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The Late Debate | 5 May · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome the Late Debate. Good evening and welcome to the program.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Caleb Bond with Liz Storer and filling in for
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  Speaker 2: tonight James McPherson is Danika di Giorgio, who, of course
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  Speaker 2: you can see as one half of Doneka and James
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  Speaker 2: on a Sunday night, or two halves of Doaneka on
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  Speaker 2: a Friday night. Of course, you know, we know the
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  Speaker 2: coalition is stuffed at the moment here in this country,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a different story over in the UK, where
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  Speaker 2: Nigel Farage's Reform Party had an excellent result on the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: We'll tell you a bit more about that later on.
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  Speaker 2: In the papers, some of the coalition's biggest donors, the
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  Speaker 2: Liberal Party's biggest donors, are saying they may not ever
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  Speaker 2: donate to the party again, what's that telling you? And
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  Speaker 2: obviously you were watching our election coverage here on Sky
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  Speaker 2: News on Saturday night, but one of the ABC Star
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  Speaker 2: guests in its coverage has had some, let's say, rather
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  Speaker 2: not so nice things to say about the program he
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  Speaker 2: was part of. Will tidy his assessment a little bit later.
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  Speaker 2: But amongst all the other stuff that has happened in
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  Speaker 2: this election and we'll get into some.
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  Speaker 1: Of it very shortly.
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  Speaker 2: A story that you may have missed and one that
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  Speaker 2: you may well be happy about. You're not getting text
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  Speaker 2: messages from Hfong anymore from the Trumpet of Patriots telling
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  Speaker 2: you which way to vote, getting about ten of them
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  Speaker 2: a day, as we were, and you may well never
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  Speaker 2: get them again, because Clive Palmer has said it's time
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  Speaker 2: to hang up his hat. He says, after all this time.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, he started more than a decade ago, the
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  Speaker 2: Palmer United Party, and then he started the United Australia Party,
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  Speaker 2: which he for some reason de registered after the last election,
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  Speaker 2: even though he got a senator in Victoria, Ralph Babett.
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  Speaker 2: Then tried to re register it for this year and
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  Speaker 2: couldn't do so, so he started the Trumpet of Patriots,
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  Speaker 2: which by the way, pulled one point eighty five percent
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  Speaker 2: of the national votes. All those millions of dollars that
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  Speaker 2: Clive spent was basically a donation to the news media
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  Speaker 2: in the form of advertiser.
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  Speaker 1: Can we thank him for that because it's keeping us
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  Speaker 1: in work? But he says it's time.
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  Speaker 2: To say goodbye. He says, I'm seventy one and I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting too old for politics. I'd rather spend time helping
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  Speaker 2: the tens of thousands that are homeless and hungry in
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  Speaker 2: this country. That's why I've donated five million to food Bank.
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  Speaker 1: So it would seem.
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  Speaker 2: Finally it is cyanara from mister Palmer in this regard.
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  Speaker 2: And I talked about those text messages before, seventeen million
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  Speaker 2: text messages Trumpet of Patriots sent out ten thousand complaints.
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  Speaker 2: Palmer said they received about those and as I said before,
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  Speaker 2: they turned that into one point eight five percent of
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  Speaker 2: the national vote. So I'm not sure that was the
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  Speaker 2: greatest return on investment. And of course Sewell and Wrightson,
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  Speaker 2: who we kept seeing in the advertisements saying you know
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  Speaker 2: she'd be the next Prime Minister of Australia, she pulled
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  Speaker 2: three point four percent in the seat of Hunter, so
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  Speaker 2: a great success. It was againleause it seems he's finally
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  Speaker 2: woken up and decided and maybe I shouldn't piss my
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  Speaker 2: money up the wall.
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  Speaker 3: And I think this is sad.
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  Speaker 4: I like Clyve.
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  Speaker 3: I love the love.
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  Speaker 5: That he has for this country because despite what you
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  Speaker 5: think of him personally, he loves this country and that
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  Speaker 5: is why he's happy to what it looks like on
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  Speaker 5: the outside, squander tens of millions of dollars every time
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  Speaker 5: we have a federal election. Because he believes in these
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  Speaker 5: policies which many of us actually agree with, he simply
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  Speaker 5: doesn't have everything else that it takes to get something
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  Speaker 5: like this.
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  Speaker 3: Off the ground.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm sorry to see the back of him. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: this is a guy who during all that COVID nonsense,
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  Speaker 5: he was very staunchly, adamantly against it all.
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  Speaker 3: And think what you will of hydroxy chloroquin.
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  Speaker 5: My point about this is that this guy spend over
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  Speaker 5: thirty million dollars importing a ton of it before the
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  Speaker 5: TGA was like, where, we're actually not going to be
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  Speaker 5: using this to treat COVID, but thanks anyway. How many
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  Speaker 5: people do you know who would gladly do that? And
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  Speaker 5: that was a donation. He was like, I'm doing this
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  Speaker 5: off my own bat. I'm trying to help my country.
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  Speaker 5: This is something that I see as a solution. It
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  Speaker 5: turned out not to be. But he's someone who believes
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  Speaker 5: in what he believes in, and he's happy to put
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  Speaker 5: his money where his mouth is. And yet now he's
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  Speaker 5: talking about, you know what, I'm just going to go
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  Speaker 5: the philanthropic route and help all the people who don't
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  Speaker 5: have money and desperately need help in this country. That's
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  Speaker 5: the heart of the guy, and that's why I.
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  Speaker 4: Like the problem. The problem that I have with Clive
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  Speaker 4: Palmer is he doesn't know when to stop with his advertising.
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  Speaker 4: I honestly feel like he thinks that we're all sitting
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  Speaker 4: there and we get a text and he were like, yes,
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  Speaker 4: it's the trumpet of patriots. Yes, thank goodness, thank you
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  Speaker 4: for that message, when really we go, oh no, no,
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  Speaker 4: not again, please spare us. And look, I do applaud
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  Speaker 4: the guy for giving it a crack. He's tried, He's tried.
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  Speaker 4: He is a you know, like him, all owe them.
