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Serious Diseases with Seriously Funny Names, Part Two: Rickets, Brain Fever, and Maple Syrup · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much
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  Speaker 1: for tuning in. And let's give a shout out to
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  Speaker 1: our super producer, mister Max Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out big ups to Henry Kissinger. Yes, yes, you
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  Speaker 2: on the other side, buddy, I.
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  Speaker 1: Will reserve a public statement for the you know what,
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  Speaker 1: for the press conference.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, old Brown, I've been bowling in a previous life.
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  Speaker 1: I had some international affairs stuff going on, So I
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  Speaker 1: tell you with some authority, Henry Kissinger is a war criminal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, just just just come in hot.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right, and it's definitely something we're probably
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  Speaker 2: gonna talk about more in depth on the other show. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: we keep it a little breezier here on Ridiculous History.
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  Speaker 1: We're in person, we're hanging out. The energy is lovely.
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  Speaker 1: We hope this finds you happy and healthy, because this
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  Speaker 1: is part two of a very strange episode about diseases. Folks,
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  Speaker 1: check out part one and if you want to know
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  Speaker 1: the origin of this, have you ever read Old Medical
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  Speaker 1: Tree Disease or Old Like What Happens in like Transatlantic
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  Speaker 1: movies and stuff. Someone has a weird disease, right, it's made.
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  Speaker 2: Oh exactly, And I mean maybe got to go a
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  Speaker 2: little bit further back, and I'm thinking maybe like Golden
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  Speaker 2: age Hollywood type stuff where some kind of naval situation perhaps,
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  Speaker 2: or some pirates on the high seas, someone's not eating
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  Speaker 2: enough vitamin C. Perhaps the little vitamin D deficiency. Well
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  Speaker 2: we'll figure it out. But what is rickets. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: the D. This is not the curvy which we kind
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  Speaker 2: of lump those in together. But when you're not getting
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  Speaker 2: enough D, yeah, ladies, you get rickets.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, rickets. As you pointed out, Max, it sounds like
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  Speaker 1: it might be somehow related to cricket. That is not
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  Speaker 1: that is not the actual thing. Rickets is a frankly
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  Speaker 1: terrifying disease. It's the softening and weakening of bones.
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  Speaker 2: Right, which makes sense, like in terms of the automotopia
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  Speaker 2: of it all. Like I just think of rickets like creaky,
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  Speaker 2: creaking bones, rickety cricket well from any right exactly. But
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  Speaker 2: like when I hear the word rickets, I think of
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  Speaker 2: brittleness for some reason. And we're gonna get to the
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  Speaker 2: etymology of it. But sometimes I just like to come
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  Speaker 2: in with, like what how does it make me feel?
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  Speaker 2: You know, right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is it is true, here's the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Or I know someone who got scurvy the way they
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  Speaker 1: were not a sailor. They're just very unhealthy, just didn't
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  Speaker 1: eat enough lemons, so they.
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  Speaker 2: Just didn't eat vitamin sea somehow. By the way, many
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  Speaker 2: of these diseases we're talking about have kind of been eradicated, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like you don't really hear about people getting rickets.
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  Speaker 1: They've been skirtgated, okay, fair and mitigated, like.
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  Speaker 3: You know, with like the balanced diet, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: vitamin C is in so many things. Right, It's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I eat like, you know, those little like
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  Speaker 3: orange wedges gummies like every day because it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: now I have like five thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they are. It's actually shocking they're good for you.
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  Speaker 2: Like those emergency gummies, you know, airborne or whatever. You're
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  Speaker 2: supposed to eat three of them. They feel like they're
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  Speaker 2: just chalk full of sugar, and they probably are somehow,
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  Speaker 2: They're they're good for you.
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  Speaker 1: I snarfed. I don't keep those gummy multi vitamins in
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  Speaker 1: the house because I started treating them like a snack
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  Speaker 1: a movie. Yeah, and I just like you said. I
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  Speaker 1: I remember I was looking around. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I can have as many as I want because I'm
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  Speaker 1: just getting more.
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  Speaker 2: Twelve. God help you if you have really tasty melatonin
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  Speaker 2: gummies zombie walking through your life.
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  Speaker 1: So let's look at this. Oh hey, and we are
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  Speaker 1: joined with our returning guest, Alex. Circa big, big shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Alex. She can't hear us, So, Noel, now
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  Speaker 1: is the time you got any hot takes, you got
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  Speaker 1: anything you need to set the record straight on before
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  Speaker 1: she puts her headphones on.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see.
