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NFL Week 17 Betting Preview · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by Brett three
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  Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. Today
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  Speaker 1: is our week seventeen, Tuesday NFL episode. I am Chad Milman,
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  Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We are coming
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  Speaker 1: off of a three and two week in our contest,
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  Speaker 1: folks coming down and to the final days. We'll give
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  Speaker 1: an update on that in a few minutes. We did
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  Speaker 1: not have a Sunday show. It was Christmas Eve. We
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  Speaker 1: all spent it with family and friends, as we are
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  Speaker 1: supposed to do. We definitely were not sweating games. So
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  Speaker 1: here's a very brief recap of winners, losers, good calls,
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  Speaker 1: bad calls, big balls. Bet of the Week we went Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: The line when we made the call was plus two
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  Speaker 1: and a half. The line moved to three and a half.
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  Speaker 1: We were on the two and a half. We apologize
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  Speaker 1: if you bet it in that moment. We hope you
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  Speaker 1: got the three and a half. Eventually, exec decision, which
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  Speaker 1: was a nanosecond of just calamity on my part. San
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  Speaker 1: Francisco minus five and a half and moments later Simon
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  Speaker 1: walk me back, but because the graphic could run and
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  Speaker 1: Tito didn't want to change the graphic. We left it
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  Speaker 1: at San Francisco minus five and a half, Simon says,
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  Speaker 1: Carolina plus five. Nice job, Simon, Foxhall Atlanta minus two
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  Speaker 1: and a half. Didn't matter. We got it done, okay.
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  Speaker 1: On today's show, we will of course get to our
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  Speaker 1: Simon sas and our exact decision. On Thursday, we will
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  Speaker 1: finalize our big Balls Better than Week, our foxhol our survivor,
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  Speaker 1: our moneyline parlay. Don't forget this episode. We will look
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  Speaker 1: at the entire board. As we begin narrowing down. The
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  Speaker 1: contest given away. Forty g's let's bring in my co host,
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  Speaker 1: my bff, my companion, Michael Padre, professional better, Simon Hunter
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  Speaker 1: et Oh, Simon Simon Flowers Flowers, Flowers, Flowers. We were
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  Speaker 1: right on the Ravens plus five and a half. You
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  Speaker 1: never wavered, you walked me back. We had the Panthers
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  Speaker 1: plus five and a half. We had the Titans plus
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  Speaker 1: three and a half in the contest, got all those.
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  Speaker 1: We were wrong on Arizona plus four and a half,
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  Speaker 1: Dallas plus one and a half. Just for housekeeping purposes.
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  Speaker 1: It was a tricky contest this week because Dallas got
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  Speaker 1: up to two and a half in the contest, but
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  Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't change the lines because Carolina and
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  Speaker 1: Arizona had moved to three and a half. We liked
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  Speaker 1: those numbers better. We liked Atlanta all the way through.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of the last ones out. Didn't like
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  Speaker 1: the number because they had moved to a favorite. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get you there in New England plus seven and
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  Speaker 1: a half, which surprised me a lot. But in the end,
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  Speaker 1: you're Keenans. Your professional acumen, your clear eyed assessments kept
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  Speaker 1: me from making a massive emotional square mistake, and for that,
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  Speaker 1: I salute you. Simon Hunter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, fun weekend.
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  Speaker 3: We had some great games, probably one of the best
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  Speaker 3: weekends of Lions fans lives. Right, first division win in
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  Speaker 3: their history. They never won the North before, which blew
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  Speaker 3: my mind. I didn't realize that. But the last time
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  Speaker 3: they won it, it was what the Central Division, It
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  Speaker 3: wasn't the North I know that.
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  Speaker 2: Ninety three, So yeah, that was just really cool.
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  Speaker 3: As of a long suffering fan until I won a
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  Speaker 3: super Bowl, it was the highlight of my life. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like this is their super Bowl, right, they finally
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  Speaker 3: won their division. They took it down, and they did
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  Speaker 3: it the right way, like they built through the draft.
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  Speaker 3: I mean two rookies, I think their first team in
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  Speaker 3: NFL history have two rookies have nine touchdowns each in
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  Speaker 3: crazy like I just remember looking back at the draft
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  Speaker 3: being like, they shouldn't draft offensive guys, they should be
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  Speaker 3: drafting defensive guys, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then they did draft defensive guys, who were like, why
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  Speaker 1: are they drafting these defensive guys?
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  Speaker 3: It's just crazy where it's like they used their early
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  Speaker 3: picks on these two offensive studs, and the returns that
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  Speaker 3: got on the investment is they won their division in
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  Speaker 3: the first year with them.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, fun, fun weekend of Betty.
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  Speaker 3: Thank god we got the three and two brother because
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  Speaker 3: we were sitting there too and oh, feeling pretty good
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  Speaker 3: and then quickly were owing to it two and two
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  Speaker 3: and she was like, oh my god, were really about
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  Speaker 3: to go two and three again, but thank god Ravens
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  Speaker 3: came through good read on the right side of a
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  Speaker 3: winning number, And yeah, it's that was a fun Christmas
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  Speaker 3: of games, like the Raiders game was great, Eagles game
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  Speaker 3: ended up being really good, and then even though it
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  Speaker 3: was a blowout, it was really exciting competitive game and
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  Speaker 3: it was what a two to three point game and
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  Speaker 3: a half. So yeah, for standalone games, that Christmas was
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  Speaker 3: pretty damn fun show.
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  Speaker 1: All right, before we get to the games, we're going
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  Speaker 1: this episode description. All Right, We're almost there. Tyreek Kill
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  Speaker 1: came back to play against Dallas, had ninety eight yards
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine yards, two hundred and twenty yards ahead of
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  Speaker 1: CD LAMB with two games to go. Feeling good about that.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter now minus fifteen hundred and bet three sixty
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  Speaker 1: five defensive Rookie of the Year. Most interesting conversation is
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  Speaker 1: MVP Simon to Lamar Jackson's to lose. We said this
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  Speaker 1: would be the MVP bole. I think Lamar Jackson might
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  Speaker 1: have won it with that scamper at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the first half that put them in field goal range
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  Speaker 1: because it was magical and to see guys flailing and
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  Speaker 1: trying to get them. He's now minus one seventy five.
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  Speaker 1: Our boy Christian McCaffrey, he leaped up to number two
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  Speaker 1: plus three seventy five, another all purpose game and a
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  Speaker 1: touchdown for him. It's probably not gonna happen for us.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that I got over my emotional needs and
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  Speaker 1: just bet the Ravens plus five and a half.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still it's MVP is Betting is very dumb. And
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  Speaker 3: I talk about this all the time. It's fun to
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  Speaker 3: talk about it's fun to talk to the media about it.
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  Speaker 3: But it's like, I don't even know. I don't need
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  Speaker 3: to be.
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  Speaker 2: Too graphic, so I guess I won't go there.
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  Speaker 3: But it really is hilarious watching people be like, oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, one game, all of a sudden, lamar is
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  Speaker 3: the favorite party dropped way down. It's like, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: as if this award is made up and it's very fluid,
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  Speaker 3: and it all is determined week by week and there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing official. Like the guy who bought that party ticket,
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  Speaker 3: I know he's got money to burn, but what an
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  Speaker 3: embarrassing loser like you bought something before the game, even
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  Speaker 3: if they'd won this game, right, say, just something crazy
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  Speaker 3: happened pretty drove the field the end of that game,
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  Speaker 3: they won that touchdown and.
