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The Hidden Science Behind a Home That Feels Good · Repcolite Home Improvement Show

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, thanks for tuning in. You're listening to Home
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  Speaker 1: in Progress by Repcolite Paint, sponsored by Benjamin Moore, and
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  Speaker 1: we're doing something a little bit crazy this week. I
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  Speaker 1: say that a lot, but this week feels a little
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  Speaker 1: weirder than normal. I'm going to be talking about neuroscience
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  Speaker 1: and how that connects to interior design. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be doing that, and I know that sounds a little
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  Speaker 1: bit weird, but it's a big and I think kind
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  Speaker 1: of a fun conversation and there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: really good things tucked to weigh in it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you've ever wondered what it is that makes a
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  Speaker 1: space just feel like home, if you've ever wondered that,
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  Speaker 1: I might have some answers for you, and I definitely
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to surprise you. So that's coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get to that, though, I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about some tools or products that seem so simple, so basic,
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  Speaker 1: so easy to use, that nothing could possibly go wrong
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  Speaker 1: when you use them, and then you use them and
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  Speaker 1: you find that, oh, indeed, there are things that can
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  Speaker 1: go wrong. So I want to talk about that. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be just kind of fun. I'm just having a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of fun here because we've got big important
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  Speaker 1: stuff coming up. But let's start with cheese graders. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's my first example, and I'm talking about it because
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  Speaker 1: the other day I'm making pizzas. Okay, I'm grating the
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  Speaker 1: cheese and I'm listening to a cowboy story on Audible
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  Speaker 1: and I'm really getting into it. You know, it's a
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  Speaker 1: big showdown coming up. And you know, it's not just
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  Speaker 1: a western that I'm listening to. It's a dramatic reenactment
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  Speaker 1: or a full cast audio kind of a thing, so
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  Speaker 1: sound effects and everything. You know, my hero cowboy guy
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  Speaker 1: is doing his thing. Chick Boudry, He's a Louis Lamore character.
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  Speaker 1: He's my wish I was that guy, you know, person
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  Speaker 1: in my life. Anyway, I'm listening to good old Chick Bowdrey,
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  Speaker 1: getting all excited and I'm grading cheese ready for pizza,
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  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I get careless and I
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  Speaker 1: slip drag my knuckles the cheese greater, and just like that, whoop,
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of skin is gone, like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of skin is gone. You know, that hurts really bad
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  Speaker 1: when you do that, definitely hurts, But that's only half
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  Speaker 1: the problem. You know, dealing with pain is probably the
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  Speaker 1: easiest part of the whole thing. The other half, the
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  Speaker 1: other half of the problem, is that you've got to
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  Speaker 1: find the pieces of you that have gone into the cheese.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to find it before other people realize that
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  Speaker 1: you're even looking for it. Right, There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of subterfuge that has to go on or
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be problems, you know. And for me,
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  Speaker 1: the kids are ever present whenever anything dumb happens. I
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  Speaker 1: could be trapped somewhere, you know, in a well, let's say,
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  Speaker 1: and I could need help and nobody would be available
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  Speaker 1: for hours or days. They never even know I was
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  Speaker 1: in the well. But if I accidentally grunt in the
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  Speaker 1: living room when nobody's around without meaning to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just I make an old man grunt, you know, right,
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  Speaker 1: you just kind of for no reason, just sitting there, hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And I do that periodically, I don't know why. But
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  Speaker 1: when I do that, the room could be empty, split
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  Speaker 1: seconds before the minute I do my grunt, all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, everybody's there and they laugh and laugh and laugh.
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  Speaker 1: Or if I go outside and trip over a stick
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  Speaker 1: on the yard, trying to walk somewhere, trip and fall
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  Speaker 1: face first on the grass. There's always a group of
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  Speaker 1: them there to laugh about it, to take pictures of it,
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  Speaker 1: to talk about it for days unless I get hurt.
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  Speaker 1: If I get hurt when I fall, nobody around anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how it happens, but it does. They've
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  Speaker 1: got a sixth sense, my kids do when something dumb happens. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. The minute I drag my knuckles over
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  Speaker 1: the cheese grater the other day and I make my
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  Speaker 1: grunt of pain, hmmm, they're all about it. What's wrong?
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  Speaker 1: What happened? What did you do? What are you looking
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  Speaker 1: for in the cheese? Did you drop something in the cheese?
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  Speaker 1: And then of course they put two and two together
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  Speaker 1: and it hits them, and you know, all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden they get it. Oh no, you lopped off a
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  Speaker 1: big chunk of your hand and you put it in
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  Speaker 1: the cheese. I'm having cold cereal for dinner. Right. They
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  Speaker 1: seem so simple, But you've got to be careful. You've
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  Speaker 1: got to know what you're doing. You've got to be vigilant.
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  Speaker 1: Shouldn't be listening to Chick Bowdrey you're grating cheese. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: let's make the paint point. And like I said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just having fun. You know, there's not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: brilliants coming. The brilliance is coming up later in the show.
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  Speaker 1: This is just me having fun and filling six minutes
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  Speaker 1: with something that hopefully will help you a little bit. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: the paint point, I want to talk about silicone cock
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  Speaker 1: because silicone cac is another tool or product that seems
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  Speaker 1: really basic. You know, it's cock, right, sealan, we know
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  Speaker 1: what it's for, we know where we'd use it, but
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  Speaker 1: do we Silicon cock sticks to tons of different surfaces.
