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Speaker 1: Is the gold reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, ABC bias out of control? How it insulted Pauline
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Speaker 2: Hansen and guess how often it interrupted Susan Lee last night.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump now wore with some of his strongest supporters
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Speaker 2: and some of them seem to have gone crazy. And
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Speaker 2: one of Australia's two new political leaders just knew today
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Speaker 2: ask how long does his family have to live here
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Speaker 2: before journalists just call him an Australian, Which is a
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Speaker 2: great question. But first, Chris Bowen right now is at
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Speaker 2: that big innot the nation's climate conference in Brazil telling
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Speaker 2: them Australia's red hot for cutting our emissions to net
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Speaker 2: zero by twenty fifty. What a phony. Now, it's true
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Speaker 2: the Albertezi government sent climate change of Minister is a
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Speaker 2: total phony in my opinion, because I've just seen two
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Speaker 2: documents which i'll now show you. One shows this blow
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Speaker 2: talks about cutting emissions but doesn't, and the other is
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Speaker 2: a list of all the people Bowen has taken to Brazil,
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Speaker 2: hundreds of them. And when I show these documents to you,
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Speaker 2: this is the list of all Australians there, you realize
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Speaker 2: that you've been duped, duped by people like Bowen, Prime
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Speaker 2: Miss Anthony Albanezi, almost all the big climate catastrophes, all
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Speaker 2: of them playing a big game of let's pretend. Let's
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Speaker 2: pretend Australia going that zero is going to change the
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Speaker 2: world's climate, and let's even pretend we are cutting emissions.
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Speaker 2: Document Number one is this graphic Liberal governments. Yes they
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Speaker 2: were cutting emissions, but then suddenly the easy and comes
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Speaker 2: in three and a half years ago and it stops
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Speaker 2: almost no significant cuts to our emissions. In four years.
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Speaker 2: Last year emissions even went up. And these are the
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Speaker 2: guys now claiming they'll cut emissions to zero net in
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Speaker 2: just twenty five years and slamming the Liberals for calling
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Speaker 2: an end to this net zero hoax. To Bowen's bull.
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Speaker 3: The Liberal Party is so out of touch.
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Speaker 2: And now to this second document, it really is a
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Speaker 2: lougha ball. It shows just how few climate preachers from
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Speaker 2: Chris bow and down are really serious about cutting emissions.
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Speaker 2: So Bowen has gone to Brazil, all the way to
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Speaker 2: Brazil to this climate conference, and look at the enormous
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Speaker 2: number of people has taken with them, nine hundred and
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Speaker 2: or four hundred and ninety five of them At Bowen
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Speaker 2: there's four hundred and ninety six, which makes up the
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Speaker 2: eighth biggest delegation at the conference, all of them flying
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Speaker 2: a huge distance in airplanes, using lots of fossil fuels.
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Speaker 2: And you'll be asking you on earth are all these people?
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Speaker 2: How can so many strands be needed at this UN conference?
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Speaker 2: What can they all be doing? Shouldn't they actually stay
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Speaker 2: at home instead of stinking up the world with their
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Speaker 2: global warming emissions flying over there? And if you are
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Speaker 2: asking who are these people, you are asking the right person,
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Speaker 2: because I've checked this provisional list of delegates that was
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Speaker 2: submitted to the conference organizers. Now there's the usual gaggle
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Speaker 2: of federal and state politicians, even mayors, and Green Senator
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Speaker 2: Ah Handsome Young, a planet savor that you might have
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Speaker 2: thought would have been embarrassed to fly all that distance
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Speaker 2: to Brazil instead of logging in on sky from her
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Speaker 2: office or something. There's bureaucrats, climate extremers, Green Peace and
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Speaker 2: people like that, which you might also expected, along with
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Speaker 2: big emitters such as our bhps there and people employed
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Speaker 2: by billionaire minor Andrew Fordis Forrest, the climate alarmist who's
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Speaker 2: falsely claimed, oh I'm going to save Australia with green hydrogen,
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Speaker 2: only to work out it was all too expensive and
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Speaker 2: scrapping the lot. But then there were other people you
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Speaker 2: might never have expected to make this huge crowd of
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Speaker 2: four hundred and ninety six climate crusaders over in Brazil.
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Speaker 2: Now there are people who were expected to come from Australia.
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Speaker 2: Maybe some are pulled out, but this list includes people
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Speaker 2: including surfers for Climate Pimlico State High School, the Australian
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Speaker 2: Youth Climate Coalition, other schools and groups, because you've got
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Speaker 2: to indoctrinate those kids somehow. Plus the National Suicide Prevention
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Speaker 2: and Trauma Recovery Project, which is strange when it's real job,
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Speaker 2: of course, is supposed to be stopping suicides of Aborigines
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Speaker 2: back home. Personally, speaking for me, I would have thought
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Speaker 2: it could have used it the nations more practically right
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Speaker 2: here at home. What did sound astream police doing at
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Speaker 2: the climate conference in Brazil chasing crooks there? I don't
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Speaker 2: think so. Also in Brazil with Bowen climate writers, whatever
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Speaker 2: that is, the Uniting Church, I guess they're looking for
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Speaker 2: a new God. Lots of Aboriginal groups, lots more like
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Speaker 2: the Western Yelungy Aboriginal Corporation, the Indigenous People's Organization Australia
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Speaker 2: and the Indigenous Desert Alliance, which to me shows how
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Speaker 2: climate change for many at this conference is actually a
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Speaker 2: revolt against the modern the revolt against the West, a
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Speaker 2: revolt against colonialists. But all those Aboriginal delegates at LEAF
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Speaker 2: served as a prop for Bowen to show the world
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Speaker 2: at this conference how woke here is, how into identity
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Speaker 2: politics and this new tribalism.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, mister President, and I begin by reaffirming Australia's
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Speaker 4: commitment to the inclusion of First Nations people in our
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Speaker 4: climate change response and clean energy future.
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Speaker 2: About these delicates, do you know that someone there's someone
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Speaker 2: here actually in Brazil from Australia at this conference from
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Speaker 2: an organization called Oranges and Sardines Foundation. O kid you
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Speaker 2: not now. Orangers and Sardines normally funds out their arts projects.
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Speaker 2: But it seems well, maybe the climate catastrophe really is
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Speaker 2: another big entertainment for the elites. I mean, seriously, this
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Speaker 2: is mad, isn't it saving the planet from our emissions
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Speaker 2: by themselves flying to Brazil to do what? And who's
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Speaker 2: paying for it all? And the worst of it is
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Speaker 2: that Bone speech in Brazil was all about the companiasy
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Speaker 2: government wanted to hold another version of the same UN
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Speaker 2: conference next year in Adelaide, called COP thirty one.
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Speaker 4: This time, in hosting COP thirty one, we want to
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Speaker 4: bring the world to our region to see the impacts
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Speaker 4: of climate change and bring the world's best innovators and
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Speaker 4: businesses to invest in solutions.
