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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the family of a missing
- 0:08Speaker 1: woman last seen running barefoot from a hotel, just told
- 0:14Speaker 1: she would be chalked into pieces and a sick ransom text.
- 0:21Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
- 0:23Speaker 1: being with us.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Leila Santanello is a young Tennessee mom living with her
- 0:27Speaker 2: boyfriend Michael and baby daughter Nova. Things take a turn
- 0:30Speaker 2: when Laila and her boyfriend get into an argument and
- 0:32Speaker 2: Layla leaves the house.
- 0:41Speaker 3: This is Leila Santanello, a young mother from Kingsport, Tennessee,
- 0:45Speaker 3: who hasn't been seen in nearly two years. Leila is
- 0:48Speaker 3: mom to now four year old Nova Grace, who now
- 0:51Speaker 3: lives with her grandmother, Jennifer Santanello. Jennifer, Layla's father George Emman,
- 0:59Speaker 3: and stepmother Britney Zeitler are all desperate to bring Laila
- 1:02Speaker 3: home and reunite her with her daughter.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Where is Layelah? Again? Thank you for being with us
- 1:08Speaker 1: tonight and our search for missing mom? Leelah? What do
- 1:13Speaker 1: we know? Joining me and Allstar panel to make sense
- 1:16Speaker 1: of what we're learning right now? But first listen to this.
- 1:20Speaker 4: She had to sit on and there was a pink
- 1:23Speaker 4: Teddy Bear exactly like literally the same color and everything.
- 1:29Speaker 4: And he was sitting in the chair and he was
- 1:31Speaker 4: holding her like this right, and he had his I'm
- 1:34Speaker 4: like this, she's in his lap. I took the pink
- 1:37Speaker 4: Teddy Bear and I'll put it in teddybears.
- 1:42Speaker 1: You see Leela telling a story about her most precious prize,
- 1:48Speaker 1: and that would be her daughter, Nova Grace, talking about
- 1:52Speaker 1: a pink Teddy Bear. You know what, I want to
- 1:54Speaker 1: see that one more time, guys. Look at Leelah now missing.
- 1:58Speaker 4: She had to suit on, and there was a pink
- 2:01Speaker 4: Teddy Bear exactly like literally the same color and everything.
- 2:07Speaker 4: And he was sitting in the chair and he was
- 2:09Speaker 4: holding her like this right and the end of the
- 2:12Speaker 4: arm like this, she said his lap. I took the
- 2:14Speaker 4: pink Teddy Bear and I put it in.
- 2:19Speaker 5: Teddybeary.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Let me go straight out now to Leyelah's father and stepmom,
- 2:24Speaker 1: George Emmett and Brittany Zeiitler. To both of you, thank
- 2:27Speaker 1: you for being with us. George, tell me about Leela.
- 2:32Speaker 1: When I see her singing along to music or talking
- 2:37Speaker 1: about her baby, Nova Graces, it's hard to believe that
- 2:43Speaker 1: she's out of Nova's life. I mean, tell me about her.
- 2:47Speaker 1: I understand she was a very, very loving mother.
- 2:50Speaker 6: Yeah, she was a very loving mother. She loved her
- 2:53Speaker 6: daughter very much. She loved her family. She was always
- 2:57Speaker 6: doing things with her daughter. You know, she was always
- 3:01Speaker 6: trying to strive to do better in life. So she's
- 3:06Speaker 6: she's she's a wonderful person, and I just want her
- 3:10Speaker 6: back home.
- 3:10Speaker 1: What has it been like, George without her?
- 3:14Speaker 5: Miserable?
- 3:15Speaker 6: I can't sleep, I can't think right, it's hard to work.
- 3:19Speaker 6: I got other kids I got to take care of.
- 3:22Speaker 6: It's just been very stressful. It's every parent's worst nightmare.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Brittany is Wala's stepmother. Brittany, thank you for being with us.
- 3:30Speaker 1: What has it been like for you guys trying to
- 3:33Speaker 1: move forward? You've got Nova Grace that doesn't have her mother.
- 3:37Speaker 1: You're missing Layla. What has that been like since she
- 3:41Speaker 1: went missing?
- 3:41Speaker 7: It's been really difficult, especially on all of us. It
- 3:46Speaker 7: definitely impacted us in many different ways, especially with having
- 3:51Speaker 7: to take on a little girl that is definitely missing
- 3:56Speaker 7: her mom and needs her need to be met. Or
- 4:00Speaker 7: that little girl she needs all the extra TLC that
- 4:02Speaker 7: she could eventually get, and we can all as a whole,
- 4:07Speaker 7: blended family give her the best life that we could
- 4:10Speaker 7: possibly give her at this time.
- 4:12Speaker 8: I mean, we've learned during this.
- 4:14Speaker 7: Unexpected tragedy that we've been faced with. Life doesn't stop.
- 4:19Speaker 7: Life keeps going whether we want it.