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  Speaker 2: They win that game by point or two.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's probably still right there with Purdy and
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  Speaker 3: who McCaffrey this this week Lamar plays Miami. If Lamar
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  Speaker 3: lays an egg, he drops right like he'll drop out
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  Speaker 3: of that and Tua, who knows plays out of his
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  Speaker 3: mind two shoots up. McCaffrey's back to number one. Or
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  Speaker 3: we keep talking about Josh Allen, it's he's sitting right there,
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  Speaker 3: like just waiting for his spot to wiggle in there
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  Speaker 3: in that final week against Miami, where again, if they win,
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  Speaker 3: did they win that division? Like that's a crazy story.
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  Speaker 3: So just be careful with people out there. People are
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  Speaker 3: like I had someone like Shi go spend this Lamar
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  Speaker 3: money now, and it's like, no, dude, Like there's nothing
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  Speaker 3: is set in stone here. It's such a hyperbodical year
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  Speaker 3: where the MVP is one week. I mean, Evan just
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  Speaker 3: put in our chat eight different players have been at
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  Speaker 3: least co favorite this season won the award. It's just
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  Speaker 3: been that kind of year where there is no Peyton
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  Speaker 3: Manning throwing for five thousand yards or Lamar having fifty touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: Like Lamar doesn't have the numbers. Go look at Lamar's numbers.
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  Speaker 3: They're not there because he gives the ball to Gus
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  Speaker 3: Edwards at the one instead of running in himself. So
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  Speaker 3: it's really stupid. It's a really stupid award. But I
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  Speaker 3: would give it to Lamar as well. Lamar wins against
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  Speaker 3: Miami everything it plays out. We talk on the times
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  Speaker 3: a QB award McCaffrey, incredible season. But you see why
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  Speaker 3: it's a QB award, Like Lamar took over that game
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  Speaker 3: last night, right Jet, he was the best player by
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  Speaker 3: far in that field. It's the difference, right, doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: McCaffrey is a game changer, the quarterback. If they're the
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  Speaker 3: best player in the field, that who wins the game.
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  Speaker 3: So really fun season, honestly for the MVP stuff like
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  Speaker 3: that that we gave us, I love that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It's great you're mentioning the party ticket. So we tweeted
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  Speaker 1: this at Action Network, I think late last night, and
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  Speaker 1: a buddy of mine texted me today a guy sold
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  Speaker 1: a purty MVP ticket on prop swap which is the
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  Speaker 1: exchange where people can sell future tickets and cash out
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  Speaker 1: in advance at you know, basically hedge. And so a
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  Speaker 1: guy sold his pretty ticket for MVP before the game
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  Speaker 1: landlast night, one hundred and twenty five grand. And a
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  Speaker 1: buddy texted me and said that he's friends with the
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  Speaker 1: guy who did it. Oh no, when they where, the
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  Speaker 1: guy was saying, should I sell it? And everyone in
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  Speaker 1: the chain is like, sell it, sell it. Tell let's
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  Speaker 1: sell it's sell it? And so he sold perty MVP
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  Speaker 1: before the game last night. Yeah, for one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty five grand. It's feeling pretty good right now, all right?
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  Speaker 1: New York Jets at Cleveland Browns Thursday. The Browns are
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  Speaker 1: seven point favorites. Out of a strong opinion, I probably
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  Speaker 1: lean Cleveland. I know it's over inflated, but we like
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  Speaker 1: the defense at home versus the Jets offense that honestly,
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  Speaker 1: it can only score if the field is twenty yards
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  Speaker 1: or less. I mean, we saw this this past week,
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  Speaker 1: right they The only reason they were up is because
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  Speaker 1: they there were so many turnovers and miscues in that game.
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  Speaker 1: But not a strong opinion on this one.
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  Speaker 2: Is this our last Thursday of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Do they do one last Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, what a perfect ending the Browns and the Jets. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like Chet, We'll keep it moving because we have
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  Speaker 3: so many games to go through. But I honestly want
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  Speaker 3: to take the Jets. It's at seven and a half
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of books. That feels like a very
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  Speaker 3: high number. But yeah, Joe Flacco man playing out of
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  Speaker 3: this world. I think he's the co favorite now for
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  Speaker 3: Comeback Player of the Year and he started week thirteen
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  Speaker 3: just an all time story. Like the Browns, I would
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  Speaker 3: love for them to win a super Bowl with Joe
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  Speaker 3: Flacco as the quarterback would be the coolest story ever.
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  Speaker 3: But their whole team's dead, like they have so many injuries.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know how they make the run with
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  Speaker 3: what they has had happened to him. But it just
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  Speaker 3: shows you how stupid it is some of these teams
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  Speaker 3: spending the kind of money you spend on like a
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  Speaker 3: guy like Watson, where if you have a great team
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  Speaker 3: and they just had held on to Baker, they'd probably
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  Speaker 3: be in the same exact spot now for half the price.
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  Speaker 3: So just never any lessons in life, And that's the
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  Speaker 3: lessons for the Browns where it's like you can't buy
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  Speaker 3: the championship with a quarterback. It's like you just need
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  Speaker 3: the right player on the right team, and Joe Flack
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  Speaker 3: all right now is the right player for the right team.
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  Speaker 2: Just an incredible story.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it would be great if they ended up playing
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  Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions and the Super Bowl, who are six
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  Speaker 1: point under dollars. On Saturday last week. Our first instinct
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  Speaker 1: was Detroit, and I think we got talked out of
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  Speaker 1: it by the wise guys, and we were worried about Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: They were on the road against a blitz happy team.
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  Speaker 1: We totally got lost in the details here because at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, Detroit indoors that entire offense
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  Speaker 1: is healthy. When it is healthy, it is awesome. I
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  Speaker 1: honestly regretted every second of that game on Sunday that
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  Speaker 1: we didn't take them. Now, Dallas is desperate, Detroit is
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  Speaker 1: still playing for seating. I don't see Dan Campbell pulling
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  Speaker 1: his foot off the gas and this feels like just
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  Speaker 1: a an unusually big number.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the human element, right, They just won their division.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you got golf crying. I know the border
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  Speaker 3: after the words, it's like you have to bet Dallas here.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, It's like I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: do it. I'm pissed at Dallas. They fucking choked Dak
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  Speaker 3: choked a full back sneak at the one, like Pollard
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  Speaker 3: can't run the ball in when it's wide open. I
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  Speaker 3: fucking hate this Dallas team. But we got to be
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  Speaker 3: professionals here. Thank god we can't play in the contest
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  Speaker 3: because like this is such a smash spot for Dallas,
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  Speaker 3: like total letdown game for the lines. But fucking hate Dallas.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm so happy we can't put this in the contest.
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  Speaker 3: Just just do not want to touch this one. But
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  Speaker 3: gonna be betting Dallas all.
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  Speaker 1: Right this next game. You know, I'm away, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not in a place where I could legally bet. So
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  Speaker 1: I was making my notes yesterday on the plane and
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  Speaker 1: I saw this Miami Baltimore game at the time Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: was three. I'm like, am I not able to bet
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore right now? Because we were feeling good about Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: last night? And it's crazy if you look at the
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Miami game, how even it was by every metric,
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you look at like it was
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  Speaker 1: an even game. Every single statistical category the biggest difference,
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  Speaker 1: and you talk about the fumble on the one yard
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  Speaker 1: line for the fullback and just bad play calling classics,
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  Speaker 1: sort of Dak McCarthy choke game. The real difference was
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  Speaker 1: no Tron Smith and the four sacks. Like those four
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  Speaker 1: sacks happened at the worst time. Every single time Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: has a better, more complete defense, a better coach, more
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  Speaker 1: dangerous quarterback. Miami on the road against good teams has
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  Speaker 1: yet to prove it. Tito Dolphins super fan made a note,
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  Speaker 1: two is two and zero against Lamar. This line has
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  Speaker 1: going up. It was minus three. Wise guys hit it.
