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The Ron Verb Show - 4pm Hour - #w, 07/21/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: All righty, 406 here on a Tuesday afternoon, 77 degrees.
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  Speaker 2: It's comfortable out there. July 21st already, gang. Ron Verb
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  Speaker 2: from the Kingdom of Mahoning, and you're on the air. Ron,
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  Speaker 2: I like your library guy yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I've been going there for, you know, taking school classes
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  Speaker 3: and stuff, but it was very, very good, Ron.
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  Speaker 4: Great show. Appreciate it. Thank you, Dick, from Dayton, checking in.
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  Speaker 4: Appreciate it. All right, buddy. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, if I owned a big, beautiful building, would
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  Speaker 5: I have the right to tear it down?
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  Speaker 4: If you owned a big building, well, it depends.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you go in some of these communities, and
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  Speaker 2: if you buy some of the historic houses that are there,
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  Speaker 2: there's all kinds of regulations on what you can and
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  Speaker 2: can't do. I mean, it's really something like there's these
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  Speaker 2: historic sections that you can go through. There's a historic
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  Speaker 2: section I went through in Salem. It's just spectacular, these
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  Speaker 2: old houses. And, of course, you've got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: that in the city of Canfield, too. That's spectacular. It
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  Speaker 2: is a lot of our history. What's on your mind, old-timer?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I also wanted to mention your news just said
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  Speaker 5: that Trump administration is planning on tearing down a pilgrimage
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  Speaker 5: site to build a border wall. I would think that
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  Speaker 5: government is more likely to tear down the Sistine Chapel
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  Speaker 5: than a private organization like the Vatican, wouldn't you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, my problem with the Trump administration right now isn't
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  Speaker 2: any of this other nonsense. My problem is what you're
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  Speaker 2: seeing take place in Iran right now, which I think
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  Speaker 2: is just– it's been a nightmare. I think you and
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  Speaker 2: I are in agreement. It's been a nightmare since day one.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a mistake since day one. And it's not
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  Speaker 2: getting better. It's getting worse. And I'm deeply concerned again,
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  Speaker 2: as I would say to you, about what is going
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  Speaker 2: to happen here to energy prices. The price of a
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  Speaker 2: barrel of oil, gasoline prices, a lot of what you've
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  Speaker 2: been saying, a lot of people were boo-hooing you, but
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  Speaker 2: the strategic oil reserve is getting depleted. Our strategic oil
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  Speaker 2: reserve is being tapped into, and it is down to
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  Speaker 2: levels not seen, I think, since 85, if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 2: They've done the same thing in China. Well, we're running
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  Speaker 2: out of all of this spare oil, if you will. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what do you do when you can't tap into that anymore?
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  Speaker 4: And you have this.
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  Speaker 2: Situation that isn't any closer to being settled than it
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  Speaker 2: was months ago in Iran. And I'm sincere to say
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  Speaker 2: I'm concerned about the price of a barrel of oil,
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  Speaker 2: gasoline cost, and quite frankly, a recession or worse.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you guys are lucky. You're only paying $ 4 a
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  Speaker 5: gallon for gas.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: I filled up yesterday. I paid $ 4. 99 for gas. For 87?
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  Speaker 3: $ 4. 99 for gas.
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  Speaker 5: It's costing us.
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  Speaker 4: Almost $ 100 to fill.
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  Speaker 5: Up our gas tank down here. Yeah, but are you
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  Speaker 5: putting in premium or are you putting in the low 87?
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  Speaker 2: 87. 87.
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  Speaker 5: You're able to put 87 in that Ferrari you're driving? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that eight-cylinder Ferrari. Oh, by the way, I've got bad
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  Speaker 5: news and good news for the options guy. He told
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  Speaker 5: me to buy SpaceX calls, remember?
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to get into all that. That's over
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  Speaker 4: most people's heads.
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  Speaker 5: I just wanted to say that he changed his story.
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  Speaker 5: He said he didn't buy the options. He bought SpaceX stock.
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  Speaker 5: What did he say he was doing? Oh, he's hedging
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  Speaker 5: his bets. Now, I don't know whether to believe him.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's so embarrassed that SpaceX is down so
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  Speaker 5: low that he changed his story to make it look
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  Speaker 5: like he's not losing as much money.
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  Speaker 4: You're talking over people's heads with this.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to get into that stuff because the vast
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  Speaker 2: majority of our listeners don't do that sophisticated stuff. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, Dow gains nearly 400 points. S & P
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  Speaker 2: 500 snaps three-day losing run as chip stocks rise.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now..