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Speaker 2: So Bone wants to hold the next one of these
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Speaker 2: clown shows in Australia, despite the government itself figuring that
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Speaker 2: that would cost US more than one billion dollars, A
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Speaker 2: billion dollars an obscene waste of money for what clearly
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Speaker 2: is a circus, an indulgence, a gassy party of the
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Speaker 2: hypocritical left. There was a rule I read about oh
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Speaker 2: years ago. Now I'll take global warming seriously when the
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Speaker 2: people telling us to panic act like it really is serious.
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Speaker 2: I'll discuss the did you see with back Canavan in
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Speaker 2: a minute reveal even more. But I heard something this
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Speaker 2: morning that really has to be called out. The most
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Speaker 2: disgusting example of ABC bias I've heard in months, and
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Speaker 2: that's really saying something. Pauline Hanson. She went on ABC
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Speaker 2: Radio National Breakfast this morning, and I know lucky you.
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Speaker 2: I was really expecting, of course, that host Sally Sarah
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Speaker 2: would treat the One Nation leader like dirt. Sarah, clearly
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Speaker 2: of the left, had to interview Hansen because may I look,
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Speaker 2: the pole support for her One Nation party is something
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Speaker 2: that even the ABC can't ignore anymore. It's now double
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Speaker 2: the Green support, nearly up to the Liberals. But you know,
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Speaker 2: ABC hosts, they know that if they're polite to Hanson
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Speaker 2: treated like the treat Sayer Green, you know, deference, they'd
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Speaker 2: have ABC listeners frothing and abusing them and naughty emails
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Speaker 2: for selling out. So from the start of this interview
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Speaker 2: there was the usual ABC heckling, interrupting, miss leading, fact checking,
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Speaker 2: and then Sarah the ABC, you know, then got really nasty.
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Speaker 2: Do Pauline Hansen back the government's decision to deport a
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Speaker 2: neo Nazi from South Africa? I mean it was so obvious,
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Speaker 2: of course, you can see where it was going. The
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Speaker 2: ABEC hoping to paint Anson as a friend of neo Nazis,
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Speaker 2: a defender of Nazis, who didn't work Hans and said
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Speaker 2: you had deport the guys. Sarah trod again. So wood
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Speaker 2: Hanson backed the right of neo Nazis to protest, Well,
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Speaker 2: another fail. Hanson said, oh lash, you just hope that
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Speaker 2: hate speech laws would be used against the neo Nazis.
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Speaker 2: So the ABC then jumped in with the lowest of
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Speaker 2: low tricks.
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Speaker 5: When you got anyone spearing the hate on the streets,
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Speaker 5: and I've seen that not only from neo Nazis. I've
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Speaker 5: seen it from some clerics on our streets, and I
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Speaker 5: think it's discussing yet we don't seem to do anything
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Speaker 5: about them.
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Speaker 6: Do you apply those same principles to your own speech
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Speaker 6: when it comes to talking about Asians or Muslim or
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Speaker 6: other communities.
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Speaker 5: Sarah, I think you better rephrase that because I don't
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Speaker 5: talk about only hate with regards to them. If I
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Speaker 5: speak of anything to do with immigration, it's on factual basis,
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Speaker 5: so I don't believe it's hate speech, So I think
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Speaker 5: you should rephrase that.
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Speaker 6: I was asking if those principles apply to your your speech,
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Speaker 6: not describing yours as hate speech? Yes or no?
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Speaker 3: Which speech to your comments?
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Speaker 5: Where have I actually referred to hate speech?
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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard a more classic example of that
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Speaker 2: old have you stopped beating your wife? Question? One? Where
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Speaker 2: just to ask it is to smear and that, in
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Speaker 2: my opinion, was the ABC's whole intention. Back to Chris Bowen,
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Speaker 2: you know it's not just him and the government playing
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Speaker 2: let's pretend, you know, let's pretend we're cutting emissions and
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Speaker 2: saving the planet everywhere you look, especially if you're looking
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Speaker 2: at Australian billionaire Mike cannon Brooks, the Lassian founder who's
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Speaker 2: turned into such a climate crusader that he hands a
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Speaker 2: book he had printed, Don't f Up the Planet so
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Speaker 2: people doing business with him, I mean, how arrogant, but
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Speaker 2: climate prophodile gore that Inconvenient Truth guy praises him for
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Speaker 2: being so dead keen to cut emissions, including of course
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Speaker 2: his own.
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Speaker 3: We have a huge problem with fossil fuel.
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Speaker 7: In closing, let me just say I like your style,
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Speaker 7: I love your passion.
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Speaker 3: I really appreciate your commitment.
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Speaker 2: Except canon Brooks is a bit of a bone in himself.
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Speaker 2: He promises slash at Lassie's emissions from business travel, but
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Speaker 2: in fact Bluish targets massively, not least because he's bought
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Speaker 2: a private jet and sure not a small one. Joining
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Speaker 2: me is our regular Tuesday commentator canav En, the National
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Speaker 2: Senate and format resources. Minister Matt, great to see you.
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Speaker 2: What does it tell you that emissions only the Albanizi
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Speaker 2: governments have essentially not fallen and even went up last year.
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Speaker 4: Well, what it tells me, Andrew is this is all
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Speaker 4: a marketing slogan, not anything that's real. We're lectured at
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Speaker 4: by this government that we must get to net zero emissions.
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Speaker 4: But really what this is is simply a form of
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Speaker 4: words to try and get the Labor Party elected, not
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Speaker 4: something they.
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Speaker 1: Really believe in.
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Speaker 4: Because, as you say, emissions out of this government have
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Speaker 4: barely changed in three years. If it was such an
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Speaker 4: urgent issue for us, why haven't they taken more action?
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Speaker 4: And I think it's also very important to take a
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Speaker 4: wider look here.
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Speaker 1: Over the twenty year period.
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Speaker 4: Now we judge our emission cuts from two thousand and
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Speaker 4: five levels, and so yes, you'll often hear Andrew that
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Speaker 4: we've cut our emissions by twenty eight percent.
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Speaker 1: That's way more than almost any other country in the world.
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Speaker 4: However, almost all of those emission cuts, those emission reductions
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Speaker 4: have occurred from taking land, mostly farmland, and converting it
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Speaker 4: to forest or what we would say in the National's
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Speaker 4: Party to unmanaged scrub, you.
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Speaker 1: Just get weeds and pests.
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Speaker 4: Basically, kick the cattle off, kick the farmers off, and
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Speaker 4: you call it saving the planet. So roughly speaking, Andrew,
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Speaker 4: we've reduced our emissions by around one hundred and sixty
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Speaker 4: million tons on an annual basis since two thousand and five.