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  Speaker 1: It's also extremely water repellent, and so people will grab
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  Speaker 1: it and they'll use it in a lot of different
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  Speaker 1: areas in the home or outside the home. But here's
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  Speaker 1: something a lot of people don't realize at first. They
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  Speaker 1: realize this later and then they never forget it, but
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  Speaker 1: they don't realize us at first. Silicone calk one hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent silicone cock or sealant resists paint completely. You just
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  Speaker 1: can't get paint to stick to it. Period. Even priming
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't fix it. If you've used it and you
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  Speaker 1: need to paint over it, you're really just stuck. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe that doesn't sound all that bad at first, but
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  Speaker 1: play it out because this has happened to many many people.
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  Speaker 1: They're installing base boards and they grab calk, you know
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  Speaker 1: the big box store. They grab calc it's in the
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  Speaker 1: tube or in the rack where all the cock is,
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  Speaker 1: and they grab it. They assume it's paintable, and they
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  Speaker 1: apply it to everything looks great, and then they paint
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  Speaker 1: it and the paint won't stick. Now, sometimes it repels
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  Speaker 1: right away. Sometimes it takes a few days, but the
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  Speaker 1: paint won't stick, and that's when the problem becomes apparent.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they assume a primer is going to fix it,
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  Speaker 1: But a primer won't fix it. The only real solution
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  Speaker 1: is to remove the cock. But even then the residue
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  Speaker 1: can remain, and that can resist new paint and even
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  Speaker 1: new caulking, depending on how much of it is there.
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  Speaker 1: The whole thing is a huge mess. It's a huge
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  Speaker 1: waste of time, it's a huge waste of money. So
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  Speaker 1: all that to say, just because something is buy the
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  Speaker 1: call and in a call tube, that doesn't mean it's
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  Speaker 1: safe or right for the project that you're tackling. Ask
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  Speaker 1: every single time ask tell us what you're doing. At Repcolite,
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  Speaker 1: we'll make sure that the calck you go home with
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  Speaker 1: is paintable and made for the work you want. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a place for silicon culk. It does a great
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  Speaker 1: job in those situations. But if you don't understand what
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  Speaker 1: that place is, you can really mess up a project.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's just a quick fun segment because I
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  Speaker 1: really enjoyed that cheese greater story and I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: tell it. And of course I never would have served
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  Speaker 1: that cheese after grading, you know, part of myself into it.
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  Speaker 1: I just had to make this story funny. But don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: If I ever serve you pizza, you can eat with abandon.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's shift gears and start talking about how
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  Speaker 1: neuroscience can help you with interior design. We'll get started
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  Speaker 1: right after. This home in progress is brought to you
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  Speaker 1: by repcol Lite Paints and Benjamin Moore. You know, people
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  Speaker 1: often think of paint as just another line item on
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  Speaker 1: the project's supply list. But here's the thing. Everything you do,
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  Speaker 1: every hour of prep, every stroke of the brush, all
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  Speaker 1: comes down to the quality of the paint. The paint
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  Speaker 1: is the project make sure, it's the best. I want
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  Speaker 1: to start with something that I think most of us
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  Speaker 1: experienced in the past, but probably we've never thought about
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  Speaker 1: all that much. See once, if this has happened to you,
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  Speaker 1: You walk into somebody's house, right, you know, a friend,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's a vacation rental. You know, you just unlock
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  Speaker 1: that door for the first time, and you step in.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever it is you walk in, and within about thirty
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  Speaker 1: seconds or so, you feel it. You know, something settles.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe even your shoulders drop a little bit. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: there's a physical component that you can sense. You take
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  Speaker 1: a slightly deeper breath, whatever, You feel more relaxed, and
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  Speaker 1: you think, without quite meaning to, I could live here.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've walked into a number of places and
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  Speaker 1: I've said to the kids, Oh, I think I could
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  Speaker 1: live here. Maybe I should live here. Maybe I should
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  Speaker 1: hide in the basement, you know, just squat here for
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  Speaker 1: a while until you know. However, squatting rules work, but
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  Speaker 1: ownership passes to me. I don't know, I'm I'm I
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  Speaker 1: have to look into that. But I've said those things,
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  Speaker 1: I've thought those things. The spaces have just made me
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  Speaker 1: feel like I belong there. And then there's the other version,
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  Speaker 1: that not as good version. But you walk into a
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  Speaker 1: space that looks fine, right, there's something really wrong with
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  Speaker 1: it exactly. It's clean, maybe it's organized, maybe it's even
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  Speaker 1: been recently renovated, but something just doesn't feel right. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't name it. You just know you really don't
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  Speaker 1: want to stay here long. This isn't this isn't a
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  Speaker 1: place I want to move into, or maybe that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: even cross your mind. But the other feeling, the positive one,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't happen in that space anyway. What is that? What's
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  Speaker 1: actually happening in those thirty seconds that's producing those feelings?
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  Speaker 1: Because here's what I want to get into. That feeling
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  Speaker 1: isn't random, and it's not just taste, you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: the easy answer. While this clearly matches my taste, it's
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  Speaker 1: not taste. You know, taste is real and it matters.