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  Speaker 4: He is actually a successful Australian businessman. You know, you
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  Speaker 4: don't get to where you are, you don't get to
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  Speaker 4: that position without having some successes. He knows what to do.
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  Speaker 4: But the problem is is he goes overboard and he
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  Speaker 4: bombards us and that's what drives us nuts. And as
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  Speaker 4: for Suellen Wrightsen, as you mentioned, Caleb dubbed Australia's next
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  Speaker 4: Prime minister look good on the ambition was out look
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  Speaker 4: the ambition. I applaud her for having the ambition. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: but now the poor woman's had to delete all of
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  Speaker 4: her social media, can't She's had enough. She doesn't want
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  Speaker 4: to you know, obviously it's been very embarrassed. But look,
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  Speaker 4: come on, the campaign overall was a full nightmare. It's
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  Speaker 4: time to go, Clive. You've given it a crack. But
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  Speaker 4: well done for bowing out.
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  Speaker 2: I think it gets me about it though, is obviously
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  Speaker 2: last election he did get a seat in the Senate
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  Speaker 2: in the form of Ralph but as I said before,
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  Speaker 2: then for some reason to register the party, and you
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  Speaker 2: could argue that in twenty nineteen the preferences flowed in
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  Speaker 2: a way from all that money he spent, you know,
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  Speaker 2: teams of millions of dollars in order to help Morrison
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  Speaker 2: get re elected.
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  Speaker 1: But what has he achieved this time?
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't think he's got anything to show for
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  Speaker 2: the money he spent this time. And that was always
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  Speaker 2: the question is what does he actually want to do?
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  Speaker 2: Because of course, you know, Trumpet and Patriots or United
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  Speaker 2: Australia Party is never going to seriously get up.
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  Speaker 1: So what was the point of spending all this money.
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  Speaker 5: I guess he figured if he could get another Ralph
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  Speaker 5: for that into the Senate or anywhere for that matter.
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  Speaker 3: Then it'd be worth it.
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  Speaker 5: I love Senator Ralph Babet is an absolute wild card.
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  Speaker 5: But when you look at the state of politics in
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  Speaker 5: this country, the more wild cards we have the better.
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  Speaker 5: He's now on the sidelines being like, I'm glad the
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  Speaker 5: Liberals lost the fake Conservatives.
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  Speaker 3: What were they going to do anyway?
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  Speaker 5: And we do we need to see a radical revamp
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  Speaker 5: of what was once the Conservative Party, and hopefully this
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  Speaker 5: catastrophic loss for the Libs is going to give birth
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  Speaker 5: to that revamp that's been a long time in coming
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  Speaker 5: and unfortunately it's just taking this catastrophe to get there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree with you, but I also do
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  Speaker 4: think Clive Palmer provided an alternative that I think that
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  Speaker 4: the Liberals should have provided. Indeed, because he was straight
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  Speaker 4: to you know, the man. When he says something, he
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  Speaker 4: says it, and that's what we needed in this country.
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  Speaker 4: So again like him, all owe him. He actually gave
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  Speaker 4: a genuine alternative which we didn't see from the Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, while we're talking about all this election stuff and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get into more of than nitty gritty now,
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  Speaker 2: you have to feel bad for Peter Datknoan, amongst all
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  Speaker 2: the other things that happened obviously, you know, the worst
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  Speaker 2: result for the Coalition since the nineteen forties, since the
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  Speaker 2: Coalition has existed. I believe he's lost his own seat
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  Speaker 2: of Dixon. So after twenty four years in politics, he's
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  Speaker 2: had to bow out of the entire game. And he
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  Speaker 2: may well be glad of that because it means he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have to hang around and deal with all the
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  Speaker 2: recriminations in the Liberal Party now. But to add insult
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  Speaker 2: to injury, we found out today that Donald Trump, the
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  Speaker 2: guy that he was linked to all through the campaign.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they kept saying what was a dogie? What
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  Speaker 2: was the line that Jim Chalmers came out with the
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  Speaker 2: dogie Dutton?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was right. I mean that they worked
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  Speaker 1: so hard the Labor.
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  Speaker 2: Party to link Peter Dutton to Donald Trump, and Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump doesn't even know the guy's name.
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  Speaker 6: Albanis.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very friendly with I haven't I don't know anything.
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  Speaker 6: About the election. He's been very very nice.
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  Speaker 3: To me, very respectful to me.
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  Speaker 6: I have no idea who the other person is that
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  Speaker 6: ran against.
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  Speaker 1: Him, And you know, we've had a very good relationship
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the poor fella, How.
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  Speaker 2: Bad must you feel after they linked.
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  Speaker 1: Him so much to Trump and Trump? I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know who he is.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting though, that he says, there, you know, I've got
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  Speaker 2: a great relationship with Alberans and they had a phone
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  Speaker 2: call today, actually Alban Easy and Donald Trump. But he's
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  Speaker 2: talking about how great the relationship with albo is and
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't even know the guy who was apparently going
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  Speaker 2: to be Trump two point zero.
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  Speaker 3: Well, why would you?
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  Speaker 5: Because I think Trump's people knew Albanezi was a sure win.
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  Speaker 5: So it's not like you're going to do any extensive
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  Speaker 5: research on the potential other prime minister.
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  Speaker 3: It was pretty obvious this was well. I always said anyway.
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  Speaker 5: I know a lot of people were hopeful that this
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  Speaker 5: could be a liberal when but I kept telling you,
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  Speaker 5: just come back to the electoral math. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 5: what the polls say, and it doesn't matter what the
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  Speaker 5: liberals are promising. At the end of the day, the
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  Speaker 5: electoral math was staunchly in favor of Labor, and in
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  Speaker 5: my humble opinion, it wasn't a case of will Labor win?
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  Speaker 5: It was only a case of buy how much? And
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  Speaker 5: that is what we've seen take place ever since. But
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  Speaker 5: how do you like this, because we've been slamming, just
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  Speaker 5: like Dutton got slammed for being like, oh, copy paste
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  Speaker 5: Trump and he's bringing all these Trumpian policies and that
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  Speaker 5: his campaign did bend over backwards to try and be like,
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  Speaker 5: oh no, no, no, that's not us, that's not who we are, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Not what we're trying to do.