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  Speaker 5: Now here's the good news for options guy. Elon Musk
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  Speaker 5: just donated $ 5 million to Vivek Ramaswamy's Super PAC to
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  Speaker 5: make sure data centers in Ohio continue to be built
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  Speaker 5: and to make sure the spy cameras keep going up
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  Speaker 5: to spy on you guys. And Ramaswamy is supporting high
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  Speaker 5: school kids in Chillicothe building war drones to kill more people.
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  Speaker 5: And Ramaswami just reported that his PAC raised $ 12. 24 million
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  Speaker 5: for the second quarter of the year, with virtually all
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  Speaker 5: of it from multi-billionaires Elon Musk and Ratmir Timoshev and
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  Speaker 5: Bill Ackman and Ross Stevens. They each contributed $ 1 million each.
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  Speaker 5: And Stevens also gave $ 5 million to Ramaswami's PAC when
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  Speaker 5: it was founded last year.
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  Speaker 2: Did you give a million? I mean, you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: all these rich guys. Did you throw in any?
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't own a house in Ohio. But if
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  Speaker 5: I did, yeah, if I wanted a data center not
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  Speaker 5: to be built next to my house, I probably would
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  Speaker 5: have gave a million to move it someplace else. Well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Ramaswamy will face Dr. Amy Acton, former head
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  Speaker 5: of the Ohio Department of Health, who shut down Ohio
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  Speaker 5: during COVID. Now, where's all the political ads for Amy Acton?
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  Speaker 5: Looks like the fix is in. Looks like Ramaswamy is
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  Speaker 5: going to be.
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  Speaker 2: Your next governor. I can tell you don't live here
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  Speaker 2: because there's ads that are out there. There's not a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of them just yet for both of these candidates.
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  Speaker 2: So there's ads that are running.
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  Speaker 5: Not like Ramaswamy's ads.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's way too soon.
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  Speaker 5: He's got 12.4%. million this quarter alone to run ads.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I certainly hope he spends some here.
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  Speaker 5: Now, did you talk about on July 18th that humans
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  Speaker 5: first organized a nationwide protest against status centers? And Ron,
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  Speaker 5: the resistance crosses all political boundaries. And a major reason
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  Speaker 5: is because it raises the cost of living.
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  Speaker 4: I got to tell you something, Frank.
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  Speaker 2: I think some of these people are making some really
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  Speaker 2: good points about these data centers. Because if you take
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  Speaker 2: a look, all I can tell you is what's happening
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  Speaker 2: up here. I don't know about where you are. But
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  Speaker 2: they say we're the sweet spot because we have the
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  Speaker 2: right weather. Even though I'm told you have some in Florida,
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  Speaker 2: but Florida's not a good spot for them because the
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  Speaker 2: weather's too hot and the cooling's a big problem and
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  Speaker 2: the aquifer, the water isn't.
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  Speaker 4: It is an issue. So you got water issues there.
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  Speaker 4: You got cooling issues there.
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  Speaker 2: But Ohio is a sweet spot because we got the
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  Speaker 2: better weather for these data centers. But but people are
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  Speaker 2: raising legitimate concerns over the water usage, even if it's
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  Speaker 2: a closed system, because even in a closed system, you
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  Speaker 2: have to you have to maintain the system or wash
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  Speaker 2: the system out and what chemicals are used. being used
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  Speaker 2: in that water, and we don't know enough about that.
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  Speaker 4: But the demand that they're putting on me as far.
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  Speaker 2: As electricity and increasing what it costs for you to
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  Speaker 2: power your house is ridiculous. So maybe some of these
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  Speaker 2: people are right to say we need to put a
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  Speaker 2: moratorium on this until we know more about the water usage,
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  Speaker 2: what chemicals are used, and what state the water will
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  Speaker 2: be in, in addition to the power consumption.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe that's not a bad idea.
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  Speaker 5: We're lucky because the main issue with us and data
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  Speaker 5: centers is not enough water. But right now, data centers
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  Speaker 5: are not using up a tremendous amount of water compared to, say,
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  Speaker 5: like utility companies. But as soon as they spread all
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  Speaker 5: over the country, they'll start competing with, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: just like you said, Your electric bills are going up.
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  Speaker 4: They've already doubled.
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  Speaker 5: They've already doubled. And the data centers, they're not just
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  Speaker 5: causing large increases in utility bills and draining communities of
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  Speaker 5: precious water resources. Studies are showing that they're draining communities
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  Speaker 5: or they're causing mental distress from the constant noise they emit.
