacket is an even more rigorous process, and we've talked
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: about it plenty on my show, and I believe you
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: you deserve to be in the NFL Hall of Fame,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: and I think that you can make a strong case
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: for that consideration. I don't know as much about that process.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: If you have to have the kind of advocacy that
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: it sounds like you had from the University of Utah
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: and the people like Jeff Rudy and Mark Carleve and stuff.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: But does it do you let your mind go there
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: at all?
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 9: Myself, No, just because I don't. I don't feel like
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 9: it's warranted. I don't feel, you know, like it's hard.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 9: It's hard to it's hard to put it like. Uh,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 9: you know, you look at a guy like Harrison Smith's
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 9: probably gonna retire, and I do think he's a Hall
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 9: of Fame type guy. Now you put him in myself compared,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 9: it's comparable. And you know, it's just like it just
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 9: goes you know what what is what is the impact? Right?
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 9: Like if you if you want to talk about impact
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 9: and how to impact their teammates and scheme and coaching
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 9: and how many times that the ball was thrown in
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 9: my direction like that, there are stats that you just
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 9: can't compute when you're when you're talking about Hall of
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 9: Fame and you're talking about comparing and you're the guys
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 9: you're going against. So I just like, I'm very comfortable
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 9: with my own skin. I'm I'm very comfortable on how
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 9: I impacted the game and when I look at myself
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 9: compared to other guys, like I can honestly say in
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 9: the most humble way, there are not many guys that
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 9: could do what I did over the course of my
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 9: career across the board. But that also doesn't mean that
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 9: I should be in the Hall of Fame. So two
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 9: things can't be true.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: So you do you believe that Harrison Smith belongs in
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame?
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 9: I think he has a better case than I do.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: Do you think that John Lynch deserves to be in
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame?
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 9: Uh? Do I think he deserved? Is he not in
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 9: the Hall of.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: Correct, he's in the Hall of Fame. Do you think
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: that he has a gold jacket? Do you think that
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: is warranted and well earned?
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 9: Now, in my opinion, okay, I think is he in
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 9: the same category as a Charles Woodson, as a Rod Woodson,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 9: as a as a Champ Bailey as a as a
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 9: Brian Dawkins, as a Troy Paloma, as Ed Reed, as
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 9: a as a Ronnie Lot No, And if the if
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 9: the criteria is you need to be on that level,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 9: then no.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: Well, but that's not the criteria for being in the
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. And we both know Joe Namath is
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: He threw more interceptions than he did touchdowns as a
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: quarterback in the league.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 9: I know the game has changed, the stats has changed.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 9: We're gonna look at Troy Aikman ten twenty years from
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 9: now that people that never saw him play, never saw
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 9: him throw the ball, and how amazing quarterback he was,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 9: and they're gonna say, how the heck does this guy
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 9: in the Hall of Fame? And people still say that
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 9: now who are oblivious to the to the talent and
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 9: the quarterback us saw I get all that, and we
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 9: can we can go back and forth. But at the
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 9: end of the day, it's not up to me. It's
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 9: up to the voters, the fifty or some odd voters.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 9: And if the majority of them think it's a no
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 9: that I'm never getting in, there's nothing we can know
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 9: about it.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: The reason I use those two guys is because you
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: have more postseason honors than Harrison Smith does. You have,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: You have the pretty much the exact same postseason honors
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: as John Lynch, and you have better stats than John Lynch.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: So I mean, if we're using those two guys as
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: the as the comparables, and you're right, you probably don't
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: want to use Ronnie Lott as the comparable or Charles
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: Woodson as the comparable because nobody can can hold up
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: to that comparison.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: But I don't know.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: My guy deserves to be in, and I'm going to
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: campaign for it, whether you're willing to or not.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 9: I love you for that. That's why I heard my brother.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: All right, well, let's talk. Let's talk about you know, the.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: The closing of the transfer portal window, which happens tomorrow,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: and where where you talking?