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Speaker 4: One hundred and fifty of that one sixty is thanks
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Speaker 4: to this conversion process. This reforestation process is taking away
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Speaker 4: productive land from an economic use and putting some trees
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Speaker 4: on it, or letting the scrub grow and saying.
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Speaker 1: Hey, what good boys are we? Aren't we doing well?
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Speaker 2: Now?
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Speaker 4: We've lost seven point two million hectares of land through
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Speaker 4: this process, productive land that has cost of farming communities.
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Speaker 4: It's cost jobs, cost economic activity. And meanwhile, all those
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Speaker 4: people in the cities, like mister cannon Brooks, they're doing
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Speaker 4: nothing to reduce their emissions.
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Speaker 1: We've had almost no change in the emissions that's.
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Speaker 4: Come from people in the cities flying around the world,
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Speaker 4: are driving their cars, consuming whatever they like from temu
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Speaker 4: shipped in from China. None of that's changed all of
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Speaker 4: the impact of our missions reduction so far, almost all
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Speaker 4: of it has come in rural Australia.
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Speaker 2: You seem to describe a process with growing wheat is bad,
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Speaker 2: but growing weeds is good. The UN Climate Conference in
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Speaker 2: Brazil right now, four hundred and ninety six Australians officially
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Speaker 2: listed in the delegation. You might have heard me list
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Speaker 2: some of the very strange people there. I should go
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Speaker 2: back and give some more names. This seems something very
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Speaker 2: different to a conference that I would expect was about climates,
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Speaker 2: science and economics and how to deal with it. There
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Speaker 2: seems to me a very different agenda here.
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Speaker 1: Well, Andrew.
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Speaker 4: One of the surprising things to me since the National's
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Speaker 4: Party and now the Liberal Party have said, look, we're
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Speaker 4: not going to pursue this net zero goal is not achievable.
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Speaker 4: The government itself is not even doing it's just costing
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Speaker 4: au Straand's arm and the leg One of the most
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Speaker 4: surprising things has been the incredibly shrill response from a
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Speaker 4: very small group of people who seem to be getting
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Speaker 4: a lot out of the net zero agenda. It's hard
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Speaker 4: to describe why there would be so shrill about just
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Speaker 4: the National Liberal Party.
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Speaker 1: They seem to hate us, so if.
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Speaker 4: They think this is such a bad political idea, they
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Speaker 4: should be rubbing their hands with lee but I think
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Speaker 4: the real worry for them is that the grift might
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Speaker 4: be over that a whole lot of people here are
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Speaker 4: making money out of the net zero agenda. It's not
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Speaker 4: helping their average Australian, it's not lowering power prices. It's
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Speaker 4: costing thousands of manufacturing jobs. We've lost over seven thousand
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Speaker 4: manufacturing jobs since we signed up to net zero. But
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Speaker 4: there is a small number of rich, self entitled people
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Speaker 4: who seem to have taken upon themselves to lecture the
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Speaker 4: rest of us about how terrible we are. They are
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Speaker 4: also making a lot of money from this, and good
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Speaker 4: luck to the four hundred and ninety six people have
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Speaker 4: had a nice holiday over in Brazil. Keep in mind
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Speaker 4: they're benefiting from a road that's been carved out of
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Speaker 4: the Amazonian jungle to get them to that conference. I'm
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Speaker 4: just glad, Andrew. I've never been to a COP conference.
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Speaker 4: I hope I never do go to one, But if
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Speaker 4: they do bring it to Adelaide, I might just have
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Speaker 4: to turn up, because God, that will be such a
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Speaker 4: massive opportunity for me to pursue the madness of net
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Speaker 4: zero and why we shouldn't be spending billions of dollars
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Speaker 4: on a cop conference, let alone everything else they're doing.
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Speaker 2: When you raise that prospect of you going to a
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Speaker 2: conference or something like that, look, I've got to say,
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Speaker 2: here's something that bothers me. You know that a lot
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Speaker 2: of people there have a religious belief in global woman
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Speaker 2: neit zero. It's like, you know, one of those new
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Speaker 2: apocalypse faiths. Repent for the end of the world is nigh.
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Speaker 2: You can only argue against it with people liberal or
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Speaker 2: nationals who are going to be passionate, extremely well informed
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Speaker 2: on the subject, consistent for years in arguing against net
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Speaker 2: zero and the global warming scare, of whom there are
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Speaker 2: very very few in the coalition now who've had that
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Speaker 2: consistent record. You do. And I'm wondering whether when you
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Speaker 2: are now going to end your exile on the backbench
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Speaker 2: and actually take a lead role, maybe as a shadow minister,
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Speaker 2: and argue against it, because I don't think anyone else
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Speaker 2: in the coalition has the knowledge, or the courage or
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Speaker 2: the ability to do so.
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Speaker 4: Andrew, I very much appreciate the compliments. The major reason
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Speaker 4: I would not have joined the Shadow ministry has been removed.
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Speaker 4: That that reason was I couldn't sign up to supporting
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Speaker 4: that zero emission and so whileever the coalition had that
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Speaker 4: policy position, I just could not do it. I was
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Speaker 4: going to continue to arre you against this madness. And
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Speaker 4: I'm glad now that myself and a few others have
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Speaker 4: eventually convinced now seventy members of Parliament. That's a number
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Speaker 4: of Liberal and Nationals in at the Parliament, seventy of
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Speaker 4: us now against that.
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Speaker 1: So that's been the major achievement.
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Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 4: Look, honestly, Andrew, I'm just so glad that that's been done.
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Speaker 1: And I've been.
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Speaker 4: Saying I think, really serve, well, yes, Andrew, the showtage
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Speaker 4: was yes, but it's up to other people.
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Speaker 1: And look, having banged drum for so long, I.
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Speaker 4: Realized that some people are pretty frustrated with me too, Andrew,
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Speaker 4: and I can accept that. I understand that Cassandras tend
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Speaker 4: not to get too many bouquets at the end of
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Speaker 4: the day, and.
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Speaker 1: It's a price I'm willing to pay.
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Speaker 4: But look, if I have to serve, of course I would, Andrew,
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Speaker 4: because I do want to see now the main goal
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Speaker 4: here now is to convince his trained people of this madness,
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Speaker 4: to get our country back on track, to maintain our
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Speaker 4: manufacturing sector to keep our cost down so we get
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Speaker 4: standard living, the standard of living up for Australians. That
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Speaker 4: is my number one focus now and if for others
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Speaker 4: my colleagues consider that I could do that in a
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Speaker 4: front bench role, of course I would. But as I say,
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Speaker 4: I'm just glad that they have now taken this up.
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Speaker 4: We're just a base camp though, We've got mount over
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Speaker 4: us to climb to kill off this backwards agenda that's
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Speaker 4: holding our country down.
