Latest / The Calcio Guys / 2024 Calcio Recap, MVP, Best XI - Ep. 251
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- 0:09Speaker 1: Episode uh two fifty one of the Couch of Guys
- 0:13Speaker 1: unofficially episode two fifty because episode two fifty we didn't
- 0:17Speaker 1: have Adriano last two weeks ago. It was me, Johnny
- 0:20Speaker 1: and uh and Luke our friend Lucas. But here on
- 0:22Speaker 1: the Couch guys. You could follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,
- 0:25Speaker 1: listen to us on all your favorite podcasting platforms with
- 0:29Speaker 1: Idriano and Johnny. I'm Nicholas GUYE. How's going.
- 0:32Speaker 2: It's been a while, it's been a while, it's going,
- 0:34Speaker 2: It's going good.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Uh.
- 0:35Speaker 2: I just want to say before we kick off, just
- 0:37Speaker 2: a big thank you.
- 0:38Speaker 4: I know you guys had episode two fifty, and I
- 0:40Speaker 4: know Lucas did a good job subbing in for myself
- 0:43Speaker 4: on that day. So I just want to just send
- 0:47Speaker 4: my uh my you know, regards and my uh you know,
- 0:50Speaker 4: my thanks to everybody who's listening all on the years,
- 0:53Speaker 4: who's followed, supported.
- 0:54Speaker 2: All that good stuff. Again, guys, we say it every week.
- 0:57Speaker 4: I sound like a broken record every week, but it
- 0:58Speaker 4: really doesn't go un noticed.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:01Speaker 4: It's because people continue to watch, list in, follow interrot
- 1:05Speaker 4: that you know, we continue to do this over two
- 1:07Speaker 4: hundred fifty episodes, so just a big, big thanks, and
- 1:12Speaker 4: we hope for for many more episodes to come and
- 1:14Speaker 4: maybe another two fifty.
- 1:15Speaker 2: We'll see.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing okay, doing a lot of corrections end
- 1:22Speaker 3: of the semester before the winter break, so I got
- 1:25Speaker 3: a lot of assignments to correct here, but I'm doing okay.
- 1:28Speaker 1: What's uh, what's the state of the education of the future, Johnny?
- 1:33Speaker 1: Our kids smart these days?
- 1:38Speaker 2: As Johnny's doing the tim Tebow.
- 1:42Speaker 5: Let's just leave that one up to the Jerry.
- 1:46Speaker 1: I mean, we're not too smart ourselves sometimes, so you know,
- 1:50Speaker 1: it's it's.
- 1:51Speaker 5: Sometimes maybe shit exactly exactly.
- 1:54Speaker 1: But guys, you know, there there was a lot of
- 1:57Speaker 1: Coulchu right since we last spoke. You know, there was
- 2:01Speaker 1: Champions League, there was City, there was Cope Italia. You know,
- 2:04Speaker 1: there was Copetalia this week. And I feel like it's
- 2:06Speaker 1: rare that there's games in December. That's usually in January.
- 2:09Speaker 1: I think they just changed things up this year. But
- 2:12Speaker 1: obviously all our teams, you know, participated in this leadest
- 2:15Speaker 1: round of sixteen. Everyone advanced except for Napoli because Napoli
- 2:21Speaker 1: had that you know, disgusting week against Latio, and you know,
- 2:25Speaker 1: so Roma, you know, pulled out the victory. It felt
- 2:28Speaker 1: like one of those rare victory, rare victories for Roma.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Milan just beat up on to Swallow, a team that
- 2:35Speaker 1: historically went to Swallow is in Citia they would always
- 2:37Speaker 1: get you know those There was a draws that me
- 2:39Speaker 1: and Adriano saw in twenty nineteen, the Sancito h five
- 2:43Speaker 1: years ago almost to the day, and then Uve. It
- 2:46Speaker 1: feels like every year when they play these rounds of
- 2:48Speaker 1: sixteen Cope Itali games against the bottom team, they always
- 2:50Speaker 1: like go out and score four wolves, and that was
- 2:53Speaker 1: the case yesterday. So one more game left in Cope
- 3:00Speaker 1: Italians tomorrow Interse. But on you know, one side of
- 3:03Speaker 1: the brackets, it's Melan Roma, Melan and Roma, so we
- 3:07Speaker 1: got to couch you guys, Derby and then Latio will
- 3:09Speaker 1: play the winner of inter so there's possibility of a
- 3:12Speaker 1: Melan Roma Lazio inter side of the bracket. And then
- 3:15Speaker 1: on the other side you've Amply blowing the Atalanta, So
- 3:18Speaker 1: one signs a lot harder than the other. But uh,
- 3:20Speaker 1: I mean, Adri Johnny, you guys gotta be happy with
- 3:23Speaker 1: at least Melan and Roma's wins in this cop Italia.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I mean, I know me one's match
- 3:30Speaker 4: was a couple of weeks ago. Now I think it
- 3:31Speaker 4: was closer to the beginning of December there, but at
- 3:35Speaker 4: that point in time, I mean kind of still in
- 3:38Speaker 4: the same rut, but with new One's performances. But uh,
- 3:42Speaker 4: seeing six goals next to me Onan's logo in a game,
- 3:47Speaker 4: it seems like we never see that really taking it
- 3:50Speaker 4: to to Sa Suol, it was.
- 3:53Speaker 1: It was a breath of.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Fresh air for for that small for that small.
- 3:56Speaker 4: Time, uh, in that matchup, and it's and it's and
- 3:59Speaker 4: it's a game that you know, it seems like Milan
- 4:02Speaker 4: and Copy Talia they always seem to kind of get
- 4:05Speaker 4: bounced out. They never really went the distance, they never
- 4:07Speaker 4: really really go for it. I'm hoping for a different result,
- 4:10Speaker 4: you know, this time.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Around this year.
- 4:12Speaker 4: I would like to see them, you know, really fight
- 4:16Speaker 4: for something, because the season so far has been been
- 4:20Speaker 4: you know, next to a disasters. So you know, if
- 4:23Speaker 4: they can do something in Copy Talia just to I
- 4:25Speaker 4: don't want to say quiet as fans and a piece
- 4:28Speaker 4: as fans because obviously that's not our main objective, but
- 4:31Speaker 4: just to do something right and something positive. I think
- 4:34Speaker 4: is a small is a small step in the right direction.
- 4:38Speaker 4: But yeah, no it's in. It's a swallow now a
- 4:42Speaker 4: CETI a B team.
- 4:44Speaker 6: Uh.
- 4:44Speaker 4: They weren't Setia for so long, like Nick said, always gave.
- 4:47Speaker 4: I think just the Milano clubs in general, you know,
- 4:50Speaker 4: Milan into uh fits in the leagues. Uh, you know
- 4:53Speaker 4: in all these you know, recent years and just past years.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Uh. So to to.
- 4:58Speaker 4: See six goals, to see a lot of players that
- 5:00Speaker 4: pup uh you know, getting either the goal or just
- 5:04Speaker 4: on on the score sheet in some sort of fashion
- 5:06Speaker 4: was was impressive. Obviously Since then till now, things have
- 5:13Speaker 4: obviously still been shaky in the league. Champions League has
- 5:17Speaker 4: been somewhat of a surprise of a different story, you know,
- 5:20Speaker 4: four straight victories in Champions League consecutively, which hasn't happened
- 5:26Speaker 4: in I think since two thousand.
- 5:27Speaker 2: And five, if I'm not mistaken.
- 5:28Speaker 4: So, but just in terms of that Colvitalion matchup six
- 5:33Speaker 4: to one, moving on to the next round to face
- 5:37Speaker 4: to face Johnny's aroma.
- 5:40Speaker 2: Again, it's not going to be an easy task.
- 5:42Speaker 4: But at the same time, I think Nylon should advance
- 5:46Speaker 4: and if if everything kind of goes you know, according
- 5:50Speaker 4: to plan maybe a del with de la Madonina in
- 5:53Speaker 4: in in the semi finals.
- 5:55Speaker 2: So happy at that point in time.
- 5:59Speaker 4: Obviously, now us to today, it's a bit of a
- 6:01Speaker 4: different different state for from you on fans, but overall
- 6:05Speaker 4: that that matchup was was a big one and a
- 6:08Speaker 4: positive in this recent stretch of form.
- 6:10Speaker 2: From you on.
- 6:15Speaker 3: I didn't get a chance to watch the Roma game
- 6:16Speaker 3: because I was driving on the way home from Cornwall,
- 6:18Speaker 3: so I don't really have much to offer, but I didn't.
- 6:20Speaker 2: I didn't see it.
- 6:21Speaker 5: It was it was for to one for one or
- 6:24Speaker 5: running versus Samia.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I forgot Samp's not in city anymore.
- 6:29Speaker 4: So yeah Stamp and thought both city B teams. Now
- 6:33Speaker 4: it's crazy life annihilated by city teams.
- 6:36Speaker 1: But Napoly actually had to play a city team didn't
- 6:40Speaker 1: do so well. I mean, Jenny, we spoke about it
- 6:42Speaker 1: right with Lucas, like no surprise that Conte fielded basically
- 6:49Speaker 1: eleven backups, but then he goes back to eleven starters
- 6:52Speaker 1: on the weekend against Latio and losers one nothing not home.
- 6:58Speaker 1: You know, at least they got the win righting it
- 7:00Speaker 1: through one against you, But did you get worried at
- 7:02Speaker 1: all from the from those two sets of games against lotso.
- 7:06Speaker 5: Not necessarily, I guess it just seems like not to
- 7:09Speaker 5: was the better team in those games, so.
- 7:12Speaker 3: You can't do much. You can't do much for a
- 7:14Speaker 3: team that's prepared. I was honestly surprised that it was
- 7:18Speaker 3: one zero. I thought Knopoly would have probably done better.
- 7:21Speaker 3: But I mean, it just goes to show that despite
- 7:27Speaker 3: some of the positives that they have experienced this year,
- 7:30Speaker 3: there's still some things to work on for this team.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Which is one of them is like, you know, like
- 7:36Speaker 3: they seem to get the job done versus other clubs,
- 7:39Speaker 3: but when they're faced a little bit of a challenge,
- 7:41Speaker 3: you know, they need to really dig deep and work
- 7:45Speaker 3: their way into getting a result. So it's it's not
- 7:50Speaker 3: really more of a worrisome thing. It's just like, okay,
- 7:53Speaker 3: But also lots of was on a very big hot streak,
- 7:55Speaker 3: so you know, sometimes when you when you're on, you're on.
- 7:59Speaker 5: You can't really stop it. Is you can try your
- 8:02Speaker 5: best to.
- 8:02Speaker 1: To to U.
- 8:05Speaker 5: I guess, to mitigate it.
- 8:06Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a better word for it,
- 8:08Speaker 3: but sometimes the hottest team is the hottest team for
- 8:11Speaker 3: the reason and Latzio showed that until they played inter
- 8:15Speaker 3: until they played in the then in there is like
- 8:18Speaker 3: hold on, pump the breaks, voice, pump the breaks.
- 8:21Speaker 2: We're just gonna put down to reality a bit. Yeah,
- 8:24Speaker 2: we're just.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Gonna put that's crazy.
- 8:26Speaker 5: We're gonna put in the back of the net, and
- 8:27Speaker 5: then you guys can have fun.
