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Gaslight, Gucci, Girlboss (feat. Hunter Harris) · Like a Virgin

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  Speaker 1: What did you just spare in your face James Trump
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  Speaker 1: supporter Mario Vanesca. Oh yeah, oh yeah, baby, Oh I
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  Speaker 1: feel refreshed. I didn't know Mario Vadesca was a Trump supporter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean anybody with a name like that. Mommy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm from a Long Island. How come we don't have
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  Speaker 1: a segregation anymore? Wow? Girl? The kind of the entire
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  Speaker 1: year has been leading up to this. Ever since we
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  Speaker 1: first got those set photos of Lady Gaga and Adam
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  Speaker 1: Driver in the snow. In the snow, we have been
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  Speaker 1: waiting to talk about father son House of Gucci, and
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  Speaker 1: today we are doing that with the perfect person to
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  Speaker 1: talk about, truly perfect a a a Gaga scholar, a
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  Speaker 1: movie critic, if you will, of which we are not. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Hunter Harris is here to talk about House of Gucci
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  Speaker 1: with us. Also, I will say that, yes, I know,
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  Speaker 1: this podcast is about us looking at yesterday's pop culture
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  Speaker 1: and giving it today's takes. But this podcast is also
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  Speaker 1: about popping your cherry about parts of pop culture that
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  Speaker 1: you have an experience yet, and none of the three
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  Speaker 1: of us, Fran Hunter I have seen House of Gucci,
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  Speaker 1: so we are experiencing it for the first time along
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  Speaker 1: with all of you. So today we are losing our
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  Speaker 1: virginity with Lady Gaga in her sex scene with Adam Driver. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just about the sex scene just forty five minutes. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about that sex scene. Rose, But before
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  Speaker 1: we get to that, we're going to you know, do
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  Speaker 1: some for play with the news of the week to
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  Speaker 1: talk about what's going on in pop culture. So, as
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  Speaker 1: I said, this is like a virgin I'm Rose, damn you,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm fran Toronto. Let's get into it. The big
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  Speaker 1: thing that I've been dealing with for for the past
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  Speaker 1: week is just a lot of online shopping. It's like
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  Speaker 1: become very toxic at this point. I honestly, I I
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  Speaker 1: thought I was so alone in what is a morbid,
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  Speaker 1: if not disgusting addiction to shopping. Um from myself. We
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  Speaker 1: are together, well, when we started to become friends years ago,
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  Speaker 1: it really it became quite clear very quickly that you
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  Speaker 1: are just as sick in the head as I am. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm a tourist rising and I do like
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  Speaker 1: to fill like the black pit of emptiness inside me
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  Speaker 1: with things. I will also say, I mean not to
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  Speaker 1: blow up our spot, but like, we worked in queer
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  Speaker 1: media for a very long time, which is to say,
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  Speaker 1: we were extremely underpaid for our jobs for an extremely
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  Speaker 1: long time and have only ever operated under scarcity mentality.
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  Speaker 1: So when you and I, for the first time in
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  Speaker 1: our lives, have just a little bit of expendable income,
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, any Instagram, I become the target
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  Speaker 1: demographic for literally any product. Oh my god, I'm so
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  Speaker 1: susceptible and like and like sometimes when I like send
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  Speaker 1: people things that I want to buy, what I want
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  Speaker 1: is for them to talk me out of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can't get wrong the wrong girl, because all you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do is say, oh, yeah, that's cute, Like why
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  Speaker 1: don't you get this too? Why didn't you get this
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  Speaker 1: more expensive version of I do? I do sometimes say like, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's ugly. No, it's the wrong color, the wrong patterns
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  Speaker 1: something I am ethical but fair. Um, But I do
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  Speaker 1: feel for the most part, if you text me some
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  Speaker 1: shopping link, I'm going to tell you to buy it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean. And Black Friday was like very dark this
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  Speaker 1: year because Black Friday was the day that Stephen Sondheim
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  Speaker 1: died and I was actually at the Mall in in
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  Speaker 1: Florida when I found out, like walking through Nordstrom looked
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  Speaker 1: down and gasped when I saw that Stephen Sondheim had
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  Speaker 1: passed away. I think it's important text for the virgins
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  Speaker 1: as well, that like, obviously we're always sad when like
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  Speaker 1: cultural beham moths like pass away. But Sondheim is specifically
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  Speaker 1: so one of your people. Oh, like so important to
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  Speaker 1: me as a like theater kid who grew up loving
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  Speaker 1: musical theater. Um, you know some of my favorite musicals
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  Speaker 1: are Stephen Sondheim musicals. Um, I guess, like as sad
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  Speaker 1: as I've been, it also has been very comforting just
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  Speaker 1: to see someone pass away, but to know like that
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  Speaker 1: they lived such a full life at the way that
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Sonheim did, in the way that he contributed to culture.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he is, I do think, without hyperbole, the greatest,
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  Speaker 1: most prolific queer artist of our lifetime, like we we don't.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing is like his style of like how
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  Speaker 1: he created his own work has influenced like an entire
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  Speaker 1: genre of musical theater, like an entire yeah, and an
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  Speaker 1: entire general like multiple generations of creators. He fundamentally changed
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  Speaker 1: the landscape of American musical theater. And you know, when
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  Speaker 1: we had the hot topic conversation and I couldn't think
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite Tim Burton movie, it actually really was
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  Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd and that was obviously in no small part too,
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  Speaker 1: like how gorgeous the music is. Yeah, I mean, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd is. I don't think it's a great movie,
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  Speaker 1: but I haven't rewatched so, but it's an incredible musical,
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  Speaker 1: incredible musical. I think I snuck actually took a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of my cousins and we snuck into the theater to
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  Speaker 1: go see that. And I think I told my parents
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  Speaker 1: we were seeing like National Treasure too or something like that. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I love Stephen Sondheim and I am sad that now.
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  Speaker 1: My my friend Ryan said like that he was sad
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  Speaker 1: that we'll never get to go to Steven Sonheim's Sex Dungeon,
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  Speaker 1: which was like rumored to be a thing. Really. Yeah,
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: there's been so much TV coming out recently, and I
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: was very excited that Gossip Girl came out. It is
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: tis the damn season for gossip Girl. Like it was
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: just Thanksgiving and one of the only things that I
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  Speaker 1: have to watch every year on Thanksgiving is the gossip
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  Speaker 1: Girl Thanksgiving episode Blair Waldorf must Pie and I have
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: never actually seen the o G Gossip Girl. I think
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  Speaker 1: I watched the first episode. Um, we obviously will be
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  Speaker 1: doing an episode of the podcast on the o G
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  Speaker 1: Gossip Girl. Well, my former roommate was in this batch
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: of episodes. Yeah, my my old roommate and friend, Cole
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  Speaker 1: doman Um was in the third of the recent drop
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  Speaker 1: of episodes. He plays the like demon twink that um
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: Aki goes on a date with my God, and he
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  Speaker 1: was perfect. This reboot specifically really does champion, if not
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  Speaker 1: encourage demon twink behavior, and that I think is maybe
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  Speaker 1: one of like the things that is like most disturbing
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  Speaker 1: to me about this rebote, even though I can't take
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  Speaker 1: my eyes off of it. What do you love about
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  Speaker 1: you know? It's it's gossip Girl, it's the drama, it's
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  Speaker 1: new the new Oh, the soundtrack and this this current
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: crop of episodes definitely have some good needle drops. There
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: was a tailor song writer, Bunny as a writer. There's
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: an Olivia Roderick. You're your favorite Trader love Trader Um.
