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FAUCI, THE FIFTH, & THE FAILURE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO QUESTION THEIR SOURCES OF INFORMATION · For The Defense With Brad Koffel

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  Speaker 1: General, did you watch any Tony Fauci's testimony in the
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  Speaker 1: Rand of the un Paul here, thank you the Rand
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  Speaker 1: Paul hearing.
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  Speaker 2: I did, thoughts well, first of all, there's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of misinformation going on. Everyone's saying that because he
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  Speaker 2: was pardoned, he cannot take the Fifth Amendments. That's not
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  Speaker 2: really true.
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  Speaker 1: He was I agree with you that.
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  Speaker 2: He was federally pardoned, and there's a lot of state
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  Speaker 2: charges that could be brought. And if if if he
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  Speaker 2: was talking to someone in Maryland over the phone and
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  Speaker 2: then gave misinformation over the phone, you know that there
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  Speaker 2: there could be a prosecution from the States.
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  Speaker 3: So he is wise to.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. So let's talk about let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about that. So let's put our criminal defense layer's hat,
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  Speaker 1: our criminal defense lawyer hats on. We don't spend a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time on the show talking from the criminal
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  Speaker 1: defense perspective. But Tony Fauci walks in to our office
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  Speaker 1: and said, I have a subpoena to go testify before
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  Speaker 1: the Senate, and it is a committee run by Rand
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  Speaker 1: Paul and it has been his personal and senatorial mission.
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  Speaker 3: To put me in jail.
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  Speaker 1: You ha to pulverize me. Now, first question that every lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what I do. I don't know about. I can't
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  Speaker 1: speak to other criminal fencilers. What I do is I look,
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  Speaker 1: I have two playbooks. Playbook A. Is I am actually
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  Speaker 1: factually legally innocent. I'm telling you, as my my advisor,
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  Speaker 1: my counselor my lawyer, my advocate. I'm telling you I
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  Speaker 1: did not do anything illegally. I'm telling you in the
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  Speaker 1: most serious form that I can. I'm not guilty. I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the sociopaths who can rationalize a legal conduct.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's that's plan A. That's uh playbook A. Then
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  Speaker 1: we have playbook B. Playbook B is I'm actually factually
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  Speaker 1: legally guilty of some or all of what they're saying.
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  Speaker 1: And I what I've done for thirty three years, and
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  Speaker 1: I think this is the best way to handle as
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  Speaker 1: a criminal fence layers I got I need to know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know you from I don't know you from Adam.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know you. I don't know you at all.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't in the room when it happened. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But I in order for me to apply my my
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  Speaker 1: education training experience. I need to know which playbook are
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  Speaker 1: we opening, Playbook A or playbook B. Playbook A, I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually factually legally innocent, playbook B, I'm actually factually legally
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  Speaker 1: guilty of some or all of what they are saying. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if Anthony and I'm sure Fauci's has been referred Tony
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  Speaker 1: Fauci has been referred to a lawyer. And I did
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  Speaker 1: a real quick surface investigation on this lawyer and appears
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  Speaker 1: to be a lawyer that has has some chops. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that they are I don't I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if this guy kind of grew up in the in
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  Speaker 1: the criminal court houses. A lot of guys who are
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  Speaker 1: in the DC New York circuit, and you know this general.
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  Speaker 1: These guys, they have one big case or two big cases,
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  Speaker 1: and then they have a bunch of clients coming at them,
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  Speaker 1: and they hire associates and they stop going to thank you.
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  Speaker 1: They stopped going to court. Okay, they stopped going to court.
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  Speaker 1: We know these guys, and it's tempting. But the best
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  Speaker 1: lawyers criminal defenseler A, the ones that stay in the
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  Speaker 1: courtroom you go do your her own work.
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  Speaker 3: Got a sharper the knife, and.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if his lawyer is one of those guys.
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  Speaker 1: I'd have to find out. When was the last time
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  Speaker 1: you actually tried a criminal case to jury verdict?