- 8:29Speaker 1: That's and you know, if there's a team to score
- 8:32Speaker 1: six goals, it's a black, black and blue team right
- 8:35Speaker 1: into Atlanta. They did that today against Chasea. You know, okay,
- 8:40Speaker 1: no disrespect to Chasena, but city of the team, right,
- 8:44Speaker 1: but these are you could argue right to the best
- 8:48Speaker 1: teams in the state city right now. I know that
- 8:50Speaker 1: the table doesn't really reflect that, reflect that, but inter
- 8:53Speaker 1: forty goals, it's a Lotto thirty nine, inter fifteen goals
- 8:56Speaker 1: against Atalanta seventeen. I feel where they are in the
- 9:00Speaker 1: Champions League state table as well there, but if I'm
- 9:03Speaker 1: not mistaken, they're each in the top ten.
- 9:06Speaker 2: In the Champions's twelfth I okay.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Sorry until this thirteenth Meulan's twelfth sorry inter sixth inter
- 9:16Speaker 1: six and you've is actually right there too. So you
- 9:17Speaker 1: got three Italian teams in a row twelve thirteen to fourteen,
- 9:20Speaker 1: so copycat leaks insert spider Man, spider Man mean here,
- 9:26Speaker 1: But yeah, for you've eight Man, it's just been a
- 9:29Speaker 1: weird what to past two months. Their past eight City
- 9:32Speaker 1: I game six draws. Their only games they've won. It
- 9:35Speaker 1: was both by two nothing scores on November tecond November ninth.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Besides that just draw draw drop to two draws at
- 9:43Speaker 1: home in two weekends in a row, saying a lot
- 9:46Speaker 1: of number two here, and then they go out and
- 9:50Speaker 1: beat Man City to nothing. I know, Man City has
- 9:53Speaker 1: been really struggling this this season. They were going in
- 9:55Speaker 1: like nine winless games in a row or something. But regardless,
- 9:59Speaker 1: like man Citi is a better team than Bologna. They're
- 10:01Speaker 1: a better team than but Vanezia. You get the win
- 10:04Speaker 1: versus man City, but you can't get the win versus
- 10:06Speaker 1: h versus Vanetsa and Bologna. It's just weird. Okay, you
- 10:10Speaker 1: know yesterday's result. I'm happy, right. You know. One thing
- 10:12Speaker 1: I was thinking is like, Okay, Mata has got to
- 10:15Speaker 1: learn that in Copia Tale you can't draw. Technically, you
- 10:18Speaker 1: can if it goes to penalties, yes, but there's gonna
- 10:20Speaker 1: be a winner and there's gonna be a loser, you know,
- 10:24Speaker 1: so you know it was good to see. Yes, you'ves again,
- 10:29Speaker 1: you've's had a lot of injuries, Nicol Gonzalez came back.
- 10:32Speaker 1: But I think it's the way now who already has
- 10:35Speaker 1: an injury, So it's like one one guy in, one
- 10:37Speaker 1: guy out type of thing. But at the end of
- 10:40Speaker 1: the next man up. But you know, you's just in
- 10:43Speaker 1: this weird, you know phase right now. Even even if
- 10:47Speaker 1: you guys look at the City at table where they're
- 10:50Speaker 1: in sixth right behind Latio, but Lato has former wins.
- 10:55Speaker 1: The only difference is that Ve has nine more draws
- 10:58Speaker 1: and five less losses. So yes, you could say all
- 11:02Speaker 1: day that Juve's undefeated on the season in the City,
- 11:05Speaker 1: which is true. Yes, but you know they might finish
- 11:08Speaker 1: the season with eighteen wins and twenty draws or something
- 11:12Speaker 1: like that. You know, it seems very realistic at this point.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't. I don't know, they can't buy a
- 11:18Speaker 2: win in City. Yeah, it seems in these in these matchups.
- 11:21Speaker 4: I mean, I think I didn't see all the game.
- 11:24Speaker 4: I saw that more of the highlights of the City
- 11:26Speaker 4: game in Champions, but I think that was probably maybe
- 11:30Speaker 4: a bit of a breath of fresh air for that
- 11:32Speaker 4: for that split second. But besides that, I mean, it
- 11:35Speaker 4: just it can't be. It can't be that you go
- 11:37Speaker 4: and beat again whatever city is having its problems. But
- 11:41Speaker 4: City's third team is better than Vanezia, right Like they
- 11:46Speaker 4: have the luxury to field anybody.
- 11:47Speaker 2: They want to buy, whoever they want and field them
- 11:50Speaker 2: on the pitch.
- 11:50Speaker 4: Vanetsia even to say Bologna, they don't have that those capabilities.
- 11:55Speaker 2: So I was a bit shocked on the result. I'll
- 11:58Speaker 2: be honest with you.
- 11:59Speaker 4: I thought it would be more of a competitive game.
- 12:01Speaker 4: You gotta kind of tip your head off to to
- 12:03Speaker 4: you in that sense. But keeping a clean sheet against
- 12:09Speaker 4: against City, you know, reigning Champions League winners. Uh you
- 12:14Speaker 4: know this year now is to to to you know,
- 12:20Speaker 4: have them had no goals and score two you know,
- 12:24Speaker 4: nice goals the McKenny, you know your American connection there
- 12:28Speaker 4: with with Waya as well, it was.
- 12:30Speaker 2: It was impressive.
- 12:31Speaker 4: But come back down to Earth into City and and
- 12:33Speaker 4: tie you know Venansa to to and again.
- 12:36Speaker 2: Where I think they end up scoring late too right
- 12:38Speaker 2: off the penalty, uh to to to to tie the game.
- 12:43Speaker 2: If not it would have been to one result and who.
- 12:46Speaker 4: Knows, I mean, we already know what the papers were
- 12:48Speaker 4: going to look like, but it would have been even
- 12:50Speaker 4: more you know, maybe negativity and more you know, attacks
- 12:53Speaker 4: against Mata and you know, we're better off with a Lagriana,
- 12:56Speaker 4: but we have Mata.
- 12:58Speaker 2: It's like back and forth.
- 12:59Speaker 4: So, uh, I don't know, I think a lot of
- 13:02Speaker 4: these I don't want to say me on it.
- 13:04Speaker 2: And you are on like the same uh, same road.
- 13:09Speaker 4: But it seems like too many ups and downs, too
- 13:12Speaker 4: many uh you know, not consistent performances from the both
- 13:17Speaker 4: of them.
- 13:18Speaker 2: And uh you.
- 13:19Speaker 4: Know that's why you know they're they're currently in six
- 13:22Speaker 4: and eighth place in the table, right so the undefeated thing,
- 13:26Speaker 4: Like you said, Nick, I agree with you.
- 13:28Speaker 2: It's not enough.
- 13:29Speaker 4: I mean, nine draws is crazy. It's it's it's crazy,
- 13:32Speaker 4: like we're sixteen matches.
- 13:34Speaker 2: In nine of them are draws. Zero zero's the two tools,
- 13:39Speaker 2: you know.
- 13:39Speaker 4: It's it's it's not enough for a team like Juve.
- 13:41Speaker 4: But I don't know how long that's gonna last.
- 13:45Speaker 2: We'll see. But one thing's for sure.
- 13:49Speaker 4: Is that you know, like you said earlier, Nick, you
- 13:52Speaker 4: know the interests of the world, the Atalantas of the
- 13:54Speaker 4: world are really are really pushing for that title.
- 13:56Speaker 2: And personally, I've still thrown up with in that mix.
- 13:59Speaker 4: I know maybe some fans won't, but I'm still throwing
- 14:03Speaker 4: not put into that mix because yeah, they got you know,
- 14:06Speaker 4: handled by Lotso twice in the span of what four
- 14:09Speaker 4: or five days. By the listen, it's never going to
- 14:12Speaker 4: be a perfect season, and if you have a little
- 14:15Speaker 4: bit of a lull in your season, it's.
- 14:16Speaker 2: It's it's normal, and I think that's what happened in oply.
- 14:19Speaker 4: But with one competition, like I've i said from the
- 14:22Speaker 4: beginning of the year, I think they really have to
- 14:25Speaker 4: go for the Scudetto.
- 14:26Speaker 2: And you know they're right there with in the mix.
- 14:28Speaker 4: So I know what one is I think that's on
- 14:30Speaker 4: is Crowing first, if I'm not mistaken by points right.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thirty one points so and then Napoli thirty five,
- 14:38Speaker 1: inter thirty four. They do have the game in hand though,
- 14:40Speaker 1: so good in Tina game, yeah, okay, it's Ferantina, that's
- 14:43Speaker 1: and yeah that's a three four game, so that's not
- 14:46Speaker 1: you know that that's a big getting to decide the
- 14:48Speaker 1: top four.
- 14:50Speaker 4: It's crazy and one of those all of those teams
- 14:53Speaker 4: like Inter has that game in hand with Fiorentina, so
- 14:56Speaker 4: that's true Meo, and has the game in hand with Bologna,
- 14:59Speaker 4: and those are teams still in this you know, the
- 15:02Speaker 4: seventy eight six, seven eight nine range whatever to maybe push.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Into some sort of European competition.
- 15:07Speaker 4: So uh, there's a lot of stick. And I don't
- 15:09Speaker 4: know when they're playing on making up these games. I
- 15:11Speaker 4: haven't heard anything official for for that, but you know
- 15:16Speaker 4: those games are going to be huge, especially if it's
- 15:19Speaker 4: you know, the table kind of sticks the way it is,
- 15:21Speaker 4: these are a bit there's going to.
- 15:22Speaker 2: Be you know, big, big matchups to be replayed.
- 15:25Speaker 4: So obviously the I think the intert Fiorentina one was
- 15:31Speaker 4: obviously just for for for the postponement and and the
- 15:35Speaker 4: replay of that game. With obviously the Beauve situation, which
- 15:39Speaker 4: I don't I don't think I got to speak about
- 15:41Speaker 4: it on the show, but just a terrible situation, Uh,
- 15:45Speaker 4: very very scary for somebody so young as well. Happy
- 15:50Speaker 4: to see him now finally back at the hospital, back
- 15:52Speaker 4: up the facility, you know, with uh with uh, you know, Bamane,
- 15:59Speaker 4: not back to one hundred but back to UH to
- 16:02Speaker 4: try to get to that one hundred percent as close
- 16:04Speaker 4: as he can be.
- 16:05Speaker 2: But just scary situation.
- 16:06Speaker 4: Happy, he's he's he's okay and back in good health.
- 16:11Speaker 4: But the Milan Bologna weather. But the way thing that
- 16:15Speaker 4: God this game postponed was in my opinion, ridiculous. They
- 16:18Speaker 4: had other sporting events that day in Bologna and they
- 16:22Speaker 4: didn't want to do Milan Bologna at Milan. That's sorry,
- 16:24Speaker 4: Bologna Milan. I don't get it. But regardless of that,
- 16:28Speaker 4: I just think these these these games in hand and
- 16:30Speaker 4: just how teams are playing and how this tough top
- 16:34Speaker 4: half of the table really is looking.
- 16:35Speaker 2: It's these all are crucial, crucial games.
- 16:37Speaker 4: And if you're gonna have two two results nil mills,
- 16:41Speaker 4: you know, one one one nothing losses, it's.
- 16:44Speaker 2: It's not gonna be a enough.