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  Speaker 5: But at the same time, Alban Easy was being slammed
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  Speaker 5: as having no relationship whatsoever with Trump. Just the other
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  Speaker 5: week he was saying, Oh, I don't have Trump's phone number.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even think he is a phone. No, we
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  Speaker 5: don't speak whatsoever. Well, very different tune today. You would
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  Speaker 5: have thought they've been mates for ages. Here he was
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  Speaker 5: talking about what a wonderful phone call he'd just had
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  Speaker 5: with the President of the United States.
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  Speaker 7: I had a very warm and positive conversation with President
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  Speaker 7: Trump just a short while ago. We talked about her.
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  Speaker 7: Orcus and Tarifs will continue to engage. We will engage
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  Speaker 7: with each other on a face to face basis at
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  Speaker 7: some time in the future.
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  Speaker 5: Turns out they're the ones who have been best friends
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  Speaker 5: all along.
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  Speaker 1: What a twit.
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  Speaker 4: Who would have thought? Who would have thought. You know
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  Speaker 4: the funniest thing about this whole thing is that Anthony
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  Speaker 4: Albaneze he couldn't actually get a call for Donald Trump
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  Speaker 4: several months of course we had the tariff slapped on us.
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  Speaker 4: But suddenly, wow, what by some miracle, he manages to
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  Speaker 4: actually get on the blower to Donald Trump. And while
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  Speaker 4: all is forgiven, they're all suddenly best friends for life
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  Speaker 4: and holding hands. And what does this prove? What does
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  Speaker 4: this prove? Well, you had the Labor Party saying, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we don't want cut and paste US policies. You had
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  Speaker 4: the Greens calling Peter Dutton the t MoU Trump. You
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  Speaker 4: had Jason Claire out there day in day out saying, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we've got to be very careful we don't import a
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  Speaker 4: US based health system here in Australia. And all this
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  Speaker 4: proves was that, well, actually, Donald Trump and Peter Dutton
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  Speaker 4: had nothing to do with each other. Peter Dutton was
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  Speaker 4: never a threat from the very beginning, never a threat.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it does open a broader conversation though
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  Speaker 4: about the Liberal Party's policies here because the Libs they
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  Speaker 4: went into the center, they went center left with their policies.
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  Speaker 4: So as a voter. You don't actually have any clear
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  Speaker 4: distinction between the Labor Party and the Liberal Party. I
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  Speaker 4: actually think that the Liberals should have been more like Trump.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not necessarily saying by way of policy, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking by way of decisiveness. If you're going to
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  Speaker 4: put out a policy, you stick with it. Instead of course,
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  Speaker 4: they backflipped on their key policies and Peter Dutton at
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  Speaker 4: the start of the campaign, you'll remember he was very firm.
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  Speaker 4: He said, I'm only going to stand in front of
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  Speaker 4: one flag, the Australian flag. Australia Day is to be
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  Speaker 4: celebrated on January twenty sixth. What is a woman? It's
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  Speaker 4: an adult female. But towards the last couple of weeks
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  Speaker 4: he hasn't been able to answer that they backpedaled on it.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're not going to provide a point of difference,
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to bring the country with you. Well, no,
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  Speaker 4: one day, you lose votes. And that is what Donald
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  Speaker 4: Trump did well.
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  Speaker 2: And this is what really annoyed me about the way
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  Speaker 2: the campaign was run for the Libs, because there was
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  Speaker 2: always the problem that Dutton was apparently not likable. You know,
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  Speaker 2: people didn't see Dutton as the kind of bloke they'd
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  Speaker 2: want to have a beer with in the same way
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  Speaker 2: they might Anthony Albanizi.
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  Speaker 1: But you were never going to overcome that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, unless you can change the way that Peter
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  Speaker 2: Dutton presents in front of a camera, and he's been
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  Speaker 2: in politics for a very long time, you're never going
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  Speaker 2: to change that. And everyone who knows him personally will
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  Speaker 2: say that he's got a wicked sense of humor and
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  Speaker 2: he's great company, and he's a great guy. But for
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  Speaker 2: whatever reason, that has never translated on screen. So forget
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  Speaker 2: about trying to soften him, which they tried to do
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  Speaker 2: and failed dismally at. It's never going to happen. They
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  Speaker 2: should have just let him lean into what he can
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  Speaker 2: do on screen, which is be a hard taskmaster and
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  Speaker 2: put it to Peter, put it to Anthony Alberizi. And
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  Speaker 2: I think the record will now show that Labor ran
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  Speaker 2: a dirty campaign against Peter Dutton, but a very effective one.
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  Speaker 2: They played the man rather than the ball but it worked,
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  Speaker 2: and I think people got to the ballot box and
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  Speaker 2: they didn't necessarily endorse Albanesi and say.
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  Speaker 1: Gee, I love this elbow bloke.
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  Speaker 2: He's the best Prime Minister Australia he's ever had. But
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  Speaker 2: they were dead certain that they didn't want Peter Dutton
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  Speaker 2: anywhere near the lodge. It was the result of a
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  Speaker 2: personal campaign that they ran against him. But at no
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  Speaker 2: point did the Coalition let Peter Dutton do the same
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  Speaker 2: thing to Albanzi.
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  Speaker 5: No, Well, they were all obsessed with like we've got.
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  Speaker 3: To soften his image. And I actually think that was.
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  Speaker 5: The downfall of Pete Dutton because the one thing in
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  Speaker 5: politics that is worth its weight in gold is authenticity.
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  Speaker 5: And if you're just yourself, whether people like it or lumpet,
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  Speaker 5: people know, okay, this guy stands for something and he's
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  Speaker 5: being himself. I'm looking at the genuine article, so I
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  Speaker 5: know what I do or don't want to vote for.
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  Speaker 5: And we know in politics perception is reality. And so
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  Speaker 5: what Labor was able to create this narrative around who
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  Speaker 5: Peter Dutton is and this hardliner and oh he's so
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  Speaker 5: Trump Voldemort, et cetera and so on, which was such
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: a low blow. The guy has alopecia for crying out loud,
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  Speaker 5: if you want to pick on his baldness, that is just.
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  Speaker 3: Way too low.