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  Speaker 1: It's now minus four. Tough one. It's tough one. I
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  Speaker 1: like Lamar at minus three. I like them less when
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  Speaker 1: the number gets bigger, and like.
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  Speaker 3: A true sick guy, I only really remember my bad
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  Speaker 3: beats of me and chat.
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  Speaker 2: It might have been last season.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: We had the Ravens pretty big, and I think they're
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: up like what twenty one head into the fourth quarter
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: and two I had the most insane comeback ever and
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: we lost that cover and the Miami Dolphins went outright.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Another time, too, is when we took the Dolphins.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: I think it was a Thursday night game, eight point
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: dog at home against this Ravens team and they blew
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: them out. I think it might have been Fitzpatrick at
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: quarterback or maybe it was to it, but it was
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: just there. The Dolphins were dead. No one's betting them.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: It is weird how Lamar plays against Miami. I don't
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: know if it's a hometown thing. It's because he's from Florida.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Who knows football is so weird that way, But yeah,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: we wanted we wanted to be on Miami here in
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: the sense that if the Ravens had won, you know,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: especially if it's gonna be a close game, it's just
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: like you use up so much fighting That forty nine
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: ers corn Iris team is tough. They're gonna wear you out.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: So now they're traveling after playing a late game Sunday
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: back home. You know they're gonna have two three day
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: off here, maybe a day of practice, and they'll get
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: it right into it with Miami.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: But Ravens are gonna be feeling good all week, so
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: is Miami. Right.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: That was a huge win. They needed that win against Dallas,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: So you're not really getting any cancers out there. But yeah,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I like I said, I want to be on Miami.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Wanted to make this, Sigmon says, but why rush it?
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Why not let the public keep hitting this number and
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: maybe I'll get a better number on Miami. But I'll
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: take the four little here just in case the pros
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: come on it. But yeah, this number was three, what
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: it understood if it moved to three and a half. Now
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: that it's moved to four, it's like, Okay, the value
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: is shifting towards this Miami team at three. To me,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: the value was there for the Ravens at four. The
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: valley has got to be on Miami here at this number.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: So not ideal. With the Wattle injury. Wattle had a
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: fifty yard catch in the first quarter and tweaked his ankle,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: and now they're saying he might be done for the season,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: like it might be a high ankles injury. Have to
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: keep track on that. That's obviously a big deal for
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: that offense. But hold letdown spot for the Ravens. Like
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: everything about it. We always talk about we don't we
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: like Lamar as a dog. We don't like him as
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: over a three point favorite. He just has not been
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: profitable betting that, So yeah, again not making it. Simon says,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: but take Miami at the plus four just in case
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: it does drop. But I could see this going up
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: to four and a half five, And yeah, I'm not
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: gonna overreact to a great Ravens game. The Ravens had
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: their perfect game they could ask for against the fourty
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: nine ers team. How many games we've seen this Ravens
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: team be sloppy, chat right, We've seen so many games
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: this season where you know.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: That Pittsburgh game, that Colts game.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: There's so many times they've been sloppy in games where
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: me and you have been on the other side of
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: it where it's like, you know, we love Ben Lamar,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: but team like the team like that Rams couple weeks ago.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: The Rams were in that game the whole way, and
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: it's just because the Ravens kept getting opportunities and the
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Rams are the Rams were able to tack downfield against
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: the secondary that had Kalla Hamilton who might be hurt
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: and might miss this game. So again, it's just all
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: pointing towards Miami and this offense to get right against
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: this Ravens. But Chad put up a good point like this,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Ravens front could give big issues to that Dolphins protection,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: But we'll trust McDaniels to get the scheme right this
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: week against this Ravens team.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Lamar twenty two and thirty one against the spread, is
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a favorite of four and more, four or more. But
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: here's the difference as a favorite of three or less
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: or as an underdog twenty one and six against the spread.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh at three or less or as an underdog six
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: nearly sixty percent against spread fifty eight percent. So there's
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a clear line of demarcation here at that field goal number.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And I think the more the Ravens get become the favorites,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and they are clearly the best team in the AFC
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: right now, the less they've proven their ability to cover
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: when everyone is expecting them to do what they're supposed
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to do, and that is that does matter no matter
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: how good the defense was, and this is a very
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: very good defense. But yeah, I'm with you. Now that
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: it's gotten before, and now that the Ravens won last night,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: we gotta let this thing inflate a little bit. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: think that don't go ahead.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I was gonna say, just people don't overact to
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: where we we love Lamar and we love bet him
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: as a dog. If they do get the one seed
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: and we catch say Josh Allen at plus three and
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: a half plus four in Baltimore. Yes, like, don't don't
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: bet their Super Bowl futures. Don't be going crazy like
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: drinking the kool aid. This this is a guy that
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Lamar for some reason cannot play well in the playoffs.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: And we've seen that over his career.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: And we have a guy that you know, this is
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: this is gonna be peak then that end the playoffs,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: especially if they get that one seed, the hype is
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: gonna be so high. And if he gets MVP, like
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: it's just you're buying at such a bad price point.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Just don't don't wake up today and think, you know what,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I don't want to miss out on this. It's the Ravens.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: The Ravens are when they have seed, this is the
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: best team. Don't overreact. Please don't buy their futures.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: And bet them for one Super Bowl Tennessee at Houston.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Houston's a three and a half point favorite. Look, c J.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Stroud is expected to be back. Ryan Tannehill was truly
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: awful often this past week.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Right then, man, Yeah, it's.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: They're really terrible. I remember earlier in the year we
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: talked about I think we did it. I did a
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: favorite YouTube Film Room exclusive on how bad their offensive
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: line was because I thought somebody was going to kill
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: him like they he just pummeled and that happened again
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: this past week. Part of it is him right, like
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: he's not as mobile as he used to be. He's
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: not making like he got he should have gotten rid
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of the ball, like at the end of the game,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: they had chances to get down there and tie it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I know we bake on Varabel, but this is not
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a good spot for him or his team. A defense
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that could not stop Geno in the fourth quarter completely
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: blew this game. Here's the reason why we do back
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: v Abel. Home faves in the division since twenty fifteen,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: forty five percent. Last five years, forty three percent got
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of home faves. We got five home favorites
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: in the division this week. This game is one of them.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: I honestly, as much I want to be on the Titans,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be. My issue is that they've
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: had back to back weeks, have just given it all,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: and they lost back back games by three points. It's
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: like when does not that they're going to give up,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: but it's like, what what do they have left? Like
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: they've given it all two weeks in a row and
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: they've just been you know, dominated, and they're facing a
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: team here that's getting their hero back, like they're getting
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: CJ back. The fear is what damage has happened to CJ?
