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Honeymoon Higgins · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Guests,
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  Speaker 1: Who's back, bends back? What's up everybody? Yeah? All right,
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  Speaker 1: Before we go into all the details of his wedding
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  Speaker 1: and his honeymoon, we want to give the Batch Brack
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  Speaker 1: Rule of the week so that we don't forget because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, wow, we have like so much like juicy
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  Speaker 1: stuff about it from our way that like you know,
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  Speaker 1: we don't we don't want to cut up in it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: batch bragget Rule of the week. Um for week eight,
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  Speaker 1: which is December seven, is plus ten when a contestant
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  Speaker 1: says that they want to slash can see themselves starting
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  Speaker 1: to have a family, slash having kids with Michelle. All right,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're not going to get I mean, there's only
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  Speaker 1: four left, so they're all gonna say that. I would
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  Speaker 1: think that everybody gets pretty left at that point, right,
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  Speaker 1: everybody wins? Yeah? Yeah, okay, So Ben's back and Ben
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  Speaker 1: Easan and I of course talked about your beautiful wedding
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  Speaker 1: and how perfect this ceremony was and how beautiful your
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  Speaker 1: bride was and how great it was to see everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Now everything was just set up so nicely and like
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  Speaker 1: there's just so much love and warmth in the air. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: give it to us from your perspective, like was the day?
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  Speaker 1: The day turned out exactly the way that you wanted
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  Speaker 1: it to. Well, a lot of that is going to
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  Speaker 1: be dependent on you, um, and I'll explain why. I'll
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  Speaker 1: explain why. So when Jessica and I planned this wedding,
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  Speaker 1: the hope of this wedding was that we knew we
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  Speaker 1: would have the most fun no matter what, right, we
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  Speaker 1: would have a great time. It was gonna be our
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  Speaker 1: special day, like we're marrying each other. We were ready
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  Speaker 1: for this moment. But everything that we decided on details
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  Speaker 1: or how it was going to be set up was
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  Speaker 1: depending on We would have have even more fun if
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  Speaker 1: everybody else had fun, Like we wanted it to feel
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  Speaker 1: like a celebration and so, and before I go into
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  Speaker 1: the details of that day and kind of what that
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  Speaker 1: felt like to us, do you mind answering the question
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  Speaker 1: is on it like I want you to do honestly,
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  Speaker 1: do you did you have a good time at this wedding? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: My god, we had a blast. It was great. It
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  Speaker 1: truly was a big celebration feel we had so much fun,
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine it being better. Well that makes me
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  Speaker 1: happy because then, yes, it was a success. And we
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  Speaker 1: mean I don't know if anybody would tell us they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a good time when it's your own wedding. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But so far the responses have been really positive. And
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  Speaker 1: one of the ways we did this was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't do a sit down dinner. We did um
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  Speaker 1: food stands. Uh, not only because it's a lot more
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  Speaker 1: COVID safe, but also because it just we didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to stop the party as soon as the seramony was over.
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  Speaker 1: We wanted the party to start, and we did that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there was no lull no like you no, no, you
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  Speaker 1: didn't have like any there wasn't any cocktail hour, so
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  Speaker 1: like there was no break in the festivity. Feel No,
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  Speaker 1: you walk into the reception and the party starts. So
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things that happened that nobody knows yet. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we had an incredible opportunity. Jessica's favorite song with her
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  Speaker 1: father is Cinderella. UM. And that is a song that
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  Speaker 1: so many people uh danced to at their wedding. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It's something that you know, for Jessica, her dad and
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  Speaker 1: her dance to it as their children, and they had
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  Speaker 1: the original artist, um, Michael W. Smith. He recorded a
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  Speaker 1: video because he couldn't be there at the wedding, a
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  Speaker 1: video for Jessica and her dad to dance to at
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  Speaker 1: the at the reception, which I didn't know what was happening,
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  Speaker 1: and it rocked me, like, oh, that's so cute. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So that was the original writer, Michael de w Smith. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You look up Michael de W Smith Cinderella song and
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  Speaker 1: it would come up, and so he recorded a lot
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  Speaker 1: not alive. He recorded a video of him singing it.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it turned out awesome. My mom and I
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  Speaker 1: dance to Ben rector Um extraordinary magic um. And I
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  Speaker 1: thought those two that was like two very special moments.
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  Speaker 1: Her dad loves her a ton, She loves her dad
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  Speaker 1: a ton, uh and he's been very supportive through this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing for this wedding, uh and to see him
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  Speaker 1: dance together was really special. And then to have my
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  Speaker 1: mom and I dance together who you know, it's very
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  Speaker 1: we're very close, who I love dearly um, who's a friend,
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  Speaker 1: who's a mentor everything to me. And just be able
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  Speaker 1: to have that that that that that might be outside
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  Speaker 1: of the ceremony. My favorite parts of weddings just those
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  Speaker 1: little private moments where you can see parents, you know, gladfully,
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  Speaker 1: joyfully pass their kids off and say, you guys, go
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  Speaker 1: try this thing now, ums you. My favorite part of
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  Speaker 1: your wedding was your vows um her walking down the
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  Speaker 1: aisle and just like the tent was so like well
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  Speaker 1: lit at that point. And that's one of the nice
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  Speaker 1: things about the sun's setting so early. It's like it
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  Speaker 1: really it wasn't candlelight, but it felt like candle light.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like looking over people trying to see your face.
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  Speaker 1: I got little glimpses, and of course like seeing your
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  Speaker 1: face watching her was was one of my favorite parts.
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  Speaker 1: And then I loved the rehearsal dinner with all the speeches,
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  Speaker 1: particularly both sets of parents. Speeches were just they were wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: They had such great stories and they're just there's there
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  Speaker 1: were everything you'd imagine Ben Higgins Ben Higgins wedding uh
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  Speaker 1: speech to be like, you know, even though you were
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  Speaker 1: the one giving that giving it like it was like
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  Speaker 1: you all over it just like warm and wonderful and hey,
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  Speaker 1: Ben's not perfect. Tries really hard. Yeah, I love no,
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  Speaker 1: I said. I said the line was Ben's not perfect,
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  Speaker 1: but he tries really hard, and I was like, that's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I need. He just he just dries well. Actley.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you were the only person from the Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: World at the rehearsal, Um, but we shared a lot
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  Speaker 1: of life together now, I mean we've been doing this
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  Speaker 1: podcast together for so many years. Um, we've seen a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ups and downs, you know, through relationship, through life,
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  Speaker 1: through struggles, through you know, wondering where this goes. So
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  Speaker 1: that was special to have you there. And it was
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  Speaker 1: really special to have Jared fly from King Kong to
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  Speaker 1: to even be at the wedding because that was not easy,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, it's just been a lot to see him.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, So the wedding itself was wonderful at every
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  Speaker 1: level for us. I mean it's it's such an amazing day, uh,
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  Speaker 1: full of celebration leading up to even the weekend ahead.
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  Speaker 1: We got to you know, obviously have the pursl which
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  Speaker 1: was beautiful and um so so intimate, and then I
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  Speaker 1: got to have all of my buddies, uh stay at
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  Speaker 1: the venue. There was a separate house at Cherokee Docks
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  Speaker 1: where we got married where they got to stay with
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  Speaker 1: me and kind of celebrate with me and send me off. Well, Um,
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  Speaker 1: the venue was perfect, Cherokee Docks and uh, just north
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  Speaker 1: of Nashville, Tennessee. Was the best thing you I could
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  Speaker 1: have thought of. Uh. And then the Jordan Con Orchestra
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  Speaker 1: with the Taylor Pace band was the band that played.
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  Speaker 1: And Taylor Pace and his crew, I mean, Ashley, come on,
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  Speaker 1: are they not one of the best bands we had,
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Con. You had Jordan Con, I know, and they're
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  Speaker 1: both is incredible, Yes, they're They're amazing. They had five
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  Speaker 1: hours people were dancing. Um. But the ceremony so that
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  Speaker 1: the details of the ceremony were this. We had three officiants,
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  Speaker 1: each one of them from different stages in our life,
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  Speaker 1: which I really liked in the way that you did
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  Speaker 1: it really worked. It wasn't weird to have three different
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  Speaker 1: ones really good, not at all. It was her family's
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  Speaker 1: pastor that started because we wanted m her dad j
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  Speaker 1: to be able to send off Jessica to his friend
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  Speaker 1: like standing out there. And then after that was a
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  Speaker 1: buddy of my named Chad Bergman, who was a pastor
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  Speaker 1: out here in Denver for years. He no longer lives here,
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  Speaker 1: but he's stayed a tremendous friend of mine then has
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  Speaker 1: had a huge impact in Jessica and I his relationship.