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  Speaker 5: For now, they bring in tax revenue. and also create
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  Speaker 5: a small number of jobs. But the government ignores the
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  Speaker 5: will of the people because, Ron, data centers are expected
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  Speaker 5: to give our military bosses in Israel a competitive edge
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  Speaker 5: in the arms race against the rest of the world,
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  Speaker 5: and because it increases the power of the surveillance state
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  Speaker 5: to spy on patriotic Americans. Ron, I've read a report
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  Speaker 5: that says the U.S. government is encouraging the expansion of
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  Speaker 5: AI data centers more than any other country by far.
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  Speaker 5: We currently have 4,000 of them. Now, you know, you
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  Speaker 5: were also saying about the stock market. Well, yesterday, the market...
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  Speaker 5: was relatively unchanged because, as you say, Wall Street dislikes uncertainty. Well,
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  Speaker 5: Wall Street is slightly optimistic that Trump is going to
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  Speaker 5: sign another memorandum of understanding with Iran. But at the
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  Speaker 5: same time, interest rate analysts believe that Kevin Warsh, the
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  Speaker 5: Fed chairman, may raise interest rates again as early as
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  Speaker 5: next month. So one positive piece of news offsets the negative,
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  Speaker 5: and the market was relatively unchanged, very little trading, because
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  Speaker 5: they're adopting a wait-and-see attitude.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they should. Listen, I go back to what I said.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get trapped in any of this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: This has been a disaster since the very beginning. And
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  Speaker 2: Trump owns this. He made the decision, whether he was
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  Speaker 2: convinced by Netanyahu or whatever the case might be. He
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  Speaker 2: made the decision for whatever reason. And it's created a mess.
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  Speaker 2: And it's gone on longer than I thought he ever
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  Speaker 2: dreamed it would go on. And it's right at this
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  Speaker 2: point in time, there's no end in sight. And what
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  Speaker 2: I'm reading is there's genuine concerns, once again, as our
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  Speaker 2: reserves of oil are being depleted and where we're heading
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  Speaker 2: here if this continues to go on as far as
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  Speaker 2: a price of oil and gasoline and the inflation that
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  Speaker 2: could come from that and the effects that could come
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  Speaker 2: from that, from fertilizer to all the other chemicals that
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  Speaker 2: are affected by it. I mean, it could lead to
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  Speaker 2: a serious economic downturn in this country.
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  Speaker 4: Serious one.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's a good point. And last week, did you know, Ron,
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  Speaker 5: that oil prices, I think it was West Texas Intermediate,
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  Speaker 5: was down to $ 71 a barrel. And the price of
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  Speaker 5: oil before the Iran war was $ 67 a barrel. So
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  Speaker 5: Wall Street was betting that this war was going to
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  Speaker 5: end soon. But guess what? Today, Oil and natural gas
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  Speaker 5: prices way up again. And, I mean, the volatility in
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  Speaker 5: the stock market since this war began is nothing like
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  Speaker 5: I've seen in a long time. That shows, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I want to tell your audience that when you tell
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  Speaker 5: them that the stock market doesn't like uncertainty, that's a
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  Speaker 5: great example of all this volatility that we're seeing in
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  Speaker 5: the stock market.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: You know, people are withdrawing 401ks in record numbers to
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  Speaker 5: make ends meet. Now, what's going to happen when they retire?
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  Speaker 5: Social Security will be bankrupt, or you'll just get like
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  Speaker 5: two-thirds of the Social Security check that they promised you.
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  Speaker 5: Your 401k will be depleted. People are even withdrawing money
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  Speaker 5: from their Roth IRAs, their traditional, their rollovers, to make
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  Speaker 5: ends meet as well. They've got to put a stop
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  Speaker 5: to this unending money printing. They've got to end this war,
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  Speaker 5: and they've got to go back to financial responsibility. But, Ron,
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  Speaker 5: I don't care who wins the midterms, November 3rd. I
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  Speaker 5: just don't see the Republican Congress doing it. I don't
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  Speaker 5: see the Democrat. You know, Mike Johnson wants $ 360 billion
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  Speaker 5: more to fight communism, he said. Now, Ron, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know about you, but I don't think anybody in South
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  Speaker 5: Florida is worried about the Cuban government landing in Fort
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  Speaker 5: Lauderdale and invading the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Do you?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: All right, buddy. Thank you. Appreciate it. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 3: That was painful, Ron. You should have saved us sooner. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I just drove by the library, and one of your
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  Speaker 3: previous callers hit the nail on the head when he
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  Speaker 3: said what I told you a week ago, something smells.