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 9: I need, I need, I need some college coaches to
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 9: get out here and start checking out my boys.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: I imagine they're all pretty busy right now trying to figure.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 9: Out what it ultimately affects the high school kids.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: So there's there's three thousand guys, uh in the like
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: three thousand what we call Division I football guys.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: In the transfer portal.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: There's like ten thousand if you go all the way
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: down to the nai A level, which is just absurd.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: It is absolutely ridiculous.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: Across FCS Division two, Division three and nai A. There's
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: over ten thousand people in the college transfer portal, which
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how you navigate that as a coach.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we we've talked for years about how the
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: transfer portal giveth and take it away and how Utah
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: has been able to net out positively pretty much every
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: year in the transfer portal, and.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: Honestly like it doesn't.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: It seems like this year is going to be neutral
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: at best, which I'm totally okay with in Morgan Scalley's
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: first year, but knowing what we know about how you
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: construct your roster in college football and some of the
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: challenges that he might face as a first year head coach,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: you know, if it is a neutral transfer portal, outcome
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: is that going to be okay in his first year.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 9: Well, I don't. I think we've upgraded because you know,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 9: it's just it's just, you know, the timetable, the portal.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 9: There's so much things that they could do to make
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 9: it beneficial on both sides for the player to get
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 9: their money and also the school to keep continuity and
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 9: culture and team building. And then it doesn't trickle down
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 9: to the high school. Literally two weeks of high school
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 9: recruiting has been affected because the portal got pushed back
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 9: because January is a month that this universities are allowed
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 9: to come on campus and see your boys. So it's
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 9: just a it's a big, big negative in a lot
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 9: of ways. But I think you know, there's no repercussions
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 9: for tampering. Everyone's doing it, you know, like you're not
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 9: even in the portal, but then you all of a sudden,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 9: you're in the portal, and then you're gone because someone
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 9: told you you're gonna get this amount of more money.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 9: And then on the flip side, like I would, I
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 9: would say, when is what is enough enough? Right? Like
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 9: for some of the guys that left now, I know
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 9: some of them wanted to go to the portal, so
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 9: some of them, you know, we offered this and they didn't.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 9: They didn't think it was good enough, so hey, good luck.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 9: Others were offered a premium and then a week later
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 9: somehow in the portal with more When when is when
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 9: are you just not happy with where you are? And
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 9: why is money the driving force? And when it comes
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 9: down to money as a coach or as a as
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 9: a leader of a program, that if that's the number
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 9: one deciding factor in a lot of these instances, then
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 9: you need to not be a part of our program.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 9: And as being evident in some cases, some not. And
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 9: I love the way Morgan is handling it and really
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 9: trying to build around guys that want to be here.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 9: And uh, we'll see what happens at the end of
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 9: the season. But I think I think we're gonna be
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 9: better than last year across the board, uh, from from
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 9: many factors, and we'll see, we'll see if I'm right.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 9: At the end of the day.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: Eric Weddles, our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: talk at all Things college football, and we'll shift it
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: to the pros. Actually, before we shifted to the pros,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to have another conversation with you on
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: air before the National Championship game plays out, and I think,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: I know how you're going to answer this, But Indiana
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 3: or Miami.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 9: You know, I'm pulling for Miami because Miami is recruiting Gage,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 9: So that's kind of cool. You know, you get to
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 9: meet the coaches and you become a little bit more
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 9: intimate with a lot of these programs. I think Indiana
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 9: is a well oiled machine that's playing at a super
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 9: high clip. Miami presents some problems defensively that I think
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 9: that they can present a little bit more of a
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 9: challenge than Oregan did. But man, I thought the same
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 9: thing with Oregon and they just Indiana just steamrolled them.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 9: So I don't know. I'm I'm hoping for a competitive game.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 9: I worry a little bit about Miami's offense. They're just
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 9: not they run the football and then really Tony is
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 9: their only like real dynamic threat on the perimeter. So
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 9: can they shorten the game? Can they get a couple
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 9: of turnovers? Can run the football? Which I think they
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 9: can offensively with crystal ball? You know that says mindset.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 9: He wants to run the ball. And if bet if
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 9: Beck makes great decisions, and all that being said, I
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 9: think Indiana, I mean, their favorite for a reason. So
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 9: if I'm a betting man, I'm I would put my
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 9: money on Indiana.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: I'm now anti Indiana because they're not recruiting Gauge Weddles.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: That's a.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: That's a that's a piece of breaking information here on
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 5: the Kurtz Signetti knows nothing, all right, He's not the
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: coach he thought he was.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: If he can't.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 9: Recognize, if he if.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: He can't recognize that sophomore in high school talent, what
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: is he even good at?
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 9: What is he thinking? He knows nothing?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: Let's uh, let's talk about the pros.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: Fred Warner, who plays for my favorite team and your
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: favorite team, the San Francisco forty nine ers. He's ninety
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: five days removed from a break and dislocation of his
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: and he's already practicing and he has not yet ruled
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: out the possibility of playing this weekend. Now we have
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: a vague understanding of how intense the rehab process is
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: when you're an NFL guy and you got to get
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: your body right again. But give me some sense of
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: what Fred Warner has been doing between the injury, the
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: surgery and now in order to get back this quickly
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: to where he could even consider playing.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Like, I don't think people understand what is available
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 9: to NFL players working their way back from injury, especially
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 9: in season. And like if you ever had a serious
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 9: injury and you go to like rehab twice a week
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 9: and it's for an hour, and then you have to
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 9: do everything else on your own. Like literally Fred's been
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 9: in there from six am till probably six at night
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 9: and doing rehab on rehab, on rehab, so with the
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 9: best of the best available to him. And when you
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 9: get when you see guys come back and they're like
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 9: two months ahead of schedule, and it's like it's not
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 9: the average human and it's not the normal circumstances, like
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 9: he's a freak athlete. Is just the craziness of their bodies.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 9: They I think they you know, I think they heal
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 9: like at a higher clip. I mean, I'm sure it
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 9: could be proven if you do just study on it,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 9: and then the availability of the doctors and medical and
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 9: everything that's available. So my gut says, and I'm pulling
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 9: for the Niners because I want a Rams Niners NFC
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 9: championship game to relive the Glory Days and us beat
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 9: them again on the way to the super Bowl.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: You didn't have to say that, you didn't have to
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 9: Oh oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: You didn't have to You don't have to do that.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: We're on the same page, right, Let's just stay there.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 3: Let's just stay on the same page for this week.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 9: Upset City again. I didn't think. I didn't think they
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 9: had a chance against the Eagles. So it shows you
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 9: how much I know, and it shows you how bad
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 9: the Eagles are, because there's no way they should have
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 9: lost that game. But there's just something to be said
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 9: about a connected group of men who are all playing
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 9: as one and playing for each other. So it's really
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 9: cool to see the job. I think Shannon should be
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 9: the coach of the year, and so we'll see. My
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 9: gut says Fred plays in the NFC Championship game. I
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 9: don't think he'll play this week, nor do I would.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 9: I want to jeopardize it. They're they're playing good. Let's
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 9: try to give him another week of practice so he
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 9: can play in the championship game.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: How well did you get to know Mike Tomlin while
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 4: you were playing?