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  Speaker 5: But it worked, Like you say, and at the end
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  Speaker 5: of the day, after all the votes accounted, that's all
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  Speaker 5: that matters. So obviously the big question now is who
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  Speaker 5: will be the new Liberal leader. We know Dan Tian's
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: hat is in the ring. We know Susan's Lay's hat
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  Speaker 5: is in the ring. We know Angus Taylor's hat is.
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  Speaker 3: In the ring.
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  Speaker 5: These are the three names that are being bandied about.
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  Speaker 5: But we know one Liberal senator by the name of
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: Holly Hughes, a regular hero on Sky News, has said,
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  Speaker 5: whoever it is, it can't be Angus Taylor.
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  Speaker 8: I know who I won't be supporting. I think when
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  Speaker 8: you've had roles leading what was supposed to be the
• 15:46
  Speaker 8: economic narrative, when you were supposed to be putting.
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  Speaker 4: Together tax policies, when.
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: You were supposed to be delivering that sort of messaging
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  Speaker 8: for the coalition, when you are aky member of the
• 15:58
  Speaker 8: EERC we're quite frank clear as a shadow who submitted
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  Speaker 8: seven costed policies last October and.
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  Speaker 4: Then never heard anything back.
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  Speaker 8: There's certain people that I think need to do a
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  Speaker 8: lot of reflection themselves on what their role was the
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  Speaker 8: miss laws and perhaps putting your hand up for the
• 16:13
  Speaker 8: leadership is not exactly where your strength lies.
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  Speaker 5: We certainly didn't see a strong performance from Angus Taylor
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  Speaker 5: this campaign. I don't think anyone would argue with that,
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  Speaker 5: and certainly anyone who watched the debate, I think it
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  Speaker 5: was pretty much across the board.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone was like, ah, yeah, Charmers won that one.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: Sorry, even though we know what team we support, Chalmers
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: won that debate, and that seemed to be a reoccurring
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: theme whenever you saw Angus Taylor on our screen.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: I agree, And the problem is is that the Liberals
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: really did, I think, failed to sell an economic narrative,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: and August Taylor, being the shadow Treasurer, he was key
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: part of that. And the guy's a smart guy. You
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: cannot deny he is a Rhodes scholar. He knows what
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: he's talking about. But I don't think he particularly came
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: across as strong in that debate that you were talking about, Liz.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I don't think he came across strong. There are a
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: lot of fumbles, but you look at the other candidates
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: as well, and I've got to say I'm actually disappointed
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: that Andrew Hasty, the West Australian, dropped out of the
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: race late this afternoon. I thought he would have been
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: a brilliant opposition leader. He is strong. He would have
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: been a great representative for WA who often feels like
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: they are the loaner of the country. I would know
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: that I'm from Western Australia. But the problem is is
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: that the Liberals also hid him throughout the campaign because
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: of comments that he made back in twenty eighteen. I
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: think Susan Lee is now the best out of all
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: of them. Why because the Liberals have a women problem.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Now the voters think that the Liberal Party have a
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: women problem, So you put Susan Lee in there. She's
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: probably the most known out of them as being the deputy,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: so she does have that public profile. But you've got
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: to sell her as the package. You've got to sell
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: her in a way that they didn't sell Peter Dunnon.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: She's a grandmother, she's got kids of her own. You've
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: got to appeal to that market. I do think that
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Dan Teene is particularly strong on immigration, but they're going
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: to be in the wilderness for many years no matter
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: what Caleb that thing.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Which is why Hasty doesn't want to put his hand
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: up yet. In there's an argument, there's an argument to
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: be made that if you don't want to put your
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: hand up now and you want to come in and
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: collect all the prizes later, then you perhaps don't deserve to.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Collect all the prizes.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: But there's also an argument that it's not worth burning
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: good talent early because if things go really badly at
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the next election, you know, that could be the end
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: of it. But of course there is a man called
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: John Winston Howard who famously lost an election as Opposition
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: leader and then came back and became the second longest
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: serving Australian Prime minister in history. So it's not like
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: there isn't a roadback from this stuff. But Angus Taylor,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, one of the biggest mistakes that the Coalition
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: made in this campaign was to not allow the tax
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: cut that Labors said they were not a sed to
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the tax cut that Labour said they would pass on,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: you know, five dollars a week. It was seventeen billion dollars,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: which in the context of a trillion dollar debt that
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: we already have, wasn't a great deal of money. So
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: you have Angus Taylor come out and say we won't
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: pass on that tax cut.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Now there are two problems with that. It handed a
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: free kick to Labor.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I mean he fell for the three card trick, and
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: they then got to say for the rest of the
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: campaign that this is the Liberal Party, the coalition that
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: won't give you a tax cut, and that was born
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: out in the polling that people legitimately started to think
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that the Labor Party was more likely to be the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: party that would give them a tax cut. So they
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: handed that as a free kick, and it was never
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: going to get through the Senate anyway. I mean that
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: was legislated within two days, that tax cut. So if
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the Coalition would form government, they'd have to repeal it,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: which means they'd have to get it through the set
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: And do you think the Senate would ever allow a
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: tax cut.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: To be repealed.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: It was one of the dumbest decisions they made. So
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, he's not up to the job.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Susan Lay I don't think is particularly electable.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: You know, she just doesn't do it for me. I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: don't think she's been particularly.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Impressive as the deputy leader of Liberal Path.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: It could be a smart move for the Libs, though
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: it gives them that massive point of difference. She would
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: be the first female leader of the Liberal Party again
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: in terms of a revamp, optical and otherwise, it could
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: be really helpful for them. And I think Dan Tian
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: being such a part of the Old Guard now, if
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: it were Angus Taylor, if it were Dan Teen, they're
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: considered Dutton's right hand men already, So if what the
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Libs want is to do a revamp, I think Susan
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Lay is actually the.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Best though he's proven himself to be a good campaigner.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: And I was down in the western districts of Victoria
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: last week at the races in Warnabulle and everywhere were
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the signs for Alex Dyson because he got money out
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: of the Climate two hundred mod this time, and it
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: was absolutely everywhere we stay in Port Fairy and every
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: second bloody house in Port Fairy had an Alex Dyson
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: sign on it. And I spoke to Tea and at
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the races on Thursday and said are you worried? And
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: everyone I spoke to at the races during the week said, jeez,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I Reckon Teen's in a bit of travel.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: And he managed to hold him off. There was a massive.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Campaign that Alex Dyson ran down there and he managed
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: to fend it off.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: So he has some campaigning chops, which which clearly the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: coaletion struggled with.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: But he's been strong as well. But I think overall
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: we have to ask the question as well, is this
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: almost like the death of the Conservatives, because we're not
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: just seeing it here in Australia. We're seeing it the
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Canadian election that was held last week as well. The
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Conservatives were decimated. But you look at what's happening as
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: well over in the UK. The Conservatives are not performing
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: very well over there. But you know who is actually
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: outperforming the Conservatives Nigel for Raja's Reform Party. Now, over