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Speaker 2: Mt Kennevan, thank you so much for your time after
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Speaker 2: the break the problem with Victoria's new opposition leader just
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Speaker 2: thirty five years old and Victoria's labor Guvnan accused of
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Speaker 2: breaking it's treated with aborigines after less than one week,
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Speaker 2: maybe this isn't such a good idea after all, it
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Speaker 2: will be so like the Victorian Liberals, wouldn't it to
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Speaker 2: burn two leaders in a single day, because they just
20:04
Speaker 2: today voted to dump Brad Batten as opposition leader. But
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Speaker 2: on the very day that a poll came out to
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Speaker 2: say well, actually it's doing pretty well. He just led
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Speaker 2: the Liberals to a lead over Labor. He was winning.
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Speaker 2: He was way more popular than the Victorian premier, so
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Speaker 2: if the Liberals had waited, maybe they could have learned
20:26
Speaker 2: that Baton was on a roll. Maybe they could have
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Speaker 2: found out one way or the other before deciding like
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Speaker 2: they did today. No one knows too much of one
20:34
Speaker 2: trick pony talking a lot about crime and a little
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Speaker 2: about the economy, and the Labour figured him out. The
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Speaker 2: polls suggests that they hadn't. Really. Instead, the Liberals rushed
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Speaker 2: in Jess Wilson to replace him before even she expected
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Speaker 2: to get this a new job or whatever. I mean,
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Speaker 2: she's a very inexperienced woman. She's just thirty five years old,
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Speaker 2: with just three years in parliament, and then with this
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Speaker 2: poll coming out she's had They had no story to
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Speaker 2: tell about why Baton had to be replaced.
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Speaker 8: Brade has done a terrific role and I thank him
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Speaker 8: for his service.
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Speaker 1: I thank him for his leadership, but more broadly for
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Speaker 1: his service to Liberal Party.
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Speaker 9: Over many years.
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Speaker 6: And I know that brad le the key role going
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Speaker 6: forward in.
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Speaker 3: The lead up to the extras.
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Speaker 2: So why if he's done a terrific job, then why
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Speaker 2: are you're standing there today?
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Speaker 1: Not Rublack?
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Speaker 3: The Liberal Party group have spoken, must.
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Speaker 2: Have heard her try to answer variance of that question
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Speaker 2: about I don't know a dozen times at least we
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Speaker 2: don't know why Batton was rolled. She's not telling now.
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Speaker 2: That's left Wilson with a massive learning curve ahead of her.
21:44
Speaker 2: And if it turns out she has been rushed in
21:46
Speaker 2: too fast, the Liberals then would have destroyed her as well,
21:52
Speaker 2: which would actually be a shame, because I do think
21:54
Speaker 2: she has plenty of promise. People who know well say
21:57
Speaker 2: she does, and she was I got to say she
22:01
Speaker 2: was already asking the right kind of questions of this
22:04
Speaker 2: disastrous Victorian government and it's disastrously in at Premier and
22:09
Speaker 2: the very first question time.
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Speaker 8: As leader, my question is to the Premier, between now
22:15
Speaker 8: and the end of question time, the Labor government's debt
22:18
Speaker 8: will have increased by two million dollars.
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Speaker 9: Premier, is this debt increased sustainable?
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Speaker 10: And I thank the latest leader of the Liberal Party
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Speaker 10: for her question today, and I thank her for her
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Speaker 10: question which is focused on the government's fiscal strategy that
22:33
Speaker 10: I say, Speaker is working.
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Speaker 2: As you saw right there, there's Premier just center Alan
22:39
Speaker 2: treating voters like absolute idiots. I mean, she and Labor
22:43
Speaker 2: have been burying Victoria in so much debt that the
22:48
Speaker 2: whole country will be dragged down. Wilson is a smart
22:53
Speaker 2: cookie with luck and with unity, and I have to
22:55
Speaker 2: say on that point, Brad Batten helped her enormously today
22:58
Speaker 2: by taking his dumping with tremendous grace. Wilson could hurt
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Speaker 2: the labor government. She's worked with big business and then
23:08
Speaker 2: with Federal Treasurer Josh Fredenberg, and she knows what's what
23:12
Speaker 2: about the economy. But at thirty five, I don't know.
23:16
Speaker 2: I wonder whether she's learned yet to understand the so
23:18
Speaker 2: called culture wars, understand why they matter. Too many liberals
23:22
Speaker 2: just say, oh no, it's irrelevant, you know, better not
23:24
Speaker 2: get into them. And I wonder whether she would know
23:27
Speaker 2: how to fight them. I mean, just three years ago
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Speaker 2: she supported net zero. Now she says, oh, a four
23:35
Speaker 2: emissions reduction, sort of vague term there. And you know,
23:39
Speaker 2: back when the poll showed most Victorians backed the Albanizer
23:43
Speaker 2: Government's Voice the Racial Division of Australia, Wilson was the
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Speaker 2: only state liberal politician Victoria who publicly backed that terrible idea,
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Speaker 2: that racist idea. But now that if Victorians have voted
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Speaker 2: no to the Voice, will soon now says well, I'm
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Speaker 2: against Victoria's version of the Voice the First People's Assembly,
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Speaker 2: and against the treaty the government just signed with it.
24:11
Speaker 2: So this is someone with a lot to learn changing
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Speaker 2: your mind, hopefully permanently, and the cases I just given,
24:19
Speaker 2: and she's changing it very fast at just thirty five
24:23
Speaker 2: years old. She'll have to and maybe all this is
24:26
Speaker 2: coming too fast for her, but we shall see. But
24:35
Speaker 2: I mentioned that treaty the Victoria's labor government. I mean
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Speaker 2: keep mentioning Victoria, but honestly, this is the worst state
24:41
Speaker 2: government I have seen, probably in my life. I mean,
24:44
Speaker 2: the Kerner government was bad, but this is worse. The
24:47
Speaker 2: really that treaty the labor government there is just signed
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Speaker 2: last week with the First People's Assembly is causing exactly
24:55
Speaker 2: the trouble we've predicted. Now Victoria right now is a
24:59
Speaker 2: massive crime work, the worst youth crime on record. This
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Speaker 2: is another culture war that needs to be fought because
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Speaker 2: there's more than just bad policing. The worst youth crime
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Speaker 2: rate on record, and to deal with it, Labor did
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Speaker 2: a one hundred and eighty degree turn and said, oh,
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Speaker 2: young defenders should actually face out our sentences for a
25:16
Speaker 2: range of crimes. It's gone from extremely soft to now, oh,
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Speaker 2: let's be really really tough. But not so far, says
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Speaker 2: this First People's Assembly. It said this rush government plan
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Speaker 2: sentenced children to add our times unacceptable in the treaty era.
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Speaker 2: Under this treaty signed only last week, the First People's
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Speaker 2: Assembly says should have been consulted because this was a
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Speaker 2: law that would affect a lot of Aboriginal children. Joining
25:45
Speaker 2: me again is Lenicolaris, a Barris who has checked what
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Speaker 2: this treaty actually means, how would actually work, and warned
25:51
Speaker 2: last week on this show of exactly this kind of thing.