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 9: We play just compete against each other and then in
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 9: the Pro Bowl, one of my Pro Bowls he coached
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 9: before they got rid of whatever it is now. I mean,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 9: do people actually watch?
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: No, No, you know it's crazy. I shouldn't do this.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: We brought we broadcast on our airwaves. We broadcast the
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 5: Pro Bowl games whatever that.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine what the radio broadcast brings in from
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: an audience standpoint, because even.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 4: On television, you're just like, what is this?
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: But the Pro Bowl was fun to watch for everyone
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: out there who used to like spit on the Pro Bowl.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: The Pro Bowl is a good time, all right, And
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: I blame you all for criticizing it for so long
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: for this garbage we have now. But that's that's a
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: different topic altogether. Back to Mike Tomlin. Uh so you
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: kind of know him, you don't really know him. What
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: what do you think of him being done in Pittsburgh?
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, So he's always He's always been one I admire.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 9: I always love his his little tidbits, his comments. Every
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 9: game since I've been just coaching, I listened to him.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 9: He just has a very I love his approach to
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 9: a lot solosophically of leading men and whatnot. And honestly,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 9: when I came back. When I came back, first, when
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 9: I retired, he sent me a text, and then when
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 9: I came back, he sent me a text out of
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 9: the blue. And then obviously when I won the Super Bowl,
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 9: he said welcome to the club. And so we've He's
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 9: always been really just incredible in that aspect. Like I've
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 9: texted him out of the blue a few times and
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 9: he immediately responds back. And it's just those type of
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 9: guys are just very They're one of one. So I
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 9: don't know what his plans are. I think a coach
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 9: as a coach to his core. So is he going
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 9: to take a year off figure out what the best
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 9: spot is.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 9: But he's an incredible coach and probably even better man.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 4: The Giants and John Harbaugh. Do you like that marriage?
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 9: I love it. I felt at all the jobs, that's
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 9: probably the most appealing and I'd go after if I
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 9: was in his stance in his statue of he's not
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 9: going to be worried about the media. He's not going
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 9: to be worried about expectations.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 9: He is very confident in a leader of men, and
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 9: I would I would if this goes through, which I
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 9: think I think it is trending that way that they'll
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 9: pull a whole one eighty I think in that in
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 9: that season this first year. You know, you saw the
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 9: impact that Rabel had on the Patriots. It's just there's
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 9: very few coaches and he's one of them that can
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 9: really turn around a franchise by the way they handled
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 9: the team, how they lead, how they unite, how they motivate.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 9: And so I'm excited and you could tell he's he's
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 9: he's ready for the challenge.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to these games that are coming this weekend.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: I did not write your picks down last week because
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 3: I'd just like to pretend that you got them all
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 3: right even if you didn't.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 4: So we'll do that again here.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 9: But uh, Bronck, I got half of them wrong last week.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 9: That's all.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 4: That's all right. It's better than most people do.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: The Broncos. The Broncos are one and a half point favorites.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 3: They're taking on the Bills.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 3: The Bronco fan base is trying to get under Josh
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 3: Allen's skin by putting all the videos and pictures of
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 3: his own wife celebrating a Bronco Super Bowl from like
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 3: six years ago.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 4: But who actually wins the game.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 9: I got the Bills. Uh, it just it just kind
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 9: of seems that win last week kind of seems like
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 9: it's if it's not this year, it's never gonna happen.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 9: And so how's how is Nick's gonna handle home playoff game?
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 9: I love their defense, Like a lot, a lot wants
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 9: me to pick Denver, big, big chem Payton in big games,
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 9: like you know, he's gonna he's gonna call it great
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 9: game and put their team in the best pocision. So
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 9: I just have a feeling as Buffalo.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 5: So I'm taking Buffalo, Buffalo advancing over Denver. According to
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 5: Eric Weddle, Patriots Texans in the other game, Patriots are
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 5: the favorite here. I thought the Texans were gonna have
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 5: a stiffer test against the Chargers.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: But excuse me, I thought the Yeah, I said that right.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 3: I thought the Chargers were gonna coount better for themselves.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 3: But tell me how you think Patriots Texans go?