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  Speaker 1: And then the final one was Denny Wilson, who's from Warsaw,
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  Speaker 1: who is my pastor growing up and also uh one
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  Speaker 1: of my parents best friends. And so it worked. We
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  Speaker 1: didn't know if it would. We just knew we wanted
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  Speaker 1: them involved and if it didn't work, it didn't work,
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  Speaker 1: but we wanted them all involved in it, and it
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  Speaker 1: did work. Um, I was I was very composed. I
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  Speaker 1: thought up until the moment where Jessica did her vows
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  Speaker 1: and she ended it with a lifetime with you wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be long enough, and I lost it, Like it just
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  Speaker 1: to have somebody look across at you and tell you
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  Speaker 1: that and mean it. I know from the depths of
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  Speaker 1: her soul is something so incredible, like to have another
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  Speaker 1: human look at you and say I love you and
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  Speaker 1: I like you so much that the rest of my
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  Speaker 1: life is not long enough with you. Um really like
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  Speaker 1: took my like it took every it took everything out
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  Speaker 1: of me, like it just did. It just sucked, like
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  Speaker 1: it was like I was filling at that moment, I
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  Speaker 1: felt like I was I was filling up with something whole,
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  Speaker 1: brand new. I've loved her, and I've loved her for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, and I know she loved me, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we've been sharing life together for years now.
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  Speaker 1: But there was something about that moment in particular that
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  Speaker 1: that hit hard for me. It did, um. So then
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  Speaker 1: I did my vows. I was able to keep it together. UM.
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  Speaker 1: I had written him, you know, off and on for
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of months, and they've changed a little
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  Speaker 1: bit as time's gone on and as different things have happened.
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  Speaker 1: But I really in those people at the wedding, where like,
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  Speaker 1: how how did you go about right in your vows?
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  Speaker 1: And really I did it was this I thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what uh does the I wanted to write in three sections,
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  Speaker 1: what does the world think of Jessica? Like, how can I,
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  Speaker 1: in this moment in front of so many friends and
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  Speaker 1: family tell her how she's seen and how people feel
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  Speaker 1: about her? And then also the next section was what
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  Speaker 1: does Jessica do for me as a man? Like? What
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  Speaker 1: does she do for me in our partnership? And then
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  Speaker 1: the final was what are we gonna do together? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: And what can I do for her. And I told
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  Speaker 1: her before the week before the wedding, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: make many promises in my vows because you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna keep all of them. Some
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  Speaker 1: of them I am, But I'm not gonna get up
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  Speaker 1: there and say, hey, I'm always gonna be happy or hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm always gonna stand by your side, because I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I might get weak and fail and fail her at
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  Speaker 1: some level. So I really want to communicate to her
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  Speaker 1: that I'm gonna do my best to be her best
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  Speaker 1: partner possible, that I'm gonna love her with everything I got.
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  Speaker 1: UM that, yeah, a lifetime with her is not long
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  Speaker 1: enough either, And UM, it was special. The vows are
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  Speaker 1: something that I'll never forget looking at her and be
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  Speaker 1: able to do that, and then looking out at the
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  Speaker 1: crowd and seeing people from the Bachelor world, people from
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  Speaker 1: my childhood, people from my my first job in Denver,
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  Speaker 1: family and friends, grandparents, Um, sitting out there in this
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  Speaker 1: beautiful tent that we got married in. UM, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know for those that get married or for those who
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  Speaker 1: have this moment like it, it's something super sacred and uh,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's I don't know, there's there's there's
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  Speaker 1: not many words you can put behind that feeling of
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  Speaker 1: just being feeling so supported. M hmm, yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I've told you this, but it's like unfortunate
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  Speaker 1: that you'll never get all those people in a room
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  Speaker 1: together ever again. I know, I know. But that's why.
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  Speaker 1: Also we wanted them dancing and sell a braining because
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  Speaker 1: if we're gonna get him in one room once, we
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  Speaker 1: wanted to celebrate, like this is a celebration. We want
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  Speaker 1: to make that very clear. This is a great thing,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is not you know, just can I
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  Speaker 1: losing our lives. In fact, uh, my freedoms and my
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  Speaker 1: ability to dream has gotten greater when Jessica is in
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  Speaker 1: my life. And I hoped she would say the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: And so we wanted this to be a celebration because
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  Speaker 1: if you're gonna have everybody there once, let's make magic happen.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you actually can attest. For five hours,
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  Speaker 1: people danced five hours straight. People were dancing and drinking
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  Speaker 1: and eating and celebrating. Um, we didn't get to say
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  Speaker 1: hi to everybody, and we definitely didn't get to have
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  Speaker 1: any intimate conversations with anybody there. Um. But hopefully as
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  Speaker 1: our life continues, those people will still be around for
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  Speaker 1: us to have those conversations with, just not in a
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  Speaker 1: room full of people that we would love to be
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  Speaker 1: talking to. So you had four people there, you didn't
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  Speaker 1: get to say hi to everyone? Are you still happy
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  Speaker 1: that you had such a big wedding? I am? I am,
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  Speaker 1: because there's still even people that I wish we could
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  Speaker 1: have invited that we didn't get to. Um. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think there's pros and cons. The cons are that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you don't, but even if we had fifty people there,
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  Speaker 1: we wouldn't be didn't. Yeah I had, and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: say hi to half of them because Jared and I
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  Speaker 1: did a thing where it was you go say hi
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  Speaker 1: to your side, I'll say how to my side? If
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  Speaker 1: I haven't met the people on your side, today is
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  Speaker 1: not the day for me to meet them. It's not
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  Speaker 1: because it's hard to talk. It's hard to dig in
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  Speaker 1: because there's always somebody pulling you in a different direction
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  Speaker 1: to And one thing I promised Jessica was if we
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  Speaker 1: had a big wedding, I would make sure that we
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  Speaker 1: got time to dance together. And so you know that
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  Speaker 1: at at some point in time we said we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go dance together, We're gonna get up and just have fun.
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  Speaker 1: We did and so unfortunately, like yes, some people we
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  Speaker 1: didn't get say hi too. But again I hope that
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  Speaker 1: as life moves on now outside the wedding, we see
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  Speaker 1: those people and we can talk to about our wedding,
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  Speaker 1: we can talk to about life, we can catch up
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  Speaker 1: with him. Um. But yeah, it didn't matter the size,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to say hi to everybody. Anyways. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: how about that garter toss? Talking about a moment that
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  Speaker 1: you guys had together on the dance floor. Was that good?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we didn't do that and it is.
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  Speaker 1: It was so funny to watch it. The dress feel
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  Speaker 1: like yeah, like, how did you feel doing that in
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  Speaker 1: front of everyone? Well, Jesskin knew this. Um, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like thrilled about it like I was. Well, I was
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  Speaker 1: nervous about you know, it just looks funny, like you're
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  Speaker 1: sticking want to do it for a traditional sake? Well
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do it. There wasn't that. I just
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  Speaker 1: was like anxious about the idea of like, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: putting my head up her wedding dress in front of
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  Speaker 1: four hundred of our friends and family, like that's ah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a very intimate moment. And and so finally I
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  Speaker 1: just decided maybe it was like one one shot at
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  Speaker 1: tequila or something. I just said, I'm just gonna do it,
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  Speaker 1: like there's no like, just go after it. And so
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  Speaker 1: I did. I went up and I grabbed it with
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  Speaker 1: my teeth because I've seen that done before. I've never
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  Speaker 1: been taught on how to do it. I really it
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  Speaker 1: off and then I flung it in the back. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: it feels weird, Like I mean, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I'll ever get to the age. You know, my parents
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  Speaker 1: are pretty open like about like they're like romance, Like
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  Speaker 1: they joke about it, they laugh about it. It's always
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  Speaker 1: been something I've grown up with, like they don't shy
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  Speaker 1: away from it. And so I, you know, I I
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  Speaker 1: guess I'm very comfortable like joking about that because you're
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  Speaker 1: you're married. That happens um. But I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I ever get to the age where I feel super
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  Speaker 1: comfortable like with physical intimacy in front of friends and family,
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  Speaker 1: Like I just don't know beyond like a little kiss,
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  Speaker 1: like yeah. Yeah, Like I'm not trying to get hot
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  Speaker 1: and heavy in a room full of people, ever talk
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  Speaker 1: in detail parents. Yeah, there's some people who talk about
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  Speaker 1: sex with their parents so openly, and I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: will never be like that. Just the fact that we
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  Speaker 1: talked about like conception of the day it may have
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  Speaker 1: happened was just far enough. But I definitely am not
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  Speaker 1: as at all closed off as some of these guys
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  Speaker 1: in the Bachelorette episode were, which like they didn't talk
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  Speaker 1: they don't talk to their parents about romance or feelings
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  Speaker 1: at all. No, And I mean that was shocking to me. Shocking.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, my extent to extent, like my
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  Speaker 1: parents didn't know every day I had in college. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't know every person that I've hung out with. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't know you know always even like some of
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  Speaker 1: my most massive like heartbreaks, you know, they were there
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  Speaker 1: for some of them, like ironically, just like randomly in
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  Speaker 1: the same place as I was when I got them.