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  Speaker 3: There's not a structural issue with that building. It was
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  Speaker 3: fine for decades until some genius decided to put a
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  Speaker 3: wall because there was a water issue, which created the
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  Speaker 3: problem they have. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
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  Speaker 3: look at the pictures and realize that there's been purposeful
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  Speaker 3: neglect done to that building. It's not falling down. It's
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  Speaker 3: not falling apart. I just drove by it, Ron, and
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  Speaker 3: even looked at it closer, and the entire building has
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  Speaker 3: not been maintained. I'm not sure how you describe some
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  Speaker 3: of the... architectural designs on that building, but you should
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  Speaker 3: ride by it one day before you go in the office.
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  Speaker 3: It's been neglected. You buy a house and do nothing
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  Speaker 3: for 30 years, you know what you're going to have.
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  Speaker 3: I know what you're going to have. This is a
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  Speaker 3: common-sense issue. And these people, they got a money problem. See,
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  Speaker 3: when you have so much public money..
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  Speaker 4: Stand by, Ted. Stand by, Ted. Hang on.
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  Speaker 2: Back with Ted the Conservative. And more Good Afternoon 422
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  Speaker 2: on a Tuesday in Ron Verbum. Well, listen to this.
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  Speaker 4: Back with Ted the Conservative.
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  Speaker 2: So basically, from your observations, routine maintenance was ignored at Poland.
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  Speaker 3: Ignored. You know, and I could say in the 22
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  Speaker 3: years I lived there, I can honestly say I've never
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  Speaker 3: seen anyone painting that building. But let me get to this, too,
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  Speaker 3: because I think what you have is twofold. You've got
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  Speaker 3: a woman that came here from Arizona who just does
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  Speaker 3: not like the architectural design in the air. She'd rather
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  Speaker 3: things look like they do in Arizona, I guess, more contemporary.
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  Speaker 3: This is a choice that's being made for personal preference,
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  Speaker 3: number one. Number two, they have an unlimited source of
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  Speaker 3: revenue that they apparently can't spend. I listened this morning
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  Speaker 3: to a program, and you had this arrogant SOB on
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  Speaker 3: who was connected to Sherrod Brown. It sounded like he
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  Speaker 3: was running a political campaign for not representing the library.
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  Speaker 3: We have more people employed there than are needed. What's
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  Speaker 3: the purpose of the library, number one? They're beyond the
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  Speaker 3: purpose of the library, from charging stations to... They've got
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  Speaker 3: these programs where you could... If you need a tool,
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  Speaker 3: you can rent a tool for a day. You could
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  Speaker 3: take out a tool for a day. You could take
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  Speaker 3: a laptop out for a day. You can use a
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  Speaker 3: Wi-Fi hotspot for a day. That's not the job of
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  Speaker 3: the library. I'm telling you, Ron, there's something going on
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  Speaker 3: And if those Save Our Library people were smart, and
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  Speaker 3: I think they are, they need to look past the
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  Speaker 3: emotion side of it. Because too often when you have
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  Speaker 3: situations like this, everybody reacts with emotion.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think any of these people are reacting with emotion.
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  Speaker 3: I do think there's a lot of emotion involved.
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  Speaker 4: I totally disagree with that.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to get past that, and you've got to
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  Speaker 3: get to, okay, what do we need to do to
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  Speaker 3: stop things in its tracks? They've got to have an
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  Speaker 3: attorney that's involved with them. They need someone to work
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  Speaker 3: for them pro bono, file an injunction to put a
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  Speaker 3: stop immediately to any library action until there's complete public
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  Speaker 3: disclosure from maintenance records to finance records. Heck, go into
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  Speaker 3: employee records. The guy says one of the reasons he
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  Speaker 3: claims they're spending so much on wages today is because
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  Speaker 3: the price of insurance went up. Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: Does this guy think people are dumb? He sounds like
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  Speaker 3: he works for Sherrod Brown. That's the ignorance I heard
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  Speaker 3: this morning. And people should be pissed off, to be.
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  Speaker 4: Honest with you.
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  Speaker 3: It's not as simple as your previous caller said. He
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  Speaker 3: called and said, don't they own the building? You can
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  Speaker 3: do whatever you want when you own the building. It's
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  Speaker 3: not their building. It's the library. It's the Mahoney County Library.