25:56
Speaker 2: Lona Coolaris, thank you so much for your time. Has
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Speaker 2: a Victorian government already broken the terms of the treaty
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Speaker 2: it's signed only last week?
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Speaker 11: Well, Andrew, thank you so much for having me here again.
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Speaker 11: I've observed that labor has a habit of hijacking our
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Speaker 11: language that really needs to be called out. This is
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Speaker 11: not a treaty and that is because a treaty is
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Speaker 11: an agreement between two international countries that is governed by
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Speaker 11: international law. So plainly enough, this is not a treaty.
26:26
Speaker 11: What it is it is an act of Parliament that
26:29
Speaker 11: has now created a system of co governance in our
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Speaker 11: state whereby non Indigenous Victorians are governed by the State
26:37
Speaker 11: of Victoria and Indigenous Victorians are governed by this body
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Speaker 11: called glong Wall. This act has completely upended our democracy
26:47
Speaker 11: and our system of governance. By this act, Labor has
26:52
Speaker 11: shattered one of the foundations of our democracy, which is
26:56
Speaker 11: a quality before the law, and it has done so
26:59
Speaker 11: in complete contempt of the democratic will of Victorians. Victorians
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Speaker 11: have worked hard for over two hundred years to create
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Speaker 11: an egalitarian society that until recently has been the envy
27:12
Speaker 11: of the world. Now, what we're seeing with this announcement
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Speaker 11: by the First People's Assembly today is the beginning of
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Speaker 11: a two tiered justice system. But in my view, Labor,
27:25
Speaker 11: by its announcement in relation to adult time for violent crime,
27:30
Speaker 11: has not breached the Act, and that is because all
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Speaker 11: Labor has done is make an announcement. It has not
27:37
Speaker 11: actually drafted any laws to make Victorians safe.
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Speaker 3: What the Act requires is.
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Speaker 11: Any time a bill is introduced into Parliament, the Gelong
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Speaker 11: Wall be consulted, and we're not at that point yet.
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Speaker 2: Well, they're obviously demanding the First People's Assembly to be
27:58
Speaker 2: consulted with the laws affect everyone and change them even
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Speaker 2: though it itself represents one percent of the Victorian population
28:07
Speaker 2: that are Aboriginal, and only ten percent of that population
28:10
Speaker 2: of males or voters adults voted for it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: this seems absurd.
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Speaker 11: It is absurd. It is the most consequential piece of
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Speaker 11: legislation our state has ever seen, and quite frankly, I'm
28:27
Speaker 11: not convinced that any parliamentarian who voted in favor of
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Speaker 11: it actually understands or understood the ramifications of it, or
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Speaker 11: perhaps hadn't even read it at all.
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Speaker 2: Now, Lana, this is about feelings. There you go, being
28:42
Speaker 2: a lawyer expecting words to have meaning. No, this is
28:44
Speaker 2: about feelings, Lana Kolaris, Thank you so much, indeed for
28:48
Speaker 2: your fight to try and bring reason to what's actually unreasonable.
28:52
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time after the break.
28:55
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is at war as some of his closest
28:58
Speaker 2: supporters go crazy. The right in the US is now
29:06
Speaker 2: at war with each others and going crazy some of them,
29:09
Speaker 2: and that's fills trouble for President Donald Trump. It started
29:13
Speaker 2: with two of the world's most popular podcasts, as Candice Owens,
29:16
Speaker 2: once a Trump favorite, and Tucker Carlson, who Trump had
29:20
Speaker 2: campaigned for him. Last year, but both now are pitching
29:24
Speaker 2: to fire right lunatics for the cliques and cash. Candae
29:27
Speaker 2: Owens is even now being sued for claiming the wife
29:30
Speaker 2: of French President Emmanuel Macron is actually a man, and
29:34
Speaker 2: she's been pushing vile anti Jewish conspiracy theories.
29:38
Speaker 12: Catholics and Christians were going missing on Passover, and then
29:43
Speaker 12: they would find bodies, okay, across Europe.
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Speaker 3: And they were able to trace them back to Jews.
29:48
Speaker 3: Blood Bibel. They weren't Jews, okay, these were Frankists. The
29:52
Speaker 3: nation of Israel may have been established by some Frankists.
29:57
Speaker 2: It's just get worse. Carlson Well interviews neo Nazis, pro
30:02
Speaker 2: stun freaks, even Hitler apologists, with minimum pushback.
30:08
Speaker 3: You're a fan of Stalin's ties and admirer. I thought
30:11
Speaker 3: Churchill was the chief villain of the Second World War.
30:13
Speaker 3: I think the story we got about World War Two
30:15
Speaker 3: is all wrong.
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Speaker 2: I think that's right.
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Speaker 11: One can make the argument we should have sided with
30:19
Speaker 11: Hitler and fought Stalin.
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Speaker 2: And now these guys saying, oh, Trump, you're too close
30:24
Speaker 2: to Israel. Oh you should concentrate more at things at home.
30:28
Speaker 2: Forget the rest of the world. Meanwhile, in politics, it's
30:31
Speaker 2: much the same story. Extremists. Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green,
30:36
Speaker 2: there used to be a huge Trump backer, now says
30:39
Speaker 2: Trump is two pro Israel, too focused for foreign affairs,
30:42
Speaker 2: and as the amund of Trump released secret files on
30:45
Speaker 2: dead pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and implies Trump has reason to
30:50
Speaker 2: cover up.
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Speaker 7: The country deserves transparency and these files. And I don't
30:56
Speaker 7: believe that rich, powerful people be protected if they have
31:02
Speaker 7: if they have done anything wrong.
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Speaker 2: Trump this week said no Green, Taylor Green, she's a
31:08
Speaker 2: raging lunatic. He's pulling a support for her and calls
31:11
Speaker 2: her Marjorie traitor Green.
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Speaker 3: Her life is in danger? Who's that, aren't we?
31:18
Speaker 7: Taylor Green?
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Speaker 12: He said, Marjorie Trader Gren, I don't think her life.
31:23
Speaker 3: Is in danger.
31:24
Speaker 12: I don't think Frankly, I don't think anybody cares about her.
31:29
Speaker 2: But Donald Trump has now ordered the Epstein files release.
31:32
Speaker 2: Joining me is Trump's first White House spokesman, Sean Spicer.
31:38
Speaker 2: Sean Spicer, thank you so much for your time. First,
31:41
Speaker 2: what is going on with Marjorie Taylor Green and Donald Trump?
31:45
Speaker 2: How serious is this? It's just alone crazy? Or is
31:50
Speaker 2: there something a little bit more serious in the background.
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Speaker 3: Well, I hope and believe it's a one off.