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  Speaker 1: But there's something else going on underneath everything, something most
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  Speaker 1: of us have never given a reason to even think about.
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  Speaker 1: It's a physiological and neurological response that happens before your
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  Speaker 1: conscious mind has even formed a thought about the room.
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  Speaker 1: This is pretty heavy stuff for a Saturday morning, So
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  Speaker 1: maybe you need to just co catch the podcast and
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  Speaker 1: listen a little later, but this is the time slot
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  Speaker 1: I've got, So we're going to talk about how your
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  Speaker 1: conscious mind is not even aware of some of these
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  Speaker 1: responses that are happening to it. Your nervous system is
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  Speaker 1: reaching a conclusion about a space and it's giving it
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  Speaker 1: to you as a feeling. And it's not something that
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  Speaker 1: you decided. You didn't think it through and come up
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  Speaker 1: with this answer. It's just a feeling that arrives. And
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  Speaker 1: here's why that matters practically, here's why we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: it in the first place. If that response is happening
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  Speaker 1: below conscious thought, then understanding what's driving it is the
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  Speaker 1: most useful thing you can know as you make decisions
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  Speaker 1: about your home when it comes to design and colors
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  Speaker 1: and all of that, because once you see this and
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  Speaker 1: understand it, it's really going to change every design decision
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  Speaker 1: I think you'll ever make. And that's a really big claim.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll have to see if I can deliver on that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my best, but to try to deliver
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  Speaker 1: on it. To get started, let's start with the brain. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: your brain isn't a camera. We all know that. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't just record what's in front of you, and then
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  Speaker 1: file it away so you can look at it later,
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  Speaker 1: or for some of us, you know, file it away
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  Speaker 1: and then immediately delete or lose where those files are.
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  Speaker 1: You know, some of us do that. But that's not
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  Speaker 1: what the brain is. It's more like a prediction engine.
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  Speaker 1: And this is in itself a really interesting concept and thought.
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  Speaker 1: But your brain is more like a prediction engine. It's
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  Speaker 1: constantly generating expectations about the world. It's checking them against
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  Speaker 1: what's actually happening, what it's actually seeing and sensing, and
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  Speaker 1: then it's updating in real time. And here's the critical part.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of that processing is happening before you're consciously
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  Speaker 1: even aware of it. You know, your nervous system has
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  Speaker 1: already started forming a response to a before your thinking
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  Speaker 1: mind has had a chance to weigh in, which means
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  Speaker 1: you don't get to reason your way into or out
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  Speaker 1: of a bad space. You can stand in a room
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  Speaker 1: and tell yourself it's fine. You know, you can appreciate
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  Speaker 1: that the renovation that these people did or that I did,
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  Speaker 1: was expensive, that it looks good, that the layout is practical,
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  Speaker 1: that the bones of the space are good. You can
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  Speaker 1: try to reason all of that out and tell yourself that,
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  Speaker 1: and your thinking brain might believe all of it, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, might completely believe all of that. But if
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  Speaker 1: your nervous system is picking up on something different, something
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  Speaker 1: underneath all of that reasoning, that unnamed feeling is going
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  Speaker 1: to trump the logic of a good color scheme. Every
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  Speaker 1: single time, you know, the space is doing something to you,
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  Speaker 1: whether you notice it or not. That's maybe the easiest
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  Speaker 1: way to say this now. Research suggests that when you
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  Speaker 1: look at a surface wood stone, fabric, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: name it, that, certain parts of your brain that are
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  Speaker 1: associated with touch and physical interaction. When you look at
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  Speaker 1: one of these surfaces, those parts of your brain become active.
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  Speaker 1: You know. When you see a rough stone wall, something
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  Speaker 1: in your brain begins to simulate the texture. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you know what it feels like. You know, even even
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  Speaker 1: though you haven't touched it. When you look at a soft,
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  Speaker 1: squishy sofa, we instantly form an idea of what it's
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  Speaker 1: going to feel like to sit on it or sink
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  Speaker 1: into it. You know, we know what it's going to
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  Speaker 1: feel like. When we see shiny granite countertops, we have
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  Speaker 1: a sensation of how hard and cold they would be
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  Speaker 1: if we touch them. You know, chances are just hearing
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  Speaker 1: me say those things, you know, rough stone wall, soft
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  Speaker 1: squishy sofa, shiny granite countertops. Just hearing those things had
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  Speaker 1: you forming sensations of what those things feel like in
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  Speaker 1: your mind. You know, you're feeling the room before you've
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  Speaker 1: touched a single thing in it. In this instance, if
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  Speaker 1: that happened to you, you're feeling a room that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: even exist outside of something that I just described. And
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  Speaker 1: the brain is an amazing thing and it doesn't stop there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all those micros sensations are happening. You know
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  Speaker 1: how the countertops would feel, or you know what the
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  Speaker 1: texture of the wall probably feels like. All of that's happening,
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  Speaker 1: but your nervous system is going further and it's building
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  Speaker 1: an entire model of the space, and it's asking is
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  Speaker 1: it safe? Is it inviting? Does it feel like somewhere
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  Speaker 1: I can let my guard down? You know, it's we
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  Speaker 1: can't stop it, we can't start it. It's just happening.