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: the weekend the local council elections were held in the
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: UK and Reform did so much better than expected. In fact,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: it took out multiple counties and it really really was
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: a warning sign. I would say to the Labor Party
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: that hey, people have genuinely han that had enough. But
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: also it just goes to show that when you actually
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: are tough, when you talk tough, when you walk the
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: walk and talk the talk like Nigel Farage, and you're
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: not scared to back away, you actually can make a
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: key difference. Here was Nigel Farage sending a message to
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: other parties.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: The measure to Keir Starmer sarcastically, is please keep doing
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: what you're doing, and the message it can be made
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: not is well. Frankly, the Conservative Party's finished today. It's gone,
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: it's dying in the shahs. It has no future, It
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: stands for nothing.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: It serves no purpose, any chance of doing a deal
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: with them to unite the right.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: I don't want to do a deal with them. We're
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: going to win the next election on our own.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, Nigel Franch, thank you very much, thank you. And
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: you know what, he probably may have a good chance.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: The polls are right now in reforms favor. Why because
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: people over there have had enough of mass immigration. They're
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: sick to death of jobs being given to immigrants who've
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: come to the country as opposed to people who were
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: born and raised there. Hello, we're seeing issues here in
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: this country as well. But what I particularly like about
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Nigel Ferajus he's not mucking around. He said that he's
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: coming after DEI in councils. Have a look.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: We are going to be quite radical. Work from home.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: Forget it. If you're a DEI officer, I suggest you
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: look for another job.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So things are going to be different.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: We can't wagh magic ones. We don't pretend to, but
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: it'd be a very different approach to local government.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: So I think that this result was quite telling and
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: it goes to show, as I said, when you actually
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: have policies and you stick to them and you don't
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: back down, you don't go all scared, you don't go
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: all light like what we saw with the Liberal Party here.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: You can actually make a difference when you have a
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: point of difference. It was a really really successful win
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: over a former even former gb News host Darren Grimes.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: He even managed to get a seat in one of
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the councils, which was which was quite quite astonishing and
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: good on and he's done very well up there. But
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I really think that Reform is a party. We need
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: something like that here in Australia because we don't have
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: it the Conservatives. If you're going to move over to
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: the left like the labor left, then what's the point
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: You're not taking voters with you.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: And this is just remarkable in a matter of months.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: So it was just August last year UK went to
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: the polls.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: We know that Kirstarmer got up.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Reformer party just got fourteen percent of the vote share, modest,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: not too bad. Here we are in the following year
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: and in these local elections they romped in thirty percent
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: of the vote, winning six hundred and seventy seven council seats.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: This is huge.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: They crushed Labor, they crushed the Conservatives. Labor lost over
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty seats. The Conservatives lost over six
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: hundred seats in these local elections. So those guys are
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: absolutely really You will remember, just months after the national
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: election last year, over two million English people signed a
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: poll saying, please, we are crying out Parliament go to
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: an early general election because.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: We already have by a remorse.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: They had punished the Conservatives at election because the Conservatives
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: had not delivered on their Brexit promises, namely to clamp
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: down on the mass rampant immigration that was sweeping the UK.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Kiss Starmer then became Prime Minister, took the narrow win
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: and proceeded.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: To just keep doing.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: All these progressive policies that everyone in the UK had
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: said very loudly they didn't want any more. But worse
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: than that, Kiers Starma then enacted these draconian policies to
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: silence everyone and censor everyone who was still complaining, still noticing,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: still posting on their socials being like my country's being
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: overrun and I'm absolutely sick of it. And that's where
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: reform is now absolutely transcendent because they're just like, Okay,
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: the Conservatives aren't cutting.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: It for you.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: We are replacing them. We will be the Conservative party
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: that you long to see. It's going to be really
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: interesting when they go back to the polls for a
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: general election reform.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I have no doubt that Farage can do this.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: And he means business when he says, you guys are
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: dead in the water.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: We're going to win a majority government.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: By ourselves come the next general election.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: We're just getting started.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Well, they picked up another MP on the weekend as
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: well as the election, so they've now got their fifth
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: MP in the Parliament in the UK. And of course
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: they have a first pass the post system in the UK,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: which makes things a little more difficult in terms of
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: getting candidates over the line because you look like at
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: a party like the lib Dems for instance, and they've
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: got you know, seventy eighty odd seats or something, but
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: they only pull two or three percent of the national vote,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: but they have strong support in small parts of the country.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: So on a first past the post model you can
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: actually get a lot of candidates in. So the trouble
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: for the Reform Party is to be able to turn
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: national support into a genuine first past the post result
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: in multiple electorates. But to make it clear just.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: How extraordinary this was.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: In the council elections, there's one thy six hundred and
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: forty one seats across the UK. Six hundred and seventy
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: seven of them, forty one percent went to the Reform Party.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: The lib Dems won three hundred and seventy, the Tories
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: three hundred and nineteen, as Liz said before, that's down
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: six hundred and seventy seven on where they were, and
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Labor one ninety eight, which is down one hundred and
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: eighty nine seats. So the Tories and Labor, the two
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: major parties, combined one quarter of the seats the council
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: seats in the UK, and Reform, what was previously a
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: minor party that started up last year about four or
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: five weeks before for the general election in the UK,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: has taken forty one percent of them. I mean, that
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: is absolutely extraordinary. But the one thing I will say,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: the advantage that Reform, and Farage has in the UK
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: as opposed to the situation we have here is that
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Reform is essentially the only alternative Conservative party that exists
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: in the UK, whereas here you've got one Nation, and
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: you've got Rennick and you've got family First. But we
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: are so trumpet to patriots, we are so splintered that
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the effort to actually create a genuine alternative to the
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Liberal Party or the Coalition would require a lot of
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: people to knock their heads together and have to make
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: sacrifices on their various little bug bears and whatever to say,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: we've got to get together and create something here that
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: could actually be a genuine alternative, because the way it
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: is at the moment, you could never do what Reform.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: The thing is, the Conservatives are being decimated right now
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: across the world, other than Donald Trump, who has done
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: exceptionally well. But again it comes down to good life leadership.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: And people criticize Nigel Farage saying he's Donald Trump two
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: point right. Hey, the guy is highly successful because he
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: says it like it is and that's the difference. And