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  Speaker 1: I do kind of need at some point for the
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  Speaker 1: minion of Julian of the Zion and Zion I need
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  Speaker 1: her to have like her own identity and storyline. These
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: characters need once and needs, they need desire. They they
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  Speaker 1: only exist in proximity to the other characters, and like
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: when one of them is a black girl and the
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  Speaker 1: other is trand and like to have them have like
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: no identity, like we don't nothing about them. I totally agree.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: It's very like Flatsam and Jetsam, pain and panic in hercules,
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: like the two Crowns, just like the Lackeys, which is
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: like which is part of the Gossip Girl legacy. Like
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: you know, Blair in the original had minions who I
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: think she literally called minions, and they did not really
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: have identities and like only existed to serve her. But
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  Speaker 1: I would hope that in Gossip Girl two point oh,
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: like flash off those characters a little. I want to
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: know more about their interior lives. I will say that
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: in the trailer for the next batch of episodes, Zion
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  Speaker 1: like was kissing someone, so maybe we'll see character okay. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I also have to say something that I very much
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  Speaker 1: so appreciated about this latest drop of episodes was a
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  Speaker 1: very necessary um cultural critique on uh Santa Con, which
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  Speaker 1: is the worst thing that New York City does in
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  Speaker 1: like the history of New York. It is a stain
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  Speaker 1: on the legacy of New York. I did appreciate that
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think there's another like TV show that
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  Speaker 1: has has dealt with Santa Con like that, and how
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  Speaker 1: horrible it is. Should we describe for people that don't
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  Speaker 1: know what Santa Con is, like what, like what is it?
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  Speaker 1: Santa don't we can actually know what it is. Santa
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  Speaker 1: Con is when the inhabitants of murray Hill and Williamsburg
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  Speaker 1: dress up in Santa Yeah, dress up in Santa alfits
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  Speaker 1: and do a bar crawl around New York City. If
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: they're not in murray Hill, they're fight eye guys. It's
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  Speaker 1: like very fight eye BROWI It's like cis culture, It's
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  Speaker 1: heterosexual culture. It's an excuse today drink outside wearing Santa costumes.
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  Speaker 1: And I have seen with my own eyes Santa's stripping
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  Speaker 1: on the streets. I've seen many Santa I've seen at
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: least to Santa's bar like on the street in like
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  Speaker 1: Lower Manhattan. I have seen some Santa's do disgusting things,
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  Speaker 1: and I cannot believe that it still exists as a
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  Speaker 1: cultural object. I definitely have before, like been on grinder
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  Speaker 1: ring Santa Con and had someone hit me up and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, say they were at Santa Con, And I've
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  Speaker 1: had to have that moment of checking in with myself saying,
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  Speaker 1: am I about to invite someone in a Santa costume
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  Speaker 1: over to my apartment and possibly engage in some kind
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  Speaker 1: of Santa role play? And I never have, And honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of sad that that's an experience I've missed.
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely would have. I absolutely would have, but I
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  Speaker 1: would have been it. Maybe one day I will. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: who who you know? One day? Who knows? What else
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: have you been watching? Recently? I watched UM the Janet doc.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: The so the New York Times did the Brittany doc
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  Speaker 1: that everyone was talking about this year that you know whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Very I thought it was like an okay documentary, but
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: maybe they were like the first to really consolidate all
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: of these things that had happened to Brittany and in
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: a place where everyone was going to watch it. Um,
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: but they did a new one with basically the same
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: conceit for Janet Jackson and what happened to her at
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  Speaker 1: the a Bowl and when Justine Chamberlake exposed her sexually
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  Speaker 1: assaulted her on stage basically, and then she was like
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  Speaker 1: beyond the height of her career, a legend, a like
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: completely a complete mononym as a pop star, and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden her career came to a screeching
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  Speaker 1: halt because of that moment. And you know, I thought
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: I was going to go into it being like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is just gonna make me mad all over again,
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  Speaker 1: but I actually felt it was pretty well reported and
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. And Jenna Weretham, who does still processing.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a friend of mine and she was in
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  Speaker 1: the documentary and she everything she said was so amazing. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And I also loved that they included women and their
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  Speaker 1: opinions in this documentary because the Brittany Dock like all
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  Speaker 1: they had was that evil lawyer and then those like
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: two bloggers that were kind of like, I guess, the
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  Speaker 1: comedic relief of the documentary, and so with this one,
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  Speaker 1: I felt like they may be honestly solved for that,
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  Speaker 1: and like the sources were overwhelmingly women, which I appreciated. However,
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  Speaker 1: I really wish that they had angled the story a
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  Speaker 1: little more on Janet, Like the way that the sources
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  Speaker 1: were arct was really more about the build up leading
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: up to the Super Bowl and how it was already
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: an extremely high stakes environment involving the culture wars of
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: that era and like religious fanatics basically really really trying
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: to crack down on what is on broadcast television. And
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  Speaker 1: and then you have Janet who is a woman who
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  Speaker 1: is sexually liberated, and like society doesn't know what to
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  Speaker 1: do with that, and so obviously there was it was
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  Speaker 1: an explosive moment, but all in all, I felt like
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  Speaker 1: satiated that it is a conversation we should continue to
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  Speaker 1: have about Janet and who she was and like what
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  Speaker 1: she still can contribute to what we're doing culturally. And
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  Speaker 1: I really hope that the gays listening to this are
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  Speaker 1: going to rally around Janet the way we're raillying around Brittany.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously not to conflate the two obviously completely different situations,
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  Speaker 1: but I would just hope that culturally we understand like
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  Speaker 1: what Janet has done and continues to do. UM, were
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  Speaker 1: you a virgin? A Janet stand? I I do like Janet.
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  Speaker 1: I really like UM. When I was in college, was
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: right when Discipline came out that which has feedback on
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: it amazing song. Um, did you see that Grimes has
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: made her return to social media. Yeah, it's it's it's
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: you know, on on the day that we're recording this
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: podcast really only in its seminole uh kind of phase,
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: but I feel like this is going to be a beat.
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  Speaker 1: We will continue to reports watch. Yeah, So what did
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: she say? Actually didn't Actually she came she came back
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  Speaker 1: to TikTok and was like talking about how she's traumatized
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  Speaker 1: from being so in the public spotlight and how she
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: now wants to start using her platform to have like
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: radically transparent conversations about like wealth distribution. Um, it's such
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: a hard and fast turn. Yeah, you know she used
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: the word traumatized. Yeah, she did. That sucks and like
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure it was traumatizing. Yeah. Yeah, you know,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: like we will truly never understand what it's like to
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  Speaker 1: be famous on that scale of Um. At the same time,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: you know, as like many people in the comments were saying,
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  Speaker 1: it's just very hard to have sympathy for her. So
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: you know, like we'll see if if she does anything
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  Speaker 1: more than like stage photos of her reading the Communist Manifesto.
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  Speaker 1: But I I you know, I remain a Grimes fan.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I do love her music, and I mean ultimately, like
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: this is all promo because she did announce that she
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: has a new song coming out. You are kidding, No,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: you're kidding me. Fuck, that's so hard. Well, I think
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: now the biggest thing on my mind is now that
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: we're past Thanksgiving, it is Christmas. I mean well, I
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: mean technically we're in the middle of Hanagah right now.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Hogsa maya to all my my Jewish girls out there.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: But we are fully in Christmas mode. I told you
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: about this. Yesterday. I was listening to a Christmas pop
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: playlist and the most curse Christmas song I've ever heard
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: came on. It's called Stretchy Pants by Carrie Underwood, and
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: it's about wanting to wear your stretchy pants during the
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: holidays so that you can eat as much as possible.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: And she does say in the song that she doesn't
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: want to wear those other bridges a queen of rhymes,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: What does she rhyme bridges with? I don't remember. I
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: hope it's bitches or witches. It's not bitches. It's like
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: you like expect the word to be bitches. And she says, Bridges,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: you sent me this song, and I think that Megan
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Trainer should send a cease and desist because it is
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: a Megan Trainer or you a trainer. They're not called
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: according to me, they aren't. So it was just Thanksgiving.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving famously all about family, and I spent my Thanksgiving
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: with my family, by which I mean with Lady Gaga,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: because Lady Gaga is my mother, sister, grandmother, wife, daughter, father, father, son.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: House of Gucci. Um. That is the voice of Hunter Harris,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: who we have in the studio today. Writer Um, creator
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: of amazing newsletter Hung Up that I read obsessively, honestly
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: several times. Letter that's like worth the subscription, honestly, Like
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: newsletters are like hard to you know, everyone has a newsletter.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Newly minted writer on Gossip Girl, Yes, and her historian
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: of Gaga's acting career. I mean, you've been on it
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: on the beach. I'm happy to have gotten on the
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  Speaker 1: ground level with the star was born and now listen,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I can watch a budding actor really take her thrown.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Have you seen the film like multiple times at this
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: point or have you only seen it once. I've only
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: seen how a Gucci once and that is because it's
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: very long and it just came out like four days ago.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see it in theaters or did you get
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: a screener? What was the situation? No, no no, no, I
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  Speaker 1: saw it in theaters. I saw it like I escaped
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  Speaker 1: my family on Thanksgiving Day and said, I am leaving
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: for an appointment, and I just went to see it
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: by myself. I had an appointment with the Lord, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: so it was me by myself at the Cinemark Tulsa.