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  Speaker 1: Oh she can't hear it. Okay, okay, let's never mind. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there will not be a public statement at this time Alex.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, about about Henry Kissinger, about Henry Kissinger or Alex sirka. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know what's funny though, Sorry to get off the track,
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  Speaker 2: but for a second, whenever a big, you know, largely
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  Speaker 2: looming figure like that passes away and you hear the
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  Speaker 2: especially one that's been you know, alive for one hundred years,
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  Speaker 2: and you hear the first tricklings of obituaries, you're like,
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  Speaker 2: they've had that in a file for years.
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  Speaker 1: The New York Times has probably the best obituary I've
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  Speaker 1: read so far, and I've read several Kissinger's books. No
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  Speaker 1: one's saying that he's unintelligent, but clearly they had that
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  Speaker 1: locked and loaded, and then they went back through and updated.
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  Speaker 2: Updated, exactly right. Yeah, And I think there have been
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  Speaker 2: instances in the past where some of those have been
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  Speaker 2: published early by mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that has happened. That has happened. As Mark Twain said,
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  Speaker 1: reports of deaths canna be greatly exaggerated. And we know
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  Speaker 1: that Kissinger did not pass away from Ricketts.
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  Speaker 2: Look at you like you're a segue ninja over here,
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  Speaker 2: slicing and dice and chopping it up. So I have,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, and I believe Super producer Max Williams
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  Speaker 2: have a vitamin D deficiency. Yeah. We were talking about
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  Speaker 2: it off Mike earlier and I literally was looking through
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  Speaker 2: my You know, nowadays they do everything digitally with doctors,
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  Speaker 2: and I saw a message from my doctor that I
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  Speaker 2: didn't notice. Uh, it just says you your vitamin D
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  Speaker 2: levels are severely low. I'm writing you a prescript for
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  Speaker 2: a supplement, so I take that like once a week.
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  Speaker 2: But I think largely in max and I conferred on
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  Speaker 2: this and think it's probably true. It's because we don't
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  Speaker 2: go outside, and well this look, I'll say it.
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  Speaker 1: I recognize the sun is somewhat important, but I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it insists upon itself, really does.
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  Speaker 2: I find it.
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  Speaker 1: Presumptuously pushes it pushes it just it's all anyway, rickets,
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  Speaker 1: You're right, I'm Vitamin D is important and rickets is
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  Speaker 1: a consequence of this deficiency. Now, we mentioned that this
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  Speaker 1: is most commonly seen in children, right, so if you
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  Speaker 1: are if you are not a child, you can still
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  Speaker 1: have a vitamin D deficiency, but because your skeletal structure
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  Speaker 1: is already more developed, you're not going to be as endangered.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Vitamin D Why does that matter to your bones? It
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  Speaker 1: helps your body absorb calcium and phosphorus from food. So
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have enough vitamin D, you're also going
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  Speaker 1: to have a really difficult time maintaining the amounts of
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  Speaker 1: phosphorus and calcium. And then you get rickets. Common symptoms
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  Speaker 1: delayed growth, delayed motor skills, pain and the spine, pelvis, legs,
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  Speaker 1: and muscle weakness. It's way less fun than the name
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  Speaker 1: makes it.
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  Speaker 2: Sound. You think rickets sounds fun.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it sounds like a board game.
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  Speaker 2: I was about to jacks or something, you know, or
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  Speaker 2: like tiddleywinks. What the hell is tidle winks? Tidy winks?
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  Speaker 2: Was this way like POGs? I figured, no, but it's
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  Speaker 2: it's Jack's or Pog's adjacent. You throw things you got
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  Speaker 2: like a slammer. Yeah, remembers, did you ever have a slammer?
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  Speaker 2: Did you? Were you a pog guy? I?
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  Speaker 1: I was a pog enthusiast, but I didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of friends, so I didn't play it.
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  Speaker 2: I just collected nobody played it. I mean, okay, maybe
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  Speaker 2: that's not true. Maybe some guess I got the Wikipedia
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  Speaker 2: definition right here. Tillywinks is a game played on a
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  Speaker 2: flat felt matt with sets of small discs called winks,
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  Speaker 2: a pot the target, and a collection of squitchers, which
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  Speaker 2: are also disks. That's all I'm gonna give. Okay, Squidgers
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  Speaker 2: should be a disease, by the way, twitgers should be
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  Speaker 2: a disease.
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  Speaker 1: Tiddley winks very like a weird thing to for a
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  Speaker 1: disease to be named, Like, give it to me straight, doc.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Mister Bolden, you have you have the winks,
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  Speaker 1: the tity winks.
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  Speaker 2: Did we talk last episode about how some of these
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  Speaker 2: diseases maybe this was off my Some of these diseases
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  Speaker 2: are like they're given this kind of grandiose treatment by
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  Speaker 2: placing the in front of them. Some things don't get that.