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: In the sense of, you know, it's it's weird and
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: you miss a couple of games special when you have
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: a head injury and you kind of don't feel the same,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: you've lost your rhythm a little bit, and you're coming
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: back into it. So I want to be all over
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: this number, just a little hesitant to it. I want
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: to read more from beat right out Sea how CJ
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: looks at practice and things like that. But just a
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: little hesitant just because it is an injury to his
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: head and he's coming back from it, an injury that
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: took two over two weeks.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: He missed two games because of it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Like that's really serious compared to you know, most times
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: they forced these guys in, especially the quarterbacks, right unless
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: it's really serious, they're gonna set them out. So that's
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: the fear here is that it should it be an
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: injury that he probably should just sit out the rest
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: of the season, Yes, it could be, but he's not
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: because they're trying to mean the playoffs, Like that's a
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: huge deal, especially for a young team like this, to
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: make it into the playoffs and build off of that
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: going in next year. So can't fault them for getting
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: them back in there, can't fault him for getting his
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: own way back in there. And I just don't know
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: if I trust the number because of all those surrounding
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: issues right.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Now, Jeb Another, I agree with you. I just don't
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: think you know in years past. Something feels off about
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Vrabel in the second half of the year, Like I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: don't know if to talk about is this the end
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: of the rain for Derek Henry? Is this team transitioning?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Is he not a buyer? And Will Levice is he
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: thinking about the Patriots job? Who knows, But there's something
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: that feels sort of different about the way this team
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: is playing as we get into the latter half of
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: this year. So I'm less confident about sort of our
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel podcast positions than I think I was even
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: earlier in the year when these seemed like they were locks.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Even though he did it this past weekend. Right, another
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: division home favorite New didn't let at Buffalo. Buffalo is
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: minus twelve. I said in the intro, I'm surprised I mentioned.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: We didn't get to chat before we put in the picks.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It was just busy for the holidays. But we were
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: texting and I mentioned New England plus seven and a
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: half twice, and I was surprised you didn't bite on that,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: because it's normally a game that we'd automatically put in,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: but you didn't. You didn't want to do it once,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: let alone twice. And it feels like, in sir, circumstance,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: like this is in situation, this is the right side
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: for the Pats. But now I actually hated so much
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: more than I hate it than I liked it last week.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense? I'm afraid of this Buffalo team
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly want to take the Patriots, but I
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: don't get why it's so big, Like we would have
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: taken the Patriots if this was ten. Right, it's weird
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: that it's twelve twelve and a half in a lot
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: of books. Weird line because the Bills, yeah, as good
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: as they are, they can't stop turning the ball over
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: like Cook kept putting the ball on the ground. I mean,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen for some reason can't help but throw a
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: pick every game. It's bizarre where the Bills are really good,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: but they're going to keep teams in it if they
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: just keep turning the ball over. And New England's defense
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: this is why, I mean, Chad hates on a. Belichick's
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: the goat, like he's got a team playing hard from
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: still even after that three game run of when their
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: defense was giving up no point and they couldn't win,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: like they just I can't get over how good of
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: a coach Belichick is. And it's like funny because he's
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: such like the dinosaur style of like like that clip
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: of Bailey's Acty coming in hugging I think it was
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: O'Brien and then he sees like Belichick and he gives
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: him this like real serious look and like shakes his
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: hand and like it's just.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Bill is just so old school.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: He's he is truly a dying breed where it's like
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: there's every coach now feels like a player's coach, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: he is the furthest from it. Where it's like It's
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: crazy how this team plays for him. So I want
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: to take it, Chad, I want to take the twelve.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: But you're right where it's like, this is usually a
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: spot where the Bills just blow them out, right, especially
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: after a huge win they'd just had in Buffalo.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Such a letdown spot for them.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: That gets a billste and that played really bad and
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: had a lucky win against the Chargers. Is it back
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: to back weeks, They're just going to totally lay an egg.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: The Bill's like, that's what happened last week, right, The
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Bills just laid a total legg.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: That's why that game was close.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, like situationally, that's what I'm thinking about, right,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Division favorites, bad spot. But the Bills had their trap game.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Their trap game was traveling to La playing a backup
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: quarterback and a deckcad situation against the Chargers. They needed
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: to win this game desperately. It was an ugly, challenging game.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: They won it. The Patch just got their emotional win.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: So now we've got Buffalo going back, a clearly superior
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: team in terms of talent. It just feels like they
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: could run them over.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just scared of Ben and that big of a
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: number on a bill steam. I love to turn the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: ball over.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, who we love at the New York Giants.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: This lan's moved, which is interesting to me. The Rams
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: have been exactly the team that we've loved all season
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the past several weeks. You were all over them before
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the season began, won five of their past six games.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: They're only lost that squeaker to the Ravens. We were
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: on the Rams. They are now Ravens, who have proven
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: themselves to be probably the best team in the league.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: We've talked about the Rotuna Cooper Cup, but it's really
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Kyvin Williams. He's been the difference maker as he was
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: early in the year. This numbers moved went from six
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and a half to six. It's a little surprising to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: me because the things that you think would give the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Giants an advantage and make the wise guys like the
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Giants do not exist. Their rush defense is terrible. Before
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: this weekend, they were one of four teams to have
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: given up two thousand yards rushing already this year. And
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that's what the Rams are going to do. They're going
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: to have Kyvin Williams just run, run, run, and make
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: it open for everybody else. So this RAMS teams feels
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: juggernautish right now. But it's a bad number and a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: bad spot, so I'm torn. Simon Hunter.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Simon says, take the New York Giants.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Simon says, do it.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: We do what science says? Wow, let's go baby. Yeah.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: The reason this numbers move because I've just been hammering chad.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Man classic trap spot for this RAMS team, such a
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: letdown spot against a team that I mean, the public
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: is not going to be back in this team, right,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: we want to know who the quarterback is going to
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: be the Giants.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: But actually kind of.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Like the Giants matchup defensively against this RAMS team and
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: then offensively, I really like it because I mean they
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: run everything out through the back, right, like it's all
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: based through Saquon. The RAMS team, you know, as good
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: as they've played, their secondary can still be torched, right,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: And we've seen this team and the Giants be you know,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: two yards in a cloud of dust or they just
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: throw bombs, doesn't matter if it's de Vito or if
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: they're bringing Tyrod Taylor, They're gonna tack down the field.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: So this is a matchup where like this can be
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: on our money line around Robin, every teaser everything. Just
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: like last week with the forty nine ers, this is
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: the same thing this week with the Rams, Like everyone's
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: gonna be all over this team, all their teasers. It's
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: just feels like a little bit of a sucker bet.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: And again we're not always been that be on these ones,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: but it's like, you bet this spot on the Giants
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: long term, this is a sixty percent winner, Like this
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: is just something you play time and time again and it's.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Gonna win long term.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: And it's just such a letdown spot for this Rams
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: team because guess what they have after this game, the
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers, And it's just such a clear look
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: ahead where it's like, yeah, this matters.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: They need to win this, right, they want to.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Be a higher seat in the playoffs whatever, you know
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: their thing about that forty nine ers game, like that's
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: a big deal to this team and this offense with
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: you know McVeigh has been the little brother to Shanahan,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Like it's just the way their relationship has been.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: So I love it, I really do. I like love