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  Speaker 1: And I, okay, I'm actually so glad you asked, because
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: it was pretty incredible. Um so, Like I was the
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  Speaker 1: first one in the theater, but just embarrassing, sitting in
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  Speaker 1: the very back row on like the far right corner.
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  Speaker 1: And um, I like saw people like filing in. It
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  Speaker 1: was like a bunch of like like couples, like adults, um,
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  Speaker 1: and every husband was like talking to each other about
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: like the football game that was I guess on at
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the same time, and well, listen, they have their religion
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and I have mine. Um, And like these two husbands
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  Speaker 1: were like, man, I wish I was watching the game
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: as their guys, Like yeah, me too. And their wines
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  Speaker 1: are like like shushing them. Um and it's it's actually
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: a cinema theater, not like like not an AMC. So
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I did not get to see the Nicole Kidman like
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: heartbreak feels good in a place like this? Is that
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: what it is? Some of her best work? I listen.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I don't believe she. I think that Nicole Kidman wrote, directed,
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  Speaker 1: um Ran produced that entire like Cinna Mark or AMC
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know that that exists. What's your jet? It's her
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: like ideal setup. Do you like have snacks? Do you
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  Speaker 1: like have a do you need to have something that
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you need when you go to the like to see
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: a movie? Um, it depends. My favorite movie theater in
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: New York is the Battery Park Regal because it's in
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: between listen, it's in between a shake shack and a
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  Speaker 1: bagel place, and I would love to take my little
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  Speaker 1: snacks and they wouldn't ever care if I smuggle at
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: something in I loved the Battery Park Theater that was
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like I mean, it was always empty. There was kind
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: of a Whole Foods nearby, so I could grab a
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: sandwich and like walking and they never cared and never
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: cared r I P because I guess it's doesn't exist anymore.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Question mark. I'll say Father's Son House of Gucci to
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: our fallen soldier. So is that our new punctuation for everything?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Father's Son has a Gucci? Like? Does it apply to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: every situation? I say it out of context all the time,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: all the time. I went to Catholic school. It just
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: like rolls off the tongue. O. Really, So were you
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: having some throwbacks from There's not really a ton of Catholicism,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I guess in the movie, but there's like a it's implied,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: it's I mined because it's Italian Italian and they are
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: you are in a church at some point? Yeah, oh yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: for the wedding scene, yes, yes, And it doesn't that
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: fight outside of the church, Yes, it doesn't. Doesn't Mauricio
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: say that he wants Gucci to be like a church
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of fashion. Oh yes, the Vatican of fashion. Right, that's
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the moment, which, honestly I loved that line. That was
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: on my favorite lines in the movie especially. I think
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it contectualises really well, like how Gucci had entered her
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: flop era, Like generally, Yeah, it was like an interesting
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: point for like the film in general to come in
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: and like I'd be curious to know just like on
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a first impression or even we can start from the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: beginning of the movie, because I feel like I thoroughly
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: enjoyed the first thirty minutes of the movie and like
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: them falling in love and like all that stuff, and
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: then felt a different way. But like, what were you
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: feeling about it? It was just like there's so much
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: happening in Like Lady Gaga is so perfect at like
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: being this like flour being like in love. That's iff
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I thought I found very compelling and it's like so funny.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Like to contrast her against Adam Driver, who as an
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: actor bass was a character. It was like so much
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: more straight lay, so much more serious, and he did
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: not seem as playful even their meat cute at that party,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: She's like at home like this disco scene, and he's
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: like behind the bar for no reason, question mark. I mean,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but he was wearing that bad wig badly.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Um your thoughts on the wig, Okay, I think that
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the wig budget on House of Gucci was lower than
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the last tool because the last tool had better whigs.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I guess probably fewer of them too, but like Adam
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Driver's wigs were not very good in House with Gucci,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and I was kind of disappointed Gaga's wigs. I mean,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: they were gotgags. You know, whoever is doing the film
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: is not doing Gogga's wigs. House of Gaga is doing makeup, wigs, everything,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: which I think really speaks to Patriots yet in this
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: world right that she's like sort of um an interloper,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: a new person, like fish out of water, like she
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: should feel sort of out of top. And it was
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: funny to like kepting like a visual gag for the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: whole movie, that she's just more more dressed than everyone,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Like other people like just wearing clothes, but Gaga is
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: like wearing fashion and every single scene, and I that
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: was like sort of one of my favorite parts about
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: her performance in this What did you think, I mean,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: what were you prepared for it? Going into House of Gucci?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I heard, I was okay. I don't think I heard
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: anything like super Pro or super Con. I honestly I
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: would like it more, but I did feel like it,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: like the plotting of the movie, like the script itself,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: felt kind of bloated in a way that I thought
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: really like undercut its momentum, so a lot of times
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, here I go, like sitting through
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: like ten boardroom scenes like I really don't care about,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: like I just want to see I just want to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: see more of like Gaga and Salamahai talking about like
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: no more spells like we need like Mamahias showed up.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I cackled very it was amazing. I agree, Like I
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: think the first like weirdly very much like A Star
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: is Born, which I think is a great movie up
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: through shallow and then kind of falls apart. Um. I
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: think House of Gucci is really great up until kind
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: of like the sex scene, the wedding to exqueeze me. Oh,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the sex scene incredible. That was the moment where I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: was like, this is going to be the best movie ever.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: And then it But but it had been talked up
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: so much, like what was it? Um, they were on
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: some talk show and someone was saying, this is the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: best sex scene that's been in a film in years,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and it was that. It was really just like like
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that much about the sex scene. I
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: just like saw people talking about it, and I was like,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it's going to be like wild and not that's gonna
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: be good, It's gonna be crazy. And I could not,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: in my wildest dreams have imagined that it was going
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to be just like this, like so much grunting. I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: was like, gotta what with very girls. I will say
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: it was the most sex scene that I've ever witnessed,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and well yeah, well everyone, it was the most of
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: many things. It was the most sex scene. It was
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the most looks, it was the most acting. There was
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: so much acting happened to varying degrees of success. Yes,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: My like, my biggest takeaway from the entire movie, which
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I think you can see very clearly in that sex
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: scene too, is that it's like Adam Driver's in one
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: movie and Gaga was like just simply in three other
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: different movies and different. Jared Leto isn't Jared Letto is
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: on in a movie. He's like in a sketch room.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I think you should leave. That was like I was
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: actually surprised that I didn't really mind like the prosthetics
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: so much with him, but he just was so like
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: cartoonish and I was like, wait, nothing, this person is
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: saying can I take seriously or even feels like important
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: to any other story and all of his punch lines
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: were like it was like, it was very like it
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: was very totally off from what everything else that was happening.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I honestly felt like they could have fully cut Jared
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: leto and it would have been a tighter, better movie,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: right because nothing, nothing like regarding him actually held any weight.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Like all of the al Pacino stuff could have existed
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: without that character intact, and it would have been just
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: like as compelling of a of an arc there and
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: al Pacino was great, incredible listen father's son al Pacino, Um,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I will always read for my man. To me, like
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: there was this very fast transition between what was demure,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just an accountant, Gaga, I'm just like an innocent
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: girl who's kind of weirdly obsessed with this guy, maybe
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: for a money reason, to like, I have a mullet
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: now and I'm worrying, I have added shoulders and I