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  Speaker 2: It's sort of like bands from the early aughts that
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  Speaker 2: was there was the period of indie music. But I
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  Speaker 2: think you can do that. You don't say the rickets though,
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  Speaker 2: you just say you have rickets, but you would say
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  Speaker 2: sometimes the mumps, or you could say just mumps. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: it's interchangeable. I don't know if there's any rules in
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  Speaker 2: this scenario. I'm picturing you shaming a child for having rickets.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, look, you're nine, you need to get it together.
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  Speaker 2: You have rickets, Nathan, I don't know why. Apologies to
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  Speaker 2: all the Nathans. It does sound like a child's game,
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  Speaker 2: though you're right.
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  Speaker 1: It also shout out to one of the weirdest, most
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  Speaker 1: lazy games of childhood, Yesteryear's pickup Sticks. Do you guys
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  Speaker 1: remember hearing.
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  Speaker 2: Somewhat Paul adjacent as well. Yeah, it involves sort of
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  Speaker 2: like smashing things and then picking them up, or like
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  Speaker 2: you have a pile perhaps, and then you throw another
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  Speaker 2: thing at them and they scatter and then you just
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a free for all. It's like
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  Speaker 2: a feeding frenzy. So just jump in here.
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  Speaker 3: How you make pickup sticks fun is you play law
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  Speaker 3: and darts at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm back in. Lawn darts are illegal. Lawn darts
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  Speaker 1: are illegal. Yeah, what happened to this country?
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  Speaker 2: Rickets? Yeah? Sorry, we're going all over the place. But
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  Speaker 2: that's that's how we do. It's kind of what the
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  Speaker 2: Folks.
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  Speaker 1: We're so glad you're here. We hope you don't have
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  Speaker 1: any of these medical conditions because ricketts is interrelated with
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  Speaker 1: some other.
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  Speaker 2: Conditions, much like adema. Right, it can be as a
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  Speaker 2: symptom of a larger issue that can be much more severe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, cystic fibrosis, kidney problems, celiac disease, inflammatory.
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  Speaker 2: Bowel disease, which is that IBS.
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  Speaker 1: I'm you know, at what point does is the irritable
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  Speaker 1: bowel syndrome turn into At what point does the doctor say, look,
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  Speaker 1: I've been nice calling this a syndrome. Yeah, you have
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  Speaker 1: a disease, you have a serious your bud is on fire.
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  Speaker 1: But at what point does it go for being irritable
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  Speaker 1: to being inflammatory? Oh that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just wondering. Is there like a spectrum for
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  Speaker 2: these things, you know the doctors? Is it like the
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  Speaker 2: thing where you point to the smiley face or frowny
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  Speaker 2: face depending on how bad your butt hurts?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So I b S and ib D are per
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  Speaker 1: Chrome Colitis Foundation dot org. They're two distinct gastrointestinal disorders,
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  Speaker 1: though in our defense, the differences between the two can
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  Speaker 1: be confusing for many people. Says so right there, it says,
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  Speaker 1: so right there, We're absolved. We're absolved, go in piece,
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  Speaker 1: we're shriven.
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  Speaker 2: So this is though as simple as again, maybe I
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  Speaker 2: was overstating the case or being overly optimistic when I
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  Speaker 2: stay eradicated. But typically because of what we mentioned, the gummies,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the touch and grass of it all. You know,
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of people are going to be suffering
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  Speaker 2: from what you would call rickets, right, hopefully not.
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  Speaker 1: And despite the tremendous breakthroughs that have been made in
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  Speaker 1: medicine over the past decades and centuries, things like rickets
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  Speaker 1: can still stick around because of that continued you know,
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  Speaker 1: the reliance on vitamin D and the way people's bodies grow.
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  Speaker 1: But no matter what happens to rickets, hey, we'll always
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  Speaker 1: have the etymology.
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  Speaker 2: We will we will. We should talk about that, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because again it was more of a a
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  Speaker 2: how does it hit you? How? What's the ear feel
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  Speaker 2: of it all? You know what I mean? I like
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  Speaker 2: that and it does of course, as some of the
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  Speaker 2: other ones that we talked about have sort of a
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  Speaker 2: I believe, sort of an Old English root.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, according to a brief history of nutritional rickets, bang, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the etymologies, I'm that happens all the time, especially in English.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a great word we learned from this. It
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  Speaker 1: most likely originates from a German mistake, Ricking.
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  Speaker 2: For confusing Old English with German. Oh come on, there's
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  Speaker 2: I think German is so aggressive. Yeah, and like the
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  Speaker 2: Old English is so little tea and sweet tea and
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  Speaker 2: all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, rick that sounds like the name of a horror
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  Speaker 1: It translates to twisting.
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  Speaker 2: Oh remember that that icp insane clown possely adjacent group Twisted?
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  Speaker 1: I do How do you know about twisted?