- 16:45Speaker 4: So we'll see how things turn if they do in
- 16:48Speaker 4: the new year.
- 16:51Speaker 5: Did he have to get a pacemaker installed or not.
- 16:53Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever seen a car.
- 16:55Speaker 2: Yeah he had.
- 16:55Speaker 4: I think it's like a removable one. But I'm not
- 16:57Speaker 4: sure how that all works, to be honest, I don't.
- 17:00Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw more. But that's that's
- 17:01Speaker 4: what I had seen. I didn't seen that he had
- 17:04Speaker 4: some sort of I don't know if I don't know
- 17:06Speaker 4: if pacemaker was the word I think it was, but
- 17:08Speaker 4: something along those lines that can be removed and installed
- 17:13Speaker 4: at his.
- 17:16Speaker 2: At the time that he I guess needs it or
- 17:17Speaker 2: however that works. But now I don't know.
- 17:20Speaker 4: I was also hearing other things about I'm not sure
- 17:22Speaker 4: if he's gonna be able to still play in itaway
- 17:23Speaker 4: because of that, because you're talents, so the federation doesn't
- 17:27Speaker 4: allow players to have that during play. You know, we
- 17:31Speaker 4: go back at the Christian Eericson situation that was really
- 17:35Speaker 4: really scary at the Euros. So ultimately he wif interreor
- 17:41Speaker 4: to to go put back in England, but I don't know.
- 17:44Speaker 4: I'm hoping he can get back on the pitch, and
- 17:46Speaker 4: I'm hoping it's still a Fijurdentina back in still in
- 17:49Speaker 4: ita way, because this is a young player and who
- 17:52Speaker 4: still has you know, a future ahead of him in
- 17:54Speaker 4: this game hopefully, so we'll see how things get worked
- 17:57Speaker 4: out there. I don't know all the all the particulars
- 18:00Speaker 4: with the technicalities of all that. If anybody Westenan does
- 18:04Speaker 4: let us know, but it's uh, I'm just happy that
- 18:07Speaker 4: from a scary situation. Uh, there's you know, obviously a
- 18:12Speaker 4: positive ending to all of this, hopefully.
- 18:14Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I always I saw it. Yeah,
- 18:20Speaker 2: exactly exactly.
- 18:21Speaker 1: It was good to good to see him back, and
- 18:24Speaker 1: unfortunately Sarentina lost to Bologna. Uh, you know we're talking
- 18:28Speaker 1: about Bologna, we're talking about Squerentina. It felt like that
- 18:31Speaker 1: was you know, it's a bit of a rivalry, right,
- 18:33Speaker 1: it's Derby del Lepanino. I believe it's called you know,
- 18:37Speaker 1: they're closer standings. Bologna is making their way up, guys.
- 18:39Speaker 1: I know they had a rough start to the season.
- 18:42Speaker 1: It's you know, obviously new system you coach, dollendary Taliano.
- 18:46Speaker 1: You know, unfortunately havn't gotten much done in Champions League.
- 18:50Speaker 1: They're pretty much all but eliminated now if if they
- 18:53Speaker 1: aren't mathematically eliminated at this point, but they're already pushing,
- 18:57Speaker 1: you know, at least to a European spot next year,
- 18:59Speaker 1: which is you know what, at the end of the day,
- 19:01Speaker 1: it's good to see because the worst thing that could
- 19:04Speaker 1: have happened to this Bologna to this Bologna team is,
- 19:07Speaker 1: you know, they make Champions League this year, the squad
- 19:09Speaker 1: gets blown up and then they just disappear after almost
- 19:12Speaker 1: kind of like what happened was so swallow, where a
- 19:15Speaker 1: couple of years ago they made Europa League, they kind
- 19:17Speaker 1: of floated around in that top eight zone for a while,
- 19:19Speaker 1: and now now they're in the city at be So
- 19:22Speaker 1: at least it seems like, you know, Bologna they kind
- 19:24Speaker 1: of have those ambitions and you know, even looking at
- 19:28Speaker 1: the table, like you said, there are there are twenty
- 19:30Speaker 1: five points, theyrehead a Melon Adri. I don't know, does
- 19:32Speaker 1: that whork you a bit to see Bologna had I
- 19:35Speaker 1: had a meal and I know Melon has been having
- 19:36Speaker 1: their struggles too. I know there's a whole fan seca
- 19:39Speaker 1: movement already. H zero zero Genoa tied to Genoa on
- 19:44Speaker 1: the one hundred and twenty fifth anniversary game that was
- 19:46Speaker 1: celebrated with all these legends except for Maldini. You go online,
- 19:50Speaker 1: there's all comments like where's Maldini, Where's Maldini. Uh, just
- 19:54Speaker 1: it seems like it was a bit of a dark shadow,
- 19:56Speaker 1: especially the game zero. So it reminds me of Adria
- 19:57Speaker 1: of the game we went. That was one hundred and
- 19:59Speaker 1: twenty celebration the exact same day five years earlier on
- 20:03Speaker 1: Sunday as well, and this is one hundred and twenty
- 20:06Speaker 1: fifth celebration. They do even something more spectacular and Zeros.
- 20:13Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems like the anniversary is a curse.
- 20:15Speaker 2: I don't know. It just crazy to me.
- 20:18Speaker 4: I mean, just we could have a whole podcast alone
- 20:21Speaker 4: on Meline struggles for sure. But yeah, just embarrassing is
- 20:27Speaker 4: I don't even know if that's the word, but if
- 20:29Speaker 4: that's if that word has enough weight for what's going
- 20:32Speaker 4: on a Meulan currently, but uh, it just really not
- 20:35Speaker 4: good enough. I mean, like you said in a carbon
- 20:38Speaker 4: copy of five years ago, we were at sun Seatole
- 20:41Speaker 4: against US who one hundred and twentieth anniversary. We got
- 20:43Speaker 4: we got the scarf at the entrance, everybody got it.
- 20:47Speaker 4: We walked in, had a great time. One goal got
- 20:51Speaker 4: called back by bar. That was the only difference. It
- 20:54Speaker 4: was zero was there. Everything was spitch a god that
- 20:56Speaker 4: the same thing carbon copy the anything that was different.
- 21:00Speaker 4: We saw Go Go get taken back from var in.
- 21:02Speaker 2: This game against Genoa, there was none of that.
- 21:04Speaker 4: But you know, I think the the the best thing
- 21:10Speaker 4: that we saw was was it was the kit, the
- 21:14Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty fifth anniversary kit that I personally
- 21:17Speaker 4: thought it was a beautiful, amazing, I really, uh, you know,
- 21:21Speaker 4: chosen by the fans. Puma, I think did an incredible job.
- 21:24Speaker 4: I know fans, some fans had criticism against it.
- 21:27Speaker 2: I didn't see it.
- 21:28Speaker 4: Maybe on my melan blinders on I don't know, but
- 21:30Speaker 4: for me it was it was. It was a beautiful
- 21:32Speaker 4: kit really just traditional Mealin, red and black, which I
- 21:37Speaker 4: which I really liked. But besides that, the performance against
- 21:41Speaker 4: Genoa and again no disrespect to Genoa, it was it
- 21:46Speaker 4: was just not gonna have nil nil on your hundred twenty.
- 21:48Speaker 2: And fifth anniversary.
- 21:51Speaker 4: Are so so called owner Jerry Cardinal nowhere to be found. Uh,
- 21:56Speaker 4: it's just from I think, from top to bottom, uh
- 22:00Speaker 4: is this this weekend was just was a was a mess,
- 22:02Speaker 4: and especially coming off off a you know, Champions League win,
- 22:07Speaker 4: obviously the lots to to Atlanta that the two to
- 22:10Speaker 4: one at the end and lookman, uh you know stole
- 22:14Speaker 4: stole points.
- 22:14Speaker 2: For me, on was a was a hard one to swallow.
- 22:17Speaker 2: I was pissed by it from that one.
- 22:19Speaker 4: But now to come to turn to this game against General,
- 22:22Speaker 4: are just terrible, like nobody, nobody, insane, can't finish in
- 22:27Speaker 4: the final third. It's it's things that we've been saying
- 22:30Speaker 4: as Mealan fans that I know I've been saying on
- 22:31Speaker 4: the show for not only this year. It's like we've
- 22:34Speaker 4: had spurts of not being able to do these things
- 22:37Speaker 4: and it's it's just not good enough. It's it's as
- 22:40Speaker 4: simple as that. It's it's it's unfortunate because you want
- 22:43Speaker 4: to see your the club perform, especially on their their
- 22:46Speaker 4: their anniversary. It's one hundred and twenty five years. That's
- 22:48Speaker 4: a long that's a big history. So it's and we
- 22:51Speaker 4: know Melon's history. What it is to have all those
- 22:54Speaker 4: legends come back, uh to to celebrate that with you
- 22:59Speaker 4: and perform at that, I think the highlight of the game.
- 23:01Speaker 4: But besides the kids was Bala Telly in the in
- 23:04Speaker 4: the in the tunnel went there all the legends and
- 23:07Speaker 4: and and and embracing and high fiving and handshakes with
- 23:10Speaker 4: with all the legends, and everybody was happy to see
- 23:12Speaker 4: super Mario. Besides that, there was no there was no action.
- 23:18Speaker 4: I think uh Fonseca try to is trying to or
- 23:22Speaker 4: was trying to send the message with you know.
- 23:24Speaker 2: The bench of tail uh, you know, the bench of
- 23:27Speaker 2: some some some of our players throughout throughout the season
- 23:30Speaker 2: to try to maybe wake up the squad.
- 23:32Speaker 4: And you know he put in he means which I
- 23:35Speaker 4: think he had a good game, A young player, uh,
- 23:38Speaker 4: player that you know some fans would maybe like to
- 23:40Speaker 4: see more often in the in the lineup as uh,
- 23:43Speaker 4: maybe as a right back, because our right back situation
- 23:45Speaker 4: is is beyond terrible. Between Calabria who has just dipped
- 23:50Speaker 4: tremendously and Emerson Royale, who I don't know how he's
- 23:52Speaker 4: a professional football player, soccer player. It's it's it's a
- 23:57Speaker 4: strocious but I think he did well. But again we're
- 24:01Speaker 4: missing pieces. Obviously, pooltitches Poolstitch's injury doesn't help. But after
- 24:07Speaker 4: they were just going down like flies aft of she
- 24:10Speaker 4: fills in for Poolstic, she goes down. Morata was starting,
- 24:13Speaker 4: he goes down. Uh you know in these in these
- 24:16Speaker 4: last couple of games.
- 24:17Speaker 2: So it's just.
- 24:21Speaker 4: It just it's just unfortunate. Sorry that was the Champions
- 24:24Speaker 4: League games, but just just to say, off off.
- 24:26Speaker 2: My head, but.
- 24:29Speaker 4: Just just not good enough. Uh, I don't know, I
- 24:32Speaker 4: don't know what the next move is. I know a
- 24:33Speaker 4: lot of people want phone sec out. I don't think
- 24:35Speaker 4: people want to phone second in.
- 24:36Speaker 2: To begin with, we we knew that he wasn't the
- 24:39Speaker 2: first choice.
- 24:40Speaker 3: Uh.
- 24:41Speaker 2: I think he was just.