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Speaker 12: She was on my show, I don't know, forty eight
32:02
Speaker 12: hours before this whole thing broke out, and she remains
32:04
Speaker 12: a loyal support of Donald Trump, but she was very
32:07
Speaker 12: clear that she wanted to be on the side of
32:10
Speaker 12: the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. When you look at the
32:14
Speaker 12: number of people who've been loyal to Donald Trump since
32:16
Speaker 12: the beginning, Marjorie is probably at the top of that list.
32:20
Speaker 12: I understand that this is a big issue for him
32:22
Speaker 12: and for the White House at least it was, but
32:25
Speaker 12: Marjorie has been unwavering in her support for Trump and
32:28
Speaker 12: for the America First agenda. So I'm hoping, hoping that
32:32
Speaker 12: things can get back on track between the two of them,
32:36
Speaker 12: and that he will recognize that in the long run,
32:40
Speaker 12: especially with a super slim majority, Andrew, and that's the thing,
32:44
Speaker 12: with a very very slim majority in the House of Representatives,
32:47
Speaker 12: there's not a lot of room for error right now
32:49
Speaker 12: in the vote counting, and we need to make sure
32:52
Speaker 12: that Marjorie's stays committed to the America First agenda and policies,
32:56
Speaker 12: which I think she is, and she's.
32:58
Speaker 3: Continues to be a support to him.
33:00
Speaker 12: But obviously this kind of thing, having the President of
33:02
Speaker 12: the United States slash out.
33:04
Speaker 3: At you, you know, really has an effect.
33:06
Speaker 12: You could see some of the posts that she's made
33:08
Speaker 12: about the concern she has for her own personal security.
33:12
Speaker 12: So I just I think at this point it's helpful
33:16
Speaker 12: if we remind both of them that were on the
33:18
Speaker 12: same team and get back on track.
33:23
Speaker 2: Well, since the President called her a traitor, and I'm
33:25
Speaker 2: not quite sure he thinks they're on the same team,
33:27
Speaker 2: and she I don't know if it was meant that way,
33:30
Speaker 2: but she implied to me that Trump was somehow implicated
33:34
Speaker 2: in these Epstein files, the secret files. That Trump had
33:39
Speaker 2: said before, oh no, we will release them, then he
33:43
Speaker 2: said we shouldn't release them, and now he's just said
33:46
Speaker 2: they will be released. What is the story? There's what's
33:50
Speaker 2: been the hold up?
33:53
Speaker 12: You know, this is an issue that truly confounds me.
33:57
Speaker 12: So I had on my show Alan Dershwitz. Alan Dershowitz,
34:01
Speaker 12: for those who don't know, was Jeffrey Epstein's attorney.
34:04
Speaker 3: He was also a loyal.
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Speaker 12: Democrat who defended Donald Trump in his first impeachment because
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Speaker 12: Dershwitz is a true believer in the Constitution, and so
34:14
Speaker 12: he believed that Trump was being wronged, wrongfully impeached and
34:18
Speaker 12: stood up for the rule of law, not.
34:20
Speaker 3: Because he was a big Trump guy, but more because
34:22
Speaker 3: he cares about the rule of law.
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Speaker 12: So I say all that because Alan Dershowitz has extremely
34:27
Speaker 12: strong bona fides when it comes to this particular area.
34:31
Speaker 12: And he has said to me on my show, people
34:33
Speaker 12: can go.
34:34
Speaker 3: Out and watch it right now on YouTube.
34:36
Speaker 12: When he asked Jeffrey Epstein during the plea part of
34:40
Speaker 12: the Epstein trial, is there anybody that you might have
34:44
Speaker 12: leverage on that you might have dirt on? And he
34:46
Speaker 12: named Donald Trump specifically, and Epstein said no. Now, Dershwitz's
34:52
Speaker 12: point is to make clear that, like, look, as an attorney,
34:55
Speaker 12: if you have leverage over somebody that's you know, during
35:00
Speaker 12: the sentencing phase, this is when you want to kind
35:04
Speaker 12: of ask for some wiggle room.
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Speaker 3: Hey, we know a lot of additional information. We can
35:07
Speaker 3: bargain with that.
35:09
Speaker 12: And Dershowitz said, like point blank, Epstein was clear that
35:12
Speaker 12: Trump had nothing.
35:13
Speaker 3: You know, he had no dirt on Trump.
35:15
Speaker 12: And I think everything that we've seen come out from
35:17
Speaker 12: Glaine Maxwell to Virginia ju Free that have all been
35:21
Speaker 12: central to this case. Nobody has ever, ever once implicated
35:25
Speaker 12: Donald Trump in anything. So why this confounds me is
35:29
Speaker 12: that is that you know, we know from multiple people
35:33
Speaker 12: now that he was not involved in anything nefarious. So
35:36
Speaker 12: if I were him, I would say, you know, let
35:39
Speaker 12: the chips fall where they may. I understand the concern
35:42
Speaker 12: for privacy for some of the victims, and some of
35:44
Speaker 12: the people might that it might have been falsely accused,
35:46
Speaker 12: But considering the level of public interest in this, and
35:49
Speaker 12: considering his past statements on this, I think that they
35:53
Speaker 12: should do everything they can to get every piece of
35:55
Speaker 12: information possible into the public domain.
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Speaker 2: Now, this is just one sign of division on the right.
36:06
Speaker 2: The other, as I've mentioned in the intro to this,
36:10
Speaker 2: is Tucker Carlson Candice Owns, formerly big supporters of Donald Trump,
36:15
Speaker 2: now criticizing him and also themselves going really loopy, platforming
36:23
Speaker 2: neo Nazis, apologists for Hitler, outright anti Semitism on the
36:28
Speaker 2: behalf of Candas owns, kooky conspiracy theories. What effect that
36:34
Speaker 2: they having on the Republican Party. Given that Tucker Carlson
36:37
Speaker 2: in particular were so central to some of the election
36:44
Speaker 2: campaign rallies, etc. Et cetera. Donald Trump last year.
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Speaker 12: Look, Tucker in particular is a very large voice in
36:52
Speaker 12: the movement.
36:53
Speaker 3: But I've known talker a long time. He beats to
36:55
Speaker 3: his own drum.
36:56
Speaker 12: This is not a guy who really gives a crap
36:58
Speaker 12: about public perception, you know what other people think of him.
37:01
Speaker 12: He's kind of charted his own path for years, and
37:05
Speaker 12: obviously there's a lot of consternation because of the size
37:07
Speaker 12: of his voice, and so when he has people on
37:10
Speaker 12: the platform, I think what people had hoped from Tucker
37:16
Speaker 12: was that he might push back on that particular guest
37:18
Speaker 12: a lot more as he had with other people.
37:21
Speaker 3: He's a tough interviewer, the guy.