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  Speaker 3: That was Menendez? Okay, he was Bob Menendez.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So he's there, all right. So so Tony's with
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  Speaker 1: the guy. He's with Tony Fauci. I'm not gonna come
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  Speaker 1: to I'm not gonna call him doctor. I guess he
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  Speaker 1: is a doctor, but I don't he's lost the honorific
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  Speaker 1: for me. Anthony Fauci undoubtedly has talked to a handful
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  Speaker 1: of lawyers and they've all shepherded him to this particular lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: And according to my friend Senator Bernie Marino, who I
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  Speaker 1: did communicate with shortly after he toasted Anthony Fauci, I
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  Speaker 1: dropped the F bomb on him. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I told Senator Marina, I go thank you from the
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  Speaker 1: millions of us in America that knew this was BS
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  Speaker 1: from the beginning, that we were being lied to, that
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: we were being that this issue alone fractured communities, families,
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  Speaker 1: shut down schools. You know, we don't need to go
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: through the I don't need to go through the list
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  Speaker 1: of Protestations. I'm not going to hammer them to and
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  Speaker 1: nail them to the door like Martin Martin Luther did
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  Speaker 1: to the Catholic Church. But dag on Bernie went, Senator
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  Speaker 1: Marino went, said what needed to be set.
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  Speaker 2: It's nice to be able to say Senator Bernie and
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  Speaker 2: not mean Sanders.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, Senator Bernie Marino from Ohio. And he said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he would mind me saying this. He said,
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  Speaker 1: I waited six years for those ten minutes. And I know.
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  Speaker 1: I know that when he was private citizen Bernie Marino.
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  Speaker 1: I know because I was involved in his campaign before
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  Speaker 1: he even announced that he was going to run the
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  Speaker 1: first time. Why are you doing this?
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Why? You are a very successful man. You have a
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  Speaker 1: lovely family, you have a lot of hay in the barn,
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  Speaker 1: You've got businesses, You've got a lot going for you.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you Why are you going to Why do
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  Speaker 1: you want to go into public service? Why? The US Senate?
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  Speaker 1: He said, Because it's going to take somebody with common
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  Speaker 1: sense who can weather the storm, that can make it
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  Speaker 1: to the point where I can be in the on
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  Speaker 1: the floor of the Senate and I can put doctor
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  Speaker 1: Falcacci under oath and ask him specific questions about the
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: origins of COVID gain of function research, which was which
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  Speaker 1: was illegal in the United States. Were we subsidizing man
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  Speaker 1: made viruses? How big of a role does the American
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  Speaker 1: government have to play this? What exactly happened? Because for
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  Speaker 1: Senator Marino, it was watching parents get handcuffed and let
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: off playing fields out there, kicking soccer ball with their kids,
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: trying to get outside and get some recreation. That put
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  Speaker 1: him over the top. And that's when he said, you
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  Speaker 1: got to have someone who's going to weather the storm,
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  Speaker 1: that can go through it and self fund and make it.
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  Speaker 1: And he did. And I've never been prouder to know
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  Speaker 1: somebody other than my Navy Sealed Team six. Buddy. There
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  Speaker 1: are very few men that I hold on a pedestal
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  Speaker 1: for the sacrifices that they've made for the rest of us.
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  Speaker 1: And he unites. State Senator Bernie Marino is one of
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  Speaker 1: those very few.
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  Speaker 2: And doesn't this really put the stink on all those
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  Speaker 2: leftists who are out there saying that prosecutions and these
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  Speaker 2: sorts of things are not political. Remember when they when
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  Speaker 2: they took in Steve Steve Bannon and made sure that
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  Speaker 2: he testified and all that sort of stuff. And when
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  Speaker 2: he didn't come down to testify like they wanted him
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  Speaker 2: to do it without the burden of a pardon, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, or the having a pardon in his pocket,
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  Speaker 2: that's they put him in jail for three years. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't spend the whole three years in jail. He got out,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for good time and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back to what we were just talking about.