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: that this number.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I thought was gonna get the seven, But like you said, Chad,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: it's like the pros game and they hit it down.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I joined them.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: It's just like, as soon as I saw this numbers
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: that was six and a half, It's like, okay, this.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: This number is way too high. They should be closer
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: to four and a half. Four.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: But the Rams, like Chad just said, they're they're the
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: most hyped up team right now. They're playing so well.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: They had these really good close games with you know,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: the Ravens. Like everything, it's just everyone drinking the Rams cooly,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: like they're the scariest team head into the playoffs. The
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: NFC of like, yeah, I don't want to play them
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: as an Eagles fan. Like their weapons, they have an
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: offense like Stafford's making these crazy armyming throws, and you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: it's just I hate it because they're my favorite team
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: this year, the Rams, Like I love them all season.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I've loved ben them. They're just my darling.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: But this is a fade week and then we'll pick
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: them up next week against the forty nine ers.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: But I have to fade them this week.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: The only thing I would say about this I agree
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: with with all of this is I feel like a
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: lot of these numbers this year, more than years past,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: have been floating higher as we got closer to the game,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and then they've been settling at six or thirteen, and
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden comes Sunday, the public comes
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: piling in more than we've seen and the number goes
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: back up to seven.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a rear miss, but I mean a great
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: example last week. I gave Carolina Simon says a five
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: to five and a half half and I close it three
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: and a half, so obviously didn't matter, laid it on three.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: But it's nice knowing they could have missed that two
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: pointer and it didn't matter where. It's like, well, it
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. We have the five and a half. We
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: already have that built in, so kind of.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: A similar spot too, Yeah, similar.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Spot, right, So yeah, it's I do feel bad about it,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Like that Tennessee one like you brought up. I had
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: a ton of money on the two and a half
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: and two. Luckily I did buy on the three and
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: the three and a half, But it's like those are
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: always tough and you get the bad number, like you said,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: So this one, I just I can just see it
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: coming down because the pros are gonna love this spot
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: for the Giants.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: It's just sucks.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: It already moved from six and a half to six,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: but I just want to grab it just in case
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: it does dip down a five and.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: A half San Francisco at Washington, Washington plus thirteen and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a half right now with bet three six five. Look,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers still need to win out to
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: keep the number one seed. We don't know who the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: QB will be for the Commanders yet. Ron Rivera hasn't
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: a now normally a huge road favorite, not a good
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: spot for Kyle Shanahan. You have to wonder if things
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: are different after losing it home the way they did,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and you just have to wonder, is this Commander's team
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: done with two games to go in the year and
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: they know everything's going to change. Yeah.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I would say the biggest fear if you're a Fortinis
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: fan is your team has lost their swagger, Like you
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: lost that we're untouched, moor and beatable. That's a real
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: confidence that team had. Now they feel human, and that's
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: a scary thing where it's like they don't have four
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: or five weeks to get it back right. They got
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: two weeks before the playoffs kind of picked the worst
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: time for the forty nine Ers to have that kind
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: of game or it's a rallying point where it's like,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: all right, we got embarrassed, we know what our weaknesses are.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: They go out, they blow out this Washing team by forty.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: They go and dominate the Rams the final week, and
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: it's like they're the one seed and who cares about
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: that Ravens game.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: They don't got to worry about them until the super
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Bow if they do see them.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: So yeah, big big game for the forty nine ers
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: in the sense that I want to take Washington.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: This is such a.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Bad letdown game where it's like, you're right, Chad. The
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Washington team though the fear is like they know it's over.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I mean that they gave it all in that Jets game,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: they still fell short even with Presett in that game.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: It's like, man, Washington is so bad, Like the forty
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: nine Ers matchup wise, should dominate this team in every way,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Like everything they do good, Washington is really bad, especially defensively,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: like they got nothing defensively.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: They can stop anything the foreigners can do offensively.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: So yeah, if we're going big dogs this week, there's
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: other dogs that'd rather take than this one, right, So
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I'm happy to pass on this one. But just be
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: careful people, if you're just blindly betting the forty nine ers.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Here, it's like it's a little stinky of a number.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's actually the perfect contrast to the
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: next game on the schedule, which is Arizona at Philly.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Philly is a ten and a half point fait it right?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Philly won yesterday, But interestingly, at eight am this morning
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the number was at twelve. It's been bet down to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: ten and a half. I like this morning, when I
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: was looking at my notes and putting together the script,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I wanted to make Arizona my exact decision at plus
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: twelve because the Eagles didn't look that good against the
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Giants that fumbled to start the second half the turnover
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: for a touchdown. I feel like Arizona is undervalued after
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: the Bears loss, and I do think just watching a
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: lot of that game, Arizona will watch that game as
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: players and think, oh my god, we had so many opportunities.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: And I think that the one thing they have to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: their advantage that probably didn't work against the Bears that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: does work against the Eagles is Trey mc bride in
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: there as a tight end. Is really starting to play well,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: and that's a pretty good way to attack the Eagles.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: In the middle of that, they're defense, and it's not
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: a good way to attack the Bears. So I can
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: understand why the wise guys have been betting Arizona in
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: this game.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it feels like Eagles are just like the Bills,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: where it's like, yeah, they got a ton of talent,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: but they can't stop turning the ball over. And the
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Egles easily should have blown the Giants out, and they
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: had some really stupid funbo to start the second half
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: with their own guys running into each other, and then.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: The Hurts pick six six.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: It's just is it bad luck or these teams just
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: are what they are? Like, are the Bills and the
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Eagles the same team where it's like tons of talent,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: but they play slopping, they turn the ball over and
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: that's what's going to burn them whence they have the playoffs.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: And that's why it feels to this Eagles team it's like, God, well.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it with the Chiefs too.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Like you watch against the Raiders, I think they are
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: what they are At this point, you're sixteen games into
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the season, seventeen weeks in sixteen weeks into the season.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: You are what you are, and it's not you are
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: what your record says you are. You are with tape
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: shows what you are, and we've seen it consistently. We
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: kept waiting for this Eagles team to get better offensively,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: to get better defensively, to sort of get beyond losing
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Gannon and Shane Steichen, and they kind of haven't yet,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and so they're not going to.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly though, it's the defense.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: I think the bar is so high for the offense
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: that like Herts is putting up you know, twenty four,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: twenty seven points every week, but people are still going
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: to bash them. It's just like the expectations so high
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: that that's just how it is where him And it's like,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: you know, you see guys they play through these injuries
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: and they're not as good as they were the year
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: before when they were super healthy.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Like Trevor Lawrence.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: The guy has a bad leg, a bum shoulder, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: a concussion and he's playing like shit these last couple
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: of weeks. I mean they were eight and three, now
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: they're eight and seven or whatever it is. It's just like, yeah,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: they're trying to play through injuries. It's not ideal, Like
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: you're playing through injuries against got the best players in
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: the world. Like it's just you're gonna look shitty. Your
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: team's gonna suffer when you're not on your a game.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: And whatever's wrong with Hurts, you know, his body might
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: be a little banged up. A lot of it's mental,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: like he's making these little mental errors of forcing into balls,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: forcing balls in the areas where you don't need to,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Like there's open guys, find your open read instead of