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  Speaker 1: It happens all the time, and it's instantly, you know,
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  Speaker 1: asking those questions and instantly getting answers back, and it's
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  Speaker 1: not getting answers in words. It's getting them all in feelings,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes that feeling is immediate ease, you know, comfort,
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  Speaker 1: the sense that's something in you can relax, And sometimes
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  Speaker 1: even in a space that looks perfectly fine, the report
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  Speaker 1: that comes back is something more like friction. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not alarm. You know, we're not freaking out most
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  Speaker 1: of the time. It's not even maybe discomfort. It's just
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  Speaker 1: this something you know that that doesn't feel right, it's
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  Speaker 1: not quite resolved. The space is asking your brain to
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  Speaker 1: keep working rather than let it rest. And our brain again,
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  Speaker 1: it's not in words. It's this feeling of unease. We're
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  Speaker 1: just not at peace, we're not comfortable there. Most of
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  Speaker 1: us have felt both of those things. We just haven't
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  Speaker 1: had language for what's causing them, or we've assigned them
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  Speaker 1: to other causes. But what's going on is physiological and neurological.
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  Speaker 1: So what causes the discomfort, what causes the friction, or
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  Speaker 1: on the other hand, what's causing the peace and the ease.
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  Speaker 1: Some of it, you know, some of what causes that
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  Speaker 1: is personal. It's our history, our associations, our specific experiences,
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  Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But a surprising amount of it
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  Speaker 1: it's consistent across people everywhere. It's rooted in how human
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  Speaker 1: nervous systems process environments in general. And that's what I
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  Speaker 1: want to get into. The things that you know, at
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  Speaker 1: least somewhat universally tend to generate friction, and the things
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  Speaker 1: that somewhat universally tend to produce ease, and let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about those things. And they're doing this not because someone
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  Speaker 1: decided they should, but because of how we're wired. So
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  Speaker 1: before we jump completely into that, I want to deal
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  Speaker 1: with something that I'm sure that number of you are
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  Speaker 1: already thinking. You know, you're thinking, if my brain is
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  Speaker 1: this sensitive to my environment, why in the world am I? Okay? Right?
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  Speaker 1: You know, why in the world am I still making it?
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  Speaker 1: I've lived in plenty of imperfect spaces. You know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: a first apartment that was barely held together. Maybe you
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  Speaker 1: work in an office that's that's completely depressing. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the space is depressing. Anyway, you're thinking about those places
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  Speaker 1: and you're thinking I functioned in them. I'm okay right now.
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  Speaker 1: So how significant can everything that that little guy from
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  Speaker 1: repcol eight is saying on the radio really be? You know,
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  Speaker 1: how big a deal really is it? And that's a
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  Speaker 1: fair question. So I'm gonna give you an honest answer.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's best I can. Nobody is saying. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that a difficult room is going to derail
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  Speaker 1: your whole life. The human brain is incredibly adaptable, you know,
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  Speaker 1: even those of us. Well, let's just say the human
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  Speaker 1: brain is incredibly adaptable. You can function perfectly well in
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  Speaker 1: a space that's generating this constant, low level friction. People
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  Speaker 1: do it every single day. The question isn't whether you
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  Speaker 1: can survive it. The question is what is it costing you?
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  Speaker 1: You know, think about sleep. You know, I think I
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  Speaker 1: can make the case on this. You can function on
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  Speaker 1: six hours of sleep. Millions of people do. They function
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  Speaker 1: on six hours of sleep or less. It becomes normal
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: to them, It becomes their baseline. And most people running
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: on six hours of sleep will tell you they're fine.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: You know, no big deal, This is how I roll.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: But the research is pretty clear. At six hours of sleep,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: your reaction time is going to be slower, Your emotional
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: regulation is worse, decision making is impaired. Your body is
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: carrying more stress than it would if you were sleeping
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: eight hours. You know, a day, that deficit is real.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: You know, you may not feel it, but it's really there.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: It's invisible because it's constant to you. You know, it's
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: just the way you are, the way you are rolling.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: You've adapted to that baseline and you've forgotten what the
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: other version of life feels like, the version was sleep.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean it's not in impacting you. A
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: home that's working against your nervous system operates exactly the
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: same way. You know, you adapt, you stop noticing the
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: cost becomes your new normal, but it's still being paid.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: You know, you still got to pay that cost every
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: single day. In your baseline stress level, and how long
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: it takes you to decompress, you know, after work, and
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: how clearly you think even in that space, and how
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: present you are with the people that you share your
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: home with. All of that is adding up in little ways,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: you know, not dramatic ways, but in little ways, in
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: kind of a constant load level low level tax. It's
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: tax seasons, let's talk about tax. It's adding up in
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: this low level tax on your energy and your comfort,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and you're probably paying all of those you know, whatever
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: you want to call them. You know, you've been paying
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that tax for so long that you stop noticing. But
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: it's there. It's draining you bit by bit. All right,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: we're going to take a break in a second. But
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: here's something that I want you to do before we
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: come back, and I mean, actually do it. You're going
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to have to do this. This is acquired work for
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the course, because it's gonna have a big payoff in
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the next segment. So here's what you need to do.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Think of a room in your home, a specific room,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and instead of thinking about whether you like it or
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: what you change about it, just think about how your
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: body responds to the mental image of it. That sounds
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: so crazy, but just ride with me for a second.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Picture yourself in that room. Feel like I'm hypnotizing people.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Picture yourself in that room, sitting in it, being in it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Just picture yourself being there and pay attention to what
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: happens physically when you do. I know this is weird,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I know it's touchy feeling, but just humor me. Spend
