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Recapping Jaguars Joint Practice with the Lions | Huddle Up Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:24
  Speaker 1: It is Huddle Up.
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  Speaker 2: J P. Shadrick with you from the Team Hotel in Troy, Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: as the Jaguars and the Detroit Lions get joint practices
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  Speaker 2: underway earlier today, plenty to get two on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up today, we'll review the first joint.
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  Speaker 2: Practice the Jaguars and Lions and full pads today Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: D line, Lions O line going at it and one
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  Speaker 2: on one drills and vice versa. We'll get some breakdown
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  Speaker 2: of some of those performances today. Another practice on the
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  Speaker 2: books tomorrow and then Saturday. It's preseason week two at
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  Speaker 2: Ford Field and downtown Detroit. Is the Lions entertain the
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars Suddle Up with the Bucky Brooks is brought
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  Speaker 2: here though Jeff Loghman is with us here in Troy, Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for hopping on, Logan, thanks for having me, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, I was just telling you guys, I
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  Speaker 2: feel honored to be able to sit in for Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 2: And Bucky Brooks, I mean, is he getting a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of payback from Johnny Manziel. I saw him in
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  Speaker 2: the series about Johnny Manziel the Netflix thing. Yeah he was.
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  Speaker 2: He was at a table at the combine interviewing Johnny
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  Speaker 2: Manziel and he looks so young, both of them.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that was good plenty to get to today.
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  Speaker 2: Of course after the first to joint practice, let's hear
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  Speaker 2: from Doug Peterson before practice on what to expect from
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  Speaker 2: these two practices at Allen Park.
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  Speaker 3: It's not about you know, who's the tougher man. It's
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  Speaker 3: about getting good work in and there It's gonna be physical.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the way padded practices are. You know,
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  Speaker 3: our guys understand, you know that that we're here to
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  Speaker 3: work and to get get some quality time.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Done.
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  Speaker 2: That was before practice. Today they go out with full
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  Speaker 2: pads today. A few chippy moments, but really nothing over
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  Speaker 2: the edge today, which is really good work.
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  Speaker 1: John by this, uh, these.
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  Speaker 2: Two teams, both up and coming teams talking to Evan
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  Speaker 2: Ingram after practice that they're kind of in the same ballpark,
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  Speaker 2: same idea, right. NFC for the Lions finished strong last year.
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  Speaker 2: The Jaguars did what they did. They kind of ascending franchises,
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  Speaker 2: so there's a lot of respect out there on the
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  Speaker 2: field today.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I want to get Jeff's thoughts on this in
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  Speaker 4: a minute, but it seemed I missed the first maybe
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  Speaker 4: seven or eight minutes because of those over shooting Jaguars am.
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  Speaker 4: But once I got out there, all the feedback everything
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  Speaker 4: you saw was at the Jaguars defense, especially the pass rush,
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  Speaker 4: had a pretty good day against a pretty good offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: Looked like the Lions offense later on had some success,
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  Speaker 4: But the NFL offenses are going to have success much
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  Speaker 4: talent as Lions have. Jeff, I'm wondering if you saw
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  Speaker 4: the same thing. Pretty good day for the front seven
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  Speaker 4: for the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was arguably the best day for the
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  Speaker 2: pass rush in one on one, which camp Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: And here's the thing. Look, I was really looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to watching the one on one drow because the Detroit
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  Speaker 2: Lions have two of the best tackles that there is
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  Speaker 2: in a National Football League, maybe the best tandem with
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  Speaker 2: Pine Sue at right tackle Taylor Decker at left tackle,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, a really good tandem. And I thought that
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  Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker Josh Allen had very productive days arguably their
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  Speaker 2: best days, and that's what you want to see against
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  Speaker 2: premier competition. Now, the chippiness that you alluded to, I
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  Speaker 2: think it was a little bit more than just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. The Detroit Lions looked like they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: build an identity on defense, and those guys were the
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  Speaker 2: ones that were kind of crossing the line. It was
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  Speaker 2: on them, yeah, okay, and they were crossing the line,
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  Speaker 2: and the Jaguars offensive players are like, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 2: And in fact, at one point, I mean there were
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  Speaker 2: both teams leaving the sidelines on opposite sides of the
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  Speaker 2: field to meet in the middle, and uh, there was
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  Speaker 2: more than a little bit of push them shoving going on, right,
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  Speaker 2: But the point is that I haven't made this point.