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  Speaker 1: So Anthony Fauci, and I'm dropping the honorific of doctor
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci, gets shepherded over to this particular lawyer who
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  Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. He's not a lawyer that had
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  Speaker 1: a big case. And then you know, checked out. He's
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  Speaker 1: actually in the court. He knows how the system works.
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  Speaker 1: And go back to our playbooks, Playbook Gay, playbook B.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that he's told his lawyer, I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually factually legally guilty Playbook B. Because between the two playbooks,
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  Speaker 1: if you're actually factually legally innocent, you go tell the
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  Speaker 1: world that you're innocent. And as Reverend doctor Reverend Martin
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  Speaker 1: Luther King Junior is in, the truth will set you free.
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  Speaker 1: The truth will not convict you if the truth is
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  Speaker 1: you didn't commit any crimes, welcome back to for the
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  Speaker 1: defense of the American people. I am Attorney Brad Coaffel.
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  Speaker 1: That is the snarkmaster General. We're talking about Anthony Fauci's
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  Speaker 1: decision to go to court. He had to go to
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  Speaker 1: he had to go to the Senate. He get I'm
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  Speaker 1: curious how they got it served with the subpoena because
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  Speaker 1: that's one of those You can't get to the US
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  Speaker 1: Senate without a subpoena. I would have had I would
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  Speaker 1: have had Tony Fauci on an indefinite vacation in someplace
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  Speaker 1: on the other side of the world. At this point,
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  Speaker 1: he's eighty five years old.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know he's eighty five, is he No, let's look
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  Speaker 3: that up.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get back there. He's an old man. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if he's eighty five, but I would say I'd say, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: get yourself a one way ticket to Switzerland, Vietnam, uh
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  Speaker 1: Costa Rica, a boat in the middle of the Pacific.
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  Speaker 1: Just get yourself a one way ticket and make your
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  Speaker 1: and do not take service of any subpoena to appear
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  Speaker 1: before the United States Senate don't even order a pizza,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: don't do anything cash only, you know, just shave your head,
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  Speaker 1: grow a beard. Whatever. Well, they got him served, wear
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: a mask. They got him served right, and so he
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: probably spent countless hours in his lawyer's office talking about
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  Speaker 1: his non testimony. I mean those conversations. I'm gonna I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna put myself in the room between Tony Fauci and
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  Speaker 1: his lawyer in the legal team. He's probably the type
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  Speaker 1: of client that that is going to tell it's probably
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: a very difficult client. He's probably telling his lawyers. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I can explain this, I can explain this. Just let
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  Speaker 1: me talk. I can explain this.
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  Speaker 2: They're going no, no, no, take your bottom lip and
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  Speaker 2: press it firmly into your upper lip, and then we
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: can only hurt the ball club.
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  Speaker 1: And we, as the criminal defense layers, we go, okay,
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  Speaker 1: tell us what you would say. And he he, he
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  Speaker 1: tries to talk and rationalize.
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  Speaker 3: What he did when we have that little claqueson by, and.
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  Speaker 1: He tries to explain away his diary. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: there is a there's a narcissism, a trait that runs
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  Speaker 1: through Anthony Fauci, and that narcissism trait that runs through
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  Speaker 1: most of my clients who can't see reality. They can't
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  Speaker 1: see that. Look. Not everybody loves you, Not everybody thinks
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  Speaker 1: you're the truth teller. The jury is not going to
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  Speaker 1: acquit you because they like you. The public's not going
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  Speaker 1: to quit you because they like you. Tony. People no
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  Speaker 1: longer trust you. Millions of Americans never trust you to
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  Speaker 1: begin with. The other half of America is now woken
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  Speaker 1: up and realized this really was what most of us,
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: what many of us said in the beginning, and on
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  Speaker 1: this show. I went back and listened to our shows
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  Speaker 1: from March and April and May of twenty twenty. In general,
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: we hit the nail on the head. We called it.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't take a rocket science to figure scientists to
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  Speaker 1: figure out that maybe this, uh, this this virus that
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  Speaker 1: had not yet jumped from the in the animal kingdom
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  Speaker 1: over to the human being, that maybe it did come
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: from the lab that was studying how it might mutate
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  Speaker 1: to a human being.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 2: I was in Hershey, Pennsylvania once, and I saw all
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: these Hurshey bars everywhere. It just it was it was
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: a strange coincidence that they also had a Hershey bar
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  Speaker 2: making factory.