- 24:43Speaker 4: The band aid solution that hopefully can take me on
- 24:48Speaker 4: to you know, still keep them in tough fo currently.
- 24:52Speaker 4: Like you said, Nick, or am I worried about Bohonia
- 24:54Speaker 4: ahead of me? And I mean it wasn't that game
- 24:56Speaker 4: in hand, so and that's against them, so that that's
- 24:58Speaker 4: a that's a huge game.
- 24:59Speaker 2: So we'll see how that pans out.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Uh.
- 25:03Speaker 2: But me on on paper should be doing a lot
- 25:04Speaker 2: better than than what they're doing.
- 25:07Speaker 4: It's on the pitch where it matters is where the
- 25:09Speaker 4: problems are. And unfortunately, unfortunately we're not seeing consistent results
- 25:15Speaker 4: weekend and week out.
- 25:15Speaker 2: We have to sweat.
- 25:16Speaker 4: We have to struggle for teams like and again no
- 25:20Speaker 4: disrespect to general, but to Genua, like it shouldn't be.
- 25:23Speaker 4: I know if you're listening to us, and it's no disrespect,
- 25:26Speaker 4: but it's just to say, like we shouldn't be struggling
- 25:28Speaker 4: against Genua. We played Friday against uh Verona. Do we
- 25:34Speaker 4: have to sweat for that. Hopefully not, but knowing me
- 25:37Speaker 4: one we probably will so well.
- 25:39Speaker 3: Verna is no push of our team, No they're not,
- 25:43Speaker 3: but they always tend to surprise, so we can't really
- 25:45Speaker 3: consider them, that's true.
- 25:46Speaker 1: And they're bringing dogs out before the game. Yeah, and
- 25:50Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the animals, their dogs.
- 25:54Speaker 2: D A W.
- 25:55Speaker 4: G right, that type of dog. But no, they should
- 25:59Speaker 4: have with the dogs, you know, the rescue dogs. We
- 26:03Speaker 4: are trying to get them home.
- 26:04Speaker 2: We all have to see that.
- 26:05Speaker 4: But again, I know they opened the season with that big,
- 26:09Speaker 4: big performance against not we but again we shouldn't have
- 26:13Speaker 4: to sweat with teams of that nature against the vet
- 26:16Speaker 4: owners of the world. So is my point, will we
- 26:19Speaker 4: probably should?
- 26:20Speaker 2: We know? I don't know. I just want to see
- 26:24Speaker 2: more consistency. I know players are not having their best season.
- 26:27Speaker 4: But you know, fans are just going crazy. I know
- 26:30Speaker 4: they want they want everybody out. They put banners, you know,
- 26:35Speaker 4: you know, outside outside the stadium at the hotel they
- 26:40Speaker 4: had a celebration for the one hundred and twenty fifth anniversary.
- 26:42Speaker 2: They were yelling.
- 26:43Speaker 4: It was just crazy, like certain players were getting we're
- 26:47Speaker 4: getting bashed and.
- 26:48Speaker 2: Certain players not cheered. Whatever it's just a mess.
- 26:53Speaker 4: I hope we can turn this page. I know the
- 26:55Speaker 4: new year is coming. We need to make it to
- 26:58Speaker 4: the new year. If not, it's going to be a
- 26:59Speaker 4: real disaster. The many fans were saying, if can eat
- 27:03Speaker 4: the pet on it, I don't know. I really don't.
- 27:07Speaker 4: We'll see, I guess. But my thing is also it's
- 27:11Speaker 4: like they want fun sec out, which again I'm not
- 27:14Speaker 4: a fan of him either.
- 27:16Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to defend from Zeca.
- 27:17Speaker 4: Because he's been up and down to but it's like
- 27:20Speaker 4: the real For me, it's like, what realistic option are
- 27:24Speaker 4: you going to bring in in January? I saw a
- 27:27Speaker 4: Shavi today is not going to really move the needle
- 27:31Speaker 4: for us. We're gonna have to change everything for a
- 27:34Speaker 4: guy like I think anyways, For me, it starts at
- 27:36Speaker 4: the top, from Cardinale down to Ebra and Company, who's
- 27:40Speaker 4: been doing a terrible job.
- 27:42Speaker 2: He's It just shows that legends on the pitch are not.
- 27:47Speaker 4: Always going to be uh, you know, amazing in front
- 27:50Speaker 4: office jobs.
- 27:52Speaker 2: It just clear. It reminds me. I mean, I'm not
- 27:55Speaker 2: going to compare Ebra to to win Gretzky, but it.
- 27:59Speaker 4: Shows the greatest player in hockey couldn't couldn't manage to
- 28:02Speaker 4: coach or GM or anything in the NHL, right, So
- 28:07Speaker 4: it's not always going to be uh a smooth transition.
- 28:11Speaker 4: And I don't think they've been doing an adequate enough
- 28:14Speaker 4: job for where this club wants to be, where they
- 28:16Speaker 4: should be, where they need to be. It's a it's
- 28:19Speaker 4: a mess. But I don't know if if Cardonawi decides
- 28:24Speaker 4: to sell and and decides to give up his uh
- 28:29Speaker 4: his his taking the pie, I don't think many fans
- 28:33Speaker 4: would be uh be too sad about it.
- 28:34Speaker 2: So we'll see what the future holds. I'm hoping for
- 28:36Speaker 2: a bright one.
- 28:37Speaker 4: But it's gonna still have to be manage our expectations
- 28:41Speaker 4: one game at a time, and uh, we'll see where
- 28:43Speaker 4: it goes.
- 28:43Speaker 2: And again it starts. It starts, uh Friday against Verona,
- 28:47Speaker 2: and I.
- 28:47Speaker 4: Don't pay people in the paper we're saying, oh yeah,
- 28:50Speaker 4: if if Vanseeca beats Verona, he keeps his job.
- 28:52Speaker 2: If he loses it, he's more in danger for his job.
- 28:55Speaker 4: If a game against Verona is deciding a manager's future,
- 28:59Speaker 4: like one.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Second, we have bigger problems than what we really know.
- 29:03Speaker 4: So all that to say, I'm hoping for some positivity
- 29:06Speaker 4: going forward into the all day break into the new year,
- 29:10Speaker 4: and uh, we need top four. That's that's the bottom line,
- 29:13Speaker 4: because clearly we can't fight for this Gudeto. Top four
- 29:16Speaker 4: is a is a bare minimum. And if we don't
- 29:18Speaker 4: get that, I think that's when maybe more of a worrisome.
- 29:22Speaker 2: You know, we don't want to go back to.
- 29:23Speaker 4: That rut of of consecutive years not doing doing well
- 29:27Speaker 4: and uh and any banter era situations. We don't want
- 29:31Speaker 4: to go back down to that. So top four is
- 29:34Speaker 4: a must, and I'm hoping to achieve that.
- 29:39Speaker 1: John, you're muted.
- 29:40Speaker 3: If you're gonna say something, I was gonna make a
- 29:43Speaker 3: joke and say, I think you guess you'd call Wayne Glenski,
- 29:45Speaker 3: not Wayne Gretzky.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Wayne Glenski, Wayne Glen Wayne glen Ski.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Uh yeah. And before we get into the end of
- 29:53Speaker 1: the year stuff, Jenny, look at roma schedule actually looks
- 29:56Speaker 1: pretty tough moving forward to towards the end of this year. Okay,
- 29:59Speaker 1: they played part of the this weekend, you know their
- 30:01Speaker 1: mid table team. They played me line. They played the
- 30:04Speaker 1: last show in the Derby on January fifth. January twelfth,
- 30:07Speaker 1: they played Bologna and then after that, you know it
- 30:10Speaker 1: kind of dies on Genua and then back to Europa League.
- 30:13Speaker 1: You didn't say Europa League, and then Napoli and then
- 30:15Speaker 1: again me line in February.
- 30:17Speaker 2: So they put me on when now.
- 30:20Speaker 1: December twenty ninth and February fifth. Okay, so tough little
- 30:25Speaker 1: stretch now for Roma for the next what six weeks?
- 30:28Speaker 2: I don't know how much do you expect, Jenny or.
- 30:29Speaker 1: Is it your heart's broken for Roma?
- 30:32Speaker 5: My heart's broken.
- 30:33Speaker 3: I'm just there, like, please don't go down to cityp
- 30:35Speaker 3: he's picking up the pieces.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
- 30:38Speaker 5: Last Christmas, I gave Roma my heart on the d
- 30:40Speaker 5: next day they gave it away.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Perfectly, said yeah.
- 30:45Speaker 3: So for me, it's just more like just you know,
- 30:48Speaker 3: find a way to like maintain the course or just.
- 30:53Speaker 5: Keep yourself afloat, stop like stoppable from sinking.
- 30:58Speaker 3: Because if even claud you would have had and you
- 31:00Speaker 3: can't even keep everything stable, and you know, there's a
- 31:02Speaker 3: fundamental issue, there's an issue with the foundation.
- 31:05Speaker 5: You know, you built, you built your your home on
- 31:09Speaker 5: very wet dirt, and it's just sinking into the ground
- 31:11Speaker 5: now you put it. You built it on swamp line.
- 31:13Speaker 2: So to speak.
- 31:14Speaker 5: So sorry it was drinking water for the listeners at home,
- 31:22Speaker 5: but that at this point, just I think you need
- 31:26Speaker 5: to like dig it up like.
- 31:27Speaker 3: The ruins, you know, just dig it up and and
- 31:31Speaker 3: just change it completely. I think I think something drastic
- 31:33Speaker 3: needs to happen at this point. Yeah, sure you want,
- 31:36Speaker 3: you want to cope, Dalia, but you beat a city
- 31:38Speaker 3: at B team, you should be the city of B team.
- 31:40Speaker 3: You know, I'm not going to be super celebrating like
- 31:44Speaker 3: how you vent his fans were celebrating to win against Calgary.
- 31:47Speaker 5: I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, just having some fun.
- 31:51Speaker 5: I need to cope with laughter.
- 31:53Speaker 2: They were hoping way too hard though to your credit.
- 31:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw I saw you out breeding the too
- 32:00Speaker 1: two draw versus Bologna because of the comeback from two
- 32:03Speaker 1: nail down.
- 32:06Speaker 3: I saw one of the worst Juve accounts actually make
- 32:09Speaker 3: a point that I had to agree with, and I
- 32:13Speaker 3: was stunned. I'm like, you know the meme where it's
- 32:14Speaker 3: like heartbreaking the world's worst person, you know, it's made
- 32:17Speaker 3: a great point type of thing. Well, this UVE account
- 32:21Speaker 3: basically quote tweeted another UV account that said, what a
- 32:25Speaker 3: world class performance by Lookalatelly world class player. And it's
- 32:28Speaker 3: like the word world class is just being thrown around
- 32:31Speaker 3: like nothing nowadays.
- 32:32Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 32:33Speaker 5: And I'm like and I'm like, oh my god, I
- 32:34Speaker 5: kin'd of believe I agree with this person.
- 32:36Speaker 2: This is amazing.
- 32:37Speaker 5: You could say you had a fantastic performance performance.
- 32:39Speaker 3: I'm not trying to discredit local look at Telly's performance,
- 32:42Speaker 3: but to call him work world class, it's like.
- 32:48Speaker 2: Something further from the truth. Man, that's that's crazy.