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 9: I got Patriots. I think I think the Texans in
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 9: a low scoring affair. Whatever the over under is, I'm
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 9: taking the under. I think it's gonna be like a
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 9: seventeen to fourteen type game. If that just to grind
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 9: it out. The Texans bes legit so, so the Patriots
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 9: gonna struggle a little bit, I think, And then I
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 9: just don't try us. The Houston offense and the way
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 9: Stroud is playing is is not I'm not gonna put
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 9: my my hat on that. So I think it's pat Patriots.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: I think the eventual Super Bowl winner comes out of
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: the NFC. So these are the games that actually matter.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: Seahawks Niners? Who you got?
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 9: Who do I want? Or who do I got?
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I think you want the Niners. We've established that right.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: But because you're yes, because you're drawing a distinction, that
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 3: means you think the Seahawks are actually gonna win.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean there's a lot, there's lots of like,
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 9: there's lots of like what the Niners are doing. I
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 9: just don't see, you know, I don't see party having
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 9: a lot of success against the Seahawks. Not a good matchup,
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 9: and they're just so out man like, when when does
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 9: it become too much? So I got Seattle, even though
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 9: I want Frisco and would not be surprised if they
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 9: have an upset.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 4: Cala Williams can't beat Matt Stafford, Kenny.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 9: I don't want to say zero chance because you know
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 9: a lot of people get off but hurt when I
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 9: say zero chance. When I when I said that about
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 9: some team a year, a couple of years ago, And
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 9: you know there's a lot of really crazy fans out
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 9: there from fan bases. So no, I think it's going
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 9: to be a high scoring affair. I think the over
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 9: unders fifty one, and I'm taking the over all day
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 9: every day. If I happen to be a better which
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 9: I don't. My son asked me all the time like that,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 9: why don't you bet you would kill it? And I'm like, Son,
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 9: that's the slippery slope. You know, you lose once, you
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 9: lose again, and before you know, you don't have a house.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 9: So I'd rather keep my house and and have and
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 9: not have to go back to work. So I think
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 9: it's gonna be a great game. Two really good offense,
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 9: great coaches. I think they appeal of the lafloor. Johnson
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 9: and you know their best friends Lafore and Uh and
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 9: Sean and Shawn's. You know, I keep in touch for
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 9: Shawn weekly and I'm gonna send my my Friday night
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 9: text just to ask him how the week of prep
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 9: win and this and that. I know he's gonna try
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 9: to take it to Ben, so, uh, you gotta believe
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 9: this is this is the year of the Rams, and
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 9: they gotta go do it, doesn't matter how cold it is,
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 9: and this, that and the other. They're trying to find
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 9: excuses why Chicago is going to be in the game
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 9: and try to win it. The reality is the Rams
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 9: are better across the board offense and defense, and they
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 9: just gotta go do it.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 5: Did we see Aaron Rodgers play NFL football ever again?
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 9: I think he's done.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 4: I think you're right. But I thought that last year too.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he's done. I think, you know, do
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 9: you really want to start over with a new coach wherever?
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 9: If it's in Pittsburgh? I mean, Pittsburgh's got They're not
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 9: a very good football team. They're they're really not. They
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 9: don't have much on offense, They're getting old across the board,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 9: And then do you want to start somewhere new, Like
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 9: do you want to even want to take on that challenge?
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 9: I think he's ready. I think you know, he just
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 9: got married, maybe once to have some kids, maybe wants
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 9: to be a dad, like that'd be cool, And uh,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 9: you know he could. He kind of sense it, but
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 9: who knows. I think he's done. So we'll see.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 5: Do you know anyone else from your NFL days who
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 5: got married and then kept their wife completely secret to
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 5: the world, especially a high profile player like that?
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 9: Uh to know and uh hey to each start. Oh man,
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 9: it's I.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 4: Mean, it's it's impressive.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 5: There's there's no pictures of her on the internet that
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 5: no one knows what like, it's.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 9: He lives a different he lives a different life than
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 9: we ever could even think of it.
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 3: It's like Napoleon Dynamite's girlfriend, Like you just don't.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 4: Know if she's even real.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 9: Classic, I don't know.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 3: All right, dude, appreciate your time as always, go niners.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 4: We can at least agree on that for this weekend.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 9: You got it, baby, I won't ever say it, but
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 9: go round.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: That's Eric Weddle the Hall of Fame or College Football
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty six. And just
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 3: so you know, if you're out there and you want
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: to make a case a comparable for Eric Weddle being
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 3: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, John Lynch is
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 3: the best example. Eric Weddle has more tackles than John Lynch.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: He made more Pro Bowl teams, excuse me, more all
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 3: Pro teams than John Lynch. All of their other stats
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 3: are very very comparable, So both one time Super Bowl champions.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 3: If you are a believer that John Lynch has earned
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 3: his way into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, then
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 3: you're also a believer that Eric Weddle has. Weird to
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 3: hear a guy argue against his own eligibility.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 4: By the way, why.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: This is why people like Eric Weddle are given those
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 3: kind of talents, athletic abilities, et cetera, instead of people
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: like me. If I was as accomplished in football or
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 3: anything for that matter, as Eric Weddle, I would be
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 3: just so disgustingly insufferable about it. I'd be pounding my
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: own drum. And He's just like, I don't know, I
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe I don't think so. It's crazy, but
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 3: the College Football Hall of Fame is recognizing the fourth
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 3: ute in its illustrious history, and that is our own guy.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 3: That's Eric Weddle, who was a two time Out West
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 3: Conference Defensive Player of the Year consensus All American as
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 3: a senior. He was the top draft pick of his hometown,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 3: San Diego Chargers. Remember they did not have a first
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 3: round pick that year. They took him with their first
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 3: available pick. And he's had a great career in a
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: great life.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 4: And if you don't.