37:22
Speaker 12: You know, he does his research, he knows his subjects,
37:26
Speaker 12: and I think what where the concern primarily from that
37:29
Speaker 12: one interview was is that, you know, he didn't push
37:33
Speaker 12: back more and then writ large. I think there is
37:36
Speaker 12: a little bit of a divide now that we're seeing
37:38
Speaker 12: on the on the right with Israel as an issue,
37:41
Speaker 12: and it has traditionally been one of those issues that
37:44
Speaker 12: was sort of one hundred percent maybe ninety five, and
37:48
Speaker 12: you're now starting to see some cracks in that in
37:50
Speaker 12: terms of whether or not we should be supporting Israel.
37:53
Speaker 12: I am a big believer that you don't give them
37:56
Speaker 12: unfettered support. But they are the only democracy in the Middleage.
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Speaker 12: They have been a great ally to us, and it
38:02
Speaker 12: makes our it is in our national interest to make
38:06
Speaker 12: sure that Israel means a strong ally and a supported
38:09
Speaker 12: ally in the region. So I look at Israel not
38:12
Speaker 12: just you know, in terms of the keeper of so
38:14
Speaker 12: many holy sites, not only the only democracy there, but
38:18
Speaker 12: sort of a foothold for us in a very otherwise
38:22
Speaker 12: precarious area of the world. So I think you hear
38:26
Speaker 12: people like Tucker talk about questioning our need to support Israel,
38:30
Speaker 12: and that does divide a lot of people.
38:34
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't just that outright neo Nazi, Nick Fluentez.
38:40
Speaker 2: They didn't get pushed back from Taki Carlson, Vladimir Putin
38:44
Speaker 2: didn't get pushed back from Taki, Kahlsen Katan didn't get
38:47
Speaker 2: pushed back from Takikalsen. There's a disturbing pattern going on here.
38:52
Speaker 2: Sean Spicser, I can't go before I congratulate you on
38:56
Speaker 2: a milestone for your Shawn Spicy show on Saturday, fifty
39:00
Speaker 2: million views on that day. Outstanding effort. Thank you so
39:04
Speaker 2: much indeed for your time.
39:06
Speaker 3: Always appreciate it. Thank you, Andrew.
39:09
Speaker 2: After the break, two violent youth offenders sent to Queensland
39:14
Speaker 2: for a holiday paid for by taxpayers's. At the top
39:22
Speaker 2: of the show, guess how often the bias they be
39:26
Speaker 2: seen last night interrupted oppositionally to season Lee in one interview,
39:32
Speaker 2: Quick guess now because the counter is starting to click.
39:37
Speaker 3: Susan Lee, welcome, terrific to be here.
39:39
Speaker 6: In the studio with your Sarah.
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Speaker 3: Our affordable energy plan. But it will come out in
39:43
Speaker 3: a moment.
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Speaker 11: And let's holding you would be but will you You've
39:49
Speaker 11: been bang on our affordable.
39:51
Speaker 3: Energy plan, so you've said we need are well. I
39:54
Speaker 3: asked not about holding and that thirty hang on. If
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Speaker 3: I can't just answer the question because I come from that,
40:01
Speaker 3: I think we should think we should look at the
40:03
Speaker 3: same time. I promise talking about we believe.
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Speaker 9: It's the moment I know or not with respects Sarah,
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Speaker 9: if you will let me finish, please, The main game
40:11
Speaker 9: is how we.
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Speaker 6: Yet that document documents It's about.
40:18
Speaker 3: The government ape. I'm not That's why costs have gone
40:21
Speaker 3: up forty percent. That's why Australians are struggling. That's why
40:24
Speaker 3: we thank you very much for coming in.
40:27
Speaker 2: Joing me a SKA news host Anika de Georgia and
40:30
Speaker 2: Meer Schlift of the Institute of Public Affairs Mire. ABC
40:33
Speaker 2: is absolutely under control, now, isn't it.
40:37
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course the ABC is out of control. But
40:39
Speaker 8: I don't think it's just in recent development. I think
40:41
Speaker 8: the ABC has been out of control for quite a
40:43
Speaker 8: while now, and there's a reason their ratings are in
40:46
Speaker 8: free full it's because of things like this. At the
40:48
Speaker 8: end of the day, the ABC is not the cultural
40:50
Speaker 8: institution that it once was. If you don't live in
40:53
Speaker 8: any city, Melbourne or inner city city, then the ABC
40:57
Speaker 8: simply does not represent your views. And we've seen Sarah
41:00
Speaker 8: used this interview tactic many times, often to people on
41:04
Speaker 8: the right. Recently, she did interview Kamala Harris and she
41:07
Speaker 8: held her somewhat accountable, but she certainly did not interrupt
41:10
Speaker 8: her as much as she did with Susan Lee. So
41:13
Speaker 8: I think mainstream Australians can see straight through thisiness why
41:16
Speaker 8: they're switching off because they're tired of it. They're tired
41:19
Speaker 8: of seeing the bias.
41:22
Speaker 2: You know, Denika. A Liberal leader or a coalition leader
41:28
Speaker 2: goes to the ABC's heckled thirty five times, and that's
41:33
Speaker 2: not unusual, by the way. I mean some of the
41:35
Speaker 2: heckling and inside is just as bad on Sundays. Why
41:40
Speaker 2: would a liberal go on the ABC anymore when that
41:44
Speaker 2: is the kind of treatment.
41:46
Speaker 3: Well, why would you bother?
41:47
Speaker 2: You know?
41:48
Speaker 9: I mean it actually also makes Andrew for terrible television.
41:51
Speaker 9: There's nothing worse than listening and watching an interview where
41:56
Speaker 9: the subject is being absolutely schooled, like you know, there's
42:00
Speaker 9: sort of student in a classroom. It's not the first
42:03
Speaker 9: time though, we've seen this sort of bias interjected. Basically,
42:06
Speaker 9: what the ABC does is they bring their bias into
42:09
Speaker 9: the workplace. I don't know if you remember it happened
42:12
Speaker 9: last year when the Liberal Party unveiled its nuclear policy.
42:15
Speaker 9: Ted O'Brien went on on the ABC and the exact
42:19
Speaker 9: same thing happened with his interview with Sarah ferguson The
42:21
Speaker 9: guy couldn't even get a word in the shadow at
42:24
Speaker 9: Housing Minister last year, Michael Suker was asked by Sarah Ferguson,
42:28
Speaker 9: what would your mother say that the man couldn't even get.
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Speaker 3: A word in.
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Speaker 9: Exactly and it just again, it makes for terrible television,
42:37
Speaker 9: but it's another example of the institutional bias that we
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Speaker 9: keep paying for, and they want more money from us.
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Speaker 2: It sounds at times that the ABC's absolutely terrified that
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Speaker 2: the subject they're trying to smash might it listened to
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Speaker 2: by their audience, So we can't have that, you know,
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Speaker 2: go screaming over the top of them. Mia a report
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Speaker 2: of talking earlier in the show about the First People's
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Speaker 2: Assembly of Victoria complaining it wasn't consulted by the Victorian
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Speaker 2: government when it decided to get tough on crime. But
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Speaker 2: makes you wonder how tough Victoria's, how tough Australia is really.