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  Speaker 1: There. So Anthony Fauci sits before the Senate Committee Senate
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  Speaker 1: Committee and repeatedly declines to answer questions on Fifth Amendment grounds.
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  Speaker 1: He had no choice because he got served. The biggest,
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: the biggest when he lost is when he got served
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  Speaker 1: with the subpoena. He no doubt his lawyers had to
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  Speaker 1: have told him, Tony, get out of town, get out
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  Speaker 1: of the country, one way ticket. No no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, he gets served. Well, once you're served, you
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  Speaker 1: got to show up. As you already mentioned, Steve Bannon
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  Speaker 1: and others, they've already set the president.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: You who else set the president on this?
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  Speaker 2: Were all these newscasters who when Donald Trump took the
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  Speaker 2: Fifth Amendment several times during a deposition, again without the
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  Speaker 2: benefit of a pardon, they said that Fifth Amendments only
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  Speaker 2: for criminals.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden, it shoes on the other foot,
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  Speaker 2: it's for everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: So he gets served, which was failure number one. He
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  Speaker 1: shows up and invokes the Fifth That's the only thing
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  Speaker 1: it could have done. He couldn't concede that there was
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: carpet on the floor, He couldn't concede that he was
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: wearing a tie. He wouldn't even look around behind him,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: as Senator Marino asked him to do, just turn around
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: and look at the people who were deep platforms censored
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  Speaker 1: lost their credentials because of what you were saying into
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  Speaker 1: your celebrity megaphone.
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  Speaker 2: He should have bought Dave Chappelle in there with him
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  Speaker 2: to plead the fifth Remember that that's.
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  Speaker 1: A great, great skit. Great skitwith his performance may yet
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  Speaker 1: produce a criminal referral. Now let me let me mention
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  Speaker 1: this about criminal referrals. American people, we're tired of hearing
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: about criminal referrals. We want to see convictions in prison. Well,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: it starts with a referral, but right, and then they
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: go to die. A criminal referral is where federalized, a
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: criminal conduct that gets federalized goes to die. Criminal referrals
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  Speaker 1: is where criminal conduct that gets federalized goes to die.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Who goes to prison? Bob and Anddez went to prison,
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  Speaker 1: uh and.
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  Speaker 3: And Steve Bannon.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: When you get caught, Bob, when you actually get caught
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: with gold bars from Egypt, the proof of the bribery
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: is right there. It took gold bars.
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  Speaker 3: In gold bars in the pockets of fur coats, it took.
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  Speaker 1: That level of unsophistication. When you're that brazen, that means
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  Speaker 1: that this has been going on a very very long time.
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  Speaker 3: See, the Clintons did it right. They started a foundation.
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  Speaker 1: You got to run it all through foundation.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and then you just get all the benefits of
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: the foundation. If the foundation has a condo that looks
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: out over Malibu, than.
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  Speaker 3: There you are.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to have I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how many more shows we're going to have to do,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: but eventually it's going to click for everyone. It's going
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to click, and they're going to realize that the centralization
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: of power over centuries has shown that the for profit
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: commercial interests mixed with political centralized power equals corruption over
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: its own people. It's just a matter of time. They
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: take our money to do their pet projects of which
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: they benefit directly or directly somehow.
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  Speaker 3: And some of it may be stuff they believe in.