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I do agree, well, correct, It's all about authenticity. It's
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: not about backing away I do agree. Here in Australia
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: it is very different. But it also comes down to
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: the Liberal Party pulling up their socks. And I believe
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: that they can get there, but they're not going to
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: get there anytime soon. That is the problem. So who's
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: going to come up in the ranks and actually do it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine how the Tories must feel. They could
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: have had Nigel Farage.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: And it will be Averen story.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: They said no and he's gone and proven and wrong.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: And I can't get over this business. Today Donald Trump
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: saying he's going to put one hundred percent tariff on
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: films made overseas that are then screened in Hollywood, and
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: here he is talking about it.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: We're making very few movies now, Harleywood, He's being displayed.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: You haven't jarfenent grossly and garpending.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Governor that allows that to happen.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: So I'm not just blaming nations, but other nations, a
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: lot of them have stolin.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: I'm moving in them.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: So he says Hollywood is dying and we have to
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: do something to try and revive Hollywood. I mean, I
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: would suggest there are a multitude of reasons that Hollywood
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: is dying. I mean, it went woke and no one
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: wanted to watch the crap that was coming out of it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Just look at the snow white film that Disney just
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: put out. Of course, Disney's now miraculously turned around and said, oh,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: maybe we won't make woke films anymore. Funny about that,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: because reality eventually comes to bad. Also, has anyone noticed
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that there are no original ideas in the movie industry anymore?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, can we stop with all the remakes that
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: seems to be all they put out.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Now, remake after remake after remake.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: They've genuinely run out of ideas. So no wonder Hollywood
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: is in trouble. And I wish I could tell you
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the detail around this plan, but it doesn't actually exist.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, all we've been told is that Trump wants
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: to put one hundred percent tariff on films that come
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: from overseas. We don't know whether that means that it
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: would be one hundred percent tariff on the production cost
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: that would then have to be paid by the production
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: company so their film could be screened in the US,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: or whether it means that the cinemas would have to
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: pay one hundred percent tariff on the tickets that they sell,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: or the netflixes and all the other streaming services of
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the world, or the television stations of the world would
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: have to pay another one hundred percent on top of
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: what they've already paid in rights in order to screen
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the film, or whether it's the total box office taking.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: No one knows what this actually leans. I mean, this
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: was a brain fart from Donald Trump.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Seriously, he's an ounce They've got to make it work now.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: All the Hollywood exects, by the way, like, we got
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: no heads up about this.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: We found out about it when it came out of
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: the man's mouth. And given the scrambling the Trump admin
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: is now trying to do.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: To enact this, apparently it's happening.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: I don't think they knew either, because obviously a movie
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: isn't a product. It doesn't travel through ports, so how
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: is such a tariff going to work. It's also startled
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: a lot of other people in different other sectors because
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: they're like, well, hang on a minute, we thought these
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: tariffs would just be on products. Now you mean to
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: tell me we're talking movies. Who else is he going
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: to hit up?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: But this was Trump's post from his Truth social platform.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: He said the movie industry in America is dying a
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: very fast death.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I'd say that's a great thing.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: But anyway, other countries are offering all sorts of incentives
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: to draw our filmmakers and studios away from the United States.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Hollywood and many other areas within the USA are being devastated.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: This is a concerted effort by other nations and therefore
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: a national security threat. Oh, this is reaching hysteric levels,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: ladies and gentlemen. It is in addition to everything else,
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: messaging and propaganda.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: How about you get rid of the Pentagon Department that
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: works in collusion with Hollywood to pump this crap out.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: It's therefore, I am authorizing the Department of Commerce and
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: the United States Trade Representative to immediately begin the process
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: of instituting a one hundred percent tariff on any and
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: all movies coming into our country that are produced in
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: foreign lands. We want movies made in America again in
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: his usual caps, Now, he's not wrong. According to data
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: from prod pro, spending on film production TV production in
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: the United States has gone down by twenty eight percent
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: just between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty four. That
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: is a lot of money we're talking about, and he
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: wants to keep it in the country. But you can't
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: deny that if you haven't made things. The production companies
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: are obviously like, well, we can produce this cheaper elsewhere anyway,
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: not to mention all the exotic locations that they film in.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Of course they're going to do it, but rather than.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Make it more affordable for them to do so in
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: the US, he's just saying, no, I'm going to make
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: it far too expensive for you to do it anyway.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Try use VHS. That's why you think so well, I.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Highly doubt a billionaire like Donald Trump still on the
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: old VHS. Yeah, but look, you never know. Look but
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: one can dream. But I completely this was a thought bubble.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: There is no doubt this is a thought bubble. This
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: is not only going to cripple the overseas market, We're
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: going to be impacted here in Australia as well by this.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Don't forget there's been major films. If you look back,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: there's been major films film here. It's going to have
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: an impact on our market. It's going to cripple the
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: independent movie scene. I was reading as well, over seventy
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: five percent of box office Hollywood films actually reportedly come
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: from outside of the US, so it probably will encourage
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Hollywood to seek to move out of the United States.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: But you know, Hollywood only has itself to blame here, because,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: as you said, Caleb, Hollywood went woke years ago snow white.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: For example, there was that ridiculous one Amelia Perez where
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: it was a Mexican drug law and that was transgender.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, where are they getting this from. They've got
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: quotas for when you win awards. They've got quotas. You
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: have to have certain demographics to win awards. So you know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: maybe if I actually stopped with this white nonsense, they
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: could revive the movie scene. It's very clear Donald Trump
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: has no idea what he's doing here with this one.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: I've got to say, I think this was a complete
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: thought bubble. I think there'll be a lot of pushback
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: You may have a point though. Crocodile Dundee was pretty
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: good Australian propaganda, wasn't it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: It was bring back Crocodile Dundee before we leave you
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: for a break tonight. Chinese, one of their humanoid robot factories,
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: has made headlines around the world for all the wrong reasons.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: It's called China's Unitree Robotics. They were supposed to be
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: showcasing this humanoid robot called H one, and well it
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: went very badly in fact, with someone kind of This
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: guy was lucky to escape with his life. There's a
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: humanoid absolutely going tropo. These guys are running for their lives.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: They almost got bashed in the head, taken out by
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: this robot, which Unitree is trying to sell.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: You can go online and buy one of these now.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: I think sales are probably going to plummet, but it
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: certainly doesn't dissuage the fears that so many people have
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: about these humanoid robots. Elon Musk has been like, oh,
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: we're going to produce five to ten thousand of them