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  Speaker 2: I'm a juggler, dude, Okay, hatch it man for I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know. No, I see, I've already failed by
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  Speaker 2: using I'm not using the nomenclature Hatchett. Isn't that as
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  Speaker 2: the little guy, the running guy with the axe, he's
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  Speaker 2: the hatchet man?
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  Speaker 1: Oh huh yeah, yeah, well he's deaf.
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  Speaker 2: I think so. I had not ICP Cassette. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: had the Great Malenko Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Before they came out as like a Christian band.
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  Speaker 2: What Yeah, I remember the Magnet thing is that the
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  Speaker 2: one is there Christian undertones and their discussion of Magnets.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's around the same time period.
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  Speaker 2: Magnets is a scientific display of God's love.
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  Speaker 1: I love the I also love the weird stream of consciousness,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's shaggy too dopey. He self defeats.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who are we to judge art.
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  Speaker 2: But they had a thing. But man, but he self defeats.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, uh, magnets, how do they work? And I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to talk to a scientist. You be lying
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  Speaker 2: and getting me pissed. So he recognizes there is a
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  Speaker 2: problem and he refuses a solution. Yeah, he doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to know how magnets work. I respect that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why I had this treatise locked and loaded.
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  Speaker 2: I apologize, Well, clearly we've both been thinking a lot
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  Speaker 2: about the Insane and their adjacent Detroit music scene.
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  Speaker 1: Every time I'm slow on a text, man, I apologize,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm just deep in Malenco.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I was. I put it on in the are
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  Speaker 2: with my kid recently, just for fun, and they like
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  Speaker 2: knew the lyrics. I guess you know, they're they're just
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  Speaker 2: so aware of so much culture that I just have
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  Speaker 2: no idea that they're aware of. And for whatever reason
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  Speaker 2: they did a little toe dipping in an insane clown
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  Speaker 2: posse and new the lyrics to a couple of the tunes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, also, I would argue as a hip hop head
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  Speaker 1: that to your point about rhyme ski it's not it's
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  Speaker 1: barely hip hop. It's not difficult to predict what they're
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  Speaker 1: going to say next.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there is really this little piggy. It's something
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  Speaker 2: something something Piggy Piggy. It's pretty funny. Man.
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  Speaker 1: So with that, with that, oh uh, we've got to
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  Speaker 1: go back to rickets, do we? So with with that,
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  Speaker 1: with that knowledge of jugglers, we do want to be
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  Speaker 1: fair Jugglo culture, juggal culture, thank you. We do want
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  Speaker 1: to be fair and say that we are not. We
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  Speaker 1: don't know their position on rickets at this time. They
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  Speaker 1: may be pro ricket. I hope they're not.
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  Speaker 2: But rickets is a good candidate for like a rhyme scheme.
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  Speaker 2: It's you can build a nice flow around rickets. Uh huh, crickets, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: stick it, wicket stick it, damn sure. You know flip it,
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  Speaker 2: kick it, twist it, bop it. Yeah, there we go.
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  Speaker 1: That's we just yep, that's how they made that toy.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Ricketts looks like a sex toy.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Rickets must have been around for a
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  Speaker 1: really long time, right, but it didn't get described until
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  Speaker 1: the seventeenth century by these these two English physicians.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew the English had something to do with it.
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  Speaker 2: There they are. Yeah, Daniel Whistler not nothing to speak
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  Speaker 2: of his mother, right, Whistler's mother, it has to be
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  Speaker 2: the same. And Francis Glisten.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, famous duo, the Holland Oats.
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  Speaker 2: Of their day. Don't don't mention hollandos I'm still bummed
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  Speaker 2: but that they hate each other, there's the restraining or
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  Speaker 2: so mad at each other. Dude, what happened.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of water under the bridge, I guess troubled
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  Speaker 1: troubled water. Then they need a bridge over that troubled war.
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  Speaker 1: But every relationship is a country all its own, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so hopefully those guys can patch it up. Look, these
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  Speaker 1: dudes who describe Ricketts are recognizing something that, again, has
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  Speaker 1: been around for a long long time. And if you
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  Speaker 1: look further back at the early Roman and Greek medical writing.