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: have a bullet, and I care a lot about these
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: counterfeit bags. And to me, it was like, I mean,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I don't say this as a critic, I say this
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: as as a faggot. This movie would have done really
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: well with a makeover montage. You know what I mean,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: or something that like showed Gaga's kind of like come
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: up in or her just like her moral center kind
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: of shifting. I think she could have used orange hair.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: She has to be a brunette when she has the accent.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I mean she said that herself in the contract. It did.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: It did make me think of how there was like
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a story circulating after a Star is Born where she
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: was talking about how when the movie ended she had
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: to shake off Ali and so then the night that
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: she wrapped, she bleached her hair blond again. And I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: was a girl, it's going to fall out to chill,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you know. But the thing is, like a Gaga, It's
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: in her contract. She has to be Burnett. She has
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: to have a gay best friend in every movie. She
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: had a gay best friend in this movie for half
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: a scene. Did you notice that, Oh, the guy that
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: she went to the park just go with ye yeah
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: yeah like um. And she also has to, I would
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: wager always have a scene with a bathtub, and she
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: had to in this movie. Her bathtubs three she had three, right,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: We're right, the one at the very end, yes, resonant
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: bathtub scene. I will say this. I was so like,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I don't ever going to catch on fire,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Like there were so many candles around. I was like,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: this is like maybe too many, and then I was
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: like no that definitely they were added in posts like
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: no candles like choked that well on camera. Um, it
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: does seem like the kind of movie though, where if
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: he had accidentally caught on fire, they would have kept it. Oh,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: for sure there was something. Yeah, you feel like there
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: were some moments where that they kept, like when Gaga's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: hat fell off, for like, there were other little moment
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of improvisation. Father son House of
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Gucci famously improvised. I guess you know she did go
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to the Bradley Cooper school of acting, where things aren't written,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: they are felt in the moment. I will say, speaking
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: of m Bradley Cooper, I kept imagining him watching this
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: movie a little makeup wipe in his pocket, just like
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: just just go to the screen and just like wipe
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: off the makeup. It sounds like like the lipstick. I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: was like, he's having a fit right now watching he was.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: He was watching it thinking, you're so fucking also improvised
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that famously. Yeah, that movie A Star was Born had
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: no script. It had it had like vibes and grunts
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: and like tequila. Didn't they do that for Yes? Yes?
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: And Bronzer. Wasn't that what they did for um Blue
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Valentine sorry to invoke her name. Remember that Ryan Gossling
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Michelle Williams movie. Remember that was almost rated NC seventeen
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: because of the sex scene. Yes, I remember it. I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: almost get kicked out of that movie. That was like
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the word because I was seeing it and I think
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it was like umift and so I had like, you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: it's like whatever, I take it fort her movie and
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: then like running that one, and I think that like
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the theater had like known that, like teens were sneaking
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: in this is like you know, also peak rng Gossling.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: That was like such a formative movie for me being
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: on Tumblr. Don't think method act in that that didn't
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the director be like Okay, go into this room and
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: have a fight or something like that, or yeah, I
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: think so, But I don't know the thing about the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: House of Gucci. It's like the improv in this movie
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: is just like at a different like vibration than because
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: it's just like Gaga as an actress, as Patrizia as
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: someone who like has his hair like it was just
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: because she is, she is the final word on who
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: this woman is, even though this woman is a real person.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: When she said no one was going to tell me
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: who patreats Gucci is not even Gucci, I said amen,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and I said and I said, didn't thank you? And
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I said, thank you. It's just like it's so it's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: actually funny because before I came here, I was like,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: you know, prepping, and I was rereading, um all of
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the stuff that actual Gucci family had said when they
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: were shooting it, and like you know, there was like
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: paparazzi photos of like how everyone looked and the fact
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that the Guccies, who own none of the company, we're
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: going so hard, Like Alpaccino is ugly in this movie,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and my great great uncle was not ugly. He wasn't
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a handsome Italian man. I was like, first of all,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: how dare you? And second of all, what bullying? Cyber
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: bullying Alpacrino. It's like, oh my gosh. And there's like
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: they're saying that like Jared Leto, I mean, I don't
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: like to acknowledge Jared Little's presence in this movie, but
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that he looked so ugly and that it was like
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: an embarrassment to their family. I was like, okay, kind
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: of go in. Also, I'm sorry your family is embarrassing,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: like objectively like girl, like this is all embarrassing. That's
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: they made a movie about it. Someone who works with
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Gucci told me that Patricia actually never wore Gucci. She
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: was always in St. Laurent. So the Gucci family I'm
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: sure took a fue with that too. There were a
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: lot of choices they had made in this film, but
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I wish that they had made more choices about focusing
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: on what Gaga was doing, because she was the best part.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: She was like the shining star of the movie. I
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: know she should have been lit actually in every shot,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and like my favorite part of it were her reactions.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: There's one scene that's really stuck with me, and it's
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: when she's leaving their ski chalet and he's looking at
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the window and she's getting in the car and I'm
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: going to turn. She looks back up in the window
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and it's just the camera on her face looking at
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: him for like too long. Mascara stayed in her ches truly,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: like does like Gaga's faces and this are so funny
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: because she she had like the big expressive eyes and
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: there was like looking at you the eyes truly It's
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: like if looks could kill, I remember would have been
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: dead at like truly twenty minutes and like that was, um,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: you know, she is like very she does have a
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: very expressive face. Like I think the movie made good
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: use of that. In terms of like Gaga performances and
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: scenes that stuck out to me. The first one that
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I think of is, um, well, okay, important contexts actually
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to talk about our movie viewing experiences. Um, I saw this.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: There was like an early release on Tuesday before Thanksgiving
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: in West Hollywood, and so I went basically, what is
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: opening night in West Hollywood? And sigh, but I did,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: And of course I go into this movie and it's
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: like just all like just it packed with like the
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: kind of whitest like gayest men you've ever seen in
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: your life. And so when Nicole Kidman like sat down
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: like to do like her thing in my AMC stuff
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: rewards like the theater whatever she goes in and one
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: of one of the girls is like yes, Nicole, like
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: like fully, heckly, what's happened? So this was like the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: ambiance that I'm in, we were people wearing Gucci. That's
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: an important question. I didn't see any Gucci. The look
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood is like I just left the gym, like
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I'm in Lulu Lemon, Like I that disrespectful. It is disrespectful.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Are you wearing Gucci when Gucci? Girl? No, I was
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: wearing this vintage sweatshirt. I wore Gucci for this record.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: But it's the but you know, it's just a little
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: not Anyways, there's a scene where Gaga and Adam Rever
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and her kids are sharing like a Christmas together and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: their mayor just kind of falling apart, and they're exchanging
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: gifts and the second Gaga opens the package and she
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: pulls out this thing and she says a Bloomingdale gift card.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: The entire theater just like a chorus of like gay gas.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: He might as well have slapped her in the face.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: In the face, honestly, he should wake up and apologize.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: It was one of the most emotionally devastating things I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: had ever seen, And it's because of how God got
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: carried that moment, but also because I was in a
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: crowd of people that felt the exact same thing. I did.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I honestly would love a Bloomingdale's gift card as a gift.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Is House of Gucci a Christmas movie? Now? Canonically? Absolutely?