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  Speaker 2: After practice, you can go up to the edge of
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  Speaker 2: that and protect your guys. That's no punch is thrown,
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  Speaker 2: there's none of that stuff going on. There's those Well,
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  Speaker 2: if you're gonna do it, just make sure nobody sees it.
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  Speaker 2: Set a tone, right, Well, yeah, I mean set a
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  Speaker 2: tone and then just make sure that you don't get
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  Speaker 2: over the line, or at least get perceived across that line.
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  Speaker 2: The other part of the one on ones today. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: this Lion's defensive line is stocked with big names, young talent,
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  Speaker 2: the whole deal against the Jaguars tackles on the outside
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  Speaker 2: walker little Anton Harrison, who actually left practice early today,
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  Speaker 2: kind of favoring that shoulder again, What did you make
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  Speaker 2: of those groups today? Well, when when they went to
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  Speaker 2: one on one, Okay, there they were literally if I
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  Speaker 2: was standing in the in the middle, okay, and Selly's here,
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  Speaker 2: Trent Balky's here, I mean worse at the perfect position
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  Speaker 2: because we can literally go watch the defense pass rush
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  Speaker 2: one on one, turn your head to the right, and
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  Speaker 2: then watch the offense against the Detroit Lions and pass
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  Speaker 2: rush one on one. And it was a great venue point.
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  Speaker 2: And I can tell you Aiden Hutchinson got stoned a
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  Speaker 2: few times against Anton Harrison, and Anton Harrison I thought
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  Speaker 2: was really good. Not only was his feet good, but
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  Speaker 2: he really showed an ability to anchor, which is what
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  Speaker 2: I had a little bit of concern about, not a lot,
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  Speaker 2: and so I thought he had a really good day.
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  Speaker 2: So I think there was some really good things on
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  Speaker 2: both sides of it. And then you brought up the
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  Speaker 2: shoulder after that one on one drill in a team period.
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  Speaker 2: Anton Harrison had to come out and was in a
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  Speaker 2: noticeable amount of pain. And he's wearing a harness. And
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  Speaker 2: for people that don't know what a harness, there's a
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  Speaker 2: shoulder harness. There's a kind of a cloth and this
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  Speaker 2: material that goes around the chest and then it connects
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  Speaker 2: to a cuff that goes around the arm. And what
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  Speaker 2: it's designed to do and there's a connection between the
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  Speaker 2: two and it's designed to keep the arm from getting
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  Speaker 2: away from the chest body too far, to help protect
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  Speaker 2: the shoulder a little bit. And it's something that he's wearing.
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  Speaker 2: And if he had a problem with the shoulder earlier
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  Speaker 2: in camp and then it grabbed him like that today
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  Speaker 2: and camp might I'm not an expert here, but I've
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  Speaker 2: warned those shoulder harnesses before and it was usually an
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  Speaker 2: indication there's something wrong and it probably needs fixing, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's you can still play with it right.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully he'll get you know, shut him down for the
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  Speaker 4: rest of preseason maybe, I mean I'm just speculating, maybe
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  Speaker 4: give him some rest for the regular season at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I just have for a rookie out there, and
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  Speaker 2: he's a young player. You want to give him the
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  Speaker 2: rest and look and hopefully it's not something that needs
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  Speaker 2: fixed that it just needs rest. And they're being overly
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  Speaker 2: cautious with the whole harness thing. But I can tell
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  Speaker 2: you that send me a first round pick. He's a
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  Speaker 2: right tackle. You're gonna be losing your starting left tackle
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  Speaker 2: Cam Robinson for what four games to start the season
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  Speaker 2: out And Josh Wells went out with an injury today
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  Speaker 2: where it did some kind of an injury. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know exactly what it is. I mean, so now of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, what a position that you felt like was
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  Speaker 2: very deep once you started training camp and in a
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  Speaker 2: matter of one day you go, oh, well, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 2: here a little concerning.