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  Speaker 1: And even then, you know, I didn't go into detail
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  Speaker 1: with him, but I I mean usually there's just like
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  Speaker 1: one or two people that I would And your parents
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  Speaker 1: have this thing where like they're so protective of you
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  Speaker 1: like they're obviously going to choose your side, and most things,
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  Speaker 1: most parents would that. You know, you want them to
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  Speaker 1: love on you. You wanted to be there, Um, but
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  Speaker 1: like sharing the details of the good and the bad
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  Speaker 1: doesn't always feel helpful because they're gonna come at it
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  Speaker 1: from one angle and that's you know, in support of you.
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  Speaker 1: And so yeah, unless unless you're Jared, they're like, do
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  Speaker 1: you tell him how wonderful he is? Do you know
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  Speaker 1: how lucky you are already? Well, great, let's go, let's
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: get back to the wedding. Um, anything else about the
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: wedding itself that you want to mention before we go
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: on to more of the honeymoon portion. Yeah, I mean,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: uh so. One thing we did was a suggestion from
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: everybody we talked to was, and this is for anybody
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: out there, take a moment and look around the ceremony
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: is the best time to do it. Like take a breath,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: look around it, Like take a moment and just soak
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: in all the eyes looking at you and all the
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: souls and the beat people that are sitting in your audience.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: That's a big deal. We did that. Then after the ceremony,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: we did go and spend fifteen to twenty minutes and
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: we just eight together. Um, nothing else really happened. We
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: just literally sat down eight and had to drink and
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: just were like, Holy cow, it's happening. We're at our
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: this is going on. And then we walked out into
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the reception and we danced. Um, Jessica and I danced
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: to a song by Cody Johnson called on My Way
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: to You, Uh. And the whole reason we chose that
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: is because if you listen to words, it just talks
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: about this guy Um who has this beautiful girl now
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: in his life, and it tells the story of him.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: All the kisses he's had, all the heartbreaks he's had,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: all the people he's hurt, all the stupid things he's done,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: have all led him to this amazing human. And that
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: song felt like it matched us, Like, you know, Jessica
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: is about his um. She's just a great human like her.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Her scars and wounds that she's caused other people and
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: herself are a lot less than mine. And somehow, you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: at the end of it all, I get to marry her.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: And so that song really felt good to us, and
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: it still feels great to us. We still dance to
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it um and when it is always gonna have a
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: special place in our hearts. So, uh, that was the wedding.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And then after the wedding, we left on a pontoon
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and uh and it was amazing, actually, let me tell
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you this. So it was a big deal for Jessica's
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: mom to get me a pontoon to leave from because
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I grew up on a lake and I just love
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the pontoon. So it's like ten thirty and night we
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: get in this pontoon. It's freezing. So we stepped back
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: in the back with the two captains, Captain Trippi and
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Captain Jesse, and they really don't have any They're great,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: like so nice, but they don't have any like sentiment
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: for it being our wedding night. They're just like they're
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: talking to us about fishing. Uh. They're talking and they
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: take a huge lap around the lake, like showing us
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: all the different things of the lake, which was awesome.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Jesse is like, I'm freezing. She's in her wedding dress
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: like looking so beautiful, sitting in the back of a
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: pontoon with Trippy and Jesse. And then Trippy and Jesse
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: dropped us off back at the venue at the mansion
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: because we actually stayed there, um, which nobody knew because
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: there was you know, this man in his Reba McIntyre's
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: house three years ago. Huge beautiful, and so we actually
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: stayed in Reba's master bedroom. Um, so cool. So that
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: was like the one thing I was curious about. I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: was like, what's in that house? Though? I want to
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: see inside the house? Okay, so you guys stay that
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: there was like your honeymoon. That's so cool. Insane movie theater, arcade,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: weightlifting room, three story closet that has like the dry
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: cleaner machine going up at three story yes, yeah, leading
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: up to her master bedroom. Like insane stuff. Ash But
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: it's just a venue now, not a venue. But if
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: anybody's getting married, just a venue. But if anybody is
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: getting married in Nashville, I'm telling you this place is legit.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: It was alright. So before we get into part two
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: of of the wedding festivities, let's take a quick break
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and let them we anticipation linger m h Okay, So
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: wedding night, Eastad and I debated it a little, well,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: we didn't really debate it, were like wondered. We pondered
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: because of couples don't really do anything on their wedding
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: night because they're so tired. Um, this is like a
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: real stat or. I remember this stat um. I of
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: course had to be traditional about it. I was like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I don't care how tired or like, you know, tradition,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, um, I'm not going
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: to ask you blatantly, but I'll say, when you guys
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: got back to your room, did you sleep or like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: did it take a while to sleep? I don't know
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: if you could ever say it takes a while. Um,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: but actually after three three years, Um, no, we didn't sleep. Um,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: but it was really fun, like we had a So
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: this is what happened. We went back, um, went upstairs. Uh,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and then um, we weren't tired yet, like our adrirenaline
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: was so high. Well there's that too. That's why, Like
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I don't really know if I could buy the whole
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: like your tired thing. If you're tired, then maybe you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: like went to like an after party with like friends
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and you got back at three. I don't know, but
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I I did not feel tired. No, did you notice
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that we closed our wedding down at ten thirty? Because
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Jessica and I are like, I don't care if it's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: our wedding or not. When eleven o'clock rose around, we're
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: done with the day. Oh totally. I mean you and
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I have similar mentalities on that. I think Jared and
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I were out because it was like eleven thirty, but
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not hanging out with anybody afterward.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: It is our wedding night. Yeah that's and we're gonna
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: carry me across the threshold. Did you carry her? I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: did carry I actually carried upstairs. I didn't do that's
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: good at me and I have a bad knee. Um.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Actually I didn't carry up the stairs. I carried her
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: in the bedroom. Yeah, she's tiny, little girl. Um. And
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: then we went down to the kitchen because here's here's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the dream mash. So once everything was done, um, we
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: went downstairs. Uh. And the catering company had filled up
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the refrigerator in the in the house with all of
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the leftover pizza and cheeseburgers, not knowing, and so Jessica
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: and I loaded up. We we microwaved everything available. We
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: opened up another bottle of line, had a drink, um,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: and just sat in this massive house with just the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: two of us, and we're like we're married, and like
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: we're a couple, and now we're connected in a way
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: we haven't ever been. And it was just really like
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it was a really fun evening and we stayed up
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: probably till one thirty talking and eating and drinking and laughing. Um,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it was. It was a special night. I
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: would say, I'm shocked that the couples go to bed.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I want to look back on our wedding night and
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: at least like have as a marker uh far relationship.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: But also I'd recommend doing something fun too, like without
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you know, if you can get away from the cross
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: for a bit, like just like us, eating at that
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: kitchen table together afterwards will be something we remember forever,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: like forever and ever. Okay, So then you left for
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: your honeymoon to Samet Barts. How you see, Sat Bart's
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: not Sat Barts, it's St bartholomy is the island. Um
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: it's best known as St. Barts. But I'm sure people
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: out there like St Bartholomy So um. We ended up
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: going back to her parents house the next day, so
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: we helped load up the cars. Her family had stayed
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: up near the venue that night, and then we went
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: back to her house and my parents and her extended
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: family because she has an Italian family that's massive. We
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: all had like a late brunch at her parents house
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and then just watch football. I was exhausted and we
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you know, we got a our COVID test done that
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: day for our flight the next day, and then we
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: went to bed early and we rested because we had
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: an early flight. We left it like six o'clock in
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the morning at a Nashville to go to St. Bart's,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: uh and start a honeymoon, which Ashley, I'm telling you. St.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Bart's is unlike any island in the Caribbean. So you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: most of the time you go to a Caribbean island
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and some of the stuff I love most about a
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Cribbean island is you go and you get a cheeseburger
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and a fish sandwich and you sit on the beach. Well. St.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Barts is set up to be like this very fancy
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: place with like Michelin star restaurants, five star resorts, huge houses.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: That's why you always hear all these celebrities going to St. Bart's.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's so different. But my favorite part of
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the honeymoon outside of the obvious um was was there
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: like supposed to be a witk there? Nice um was.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: We stayed at a resort called La Bar Thelamy and
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: it was just beautiful, a little resort only like fifty rooms.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Uh we a little private pool. You walk right of
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: our room onto the beach, and the sea turtles were
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: in the bay that our resort was on. And so
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: every day I got the snorkel with sea turtles. That's