- 32:51Speaker 3: But yeah, if you had a good performance, you had
- 32:53Speaker 3: a good performance. There's not amount that taking that away
- 32:55Speaker 3: from him. I'm just saying, let's pump the breaks on
- 32:56Speaker 3: the words world class.
- 32:58Speaker 2: It's like goat like every but is the ghost now, yeah,
- 33:01Speaker 2: it can't be. How many ghosts can we have?
- 33:03Speaker 5: We're gona have a hurt, Like, yeah, exactly. They're gonna
- 33:06Speaker 5: climb mountains for us.
- 33:07Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, guys, I think they'll do it
- 33:14Speaker 1: for us. In terms of you know, this weekly recamt
- 33:16Speaker 1: but you know, end of year, we'd like to have
- 33:18Speaker 1: a tradition, you know, kind of going through the past
- 33:23Speaker 1: moments of the of the year. Disappointing year for the
- 33:28Speaker 1: Azuri right with the Euros and everything. Hopefully twenty twenty
- 33:32Speaker 1: five will bring some World Cup qualification.
- 33:35Speaker 7: Uh.
- 33:35Speaker 1: I forget the exact groups, but regardless of what's gonna
- 33:39Speaker 1: happen versus Germany, it seems like Italy there they're gonna
- 33:44Speaker 1: be in a group that they basically have to qualify.
- 33:46Speaker 2: Right.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Let me, let me just pull it up because.
- 33:49Speaker 2: There, if they win there.
- 33:52Speaker 1: They're in a group of four teams.
- 33:54Speaker 2: If they lose, they were in a group of five.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, let me pull this up.
- 33:59Speaker 2: But both of them, I agree, are you have to?
- 34:03Speaker 1: Yeah? So if they win the group of four with Slovakia,
- 34:06Speaker 1: Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland and Luxembourg, and then if they
- 34:10Speaker 1: lose a group of five with Norway, Israel, Estonia, Maldo Maldove.
- 34:15Speaker 1: I think the toughest team out of those is probably
- 34:17Speaker 1: Norway just because of haul in. Uh. But you know,
- 34:20Speaker 1: I want to see them beat Germany. You know, get
- 34:23Speaker 1: to the semi finals of the the Nations League, and
- 34:27Speaker 1: then you know, going that group of four you're on,
- 34:29Speaker 1: it's only six games, it's basically a sprint. Okay, sure,
- 34:32Speaker 1: the group of five it's eight games, stecure games, but
- 34:36Speaker 1: you know, six games is it's you know, six games
- 34:40Speaker 1: in the man of in the span of two months
- 34:42Speaker 1: in next fall. So hopefully twenty twenty five will bring
- 34:47Speaker 1: that for Italy. You know, besides our teams, what you've
- 34:50Speaker 1: won the Copia Italia and then enter one the school
- 34:52Speaker 1: that's none of our teams besides you be winning the
- 34:55Speaker 1: Cope Italia, won anything obviously, Okay, if you're not a
- 34:58Speaker 1: lot to fan, very good year in the Europa League.
- 35:02Speaker 1: But you know, if you guys had if you guys
- 35:05Speaker 1: had an MVP, let's start with m VP. If you
- 35:08Speaker 1: guys had an MVP, who to be? Because I might
- 35:11Speaker 1: I might as well start because I know who it
- 35:13Speaker 1: would be. I've you know, been saying his name for
- 35:17Speaker 1: a lot this year kind of tailed down in the
- 35:19Speaker 1: past few months, been shadowed, overshadowed by teammate. But it's
- 35:23Speaker 1: it's it is Lord Tower of Martinez. I would still
- 35:26Speaker 1: give him the MVP also, not only for what he
- 35:28Speaker 1: did with inter but also what he did with Argentina
- 35:31Speaker 1: at the Coptalia Copa America. Sorry five goals. He was,
- 35:37Speaker 1: you know, the golden moot winner there. I think it
- 35:39Speaker 1: was what thirty three goals or twenty three goals last
- 35:43Speaker 1: season in the City. I had his I had his
- 35:45Speaker 1: stats pulled up. Just im just gonna pull that up
- 35:49Speaker 1: one second. But I think he's still you know, if
- 35:53Speaker 1: you look at his work over the entire calendar year,
- 35:57Speaker 1: I think he's still the best player. I think think
- 36:00Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Turam, he's He's definitely in that conversation,
- 36:04Speaker 1: he's just he got hot too late in the year
- 36:07Speaker 1: for me, and yes, even Reta, you could throw his
- 36:12Speaker 1: name in the hand, but he right to gain. Turam
- 36:15Speaker 1: are more in line to be MVPs for the City
- 36:18Speaker 1: last season. But if you look at twenty twenty four
- 36:20Speaker 1: as a whole, sorry, twenty four goals for Loa Taro
- 36:24Speaker 1: last year. I don't know how many got in the
- 36:27Speaker 1: twenty twenty four calendar year, but he has already six
- 36:30Speaker 1: this year. You know, low number for him, but like
- 36:33Speaker 1: I said, five at the Copa America Argentina. So for me,
- 36:35Speaker 1: he's the MVP. How about you, guys, I was gonna go.
- 36:41Speaker 2: Johnny, you had one.
- 36:42Speaker 5: No, I just can't disagree.
- 36:43Speaker 3: I think, honestly speaking, I would say it's Martinez as well,
- 36:46Speaker 3: with Raam as a close second.
- 36:47Speaker 5: Martinez just to throw in more stats.
- 36:50Speaker 3: You know, Lotado for the for towards the end of
- 36:53Speaker 3: the year, and this year, you know he's got, he's
- 36:56Speaker 3: got he's got the most goals with with Teram right
- 36:59Speaker 3: behind him by a small margin. So if we're calling
- 37:02Speaker 3: at the calendar year, it's definitely about Thattle.
- 37:04Speaker 5: Martinez is MVP.
- 37:06Speaker 2: Go ahead, Adri.
- 37:07Speaker 4: No, I listen, I'll throw a different name, just I
- 37:10Speaker 4: don't want to be repetitive three times in a row here.
- 37:13Speaker 2: But you can't.
- 37:16Speaker 4: Unfortunately, you can't deny the stats and you can't deny
- 37:19Speaker 4: the performances from a.
- 37:20Speaker 2: Guy like Latro Martinez.
- 37:21Speaker 4: So his name and that shout is obviously a good one, uh,
- 37:25Speaker 4: for club and country, for Inter Argentina, UH, even dating
- 37:30Speaker 4: back to even the World Cup, right Like he's been
- 37:33Speaker 4: on he's been on a tear.
- 37:34Speaker 2: Now for for for a little while, so.
- 37:37Speaker 4: Has his depths, has his moments. But again, a player
- 37:40Speaker 4: that when he's hot and when he's on.
- 37:41Speaker 2: It's it seems like he's unstoppable. But I'll throw another name, uh, just.
- 37:46Speaker 4: For to mix it up again another unfortunately another black
- 37:51Speaker 4: and blue UH player in terms of the club he
- 37:55Speaker 4: plays for.
- 37:56Speaker 2: But I'm gonna put Lukman. I don't know, Ukeman.
- 37:59Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, lookman, uh, maybe it's more of a
- 38:03Speaker 4: recency bias. It is possible because of us, some guys.
- 38:05Speaker 4: I don't know all the stats. I didn't go through there.
- 38:07Speaker 4: I didn't go.
- 38:08Speaker 5: I didn't go that's that's that's a good point.
- 38:10Speaker 2: I didn't do all that.
- 38:11Speaker 4: But what I will say is that just what an
- 38:14Speaker 4: influential player for Atalanta, A player that really revitalizes his
- 38:20Speaker 4: his career at Atalanta, A player that was a throwaway
- 38:25Speaker 4: in England, the scene that nobody wanted him, just a
- 38:28Speaker 4: disaster back in England, and he comes to Italy. He
- 38:31Speaker 4: comes to Atalanta and just shines like a diamond. You know,
- 38:36Speaker 4: the goals, the assists, the just even if he's not
- 38:39Speaker 4: on the score she just the performances he's in the
- 38:41Speaker 4: build up play. He's just such an influential player for
- 38:45Speaker 4: for how Atalanta play. You know, Europa League winner scoring
- 38:52Speaker 4: what was it a bracerick?
- 38:57Speaker 2: Right?
- 38:57Speaker 4: People that he scored three goals in the in your
- 39:00Speaker 4: Europa League final, Like I don't know the list of
- 39:03Speaker 4: players who have done that, Like if there is, I
- 39:05Speaker 4: don't even know.
- 39:06Speaker 2: But that's that's an accomplishment for a guy I.
- 39:08Speaker 4: Got the moment, so uh and now just recently being named,
- 39:12Speaker 4: uh the African Player of the Year as well.
- 39:15Speaker 2: So not only you know, are you being recognized.
- 39:19Speaker 4: For your club, uh you know, award for your for
- 39:23Speaker 4: your country.
- 39:24Speaker 2: Uh, for your for your continent, never mind your country,
- 39:27Speaker 2: like he represents Nigeria.
- 39:29Speaker 4: But he's the best African player in UH that that
- 39:34Speaker 4: was named this year.
- 39:35Speaker 2: So uh, it's for me.
- 39:38Speaker 4: It's a player that I don't know another another sneaky
- 39:43Speaker 4: Atalanta buy that I think just has been continuously paying off, uh,
- 39:48Speaker 4: game by game, week by week, year by year. So
- 39:51Speaker 4: for me, I'm gonna throw his name into the hat
- 39:53Speaker 4: into the m v P category on the show tonight.
- 39:56Speaker 2: But again it's hard.
- 39:58Speaker 4: To not it's hard to go against to my teams obviously,
- 40:01Speaker 4: but if I have to say somebody different, just to
- 40:03Speaker 4: mix it up, I'm going to say I had the
- 40:04Speaker 4: mole lookman in Frontalanta.
- 40:07Speaker 1: That's a great pick. Honestly, they didn't even you know,
- 40:12Speaker 1: crossed my mind. And but you know, African Player of
- 40:15Speaker 1: the Year that that was that's pretty big too.
- 40:17Speaker 2: It's huge. It's huge.
- 40:18Speaker 1: It is huge.
- 40:19Speaker 4: It's huge because you know, you know, with some of
- 40:23Speaker 4: the players that have won that award over the years,
- 40:26Speaker 4: some of these African players that we've seen throughout the year,
- 40:28Speaker 4: it's just constant legends that have come out of the
- 40:31Speaker 4: African continent. It's just it's crazy. And listen he he.
- 40:35Speaker 4: I think there was a quot. I don't remember the
- 40:37Speaker 4: whole quote, but it said something along the lines like
- 40:39Speaker 4: the world saw me fail and now they're seeing me succeed,
- 40:41Speaker 4: and it's just it's it's crazy because he really was
- 40:45Speaker 4: an afterthought after in England he didn't it.
- 40:47Speaker 2: Was it Everton was it.
- 40:48Speaker 4: I forget what team he was on, but it was
- 40:50Speaker 4: he didn't perform. He scored what six goals in a
- 40:54Speaker 4: matter of three years or something. That was some crazy numbers.
- 40:56Speaker 4: And then he comes over to Italy. No one has
- 40:59Speaker 4: more of a defensive tactic league and he's killing it.
- 41:02Speaker 4: So obviously there's something there and I think he deserves uh,
- 41:07Speaker 4: he deserves the praise.