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: trying to force.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: It in and just make one read and throw it there.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: And yeah, this is just I'm with you on it.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Where it's like I like the Cardinals. The fear is
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: the Eagles are like the souped up version of the Bears.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Like what the Bears do offensively with you know Field's
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: being able to scramble, that's what Hurts can do as well,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: and that's what you saw Like Arizona, Yeah, they couldn't
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: get the Bears off the field because of that, Like
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: they have no one on that d line that has
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: any type of speed or rushing ability to really shut
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: down any quarterbacks. So Arizona is yeah, like what are
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: the second worst team of football. They've earned it. They
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: are dog shit on defense, and their offense is all
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Kyler and Connors right, Like, if they don't have a
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: running game, they're kind of dead. And the Eagles, that's
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: one thing they can do well stop a running game,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: but you can pass on them. So your love of
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals here is warranted, just because, just like the Bills,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: It's like if the Eagles turn the Bowl over two
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: or three times, Cardinals are easily going to cover this number.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Like you're just going to give them short fields and
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: put Color in the position to score and attack this
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: bad secondary. So I understand you. You want to make
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: it your exect decision. I wouldn't hate if you did.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: It's just it's a spot I'm probably going to have
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: to play the Cardinals.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I moved on when the number moved. I moved
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: on because there's a couple other games that I'm.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Even moved that much. You don't like that I moved
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: from a twelve to ten and a half eleven.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Simon, It's like I just saw it.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, not a stickler, you know. As
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: a reminder, it is an the list we're gonna have
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: to talk about it again on Thursday. Right now, the games.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: We got to talk about it again on Thursday. By
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the way, the Giants plus six Arizona plus ten and
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: a half. As a reminder for the second time, you
• 41:03
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• 41:07
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• 41:12
  Speaker 1: All Right, New Orleans at Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: a three point favorite, and I hate to say it,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: it may be time to fade elite NFL quarterback Baker Mayfield.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Can't do it.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Four wins in a row, back to back masterful performances.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: It's like Division Favorites at home. We have the evidence.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: It's a spot. Like dude, dude, we're going to get
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the sharp calls on Thursday, and we're going to be here.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I alread you can tell you early sharp calls. I
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: talked to a ton of guys smashing this the same spot.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: You have to.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: You can't, though.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: My argument to them is, it's fucking Dennis Allen, Derek Carr.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. I don't care. I agree like
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: old Simon, I would love this. But the new age man,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: the man that is so sick of Derek Carr and
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: how with him and Dennis Allen. This is an emotional bedroom.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: You're like, I know the number is going to say
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: too when I go through the model on this one.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: It's like, this is such a spot to play the Saints,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: but I'm not fucking doing it. And like I just
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I've talked to five guys and each each one of
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: them brought up the stats and how they love them
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: this spot. It's just like, I don't know. It feels
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: like they're walking into it. I'll join the public, Jos,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: and I'll die on the Baker Hill. I'll take Baker Hill.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: You know, if they win this, do they lock up
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: the division? Is this that decides the division? If it is? Like,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I just love it. I love the story, I love
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: everything about it. I'm prepared to be miserable back in Baker.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I am shocked, me too shocked to hear this. This
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: goes against every thing we've discussed together for five years.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I know I can't do it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield a one million dollar bonus for winning the
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: NFC South, which you could do weekend. I don't know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I know because on you know, on Thursday,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: this could end up being the Foxhall Jackson Jackson.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I just know I'm gonna get a lot of calls
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: with the Saints. I just feel like I'm not I'm
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: not gonna budget. I just I can't do it. It's
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: like it's like Detroit. Last week. I was on Detroit.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I knew Detroit. I got bullied fucking all week, just
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of shit talking to me. It's like, how
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: are you back in Detroit?
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Here?
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: They always losing this spot every now and then people
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: we see history and I'm gonna back Baker and seeing
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: something crazier. I just I can't believe we're in the
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: spot where Baker might win the South.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Detroit to me, actually made more since last week.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm bummed that we did get laid off of
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Detroit because like it basically was any of the circumstances
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: that we worry about with Jared Goff didn't exist. The
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: only thing was about the blitzing. But I thought we
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I think we felt their offense was so good and
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: so healthy that it didn't matter, and that they've actually
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: haven't been as bad as every injuries.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think you know, I don't think you were watching.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: The Vikings had like big injuries to their defense during
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: You know we got at the end of the day.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I think we got Nick Mullen.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean. And we're going to talk about Mullen.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: If you want to get Derek Card do you want
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: to get Derek Carr? I really get Baker Mayfield.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, Caroline at Jacksonville, I'm surprised this line is going up.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: You know we went up from six to seven. Uh.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Watching the Panthers this past weekend, I kept thinking to myself, A,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the Panthers are at home. They played better there, because
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: in the beginning it looked like it was just going
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: to be a loss for us.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the defense was terrible.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Then I remember that Bryce Young is in stellar against
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the spread in the second half this year. Thanks to
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Evan Abrams for that stat. Bryce Young, there are a
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: couple camera shots, is a tiny, teeny teeny human being.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: He just doesn't belong in an NFL field. It's amazing
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: to me how much he's been balling out these past
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: few games since Frank Reich was fired, and the Jacks
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: can't get it together, Like, why did this number go up?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: It makes no sense to me.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, the Panthers are that bad. I will give
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: flowers to how tough young is. You know, just coming
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: into the year, I just thought when I call him
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: the QB position, I was like, there's no way this
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: guy is gonna last this season. Think of all the
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: hits he's taken and he's lasted. I mean it's crazy.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Like the Panthers, they're a line can't block. He's getting
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: crushed every week and he's lasted. Like it is crazy
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: to think all the other he's got hurt, none of
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: them lasted. He the smallest one, has lasted this whole season.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Pretty pretty incredible, Like that guy is obviously toughest shit.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: He's a gamer. I can see why. Like they got
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: sucked into a fell in.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Love with him.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Like he's got a great personality, he's likable, hard working,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: but like you, just like you said, he's so small
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: out there when you see him around these other guys,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: especially his linemen, It's like, this guy is so tiny.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I just don't know how he's gonna hold up for
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: this whole career, especially all.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: The hits he's taking. Now just just brutal. So yeah,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I want to take the Panthers. Need to talk to
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: some people because I need to know who's moving this
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: line on the Jaguars and what they know.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: But the Jaguars suck and they got injuries, and.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: You know, if it was fully healthy all their wide receivers,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is fully healthy, Yeah, I would love the
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Jaguars here. It's like they would torch this Panthers defense
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: at home. But they're just not the same teams they
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: were or five six weeks ago.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: They just had terrible injury luck.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: And you know, Trevor keeps trying to play through these
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: injuries and he's just not right. I mean, he looked
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: down right awful in that Bucks game. So if it's CJ. Bethard,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: maybe this makes more sense the line movement. But I'll
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: take I'll take the Panthers plus seven if it's seven
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: and a half in our contest, like no brain or play,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: didn't didn't want to, didn't plan on backing the Panthers
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: three weeks in a row, But here we are, Chad.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I know, honestly, this also was almost the exact decision,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: and I thought, am I really going to say to people.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: We're back in the Panthers three. I know, but his
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: number just feels too big. It too much against the
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville team that is that is flailing and we honestly
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna get next week.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: At the question the staff from Evan, what do you say?