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: so cool. It was so magical, Jessica. I went out
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: snorkeling one day. We saw five sea turtles and I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: promise you one of them looked at us and waved.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I promise you that. So finding Nemo. What was up
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: with that burger with like the most massive amount of
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: cheese I've ever seen? Yeah, so one of the things
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: we'll find out in St. Bart's is there's nothing. Nothing
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: comes cheap. And so this burger was like thirty bucks.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: You know, it's our honeymoon, So what are you gonna do? Yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you didn't think about it, Yeah, but we um this
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: was at the resort. Labar told me had this burger
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and it was it's like known for this like foamy beer, cheese,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: jalapeno cheese, just like soaking over the burger. And I'm
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: telling you it was good and like especially on your
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: honeymoon after you've I guess I didn't watch my way
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: or you know, work out as much because my knee.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: But like you know, Jessica was very very strict on
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: her diet and her exercise plan, and she hadn't drank
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: for two months before the wedding, so like her devouring
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a cheeseburger was like heaven from my eyes. I want
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to see. Um. But we we just toured the island.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: We hiked a lot. Uh. We we took We went
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: out to incredible dinners every night. We you guys, hung
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: out at the same same bar every night. Every night
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: we went back to La Barthelmy and had an espresso martini. Um.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: One the night we went to Italian restaurant. Here's a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: good story. And Jessica, who is so tiny and can't
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: handle much alcohol, we had martiniz and we shared a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: bottle of wine and she went back and we gotta
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: espresso martini and I have a video on my front.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: She she didn't she didn't feel well. Let's say that. Yeah, um,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: but she got but it was it was like you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I've never seen her do that before in my life. Um,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: but there was something about the honeymoon whereas like we
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: just wanted to like have no worries, like we just
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and like it was all in good fun and yeah
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: she she felt awful. Um, but I have these videos
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: on my phone and we have this like we have
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: these memories. Now. I don't know, as there's something there's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: something really cool about being married and now having marriage memories.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Does it feel different? Saying does it feel different? It
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: feels different? Um, it does? We you know, we spend
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: a ton of time together in Denver, Uh, probably every
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: day of our lives if I'm not traveling, and there's
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: something about now that feels different. And this is how
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I explained it to somebody before. When we're engaged, there's
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: something in my mind that was always saying like I'm
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: planning this or she's playing this because we're engaged, and
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: now ever anything we do that's big, we're doing it
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: together as a married couple. Like I'm not thinking five
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: years down the road now. I guess I had a
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: little bit of this when we're engaged, but now when
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I think five years down the road, I know she's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: gonna be there, like I know, she's gonna be my
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: side like we were. We were, we were in it,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and so we're making these decisions together, we're going through
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: life together, we're living together and for all looking together.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And you know, when I go on vacation now, I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: want her there because I want my friend there. I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: want my lover there like I want her with me,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And so it does feel different, um, and and you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: you know, and I think it always will. Speaking about
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: living together, were you still you were not living in
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: that house that you're recording from. Technically were off and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: on at the end of it. So I had I've
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: had renters come into my other house and so I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: had to pick up and go, but I wasn't home.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: So for the last you know, really after my surgery,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: we had my parents um out here, and then uh,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Jessica was gone. She was in Nashville pretty much preparing
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: for this wedding. So not really um, but kind of
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: if we're like, hey, we'd never like I never was
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: like living at this house. I got most of my
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: stuff here, all of my stuff here, I guess, um
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: because the Renterests had moved in. So yeah, pretty much,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say it wasn't like a it
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: was a slow transition, but it was it was necessary.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know what else we could have done, um
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: as we were like leaving for the last three weeks,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: just you know, with two mortgages. So yeah, we had to. Okay,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: my last question, do you have any like post wedding,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: post honeymoon depression about it all being over? Yeah? I do, Um,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I do. I it would be great if we could
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: have that all the time. And I want people that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: came there to who our wedding to know just how
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: much it meant to us. And we talked about it
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: still every night, and it's weird that it's over because
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: there's so much prep and planning going on. Yeah, I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: would say I didn't think I would. I was really
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: thinking that, like I wanted to Jessica to have the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: most beautiful wedding of her life, but I ended up
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: having some of the most fun of my life. And
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm sad that that night is over. Yeah,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: well yeah I am when I say that, Like you
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: live through memories, like you really do. Like sometimes I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: can just like almost feel like I'm there again, and
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: you'll look at pictures and videos and all that. Obviously
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: it's not the same, but it's not the same. It's
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: one of the most vivid memories you'll ever have. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: would I would, I would have to say it is
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: at this point it always will be. But then even
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: this ash um and we can close up here because
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: we talked a lot about me and Jesse and I. Um,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you know, we just decorated our Christmas tree when Christmas.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about that. Yeah, for the
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: for our first one ever. We never did it when
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: we were dating, um, because we weren't in the same place.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: So we went down. We got to permit. State of
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Colorado gives these permits out to go into like over
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: uh you know, tree populated areas and cut down a
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: tree because it helps deforestation and it helps wildfires. So
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: we did that. We've got really over zealous. We picked
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a massive tree that I'm looking at right now, um
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: on not on purpose, just because it was beautiful. And
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: then we've decorated the last two nights and I put
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Christmas lights out around our house. Um. I've never done
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that in my life, and so you know, I'm feeling
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: very married. Well, that's like such a nice, cool time
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to get married, such a cozy time of year. It is,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: it is, But there is one story that I'd like
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: to share that nobody knows yet. I'm currently struggling with it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Um And yeah, and if any um people listening have
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: ever done this and I have any advice for me,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: please write us, um, it would mean a lot. On
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: our honeymoon, we were snorkeling one day and I got
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: caught in a shallow area and stepped on a sea urchin.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And it is in my foot still. I wish I
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: could show you it. Um. There's like probably ten different
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: spikes in my big toe and in my foot and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: it's getting really swollen. And I can't tell if they're
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: like pushing out and like trying to leave my body
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: or if they're just getting like infected. But they hurt
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: like the dickens, and um, I need advice on how
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to get them out. They don't even look like splinters
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: or anything like. They look like you have a little
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: bit maybe a little bruising. Yeah, it's like bruising, and
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: but you can see dots where like you can see
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: where where they're at. But it's like so sworn around there,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: so that didn't ruin our trip, but it definitely didn't
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: help the hiking, which we really wanted to do, and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: like all of that stuff, we fought through it. Um.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, if anybody has any advice on what you
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: can do, that would be really helpful. I mean, should
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: you get the doctor, I don't know, Well that could
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: be good at it would be nice. Maybe that's the
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: advice we'll get. We'll go to the doctor. Well. Hey, Um,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: pictures will be posted to the wedding. Um, they're not
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: done yet, obviously, they're they're getting edited all that stuff.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I'll start posting on social media, so for anybody watching,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: we'll share some with the almost famous family. Uh, it's
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: been super fun leading up to this wedding. We're now married.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Jessica and I are very happy and we're very excited
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to be back. I've missed the podcast. I don't like
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: getting on Instagram and seeing new faces. I mean, it's
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: been a lot of new faces. I've been gone a
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: lot and so um, we're back better than ever. Um.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Ready to break down this week's episode of the Bachelorette.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Right after take a break, We're here with episodes seven
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  Speaker 1: of Michelle's season of the Bachelorette. We are down to hometowns,
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  Speaker 1: which we say every year, but a little interesting nugget,
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  Speaker 1: just for those who haven't been listening, When you get
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  Speaker 1: to hometowns, you're actually halfway through the recording of the season,
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  Speaker 1: and so the final four actually get a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time a month a month with the lead, where before
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  Speaker 1: you know you're filtering through. So for us, we're like
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  Speaker 1: this episode seven, it feels like it's moving so fast.
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  Speaker 1: Well now it slows down when you're within it, and
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  Speaker 1: so you see relationships really start to get stronger after hometowns.
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  Speaker 1: There's a reason why you're spending a few days a
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  Speaker 1: week with them. You're going to a bunch of dates
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  Speaker 1: with all these people. But we're down the hometowns, and
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  Speaker 1: Michelle kicks it off with actually take it away, brand
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  Speaker 1: it Brandon's hometown. Um, he wants to bring Portland to Michelle.