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: some time imagining yourself in a space in your home,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: any space, and really focus on what you're feeling. You know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: do you feel calm and settled? Is there anything nagging
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: at you? Just think about that for a little bit,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and when we come back, I'm gonna tell you what
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: happened when I did exactly that in my own living room,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and what my body told me that my thinking mind
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: had been ignoring for months. It was really opening to me.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that right after. This home in progress
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  Speaker 1: Think about it. You spend hours prepping, sandy, taping, and
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  Speaker 1: then finally painting. Don't throw all that work away with
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  Speaker 1: an inferior product. The paint isn't just another supply. The
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  Speaker 1: paint is the project. Make sure it's the best. Last segment,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: we kind of went down what I thought was an
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: interesting road. We talked about the idea that your nervous
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: system is reading your space, your room, your home, whatever,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: reading your space constantly below the level of your conscious awareness,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and it's forming conclusions about that space, your home, your room,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: before your thinking mind even has a chance to weigh
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: in and kind of, you know, throw its opinions in
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the In the ring, we talked about why that matters,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: you know, why you can't just decide your way out
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: of a bad space. Why even if you tell yourself
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: that a room is fine. If your nervous system is
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: reading something different, that's going to win. It's going to beat.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: You know, whatever you're trying to tell yourself and make
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: yourself believe what your nervous system is sensing is going
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: to win every single time. And that's going to determine
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: how you feel about the space that you're in, about
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: your home. And before the break, I asked you to
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: do something. I asked you to picture a specific room
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: in your home and just notice what your body does
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: when you imagine yourself being in the space. You know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you don't have to sit in the space, just imagine
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: yourself being in there and really go deep, really go deep,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: and really try to put yourself there and just feel
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: what happens. You know, does something settled, you become really calm,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: does something tense up a little bit? Well, I want
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to tell you what happened when I did that. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: did that little exercise on my own before I was
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: going to ask anybody to do it. I wanted to
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: test it for safety, make sure everybody was going to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: be just fine. I tested it to find out if
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it was nuts really, and it kind of blew my mind.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So here's what happened. I pictured myself in my living room. Now,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: this is the living room that I repainted recently. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: have talked about it on the show Ad Nauseum, you know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: over and over and over. I spend most of my
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: evenings in this little room at the house, and I
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: genuinely love this room. So when I imagined myself in it,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: sitting in my favorite chair, slurping on a little coffee.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: When I imagine myself doing that, my first reaction was
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: exactly what I expected, you know, comfort, ease, total relaxation,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: just living the dream, right, And I was tempted to
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: think that this was kind of a dumb exercise to try.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: But then something happened that I didn't expect. As I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: pictured myself in that chair, I started to notice this
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: prickling sensation. That's the only way I can think to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: describe it, a prickling sensation between my shoulder blades. And
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I'm completely serious here. It wasn't dramatic or anything like that,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: but it was there. And here's the thing, I wasn't
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: just imagining it. It wasn't just in my imagination. That's
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: not where it was. It was real, you know, I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: was really feeling it right here, you know, not in
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: my living room, but right here, right between my shoulder blades.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: As I pictured myself in that room, and I thought
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that was really weird. So I kind of hung with
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that for a little bit, stayed with it and tried
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to figure out what was going on. And then it
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: hit me. It's my desk. My desk at home sits
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: directly behind that chair. This sounds so nuts, this really happened.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: It's a mission style desk. I love the desk. It's
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: not going anywhere, staying right there. I use it all
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the time. I love it. But here's what's currently sitting
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: on it. I've got a USB interface from my guitar
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: so I can plug it into the computer. I've got
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: some speakers there so when I plug it into the computer,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I can hear my guitar. Right. I've got to pile
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of guitar picks there. I've got a few bills that
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: i've you know, got to deal with. Gotta pay those bills,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: got to pay the piper, so I've gotta deal with those.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I got some magazines that I lugged up from another
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: room because I was gonna go through them for some
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: project I was working on, but I haven't gotten to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that yet. So I've got this pile of magazine sitting
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: there underneath the bills, a lot of little clutter, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: on top of the desk, and then built into the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: side of this particular desk are these two little bookshelves.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: You know, nothing fancy, just two little shelves, but they're
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: completely packed with books, overflowing with books. Honestly, now, all
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: of that sounds way worse than it really is, but
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: you know, that's generally what's going on, and it does
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: stress me out a little bit when I actually look
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: at it in the space, you know, when I think
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: about it and focus on it. Oh yeah, yeah, I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: should really get that organized. You know, I've tried to
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: organize it. There's just so many weird different things going
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: on there that I end up just shuffling everything around
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and tell myself, ah, I guess i'll organize this later.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: You know, that is We've all got spaces like that. Anyway.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Here's what got me. I wasn't thinking about that desk
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: at all when I imagine sitting in my room. It
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't even on my you know, conscious radar, but my
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: nervous system was doing what it always does. It's processing everything,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: cataloging the whole space. And apparently it's way more bothered
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: by that desk than consciously aware of things. Dan You
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: know me is the desk is creating friction in a