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  Speaker 1: You can see that they're describing something that is like,
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  Speaker 1: we're ninety nine percent.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Sure they're talking about rickets. They just didn't have the name,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: that's right, they didn't. How could they have. We needed
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the Germans to help us with that one.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: We needed the Germans. And clearly the band Twisted is
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: a reference twizzt it z t w i z t
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: i D And they had the longless positive their hair
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: and the little little twisties twisties. That's what they kind
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of like because they're twisted. They're twisted, I get it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: And they basically wore the same ICP makeup, you know,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: and weird that's right, yeah, oh yeah, all right. They
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: got from hot topic before that was even a thing.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: So this is strange the need for vitamin D because
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: it's one of it's also one of the leading theories
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to explain how evolution affected the spectrum of skin color
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: in human beings depending on where they were living, what
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: part of the world they were in, and therefore how
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: much or how little exposure they that to sunlight.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: It's like if your house is facing the wrong way,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: your house plants are always going to be wilty and
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: sad looking like mine, which they buried that in the
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: in the home inspection. Nobody tells you, bro, you don't
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: get direct sunlight, your house plants are going to die
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: every time.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: You're going to have to live and cactus life, you know.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: No, I did find out there's a nice window that
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: does offer some slight, but I've realized how important it
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: is and that that's actually we've talked to recently on
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: stuff that I want you to know about photosynthesis and
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: how important that is for you know, humans to live,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and how what an amazing feat of nature that is
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: literally the byproduct of this incredible process is what allows
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: human beings to like survive or at least one of
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the things production of oxygen. But it's a great way
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: to see what happens if you don't get enough light,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: you know, because we need light too as humans because
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: we absorb these vitamins through light sunlight.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: So I hate to admit it, but you are correct.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: So it's called UVB. I believe availability. So seasonal like
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: places like example for example, that like stay dark longer,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: should know there's gonna be that's exactly right. People are
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: going to be more prone to that and there's evidence
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: of this in archaeological records, right.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can look through archaeological evidence from pre
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: industrial Europe and you'll see that Rickets was having a moment.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: There are skeletal changes that are indicative of childhood Rickets
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: or here's a new word for us today, adult osteo Malaysia.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: And you can see this in France, you can see
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: in Italy, Roman, Dorset, North Yorkshire. It's it's all over
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the place. And hopefully we have with a couple of tangents, granted,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: hopefully we have made the case that even if you
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: like me, hate and fear the sun, you should get
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: out there. You gotta put yourself out there.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Touch grass. You gotta touch the grass. Stop playing Breath
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: of the Wild for a few minutes, just get out there.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: And speaking of segues, you know who were kind of
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the juggalos of their day, the California Raisins.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Right, oh man, this is a banger that Max Road.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: So the California Raisins, right, So those first things first.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: The California raisins were a marketing invention by like the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: raisin lobby basically, right yeah, And they were initially the
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: claymation in these commercials for literal California Raisins snacks, right, yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: nature's candy. Raisins are bullshit, by the way I can
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: handle them.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: They're grapes that are failures there.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fail sun grapes, that's what they are. They're terrible.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I told you right.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: One time I tried to make raisins as a kid.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I took a bunch of grapes and I like, hid
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: them behind a door in our basement.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Work. No, it didn't and maybe and then you ate
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: them and tripped balls psychoactive.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: So also, raisins always feels like the disappointing thing that's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: given to you, as though it's a tree.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, how is it a brag that the box
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: of raisin brands says it has more extra scoops scoops? Yeah?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: And how much Rabney rat turns are in there too? Listen.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, clearly, but you know what's funny is I
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: think this was probably they needed something to raisins and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: make it like sexy for the kids, you know. So
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: they have these claymation things. Max is putting them up
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: on the screen and it's fabulous. I forgot you guys
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: like to watch it? Why don't we play a brief yet?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Let's play I don't think I think Big rays in
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a lettuce slide. Come on, guyslet's harmonize. I've been footed
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: on the radio. You did it? I remember this one.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: There's like a is that guy a carrot? What is
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: this weird? Is he a radish? Why is he white?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: He looks like I guess there are white carrots. Well,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: you know, he's a root vegetable sort. There's a guy
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: in So to set the scene, this is a barn
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: lounge concert venue. The Raisins were performing. That's filling.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: That's Buddy Mills actually singing.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Is it really yep?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And Buddy Miles excuse me? And I owned one of
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: those little places at where they would you would turn
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: it on and noise, and then I.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Had a bendy army one. Yeah, I mean almost like
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: a mister Potato had type situation. But anyways, so there
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: was a cartoon, kids cartoon all this to say the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: max and the outline said the Mumps sound like a
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: band that would have opened for the California reasons or
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: just in general. I could see the Momps as being
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: like a like a sixties girl group type psychedelic type band,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: you know, think of like the Zombies and the Mumps.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: What's Hermon's Hermits?