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  Speaker 1: He's just lived there his whole life, twenty seven years,
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  Speaker 1: and she he takes her to a skateboard rink, wants
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  Speaker 1: to get her out of her comfort zone. Um, he
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  Speaker 1: loves skateboarding. It's there's like nothing to say about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's cute, it's fun, but the important part is that
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  Speaker 1: she gets to meet his family later on that night,
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  Speaker 1: and she meets his brother, who ends up delaying his
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  Speaker 1: his like deployment with the Navy, just to meet Michelle,
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  Speaker 1: and then his mom and his dad. And keep in
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  Speaker 1: mind that Michelle did meet that that Brandon did get
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  Speaker 1: to meet Michelle's parents last week, and she said she
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  Speaker 1: he passed that test with flying color, so she was
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  Speaker 1: kind of nervous about doing the same with his family.
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  Speaker 1: There wasn't like a ton of depth to the conversations.
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  Speaker 1: I'd say that, Um, Michelle loved the fact that she's
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  Speaker 1: gonna take on his dad in basketball. It was fun
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  Speaker 1: to be able to talk about something lighthearted like that.
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  Speaker 1: And then Brandon said to his mom that Michelle is
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  Speaker 1: one of the strongest women he's ever met. Um. So
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  Speaker 1: like anything that, anything that stood out to you here,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think we stood out to me was
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  Speaker 1: and maybe it was just me, um, and you can
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  Speaker 1: disagree with me. I saw a new side of Brandon
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  Speaker 1: during this day, Like he felt a lot more relaxed,
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  Speaker 1: a lot less let's say, polished, like he was he
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  Speaker 1: was maybe just even how he was articulating himself, like
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  Speaker 1: he was just joking around he wasn't, you know, fumbling
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  Speaker 1: for words. He was just kind of having a good
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  Speaker 1: time with her. And I did see that change. Outside
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  Speaker 1: of that and his comfortability with her. Um No, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there was anything mind boggling. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: there's anything that stood out. I do think if I
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  Speaker 1: was to rank her connection with the parents, this would
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  Speaker 1: be probably the second best connection with the parents out
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  Speaker 1: of any of them. Um I felt like it wasn't bad,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't good, But I do feel like the parents
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  Speaker 1: during this this segment or this episode of this year,
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  Speaker 1: we're just a lot more hesitant than most years. Like
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  Speaker 1: you didn't have your bachelor's super fan like parents that
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I'm so nervous. Like all
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  Speaker 1: the parents felt comfortable, I mean, just to be themselves
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  Speaker 1: and they weren't pushing anything too hard, and they were
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  Speaker 1: mostly worried about their sons. They were all kind of
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  Speaker 1: even killed. They all kind of blend in together. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be honest, because nobody really made a big stink.
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  Speaker 1: There is no one when you're where you were like,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, I don't want that to be my mother
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  Speaker 1: in law or father in law or anything like that
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  Speaker 1: nobody overly intimidating. The biggest standout comment or conversation was
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  Speaker 1: probably Nate's dad, stepdad, saying that he was probably not
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  Speaker 1: ready for an engagement, but we'll get that, We'll get
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  Speaker 1: down there. There's a lot there in that meeting between
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  Speaker 1: the two of them to talk about. Most most things
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  Speaker 1: to say about this episode, I think fall into that
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  Speaker 1: last fourth definitely. Yeah. So up next we had Rodney's
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  Speaker 1: hometown date. Uh. Rodney is somebody that it feels like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people in America fall in love with.
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  Speaker 1: It's obvious why he's He's been very nice, very charming,
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  Speaker 1: very sweet. He's felt like the underdog all season, even
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  Speaker 1: though none of us here believed he was. Ashley, though,
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to his hometown date, as we let
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  Speaker 1: her find out, it just didn't hit And why do
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  Speaker 1: you believe that? I think it was just that romantic
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  Speaker 1: connection not necessarily being there. Fully, she definitely liked him
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  Speaker 1: as a best friend, definitely like laughing with him. She
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  Speaker 1: brought that up on multiple occasions, But I just feel
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  Speaker 1: like the romance wasn't necessarily there for her. And it
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  Speaker 1: was really funny because this is one of those time
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  Speaker 1: rare times where like I actually think that that last
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  Speaker 1: scene behind the credits was very telling and it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: just a joking scene. It was written all over her
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  Speaker 1: face to me that she was over it. When he
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get the lines down for their little chef show,
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  Speaker 1: their food their food show, you can see like frustration
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  Speaker 1: where I think that if you really were into the person,
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  Speaker 1: you'd be cracking up alongside with them. But she was
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  Speaker 1: like no, like I want to get this done. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there was like she was like irritated, and I trust me,
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  Speaker 1: Jess gets irritated with me. But and Jared has had moments,
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  Speaker 1: oh me recording an insto story an ad on Instagram?
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? He's like, you have done that
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  Speaker 1: fifteen times. It's not cute anymore. But at this stage
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  Speaker 1: in the relationship probably should maybe still be cute. It
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  Speaker 1: definitely should be. I do think it was telling. You're right,
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  Speaker 1: the romantic connection just wasn't there. However, I do believe
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  Speaker 1: Rodney still belonged in the top four. I do believe
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  Speaker 1: that he made progress. Michelle and Rodney made progress in
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  Speaker 1: their relationship. Um, she felt very excited to see him.
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  Speaker 1: But it is interesting, like during your hometown dates, you
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  Speaker 1: have to start asking yourself that question of like who
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  Speaker 1: could I possibly get engaged to? Or who do I
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  Speaker 1: want to leave this whole thing with? Might be the
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  Speaker 1: better way to say that. And when you start asking
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  Speaker 1: yourself those questions in the midst of these dates, there's
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  Speaker 1: a there is a little bit more of a heaviness
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  Speaker 1: to it. And maybe when she started asking that, sitting
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  Speaker 1: across from Rodney, She's just like, no, but this isn't it,
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  Speaker 1: Like this isn't my guy. Um, And maybe she felt
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  Speaker 1: that that way about somebody else here. But for Rodney
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  Speaker 1: it was enough for him to end up going home.
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  Speaker 1: But his hometown date was fine. It was fun. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, Rodney is such a lovable,
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  Speaker 1: warm character. I don't know exactly where that came from,
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  Speaker 1: because I expected his family to be very like loud
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  Speaker 1: and boisterous and like huggy and loving. I didn't felt
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  Speaker 1: like that as much, but um, but it was. It
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  Speaker 1: was another kind of fine hometown date, and it nothing
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  Speaker 1: stood out to me. Nope, I agree, all right, So
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  Speaker 1: let's move on to Joe's, which I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: have a little bit more to say, just because there
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  Speaker 1: was just such a lack of conversation. It was silly.
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  Speaker 1: The producers must have been like, if that's what the
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  Speaker 1: producers were able to get out of them, they must
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  Speaker 1: have been struggle buzzing for a couple hours that they
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  Speaker 1: were sitting down there just because the guys in the
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  Speaker 1: family seemed so shy, well, or do you just think
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  Speaker 1: it was lack of interest confusion, Like where do you
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  Speaker 1: think that was coming from? No, I think with Joe's family,
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  Speaker 1: it was shyness, like Joe even sad, like you'll hit
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  Speaker 1: it off with Hannah, and Hannah was definitely needed. That's
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  Speaker 1: the sister in law. It was definitely needed there for
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  Speaker 1: commentary reasons because the brother and the dad just had
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  Speaker 1: nothing to contribute. And I don't think that that was
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  Speaker 1: in a and I don't care about this type of way.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was really like, oh my gosh, there
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  Speaker 1: are so many cameras and lights and frozen and plus
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about emotions and my son's romantic life. This
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  Speaker 1: is like all but out of my comfort zone. Isn't
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  Speaker 1: this the day? Isn't Joe and his dad when he
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  Speaker 1: asked his dad, dad, do you have anything else? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And he's like nope, he was like, no, you have
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  Speaker 1: to have more questions. He goes, yeah, no, I have questions,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not asking them here. And you've never I
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  Speaker 1: don't think you've ever met somebody so not nervous about
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  Speaker 1: like how they're gonna look like. He wasn't mean. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like he's going to con as like a villain
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  Speaker 1: or like the parent that like ends up starting a
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  Speaker 1: podcast afterwards because they make a name for themselves. He
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  Speaker 1: just was like, I'm good, Like I'm fine here, like
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  Speaker 1: I showed up. That's all I need to do. I've
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  Speaker 1: said hi to you, I love your son, But is
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  Speaker 1: it totally all right? Well, to reverse the timeline, they
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  Speaker 1: also end up going to prom on this date. There's
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of prom themes going on lately, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, but this one was kind of cute because
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  Speaker 1: they are from the same city and Joe never went
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  Speaker 1: to prom, and he remembered from the letter that Michelle
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  Speaker 1: shared or the poem whatever it was, that she she
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  Speaker 1: was picked last or prom, which that's just you know,
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  Speaker 1: mind blowing um. But that was cute. That was a
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  Speaker 1: cute little thing to do. And what does that mean.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really think about I thought that was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit weird. It sounds like she made it a sport,
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  Speaker 1: but really it just means that, like I guess, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people were being asked and then it was
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  Speaker 1: that got down to, oh, there's only a few more
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  Speaker 1: girls left to ask, I'll ask her. Okay, that makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah it does. I mean that's yeah, maybe I'm
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  Speaker 1: confused because shocking that Michelle wouldn't be asked to prom.