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 3: Follow him on social media, I think they account is
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 3: Weddel's beard.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 4: Go find it.
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 3: When he reveals to his family, he tells his kids,
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 3: We're going to Vegas.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 4: Can you guess why?
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 5: And they make all these guesses and then he's like, no,
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 5: because I'm going to the Hall of Fame. And then
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 5: he makes a couple funny jokes. All right, I put
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 5: some pole questions up today. I'm going to tell you
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 5: how the pole results are going on the question about
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 5: how important nil is in terms of winning in college football,
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 5: like is it number one?
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 4: Number two? Number three, number four?
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 3: Also, I put a pole question out about whether or
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 3: not the changing state of things is making you watch less.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 3: I'll give you the results on those palls. Soehan O'Connell
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 3: ESPN seven ninety two.
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  Speaker 1: You are listening to the Shaan O'Connell show. It's your
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  Speaker 3: Jn od'connell's show ESPN seven hundred ninety two one FM
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  Speaker 3: keeping an eye on the transfer portal here. As far
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 3: as Power four players Division one players, according to on three,
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 3: there's only been looks like about a dozen entrants into
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 3: the transfer portal today, so the flood has obviously slowed
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 3: to a trickle. We'll see how it nets out for
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 3: Utah when everything tomorrow. According to on threes Transfer portal tracker,
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 3: there are three thousand and ten these are they only
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: they only do Division one? Okay, three ten players entered
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 3: to the transfer portal in this window one thousand, six
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 3: hundred and ninety seven. Fifty five percent of them have
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: committed elsewhere. Thirty six have withdrawn their names, So that's
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 3: still well over one thousand people that are going to
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 3: be left. Let's say John travolta meme from uh I
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 3: guess that's from pulp fiction where he's just like shrugging,
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 3: looking around, like what yeah.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 4: There was another thing that they talked about.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 3: When Josh Pate joined Ri rich Isen this morning, he
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 3: was asked about those numbers, and like, nobody goes into
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 3: the transfer portal thinking that this is going to be
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 3: the end of their college football career, or at least
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 3: their college football career as a scholarship athlete. Nobody thinks that,
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 3: and for a thousand people or more, that's gonna be
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 3: the reality. That's it's pretty insane for being honest, and
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 3: because nobody thinks that. At some point, the agents, the family,
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 3: whatever their representation, whatever, the people that they that these
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: players surround themselves with to help manage things so that
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 3: they can just focus on playing and getting better at football.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 3: Right at some point and hopefully sooner rather than later,
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 3: they need to, they need to start giving better advice.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 5: Is to say, I know you think you can play anywhere.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 5: I believe you can play anywhere, but the statistics say
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 5: this is a bad idea. It's better to try to
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 5: just stick it out where you are. Unless you already
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 5: have something, unless I already have something lined up for you,
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 5: Let's just let's try one more year where you are. Right,
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 5: things can change, Circumstances can change, and that that can
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 5: happen even if you have the same head coach, by
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 5: the way, same position coach. Everything in theory can be
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 5: the same, and yet things can completely change, right, and
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 5: so you just I just hope that there's counsel to
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 5: be more for more patients sooner rather than later, because
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 5: I don't care if you think it doesn't really matter,
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 5: like I hear you say that that Josh Pate said that,
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 5: and as true as that is, it doesn't matter. You
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 5: still may not play anywhere else and that would be
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 5: quite a catastrophic thing for you to have to deal with. Well,
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 5: a tough thing, especially if you're not expecting it to
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 5: go that way. And then, I mean, the element of
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 5: being on scholarship or not for some people is the
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 5: make or break, right.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 4: There's there's not a lot of people.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 5: Who, especially with how expensive education is now, who can
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 5: be like, yeah, I'm just going to go like pay
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 5: my own way on out of state tuition wherever and
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 5: try to battle my way back on through like a
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 5: tryout or something like that. It's just such a difficult thing.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 5: So changes are coming in college football. I think the
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 5: calendar is going to be tweaked. The playoff format I
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 5: think is going to be tweaked. Hopefully this is something
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 5: that can be addressed as well. I don't know how
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 5: you would do it, honestly, like.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 3: Limiting it to a one transfer without penalty would probably
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 3: be a.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 4: Reasonable way to do it.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 5: I don't legality of that's very difficult, right, I don't
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 5: know if that's going to hold up in court.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 5: That's that's the big elephant in the room. Is that
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 5: the reason why And you know this, everyone who's listened,
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 5: who's a collegeable fan knows this. Everyone listening knows this.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 5: The reason why nothing like that has even been attempted
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 5: yet is because they're afraid that it's not going to
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 5: hold up in court. And there's good reason for that.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 4: Ye okay.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 3: I put the poll questions out today, where do you
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 3: think money slash nil ranks in terms of importance when
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 3: trying to win in today's college sports world? When you
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 3: again the thing you can put relative to coaching, team, chemistry, health,
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: flat out, luck, et cetera. Sixty five percent of those
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 3: responding to the poll today have said it is number
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 3: one nil and spending is the number one thing in
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 3: winning twenty seven Well, twenty eight percent say that it's
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 3: number two, three percent say that it's numbers sorry, six
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 3: percent say that it's number three, and point six percent
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 3: say that it's the fourth most important thing.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 5: Point six percent shout out to the one person.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 4: Who the other.