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  Speaker 3: And everyone that's on that board that voted against moving
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  Speaker 3: this library... I want to commend them. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: names of any of the board members. But at least
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  Speaker 3: you have some people that listen to the constituents. But
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  Speaker 3: you have a majority who apparently have become good soldiers
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  Speaker 3: for that director and won't stand up to her on anything,
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  Speaker 3: it sounds like. It almost sounds like she's sitting on
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  Speaker 3: her throne dictating orders and all the little soldiers are
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  Speaker 3: doing what she wants. The library does not need to
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  Speaker 3: be moved. They need to fix what they screwed up.
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  Speaker 3: That wall, in regards to water, address the water situation,
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  Speaker 3: because as we all burned from the calls you've had,
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  Speaker 3: the water to that area has increased twofold, if not threefold.
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  Speaker 3: So fix the water issue. They created that wall. They
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  Speaker 3: probably paid the same person to fix that wall that's
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  Speaker 3: designing that library.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Why would you go to Cleveland to get services and
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  Speaker 3: not seek the professional local people that we have in
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  Speaker 3: the area? There's a lot that smells, Ron. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: telling you, I've been around long enough to know that
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  Speaker 3: usually if there's smoke, there's fire. And there's smoke coming
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  Speaker 3: out of those libraries. What I just saw is sad.
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  Speaker 3: And it pissed me off to see the neglect under
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  Speaker 3: that building. Because I've worked... riding by it for almost
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  Speaker 3: 25 years. You never really pay attention. You notice it's beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: As you're driving through the community, whether you start at
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  Speaker 3: the Walgreens and you end up at the high school,
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  Speaker 3: there's an architectural design in that community and that township
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  Speaker 3: that Every building must meet some of the historical standards.
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  Speaker 3: She doesn't like that. So what is she going to do?
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  Speaker 4: She's going to go build a.
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  Speaker 3: Contemporary building in the woods somewhere that no one's going
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  Speaker 3: to see, no one's going to go to. Children aren't
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  Speaker 3: going to go to it. Middle school kids, elementary school
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  Speaker 3: kids aren't going to walk to the high school.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, let me address some of what you had to
• 20:26
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  Speaker 5: The deal we reached with Iran. The devil's in the details.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Bringing the price of gasoline down.
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  Speaker 4: Maintain the Fed funds rate.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Tying Pfizer to the Save Act.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: NATO has been a paper tiger for the very latest.
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  Speaker 1: Severe weather impacting parts of Ohio this afternoon with tornado
• 21:31
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• 21:37
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  Speaker 6: Ohio State University assistant professor Luke Perez avoiding jail time
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  Speaker 6: Perez sentenced to two years of probation and ordered to
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  Speaker 2: Let me just give you some just general reaction to
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff you had to say, Theodore.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I got a couple more thoughts if you want to
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: hear those before you react.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Then I'll shut up. All right. How many school districts
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: do we have facing financial deficit? How many teachers unions
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: are struggling to get raises to keep up with inflation?
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Look at our district struggling. Billion dollar deficit can cancel
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: a couple million bucks. Irregardless of your thoughts on the
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: levies in that, building levies, capital buildings, just look at
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the levies to educate students and pay teachers struggling. They're
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: at deficits everywhere, and they're sitting off $ 50 million. Number one.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Number two, has anyone looked at the employment numbers, the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: staff numbers of the library before this woman came here,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: and how many positions she's added since she got here?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Because the amount of money they're spending is incomprehensible, and
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: there's no accountability. So you know how you get accountability?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: You hold their feet to the fire. I would get
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: an injunction to stop them from doing anything and get
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: full disclosure. Let's see how many people they've added. Let's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: see how they're spending their money. Let's see maintenance records.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Let's see all that stuff. I mean, if you're not
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: upset about this, and like I said, it doesn't affect
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: me one way or the other. I'm not going to
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: that library. But I'll tell you what, the average guy
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: should be upset, and this should raise a flag. I'll
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: shut up and listen now because I can keep going.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm sitting here taking it all in. Listen,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: it comes down to here's the bottom line for me.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: First of all, as I said, Bob Mastriana was here
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: yesterday and he was here last week. He is an architect.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: He's certainly a very qualified man. But let me just
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: give you just some things in general, my impressions. I
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: think he's a terrific human being. I think he's a good,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: decent man. Okay, Ted? I think he's a good, decent man.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I think he loves that community. And I think he's
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: done a lot for that community. He knows his stuff.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: That's my impression. And anybody that tries to muddy up
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a guy like that, I lose... all respect for immediately.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Anybody that wants to say negative things or thinks the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: answer is to muddy up him or his reputation is
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: a despicable human being to me because he is a good,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: decent man and he deserves the respect that he has
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: earned over these years.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: That's usually what cowards do. When cowards can't win an issue,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: then they resort to that kind of behavior.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just giving you my impressions of him, okay?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, and that's my impression of him. I think
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: he genuinely cares about that facility, and he cares about
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: his community. He was the architect of a beautiful facility,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: but there was so much more to just the architectural