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: See since week thirteen, so that's when Trevor is leive
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: he got injured. He's nineteen or thirty six qbs and
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: EPA per play, and he's twenty seventh in completion percentage.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: So it's just his yes.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Hasn't been the same. I still owe an exec decision.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: This also almost met the land in Chicago. I think
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: this is the Justin Fields Bowl? Right? Will he remain
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: in Chicago? Will he be traded? Will the Falcons be
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: a potential landing spot? This week, all the rage in
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: the Chicago land text chains were did you see that
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams like to tweet that said the Bears should
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: keep Justin Fields? Everyone speculating that Caleb Williams does not
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: want to go to Chicago to be their next quarterback. Now,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: even without that, I kind of lean the Falcons here.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I think the Bears are overvalued after last week. The
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: one thing the Bears can't do is turn the ball over,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and they were lucky enough to only do it once
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: last week. And the one time they did, Arizona ran
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: down the field and made it a game for about
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: ten minutes. So I feel like three is just too
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: much against an Atlanta team that's less something to play
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: for that is much more talented Arizona. So my lean
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: is Atlanta.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I want to take the Bears just because Atlanta they're
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: frauds themselves, Like, yeah, they they beat up that Colts
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: team last week, but that was more of a Colts
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: letdown spot.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it. It was just a class those teams.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why I don't That's why I'm not
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: making the exact decision, by the way, because I don't
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: believe Atlanta can can play consistently two weeks in a row.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially we've seen them. They're splits from indoor to outdoors,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: and you know, heini key, he's gonna he's gonna burn you.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: And now he's going to get into a Bear's team
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: that loves to turnover quarterbacks like it's what they do.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: So well, Yeah, just i'd be bummed as a Bears
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: fan where it's just like if you guys had just
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: traded for Sweat, it feels like in August, I feel
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: like your whole season might have been a little different,
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Like Sweat.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Made that much better, so.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Much better everything, like everything, He's even you know, you
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: guys went out and got two linebackers who have been,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: you know, all right, but when Sweat got in there,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: it made them go from all right to being what
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: they should have been, which is like absolute studs all
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: over the field. Like they've really changed. He's really changed
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: that whole defense. So the Bears are playing really well. Man,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Like this number it's a little fishy because it's like
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I want to be with the public and smash the
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Bears here and I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: the two and a half, I'll take the three, and
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: I assume this will go up to three and a half.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: It's just it feels a little low here. It's Heinikey
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: on the road with Atlanta team that you know, they
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: haven't they've had their own injuries where the Bears, other
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: than I think DJ Moore might have got banged up,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: they got pretty they're pretty healthy. After last week, like
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: they're not like all these other teams, I've had a
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: bunch of injuries. The Bears really haven't had those major
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: injuries across their team these last couple weeks. So yeah,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: the Bears, I'm buying high, Like this is as hig
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: as it gets, probably.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Very high, very high. What's going on with you?
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just the public has been winning, like you know,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm trying to see it from their standpoint
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: of The bookmakers have been laying some ship numbers, and
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I don't want to put too much faith in these
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: bookmakers where it's like, you know, this feels like a
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: ship number. Like the Bears when they don't turn the
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: ball over, they're pretty damn puffed to beat, Like they
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: got a pretty stout defense and they have one of
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: the best weapons in football.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: And Justin Fields offensively.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: And like the reason they sucked during the year was
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: because Justin Fields wanted to prove he was a pocket passer.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Where it's like, dude, be like lamar, use your legs
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: when the pocket breaks down, there's no shame in running
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: and picking up five six yards And it feels like
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: he's been free since coming back from that injury a
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. Like he's playing more loose. He's
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: he's running the ball instead of just standing in the
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: pocket taking stupid sacks, which he did from week what
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: one through six? So yeah, I can't believe it. I'm
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: joining the public and on another one, I'll buy the
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Bears here.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: It's so interesting. That's two seasons in a row. By
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: the way, where last season they had a terrible loss
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: to the Commanders, went into the by after the buye
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: it seemed like Luke Getzi and the offensive staff saw
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: what the Eagles were doing with Jalen Hurtz and tried
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: to mimic that with Justin Fields and then the Bears
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: were great, not great, but like perform better in the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: second half. This is how low the expectations are. If
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: the Bears are a competitive I.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Think they won one game with the second the Bears
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: are competitive.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: If they lose ten in a row, that's still optimistic
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: for Bears fans. And this year the same thing. They
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: came into the season with high expectations. He doesn't play well,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: he's making a lot of turnovers, gets injured, comes back,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: and they start using him in a more natural way
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: that plays to his skill set, and this year they
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: are winning. I'm away with both of my kids right now,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: my wife, and this morning one of my kids said
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: to me they were doing a draft of the worst
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, and he said, can you name
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: five teams worse than the Bears? And I actually I
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: think I could.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Easy.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: So, uh that's how bad it's gotten. It's like the
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Bears aren't even the worst team anymore.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Staff from Evan best defenses since Week nine, the Vegas
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: raid is the Chicago Bears and Cleveland. So Chicago Chagog's
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: defense man, they've been, they've been legit.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, I totally agree. Las Vegas at Indye.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Raiders, Indy is a three point favorite. I
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: just don't trust this Vegas team and I.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Know they No, No, you gotta you gotta take Colts here.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Don't even think about what do you need to break
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: this one down? Keep it simple, stupid, Take the Colts.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Who cares if it's Joe Public. Vegas had two touchdowns
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: from their defense and their quarterback didn't have a completion
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: after their first quarter, and they still blew out the Chiefs.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, fade Vegas will take the Colt too.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at Seattle Seattle minus three and a half. Both
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: teams overvalued in this spot. I don't love Geno against
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the defense. I don't love Rudolph on the road after
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: last week. I have no vision for this game.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: No. I like Seattle like I love what I've seen
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: from in the last two weeks. Incredible comeback win again
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: from Gina where.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't think he was gonna do it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be in his own head,
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Tennessee's defense that played really well, and he did it
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: man like that. That was crazy, Like the bad back
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: to back winning drives from two different quarterbacks on a
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: team that's pretty damn special. Like again, this year has
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: been so weird. We've had these incredible moments. And that's
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: another one where it's like Seattle, they're a feisty team.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: If they're gonna ride this high into the playoffs. We
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: all know they're not that good. We all know their
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: weaknesses they have and how the inconsistent this team is.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: But yeah, the Pittsburgh Steelers, Mason Rudolph, he is not good.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Like this man they've had on their team for what
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: feels like ten years, but it's probably been three or
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: four years. But he's been there forever, and there's a
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: reason they keep him at third and fourth string. There's
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: a reason that you know, they paid a joke of
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: a quarterback in Mitch Trubisky a shit ton of money
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: because they didn't trust Mason Rudolph. And yeah, he had
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: a good game. You really want to bet on him
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: having back to back good games. Now on the road,
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: facing that twelfth man in Seattle, having to have a
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: silent count the entire game. No, don't, don't do it
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: to yourself. They're not buy the three and a half.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Take the minus three and a half. Don't let the
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: hooks carry you off. I'll back another home favorite in Seattle.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Here, I'm looking at our list, like, what a contrast
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: of completely sharp plays and totally square plays right now?