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  Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Plenty more ahead recapping the first joint practice for the
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: Jaguars and the Lions in Detroit today.
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  Speaker 2: is huddle up.
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  Speaker 3: There's moments throughout a course of an NFL year where
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: there's there's games, there's you know, situations, it might be,
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: could be an injury to your team, whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 3: That the kind of spurs a little bit inside of everybody,
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: coaches and players. And obviously that was a that was
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: a moment that wasn't our best and we seemed to
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  Speaker 3: kind of figure it out from there and flip it,
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  Speaker 3: flip it around after that.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that is of course had Joe Doug Peterson
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: and rehashing the Week thirteen game last year.
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  Speaker 1: The Lions hung a.
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  Speaker 2: Forty burger on the Jags forty to fourteen, but it
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  Speaker 2: was the beginning of the great run for the Jags.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: It's huddle Op, JP, Shadwick, John Ozier, Jeff Logerman and
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  Speaker 2: for Bucky And we're here in the Detroit area at
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  Speaker 2: the team Hotel after joint practices today and tomorrow at
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  Speaker 2: Allen Park, the home of the Lions. Today in pads,
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe pads. Tomorrow, we're breaking down some of
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  Speaker 2: the action earlier today and John, you and I talked
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  Speaker 2: about it right after practice blogs. I think I might
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  Speaker 2: have been standing near you. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: saw it or not. Was to me the play of
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  Speaker 2: the day was Devin Lloyd stepping back in coverage. I
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  Speaker 2: think it was the first snap of like the regular
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  Speaker 2: middle of the field, eleven on eleven drifting back in
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  Speaker 2: coverage one handed, right hand interception makes a great playoff
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  Speaker 2: Jared Goff. That's a good sign. I mean, what a
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  Speaker 2: fantastic play for Lloyd. And what kind of camp have
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  Speaker 2: you seen out of Devon? It looks to me.
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  Speaker 4: Like he's seeing it better, like he's more aware, and
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  Speaker 4: he certainly thinks so, and talking to Josh after practice,
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  Speaker 4: he certainly thinks so. When he's around the ball, he
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  Speaker 4: makes plays. He's athletic. I guess I would again defer
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  Speaker 4: to Loggs. Do you feel like you're seeing a little
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  Speaker 4: more awareness out of him this year? To me, it
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  Speaker 4: seems like you are.
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  Speaker 2: The One thing I think it's very noticeable is that
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  Speaker 2: he looks to Foyer less when the huddle breaks and
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  Speaker 2: then when the communication is happening when they're on the field,
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  Speaker 2: which last year, Tom, I mean, I hate to say this,
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  Speaker 2: Devin was like looking at foyer the whole time, and
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  Speaker 2: then looking at the offense kind of get in the
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  Speaker 2: gauge what am I supposed to do? And then where
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  Speaker 2: am I supposed to be? And when you play linebacker,
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  Speaker 2: you can't do that. You're the one that has to
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  Speaker 2: be directing the traffic. And then your mind has to
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  Speaker 2: be clean, clear and free so that you can be
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  Speaker 2: an athlete and you can anticipate, so your focus is
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  Speaker 2: on what they're doing as an offense instead of what
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  Speaker 2: I have to do. And so that's a good sign
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: so far. And he's like a magnet, isn't he with
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  Speaker 2: the ball?
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  Speaker 4: And the ball is like all it gets in his hands.