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Speaker 2: Victoria's Department of Justice and Community Safety is just that
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Speaker 2: two violent young offenders who were on community corrections orders
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Speaker 2: for carjackings and home invasions let them fly to Queensland
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Speaker 2: for a holiday and get this a holiday reportedly paid
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Speaker 2: for by the National Disability Insurance Scheme. What does this
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Speaker 2: tell you.
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Speaker 8: Well, it just shows that Victoria's criminal justice system is
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Speaker 8: an absolute joke and that we do not respect victims
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Speaker 8: of crime here in this state. I mean, it's pretty
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Speaker 8: ironic that we had the Victorian Attorney General just on
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Speaker 8: the weekend out talking about how tough Victoria's are bail
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Speaker 8: laws are, and a few days later this story brokes
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Speaker 8: We've got these young offenders out there having fun in
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Speaker 8: the sun up in Queensland, Like the whole is an
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Speaker 8: absolute joke. The system is there to keep the community
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Speaker 8: safe and there are too many people who in Victoria
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Speaker 8: who are genuinely concerned for their safety and they are
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Speaker 8: getting tired that they are not getting listened to by
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Speaker 8: those they trust to represent them to ensure that they
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Speaker 8: are kept safe. Just take one look at the Bail
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Speaker 8: bench book that was updated last month which advised judges
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Speaker 8: are in sentencing youth offenders should have minimal intervention so
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Speaker 8: as to not lead to further harm for those offenders. Well,
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Speaker 8: what's ironic to me is we are so concerned about
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Speaker 8: the harm being brought on our offenders that we're forgotten
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Speaker 8: about the harm that's been brought on the victims of crime.
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Speaker 8: And they should be at the center of our criminal
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Speaker 8: justice system and they are being forgotten.
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Speaker 2: It's weird, isn't an inequa? If anyone should be sent
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Speaker 2: for a risk and recovery in Queensland. It should be
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Speaker 2: the victims of the crime, not the criminals.
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Speaker 9: Honestly, you know, if it wasn't so serious, Andrew, you'd
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Speaker 9: think that this whole affair is an absolute comedy skit.
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Speaker 9: It is just a rolling series of erarors.
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Speaker 3: How is it that we have.
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Speaker 9: Got violent youth offenders now swanning about at theme parks
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Speaker 9: of the Gold Coast and only a month ago a
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Speaker 9: fifteen year old boy who was accused of home invasions
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Speaker 9: was let out on bail because the magistrate they're in Victoria,
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Speaker 9: agreed that he was allowed to go on his family
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Speaker 9: holiday to Europe because the parents were pleading with the court, well,
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Speaker 9: we can't go on this family holiday if he's not
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Speaker 9: allowed to be on bail or if he's got bail conditions,
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Speaker 9: and the magistrates said yes, so off they trotted on
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Speaker 9: their family vacation to Europe. I mean, nothing makes sense about.
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Speaker 3: What's going on.
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Speaker 9: And can I also just make a point given the
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Speaker 9: fact that it came from the ndis that it was
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Speaker 9: funded by the National Disability Insurance Scheme. Once again we
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Speaker 9: are seeing this scheme is an absolute behemoth. Let's not
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Speaker 9: forget it was designed for the most severely disabled and
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Speaker 9: now it's apparently funding trips for youth offenders to go
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Speaker 9: on a holiday and we're.
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Speaker 3: Paying for it. It's getting worse and worse. Between the
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Speaker 3: roughts and now this.
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Speaker 9: It is very clear that Labor has not got control
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Speaker 9: of this scheme at all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the NDAs says it's looking into these allegations, but
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Speaker 2: it seems to be correct. We'll see that if this
46:19
Speaker 2: is what it's for. No wonder I thought the Labor
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Speaker 2: government had said it was cracking down on some of
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Speaker 2: the spending of this NDIS, which is way out of control. Mia.
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Speaker 2: There's been so much churn and turmoil among coalition leaders.
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Speaker 2: You Susan leeon strife, the Victorian Liberal leader today replaced
46:38
Speaker 2: the new South Wales Liberal leader said today to be
46:41
Speaker 2: in danger of a challenge himself. Today the New South
46:44
Speaker 2: Wales Nationals also got a new leader. But here's some
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Speaker 2: good news. Gurmash Singh is his name. He's a blueberry
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Speaker 2: and macadamia farmer. His great grandfather came here from India
46:54
Speaker 2: around one hundred and fifty thirty years ago. Reporters that
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Speaker 2: I was calling him, Oh, this is the first Indian
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Speaker 2: or the first seek Australian to lead a political party here,
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Speaker 2: but he would have nothing to do with that claim.
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Speaker 1: Listen, look, I don't think I am defined as that.
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Speaker 3: I've never seen myself as anything but Ozzie.
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Speaker 2: He's also as said in an interview, you know, I'm
47:16
Speaker 2: sick of being called an Indian. How many more generations
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Speaker 2: does it have to be before I stop being an
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Speaker 2: Indian Australian just on Australia Mia. This is right, he
47:25
Speaker 2: wants everyone to think about this isn't a time that
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Speaker 2: we ended this folly of dividing ourselves to the Indian Australians,
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Speaker 2: Chinese Australians, Anglo Australians, Aboriginal Australians.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. And I just say
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Speaker 8: how refreshing it is to have a political leader who
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Speaker 8: actually stands up there and says, I'm proud to be Australian.
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Speaker 8: I'm on Team Australia and that's how I want to
47:47
Speaker 8: be recognized. I mean, we have our own Prime minister
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Speaker 8: who can't even stand in front of the Australian flag
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Speaker 8: on National Flag Day. It is so disappointing and it
47:56
Speaker 8: doesn't represent the views of mainstream Australians. Mainstream Australians are
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Speaker 8: tired of being divided by race, They're tired of being
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Speaker 8: divided by gender, by ethnicity. This is the kind of
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Speaker 8: leadership they're looking for, to say, we are all here
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Speaker 8: on Team Australia and it's about time that we were
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Speaker 8: all proud of that.
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Speaker 2: Janika, give us ten seconds of your best.
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Speaker 9: Well, I just think that this actually should be an
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Speaker 9: example of when you come to this country, you should
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Speaker 9: be a proud Australian, You should be Australia first, and
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Speaker 9: you should respect our values.
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Speaker 3: So all powered to him. I agree. I think it's
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Speaker 3: very refreshing.
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Speaker 2: Well good on him. I really appreciate those sentiments of
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Speaker 2: his Anika to Georgia and Mierschliff, thank you very much
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Speaker 2: to you both. That's it for me, Sherry Markson Now
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Speaker 2: good night,