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: In the Giants.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: They're all sharp. You got it. You'll come around on them.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Arizona. I put down New Orleans plus three.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: We're not fucking putting New Orleans plus three.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Carolina plus seven, then the Colts minus three, Seattle minus
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: three and a half. Maybe I'll put the Bears in
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: there just to have Yeah, it's fun. Chargers at Denver.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Denver's five and a half. Right now. If there was
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: a time I would want to back Sean Payton, it's
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: in this spot, like a tiny little chance off of
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: an embarrassing loss in which his team was outplayed. He
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: was out coach that gave away all the momentum they
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: had built up in the middle of the season. The
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Chargers had their dead cat bounce right they were at
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: home against Buffalo, they had their shot, almost pulled it off.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I don't like the number. I don't like the fact
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: that the division favorites play so badly against the spread
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: the past decade, the past five years, But I do
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: like the Broncos in this spot.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and shockingly, somehow, the Broncos are still fighting for
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: their division.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Pretty crazy to think one of the dumber bets I've
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: ever made might actually hit because the Chiefs have just
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: been an absolute trainerick this season. But yeah, Chad's right,
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Like I wanted to be on the Chargers but didn't
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: get there. No, and the numbers just shouldn't be this low.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: If it was seven to seven and a half like
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: the Patriots number, Yeah, I get there, but at five,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: it feels.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Like the value is on this Denver team that you know.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Like Chad said, they're just a team that can't stop
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: shooting themselves in the foot, Like they'd be probably ten
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: to eleven wins by now if they just didn't make
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: so many stupid mistakes all season. So yeah, scary betting
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: on Denver team with this bag of my number. But
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: it's even worse back in a Chargers team coming off
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: last week, where it's just they're over valued like this number,
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: this number should not be this low just because the
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Chargers had a bunch of turnover luck against the Bills team.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm with you, Chad, I'll back Denver here.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Uh speaking to Chargers, I mean speaking of Chiefs. Cincinnati
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: isn't that away seven point underdog on the road at
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Kansas City. The number opened at eight, moved down to
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: seven and a half, even in the last couple hours
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: has moved from seven and a half to seven, so
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: lines are moving. The Raiders won this game because of
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: their pass rush. Aidan O'Connell had less than sixty five
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: yards passing mahomes when he had his full complement of
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: receivers and wasn't basically teaching them rudimentary skills when Travis
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Kelcey wasn't playing, was playing at like his peak Travis
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Kelcey level. Patrick Mahomes as a favorite of more than
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: a field goal was under five hundred. Now he's not
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: getting any of those things. And now we're talking about
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift curses. This team's in trouble, not like not
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs kind of trouble, but they're
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out who they are offensively.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a great Evans that I saw. This is where
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: you can't take too much away from divisional games. I
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: try not to react to the divisional games. Patrick Mahomes'
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: career loss is a double digit favorite. He has one
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: against all their teams, so he's twenty one to one
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: against the Raiders. He is two, he's three and as
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: a double digit favorite in his career straight up.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: So it's crazy.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: It's bizarre, But that's how these divisional games are for
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: some teams, right, Some teams just match up well and
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: have other teams numbers. And that Max Crosby thing with
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Mahomes is real. Like I don't know if you remember
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: that NFL doc when they did it. Yeah, like that
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: was real beef. And you know, every play you watch
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: with Crosby anytime he touches them every little thing. He's
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: just always bugging them all game. And it got to Mahomes.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, Mahomes is anyone's.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Brand or person.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: I take a bigger hit this season than him, Like
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: he not that he's a whiny little bitch, but he
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: can be a whiny little bitch. Like he's on the
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: sideline bitching, complaining, and he got Kelsey come off the
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: field throwing his helmet and like they're just they're this
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: team that just felt like.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: You know, there're about to be a dynasty, right.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: They have just incredible talent across the board, and it's
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: all falling apart a little bit, Like there's just so
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: many things wrong with this offense and how how bad
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: they are, and just Mahomes, who's the best quarterback in football,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: can make these incredible plays, make all these guys miss
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: do all this crazy shit, and then this guy just
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: drops it and like even Kelsey's having bad drops. You know,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: thirty four years old. I get he's gotten older. I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: don't know if that's what's the blame here, Like, I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: don't know if you can just blame his age because
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: he is getting open, but he's having bad drops where
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: he's doing like little stupid plays that's just not very
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Kelsey type. So all the doubt everything being said about
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: this Chiefs team is warranted right now. They're just something's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: off and everyone knows something's off. And it's the same
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: thing with like Eagles, like something's just off about that
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Eagles team. It feels the same with this Chiefs team,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: where it's like we keep waiting for them to get
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: into form and be that team that you know, it's
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: still scary to have to play them in the playoffs,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: but it's not what it used to be where it's
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: like you're not dreaded all week where it's like, yeah,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: you're a little scared of playing them. It's Mahomes still,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: but like, I'm not scared about this team that can't
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: put up more than twenty points per game, right They're
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: just because of these lotter offenses.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: It's just that you just struggle so hard.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: So if you're a Chiefs fan, not that this is
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: exactly where you want to be, but it's like, you
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: guys have never been counted out like this before in
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: the Mahomes error, Like this is as low as it gets, right,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: so if you are someone that's buying them this week,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: I totally get it.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I just can't get there.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming you want to take Sincy two, right, Like,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: since he's still at seven seven and a half, it's
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: a good number. I just I can't take the Chiefs
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: as as big as a big of a favorite, like
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: you give me a Holmes as a dog or under three.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: I'm back in, but at this number against this team,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: cannot do it. Like I'll ride with this Sincy team
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: on the road at seven seven and a half.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: YEP. A couple of things, I'll say One, we see
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: this every year in the NFL. We're going to see
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: We've already seen how the Eagles are going to lose
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: in the playaffs, Right, It's going to be a stupid
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: turnover at some point in a game, and I guess
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: a team they shouldn't lose against. We've seen how the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Chiefs are going to lose in the playoffs. It's going
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to be a receiver or someone else, Travis Kelce dropping
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: the ball. These are concentration things, and like, I don't
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: know that they're going to get better through two or
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: three days of practices during the week. They get better
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: when you're practicing catching five hundred balls a day, and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: these guys just haven't gotten to that level yet where
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: they're able to execute in a way that the Chiefs
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: have in the past. I disagree that Mahomes has been
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a whining bitch. I think he's
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: confronting bigger challenges than he's ever seen, and he's so
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: frustrated because his talent is so much greater than everybody
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: else's and he's doing the same thing.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: I keep it together, though you're the leader. You can't
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: be screaming and shouting every game on the sideline, like, dude,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: come on, there's only you see other quarterbacks doing that
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: every week?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Chat? Or is it just Mahomes? What would you classify
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: as being a whiny little bitch?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Also? Tom Brady should do the same thing. Did you
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: call Tom Brady a whining little bitch?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: Once every other couple of weeks, or maybe every couple
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: of months. He's not doing it three weeks in a row.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: It's like Mahomes of being on a bad team right now,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: it's just the watch.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Honestly, the only guy who doesn't do it is Jalen Hurts,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: and now he's getting tagged, is not being emotional enough.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Show me Josh Allen losing his fucking mind on the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: sideline after last week, Like, oh my god, there's guys
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: that make dumb plays all the time on the bills.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: I don't see Josh Allen going ape shit on the sideline.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: We've seen Josh Allen lose his ship on the field before.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: We just have name it.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Mitchell, the diehard Josh Allen guy, tell me
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: this season where you've seen Josh Allen screaming, waving his
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: hands up and down the sideline in three weeks in
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: a row.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen gets spooked like a beautiful horse. He doesn't
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: scream at his teammates are the opposition that he He
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: gets frightened and scared and then someone has to put
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: the blinders on him and get it back into his pet.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: But there's to me. Then we're parsing hairs on whininess, right,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Like he complains the officials he gets upset with other players,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: like either keep your cool or don't keep you cool.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: That's not a it's not a spec in which you
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: get to decide, all right, it's one way or the other.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Simon I want you to concentrate right now, and I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: want you to think very hard on this next question.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Can you name the fastest growing ticketing app in the
• 1:04:12
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  Speaker 3: But looking at this one, my initial reaction was to
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  Speaker 3: But I think Chad just said it, it's like if
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  Speaker 3: right against the Blitz, this Vikings team is very beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: Just talk all the time about how important coaching is
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  Speaker 3: The Vikings nailed it, like they're coaching so good. But
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  Speaker 3: Chad said it like the talent wise, it's not there
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  Speaker 3: for them. And this is essentially a playoff game between
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  Speaker 3: these two teams, right, like both these teams need this
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  Speaker 3: it's the team that's just held together with sticks and
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  Speaker 3: different quarterback this season. It is bizarre, but I like
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  Speaker 3: to play Chad. I'm with you on Green Bay. Hopefully
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  Speaker 3: the sharp call is matchup what you're saying here, because
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  Speaker 2: It probably is the professional side.
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