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  Speaker 4: And it's funny, Jeff, I hadn't talked to you about this.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't tell Devin Lloyd, but you had just said
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  Speaker 4: because you just said it now without being prompted. This
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  Speaker 4: morning when I was talking to him, he said the
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: exact thing thing you did. He said last year when
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  Speaker 4: I was breaking the huddle. I'm prayer phrasing this, but
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  Speaker 4: when they broke the huddle, he had this instinct of
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: wanting to see the call sheet again, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: just sort of wishing he could see it one more time.
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  Speaker 4: To make sure, and he said, now and he makes
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  Speaker 4: the call, meaning Foy. When he makes a call on
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  Speaker 4: the huddle, he's.
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  Speaker 2: Out and he's ready to go.
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  Speaker 4: So it's interesting that you use that terminology and that anecdote.
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  Speaker 4: And he said, without you prompting. Hey, that's what I'm feeling.
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  Speaker 2: So I watched the film, Johnny.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I was giving more credit to him than you.
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  Speaker 4: But you go ahead and take credit.
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  Speaker 2: You're fine, now, I know. And here's the thing. You
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  Speaker 2: love the guy, Yeah, you love the guy because he
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  Speaker 2: is such a good guy. He works his tail off.
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  Speaker 2: And the gold standard for the linebackers in Jaguars history
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  Speaker 2: is who Paulpa's less me? Sure, right? I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: mean there were some great linebackers, don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Hardy was a great player, But I'm talking about
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  Speaker 2: the gold standard as far as the guy that had
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  Speaker 2: the work ethic, the knowledge, the availability was there all
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  Speaker 2: the time. And I think we have another one in
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  Speaker 2: the making here because he's just so committed. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: here's a guy that think about this now, the mandatory
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: mini camp, all the players that attended all the off
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  Speaker 2: season workouts, the OTAs, and then where they're working now.
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  Speaker 2: We're given a free pass that they didn't have to
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  Speaker 2: attend the mandatory mini camp. Josh Allen didn't have that
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  Speaker 2: luxury because he wasn't around, okay, with a contract, you know,
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  Speaker 2: negotiation that was going on. And uh so Devin Lloyd
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  Speaker 2: could have went home and eight cheetos on the couch
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  Speaker 2: in his underwear, watching cartoons like JP and he didn't.
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  Speaker 2: He chose to participate in the mandatory mini camp because
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  Speaker 2: he felt that it was valuable for him to get
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  Speaker 2: the reps. I mean, I was dedicatedd but I probably
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  Speaker 2: would have been eating cheetahs. But I know, I give
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  Speaker 2: him credit because I mean, he's that guy of a
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  Speaker 2: likable guy and you root for him and he is
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  Speaker 2: like a magnet when he's around the ball, and he's
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  Speaker 2: so dagum athletic. The one thing he's not he's not
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  Speaker 2: a blazing fast guy. And so if you're not fast,
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  Speaker 2: because like go back to puzzlesni and who played alongside him,
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  Speaker 2: Telvin Smith. Tellvin Smith was blazing fast. They got there
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  Speaker 2: at the same time. Pobs got there because he anticipated
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  Speaker 2: Telvin got there because he was he was there fast. Well,
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  Speaker 2: if Devin Lloyd, who doesn't have blazing speed. If he
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  Speaker 2: can get the mental aspect of it down. He's such
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  Speaker 2: a freak athletically, he can do some great things if
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  Speaker 2: he gets the understanding of the defense and it's good.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, you can see that they're signs that
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  Speaker 2: it's coming to him, and that's encouraging.
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  Speaker 4: And the way he explained to me last year at
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  Speaker 4: that position, that split second of waiting and watching it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't take very long. It didn't have to be an
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  Speaker 4: entire second. It can just be a half a step
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  Speaker 4: makes all the difference in the world. So if he
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  Speaker 4: makes up that half step, he's there more.