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  Speaker 1: And then also, you know, I don't remember like the
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  Speaker 1: timeline of prom, but I never remember who was pick
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  Speaker 1: last or first, or I just thought people asked each
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  Speaker 1: other and then you show up to this big room
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  Speaker 1: and everybody's there. I am m Ashley. There's an infatuation
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  Speaker 1: right now that The Bachelor has and The Bachelor it
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  Speaker 1: has food tasting, well know with high school in high school. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and like high school is a great time, uh huge
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  Speaker 1: impact in our lives, but it is that big of
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  Speaker 1: a deal to where like I mean, every we've seen
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  Speaker 1: it multiple times now, the prom, the high school thing,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, Joe's walking around being that's where I
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  Speaker 1: went to biology at and stuff. It's like that's cool,
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  Speaker 1: but high school like legit, So glad you said this
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  Speaker 1: because it is always fun to go back to your
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  Speaker 1: high school and reminisce and like look through the window, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, that my classroom looks so much different now.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe what they've done. And the smell of
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  Speaker 1: the hallways and all that stuff. But it's only cool
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  Speaker 1: and nostalgic for you that your spouse doesn't give a crap.
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  Speaker 1: Like I took Jared to my high school during COVID
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  Speaker 1: because he wanted to run around the track, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: thinking and reminiscing and this is where I did that,
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  Speaker 1: and that's where that. It's like cool, sweet, nice, and
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  Speaker 1: he does the kind of the same thing with me.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just like you're never going to understand what
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  Speaker 1: it feels like for like person, be a weird date,
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  Speaker 1: like it's just an odd day. I took Jessica to
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  Speaker 1: my old office up here in Colorado a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago. Was so excited. We drove over and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's empty right now. The office is empty. So
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  Speaker 1: we're looking through the windows and I was like, that's
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  Speaker 1: where I did that, and that's that in that was
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  Speaker 1: you know, Tyson's old desk, and there's Adam's old desk
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  Speaker 1: and Dylan's old desk, and I could tell She's just like,
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  Speaker 1: that's awesome. I have node. Yeah, I have no clue
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  Speaker 1: what that means, Like that's that sounds great, being good job.
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  Speaker 1: But Joe's date did. I did feel like, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: I could tell during that day that Joe and Michelle
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  Speaker 1: have something special. Um she even in the words that
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  Speaker 1: she used to explain him to her, to his family,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell that Joe at that moment, I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna it was gonna be a shocking exit if he
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  Speaker 1: was released on this episode. I just didn't see it
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  Speaker 1: happening because I felt like they do have something good going.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of depth there, and it feels like
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  Speaker 1: even kind of based on their history of chatting a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, there obviously is a lot of intrigue still,
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  Speaker 1: But that's how I'm going to describe their relationship is
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  Speaker 1: it's still at a level of intrigue that it's not
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  Speaker 1: quite to where I feel like in two weeks we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna watch them get engaged. They might leave this thing together,
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  Speaker 1: which should be awesome, but I still think it's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of curiosity and not as much the love and
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  Speaker 1: the connection that sometimes we see on hometowns for our
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  Speaker 1: couples that were like, oh, this is it. But that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of what how I feel about all of these guys.
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  Speaker 1: Like she keeps talking about how her connection to them,
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  Speaker 1: she like wishes that she had one connection, but now
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  Speaker 1: she's blessed with four, And I'm like, yeah, you might
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  Speaker 1: have four connections, but like, do you have like four
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  Speaker 1: people you can imagine yourself being engaged to let alone one?
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  Speaker 1: I mean she says, yes, I don't feel it through
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  Speaker 1: the TV, but then again it's just through the TV.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah. I mean if I would say right now,
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  Speaker 1: which guys are most into her, I would say name Brandon.
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  Speaker 1: I would say Nathan Brandon, but you would say brand
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  Speaker 1: in the Nate, right, I'd say Brandon and then Nate.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that I think I think Nate is
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  Speaker 1: into her, and I think she's into him, but he
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  Speaker 1: also is like the one that I would worry the
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  Speaker 1: most about it lasting long term with I get that, well, yeah, mostly,
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  Speaker 1: and we can jump into it now it's Nate's hometown day.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's where this that's where that you know
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  Speaker 1: comes from, where you worried about it lasting long time,
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  Speaker 1: any amount of time with because his family is nervous
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  Speaker 1: about the same thing that they don't know if Nate
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  Speaker 1: is ready. But Nate starts to stay out by wanting
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  Speaker 1: to bring a piece of Austin to Minnesota, and so
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  Speaker 1: they paddle board like they would uh in Austin. It's
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  Speaker 1: a very popular thing there that they, you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of had a little picnic like they would Zaker Park.
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  Speaker 1: When Michelle, during this little picnic time, starts asking Nate,
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  Speaker 1: who am I meeting and what's it gonna be? Like,
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  Speaker 1: you can tell that the emotional com open this of
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  Speaker 1: Nate in this family is not there. That's not even
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  Speaker 1: a bad thing. They just don't have that type of relationship.
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  Speaker 1: But you can tell it then, And that's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because there's lots of families like that. I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't come from a family like that. I can't imagine
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  Speaker 1: having not said I love you and not talking about
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  Speaker 1: emotions and like difficulties and all that. But it still
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  Speaker 1: seems like they're close despite that. That was that was
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  Speaker 1: the vibe that I got. So just this date, I
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  Speaker 1: just felt like it was really productive for him. I
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  Speaker 1: think she kind of said the same thing like even
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  Speaker 1: if they don't end up together, this was like a
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  Speaker 1: moment that is so important that he had that he
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  Speaker 1: had in his life to be able to say I
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  Speaker 1: love you to his stepdad for the first time. Did
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: his dad say it back? They didn't show it, but
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  Speaker 1: he said that he did, so I guess, um, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that he was most emotional about the
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  Speaker 1: family dynamic as well throughout the night and less and
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it was like Michelle was a side note, which again
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  Speaker 1: I think is totally okay in this situation. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot for your family to go into. Uh and
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  Speaker 1: when there are you know, when you're being asked to
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  Speaker 1: sit your family down and tell him about stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you've never talked to him before. In this environment with cameras,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: with people, I could see where Nate's mind would go.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I have to work on this stuff and that, like
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: in order to get to a place where they even
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: can get to know Michelle and no Michelle and eyes relationship. Yeah,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: but Michelle definitely left this date with worries concerns about
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  Speaker 1: his readiness. Yeah, well, mostly because his family told her
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  Speaker 1: straight up. Yeah, but you should be worried about this, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ready now, it's not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: relationship thing. Just because he's never had a relationship and
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: brought a girl home before. I don't think it's a
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  Speaker 1: red flag. She said that. She said that's a red flag,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: but like it's that's debatable. Did Jess ever have a
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  Speaker 1: serious relationship before you? Yeah, I didn't think so, I'm not,
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  Speaker 1: like you, not a real serious one. I think her
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  Speaker 1: parents had met a few of the people, but like
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  Speaker 1: she was known, and she always will say like she
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: was the one day wonder, like she went on one
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  Speaker 1: day and was done, and so no, she didn't. Um, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but that wasn't a red flag because like you knew
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  Speaker 1: because she knew herself so well and her family, like
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  Speaker 1: she was so comfortable with intimacy and all that. Yeah, definitely,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't a red flag. I mean there was things
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  Speaker 1: like even when her dating, she just didn't know like
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  Speaker 1: how to progress in the dating world, which like that
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, so what's the next step? So then
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: like your boyfriend and girlfriend and it's like what do
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  Speaker 1: you do? How do you do? How do you find
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  Speaker 1: things to talk about? That's the real thing. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: comes naturally, even though you have no idea that it's
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  Speaker 1: going to come naturally. No, So I don't think that's
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  Speaker 1: where it's like. I think from all of this, I
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  Speaker 1: am most nervous about Nate because of it felt like
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  Speaker 1: his family trying to say it without fully saying it
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  Speaker 1: as a long term relationship. We don't know if he's ready,
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  Speaker 1: not because he hasn't had one, but because of just
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  Speaker 1: who he is right now in his life. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know if he's ready. And uh, and that was what
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  Speaker 1: worried me most. Yeah, all right, well we'll see. They
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: definitely built it up as if he was going to
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: be on the chopping block, but that is not what happened.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: He got called second, He got called second um, which
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I don't put too much weight into, uh, but ended
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: up Rodney's going home. And Rodney was sent home in
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: an emotional exit, one that felt like he was upset
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and he was hurt. He cared a lot about Michelle.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: This had to be a great experience for him. As
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: we said a month ago, well, our hope was that
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: he would realize he's not the underdog and that he
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: would get some confidence from this thing, because I do
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: believe he felt that way, and that he would grow
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: and we'd watch it on television. I think we did.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I think we saw Rodney grow into a very confident
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: which he should be person from the time that he
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: admitted that he didn't feel like he belonged there to
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the time he got released. Yeah, yeah, he should. Definitely,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of those people that leaves the
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: show building confidence and that's gonna help him in his
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: dating life. Yeah, he's We're gonna see him thrive and
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: at least we hope so. So the sneak peak the
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Mental All is next. Um, we got to see some
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: guys who caused some controversy during the season come back
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: to the Mental All. The Bachelor is returning with Clayton.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: We get a little preview. Have they announced this yet though?