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Are we like putting it in the same category as
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the Holiday? And Dr seusays, how the Bridge still Christmas?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I will yeah, I'll call it a Christmas movie? Will
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: you be watching it again? Do you have a desire? Yes?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Because and this is how I feel about the movie.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, for how much of it, I really just
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: kind of like sat through the parts that hit hit
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: so like precisely and pristinely, like the Bloomingdale scene, um,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: other scenes like the scene um like I mean like
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the sex scene, like the bathtub scene. I mean this
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: is like random, but I was obsessed with the Anna
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Wintour Andre Leon Tally scene. It is it is like
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: actually pure comedy, like like all the tom Ford stuff too,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: was just so like crazy. I was like, what am
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I witnessing right now? Other than like actually like an
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: SNL sketch. Um, well that's what the trailer felt like.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I for like the whole lead up to this movie,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: did not think it was a real movie. I thought
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: it was annel digital short based on the trailer. UM
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: and I can't believe it actually exists. No. Watching it,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot believe it, Like this is
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the accent that we're really getting for an entire movie,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: every fire movie, and everyone talks about Gaga's accent, and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: really it was Adam whose accent was bad, every every accent, everyone,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: all of us in this room. Could anyone else have
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: played this role? I really don't think so. M M
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: a canonically Italian woman? What act what canonically Italian actress? Well,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I mean this script had gone around for what like
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: ten years or something like a lot of a lot
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: of actress. Yes, a lot of actresses came in and
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: actually should I look it up? So Angelina Jolie and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio were rumored to play Patricia and Maurizio. That's crazy.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: It was going to be missed for and Mrs Smith
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: as a period in piece. What would that have been
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: a better movie? I think that movie would have been
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: so much more about like like the actual palace intrigue
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: of like Who's gonna take a ver Gucci? Like much more.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: This is like not to make this comparison like a succession.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: He kind of look at like a volley for Power,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And I actually liked that, Like the Gaga version of
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: this movie was not so much about the belt about
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the volley for power that it was more about like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: you know, this woman really coming in and shaking up
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: this family. Um, And I think that like that was
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I think you kind of saw at least I felt
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: like I saw like like the remnants of like a
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: different kind of movie in this one where it's like,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, here we go, like talking about business again,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: math again. Although I will say that, um, oh my gosh,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: who's um Jack Huston. I really liked him in this
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: as just um, like the advisor, like the second in
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: command to who eventually became the CEO. Yes, I mean Trader.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: He related girl Boss his way. This this movie was
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: guy's like GATECPE girl Boss from different. I didn't think
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like um for Treaty was like a girl boss ahead
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: of her time, like to as O N Like where
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: did you notice that? Like what what moments are you
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: clocking the girl bossiness? Well in the first scene when
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: she is like they shouldn't be like selling fakes and
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: then another scene when she s our name um, And
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: there's one other scene when she is like when she's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: fussing with Adam Driver, like in the Um when he
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: when he tells her like I don't want you involved,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: like I don't want you giving me advice anymore, Like
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: she is like mine, I'm running the company, You're not
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: like the CEO of this business. And she was like
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: kind of despondent. I mean that I did feel like
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: she actually want to just be a businesswoman and also
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: just like kick him out specifically because she was so upset.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: It is like a very like weird cautionary tale about
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: how about like um inspiring a man too much, you know,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: like me, she did, and she gave him a taste
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: of power and then he realized he he liked it
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: after refuting it for so long and like wrestling with
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: those car mechanics or whatever. Yeah, and I do see
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: what you mean. Like if the movie had been maybe
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: more focused on Adam on Adam Driver, um, like it
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: would have been maybe a little bit more about that,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: because you see like the glimmerings of that about how
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: you know, like around the Anna Wintour scene when he's
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: like buying all this ship and you know, really like
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: taking control of Gucci, Like there's kind of a different
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: movie than the one that Gaga's in. Um, And I
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: think like the disconnect is that those two are like
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: almost two at odds. Yeah, even like the tom Ford
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: stuff where you're seeing like this classic brand be revit
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: like you're seeing Adam Driver's plan for a couch like working.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: That's it was interesting, but it kind of did feel
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: get detracted from, just like the drama of like this
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: crazy marriage in which like they are like trying to
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: fight over was ultimately his job, Like I didn't need
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the stuff with the loafer, you know, the lower with
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the gold leaf in the toe, and like as as
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: as as as emotional as al Pacino crying was, that
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: was really good. When he covered his face, I thought
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: immediately also also like trag, when is that going to
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: find its way onto your Twitter or into your news letter?
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I mean as soon as possible. Honestly, here we go.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I buy such a moment. Yeah, it really was. It's
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: very like and you're kind of a Pacino scholar. I listen,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: he said, I pretend I do not see it, Like
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: whatever is happening in this room, I don't want to
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: be a part of it. Um, I would be pissed
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: if Adam Driver came in with that wig and was
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: like trying to get me out of my own that
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: we also, like I don't believe. I guess, I mean,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: this is probably it probably really happened, but it seemed
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: weird to me that at that point when Adam Driver
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: was like buying you know, like Lamborghinis and stuff, why
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: was he riding a bike? Well, I said, because like
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: it wasn't that long of a journey. But I do Italian,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I do want to go back to the scene in
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the boardroom because that was my favorite scenes. Crazily, even
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: though I did not like all the business stuff. Um,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: when Adam Driver just like has been in the next
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: room the whole time, like his family is like being
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: ripped apart, like drag within an edge of their life,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: and he just like pops his head in like Trio
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the whole time. It was very hey, guys, it's very
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: um Alyssa Edwards behind the two way mirror and drag
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: right all stars to um. I feel like, yeah that
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I like cowardice. Cowardice. Yeah, those were the moments where
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I was like I was like, give me the give
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: me the like the mumble car, give me, like say,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: give me something from your character as like kind of
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: a I guess a weasel like that was the thing
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to me, is like from Adam Driver specifically. I didn't
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: really know how I was supposed to feel about his
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: character at at many different moments, And at the beginning
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is a like I thought
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: they were trying to do the Gaga is the smart
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: business one and she is an accountant at you know,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: with her the movie company, and like that's why she's
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: so good at this and all the different stuff, and
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: he like is this privileged kid who has no idea
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: what he's doing. And then they kind of discarded that immediately.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I think, honestly, there were a lot of the things
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: that I didn't like about the movie. I was like,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I wondered if it was because they were trying too
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: hard to stick to the true story, which wouldn't make
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: sense because they threw away so much of ther they
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: did not they could more artistically, and they like wedge
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: him in probably because of like his Gucci ambassadorship. I
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: feel like, right, yeah, and he was just in an
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: entirely different movie than the rest of them. He was
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: in that Marvel movie that he's going to be in
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: where he's the vampire superhero. I know you don't like
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: to technology as presence, but what were the things about
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: like his performance that you did not like? Um, I
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: don't know. I thought it like just so cartoonish and
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: clownish when it's like Gaga and also Adam Driver and
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: also Alpaco and everyone else, like no one was like silly.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Like he was just so silly that I was like,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: it's actually hard to like square, Like that was like
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the most totally incoherent part of the movie, but like
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: he injected into his veins, like it was just so like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: oh now we have like forty five minutes of like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: fucking comic relief that no one really needs. Sort of
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: like the actual material itself was like funny and strange
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and odd enough. I don't need like these like kind
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: of silly punchlines every like to end every scene to
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: drive home that like this is ultimately all kind of
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: like fashion and silly and funny and all that. It
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: just felt like really like nailing, like banging me over
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the head with like this intense sort of like not
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: symbolism but just like metaphor. I don't know, I just
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: was onto that that part of it for me was
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: like it when it became a movie that was trying
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: to be a film. And I do think those are
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: like two very different things. Um, when Jared Letts like
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: character has like basically no function other than comedic relief,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like I love that you