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: What's that place in New York City, the famous punk venue.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: G Cbgb'sgb's, Like, yeah, there's even a band. There is
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: a band called the Mummies. That's actually a really fun
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: They dressed like mummies. But the momps, this one gets
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: to the so therefore it immediately Sorry for all that
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: California raisin stuff, but I think it was worth it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: She's mumps, She's mumps. She's in my head, she is
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in my head.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: This is one that I believe has been largely eradicated
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: because of vaccinations, which we'll get into in a minute.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: But the momps, according to the Mayo Clinic, as an
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: illness caused by a virus, usually affects the glands on
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: each side of the face, then cause them to swell.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: These glands, called peroted glands, make saliva, swollen glands, maybe
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: tender or painful. Mumps are not common in the United
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: States because of vaccines, So again, not eradicated, but largely mitigated.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Like you said, Ben, there's a pretty funny plot line
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: in the series Brooklyn ninety nine that involves the mumps,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and they make a lot out of the fact that
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: that swelling can also happen in the testicles. Ah, yes,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: you get enlarged, enlarged testes to take doing this with
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: my hand, like vaguely hands, Yeah you know what I'm doing. Yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I feel you, man, I got you back.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: This is also this reminds me of cat scratch fever,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: which is a real thing.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I think kind of makes you like, do the cat's bidding?
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Basically that's toxic plasmic.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Now I'm starting to think it might be more dangerous
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to have befriended these cats.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: They're not to be trusted, right so, but they're so interesting.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: They are interesting, but they don't give a no no.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: They are all gas, no breaks as far as how
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: they treat humans. And I think we can befriend them,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you know, but if they were the size of tigers
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: your house cat.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Would he When they're in chill mode though, they're a
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: lot of fun. But when they're and don't give a mode,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: they they're pure chaos energy. They're unpredictable. But I have
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: two of them. I love them.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got two as well. Max has a cat
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: will learn Alex's pet situation in due time.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Hopefully it's not a pet cemetery type of things. Hopefully
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: it's not a pet semestery dark book. That is a
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: dark book. That's frightening. I really enjoyed it, very mean spirited.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: No wonder it lived in a drawer for as long
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: as it did.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was probably wondering, what will people think of me?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Will they think that my mind is disease? Well, they
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: think I'm a freaky weirdo. What you Steven, No, here's
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the issue with mumps. Here's why you gotta get vaccinated
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: for it. This is it presents similar to the flu.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: In the beginning, You'll have fevers, you have headaches, muscle aches,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: you'll feel just kind of down. And it's not until
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: later that the clear symptoms of mumps developed.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: The swelling. Yeah, that can be the glands below the
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: floor of the mouth. I that I'm doing it with
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: my tongue, so that's like literally the bottom and on
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: either side, I think the basement of your mouth. That's right,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: that's right, the wine cellar there, it is of the
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: of the head.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And the problem with this is that because the disease
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: has become pretty rare in a lot of countries that
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: have implemented vaccination programs.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Why is vaccination so controversial?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's the first it's controversial. Oh, we talked
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: about this their book stuff.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe mandated anything medical is feels controversial.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It will be also things like the the horrific actions
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: of the tuskegeek.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: That's for sure. That's for sure. This I would argue
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: that a non controversial vaccination. It's called MMR right, the mumps,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: measles and rebella. That's then they give that to kids.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I remember the first shot I ever gotten. I think
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I wept openly, not not out of joy, out of terror.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: When I started hitting the road, Like when I went
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to live in Central America. That was one of the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: things that freaked me out just a little bit. I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: had a card like a yellow vaccination can't you remember those?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: And they had the list of the different things I
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: had to get vaccinated for, and each one of them
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: sounded like they were warning me that I would be
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: in a terrible situation like okay, danghay fever, yellow fever.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Where we at with mumps. They started naming diseases I
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: neither I had neither heard of nor believed existed. You know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, this doctor, is just freestyle.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Dang gay fever is the one where you poop a lot? Right? Oh? Doc?
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know because luckily I didn't get it. I
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: think you get it from like tainted water. If I'm
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: the mistake. I think it involves like really explosive diarrhea, okay,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: like dysentery. I think it's something like, oh, it's caused
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: by it's.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Caused by the danngay virus transmitted by mosquito.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Oh okay. Oh man, oh that's that's that's a rough one,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: isn't it funny? How the stuff that's in tonic water quinine,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: it was like a very important malaria curet and imperfect. Yeah, man,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I think about that when I drink quarter or two.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: It's probably why I don't drink too much of it. Now.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: No pooping and dan gay fever, well you're still pooping,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: also known though as break bone fever. Yeah, that's pretty intense. Center.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: That's intense, you know. And look, the mumps can be
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: very intense. And because they are rare, if you have
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a suspected mumps situation in your life, you're supposed to
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: tell the medical provider beforehand so they can prepare, which
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: is kind of weird because can you imagine going to
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a hospital and say, okay, I'm sorry, I have the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: mumps or you know, my case as the mumps or something,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and they say we're not ready for you.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: No, we need time, we need time. Just hold on.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Good luck with your glands. Yeah seriously. Oh that's another
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: good band. By the way, at Athens band they're called
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: the Glands. Oh yeah, fun, fun name for a band.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: But this condition was first documented or written about as
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: far back as the fifth century BCE by Hippocrates, the
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: father of medicine, the Hippocratic oath. You might have heard
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: of it, Do no harm? Is that part of it?