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: room that I otherwise really really like, And my body
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: knew it before I myself became fully aware of how
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: much it's bothering me. And I think that's the thing
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: worth holding on to here. The body keeps, you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: for lack of a better phrase, the body keeps honest books, right,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: an honest ledger our thinking minds, we kind of edit things.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: We smooth things over, We round off the edges. We
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: tell ourselves the room's fine. The desk is just a desk,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you know. It's a little cluttery, but it's not really
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: that big of a deal. Sure it's a little stressful,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: but it's not bad. The nervous system doesn't do that,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you know. It just records things as they are. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: when you actually get quiet and pay attention to what
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it's telling you, you tend to get a more honest
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: answer than your thinking mind would give you. You figure
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: out that these things maybe have a bigger impact on
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you than you might have thought. So that's a really
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: good example of something that plays out at every scale,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I think in every home. When a space has unresolved
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: things in it, you know, elements that are pulling in
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: different directions, things the brain can't quickly categorize and move
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: on from. When that's happening, your nervous system just keeps
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: working on them, you know, fiddling with them, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: quietly in the background, and you experience that as friction.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: You know, you don't know that it's happening. It's just
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: there draining you. You know, it's just a room that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: you never really settle into. It never feels perfectly comfortable,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and you can never put your finger on why. So
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the practical question in all of this nebulous stuff that
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I've been talking about, the practical question is this, what
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: does your nervous system actually want? You know, what does
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: this thing want? What's going to make it say, hey,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: this place is a really great place to be. And
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: here's what I find really interesting about all of this.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: A lot of what interior designers have been doing, you know, intuitively,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: for decades, the things that make a well designed space
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: feel different from a randomly assembled one. It turns out
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of that has a neurological basis. It's not
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: just taste, it's not just training. A lot of it
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: maps pretty directly onto how the brain actually processes environments.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: You know, everything we've been talking about, and once you
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: see that, once you understand why certain things work and
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: why certain things don't, the design decisions stop feeling arbitrary.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: They start having a reason behind them. Now, just to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: be clear, the science that we've been talking about so
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: far is real solid. You know all of that. You
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: know it's legit. But applying it to our homes, this
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: part's just me taking that science and making some inferences.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: It follows logically from what the research tells us, but
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: not every piece of it's been proven by a study
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that specifically measured these things in home environments. You know, nobody's,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: at least not yet that I'm aware of, measuring these
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: things in home environments. So I'm doing that. I'm taking
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: a jump here, and I'm encouraging you to just think
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: about this stuff and decide if it rings true for you.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I think I'm onto something. I think there's
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: something here, but there's maybe a better way to frame
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: it than what I've come up with all right, So
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: remember how we talk last segment about how your brain
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: is simulating a space before you've even touched anything. How
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you look at that soft, squishy couch and something in
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: your nervous system already has a pretty good sense of
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: what it would feel like to sit in it. You know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: that's your brain doing what it's wired to do, predicting,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: building a model of what it's seeing based on everything
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: it's learned over time. And it doesn't just do that
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: with individual things in the room, It does it with
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the whole space. You know, your brain, your nervous system
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: is looking for patterns that it can settle into a
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: story that it can follow, you know, something that's consistent.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And when it finds that, it can rest. And when
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: it rests, you get to rest. You know, you feel
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: a settling, You feel a little bit of calm, You
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: feel this sense of peace, this feeling of peace, the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: space just feels right. You know. This is one of
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the things that designers are after when they talk about
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the idea or the concept of coherence in our home
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: or in our design. Coherence isn't just about everything matching.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: It's not about making sure your pillows, your throw pillows
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: coordinate with your curtains, or at least it's not just
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: about that. It's something much bigger. It's about having that
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: thread that we talked about, that thing that runs through
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the whole home and ties it together, the common story, right,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: that your brain can find and follow as it moves
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: through the space. And here's what that actually looks like
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: in a real home. Because that's what's going to help
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: most of all, is just putting this in the context
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: of a real home. Think about flooring. One of the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: most effective things you can do for the overall feel
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: of your home is to run the same flooring through
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: as much of it as possible, you know, same color,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: same material, just flowing from room to room. When you
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: hit a space where that doesn't work, you know, maybe
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you've got hardwood flooring through most of the space and
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: then you get to the bathroom and you just don't
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: want to do that. It makes perfect sense. Don't want
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to put hardwood flooring in the bathroom. Maybe you don't
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: want carpet in the bathroom. Of course, you don't want
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: carpet in the bathroom. You want tile in here. Well,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: when you have to make that shift, choose a tile
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: that lives in the same color family as the wood.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: So even though the material changes, the color, story doesn't.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: You know, your brain moves through the house and keeps
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: finding the same thread. You know, it doesn't have to
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: stop and recalibrate, It just follows along. Or think about