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Outside of this No, I mean yes, maybe, I have
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: no idea. I have not seen official announcement that Clayton
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: is the Bachelor. I mean, I don't know if they're
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: just not going to or what, but I haven't seen
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: it yet. He still looks super undynamic during his season,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: but I do have faith that the girls will carry it.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: We got we got some inside information that this season
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: is really good. Yes, I don't know if it's ever
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: going to be said, not that it's not good, but
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: we do hear that it's good. I don't think I
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: mean from fan of fair I don't think people are thrilled.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's because Clayton is a bad dude.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's because, Um, I'm not going to
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: really enjoy talking about this podcast. But it's just because
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think he shined in a captivating way during
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: his time on the Bachelorette, Like he didn't have his
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: one moment, even his one bachelor. They tried with his,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: They tried, they tried, and it still didn't feel genuine
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: to me because I knew that they had to do it. Yeah,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: it means. I even got a d M from somebody
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: who's a listener of the podcast and said, do you
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: think that possibly they recorded that segment after they named
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: him the Bachelor? Maybe, I mean they had to go
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: they had to really really fight for this one because
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: his he just didn't have his one moment where other
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: guys did this season, they had their one moment that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: would stand out. He didn't have it. And uh, and
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: I think the fans are confused at how he was chosen.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: So easily, but we're gonna wait and watch. I'm just
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: hoping it's a good season. The Bachelor needs a good season. Uh,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: it needs a captivating season. It needs one that we
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: can get into. I'm hoping it's it. We're gonna hold
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: our breath um for that because we we hope for it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: But that is this week's episode. Next week, we're down
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: to the final three of Michelle's season. It's Nate, It's Brandon,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: and it's Joe. Three people that are not shocking to
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: us that are still around. Uh, it was fairly expected,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: but now it gets really interesting because I don't know
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: if I could rank them, But if you had to, Ashley,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: what is your ranking of the person that you believe
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: will win this thing and be with Michelle in the end.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Do you know what's so weird? I have changed my ranking.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Brandon is number one to me now she's most in
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: all with him, and I think he's most in all
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: with her, And then I think Nate is second, and
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: then Joe is third. And I thought that based on
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: last week, Joe may have been more like a second
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: about you. I would go I'd still go Joe, then
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I go Brandon, and I'll go to Nate. I thought
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Nate's hometown. So what's the rank Brandon? Then sorry, Joe
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: number one? Okay? Really, so my number three and you're
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: number one? Yeah, okay. I just feel like there's something
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: really strong there. I don't know if it's like perfected
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: and that we can I just feel like there's something
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: really strong there. And I think they both want each other,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: which I think helps. I don't get that feeling as
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: much for the other guys. So then Brandon number two
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: and Nate number three. So it's Joe, Brandon Nate for me. Okay,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. And like I told the
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: audience last week, we are unspoiled, and it is fun
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: to be unspoiled. I haven't been spoiled in a long time, exactly.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: This is a couple of seasons in a row now
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: and it's really nice. Well, alright, let's take a break.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: We come back. What Bachelor headlines, and there are a
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: lot of them this week. First headline of this week
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: with our resident expert, Ashley I Kennetti, like Moyne's gives
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: super honest answer about whether he'd be the Bachelor Disaccording
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: to US Weekly, I don't believe his answer for Race
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: and Nidget. When asked about being the Bachelor, he said no.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: He said, I am in no way prepared to go
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: through meeting thirty women, especially after all of that. Referring
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: to what he has just been through with Katie, he goes,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: my ego is hurt right now. I feel like an
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: idiot with how things played out. When you're so sure
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: about something and you feel like you've found your rock
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden to be able to turn
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: that rock and try to find another one within a
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: time frame that we have on The Bachelorette, No. He
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: also a source also tells US Weekly that he was
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: blindsided to find out that Katie had already moved on
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: to another relationship, which we will talk about in a minute,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: with this guy John John Hersey. Now, okay, so we're
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: getting a little detail now this this interview when Blake
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: said no, he would not be um The Bachelor was
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: recorded or at least released on November, so this was
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: obviously once Katie had kind of put the stuff with
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: John out there. It's making me feel like, especially reading
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: these quotes from Blake, that he he was the one
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: broken up with do you feel like this was a
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: mutual breakup now, because I think like, if you were
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: to ask me in October, I was like, yeah, sure.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: But now, I mean, there's so much speculation as to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: what's going on. There were pictures of Blake and Katie
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: in the back of an airplane, a little prop plane
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: that John was flying with another girl, like they were
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: on a double date together, and then all of a sudden,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: thanks switch. Yeah, I'm not accusing Katie at all of cheating.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: And we do have a headline about this in a
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: little bit. That's where I'm gonna jump to is right now.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: This this goes into his next headline. Blake Moyne's mom
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: is out here liking Instagram comments about Katie Thurston's alleged deception.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: This according to Cosmos, So this is the headline that
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Blake Moyne's mom is liking Instagram comments about Katie Thurston's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: alleged deception. First off, I'm not a fan of that, Like,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: that's not okay, but that is the headline and it
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: is happening, okay. So this is one of the the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: comments that she liked. Nah, this is terrible on Katie's part.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I truly feel sorry for Blake. In any relationship, you
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: put a sense of trust in one another, especially in
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: long distance relationships, there's no denying the dishonesty and deception
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: for months upon months. And I think this fan is
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: saying this because Katie was so open about her friendship
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: with John and how much she was hanging out with him. Um.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: They also both unfollowed each other again, sources saying that
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Blake felt um blindsided. Um, yeah, so I the deception
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: part is probably that Katie had a relationship with John
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: that was like deeper and less friendly perhaps or was
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: evolving into something that was less friendly while being with Blake,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: because the timeline between the announcement of their breakup and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: the announcement of this relationship was so short. And hey,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: we've talked about it before, Ashley, how soon is too
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: soon to move on? There's no good answer to that.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: There is no good answer to that. I would say,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: what is like, you know, usually happens is a few months,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: a few weeks, whatever. But at the same time, if
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: this John guy and Katie end up in love and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: get married, then like, yeah, unfortunate for Blake, But is
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: it wrong as long as there wasn't cheating going on
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: and my point of view, no, it would be okay
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: as long as it wasn't cheating. Cheating, Yeah, as long
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: as there wasn't cheating, as long as they were actually
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: truly strictly friends until until that breakup. That breakup happened,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: and that could be possible, it could be. Well, it's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: a messy situation, obviously, batter Nation breakups are never fun. Uh.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: And Katie, you know, has kind of uh been all
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: over the place, uh with this whole thing and then
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: posting about with the Taylor Swift stuff. So the Taylor
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Swift stuff. Should I break that down a little bit? Yeah,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: go ahead, because it brings attention to kind of her
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: strategy as this breakups happened. It definitely didn't go with
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: you know, when I had my breakup, the strategy was
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay quiet. We're both gonna stay quiet, right. Um.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: You know, she moved on fast, um or fast. I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: guess she moved on fast and than I did, and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: that hurts, but you know, you can't be mad about it,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Like it just happens, like you find somebody else and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: you try your best to move on. But we stayed
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: quiet because I thought that was like the best thing.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Katie hasn't gone with that strategy good, bad, or and different.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: So Katie did this thing that we did talk about
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: last week, but I didn't have a great grasp on
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: it because she wasn't saving these stories to her like bio,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. Like, so, once they
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: were done, they were done, so I didn't see them
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: all in consecutive order, but now I have. So she
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: has this thing called twelve Days of Messy and uh.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: She basically used a different song from Taylor Swiop's Red
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: album two in a way dedicate to different guys, most
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: of them public x is. I think they might all
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: be public excess. So the first day was Day one.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: It was Blake and the song was we are Never
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: getting back Together. Okay, that's pretty blatantly obvious what she
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: was trying to say. There feels hard. Yeah, that is