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  Speaker 1: They take our they take our boys and young women
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  Speaker 1: to go fight their wars. Right there is This has
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: been going on since the age of Empire. For the
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: last five or six hundred years, every imperial every empire
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: wanna be Starting in Spain, Portugal, the Dutch Republic, England
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: slash Great Britain. It's all been a for profit incentive.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: And then they get cloaked with the Royal Charter or
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: they can sail under the flag of their country and
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: they get some sort of political immunity from their criminal wrongdoings.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: And this has been going on since Christopher Columbus chopped
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: off the hands of the of the naked and afraid
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: indigenous tribes that came to greet team to greet the
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: ships down on the Caribbean. The the in the name
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  Speaker 1: of the people, in the name of the crown. Now
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it's in the name of the people. Crimes are committed daily,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: but the only people that actually get convicted are the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: schmucks like Menendez that has gold bars and there. You know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: every other senator is like, oh, don't come looking over here, Please,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: don't come looking over here. Every senator and congressman has been.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: They were holding their breath. Please Bob, plead guilty, Bob,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Please please Bob, don't testify, pop, please take the deal. Right, So,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: what has Donald Trump done? He is King Kong and
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: he's come into Manhattan and he's just he's destroying And
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: that's what we loved about it. I didn't like King
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Kong in the beginning. I didn't like Trump in the beginning,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: but I saw what he was doing. He was a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: giant wrecking machine. Now the question is he is he
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: rowing his own boat on the river of power and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: financial incentive and financial riches. Nope, great argument can be
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  Speaker 1: made there. But I want to get back to Fauci
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  Speaker 1: and I want to get back to the summer of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Because of major issue, a major, major heart
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  Speaker 1: attack happened in American society. We're not no one's talking about,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and I want to talk about that next on Brad Kaufell.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: For the defense of the American people in general, is
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: there anyone in particular we should thank for picking up
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the production costs of our show.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Give me anybody. Let me think of some people. They're
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: sly north of here.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: They believe in America, they believe in the American way,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: they believe in capitalism.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: They believe in America using a.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Good product at a good price.
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  Speaker 1: Doing what they You say you're going to do. One
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: of those people.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: One of those people, and they've got a lot of
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: cars for sale up there.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Uh chess, run chess.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, these are these are that it's a c H E.
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  Speaker 3: S R O W N.
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  Speaker 1: I saw you had to close your eyes somewhere, concentrate
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and not get it wrong. I keep putting keep a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Q in there. Thank you, the Gill family. And I'm
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: on a text thread. I've got a handful of text
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  Speaker 1: threads with some uh people that I respect and trust
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  Speaker 1: and thank god I got our little community. And Ryan
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Gill is on one of the text threads. And I
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  Speaker 1: tell you what if if you if you don't trust
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  Speaker 1: anything coming out of the media, you don't trust anything
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  Speaker 1: coming out of DC, and you want to support a
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: small business, an American small business, get up to chuz
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: around and do your car shopping up there, used and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: new I am. I can't say enough about them. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you very much, wonderful, wonderful family. Now back to Anthony Fauci.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I'm dropping doctor. He loses the honorific with me. Here's
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: what has happened. Anthony Fauci sits before that Senate committee
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  Speaker 1: invokes the fifth over one hundred times. There may still
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  Speaker 1: be a criminal referral for obstructing Congress. We don't care
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  Speaker 1: about criminal referrals. He's eighty five. The guy ain't going
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  Speaker 1: to prison, right, And as much as I detest how
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  Speaker 1: he handled and what he did and what he said,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't, he doesn't belong in prison. And he's
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  Speaker 1: eighty five. If he was sixty five or fifty five
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  Speaker 1: or you know, maybe, but eighty five. What's happening to
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci's being punished now, and the purpose of criminal
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  Speaker 1: justice system is to punish. That's happening, to rehabilitate. He's
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  Speaker 1: eighty five. There's no rehabilitation, and to deter others. I'm
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  Speaker 1: hoping that what's happening is that the federal system of
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  Speaker 1: being able to get into Congress and trade on inside information,
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  Speaker 1: that that business is over. I'm hoping that the federal
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  Speaker 1: bureaucrats who want to come out like Anthony Fauci did
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  Speaker 1: and say this is science, trust the science and the
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  Speaker 1: American people, and the next time are not going to
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  Speaker 1: be so quick to say, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't just trust the science. It was how
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  Speaker 2: dare you question me?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Well? It was the technic It was what we got
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: was a big lesson in technocracy, technocrats and technocracy, and
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  Speaker 1: the technocrats managed the American pandemic response. It was Fauci
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  Speaker 1: who ascended to the status of secular saint. The guy
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  Speaker 1: was on vote of candles, you know, his image was
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  Speaker 1: on vote of candles, on socks.