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That's part of it. And you know, like Ricketts, this
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: has been around for a really long time. As Hippocrates
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: describes it, he says, swelling appeared about in the years,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and many on either side, and then the greatest number
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: on both sides, which is, okay, it's weird, little redundantly, yeah,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: but he's trying to be specific, and he goes on
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to describe the way these things look disused.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: A lax large, diffused character without inflammation or pain. And
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: they went away without any critical son. That doesn't sound
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: so bad. No, it doesn't sound so bad.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: And we're actually all very fortunate because so many people
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: get mumps vaccinations when they're kids. You know, you, if
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: you're hearing this now, you probably have a mump's vaccination.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens so long ago that you might not remember.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I do remember distinctly being terrified it
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: was the first shot because it was the one, it
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: was the one all the kids get. And now I
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: think maybe there are more, because there are some that are,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: you know, very like I think we you know, my
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: ex wife, who I love dearly, and we're very close
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit on the holistic hippiepe side, and so
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: we I think we're a little selective about the vaccinations
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: we got our kid, or we spaced them out, because
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I think one of the controversies is that there's concern
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: if you like overload this kid, a young child's system
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: and doom all at once, that it can potentially have
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: some adverse events. Yeah, so I don't think we skipped any,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: but we definitely like spaced them out or something. Yeah,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: because you can't. They won't let you go to school
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: if you get if you don't get some of these.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, And again there's with good reason, because
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: schools on the best days are just hotbeds vector disease
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and dirtiness. There's all kinds of strange poop getting in
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: strange places, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: don't know if I need to get that specific strange poop.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Another banger of abandoned strange poop.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Oh geez, let's talk about the etymology, no, Like, where
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: does mumps come from?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Well? I do love the expression. Mum's the word, you know,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: like like a hush, right mum. But then I also
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: associate that with like the mummers in Old English culture,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: who are sort of they would do these like it
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: was a it was a form of theater mumming. They
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: would travel door to door.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, door to the door, and they would do certain
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: ritual skits or sketches or plays, and it is very
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: common in uh in Ireland.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: That's right, And I believe Middle English era, right is
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: when that was the thing. So we don't quite see
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: a connection to that, but I believe they were silent
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: in many ways. It was almost like mime. If I'm
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: not mistaken, I'm wondering, you know, just you know, I
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: always do this, and I'm usually wrong, or I'm like,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I wonder if the atymology of this word has to
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: do with this thing that it sounds like, and it
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: usually doesn't, but in any case, it does come from
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: one theory is fifteen sixties of her mum to make silence,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: to be silent. But then there's also a version of
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: it that's mom, an inarticulate, closed mouth sound indicative of
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: unwillingness or inability to speak, probably imitative as an ad
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: there you go exactly, then as an adjective meaning secret
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: or silent, from the fifteen twenties. Mum's the word again,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of course, seventeen oh four. But also mumbull is kind
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: of what you were doing, or the idea of speaking
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: in a jumbled, muted kind of way. It's hard to discern,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: you know. So all these things do seem related. Mambolin,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: which is to eat in a slow, ineffective manner, or
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to talk with one's mouthful, which is like you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: marble mouth, kind of.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Viral, right, right, right.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of different thoughts around this, and I
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: don't quite see how you know what, No, it does
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: make sense. Sorry, if you have swollen glands in your mouth,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that would cause you to be a
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: little mumbly, yeah, mumbly. Okay. We also have some honorable
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: mentions we wanted to get to. There are, as we
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: said in the previous episode, there are a ton of
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: very strange names for diseases, and a lot of these
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: names are really funny and delightful, and the conditions are terrible.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking of things like one of my favorites. I
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: just got to say it, one of my favorites, brain fever.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I love, love love using brain fever in stories. I
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: love mentioning it. I've tried to use it as an
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: excuse to call in sick to work. I'm sorry, I
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: couldn't possibly come in then I'm afflicted with brain fever.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: That was before I shifted to just getting out of
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: social obligations by saying I have become strange.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it becomes strange. So where are you not? Though? Thanks?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: And brain fever is when a it's a dated term.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: You see it a lot of Victorian literature, sort of
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: a general term kind of too right.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, part part of the brain becomes inflamed and causes.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: The idea was a cause of symptoms that present as
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: a fever. I just want hallucinations, even right, hallucinations. Yeah,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: there's another one that we just have to mention. This
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: is so weird. Maple syrup urine disease.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: This is new to me. It sounds I immediately am
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: picturing Kevin Costner peeing into that thing in water World
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: and then drinking it. Oh yeah, this is okay. I'm sorry.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I don't want to conjure any images of you putting
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: your own urine on pancakes. But I've done it. There,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I've done it. Can't be taken back. Now what is
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: maple syrup urin? Wait? Wait, let's go back to this.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Why did you be on the pancakes because of the
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Because because it tastes like maple syrup. Oh I know, yeah, no, no,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: tell me I'm wrong.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: One of the symptoms is sweet smelling urine.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but no one's necessarily gone so far as to
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: taste it because that would be gross.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Billions of people have lived and die.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: People just yeah, it's some holistic kind of.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: It's been used in some traditional foods in like North
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Africa and parts of China. Yeah, yeah, it's it's weird. Uh, everybody,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: look up centry eggs.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: So oh those are like are those the ones where
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: like the fetus is still like almost fully butte terrified.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I've I've terrified.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I've eaten both and I will take ballute over centry eggs.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: An that's terrifying nightmare fuel to me.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Oh excuse me, sorry, there, I am incorrect everybody. They're
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: not called centry eggs. What I'm thinking of is I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: just have to be accurate here in all something called
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: virgin boy eggs.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, would you like to turn back now? No? No, no, possibly?