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: stain colors. Here's another way to look at it. You know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: say you've got hardwood floors in a rich tone, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: then you have that same warmth show up in your
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: dining room table and chairs, and then again it shows
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: up in a piece of furniture in the living room,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: maybe in some trim detail somewhere else. You know, the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: things don't have to be identical pieces. You know, they
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: can be all different pieces, like we said, but they've
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: got that same color. You know, they're in that same
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: conversation with each other. They're all related. When that's happening,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: your brain picks up on that relationship. Even though conscious
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you isn't maybe cluing into all of that stuff, your
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: brain is happy with that. It loves the pattern, It
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: reads the story, and it settles into that relationship and
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: it just feels at peace and it feels calm. I
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: know this is so crazy, but it's so real. Same
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: thing with colors, you don't think about wall colors. A
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: home with real coherence usually has a palette, you know,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: maybe three, maybe four colors, and that palette shows up
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: in different ways throughout the whole house. You know, the
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: exact same blue doesn't have to appear in every single room,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: but a version of that blue or something in the
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: same family does keep making an appearance from time to time.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: You know, in the living room it's on the wall.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: In the bedroom it shows up, you know, in the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: fabrics or something. In the hallway it's maybe an accent somewhere.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: The rooms all feel distinct, you know, they've all got
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: their own vibe to them to some extent. You know,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: they're their own space, but they feel like they're connected,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: that they're all part of the same home. That's the thread.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: And when that's there, your brain finds it really quickly
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and it just relaxes into that space when it isn't there,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you know, when every room feels like it was designed independently,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you know, different colors, different wood tones, different styles, nothing
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: really connecting them, nothing pulling them together. When that's happening,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: your brain has to keep starting over and again. Mentioned
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: in the beginning, This isn't like some jarring derailment, and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: you don't just collapse on the floor in a fetal position.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just very subtle. It's under the surface,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: but you just don't settle in. You don't get this
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: feeling of ease or comfort. So that's coherence. That's the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: idea of consistent elements running through the whole home and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: giving your brain something to follow. But as with anything
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: in life, you can take it too far and that's
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: just as much of a mistake as not having coherence
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: at all. So we're going to talk about what that
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: looks like and how to avoid it. Right after this,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you're listening to Home in Progress, where the projects are real,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the mistakes. They're educational, sometimes painful, mostly educational. And the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: only thing more stubborn than that old wallpaper on your
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: bathroom wall is your determination to get it fixed, probably
• 31:53
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• 31:56
  Speaker 1: people who care and everything you need to get the
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: job done right. We're nearing the end of a deep
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: dive into some neurological interior design stuff. Yeah you heard
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that right. I am talking neuroscience, and I'm pairing it
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: with interior design, because this show knows no boundaries anyway.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: We talked about how many of us, probably most of us,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: have had this experience where we've walked into a room
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and we've got a feeling of instant peace or instant comfort,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe instant anxiety, instant stress. Something we don't even
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  Speaker 1: always notice it unless we think about it, but many
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  Speaker 1: of us we've walked into a new building, a new place,
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  Speaker 1: somebody else's home, maybe a vacation rental or something, and
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  Speaker 1: we've thought, in that first thirty seconds, Wow, you know
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  Speaker 1: this is great, I feel so at home here, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe we think, hmm, I don't know what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: but this isn't this isn't comfortable. Something's weird here. That
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  Speaker 1: instant reaction is, of course, you know, connected to the
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  Speaker 1: design decisions that were made, the color choices and all that,
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  Speaker 1: but even more than that, it's due to what our
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  Speaker 1: brain is subconsciously reading and processing about the place. That's
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  Speaker 1: what we've been talking about that it all starts with
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: how our brain, how our nervous system is reading these
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  Speaker 1: environments that we're in. And last segment we talked about
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  Speaker 1: how one of the things that the human brain, the
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  Speaker 1: human nervous system is looking for when it wants peace
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  Speaker 1: and comfort and calm. One of the things that's looking
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  Speaker 1: for is coherence. And coherence in interior design, it just
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  Speaker 1: means a consistent story throughout a home. And that's just
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  Speaker 1: a fancy way of saying colors and materials that are
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  Speaker 1: consistent from room to room flooring, for example. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the same flooring throughout creates this feeling of coherence. But
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  Speaker 1: I ended last segment saying that you can take coherence
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  Speaker 1: too far and that that's a mistake as well. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you create a home where every room has the
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  Speaker 1: same flooring and the same wall color and the same
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  Speaker 1: stain color on every piece of furniture and nothing else
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  Speaker 1: is really going on, you've really just created, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a hotel lobby or something like that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: everything matches, but there's not a lot of excitement or
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  Speaker 1: a lot of energy going on. You know, your brain
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  Speaker 1: can find the pattern. You know, your brain would really
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  Speaker 1: have to be phoning it in not to find the
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  Speaker 1: pattern if everything's the same. But once it does find
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  Speaker 1: the pattern, it runs out of things to do. It's boring,
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  Speaker 1: it's lifeless, and your nervous system. It doesn't settle, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't become at ease, or it doesn't find the peace
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  Speaker 1: that you want. It doesn't find it in that situation
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  Speaker 1: any more than it finds peace in chaos. It needs balance,
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  Speaker 1: and that's where variation comes in. It's the other side
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  Speaker 1: of the coherence coin, and it keeps your space from
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  Speaker 1: becoming monotonous. Here's what it looks like practically. You know,
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  Speaker 1: imagine a consistent, warm oak floor running through the whole house.