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: aspect of that building.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: It's the location as well.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, as I talked to him yesterday, location can
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: be important. I mean, the thing that makes Canfield a
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: special place, the city of Canfield, is the green on
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the square. You follow me? It's a gathering point. As
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: a matter of fact, bear with me for a minute here.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I'm going to kind of stray off course. But here's
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: what makes Canfield. These community drawing places, as I was
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: talking to Bob, in the city of Medina, they have
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the Medina Square, which with the historic buildings all around
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the square. You follow me? Which are maintained with that
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: historic look. They have to stay that way. There's a
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: large hotel chain that's building a hotel up by the
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: historic square in Medina, and it has to be built
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: to match the architecture requirements.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Of the square. You follow me? It just can't be built.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: It has to match the architecture of it all because
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: it is something that makes the city of Medina very
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: special in growing up there. It makes it extremely special,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: that square and the park and the gazebo. It's a
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: gathering spot. It's just like in Canfield with the green.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: It's a gathering spot. Austintown and Boardman don't have that.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: We have parks, but we don't have that It's, it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: missing in a community. I think Boardman ultimately has, I
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: think Boardman has the chance to get that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: If the mall does fail, if the mall fails.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I really believe that the property that the mall sitting
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: on are a portion of that property should become, uh,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the Boardman square area. It should be, if, if the
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: mall fails, that should be the central gathering point for Boardman.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And it should be like a, like, um, the Green
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: and Canfield or the Square and Medina, it can be
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: that for Boardman. Boardman has an opportunity, if that mall fails,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: and I prefer not to see it fail, to turn
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: that into something spectacular for their community long-term, to add
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: something that is needed that isn't there. And I think
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: that that would be a step in the right direction
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: to enhance the community. But he wanted that library there
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: because of the walking distance from the elementary school. and
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: to create a central focal point for the community because
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: it didn't have a square like that, like Medina or
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the green like in Canfield. That's why that location was important,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: or the original location of the library. And I think
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: he accomplished that by putting that facility right where it's located.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: So there's more to it than just a library. It
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: has to do with the location and the history of
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the location and bringing a community together. I think he
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: achieved that by doing that. Then, of course, he built
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: something truly spectacular to be proud of in that town,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: just like the Walgreens that he was the architect of,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: which is like no other Walgreens to fit the, what
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: do you want to say, the town, if you will.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: The aesthetics of the community.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Exactly. And he did that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: This is what makes communities special and different from other communities.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: So there's more to it than just this building and
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the library. It should be a community building. It should
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: be a place where people can go like it is
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: with the library. So there's much more to this that
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I don't believe. that the people that are on this
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: board fully understand. I mean, I don't... I think that...
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Forget this time limit. I think that if you sit
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: down and have a discussion... these people that are making
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the decisions. And I'm deeply disappointed. Obviously, I had Bob
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: on now two times. And as I said during the program,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: any of these people with the library, feel free to
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: call the lady that's the head of the library or
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: any of these henchmen that she's hired.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: They'll never call. They feel you're beneath them.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Well, whatever. That's their opinion. I'm telling you.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: But they can feel free to call and they can
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: actually speak, make their case and listen to what Bob
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: has to say, and carry on a conversation. Because if
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you think you're right, then make your case, show Bob
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: where he's wrong, or listen to what Bob has to say.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And maybe you'll find out that you might be wrong.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: But we know this much. Bob was there when this
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: building was built, when it was designed. And he knows
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: more about it than a woman that they brought here
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: from Arizona. He knows more about it than any of
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: these people that have been hired in these positions to work.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: what insulate her or whatever their criteria. I don't even
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: know why you have a problem with the library and
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: you're getting top heavy with all of these people, with
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: all these people and their salaries, you're becoming too administrative heavy.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And you, you become more and more out of touch
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: when you have that kind of stuff. As I said,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: instead of the people, why don't you hire people that
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: actually have abilities in maintenance to maintain these buildings and
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: get them on the payroll? The, some craftsmen instead of
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people that push paper and really don't
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: have much talent at all other than trying to push
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: paper and and tell the community that they're wrong so
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: i would like to see a discussion between bob and
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: the woman that runs the library i'll have it right
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: on the program we got hours to do it where
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: that they can make the case to each other and
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: will she do it Will the people that say the
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: negative things about Bob, will they do it?