- 41:08Speaker 2: So yeah, for me, Like I said, it's it's a lookman,
- 41:10Speaker 2: m VP Johnny, do you have a no.
- 41:16Speaker 5: I think it's a fair shout.
- 41:17Speaker 3: I think a lookman's t trick with the in Europa
- 41:19Speaker 3: League to get Atlanta the first international trophy, and the
- 41:22Speaker 3: fact that he's been consistently good for them from last
- 41:24Speaker 3: year and this year, I think is a great point
- 41:26Speaker 3: that Adri brought up. So that's another consideration consideration, but
- 41:30Speaker 3: I still lead towards Lotao. But Lookman is a very
- 41:36Speaker 3: very very good argument.
- 41:39Speaker 4: And then who knows, like who like whoever ends up
- 41:41Speaker 4: winning the school that's this year. I mean, like, listen,
- 41:43Speaker 4: that's another like Atlanta is there, maybe it's their year.
- 41:46Speaker 2: Who knows, Like in there is obviously still in there,
- 41:48Speaker 2: So we'll see.
- 41:49Speaker 4: And I'm still throwing it up with but just to say,
- 41:51Speaker 4: I don't know, it's it's hard to it's hard to
- 41:53Speaker 4: say what's better or worse. I think both are good shouts.
- 41:57Speaker 4: Maybe what the viewers the side of. Maybe we'll clip this,
- 42:01Speaker 4: but yeah, I think Lataro, Martinez Automo Lookman from the
- 42:05Speaker 4: culture guys MVPs.
- 42:07Speaker 2: That's where we stand.
- 42:11Speaker 1: You know, we kind of talked talked about it off air,
- 42:13Speaker 1: thinking of coming up with a combined eleven. I don't know,
- 42:17Speaker 1: it's tough because there's a lot of good players in
- 42:19Speaker 1: the city, right, how many of them are truly Like,
- 42:23Speaker 1: first of all, how many of them are world class.
- 42:25Speaker 1: Not a lot, right, you know. I know we talked
- 42:28Speaker 1: about this world class.
- 42:30Speaker 2: None is none possible.
- 42:31Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, world class A lot of Yeah,
- 42:37Speaker 1: A lot of people keep calling the Marco with the
- 42:39Speaker 1: best left back in the world. I don't know. I
- 42:42Speaker 1: don't think he is, but I don't know who is.
- 42:44Speaker 1: You know, Brella for me, is still up there. In
- 42:48Speaker 1: terms of midfield, there's definitely not the best in the world.
- 42:51Speaker 1: If you're going to make a starting level.
- 42:53Speaker 3: We're talking about best in the world. That's the world class.
- 42:58Speaker 4: That's the thing with world like everybody which everybody has
- 43:01Speaker 4: their their own definition of world class.
- 43:04Speaker 3: Well yeah, no, but you definitely Betilla is definitely world class.
- 43:07Speaker 3: World class my definition, I think I was discussing with
- 43:09Speaker 3: Jordan once a good front of the show, and he
- 43:12Speaker 3: said the best definition for world class is a player
- 43:15Speaker 3: that can walk on any team starting eleven. If the
- 43:18Speaker 3: player can go on any team and be a part
- 43:20Speaker 3: of their starting eleven, they're considered world class and badalla
- 43:24Speaker 3: in my eyes, there's nothing like this, Like there's not
- 43:26Speaker 3: a team that has three midfielders that out or like
- 43:30Speaker 3: three to four midfielders that will you know, make Badalla
- 43:34Speaker 3: sit on the bench. You know what I'm saying, Like,
- 43:36Speaker 3: there's there's I don't I don't think there's a team.
- 43:38Speaker 3: I could be completely wrong, And if I'm completely wrong,
- 43:41Speaker 3: I hope somebody writes a comment, improves it or provides
- 43:45Speaker 3: an argument against. But I really have a hard time
- 43:47Speaker 3: thinking of more of the more known clubs of the
- 43:50Speaker 3: world where Badela doesn't start under starting eleven. I won't
- 43:53Speaker 3: say he's going to be their best player. I'm not
- 43:55Speaker 3: saying that, but in terms of his position and where
- 43:58Speaker 3: he would where he can play, and where you go.
- 44:00Speaker 5: But Ella is the only one that could probably argue
- 44:02Speaker 5: that he's world class.
- 44:04Speaker 3: Everyone else, like DeMarco, there might be teams that you
- 44:08Speaker 3: can argue that, Okay, well, because he plays in such
- 44:11Speaker 3: a specific position, right, and that's where that's where he
- 44:15Speaker 3: getshart because if he was at Bayern, right, it's like,
- 44:18Speaker 3: do you think he plays better?
- 44:19Speaker 5: Do you think he replaced Davies.
- 44:22Speaker 3: That's a good question, honestly, That's what I'm saying, Like
- 44:25Speaker 3: that's maybe me like maybe.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Just because D's just because I know he's kind of
- 44:30Speaker 1: like in and out of the starting line up there,
- 44:32Speaker 1: so maybe you know.
- 44:33Speaker 2: No, it's an argument. It's definitely an argument.
- 44:35Speaker 1: Should he's probably not. Maybe maybe let's look.
- 44:39Speaker 3: At let's just look at city out for example, and
- 44:42Speaker 3: in Adri bias aside.
- 44:44Speaker 5: Let's just put bias aside. Would you rather Tayo or
- 44:47Speaker 5: would you rather DeMarco?
- 44:50Speaker 4: I'm gonna and now people are gonna say, other day,
- 44:53Speaker 4: you're biased.
- 44:54Speaker 2: I'm still gonna takeing on this exactly. But what I
- 45:00Speaker 2: think DeMarco DeMarco is a fantastic point.
- 45:05Speaker 4: When we see him for fatly, it's it's it's it's
- 45:07Speaker 4: out of this world. I saw him live back in
- 45:10Speaker 4: October when I was there at Olypico. Just the past
- 45:13Speaker 4: he made to to Cambiaso incredible. I'm still going to
- 45:18Speaker 4: take Taylornandez. I think his speed, his his his his physicality,
- 45:24Speaker 4: his his his ability to go coast to coast, it's
- 45:28Speaker 4: just unheard of. I mean, he doesn't stop. He needs
- 45:32Speaker 4: what I think DeMarco has better than him.
- 45:37Speaker 2: I think he's better defensively, Uh for sure, I would say.
- 45:41Speaker 4: But if I would have to really choose mine to man,
- 45:44Speaker 4: I'm gonna still take Taylornandez.
- 45:46Speaker 2: I think he's just a force that is it's almost unstoppable.
- 45:51Speaker 5: And it's a fair shout.
- 45:52Speaker 8: It's a fair shot because because like Taylor has certain
- 45:55Speaker 8: factors that you that you brought up that DeMarco doesn't have.
- 45:58Speaker 8: I will, one person and vice, I will one hundred
- 46:02Speaker 8: percent say that DeMarco obviously has a starting spot in
- 46:05Speaker 8: Roma or Anapoli.
- 46:06Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be biased. I think Demnicca would probably
- 46:09Speaker 5: be the best. You would be the best like left
- 46:12Speaker 5: back for either team.
- 46:13Speaker 3: And I even even like when was having his like
- 46:17Speaker 3: his mental games like before, like even pre pre this year,
- 46:21Speaker 3: and like no, no, no, I would still take Demonco
- 46:23Speaker 3: that versus Madu Lui from then.
- 46:25Speaker 5: You know, that's just me because I'm not big fan
- 46:27Speaker 5: of Matui. But uh but.
- 46:30Speaker 3: That's that's yeah. But like like that's what I mean,
- 46:34Speaker 3: Like it's Demonco there. It's like it's like you can't
- 46:37Speaker 3: mind you he does. He has the unfortunate uh stat
- 46:44Speaker 3: of like playing in a very specific position. You could
- 46:47Speaker 3: argue you could probably put him as a left wing
- 46:49Speaker 3: back if you want.
- 46:50Speaker 1: There you give him more.
- 46:52Speaker 4: Ut you're talking about you're saying, yeah, DeMarco, Yeah, yeah,
- 46:55Speaker 4: the left way.
- 46:56Speaker 2: That's that's where.
- 46:57Speaker 9: That's yeah, I'm talking about like left back, left wing back,
- 47:00Speaker 9: you know, so to speak like he has obviously you
- 47:01Speaker 9: have both options. I was just saying left back to
- 47:04Speaker 9: have the generic position and if you want to be
- 47:06Speaker 9: more specific as a left wing back. Sure, Now you
- 47:09Speaker 9: probably have an opportunity to include him in every lineup
- 47:12Speaker 9: because now he's becoming more it's becoming a bit more
- 47:14Speaker 9: part of the midfield rather than the back line, you know,
- 47:17Speaker 9: like he still supports the back line, but now he's
- 47:18Speaker 9: now he has more of a role in the mid
- 47:21Speaker 9: But that's such a niche position that you're mid.
- 47:24Speaker 3: That means you're playing five guys in your mid at least.
- 47:27Speaker 3: So that's that's where it's it becomes a bit more
- 47:31Speaker 3: of a specification. But you would definitely when you have
- 47:34Speaker 3: a guy like de Monco, try to find a way
- 47:36Speaker 3: to use them on your roster. We can, we can
- 47:38Speaker 3: agree with that, but if if we're looking for one
- 47:41Speaker 3: for one swaps, you have cases even in Sidia Ah,
- 47:45Speaker 3: where you just are like, like you consider it, you're
- 47:49Speaker 3: a bit but Barella Babella on any team and say yeah,
- 47:52Speaker 3: go ahead, start like like I feel like Beadella is
- 47:55Speaker 3: more of a no brainer In Sadia, and I feel
- 47:57Speaker 3: like Beadella is a no brainer on any team, and
- 47:59Speaker 3: any of the more popular teams in Europe. Like I said,
- 48:02Speaker 3: there might be a case where it's like, I'm just
- 48:03Speaker 3: not thinking of a team right now that has like
- 48:05Speaker 3: three or four guys that you'd rather start in the
- 48:07Speaker 3: midfield over batt I don't think there's any team I.
- 48:10Speaker 4: Think maybe if I would maybe think of a team
- 48:13Speaker 4: just off the top of my head, maybe Real Madrid,
- 48:16Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 48:16Speaker 1: And yeah, probably just Real.
- 48:21Speaker 4: Uh who else do they have Valverde, who I rate
- 48:25Speaker 4: a lot, like Okay, let's.
- 48:28Speaker 8: Look at their midst They put Tony cruzired.
- 48:33Speaker 1: You're right, they played.
- 48:37Speaker 5: So you have Jude, you have Camvinga, you have of Madrid.
- 48:43Speaker 4: I think he's I think he's I would if I
- 48:46Speaker 4: were to say, this is just on the top of
- 48:47Speaker 4: my head.
- 48:47Speaker 2: But if I were to say I.
- 48:49Speaker 4: Would, and for me, well, Jude is Jude, Yeah, no
- 48:54Speaker 4: worries about it, Hey, Jude, he's.
- 48:56Speaker 2: There, right, Yeah, there, definitely.
- 49:02Speaker 6: I would put I would put Bardela overcome A Vinga
- 49:06Speaker 6: and Tue Many Yeah, But I don't think I would
- 49:09Speaker 6: put in my head of Jude or mad and maybe Valverde.