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  Speaker 1: You know, in the living room. You maybe pair it
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  Speaker 1: with a wall that has some texture or the illusion
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  Speaker 1: of texture. You know, it could be a simple paintable wallpaper.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how familiar, how familiar you are with those,
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  Speaker 1: but these paintable wallpapers are beautiful if you haven't seen them,
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  Speaker 1: subtle textures that really come to life when they're painted.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you use the same wall color on everything,
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  Speaker 1: you know in that space, and when you put it
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  Speaker 1: on the wallpaper, the textured paper, it displays differently. And
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  Speaker 1: a glipped to wallpaper definitely something to check out. But
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  Speaker 1: maybe that's not your thing. Maybe maybe you just want
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  Speaker 1: to stick with regular paint. Well, bring in a paint
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  Speaker 1: color that has just a little more depth than the
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  Speaker 1: other colors in the home, you know, not something miles
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  Speaker 1: away from the other colors. It's still got to fit
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  Speaker 1: in your established color scheme, so it's coherent. Just make
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  Speaker 1: sure it's a little bit different, you know, slightly different.
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  Speaker 1: Pairing with that floor, you know, that's the living room.
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  Speaker 1: In the bedroom, surround that same floor with softer things,
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  Speaker 1: you know, linen curtains and upholstered headboard, maybe layers of
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  Speaker 1: fabric that makes the room feel you know, quieter and
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  Speaker 1: more enveloped. The floor hasn't changed, but the room feels
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  Speaker 1: different from the living room and yet still similar. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's still coherent, but it's different. You know, there's some variation.
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  Speaker 1: In the kitchen, that's floor can meet a stone countertop
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  Speaker 1: that has you know, some interesting veining and variation and color,
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  Speaker 1: something with some visual interest and you know, a different material. Again,
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  Speaker 1: when you do that, you've got the same floor, but
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  Speaker 1: there's a different impression. Your brain moves through all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Your nervous system processes all of that, and it never
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  Speaker 1: gets bored because each room is giving it something new
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  Speaker 1: to engage with and think about. But it also never
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: gets confused or overwhelmed because that thread, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: story thread, that color thread, whatever you want to call it,
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  Speaker 1: is still there underneath everything. The foundation is consistent. The
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  Speaker 1: expression of it just changes. That's the balance, that's what
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  Speaker 1: you're shooting for. And when you land on it, that's
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: when people walk in and say they can't explain it,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: but something just feels right. Well, that feeling has a name.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Now after all of this blather about it, the feeling
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  Speaker 1: has a name. It's your prediction seeking brain, your nervous
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  Speaker 1: system finding a pattern that it can follow, and then
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  Speaker 1: finding that the pattern keeps doing something interesting throughout the space.
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  Speaker 1: When you do that, you know, when you design with
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  Speaker 1: that in mind, you give your nervous system what it's
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  Speaker 1: looking for and it starts to settle and send those
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  Speaker 1: signals that this is a safe place, this is a
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  Speaker 1: comfortable place, this is a cool place to hang out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, your predictive brain is getting confirmation for what
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  Speaker 1: it's expecting and it starts to settle down. It doesn't
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: have to run as much in the background. You know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: there's not as much friction going on, and you truly
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  Speaker 1: find yourself able to relax more deeply connect with people
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  Speaker 1: in your home more deeply, think more creatively, and just
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: feel more at peace in the space. Not small amounts
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  Speaker 1: that I'm talking about here. In some cases it can
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  Speaker 1: be big amounts. In a lot of instances, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be small amounts, but they add up and they
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  Speaker 1: really make a difference overall about how we feel about
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  Speaker 1: our home and is there really anything more important to
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  Speaker 1: get right? You know when it comes to this kind
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: of thing, you know, making sure your home feels like
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  Speaker 1: the place you want it to be, that it creates
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  Speaker 1: that atmosphere of peace and comfort and welcome them and restoration.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of what we're all after. I
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: really don't know anything else. When we're dropping money on
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  Speaker 1: making changes in our home, we're not trying to create
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  Speaker 1: places of chaos normally. We want that piece. So that's
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: why this stuff all matters, all right, Before we wrap
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: it up, I want to give you a quick look
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: at where we're going in the next couple of weeks,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: because I'm going to talk about this not as in
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: depth as I did this time. These will be smaller
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  Speaker 1: as we move forward. But I want to talk about light,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you know, lighting, how big a role lighting can play,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and how you got to get that right. We'll talk
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: about color, you know, color psychology. You know, we've talked
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: about that a ton of times, but it's still worth
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: digging into, you know. We'll do that briefly. There's a
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: lot of other things. We'll dig into all of it
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: one little bit at a time, and we're working towards helping,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: you know, all of us make our homes into the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: places that we want them to be, you know, those
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: places of peace and comfort and rest. Now at Repcolite,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: we absolutely love this stuff because for us, paint has
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: never just been about you know, getting the most durable
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  Speaker 1: finish and getting the perfect color. It is all of
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  Speaker 1: those things, but it's bigger than that. It's about what
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a space, What your space does to the people living
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  Speaker 1: in it. Is the paint working towards helping you get
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  Speaker 1: where you want to go or is it possibly detracting
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  Speaker 1: and you know, slowing you down. We want to help
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  Speaker 1: you get it right. You know, stop by any of
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  Speaker 1: our locations and let's talk about what you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: create in your home, in your business, in your space,
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  Speaker 1: and let us help you get where you want to go.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: All right, that's all the time we've got we're gonna
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: wrap this one up. If you want to catch it again,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: you can find it online at repco light dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever you do today, make sure paints a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend everybody, and I'll see you next week.
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  Speaker 1: For Home in Progress by Repcolite Paints, I'm Dan Hansen.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.