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 3: The other question was, has the present state of college
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 3: sports with regard to nil and transfers changed your viewing
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 3: habits on game days? Fifty one percent said yes, I
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: watched less and and forty nine percent said no, I
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 3: still watch it all. I think that's where most people
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 3: net out, where they're.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 4: Just like, I hate this. I'm so sick of hearing
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 4: about transfers.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 3: I'm so sick of hearing about this kid needs this
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 3: much money and you gotta buy this kid's mama car.
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 3: And then they're just like, Okay, games on. I think
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 3: that's where we're still at for the most part. I
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: don't know if we ever really get away from that.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 3: Remember when like the Kaepernick stuff was going on and
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 3: people were just, oh, I'm not watching, Oh yes, I'm watching.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: I think that we're still as an American sports society.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 4: We're gonna watch. If it's on, we're gonna watch. I think.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 3: But the NCAA has to be careful, which is weird
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 3: because I think they know they have to be careful.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: I just don't think that the players and their agents
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 3: know that you have to be careful.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 5: And I going back to what we were talking about
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 5: with the transfer por I hope it gets addressed from
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 5: like elite, from an NCITU waste standpoint, something beyond that.
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 5: But I just go just because you mentioned agents gotta
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 5: be careful with things, it just feels more realistic that
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 5: it's got to come from the camp themselves. The representations
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 5: seem to be the ones to say, no, this isn't
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 5: a good idea, don't do it, because I think if
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 5: we're waiting for rules, we may be waiting for the
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 5: rest of our lives.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 3: It's interesting because you know, we'll talk about this on
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 3: the show tomorrow. There's like a pretty strong push that
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 3: even like university presidents are finally making some statements, athletic
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 3: directors are finally making some statements. There's a there's a
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 3: strong push right now to actually attempt to establish some guardrails.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 3: And before everyone was silent on it for the reasons
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 3: that James has already stated, because they didn't want to
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 3: be sued. No one wanted to show support to any
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 3: kind of limitation to the student athlete. And now people
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 3: are starting to realize, well, you don't have to put
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 3: them in a tiny little box, but you do have
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 3: to put them in like an enclosure. At least you
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 3: got to give them like a national park to Roman.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 3: You can't just let it be like you can go
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 3: wherever you want.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 5: So maybe an island off the coast of South Africa,
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 5: of South America. Maybe like a little hidden facility on
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 5: an island off the coast of Costa Rica, little Jurassic
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 5: Park situation here, maybe the Islands of Death.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 3: You know, My only problem with all of those movies
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 3: and the offshoot storylines that we were nine or nine
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: iterations into Jurassic Park now is like, it's not believable
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 3: that there's that many secret islands owned by that corporation.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, one sure.
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 3: Even the secondary site in the Lost World even two
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 3: b Yeah, that's fine.
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 4: I'll believe both of those.
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 3: When it's like, hey, it's been it's been thirty years
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: since the first Jurassic Pus and no one ever looked
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 3: if there was another secret island. Guess what there is?
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 3: Come on, Come on, the authorities after these catastrophic events
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 3: just never bothered to look and see, like, hey, think
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 3: we're we're getting pretty reckless with these secret island facilities.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 5: Let's just take a helicopter.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 4: With some heat signatures.
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 3: Let's go see if there's any more of these anywhere,
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 3: and they they Just thirty years later.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 5: You're still finding secret island dinosaurs. Come on. What makes
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 5: what makes it even less believable is in Fallen Kingdom,
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 5: the second of the Jurassic worlds. Okay, they have like
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 5: the big congressional hearings, that doctor that that doctor Malcolm
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 5: Jeff Goldblum's character famously uh testifies that right leaves us
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 5: leave statements at and it's like, Okay, if you're going,
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 5: if you're bothering to do this, then you're probably bothering
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 5: to search as to what you're certainly not. I'm still
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 5: here for any any iteration of Jurassic Park or Jurrassic
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 5: World that comes out. It's especially because this last one
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 5: ended up being really good, kind of fun. Yeah, I'm
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 5: I'm still here for it. I'll watch all of pay
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 5: money to rent it on on on my TV or
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 5: go to the theater and watch it.
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'll watch every single one of them.
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 3: You don't even have to put dialogue in for me,
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 3: just put dinosaurs on there.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like a five year old t rex.