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  Speaker 3: Tote bags, not anymore.
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  Speaker 1: On people who politically pride themselves on skepticism toward authority.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I think we need to say this was the flip flop.
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  Speaker 1: This is worth sitting with because it is genuinely strange.
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  Speaker 1: The progressive left is supposed to distrust unaccountable state power.
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  Speaker 1: Yet here was a career bureaucrat immune to elections, exercising
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  Speaker 1: more practical control over the daily lives of Americans than
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  Speaker 1: perhaps any unelected official in memory. And a significant part
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  Speaker 1: of the political left responded with devotion.
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  Speaker 2: There's no other word for it. When you were walking
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  Speaker 2: down the aisles of your local Kroger and they had
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  Speaker 2: arrows on the floor telling you which way you should
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  Speaker 2: walk in that in that aisle, as if the way
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  Speaker 2: you walked was going to keep you from getting COVID.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, And I'm I'm going to jump to There's a
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  Speaker 1: word that I want to I'm going to jump to,
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  Speaker 1: and it's called epistemology. Epistemology and epistemology is thinking about
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you think about it this way. It's a big word
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  Speaker 1: e p I s t e m O l o
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  Speaker 1: g yologize. Ology means the study of and epistome ep
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  Speaker 1: e t e m e is Greek for knowledge, So
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: this is literally the study of knowledge, study of how
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  Speaker 1: you gain your knowledge. So think about it this way.
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  Speaker 1: You believe a lot of things. You believe the earth orbits,
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  Speaker 1: the sun. You've never personally done an experiment. You believe
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it's going to rain tomorrow. You believe we land it
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  Speaker 1: on the moon. Epistemology is the branch of philosophy that
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  Speaker 1: asks how do you actually know that? What makes it
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  Speaker 1: a fact versus something you feel is just is true?
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  Speaker 1: So epistemology digs into questions like what's the difference between
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  Speaker 1: really knowing something and just believing it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, iin Ram said, epistemology is a is a that's
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  Speaker 2: you've got to start there.
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  Speaker 3: You can't.
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  Speaker 2: You have to have definitions for things that you can't
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  Speaker 2: just go redefining your your your way around like this,
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  Speaker 2: what is a man?
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  Speaker 3: What is a woman?
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  Speaker 1: This a is a And this is where the American
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  Speaker 1: this is where the bosses the American people, This is
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  Speaker 1: where we failed. I've give us I give our country
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  Speaker 1: an F for the last six years, well certainly twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two an F because we're the bosses,
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  Speaker 1: We're the ones in control, and we have ceded so
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  Speaker 1: much to the centralization of power. And here's a question
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  Speaker 1: almost nobody asked themselves consistently over the last six years.
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  Speaker 1: How do I actually know this is true? Does the
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  Speaker 1: answer change depending upon who told me.
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  Speaker 3: So?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: This is where we get the division between CNN and Fox, MSNBC,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and the independent podcast World, the conservative podcast not. Is
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: this claim consistent with what my side believes? Not? Does
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the person saying this seem trustworthy in subtribal sense? But
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: much narrower, the much harder question, what is the chain
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  Speaker 1: of evidence connecting Anthony Fauci's claim to reality to truth?