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: said like no one was silly except for him, because
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I totally agree because Gaga brought camp, sure, but like
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: that doesn't make it silly. She's very intentional, she was
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: very grounded in her in her insanity, and he was
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: just like on a whole other like, I mean, okay,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: the Anna Wintour was also very silly, yes, but that
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: was like a flash of just like you know, true comedy. Um,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: but that's not goofy though, That's like not goofy in
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the same way. And I found everything and it was
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I think I'm not been thinking about it more. It's
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: like those that are just hit the same one note
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: of goofy nous in a way that I just was
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: like kind of off put by, if that makes any sense.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: And it's like he was always like just cartoonishly pagerck
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: that I was like, you know, I've had enough of it.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I've had my fill of this actually, um, and would
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: love to just move on to I like the Ski
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Shelley stuff. Oh excuse me, moment of silence for Gaga saying, oh,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: you can escort her out. She kicked that woman, She
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: evicted her, her and her prosthetic nose. She said, cut
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: the camera's dead as was that a prosthetic? Yeah, because
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: that that that actress, that was not that's not what
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: she looks like. Okay, it was a bull choice, yeah,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: giving giving her the hug and then get her out
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: of here. I will say like that was a moment
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: of betrayal that I haven't seen since like The Godfather.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: It was like she kissed her and said get the
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: funk out, not even to her face, which is like,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: somehow the worst rudest part of it, that you tell
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: someone else to make me leave. Just tell me yourself,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: like I'm right here, and just say it to me.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: And she did just kind of accept it. She knew
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: though she knew her time was up. Her entrance into
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the film. I mean, I'm with a little jarring. Yeah, okay,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: thank you. I thought maybe it was a me thing
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: because I'm really bad at retaining crucial information and films. Um,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: but I when she like skied down and they started talking,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, who is who is this supposed to be?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, why is she important? Why? Why is
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: so much building up to like Adam Driver and her
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: cheating or what like. I just didn't see that coming,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I guess. And there were moments like that where I
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: was like, why are why is the screenwriter like really
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: just you know, betting that you're gonna know the original
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: story and moments like that, but then over explain like,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: you know, things like Gaga forging the signature or whatever, right,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: because that's what I found out, like seeing this movie
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: with my mom and then talking about it at Thanksgiving's, Like,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: people who were culturally aware during the time that this
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: happened don't really remember it. I was going to ask
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: both of you how much if you how much you
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: knew going into it and of the murder of the story,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: like if you had, like I don't know redit primers
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: and you know nothing. The only thing I knew was
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: that Patricia now like walks the streets of Milan with
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: a parrot on her shoulder. That was literally, yeah that's
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: what she does. Yeah, she's she's been released from prison
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: and she lives in Italy and is like known for
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: walking around with a parrot on her shoulder. There are
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: many photos I'm not Angucci in same around probably that is.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and she gets like a crazy amount of alimony.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Oh I did read that just today. Yes, it's like
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: like almost two million dollars I think a year, and
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: also like back paid from whenever she was in prison, right,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and she didn't receive those payments. Um, that's a lot
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: of parents. And I will say, we love divorce. Thank
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: God for not airtight prenup um. I also went into
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: a cold did you watch stuff? Did you? Because also
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: like I really had no idea about this before this
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: movie was announced, and I kind of wanted to go
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: in that way just because you know, whatever Gaga says
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: happened is what I believe happened is rewriting history. She's
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: writing history for the first time. Is yeah. I thought
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: to me, like moments like the bathtube scene or actually,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: honestly another reason why Jared Letto was never needed. It's
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: like the natural comedy of like their meat cutes and
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like that them getting to know each other and like
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: the little I mean they loved like a sharp cut
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: after like a jokey moment, like a lot of that
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: happening in the first three minutes. That to me was
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: like I would have watched that. I would have watched
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: two hours and thirty eight minutes of that, you know
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: what I mean, maybe not as you know, profound, as
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: like a financial thriller or whatever. And that was the movie.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: And I also wanted more towards the end of her,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: like post murder, because it felt very weird that it
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: was like he gets killed, she's in the bath having
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: that like kind of like sorrowful yet almost like orgasmic moment,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and then it's like two years later and she's in court,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Like I want to see more of that, Like that
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: was the interesting part to me. Um, So it was
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: kind of like upsetting that we didn't get more of it. Yeah,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I in a similar vein. I think I wanted to
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: see more of her dealing with a fallout from him
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: not being married to her anymore. Like I think we
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: only got maybe a couple of beats of her just
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: like being enraged that they weren't longer together because she did.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I think Goda came to this conclusion, and I think
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: you kind of get it from the movie too, that
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: like she did actually love him, like she loved him,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: but she's also jealous of him, but she also presented
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: him and she also you know, thought that he was
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: like an idiot and like mismanaged the business all these things.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: But I would have really loved to see a couple
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: more scenes of her, like being a single mom, like
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: being just pissed about. It escalates so quickly, like all
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's leaving him these wild voicemails and
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: casting spells against him, and then the where the stakes,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: where of those stakes come from? And then she's like
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: getting divorce papers. She's like getting divorce papers at a
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: soccer game, it looks like. And then it's like leaving
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: all these angry voicemails. And I was like, hmm, interesting
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: heightening there. But I did read just today that Um,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: in real life, Rittie went off to a business like
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: at a business trip and then just like didn't ever
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: come back. I was like, now that is t actually
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: break up the marriage, but that is how I will
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: end one day, maybe my second marriage. Okay, wait, speaking
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: of divorce, though, what song off of thirty was she
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: listening to? Oh my god, what's her song? Um? If
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: it's not I drink wine, it could have been to
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: be loved. Maybe maybe it was one of the angrier
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: songs and what do what song do you think it is?
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I would say, can I get it? Can I get it?
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: She said? Can I get it? A little bit of
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: murder and I get it? Maybe women like me she
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: wired those Oh okay, interesting bull She wired three euros
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: to that hit man and she put drop the needle on.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Can I get She brought it in double bag do.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: That scene was one of the highlights of the movie
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: to me, And like, I think her face in that
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: scene is like so memorable of her sitting at the table. Yes,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that scene could have been its own movie. Actually, like
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: just like the little ways, like the little just like
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: um misunderstandings between these assassins and these two women who
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: were like I'm actually trying to pay you and you're
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: like not letting me and Sma hyak with the like
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: hot topic red hair, oh yes, and she's like, this
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: is not the number that we agreed upon. Actually, you
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: cannot up charge me right now. Selma was incredible, under
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: underutilized completely. That's why I was like, if we took
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: movies now Colonels and House of Gucci where I wanted
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: more Salma Hunter you disagree, Listen, you put some in
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: a mud bath and that is money well spent. That
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: was incredible. That was so luxurious. That was like finally
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit of like actually true weirdo luxury in
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: this movie. And they're talking about spells and also like
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: this was like I wanted to see one of the
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: spells though I could have. I could on for a spell.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe that was one of the cut scenes. I could one.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: But it's also funny that it's like the guc Is
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: are like very Catholic and like they're very Italian, and
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: yet she said, you know toiled toiled boiler. Yeah, I
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: feel like when I feel like, I mean, oh, I
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: forgot to I forgot to say um. After Angelina Jolie
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: didn't work out for Patrizia, they then reached out to
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Penelope Cruz and then they talked to Margo Robbie. What
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: they are is a version of this movie where Margot
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Robbie plays are you a Robbin Easta? I mmmm? Not
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: over Goda, No, no I am. But that would have
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: been such a different movie, Like I think it would
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: have been almost sadder in a way. I mean, at
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: the top of my mind right now is Margot Robbie
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: and Titania, which I find like a very tragic performance.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: And and I don't know that I really want Patriotia
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: to be like sad in this, Like I kind of
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: like that Gaga leaned so much into the rage of
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: this woman who again grew up as too close to
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: the sun. Absolutely, because you have to understand why she
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: is led to having him literally murdered, right she said, Actually,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: it's not enough that you like if you are not