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  Speaker 2: Often this year. Give you an example. If I'm a
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  Speaker 2: half a step slow at linebacker, okay, and here's a
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  Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty pound guard, let's be reasonable, three
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  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five pound guard, okay, and he has
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  Speaker 2: six inches of angle on me. Okay. Six inches of
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  Speaker 2: angle makes all the difference in the world for an
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  Speaker 2: approach with a defender to take on a block to
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  Speaker 2: be in a favorable position. So if Devin Lloyd has
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  Speaker 2: the instincts and the understanding and the anticipation to eliminate
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  Speaker 2: that six inch lag or you know, the to get
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  Speaker 2: on top of six inches the other way. Then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden he's in a position of power. And
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  Speaker 2: so that's the type of thing that can make all
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  Speaker 2: the difference in the world. And also six inches between
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  Speaker 2: him and the ball, six inches between him and getting
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  Speaker 2: a pass breakup, six inch between making a tie.
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  Speaker 4: Big and thing about him, as you said, when he's
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  Speaker 4: around the ball, he recovers or intercepts it. So he's
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  Speaker 4: a turnover maker linebacker, which you can probably count on
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  Speaker 4: one hand in the league the number of linebackers you think, okay,
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  Speaker 4: they're going to create a lot of turnovers even not
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  Speaker 4: being aware. Last year he had three interceptions. Boy, what
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  Speaker 4: is he when he's aware?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, this is huddle up.
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  Speaker 4: J P.
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  Speaker 2: Shadwick, Jeff Lagow and John Os're glad you're with us
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  Speaker 2: from the team hotel in Troy, Michigan. Hey, so we
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  Speaker 2: mentioned a couple of the offensive injuries today on the
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: defensive line. It was one of the defensive lines today
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  Speaker 2: as well. Fully fought a Cassi left practice today and
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  Speaker 2: obviously that's because I guess looked like a lower right leg.
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  Speaker 2: Not sure exactly, no official.
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  Speaker 4: He told somebody afterwards that he was okay. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you hope that's not just the player being brave and
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  Speaker 4: saying he's okay. But I really hope he's okay, because
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  Speaker 4: it felt to me like he was twice the players right,
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  Speaker 4: but that he was being the player that they thought
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  Speaker 4: they were getting last year when they signed him. He
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  Speaker 4: was a lot closer to it. And if you package
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  Speaker 4: him and Hamilton and Roy Robertson Harris, you've got a
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  Speaker 4: good defensive three up there. I think he's pretty important
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  Speaker 4: at this thing, Jeff.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of three of the big strong dudes, right,
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  Speaker 2: Devon Hamilton, Roy Robertson Harris and fully fought a Cossi
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  Speaker 2: are the three big strong dudes. And availability is key, okay,
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  Speaker 2: And last year he missed a lot of games with
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  Speaker 2: injury and wasn't able to find a groove with his defense,
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  Speaker 2: and I was hoping that he be able to stay healthy.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's a looked like a
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  Speaker 2: foot ankle, whatever it may be. Hopefully he's okay because
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  Speaker 2: he's been having a pretty good camp so far.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with him moving ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars wide receivers had a pretty good day. We'll break
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  Speaker 2: it down after this unhuddle up. Welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: It's huddle up.