- 49:15Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm saying, Like you're still like,
- 49:19Speaker 3: now we follow the team with a solid mids.
- 49:21Speaker 4: But that's that's an argument, right, that's yeah, the argument
- 49:23Speaker 4: like can he and what what he? And some people
- 49:26Speaker 4: will say yes, absolutely, and some people will say, well,
- 49:29Speaker 4: maybe he's that third fourth guy or maybe yeah he
- 49:32Speaker 4: starts no problem.
- 49:34Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know.
- 49:36Speaker 3: Maybe I'm very late to the party, but I just
- 49:37Speaker 3: realized that I'm looking at it rids roster the assistant
- 49:40Speaker 3: coach for for realit's David Ancelotti.
- 49:43Speaker 2: Maybe I'm very late to the party.
- 49:45Speaker 5: Wait, I know, I know, I just I'm sorry.
- 49:48Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 49:49Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he was supposed to know.
- 49:50Speaker 5: All the assistant coaches of every team.
- 49:52Speaker 1: But he was there with I was gonna say it
- 49:55Speaker 1: wasn't the assistant and I don't know.
- 49:57Speaker 2: If he was, that was his role, but he was, Yeah,
- 49:59Speaker 2: he was.
- 50:00Speaker 1: He was there.
- 50:00Speaker 3: But like obviously once they left, I'm like, okay, cool,
- 50:02Speaker 3: Like forget, I knew we're at Glotti went, I didn't
- 50:04Speaker 3: know where. Maybe, but this doesn't have to follow him, you.
- 50:09Speaker 2: Know, it's easy, it's a tail to stand on.
- 50:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand on guys, what you know, one thing
- 50:18Speaker 1: I just wanted to say. You know, the FIFA, the
- 50:21Speaker 1: FIFA Pro World eleven came out recently and it's interesting
- 50:25Speaker 1: because you know goalkeepers Edison, Defensers, Van Dyk, Rudiger, Ca, Coval,
- 50:32Speaker 1: mid belliham Cruz actually made it, Rodrie and de Bruyan
- 50:35Speaker 1: and then up front Venecio's Holland and Membappe. But you know,
- 50:39Speaker 1: we're talking about this whole left back debate, not a
- 50:41Speaker 1: same there's no left back there last year's last year's edition,
- 50:45Speaker 1: there was no left back. Twenty twenty two, there was
- 50:47Speaker 1: no left back, left back, the left The last left
- 50:50Speaker 1: back to be included in the in the Best eleven
- 50:53Speaker 1: was David Alba in twenty twenty one and before that
- 50:55Speaker 1: was the Fonso Davies in twenty twenty. So you know,
- 50:58Speaker 1: that left back position world wise, worldwide, there's not a
- 51:01Speaker 1: lot of superstars. So you know, you can't make that
- 51:04Speaker 1: argument between Tail and DeMarco who's the best one in
- 51:06Speaker 1: the world. You know, throwing Alfonso debuts as well. But uh,
- 51:10Speaker 1: you know, back to you know best eleven of the city.
- 51:14Speaker 1: You know, I think I think you gotta you know
- 51:17Speaker 1: include obviously inter players all over for me, obviously the
- 51:23Speaker 1: Mark wombrella there there. I would even put Turam, both
- 51:25Speaker 1: Turam and and la Taro Hacken. Hey, I know Adream
- 51:30Speaker 1: may not might not like that selection, but you can
- 51:33Speaker 1: even throw Hockend's name in. But you know, who's the
- 51:37Speaker 1: best goalkeeper in in twenty twenty four. That one's up
- 51:40Speaker 1: for debate. Other best defenders. I would even throw in Bramer.
- 51:44Speaker 1: Unfortunate that he got his you know, is knee injured.
- 51:49Speaker 1: I think it was in October, but goes to show
- 51:52Speaker 1: him you've been without him. The defense is kind of
- 51:55Speaker 1: a disaster, right.
- 51:56Speaker 2: Both the numbers. Man that those numbers, I would allow
- 51:58Speaker 2: it to see them, numbers with them and with them out.
- 52:00Speaker 1: Is just that alone, just that alone. He has to
- 52:03Speaker 1: he has to be on the best eleven. Yeah, I
- 52:07Speaker 1: don't know, guys, do you have any any other players?
- 52:10Speaker 2: Goalkeeper? I don't know. Goalkeeper is tough.
- 52:13Speaker 5: I think I find ten d's are subjective at this
- 52:18Speaker 5: point in soccer.
- 52:20Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it depends on their their defense. You know, yes,
- 52:27Speaker 1: you could throw in Summer, but you know, is he
- 52:32Speaker 1: the best? I think I think?
- 52:34Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, there's a couple of is it the
- 52:38Speaker 4: best statistically, is it the best talent wise?
- 52:41Speaker 2: Is it the best? You rate that the list goes on.
- 52:44Speaker 4: I think like you can put in man there, Yeah,
- 52:47Speaker 4: exactly say that right, like Nelon didn't have maybe the
- 52:51Speaker 4: season that they wanted, and maybe the statistics are not
- 52:53Speaker 4: all there, but this guy time and time again he
- 52:56Speaker 4: makes that save, right, like what keeper is going to
- 52:59Speaker 4: make that safe? And that time we say, right, we
- 53:02Speaker 4: saw it even itaway against France, right that keen opportunity
- 53:06Speaker 4: of the last seconds of that of that game. Who
- 53:08Speaker 4: made that save at Sancio It was Mike Manyang who
- 53:11Speaker 4: made that time we save. Unfortunately, he every year he
- 53:14Speaker 4: seems to go down with some sort of injury every year.
- 53:18Speaker 2: It's it's it's crazy, but.
- 53:20Speaker 4: Uh, you know, going back to even a guy like
- 53:23Speaker 4: Don Roma who unfortunately we saw his face today just
- 53:27Speaker 4: a crazy incident against Monaco and Liger. We we hope
- 53:31Speaker 4: for him to have a good recovery because his face
- 53:35Speaker 4: looked like it was disgusting what we saw and I
- 53:38Speaker 4: saw a clip it was it was not fun. But
- 53:41Speaker 4: going back to Onmo's and say I making those time
- 53:43Speaker 4: we saved and you know, I know in hockey, that
- 53:45Speaker 4: that that that work comes around a lot, you know,
- 53:48Speaker 4: with keepers, you know, making these these these these big saves,
- 53:52Speaker 4: these time we saves at the right time, the right moment.
- 53:54Speaker 2: They're there who you can count on.
- 53:56Speaker 4: Some people are gonna say Manion, But then you go
- 53:58Speaker 4: statistically and you go to a guy like Summer. You
- 54:01Speaker 4: know this this year, obviously, dig Gordio is having statistically
- 54:05Speaker 4: a great year. He's made some great saves, don't get
- 54:07Speaker 4: me wrong, but he's there, right carne Seki. This is
- 54:11Speaker 4: a recency thing, but he's having some great moments now
- 54:14Speaker 4: with at Delanta. So I think, like I agree with
- 54:17Speaker 4: Johnny's very subjective. People all have their very various opinions,
- 54:21Speaker 4: and there there are ways of going about it. I
- 54:24Speaker 4: would just I would throw in Manya's name because I think,
- 54:27Speaker 4: like the whole package I think is there from you know,
- 54:31Speaker 4: time we save with his he can play with the ball.
- 54:34Speaker 2: With his feet, you know, his reflexes.
- 54:37Speaker 4: He's the only knock that he has is unfortunately he
- 54:40Speaker 4: gets he gets a knock. He's always he always has
- 54:42Speaker 4: an injury out a certain point of the year, first
- 54:45Speaker 4: a specific period of time, and then he comes back
- 54:47Speaker 4: and you know, tries to save me on again, but
- 54:50Speaker 4: I would throw in, you know, Manya's.
- 54:53Speaker 2: Name into that, into that top eleven if if I could, and.
- 54:59Speaker 1: Then I'll just dee Gregorio. Then we're just gonna throw.
- 55:05Speaker 2: Alex marat So I don't know what you're saying he
- 55:08Speaker 2: has the most.
- 55:09Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Honestlyorio is the show too. You know,
- 55:13Speaker 1: he won the goalkeeper of the season last season with
- 55:15Speaker 1: Manza comes over to you and you know, again it's
- 55:19Speaker 1: so hard to judge goalkeepers because yes, he's a lot
- 55:23Speaker 1: more goals recently, but a lot of it's really not
- 55:26Speaker 1: his fault, right, bad defense, you know. But at the
- 55:30Speaker 1: same time, he hasn't he hasn't exactly stolen a game yet.
- 55:34Speaker 1: I know he had a big save the other day
- 55:36Speaker 1: against Cality, but.
- 55:38Speaker 2: Even against City then I saw, yes, yes, a nice.
- 55:42Speaker 1: Towards the end against City too, but those aren't moments
- 55:45Speaker 1: where the game was stolen because you know, so it's tough.
- 55:48Speaker 1: It's tough, Johnny. I don't know, do you have any
- 55:51Speaker 1: other players you'd consider for his best eleven? This is
- 55:55Speaker 1: informal college, you guys. Best eleven?
- 55:58Speaker 2: Other positions are just keeper?
- 56:01Speaker 1: Anything?
- 56:01Speaker 2: Yeah, anything, Johnny? What you say, I don't know where the.
- 56:05Speaker 1: Forwards again to hear them, I guess I gave a
- 56:08Speaker 1: show to Lotaro Tom you know, let's let's throw in,
- 56:14Speaker 1: let's throw on Red Tiggy.
- 56:16Speaker 5: No, but like what were the other they had the
- 56:17Speaker 5: forwards in the like the the and then the eleven
- 56:22Speaker 5: that you gave it was the world one.
- 56:25Speaker 1: In the World, Vinicius Holland and Mamape.
- 56:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's hard. I don't.
- 56:33Speaker 3: I don't know, like if there's anybody else, like a
- 56:36Speaker 3: b off the top of my head that I could say,
- 56:37Speaker 3: like put them in there.
- 56:39Speaker 4: I mean, while you're talking, Nick, you're talking about we're
- 56:43Speaker 4: talking about Yeah, we' talk about world.
- 56:44Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's why I thought.
- 56:46Speaker 2: Sorry that only Yeah, uh what for forwards? Yeah, Lotto,
- 56:51Speaker 2: the Red Taggi, Lukeman.
- 56:54Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Keen is too recent to is too recent.
- 57:00Speaker 2: I agree.
- 57:01Speaker 3: We can maybe say that Orcelini gets a shout out
- 57:05Speaker 3: last year, Yeah, for last year and this year he's
- 57:08Speaker 3: doing okay, given the fact that he lost a lot
- 57:10Speaker 3: on quality.
- 57:11Speaker 2: He's got injured too now, so yeah, it's an ideal. Yeah,
- 57:16Speaker 2: he deserves a shout. At least I'm trying to think
- 57:19Speaker 2: other midfielders maybe, or defenders. Bastoni.
- 57:29Speaker 5: Bastoni is a great shout Bastoni.
- 57:32Speaker 2: I think is it almost seems always about Bastoni.
- 57:35Speaker 1: Let's go Baser, the Triple Bees, the Triple Bes, at
- 57:39Speaker 1: least the center back. Our teams are getting like fifteen
- 57:42Speaker 1: sixteen players at this point, but you know it's allowing
- 57:45Speaker 1: it we need.