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: with me, you know, with an Nie one, and you
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: can tell that this is a bad romance. You can
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: know that, you know, Gaga did at least google Patrizia,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: because if you google image searcher, every single photo is
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: like you which eyes filled with rage. She just looks
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: rageful in every single image. You know. It was another
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: scene that this was like a very jarring moment for me.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: The scene where they go on the boat and she
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: folds her coat up to put it on the floor.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: It was like two, I guess, like give him head.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: It was so weird but beautiful, Okay, I was gonna
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: say it was giving me like so um Bridget Jones Diary.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: You know the one scene when like, um, Hugh Grant
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: like tips over in the don't really mind me at that,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: But then I also kind of feel like at least
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: got has like a stalking fetish, like a little bit
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: of a foot fetish. M vibe. Well, I think I
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: think it's like fun and funny. Um. There was this
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: one intervieweated with Kyle Buchanan for Vulture like four years ago,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I think about All the Money in the World where
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: he says like he instructed Michelle Williams in one scene
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: to like flirt with I guess it was what Mark
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Wahlberg in that movie to like walk. The line is like, oh,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: walk across the room and like stocking feet. I thought
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: that was so funny and like like goofy um. But
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: there's another scene in the Last Duel where like someone
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: like a characters like wearing like like a woman's wearing stockings,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: and it's like is it flirtesias or is it like
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: kind of like you know whatever. Um, But that scene
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: was like reminding me of that. It's like such a
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: weird the emphasis like so on her legs, on her lap,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: on her like pantyhose and I was like, I guess
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: really's got just like really thinks this is like I
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: don't know how women like flirt like with their little
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: bare feet, but like not really, I don't know. I
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: actually liked this scene. But the moment where she drops
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the tickets to New York in the car gives him
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: road ahead, that was like so like that was that
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: was like I was like, oh my god, what is
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: going on. I had just watched that episode of Curb
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: like all about this, and I was like cracking up. Um.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Speaking of like comparisons, we also know that you are
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: a moonstruck scholar, of which we are also or just
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: a moonstruck fisionado. Yes, I will accept that time. I
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: did see quite a few moonstruck um parallels in this movie,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: starting with both of them. I mean their first scenes
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: are them at a typewriter being a bookkeeper or whatever,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: and then also being called by like a construction workers
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: like a very like that both happened. They both happened
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: in Moonstruck. But like in terms of like these movies
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: as a side by side, like I do feel like
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Gaga is like in a lineage of people like Share
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: that are doing the pop star to like prestige actress Pipeline. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I would agree. And I also think that like you know,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: the thing, I think the thing that's in common between them,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: like not only that the transition from like like singing
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: to acting, but it is that like Gaga's taste for
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: an actor like pretty eccentric, I feel like like she's
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: not doing the Well's an example of this, Like it's
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: not like she's not playing a version of herself really
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Like I think the allied character in The Star Is
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Born is like pretty unlike got Gone a lot of ways,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: like as a pop star. I mean, I'm not a
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: little monster, so correct me if I'm wrong, But they
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: don't make the same type of music. Um, And I
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: think in this it is like a role that doesn't
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: like doesn't rest in her like actual like singing, Like
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: she doesn't sing in this movie. It's not like it's
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: something she's like not resting in her Laurels is what
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And shares like the exact same way as
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: an actress who like really um, who wants to act
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: like doesn't want to just play a version of share
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: in a movie. How do you think this stacks up
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: to Camilla, Cabo and Cinderella do not do not invoke.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos got what he paid for and that's all
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: that means. Crazy. I didn't I didn't watch how how
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: far did you make it through? Oh? I watched the
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: whole thing. You watched the I watched the whole thing. Yes, me,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: and like four moms in Florida, yes, Florida and Sean
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Mendez not even Actually do you think Sean Mendez saw
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: House of Gucci? I can't say. Has he listened to
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: thirty like post first breakup? For sure? It came justin,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: wasn't it. I feel like I read on or something
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: like he initiated the breakup. I think if you initiated
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the breakup, you don't need to listen to thirty. Sometimes
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Camilla listened to thirty? Or does Camilla only listened to
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: her own music? I think music sometimes when you were
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: the breaker up or it can be really hard. But
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was hard for Yeah, I don't
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: think that was. Like they're still friends unlike Marizo and Patrizia.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: But maybe oh my god, well one of them is dead.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe Camilla will have Sean killed no stop it? Who
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: like selmahiak in this, In this like maybe who's the
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: magical Grifter in Billy Parter, I will say, okay, one
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: to speak one good thing about Jeff Bezos Cinderella. Billy
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Porter's line reading of you want to go to that
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: ball one of my favorite things this year, I'll say
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: it he was I would have I'm sure I would
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: enjoy his parts of the movie. I feel that one scene.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Oh and um, Mini Driver was in that movie, MANI Driver.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Mini Driver always comes to serve. She in Phantom of
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: the Opera, which is, I mean, my favorite musical and
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: a terrible movie that I love watching. She is the
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: only person who understands what movies she's in, much like
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Lady Gaga in House of Gucci. Oh that is like evolved.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I love what you said about how Share in habits
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: a character because something that between watching Gaga and Gucci
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: and Sharon Moonstruck is like it you can never not
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: see Share, you can never not see Gaga, like your
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: brain is like that's gott like you know, but it
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: still is a fully realized character that is distinctly not
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Gaga and distinctly not Share. And sometimes a star power
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: is what makes some of the movie that to me
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: is the big difference between this and A Star is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Born because okay, yes, the Star is Born as a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: little monster. I can say like Ali is very different
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: from Gaga because like Ali kind of in a way
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: falls into this career where Gaga like the thing that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: has I mean the thing that has made her like
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: she wants it so badly and she performs so much.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: And Ali was like not a performer in the same
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: way in her personal life, whereas like Patricia like performed
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: being a Gucci Yeah. But um, in A Star is Born,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: you never forget that it's Lady Gaga. Um. And she
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't disappear into the role the way that I think
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: she does to to like some effect in House of Gucci.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Like I do believe she's playing a fully realized character,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: maybe not a real person, um, but I don't. I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: don't feel like it's just Lady Gaga and awake. No,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: absolutely not. But I do think that like this meta
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: text of like I'm watching Lady Gaga like run around
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Italy and like tell all these men what they are
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: doing wrong. It's like kind of incredible fun the movie
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: really but fun that it's not like the goofys of
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Ajar Letto stuff exactly exactly. I also have to say
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: it feels like maybe missed opportunity for Gaga's dad to
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: not have some like ad placements for Joanne's treacheria. I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: feel like that have eaten there. No, I wait, what
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: was your experience? It's disgusting. It's some of the worst
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Italian food I've ever The meatballs are definitely like rats.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Was it huge portions? It feels like a huge portions. No,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: not really and very overpriced. Um, where were there a
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: bunch of like like faggots there? Yeah, my friend Ryan
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: was there. Oh, I mean like other other patrons. I'm
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: sure all the waiters was like, you know, all the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: waiters were coming off of their like fourth audition of
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: the day. Did come out of the kitchen as Patrizio,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Mommy have a meatball for you? Wait this rose? Did
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: you really go to Allive Garden after you saw I did?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I went direct? Oh yeah I did. Um. It was
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: like it was like nine thirty pm in Boca Raton, Florida,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: and Olive Garden was closing at ten and I called
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: to them as we were leaving the theater to see
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: if they would still see us, and they did. That
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: is powerful. What did you have? I had chicken parmesan, yes,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: salad and breadsticks obviously, and it was Bellicia. It hits
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: so so well and it felt like, um, the same
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the same level of like authenticness as the movie. Yes, yes,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: like the House of Gucci is the Olive Garden of films,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: and that is powerful. Have you been a Halive Garden?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're like, have I been to Olive Garden?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Why do you think she asked me about it? How
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I've been to Olive Garden? They live there. Do listen
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: you were born there. I will be a hit on me.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to go to All Garden for New Year's Eve, Like,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: oh my god, that's invite me. It costs like four
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: but unlimited everything all night went out, not nothing, truly.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: It's like embarrassing. I have checked the website once a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: month in the past six months, like every once month.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: I get on and I'm like, can I get tickets yet? Nope?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Okay It's either that or like usher in Vegas, and