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Because, you know, you want to have a discussion?
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: You know why, Ron?
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: I don't want to speculate on any of it. No,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I'm not speculating. I don't speculate.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying here's my invitation to these people that
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: you really need to sit down and have a discussion
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: with each other because the reality is– You could be right.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: You could be wrong. But you've got to listen to
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the guy why it's there, who built it, and how
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: we can fix this problem and keep this great facility,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: a public library in this community, as opposed to saying
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people who are on a board who
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: have no background in.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: This at all.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Need to hear the case. They are not contractors. They
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: are not architects. They are not engineers. They're not builders.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: And actually hear from the guy that orchestrated all of
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: this and the associates that he brought in with their
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: specialties on how this was built, how this can be fixed,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: why this isn't a flaw in construction, and then talk
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: about the maintenance that hasn't been done. All of these
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: pencil pushers and paper pushers are insignificant. What you need
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: is craftsmen who can go down and maintain these buildings.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: That's where your money should be spent on behalf of
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the taxpayer. I take it one step further. I say
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to you, I will not vote for a library levy.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I don't support the fact that you're overtaxed on it now.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I don't support the fact that the arrogance that's coming.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's very arrogant on how these people are
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: being treated as a taxpayer. This matters to me as
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: a taxpayer in Mahoning County. I pay these taxes. I
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: pay them from a state level. How this man is
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: being treated, how these people are being treated. is the
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: most arrogance, just such arrogance, I cannot and will not
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: support it. I will not vote for a library levy.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I will not support it. I believe that you need
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: a new administration that is certainly more..
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Someone who serves the people, not themselves.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: This is not a dictatorship. And quite frankly, therein lies
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the problem. This is not how government is supposed to work.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: You have arrogance coming from all these people. This isn't
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: a game. And I think too many of these people
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: think this is a game. We're going to get our way.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: We're going to show them. We're going to muddy this
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: architect up. This isn't a game. This isn't about that,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: and that's the wrong attitude. I have zero respect for it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: In my humble opinion, it's only my opinion, I believe
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I would get rid of all of these people. I
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: believe if it was up to me, I'd get rid
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: of her. I'd send her back in, and I would
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: get rid of all the cronies or the people that
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: she hired. I would hire people that are more responsive
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to the public. I would hire people that would maintain
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: these buildings.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: And... I would go so far as to looking at
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: the people who appointed some of these members on this
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: board also. But I'll end with this, Ron. I don't
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: want to take up all your time. When public officials
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: have the truth on their side, they will stand on
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: the highest hill in the town and repeat those truths.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: When a public official doesn't have the truth on his side,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: they stay silent. Right.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, how taxpayers are being treated. I sit here
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: and I often talk about this, how taxpayers are being treated.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: And I would say this.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Do you think George McKelvey would run it this way?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, as I say a million times on this program,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: George McKelvey was the mayor of Youngstown. He sat in
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: his studio. He took calls from the people of the
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: community when they had a complaint or something. He didn't
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: tell them they were dumb or stupid or what. He
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: wrote it down on a legal pad. He came over
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: on his phone. He called whatever department it was and
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: told them to take care of it because he said,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: these are my customers. They weren't voters to him. He
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: wasn't an arrogant guy to say, I'm the mayor, I
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: can do whatever I want. He referred to all of
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: those people as customers. He had a customer mentality. Hey,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: go fix this pothole. Hey, go take care of this.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: And that type of mentality is needed when it comes
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: time to run the library, as opposed to hiring a
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: bunch of people to insulate you from the criticism or
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: to cover your ass. I haven't heard from this woman.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I make a public invite for her to come on
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: the program. I'll bring Bob back on the program. And
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: make your case to the public. It is our money.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: It is our community. You're new to this community. You're
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: blessed to be here and be getting the paycheck you're getting.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Again, her silence speaks volumes.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Well, we shall see.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: You mentioned the mayor. Sadly, Ron, and I don't know,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: you might agree with this, but we... We are running
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: out of people of character like Mayor McKelvey.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: And a lot of people want to see how they
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: could benefit themselves.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: How can this job get me to the next bigger paycheck? Right.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Exactly right. Did you have any input at all?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Once again, Mahoning County is going to take out all
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: these bonds to redo this, you know, the Eastern Gateway project.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Did you, all of you that will be responsible for
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: those bonds and the debt of this community, have any
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: say-so in it whatsoever?