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: that sounds harsh, as if like he did something wrong right,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: and maybe he did, we don't know, but yeah, if
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: definitely feels that way, like it doesn't feel like kind Yeah, okay,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: So the number two is Andrew. She's referring to Andrew
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: from her season and the song is run and the
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: basically I don't know not. This is a new one,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: so I'm not exactly sure lyrically what it what it is,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: but I do believe that's like if you were to
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: like call me back right now, like I would go
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: for it. You know, we can do this all over again.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: And then she posted a picture along with it with
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the note that she gave to Andrew saying, if you
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: change your mind, I'll be waiting. Oh that was what
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Andrew gave to her on his which time? Does that
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: feel weird considering she's at this point with somebody else, Yeah, okay,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: I'm alright. I'm just wondering. Okay. Day number three, uh
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: is Girl at Home, and that is dedicated to Aaron
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: and James. Girl at Home is the song I Know
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: you have a Girl at Home. Basically, it's about like
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to date you because I know you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: have a girl at home. Um, maybe we shouldn't go
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: through all of them because it takes can take a minute,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: but this is notable because it's Thomas, and Thomas is
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: pretty relevant right now. She uses the song I knew
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: you were trouble, you know, I knew you were trouble
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: when you walked into to Thomas Mikey Holy Ground, which
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: makes sense because he was Um the Virgin. Then we
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: have Randon she refers to, and Michael a she she uses,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I almost do, And that is a song about like
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: if the guy reaches out to you. So in the song,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: the guy reaches out to Taylor, and Taylor talks about
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: how hard it is for her to like not respond
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: because she knows that if she worded to respond that
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: it would just like this would happened again. So also
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: kind of interesting, So maybe Michael has reached out to Katie. Maybe,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: But also here to close this one up, was there
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: any about John? Okay? So you're like, okay, actually it's
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: shut up. So yes, the one about John is begin Again,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: which is the song on the album about like never
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: thinking that I was going to get over the last guy,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: but then I showed up at a coffee shop and
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I had a cute day and and you were so pleasant.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I never would have thought that I would want to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: begin again, but you make me want to. Oh my goodness. Well,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: a lot going on over there in the Katie Thurston,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Blake Moins Taylor Swift world. Obviously a lot of opinions
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: being had, but that's what we know right now. Now
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: onto a next relationship, one that is in really good spirits,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: in a really good place. But an interesting headline coming
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: from the Ben Higgins and Jessica Agan's wedding Bachelor Nations.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Dean Angler told Kalin she should propose to him. This
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: according to E, Yeah, I heard about this this week. Um,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: so so what happened here? Um, this conversation happened at
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: your wedding. Yeah, conversation happened at my wedding. Okay, So
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Derek pays fiancee. I was talking to Calin, and um,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: she said, are they married? Since you know? She asked
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Derek like, are they married because he's wearing a ring?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: And then he said, as far as the government's concerned, no,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: but as far as our hearts concerned, yes, That's what
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Dean said. And then Calin leaned over and said, will
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: be it will be engaged by trust me hm. Then
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Dean goes, I don't know if she's speaking for me
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: or if she's saying that because she's going to propose
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: to me. He says, I've made it pretty clear to her.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, if you really want to get married,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: you should be the one proposing to me. So I
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: think she's got something in the works for that. My goodness, well,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I couldn't think of it happening in any other way. Seriously,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: come on, don't put Klin in that situation. Dean. Yeah. Well, uh,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: hopefully she's confident that he would say yes. I think
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: he would. She's just going to be that guy. My
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: one of my best friends she joked for She joked
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: one night. She was like, one day, I'm going to
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: propose to you. And she made her keep that promise
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: and she did. There you go, Hey, new times, new things.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Why not? Um, But come on, Dean, if Calin wants
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: you to propose to her, if that's her desire, then
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: go for it. That's my opinion. If if she's saying
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: I want to propose you, great, whatever, But if she's asking,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: like saying, Dean, come on please, then give come on Dean. Um. Well,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: next headline is this Colton Underwood wants to find himself
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: in Coming Out Colton trailer. The quote I watched the trailer. Yeah,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: it's a good trailer. Um. The quote is I didn't
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: want to be gay. This according to US Weekly, So
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: you definitely get the vibe through watching the trailer that
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot of things addressed. One his
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: just his hesitance, is his just wanting to literally he
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: said like he would He just thought at one point
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: he would die with this secret. We are going to
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: talk about being like a football player who's gay. We're
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: going to talk about coming out to his dad, which
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: he was so so nervous about, and he does it
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: on camera on this show. And we're also going to
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: address Cassie a lot. He talks about how he totally
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: screwed her, like screwed her over um, and he just
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: treated her so poorly. He treated her poorly. Um. We
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: talked about the restraining They're going to talk about the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: restraining order in this show, and it's gonna be a lot.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: But um, it looks very intriguing to me. It does. Um,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: it does look very intriguing to me. Yeah, it looks
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: well done. Yeah, yeah, I you know there's uh. I
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: hope it's gonna help many. Um. I hope Colton is good.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: But I haven't talked to Colton in years, so I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: have no clue. But it does look intriguing. Final headline
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: of today is one kind of writing off of our
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: comments earlier, says John Hersey went on record to nine
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Katie Thurston cheated on Blake moins Is according to Cosmos.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: So at this point we do believe from everything we
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: hear and know that there was no cheating going on. Okay,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: so there's two parts to this. Blake is on was
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: on the Talking About podcast where he starts saying that,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: you know, you think about timelines, it's kind of suspicious.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: I know they spent a lot of time together and stuff,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: but there's no way I didn't have I never had
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: an inkling that they would like get together. He also said,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: I'm secure guy, I'm confident guy, and I give my
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: trust out on especially to the person I should be
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  Speaker 1: trusting the most. I really don't think there was any
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  Speaker 1: physical cheating there, but there's definitely clearly um emotional for
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  Speaker 1: it to translate as quickly as possible as quickly as
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  Speaker 1: it did. And Blake is obviously not the only one
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  Speaker 1: question this timeline, the super quick timeline, so because there's
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  Speaker 1: so many fans out there doing so. On Friday, John
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  Speaker 1: revealed that he had a lot of thoughts on the subject,
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  Speaker 1: and he wrote about these thoughts on Reddit. Sure, why
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  Speaker 1: would you go there come on almost famous podcast John
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  Speaker 1: What Okay he goes. This is where he posted a
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  Speaker 1: lengthy open letter denying any and all rumors of wrongdoing
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  Speaker 1: or infidelity. Katie and I developed an incredible and deep
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  Speaker 1: friendship over the last half a year or so. The
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  Speaker 1: circumstances by which this friendship formed was a series of crazy,
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  Speaker 1: random and coincidental events that I'm sure you'll hear all
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  Speaker 1: about at a later point. My point for now is
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  Speaker 1: that they were always platonic um. He says that he
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  Speaker 1: and Katie hadn't even had a romantic connection when he
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  Speaker 1: was actively vying for her love on the s on
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  Speaker 1: the season because he was on her season and stating
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  Speaker 1: very directly that they hadn't cheated and there was no
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  Speaker 1: wrongdoing prior to the end of her engagement. Uh. He
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  Speaker 1: also went on to address that fast and messy timeline,
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  Speaker 1: which he admitted that he and Katie knew didn't make
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  Speaker 1: for good optics. He said, I urge you to put
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  Speaker 1: yourself in our shoes. Once Katie and I realized there
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  Speaker 1: was a romantic connection that we were interested in exploring,
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  Speaker 1: we were not starting from scratch. We were building off
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  Speaker 1: of the foundation of a close friendship which through which
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  Speaker 1: we had already gotten to know each other so well.
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  Speaker 1: The speed at which I fell for this incredible, nurturing, caring,
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  Speaker 1: genuinely caring human was honestly terrifying. I was scared, but
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  Speaker 1: every step felt so right. Wow, but redd It, what
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  Speaker 1: an interesting choice, What an interesting choice. What a close
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  Speaker 1: out today's episode. We want to give a big congratulations
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  Speaker 1: to Astrid and Kevin. Um. They have revealed the baby's
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  Speaker 1: name for the first time. Uh, they clapp back at critics,
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  Speaker 1: so they didn't reveal it right away. But August William went, Um,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna call him um. Augie was born seven and
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  Speaker 1: a half pounds. Congratulations to both them on announcing the name. Also, um,
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  Speaker 1: congratulations to having their little boy. August William went, well,
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  Speaker 1: he's so cute. He's so cute. Well that's all we
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