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 5: T Rex like, I'll just watch, but don't try to
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 5: sell me that there's another secret island lab like this
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 5: is where they stashed their most important dinosaurs. Oh really again,
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 5: they were hiding one and ten foot long dinosaurs on
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 5: a tiny island and nobody noticed. Stop it, give me
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  Speaker 3: Mountain America Expo Center. If you can answer our trivia question,
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  Speaker 3: that's next. As we close out the Sean O'Connell Show
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  Speaker 3: on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one FM, you.
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  Speaker 1: Are tunes about Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch Chevrolet
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  Speaker 3: Closing it out on the Sean O'Connell Show, the driver
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  Speaker 3: Spence check its is next. Two tickets to the America
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  Speaker 3: the Utah Auto Xpo called it an American Auto Xpo.
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  Speaker 3: If you want Utah Auto Xpo down in Sandy, it's
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  Speaker 3: happening this weekend. If you can tell me the recently minted.
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  Speaker 3: Recently named is probably a better way to say it.
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  Speaker 3: College Football Hall of Famer Eric Weddle, as we are
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  Speaker 3: building a case for his Pro Football Hall of Fame induction,
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  Speaker 3: which he was debating against by the way crazy behavior.
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  Speaker 3: How many times was he named First Team All Pro
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL? How many times was Eric Weddle named
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  Speaker 3: First Team All Pro? Eight seven, seven three five three
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  Speaker 3: zero seven hundred. If you'd like to win a Big
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  Speaker 3: Expo this weekend, the driver of Spence Checkets is next
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  Speaker 3: in four minutes and then you have to tell them
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  Speaker 3: that Spence sent you, because that's just them's the breaks,
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  Speaker 3: Those are the rules.
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  Speaker 10: Either way, Just go. Do you use chat GPT very much?
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  Speaker 10: I've never used it, not one time, zero times. My
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  Speaker 10: wife uses it all the time. Does she use it
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  Speaker 10: to analyze your conversations? Oh my gosh, dude. Yes, that's
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  Speaker 10: becoming a thing where you have a conversation with somebody.
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  Speaker 10: They put it in chat EPT, and that's like their
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  Speaker 10: truncated response to you.
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  Speaker 6: But you haven't fiddled with it at all.
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  Speaker 5: No, Okay, I'm terrified of artificial intelligence and I hate
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  Speaker 5: that we have let this pandora out of the box.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, that's not how the metaphor goes.
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  Speaker 5: But in any case, I do not like that, Sam,
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  Speaker 5: I am so no, I don't use it.
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  Speaker 10: The data out there is about thirty percent of what
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  Speaker 10: you receive from either AI or chat GPT is proven
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  Speaker 10: be incorrect because they're still tinkering with it to try
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  Speaker 10: to get it, to get it right. Yes, it's it's
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  Speaker 10: a real thing where there are real human beings that
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  Speaker 10: instead of responding with how they feel, they will put
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  Speaker 10: your response into their chat GPT and then use that
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  Speaker 10: to guide what they have to say to you.
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  Speaker 6: It's rather terrifying. This is what big tech wants.
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  Speaker 3: It wants to just take over our brains and create
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  Speaker 3: full dependency. All of us will need them to do
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  Speaker 3: the most basic things, and then their monopoly is complete.
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  Speaker 10: The good news for you and I. And there's an
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  Speaker 10: article I ought to track it down. People do not
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  Speaker 10: believe that AI or chat GPT or whatever will ever
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  Speaker 10: take over the spoken word they haven't found a way
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  Speaker 10: to replicate, you know, enough of a voice over whatever
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  Speaker 10: you want to call it, where people gravitate towards that.
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  Speaker 10: So the good news is if you're in the business
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  Speaker 10: where you make a living talking, for now, we appear
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  Speaker 10: to be safe. If you make a living writing, you
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  Speaker 10: might be in a perilous situation. The reason I'll bring
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  Speaker 10: it up is I just plugged into chat GPTs. Eric Weddle,
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  Speaker 10: hall of famer, says why he looks like a Hall
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  Speaker 10: of Famer Six time Pro Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: I will not say first team All Pro because that's
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  Speaker 6: your poll question.
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  Speaker 4: You can because we have the correct answer.
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  Speaker 10: Five time first team All Pro, two times second team
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  Speaker 10: All Pro, NFL Interceptions leader, twenty eleven Super Bowl champ,
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  Speaker 10: one of the best safeties of the twenty tens, one
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  Speaker 10: thousand career tackles why he's not in Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 10: Eligibility requires five years after retirement, so he will be
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  Speaker 10: eligible in twenty twenty seven, and according to our friends
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  Speaker 10: at chat GPT, safeties historically have a harder path into
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  Speaker 10: the Hall of Fame compared to other positions. Bottom line
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  Speaker 10: is this, if you ask most NFL analysts, yes, Eric
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  Speaker 10: Weddle should be a Hall of Famer and it would
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  Speaker 10: be more surprising if he never gets in than if
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  Speaker 10: he eventually does. And then they go on to compare
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  Speaker 10: him to Ed Reed, Troy Palamalu, Bryant Dawkins. So, according
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  Speaker 10: to our friends a Chat GPT, Eric Weddle is gonna
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  Speaker 10: get in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 3: That's really interesting because one of the stats that Chad
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  Speaker 3: Gpt gave you is incorrect.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, now I'm typing in why Okay, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: The answer that of how many times Eric Weddle made
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  Speaker 3: the first team All Pro?