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  Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, jap Shadrick, John Ozier, Jeff Logman, our
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: entire crew from the Team Hotel in Troy, Michigan. The
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars and the Detroit Lions joint practice today and again tomorrow,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: and then the Jags are on their own Friday, and
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: then it's preseason week two Saturday, one o'clock kickoff time
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  Speaker 2: at Ford Field in downtown Detroit. The Lions and the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars coming up. So we're breaking down today's joint practice
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: pads today. Some fans out there and the Detroit fans
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: got to get a look at Calvin Ridley today for
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: the first time. And there were a couple of moments
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  Speaker 2: John in practice where he stood out and what I
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: saw early in seven on seven near the goal line,
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  Speaker 2: he breaks out to the left front left pylon, makes
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  Speaker 2: a catch over a defender tells him all about it,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: and it turns out they grew up in Florida together,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: so there's a little bit of that going on with
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley today. But Christian Kirk had one of a
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: similar play on the front right pylon today for a
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  Speaker 2: touchdown down in that kind of tight goal line area
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  Speaker 2: in seven on seven, So there was another deep baul
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  Speaker 2: to Ridley today too. So the receiving group here, we've
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  Speaker 2: heard about them all camp, but they're continuing to make play. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I thought Trevor also had a nice play. I think
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  Speaker 4: it was to Ingram in the in the final eleven
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  Speaker 4: on eleven where he got saw the defender come off
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  Speaker 4: about a twenty yard pass down the field, which I
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  Speaker 4: thought was good considering that felt like the most live
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  Speaker 4: and practiced me. I watched the offense the whole day
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  Speaker 4: and I had kind of a funny, uh I guess
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  Speaker 4: feeling about it. I wasn't overly dazzled. Calvin really had
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  Speaker 4: a beautiful deep route and it looked like the Lion's
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  Speaker 4: cornerback lost him and he was about fifteen yards open.
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  Speaker 4: So my first impression I wasn't dazzled. Then I thought, well,
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  Speaker 4: it wasdn' dazzled, but they still look good. So I
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  Speaker 4: think that's just sort of what you expect now. And
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  Speaker 4: it seems like every practice you go out there and
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  Speaker 4: Ridley does something that he makes a look routine. It's
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  Speaker 4: not routine, I guess, is what I'm getting at jests.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a good thing when you're not dazzled
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  Speaker 4: by something you see offensively and it's just what.
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  Speaker 2: They do, right. I thought it was a good day. Yeah,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: not a great day, but a good day, which you know, look,
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  Speaker 2: you start stacking good days together and you're gonna win
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  Speaker 2: a lot of football games. And you know, think about
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: adding Calvin Ridley to the current mix that you have.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's not forget that Zay Jones and Christian Kirk,
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  Speaker 2: I think the only due in the league that had
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: ady ketches life year together. I mean that's tremendous. And
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  Speaker 2: now you're adding a talent that looks like he's a
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  Speaker 2: step above even those two guys. So I think it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be exciting. And they're getting great work in
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and they're competitive as all get out, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: you really like to see. And Trevor I think, is
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  Speaker 2: still getting better and he's not perfect. He still makes
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: some mistake. There was one play where he take the
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  Speaker 2: handoff and went to hit a slant right to his right,
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  Speaker 2: and he missed it by like, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think three yards or something like that. And I loved
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: about what happened next after the drill, Trevor and Christian
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  Speaker 2: Kirk worked on the exact same play. I mean, when
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: you have a quarterback that sits there and goes dak gumman,
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  Speaker 2: I need to work on that. So the play or
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the group period ends and he goes over and has
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  Speaker 2: Christian run the exact same route, takes the handoff, makes
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  Speaker 2: the throw, and this time he hits it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's what you want to see out of a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: And that wasn't like the coaches said, hey, Trevor, come
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  Speaker 2: on over here, we need to work on that.
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  Speaker 4: He did that, and the receivers are pros too. They're
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: if not ahead of him, they know what's coming. They're
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: there on huddle up. Jeff, I like to ask questions
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: of the scout because Bucky's calling scouted with different hats.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're kind of.
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  Speaker 4: A scout as well. You could do that, explain to me,
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  Speaker 4: Zay Jones. I think people know Christian Kirk and they
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: know Ridley very well and he got a lot of
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  Speaker 4: pub What is it about Zay Jones that makes him
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  Speaker 4: good and why is he so important to what they do? Right?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Let me I answer the second part of that. First.