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: in the next few years. Those people, those techie people,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: are very excited about this expanding industry, and the rest
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: of us are watching on with horror at things like
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: this terrifying.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: It's incredible to think where we could be going. I
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: just got to say, that thing looks like me. When
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I went through my bit slips at Warnable Lab, I
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: realized that back two inns All Week book, He's cleaned
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: me up I meaning two minute noodles for the rest
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: of the year, it would see. After the break we'll
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: get into the papers, big time Liberal donuts.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Saying they may will never donate to the party again.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: That is how bad things have become. Don't go away,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: all right, let's get into tomorrow's papers. We'll start with
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: the Australian, where I have to say, right up the top,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the best story I've seen all week, perhaps all year,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a bit of avoidance from the election. Oscar Piastre, who
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: has won again in the US. I mean he is
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: just it and a bit boy from Brighton in Melbourne.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: He will win the championship this year, mark my words.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: But another story underneath it, completely hopeless, furious top Liberal
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: donors to close wallets. Top Liberal party donors are pulling
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: their financial support for the party, blaming the combination of
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: a disorganized election campaign and Peter Dathen's labor light policy platform,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: saying without early wholesale changes, they won't be giving in
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: three years time. And it goes on to name some
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: of these people, soul Pats, Robert Milner and plenty of others.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Stockbroger Angus Aiken saying you know, we just can not
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: get over exactly how bad this was.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: To quote soul Pats.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Who's given more than a million dollars in the past
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: to the party said it's been a disaster. I will
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: be seriously thinking about whether I ever donate again.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know where they go to from now. It
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: was a very poor campaign. There were too many mixed messages.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: They didn't convince voters that labor spending billions on renewables
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: is a bad idea. That Libs have to change their
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: way of thinking and get more of the swing voters.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you've got people who punt up a
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: lot of money, say I don't know that I'll ever
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: give them money again, you own big traup.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, this is a real worry for the Liberal Party.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: They would be absolutely crying to read this article because
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: if you haven't got the money, you haven't got the backing,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: then what's the point of putting out a campaign. But look,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: they've done it to themselves. They will have to rebuild.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: They're going to have to really convince donors that they
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: are not in the wilderness, that they are going to improve,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: that they're going to fix the mess but it's going
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: to take a lot of time. But they need that money.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: It would be such a good time, like we were
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: talking about earlier, if there was a legitimate alternative like
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: worm have managed you out of the blue, like they
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: haven't even been around for that long at all, and
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: look what they have achieved. Because people are desperate for
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: a Conservative party and they're like, well the Conservatives aren't
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: doing it for you, We're going to do it for you.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: If one of those were to.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Spring up in Australia pretty soon, they could count on
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: these backers arguably just say hey, if those are the
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: policies that you want to see pushed, that's our bread
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: and butter. We're going to do it legitimately, unapologetically, and
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: we're going to create some wins in this country for
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: the Conservative vote. You wonder if you wouldn't Just like
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: the Conservatives in the UK, the Tories have lost a
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: lot of big donors to form. These guys could do
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: the same if and when they actually exist, said here
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: in Australia.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Well, it'd be good to see them given a scare,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: wouldn't it. One day scare they had on the weekend
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: is enough to shock them into action. But of course,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: now that albow is back, all the old people are
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: starting to circle again, and one of them is Marsha
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Langton says. On the front of the aus Tomorrow sees
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: the moment, Langton tells PM, and don't forget that Penny
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Wong sort of suggested in the dying days of the
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: campaign that there could be a legislated voice, But Langton says,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: here it says Anthony Albernez, he must use he's once
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: in a generation election win to be courageous in Indigenous
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: policy and go beyond warm acknowledgments of traditional owners to
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: address extreme disadvantage. Voice and architect Marshall Langton says. The
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: wipeout of the coalition on Saturday is being seen by
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: some supporters of the Ularu statement from the heart as
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: a rejection, sorry of opposition attacks on welcome to Country ceremonies.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: It's shunning of the Aboriginal flag and for an eleventh
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: hour attempt to convince voters that Labor had a secret
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: plan to revive.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: An Indigenous voice.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: To anyone who actually believes that, to to borrow a
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: line from the Prime Minister, who I believe he borrowed
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: from some influencer podcast, is you are de Lulu with no, Slulu,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I mean to think that this election was actually a
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: rejection of Datton saying that Welcome to Country is overdone
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: and that he would only stand in front of the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Australian fact. I'm sorry, no one walked into a ballot
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: box Saturday and said I'm voting on the basis of
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: welcome in the country. They voted on the basis of
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: cost of living and the fact that they just didn't
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: like Peter Datton to say, well, this is a rejection
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: of wokeness and well, you know this is people saying, actually,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: like work does something.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But you know what, though, the Liberals actually should
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: have gone harder on the voice. I think throughout the
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: campaign they should have they should have narrated it out.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: As for Marsha, you know, they just pipe in their
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: heads up again now that Labor has been re elected.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: And what struck me the other night now Beneze his
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: victory speech when he really enthusiastically acknowledged Elder's past president
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: emerging and that that line he was really husiastics So
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: you know, the gang is back together. The gang are
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: back together.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Kate.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, God help us always like to say
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: to that, but I don't. I just don't think if
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: they think that's what people were voting on.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, we'll look at the Herald's sun now. Now, this
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: is one of the most delicious moments of the election campaign.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: If there is any Bant in fight to survive, hallelujah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: There eight Victorian seats remain in doubt as the race
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: titans in the Liberals favor in three key electorates, offering
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: the party a silver lining amid the devastating defeat. Greensley
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: that Adam Banty is at risk of losing his seat
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: of Melbourne to Labor, while t LMP Monk Ryan on
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Monday had to walk back claims she'd won Kugyong. God,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: how embarrassing, admitting that the count was too close to call.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Postal votes in at Kuyong have favored the Liberal candidate there,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Amelia Hamer, who on Sunday night said we can win this.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: So you've got doctor Monique Ryan. Firstly, she was out
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: there celebrating she'd won. I saw she even put on
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: her ex account Thank you Cooyong. She was all excited. Oh,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: you might have to backpedal. How embarrassing. And as for
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Adam Bant, Trella see you later. Adam off you go goodbye.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: That's your only silver lining from this whole election campaign.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: When you see now delicious not about to talk about
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Sidney sweeneyws on the front. Well, I mean you would
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: think that would be It would be much much better
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: than Adam band, much better vision than Adam Banter or
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: menik Rah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: And that's for sure.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: But I mean, for goodness sake, you know they say
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: don't count your chickens before then, and given the advice
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: of eggs these days, they're very expensive chickens to be counting.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't it be magnificent?