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  Speaker 1: And would I believe it if the exact same chain
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  Speaker 1: of evidence came from a source I distrusted. That's where
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: America failed. We stopped questioning the sources of the information,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and almost know on on either side, the right or
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the left, actually ran an epistemology test. What we ran
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: instead was a loyalty to test disguised as an evidence test.
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  Speaker 1: If the CDC said it, a large percentage of the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: country updated themselves towards believing it, not because they'd independently
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: assessed the CDC's track record, but because the CDC was
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: for them a trusted source proxy. If Fox News said it,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a different, large percentage of country updated their belief system
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  Speaker 1: the same way for the same reason, with the brand
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: simply swapped. In neither case was anyone actually doing epistemology.
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  Speaker 1: Millions of Americans were doing tribal pattern matching thinking it
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  Speaker 1: was critical thinking. They were calling it critical thinking. It's
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: not critical thinking. That was the failure. And this is
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  Speaker 1: what we've tried to do on our show General over
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  Speaker 1: the last decade is to not engage in tribal pattern matching,
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  Speaker 1: but engage in critical thinking. And the failure to think
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  Speaker 1: critically independently is the actual failure of the American people
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  Speaker 1: in mass over the last six years. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: trusting a source is not in itself irrational. Nobody General
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  Speaker 1: has the time or expertise to independently verify every claim
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  Speaker 1: out there, So you must rely on institutions. We must
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: rely on experts. It's a reasonable shortcut, and the first
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: shortcut we all got to with COVID was what about
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: herd immunity? What about mask efficacy? What about the origins
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  Speaker 1: of the virus?
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  Speaker 3: What about common sense?
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  Speaker 1: Those three came timestamped with a political persuasion the progressive left,
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  Speaker 1: and once the progressive left time stamped it, its actual
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: EVIDENCEI your equality became almost irrelevant to how it was received. Well.
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  Speaker 2: There were signs of this back when the CDC was
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: quoting gun studies and saying that guns were a health problem.
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  Speaker 2: Guns aren't germs, they're not viruses, they're not well.
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  Speaker 1: This is called source blindness. It's not ignorance of where
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: information comes from, but a refusal to let the answer
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  Speaker 1: to that question do any real work beyond signaling which
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: side you believe. It is self reinforcing. Once you've accepted
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a claim because your tribe is vouched for it, encountering
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: contrary evidence is not new information. It has to be repelled.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: What the American people need to take away from the
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  Speaker 1: last six years is question the source of the information.
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  Speaker 1: Question the source. We trusted the sources of information way
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  Speaker 1: too much. We trusted the institutions, we trusted the experts,
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  Speaker 1: When the millions of us rational thinkers, we're looking at
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the other half of the country also rational thinkers, and
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: we're saying, uh, will you please look at the evidence
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: behind herd immunity? Heard immunity seems to make sense. Will
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: you please look at these for a long time? Lack
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of efficacy of cloth masks? Please? Will you please look
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: at the efficacy of six foot social distancing? Please? This
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: is not a political conversation. This is a epistemological conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It is a study of your knowledge. Where are you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: getting your information that cloth masks work? Where are you
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: getting your information that herd immunity won't work here? Where
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: are you getting your information that sick that six foot
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: that six feet social distancing has some scientific.
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  Speaker 3: Basis When they admitted it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't. There isn't. And that's why the one half
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: of the country went mad and the other half of
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the country got mad at that country at the other
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: half going mad. People lost their minds ear And then
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: you factor in the George Floyd riot, George Floyd situation
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: that was right on top of COVID, that was a
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: summer twenty twenty. George Floyd was George Floyd's death needed
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  Speaker 1: to be litigated through the rules of evidence in a
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  Speaker 1: public jury trial. It was litigated and Derek Chauvin was
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: found guilty as he should have been. George Floyd also
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  Speaker 1: stood for systemic racism and that what happened while we
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: are in the state of flux with COVID and the
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: institutional thinking is that systemic racism is also ever present
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  Speaker 1: and all powerful and must be eradicated, and it starts
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: with white races. And so many of us who were
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: born with white skin, Caucasian skin, wanted to look at
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  Speaker 1: the George Floyd case homicide as it was. Let's charged
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  Speaker 1: as a homicide, and it was homicide from the first
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  Speaker 1: time I saw the first time I watched the body
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  Speaker 1: cam or the phone cam like that is that's reckless.