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  Speaker 2: He's the leader of that group, and you're talking a
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  Speaker 2: great group that has strong performers. He's the leader, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: all you got to do is watch the dynamic when
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and when they're in practice. You can tell that he's
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the guy that gets out front, He's the guy that talks,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and you can tell they all get along. And it's
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: because of save Ay's got a tremendous magnetic personality that
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I think really draws people in. I mean, you've talked
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: to him before and he's a joy to talk to,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: and he's not a bore right and Christian is a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: little bit more quiet and Ridley being the new guy
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: on the block, you can tell that Zay's kind of
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the leader of that group. And from talking to the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Wide Receiver coach Chad Hall, he said as much to
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  Speaker 2: me the week before last, said that Zay's really the
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  Speaker 2: leader of that group, but he's also an excellent performer.
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  Speaker 2: He's competitive as all get out and he works hard
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  Speaker 2: at his craft, and he's got a skill set that's
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: not to be just kind of dismissed. I mean, and
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  Speaker 2: that's the impressive part about Zay.
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  Speaker 4: Better deep runner, I mean, a better deep receiver that
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I think he gets credit for.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Trevor said, the best double move route runner on the
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  Speaker 2: roster last year was Zay Jones.
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  Speaker 1: I can see that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, in and out and then all of a
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: sudden breaking open down feet and he's got really good speed.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's got a lot of strong assets. And
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: we know all this too already, but we get this
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: is a smart wide receiver group too. You have to
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: really know this entire offense because they're flipping routes, set
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the line, but they don't have time to change positions
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: where they're lined up, and they're splits to run Zay,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: he's got to run Christian's route and vice versa. And
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: they did that a bunch last year. Add Ridley to
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: that mix and now you'll have some combinations against secondaries
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: that you should have some advantages.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you.
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  Speaker 2: Compare the Jaguars wide receiver group to like the Detroit Lions,
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  Speaker 2: and look, they've got a really good one at aman Ross.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Saint Brown really good, okay, But after him, this wide
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: receiver group that the Jaguars have, I can guarantee the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Lions would love to have this group. But I'm talking
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: not just the top four or five guys. You go
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: past the four or five guys that the Jaguars have,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: and you got some legitimate players that deserve to play
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in this league, from Tim Jones to Austin to eighty three.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I mean cooks, and Cooks is a young player, rookies.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: He needs some time yet. But I mean there's it's
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: always been around here. I mean that's yeah, you wish
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: that right. It's it's a deep group. And I can
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: tell you if you if you took away the top
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  Speaker 2: two guys, Okay, let's take Ridley and who's gonna be
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: number two? You're gonna take Christian out? Are you gonna
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: take that?
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Sake Kirk for stats?
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's take Kirk House. Now we got Za and
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the rest. You'd feel okay, you'd sit there and you go, well,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: we're unproven, but we feel confident about the prospect of
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: this young group because we feel like these guys are
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: gonna be able to compete. And I literally, if you
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: take the two top two guys out. You're probably not
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: even looking. I think you're still better than a Detroit.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Line, especially if you consider anger and receiver, which yeh.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden, they get really deep on guys.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Deep group, good group, and it's exciting and it's gonna
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: be very hard come cut down day when they have
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to make the decision for that position group not only
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: two ways one how many are you gonna keep? And
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: who are you gonna keep? They started the NFL season.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: It's just around the corner and we can't wait for
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: you to be back at the bank. The Jags host
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: the Dolphins next Saturday, August twenty sixth locking those seats
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  Speaker 2: now call nine O four six three three two thousand
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  Speaker 1: We'll wrap it up in a moment. This is Huddle
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Up This Auto group, Jack Leon.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Auto Final Moments, J P. Shadwick, Jeff Flogoman, John Osier
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  Speaker 2: on Huddle Up on this Wednesday afternoon from the team
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  Speaker 2: Hotel in Troy, Michigan. All right, so one practice down,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: one more tomorrow, no pads.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: And help me out here. I will you know me,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I'm a pro. I want to do a good job, Mark,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: But tell me how to watch this thing without pads?