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  Speaker 4: I think they have it backwards.
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  Speaker 10: See, thirty percent of this stuff is incorrect. We're proving
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  Speaker 10: what we are actually doing society as service right now
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  Speaker 10: to your time first team All Pro. Now I'm gonna
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  Speaker 10: ask why does my coworker bully me? Let's see what
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  Speaker 10: this says, because I'm just trying to participate in the
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  Speaker 10: conversation here. But no, we're doing we're we're we're doing
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  Speaker 10: society's service. Thirty percent of this stuff is incorrect. Okay,
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  Speaker 10: here's the answer to why does my bully Why does
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  Speaker 10: my coworker bully me? Very kind message, I'm really sorry,
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  Speaker 10: you're dealing with that being bullied at work and feel
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  Speaker 10: confusing and personal, even when it isn't most of the time.
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  Speaker 6: Listen up, Sean.
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  Speaker 10: Bullying says far more about the bully than it says
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  Speaker 10: about you. Here are the most common reasons it happens,
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  Speaker 10: and then we can talk about what to do. Number one,
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  Speaker 10: they fell threatened.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Number two, they need controller power. Yes.
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  Speaker 10: Number three, this is the one I've landed on with you.
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  Speaker 10: They're projecting their own issues.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Also every time.
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  Speaker 6: Number four they've learned this behavior works.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 10: Number five, and you know this is where we need
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  Speaker 10: to hone in on my attributes. You mistake my kindness
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  Speaker 10: for weakness.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: All of those things are true except number one. You're
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  Speaker 3: very non threatening. You're like a human koala bear.
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  Speaker 6: You know I'll take that because I'm a nice guy.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 10: Finally, important reminder, being bully does not mean you did
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  Speaker 10: anything wrong.
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  Speaker 6: Healthy people don't bully full stop. So there you go.
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  Speaker 5: Wait wait, Chad GBT uses full stop.
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  Speaker 10: They apparently I am just learning this because Andre.
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  Speaker 4: Chadd GPT is like an assistant British man something like it.
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  Speaker 10: I am just learning that it is a real thing
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  Speaker 10: that people will get a text message and then plug
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  Speaker 10: your response into a chat GPT system and then use
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  Speaker 10: that to send their own response instead of acting like,
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  Speaker 10: you know, a normal person. I like it so, but
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  Speaker 10: but again, thirty percent of the data says thirty percent
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  Speaker 10: of AI or chat GPT is incorrect, So you cannot
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  Speaker 10: completely rely on it.
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  Speaker 4: We are very reliant on it, Yes we are.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, it's getting worse.
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  Speaker 4: All right, cool, there you go.
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  Speaker 6: How's the show today? I listened to a good point.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't use chat GPT to generate any of my show.
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  Speaker 5: I can't make that same promise for the drive.
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  Speaker 10: I might say, what should what would I plug into
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  Speaker 10: chat GPT for the radio show today?
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  Speaker 9: I might?
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  Speaker 5: I might just create a segment January fifteenth, what should
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  Speaker 5: I talk about?
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  Speaker 6: But they don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Victor wembin Yama shaved his head and everyone is scared.
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  Speaker 10: Could I type in you know what? One more thing?
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  Speaker 10: Let me type in let's see where they say about this?
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  Speaker 10: All right, Utah football losing players to Michigan. Let's see
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  Speaker 10: what this says. Are you still not saying Kyle's name
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  Speaker 10: on air? Yeah, we're giving him the Voldemort treatment. We're
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  Speaker 10: trying that out this week. It's nice.
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  Speaker 6: What does it mean?
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  Speaker 10: Let's see what it says, and then I will use
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  Speaker 10: this for the opening of the show.
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  Speaker 6: I'll just rechat GPT.
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  Speaker 10: Utah football players losing Utah Football losing players to Michigan.
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  Speaker 6: What does it mean? It's mainly tied to a big
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  Speaker 6: coaching move.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, chat.
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  Speaker 3: Profound Okay, hey tell you what. You can't pay for
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  Speaker 3: that kind of analysis.
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  Speaker 6: It's true.
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  Speaker 10: Uh, it doesn't necessarily mean Utah is doomed. Okay, so
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  Speaker 10: there you go. Uh bottom line is this they bottom line?
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  Speaker 10: And at the end, Utah players leaving for Michigan right
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  Speaker 10: now mainly ref lex a major coaching change, no kidding,
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  Speaker 10: players following a coach they trust, and the reality of
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  Speaker 10: the college football transfer portal. It doesn't automatically mean Utah's collapsing,
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  Speaker 10: but it does make this offseason more transitional and noteworthy
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  Speaker 10: than usual. If you want, I can explain how this
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  Speaker 10: might affect Utah's performances next season. No, thanks for good.
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  Speaker 10: So there you go. I mean it's pretty compelling content.
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