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  Speaker 1: All right, So back in the day, these things are
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: similar to centry eggs, but back in the day in
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: parts of China, you would create these things by boiling
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: eggs in the urine of young boys under the age
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: of ten HONGI dam, they're called uh. And you know,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: we always say we don't want to judge or yuck
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: someone's yum. But at a certain point, I'm just gonna
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: have to say no.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I gotta say though, Man century eggs I'm intrigued by.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: They look kind of good, and it says they have
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: a rich and indulgent mouth feel and a custardy sweetness
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and earthy notes. And they look like a damn geode. Yeah,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: like those you know those by say did crystal things?
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: You didn't like them? No? I didn't. I did not.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: You didn't need the boy you'urine ones though? No, no,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: no, no no, it seems like that wouldn't go over so
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: well today. Yeah, how do you go about collecting this ingredients?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, how many questions that Facebook marketplace post
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: has got to be on a couple of government lists.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: But so, maple syrup urine disease is a genetic disorder.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: It starts in childhood. It can lead to all sorts
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: of terrible things up to an including death if it's
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: not treated. So don't again, don't let the nice name
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: fool you folks.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Does sound pleasant?
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: It sounds you know what, there's maybe if we have time,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: let's talk about one more. Paris syndrome.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: That sounds okay, it sounds fancy.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Paris syndrome. I when I first heard about it, I
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: thought it was the plot of like a Hallmark movie,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: sure or something, you know, But it turns out you've.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Got mail right exactly. Or forget Paris. That's the one
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking with Billy Christ.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: This is not a physical condition. This is a mental condition.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Because you know, you've been to Paris. It's a beauty well,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: parts of it are beautiful. The culture is amazing, and
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: everybody around the world who is not French tends to
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: have a kind of rose colored glasses idea sure of
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: what Paris is. The problem is, turns out, a lot
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: of tourists over the years save up their whole lives.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: They want to take this trip to Paris. They get
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: there and they meet the actual Paris and it's not
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: what they expected. You know, it's definitely a modern city.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of noise, very crowded. Like any city,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: there are going to be some rude people. Apparently this
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: affects some people so much, this discrepancy, that they get
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Paris syndrome. They get disoriented, they get shocked, and feelings
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: of persecution, and sometimes they hallucinate.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Cool, Oh you're in good. Hallucine is fun every now
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: and again. Have you heard of Stendall syndrome?
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Stendall what is it?
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: What is it? Stendall syndrome, also known as Florence syndrome,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: is a kind of a psychosomatic condition where you are
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: overcome and often even compelled to hallucinate by being exposed
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: to beautiful works of art. Oh okay, And there's actually
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: a Dario Argento film, the Italian Giallo kind of creator
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: of sort of the slasher Italian slasher film genre, called
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Stendall Syndrome where this actually is a big plot point.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: And I think we talked about it actually on a
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: strange news episode of Stuff they Don't Want you to
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Know recently, where you there was a supposedly a woman
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: who was an orgasm during a symphony and there's you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: tape of the sound of this person in ecstasy, and
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: it was conjecture that this could potentially have been that,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: or it could just been someone getting diddled, you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: in a symphony. Maybe it was Lauren Bobert. There we go, Yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: and with this, we're gonna we're gonna call it in folks.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: There's so many, so many different things could have gone on.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: We could have gone on, but at the end, I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: suspect we would have started making up our own conditions.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Who knows, we didn't. Who know, who's to say, probably
• 40:16
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• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Max Williams the doctor listening to this show thanks to
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I hope so, but doctor, what that's the question actly?
• 40:28
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• 40:30
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• 40:35
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• 40:47
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