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  Speaker 1: What was happening?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: He he should not have died. I have zero, zero
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  Speaker 1: issues with Jerry's verdict.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I got a lot of issues with it. He was
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: a he had way too he had so much ventanyl
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: in his system. It would have killed a horse. There's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: no way they could have gotten him out of that situation.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: He was. But here's the thing they here's the good thing,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: here's what saves us. The case was presented very well
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: by both sides the state of Minnesota, and his lawyer
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: did a bang up job and he was found guilty.
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  Speaker 1: So at this goes to epistemology. I subscribe to the
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  Speaker 1: belief that once the jury says he's guilty, it's a
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  Speaker 1: matter of fact. He's guilty, a matter of legal fact.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Right now, what happened with George Floyd is that mayors
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: of these big cities decided to politicize the George Floyd homicide,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the George Floyd death, and we started getting into discussions
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  Speaker 1: of defunding the police departments.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Which is now metastasized into abolishing the police department.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: And so those of us who those of the millions
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  Speaker 1: of Americans whose minds were already blown about herd immunity,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: cloth masks, six foot social distancing, closing the schools, and
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: now we're gonna say, because of George Floyd's death, we
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: need to abolish, we need to defund police departments. And wow,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't You could not have put a
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: bigger you couldn't have injected into America in the summer
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty more cultural Marxism. It was a brilliant
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: whoever was behind all this brilliant, brilliant, and I don't
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: think it was one conniming, you know, James bond Villain effort.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: It was a group effort. It for sure was a
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: group effort.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: And we even had a baseline. South Dakota never closed
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: their schools.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: It was a baseline. I'm sorry it was a group effort.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you there's still a part of me
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that believes it goes back to the unwanted, unwelcome, non
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: consensual election of Donald Trump in twenty sixteen. The system,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the federal system got assaulted by Donald Trump. They didn't
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: consent to him coming in. They didn't want him in. Uh,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: that was an unwelcome, unwanted, non consensual assault on the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: on the federal system and their party, not their political party,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: their party and every their uniparty and everything there were then.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: And the chips, the chips fell where they may. You could.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: You either saw what was going on or you didn't.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: And if you didn't see what was going on, shame
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: on you. And if you still don't see what's going on,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: shame on you. What's that saying, general, fool me once.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice? Shame
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: on me.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Eventually, maybe it'll be our grandkids, maybe it'll be a
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: generation after that. Eventually, the truth is going to come
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: out that the entire sixty four square miles of the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: village of the District of Columbia is a corrupt, corrosive
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: ecosystem of American.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Eco or ecosystem both.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Of a modern day feudalism with nobles and lords, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: they live lavishly and the entire system supports their special
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: interests and them and not the peasant, not the working class,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: and not the people. And look, I'm a one percenter,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I'm a I'm economically I'm the top one percent. I'm
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a middle aged white guy, lawyer, highly educated, a student.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I think I'm objective. And I'm telling you this is
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: this system has been great to me and my family.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: It's been great. It's been great to the Kffels. But
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's a it's an empire, and it's
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: an imperial city, it's an imperial nation. And at some
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: point in time, Yeah, the check's going to come down.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: At some point in time, the bill is coming. The
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: bill is coming, and someone's going to pay for it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Someone's going to pay for this that's been going on,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be it's going to be our kids
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: or their kids or their grandkids, but someone's gonna pay
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  Speaker 1: m