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Any say so.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Nope. So therefore, the cloud will always be there. And
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: that's that's that's the kind of commissioners have to own that.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: They have no public hearings. You know, when you spend
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: that kind of money, whether it's the county building downtown
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: or the library here. There needs to be public meetings
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: with public feedback. There needs to be conversation. You get
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: three minutes to speak, and we're not going to really
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: respond to you. We're just going to stare at the
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: wall behind you.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: That's ridiculous.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: There needs to be engagement.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: And that's where the county commissioners, they may be making
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: the right decision, but you and I will never know
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: that because there was never an opportunity. There was never
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: transparency in the decision-making. I'll leave with that, buddy.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: And I put it out.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I was looking at, thank you, I was looking at
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: these people that put in applications to replace Santos, the
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: trustee in the town in which I live in, Austintown.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: And there were 13 people, and I was reading their
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: reasons for why they thought they should have this position.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: And you know what was missing in every single one
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: of them? None of them mentioned a taxpayer. When you're
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: reading their reason for why they think they should get
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: this position. You know, as I go through some of these.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: You have a woman that's an insurance agent. That's a
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: why should she be trustee? Well, she's got a successful
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: insurance agency. Manage your business.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: And talks about, oh, I was on the fire levy committee.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I was a member of the Youngstown Warren Regional Chamber.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I could go through all of these. Carl Clay,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Ditzler's put his name in. some other guy with a
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Salvation Army, and I look at all these people, and
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I'm reading it, and not a one of them talks
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: about property taxes or real estate taxes and the burden
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: on the taxpayer and cutting spending and operating more efficiently.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Not a single damn one.
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  Speaker 4: Of the 13.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: One of the most pressing problems in a community is
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: the burden of real estate taxes, and none of them
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: mention it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: We'll be right back. Your one stop for advertising? Call 844-844-EYEHEART.
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: I'm Dr. Cheryl Figliano from Centers for Hearing Care. If
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: you or a loved one has difficulty hearing, you need
• 39:27
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• 39:29
  Speaker 7: When we lose our hearing, we lose touch with family
• 39:31
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• 39:34
  Speaker 7: audiology have a culture of caring and white lip treatment.
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: We've been solving our community's hearing issues for over 34 years.
• 39:41
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• 39:45
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• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, when I look at this kind of stuff, listen,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I just think governments, the library's a sound example. There
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: are others that I give. Once again, in Mahoning County,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: you never had a say-so in this, let's purchase Eastern
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Gateway building and tear it down and build right down there.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: A horrible location and difficult for people to get to.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: But you never had a say-so in it. But you'll
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: get the debt and the bonds, and you can vote
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: these guys out of office, and that debt and bonds
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: will still be there that you're going to have to
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: deal with because of a decision they made that they
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: think is a wise decision. I mean, and we can
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: get into some of the personnel hirings that they've done
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: down there, which are certainly politically oriented. We can get
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: into all of that and say, is this position needed?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, it just seems to me that government is
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: out of touch with what the situation is here. I'm
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: genuinely concerned with where things are going from a standpoint
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: of your real estate taxes and young people being able
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: to afford to buy a home and old people being
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: able to stay in one and everybody in between. We
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: don't need a bunch of people on the payroll that
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: aren't productive. We should be talking about what we're cutting,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: how we're becoming more efficient. How we're making do with
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: what we have in our number one priority should be
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: the taxpayer. And that is not the mentality that's going
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: on now. Too many of these entities are these entities
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: that have millions of dollars in surplus money of yours
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: that belongs back to you. I don't know if they're
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: just so out of touch because of their salary and
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: benefits that they can't even relate to what people are
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: going through in this community or simply just don't care.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: But it's a deep, deep problem going on here. And
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I really got to play that DeSantis thing again. I
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: played it one day, what, a couple weeks ago. When
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: you listen to DeSantis talk about how they approach in Florida,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: once again, they're spending less money this year than they
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: did the year before. Not adjusted for inflation, actual dollars.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: So they're spending less money this year than they did
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the year before. Less money that year than they did
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: the year before that. For four years in a row,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: no adjustment for inflation. They're spending less dollars than they
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: did the year before. Because they're operating efficiently. They're saying,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: is this position needed? It's zero-based budgeting. We don't start
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: with what you had. We start with zero. Is this
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: position needed? Is this person doing something to benefit the taxpayer?
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Is this project benefiting the taxpayers? But you don't see
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: that here with the arrogance from the library and this
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: polling library. I don't give a damn what the board says.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, these people need to sit down. and have
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: a public discussion that we will be more than happy
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: to have with the head of the library if she
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: thinks she has a case and Bob.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: But we will see if that happens.