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Uh, well you just watched okay, Well, well thank you.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Uh No, And I I get the feeling that you
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: were hopeful that the second practice against the Detroit Lines
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: will be in pads as well.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I don't ask for mind.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: You can come out and say it, John, It's okay.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I was hoping a little bit.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Well, are in the rules? Are is that you can
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: be in pads if you were I mean, if you're
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: in you can be in pads for two consecutive days
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and then take it dow off and then be back
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: in pads for two consecutive days again. Or you can
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: be in pads for three consecutive days then you have
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to take I think it's like two or three days off, right,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: So they could have been in pads, and uh I
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: get the impression that Dan Campbell probably would have liked
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: to have been in pads. But look, here's the thing.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I don't, okay, I don't. I believe in what Doug
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Peterson decides. The guys won a Super Bowl. I haven't,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: and he's been a highly successful coach. I trust his judgment,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and if that's what he believes is best for his
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: football team. Johnny, then we're gonna accept it, and we're
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: gonna like it. Accept it, accept it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: I think Doug is wrong enough person that he can
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: understand if I don't like it. But no, and again
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: this time of years, paramount, you had three guys injured
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: today in some capacity. Let's not have anymore.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I'm curious, you know how, after today's practice and what
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: happens tomorrow, does that affect any playing time in the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: game on Saturday. Do you expect some starters to go.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I don't expect many starters to jp. I said this
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: at our meeting last week when we were getting ready
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: for the Dallas game, and Johnny I said that I
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: would be surprised if anybody placed oar or wise against
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions, just because the whole reason that you
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: come to a place like Detroit to practice with the
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Detroit Lions is to have a controlled environment for your
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: starter so that you can have a lot of reps
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: with him in practice. And if we watch today's practice,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of first team reps. So now in the
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: game is a great opportunity to evaluate the guys that
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you got to decide are they going to be good
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: enough to make my football.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Team with one fewer preseason game. What you're talking about
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: comes into play even more.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean for me, controlled reps for my
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: start and less likely of getting them hurt because I'm
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: not probably not going to play them in a game,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: so I don't think they will a great opportunity to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: evaluate the guys that you need to look at, which
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: is your twos, threes and fours in a game environment
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: when the lights were bright come Saturday afternoon, and then
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the last preseason game against Miami at home. You've got
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: two weeks from that game until the start of the season.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: So I think that's a great opportunity to get your
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: start as some really really good reps. See what Doug
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Peterson decides. Moving ahead, the Jaguars and the Lions practice
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: tomorrow's same time in the morning. Jags am tomorrow right
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: from Alan Park to look forward to that, and that's
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: from the practice field. We'll be back here tomorrow four
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: o'clock with the Jaguars Happy Hour and then the Doug
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Peterson Show and the Jaguars Am was from the Grassy
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Knoll today. It was a grassy knoll.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: There right there, right where the car parked right out
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: of the tailgate.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, nice and nice setup. I was watching you
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: guys over there. It's pretty nice. I did a nice jet.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: By the way, the Detroit Lions have a nice facility.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: It ain't as nice as the is the mac.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Electric Center.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, the Miller Electric Center. Because I got a little
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: mini tour. You guys know, I kind of told the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: security guard. I said, hey, kai use the bathroom, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: he said, hey, let me all take you in and
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I'll show you. And so he tacked me in and
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: he said that, and I said, you're in here, you
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: mind if I get a little tour. And so I
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: got a tour. I mean I got to see all. Yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I got I got coffee. I got a cup of
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: coffee and everything. So I got to see the facility.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: They got a nice setup, but it's not as nice
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: as the Miller Electric Center. Logs thanks for jumping into heay,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, and uh, it'll be good to get
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Bucky back in here. He's a much prettier face. That's
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Jeff Loghman, that's John Oser. Thanks to our entire crew,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: britt Reebert David, the Candice, Joe Fortuneto, David Joe back Home,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and Patrick Cavanaugh cutting SOTS today for our entire crew.
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  Speaker 2: I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for watching Huddle Up.