- 57:46Speaker 3: But I'm trying to think, like, honestly, I don't really
- 57:48Speaker 3: seem much more to add, you know, like even bud
- 57:52Speaker 3: Jono himself, I I I.
- 57:56Speaker 5: I'd be too like, I'm not too like he was.
- 58:00Speaker 2: He was great.
- 58:01Speaker 4: He was great with with Torino, and he had what
- 58:05Speaker 4: was that there was a stat he had like the
- 58:07Speaker 4: most duels want I believe as a center back, as
- 58:09Speaker 4: a defender. Sorry for Torino if I'm not mistaken, don't
- 58:13Speaker 4: quote me because I don't remember. But and then he
- 58:15Speaker 4: came into that point and again, yeah, he's had maybe
- 58:18Speaker 4: his off games, but I think he's still been a rock.
- 58:20Speaker 2: I don't know he's really improved.
- 58:22Speaker 5: You're still rock.
- 58:24Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all still going to rock. But no, I
- 58:27Speaker 2: don't know. I think he's still listen, He's no, he's not.
- 58:31Speaker 4: But stony he's he's not but stony when I said,
- 58:38Speaker 4: he can be bunning off too if he wants. But
- 58:40Speaker 4: right now, right so that's that's where he is.
- 58:43Speaker 2: He's there. I don't know, Uh, throw his name in there,
- 58:49Speaker 2: you know, I don't know Reindeers, reinders for for Milan.
- 58:53Speaker 2: I know it's it's been.
- 58:54Speaker 4: It's been incredible. Uh maybe more of a recent thing,
- 58:58Speaker 4: but he's been incredible. I think even postage I think
- 59:00Speaker 4: should be thrown in there as another name. Captain America.
- 59:04Speaker 4: I think he's uh, he's I mean, unfortunately now that
- 59:08Speaker 4: he got injured, but he's he's shown since he came
- 59:11Speaker 4: in to said, yeah that he's been he's a force.
- 59:13Speaker 4: So yeah, I would throw him in there, Uh, for
- 59:18Speaker 4: for sure. I don't know what I'm trying to think.
- 59:22Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of other mids besides like the
- 59:25Speaker 4: Barillas of the world, and besides of is there I
- 59:29Speaker 4: don't even know, like besides charl Ogul, which I don't
- 59:32Speaker 4: want a name, but Nickel name.
- 59:33Speaker 2: Him for me.
- 59:36Speaker 7: I I'm I'm maybe I'm blanking, but I don't know, Uh,
- 59:45Speaker 7: trying to think like who we put like kind of
- 59:47Speaker 7: like even like last year's like team of the season
- 59:50Speaker 7: and my team of the Year and all.
- 59:51Speaker 1: That, the couch the city awards like best Keeper, DiGregorio,
- 59:57Speaker 1: Best Defender, Bustoni, best Man hot Con, best Strike reduce San,
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: Best Young Player erk Uh and then the m v
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: P was Lo Taro.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: Besides, besides, like the Cola Fiordes and like the in
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: the world, we're not no longer no six months like
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: they were good for six months. Doesn't care. That's that's true.
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: That's true. But I had an influential uh you know,
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: display with them. But yeah, no, I think uh so
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: in goal, who would we say?
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: I would say, man, I don't think whatever agree on
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: this one will never agree. It's okay, so we'll say
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: Manya slash Summer slash not Meret defenders, the triple bs.
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: I think we can agree.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: And then you got to throw in two wing backs,
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: Marco and Hernan. You got you got two goalkeepers and nets.
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: You got five defenders. We got how many?
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: How many? So we got two minutes? How many minutes
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: we need?
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: Now we're going two minds. How can umbrella screw? Okay,
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: unless unless you can't pull such as a mid uh
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: well as a cam Yeah, okay, he's a mid in
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: our in our case.
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: As a cam he can fit as a camera, and
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: then the tour striker, the too attackers or Lataro and.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: No you said so turam off the bench. Who's the coach?
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: Who would be the coach just.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: Because he won the.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: Or like just because I love him Bustard, both of them,
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: or maybe Gasparini. I don't know.
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I would probably Sayini to be honest with you,
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: especially with how he continues this year as well. You
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: know he's bringing out Tolanta into a legit scudetto position.
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: He went to Europa League and now you're contending for
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: the league title. I think Gasperini gets the shout for
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: the calendar year.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: Of the coach, the coach fromager. Yeah, that's.
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: Yeah, it's between I think. I mean, it's not like
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: open a side. It's between Gus Pardini and orn Zagie
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: Gasperini for sure, allegedly. Maybe that's what me one needs.
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: Maybe me one needs alleged.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: I don't know, to save the season. I don't know, guys.
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: I'm I'm losing it with one seconds. It's crazy.
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: So you heard it here first.
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: On the culture guys, but uh, yeah, that we had
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: we're going to name or anything else. I don't know.
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: I think I think, I think that kind of covers
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: it for the best eleven Uh yeah, bench guys, Yeah, yeah,
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: that's fifteen best. We can't make any best that twenty
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: two because we can't make a decision.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: Well when when can Italians make decisions? Nay? They have
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: all more?
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, guys, before we head into twenty twenty five.
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: If there was this is the this is crazy. I
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: can't believe we've already come to the last of it's crazy.
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: Uh, fifty one episode fifty one before twenty twenty five.
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: So quarter mark of the century is pretty pretty crazy,
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: but not the quarter mark. Yeah, the quarter market is. Yeah,
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: that makes it quarter mark of the century twenty five years, centuries,
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: one hundred. Yeah, if you guys, if you're.
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: We're smart guys, I trust Oh that's another thing you
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: want to I know what you're gonna say, but go ahead.
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if you had a New Year's resolution
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: for your team, what would it be? What would it be?
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Because I think mine, mine's easy for you ads win.
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: Stop drawing. Draws are boring, man, You know, like you
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: finished the game exactly how it started with.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: You didn't even even have a up sometimes even.
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: Number of going. You know, like, okay, sure to two
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: draws better than a zero zero game. Sure, but like
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: I want to see I want to see winners and losers.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: Yere.
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: You know, we're not about giving up participation trophies one
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: point each, guys. We need some three points even if
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: you've loses it.
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: That's okay.
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: You know, at least if they lose, it'll put some
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: more pressure, more pressure on on Matan management to do something,
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: because now they're just using an excuse, Oh, we haven't won,
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: we haven't lost the game. Yeah, but you've also drawn
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: ten won six in the city. That's crazy. Sixteen games
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: and they've only won six. If if you told me
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season that sixteen games in
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: you would only win six games, I'd be like, hey,
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: where are the eleven twelve in the table? No, okay,
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: they're in six. So they're still in control of their
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: own destiny, right, but it's frustrating.
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: Nah, but that's it.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: How about you, guys.
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: Neuro's resolution Johnny has two of them.
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: Yeah, Roma, stop sucking, not ply, so Roma just just
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: find something, just find something and just write out and
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: just don't don't don't relegate yourself for Napoly. Find consistency,
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: find your your dry find like what makes you like,
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: like what do you guys do absolutely best? And how
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: to keep on repeating those results, because that's what that's
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: what's going to turn this team from being like a
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: rejuvenated team into a scudetto contender, potential scudetto winner. So
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: that's what you if you're if you're if you're an appoly, that's.
- 1:05:16Speaker 5: What my resolution is.
- 1:05:19Speaker 4: Yeah, I just even really just go for it because
- 1:05:21Speaker 4: I think they have This is the year where they
- 1:05:23Speaker 4: can really just truly go. We've said it and we'll
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: continue to say until probably the end. But Yeah, for
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: me on I mean, it's.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: A probably a combination of both what these.
- 1:05:40Speaker 4: Guys said to be honest, whin and find consistency because
- 1:05:44Speaker 4: they have neither.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I guess.
- 1:05:50Speaker 4: Find I mean, I can't believe it's week sixteen and
- 1:05:52Speaker 4: we're still trying to say this, but I heard Leo
- 1:05:57Speaker 4: quote from Laos saying, yeah, we're just starting to get
- 1:06:00Speaker 4: uh uh, you know, into the groove of what FUNSECA wants. Guys,
- 1:06:05Speaker 4: It's week sixteen and we haven't figured out what Funseca
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: wants and how he wants to play.
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: We don't know our starting best starting in eleven some
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: games or most times.
- 1:06:15Speaker 4: We struggle against teams we shouldn't be struggling against. Uh,
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: you know, defensively has been a nightmare. Uh you know,
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: besides Magnon defensively, I'm talking about just strictly, the defense
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: has been atrocious. So I think, you know, a combination
- 1:06:33Speaker 4: of of consistency, finding your best eleven, no more excuses,
- 1:06:39Speaker 4: and you know, pushing for top four. I mean, that's
- 1:06:43Speaker 4: those are the those are the checkboxes currently for for
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: me on. So if they can, if they can do
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: at least half of those things, I think that will
- 1:06:51Speaker 4: be in in decent shape come the new year or
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: into the new year, because what's work, what's going on
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: right now as unfortunately not good enough at at the
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: rate that it's going. So with consistency, I can see
- 1:07:05Speaker 4: them doing some positive things. Without it, it's gonna be
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: same weekend, week out, the same same thing, same old thing.
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: It's not gonna change. So yeah, that's what I would
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: say New Yor's resolution. It's it's what it is.
- 1:07:24Speaker 4: It's not like you know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go
- 1:07:27Speaker 4: to the gym. I'm gonna maybe stop eating someut at midnight. Smack,
- 1:07:32Speaker 4: I'm gonna, you know, way off on the coffee.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: I'm gonna. Guys. We need to win. We want to win.
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: We need a top four and fortunate scuo get to
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: maybe a bit out of reach. We want to win
- 1:07:43Speaker 4: consistently and have a consistent.
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: Positive, positive games. But that's I guess, I guess our
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: our resolutions are basically the same. It's consistency and win.
- 1:07:56Speaker 4: But it seems like that's like kind of the state
- 1:07:59Speaker 4: of all our clubs currently, so we'll leave it at that.
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: You are here first, guys. That's what if we were
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: in control of our clubs, which we're not. You know,
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: we're sitting here in our homes and more chal Quebec.
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: That's what we would do. But guys, you know, to
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: all our listeners, if you made it this far in
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: the episode, you know, obviously, as per usual, we want
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: to wish who happy holidays, Merry Christmas, whatever you celebrate,
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- 1:08:29Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Looking forward to twenty twenty five, it
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: feels like, you know, it's almost like a countdown right
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty six World Cup right here in
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: North America. Italy needs to qualify in twenty twenty five.
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: You know, in a year from now, we need to
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: be talking about how twenty twenty six will be the
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: year that Italy wins the World Cup. But and you've
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: will win the Champions League. They're not going to make
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: the Champions League next year, so they got to win
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: this year and win the Club World Cup, which they're playing.
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: You know, I just want to say, the're playing man
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: City in the Club World Cup, which they just played
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: them on what was the last Wednesday, last Tuesday? I forget, Yeah,
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: and they're playing them. They're going to this huge turning
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: in the US to play a team from Europe. Come on,
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- 1:09:34Speaker 4: we kind of opened the show with it. We're going
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