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: And we saw, of course that the Greens have gone backwards,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: they lost two seats.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: In Queens It I mean, how.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Delicious would it be see Adam indeed, to see Adam
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Bant go with them. I suspect Bant is going to
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: hold on and most of the Teals, it should be noted,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: even if two of them say go in Victoria, most
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: of them will hold on in the rest of the country.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: So it's not like the days are over for the Teals.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: But it is a window into their bravado to say
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: on election.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: And then the couch starts coming in. So sorry, I
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: got that wrong.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: Very humiliating to the front page of the Townsville Bulletin.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: Now odd story bin police to check waste come again.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: Residents and ratepayers in Townsville will soon be treated to
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: a strange site on their streets, that of Townsville City
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: Council employees popping open their bins to take a look inside.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: The move comes as a part of Townsville City Council's
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: new Bin health check program, running until September across seven suburbs.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: These guys are going to be armed with clipboards. The
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: council's rubbish crops are doing visual checks of your recycling
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: bins on collection day to make sure there's no mix ups.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: The mayor says this blitz is all about.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Boosting recycling and cutting land fell So she says they
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: won't be rifling through rummish.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Just taking a look.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: So to Townsville residence, all that matters is what's on top, okay,
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: So just whatever you do, make sure you sprinkle the
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: good stuff on top, get the tick from these clipboard
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: council employees and you're in the clear.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Anyway, How would you like to be a bin coop.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, they wouldn't be the best job. Can you
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: imagine the smell out of everyone's bins?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of one of my favorite stories ever
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: published in the history of journalism, which was by a
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: little paper in a small town in the US where
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: the local government had decided that what was in the
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: bin once it was on the footpath was public property,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: so anyone could come.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Along and take it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: So these small time journos of this little paper went
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: rifled through the bins of all the local politicians and
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: then published what they found in their bins, and very
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: quickly that policy was turned back. I wonder whether that
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: might happen in this case. After the break, the conclave
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: begins this week to decide who the new Pope will be.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: What if it was Donald Trump will show you that
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: after this, Well, the new Pope will be decided this week.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: But it would seems the White House has designs on
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump talk.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Oh look, I think this is absolutely brilliant. Yes, it's
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: a big moment for the Vatican, of course, as they
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: look to elect a new pope, and we saw this
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: fascinating image. It's an AI generated image that Donald Trump
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: has put out today of well, none other than himself
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: is he's nominated and selected himself to be the new Pope. Gosh,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: if you don't you know he looks. This is the
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: problem with AI. You never know what's real or fake.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: But you've got to have a look at this AI video.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: And well, I thought it was a classic personally, isn't
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: it just brilliant? And look, of course the left to
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: the left, they're all upset, they say it's offensive. I
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: actually think it was quite funny. Personally, I think we
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: shouldn't take things so seriously. He put it out as
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a joke. He thought it was funny,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: and you know what, we've got to take it with
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: a bit of humor. But AI is scary because it
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: didn't look real in my opinion.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Well one was he who actually goes to Catholic church?
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, I do. All thought it's hilarious. Trump's not even
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: a Catholic.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: He doesn't even attend church church of any description.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: He's absolutely trolling.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: And then the White House's official ex otherwise known as
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: Twitter account, re shared the video, so they're clearly just
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: having a laugh.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Can everyone please come now?
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I have to say, though surely being a poping a
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: priest involves celibacy. I don't think Donald Trump would ever
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: get the job.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, for all his faults, and everyone's always rushed
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: to Trump's defense. And I've used the line myself to
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: be like it was an elected to be pope. He
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: was now.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Here, he has been light well.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Actually well he's already had.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I had the second coming in the White House, so
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: who knows what he can do over at Vatican City.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: But before we go, Tony Barry, who works with our
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: mate Cos Samaras over at Redbridge. He's one of the
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: co directors of at Redbridge, was on the ABC's election
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: coverage on Saturday night. I know you weren't watching that,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: you were watching us, but you would think, given he
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: was on the coverage, you would have wonderful things to
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: say about it. But his assessment was thus, the ABC
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: was the only telecast of six hours of no data
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: analysis and insight, just six endless what I reckon journalism
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: ours unwatchable drivel. He said they should burn the ABC
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: to the ground quote unquote, and then sort the earth
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: underneath and on behalf of all of us. Tony Barry,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: we say thank you here, Thank you so much for
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: joining us.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Tonight, Britta Panecky Show is Up.