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I can do that. It's going to
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: be I was also considering a Vegas moment for for
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: New Year's but I was going to go to Katie Perry,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Katy cat to Katt we are Katie Ketty,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: I love this about about you. Could Katie have done
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: what Gaga did and Husse of Gucci? I know the answer. Okay,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say no because Okay, although she is
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: she does act in the Thinking of You video, Sure, yes,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: if you want to call that acting, yes, I will
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: say this. I think that like Gaga is an actor,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: like she knows how to perform and she improves and
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: it works, and it's like something like Father's House with Couti.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh my gosh, like that's so perfect for
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: this character, of this moment, all of the stuff. Yes.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Katy Perry, however, is like just out of her mind,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: like I don't. She doesn't. She didn't interview with the
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal like last week where she was like
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: I watched Succession to get business advice and it's like,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: oh right, okay. Katy Perry is just like crazy, like
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: she's cookie. I love her, and she wouldn't. She would
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: take a script and just be like these are like guidelines,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: like I don't actually need to do this and like that,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: and we're just like a completely incoherent film like it
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: would have been just she cannot like play a character,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: I think, except for Katy Perry, and that is the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: only character you should play. What's your favorite Katie Perry song? Um? Okay,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: this is a deep cut Um there's a chain to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: the rhythm remix with Yadi, But like I've listened to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: a lot lately, it's it's like, honestly a very good song.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: It's a great song. But I think Witness would have
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: been so much better if like Deja Vu Roulette had
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: been the lead single. Oh yes, I just wish the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: album had actually been more like changed the rhythm. It's
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: a very good album and people sleep on it. I
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: need to give it a close listen. But Katy Perry
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: has big flop energy. Unfortunately. I say this as a
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Katie Cat. I want better for her, you know. I
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: mean it's like her lat like the pre Daisy, she
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: released like four singles, all different artwork, all promotion. Never
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: really Over is one of the best songs she's ever made.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: It's just like she doesn't give a fuck, Like that's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: my really Katy Perry is that she has oh that
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: l A Times interview from I think two years ago.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: She says, essentially, do I need a number like another
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: number one album? I've rung that bell, honey, and it's
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: like the has like the most number one singles of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: any albums. To Michael Jackson, yes, but the implication that
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Katy Perry has can make number one but now wants
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: to choose to flop is brave, powerful, radical love. It
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: can't get enough. Thank you so much. The girl flopping,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: but you girls so hard you just like start actively
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: flopping and loving it. I love it. Oh, I love
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: that Katie Perry has entered this space. We should maybe
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: do a Katie episode at something. What is your go
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: to order at all of Garden? The chicken parmesan, the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: chicken part I will call chicken parmesan. Love that you're
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: considering all of Garden for New Year's Eve because Rose
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: and I, I mean, this is very New York versus
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: l A. But we were really wanting to do the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Margarite de Ville for New Year's Eve. We go, So
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: we go usually go to the movies at Universal City
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Walk and right next to the theater there is a
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffetts Margaritaville. It's a very cursed area. Wait is
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: this that place that has like it's like it's only
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: little village. Yeah, okay, I think I saw Dune there. Yeah,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: that's also where we saw Dune that friends slept through. Um. Wait,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that just come around to Doune because I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: didn't think as I was walking into House of Gucci,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: I would love an Imax House of Gucci like we
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: accidentally saw. We imagine House of Gucci and three Yeah,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I would like No, I would like House of Gucci
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: and four d X where the seats shake and they
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: spray you. Dacine. Yeah, well this is definitely shaped daring
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: the Saxcine. That's when he was taking her to Pound Town. Um,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: what do you what do you see next for Gaga
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: filmic Lee m hmmm, aside from um entering the m
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: c U, Yeah, which is inevitable. I really wish that
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: she was going to be Ursula and the Little Mermaid
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: as she had been. I think that's a very I
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: think like a Disney live action adaptation. While they are
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: the least of God's worries right now, I will say
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: that I think that she could really succeed in something
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: like that. Would she be not Ursula? I think she
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: would be amazing in Disney, but not La Melissa McCarthy. Okay,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: so what else do we have? So we've already done
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Beauty and the Beast, the Little Mermaid. Um, I don't done.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know that. Okay, I'm a meeting the Beast. Truth.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I love them. It's like they're obviously um Maleficent. Um?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Has there been Maleficent doesn't count? It was a spin off.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Has there been a good Disney Live action remake? Because
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm actually I think Cinderella is actually
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: very good. It was it was Kate because it was
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: the first of them and so there wasn't this like
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: expectation for it. I do think Gaga needs to play
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: a villain. Oh yes, oh maybe the evil queen in
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: a snow white. They did Aladdin and Dumbo. I forgot okay,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Aladdin was that was really bad. I did actually enjoy
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: parts of it. I'm ashamed to say, but it was.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: It was pretty bad. Oh. They did the Jungle Book.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that about Oh my gosh, imagine if
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: she did Cruella, well, I mean we just got it
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: with no if she had done it, maybe and Krella
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: to Krella reloaded, Taga will be like her mom, her
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: like tethered Corella her mom because her mom dies in
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: the first one. Maybe she comes back to life. There's
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: one thing Gaga is gonna do. It's come back to life,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: and she will come on set in an egg. You
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: know what I mean it as we crawl his mom.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the only thing that I would At
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: this point, they're developing a Pinocchio live action right now.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: And is she going to be a geppetto Italian Italian legend. Well,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: you already know she does great drag and Italian and
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: the nose. It'll give her another chance to do the
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: nose exactly exactly. You're so fucking ugly. Stop. I am
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: kind of sad that. I mean, I guess like Adam
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Driver in this movie like really resented his dad, but
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't get a chance to say,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: like you could be left book and death if you
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: fucking tried and like sell his peanut farm or whatever
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: it was a pecan farm in Arizona. But thank you.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: I can't mean like one more Gaga movie where she
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: like just really like attack someone's father for her, like
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: to make it like a trend like, Lady Gaga does
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: not recognize fathers, and that's powerful and amazing. Yeah, well,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: maybe she's like working out some tension with her own father,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: who is the restaurant tour a restaurateur and absolute Trump supporter.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait really yeah, so I don't know.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: When she said that she was looking for clues in
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: d C during the inauguration, she was she was looking,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: she was looking for she was looking for her dad.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: We have to thank you. We have to talk about
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Lady Gaga in messating the Insurrection, she said, I don't
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: consider myself the person, but I am fair and I
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: will find people. She's like her Barbara Walter's wig on
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: and she said, I am a woman on the ground.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for the story. I'm gonna get it live
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: from fucking America. In her bulletproof dress, She's like, I've
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: seen three seasons of Scandal and I know what I'm
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: doing here. Okay, that was like an iconic I'll listen.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: I'll say it. That quote was better than House of Gucci,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Lady Gaga saying, yes, The Insurrection was better than any
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: movie could ever be. What do you think Patrizia's favorite
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: song on the Stars Born soundtrack would be why did
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: you do this to me? Because she feels it? Why
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: did why did he do this to her? That is
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: I I don't know if like the stakes of Patrizia's
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: emotional devastation were felt by me at the end, However,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: it was definitely the That's how I felt leaving the theater.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Still like it was to me when I left the theater,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: the resonant thing was like she really even though she's
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: obviously crazy and an anti hero, like I felt that
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: how was she an anti hero or was she a villain?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: I think I think structurally she I think she was
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: an anti hero personally because I think that they wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have painted such a favorable portrait of her falling in
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  Speaker 1: love with Adam to me if they didn't want you
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  Speaker 1: to root for her at least a little bit. And
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  Speaker 1: I also feel like when even though um, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like even though like there wasn't like they
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  Speaker 1: were part components of it that fell apart that I
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  Speaker 1: think we're a fault of the script and not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: a fault of like Gaga, I still felt like it
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  Speaker 1: started and ended with a woman in love, and to
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  Speaker 1: me it was not even though it's her love is
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  Speaker 1: corrupted by money and greed and power, which she obviously
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  Speaker 1: wanted to it still was about love and another Gaga
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  Speaker 1: film that ends with her with her man dead. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well Jackson Mane loves forever. There. We can at least
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  Speaker 1: determine that in whatever the Gaga's third movie is her
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  Speaker 1: she's gonna get in a fight with the dad, her
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