- 4:21Speaker 5: To or not.
- 4:22Speaker 7: And we still have to pick up all the pieces,
- 4:26Speaker 7: and there's still a lot of work that has to
- 4:28Speaker 7: get done, and we just keep holding on to the
- 4:31Speaker 7: little bit of hope that she is in fact still
- 4:34Speaker 7: out there.
- 4:35Speaker 1: You said something very striking, Brittany. I remember when my
- 4:39Speaker 1: fiance was murdered. I felt like the whole world had
- 4:42Speaker 1: just stopped. And then I look back and was stunned
- 4:45Speaker 1: to say that the world just kept turning. I was
- 4:49Speaker 1: the only one that stopped. It feels like everything froze
- 4:52Speaker 1: in time. George, what do you tell Nova Grace about
- 4:56Speaker 1: her mom? What does she ask?
- 5:00Speaker 6: She just basically, I guess, where's mommy, where's mommy?
- 5:04Speaker 5: Where's mommy? Looking not my mom? Yeah, she doesn't really know.
- 5:09Speaker 6: She was she was really young, really young at the
- 5:12Speaker 6: time we're talking to you, or so she's was, didn't
- 5:16Speaker 6: really know much at that time.
- 5:18Speaker 8: But she is starting to question where her mom is
- 5:21Speaker 8: and in fact, do I have a mom. You know, she'll.
- 5:24Speaker 7: See cartoons, she'll watch other kids call mom, dad whatnot,
- 5:31Speaker 7: you know, and here she is wondering, where's my mom?
- 5:36Speaker 7: So she is starting to ask those questions, where where
- 5:39Speaker 7: is my mom? And of course we get stumps, all
- 5:43Speaker 7: of us too, and we try to you know, rechange
- 5:48Speaker 7: you know, the topic, and show her her face and
- 5:52Speaker 7: show great pictures of Leila and Nova together so she
- 5:57Speaker 7: can at least see the good times that they did
- 6:00Speaker 7: have together and just hope that she can have more.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Brittany, you just broke my heart to think of baby
- 6:08Speaker 1: Nova Grace saying do I even have a mom? Do
- 6:12Speaker 1: I have a mom? What did you do when she
- 6:16Speaker 1: said that?
- 6:17Speaker 7: When she just started talking about mom, I just sat
- 6:22Speaker 7: right back, all my tears. Then she's say, oh, you know,
- 6:26Speaker 7: you'll see mommy soon, and just try to redirect her
- 6:30Speaker 7: into a different topic or do something different just to
- 6:35Speaker 7: kind of get that off the topic, because I honestly
- 6:39Speaker 7: don't know what to even say at this point.
- 6:41Speaker 8: We could say so much and we're.
- 6:44Speaker 7: Going to run out of things to say, and there's
- 6:46Speaker 7: going to come a point in time where what do
- 6:49Speaker 7: we say?
- 6:50Speaker 1: Guys? Uh, The family of a missing woman Leela last
- 6:56Speaker 1: scene running barefoot from a hotel. I don't want to
- 7:02Speaker 1: put the cart before the horse. Let's start at the beginning. Listen.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Just a few months after having her daughter, Nova Grace,
- 7:09Speaker 2: Layla Sentinela loses her grandfather, with whom she was very close.
- 7:13Speaker 2: In the roller coaster of emotions between the joy of
- 7:16Speaker 2: becoming a new mom and the grief of doing so
- 7:18Speaker 2: without her grandfather, Layla leans on Michael Thompson for support.
- 7:22Speaker 2: The too quickly become inseparable, and Layla moves in with
- 7:25Speaker 2: Michael's family in Kingsport, Tennessee.
- 7:28Speaker 1: The grief that she went through when the grandfather died unexpectedly.
- 7:33Speaker 1: To Karen Start joining me, renowned psychologist joining us out
- 7:36Speaker 1: of Manhattan, Manhattan, Radio trauma expert consultant at Karenstart dot com, Karen,
- 7:42Speaker 1: you never know how the loss of that father figure
- 7:45Speaker 1: or grandfather figure will affect you the rest of your life.
- 7:50Speaker 1: And for Leila, the loss of her grandfather was devastating.
- 7:54Speaker 1: It was a real turning point in her life.
- 7:56Speaker 9: I have no doubt, Nanta, that she was feeling that
- 7:59Speaker 9: she would be able to share her daughter with him.
- 8:02Speaker 9: She was very very.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Close to him.
- 8:04Speaker 8: And get them in many.
- 8:05Speaker 9: Forms, as you know, and in this case, with somebody
- 8:09Speaker 9: so close, it could have led to devastation. Here she is,
- 8:12Speaker 9: she's so confused. She loves her daughter and is excited,
- 8:16Speaker 9: but a tremendous loss and trauma when it came to
- 8:20Speaker 9: her grandfather.
- 8:21Speaker 1: And you know, very often we don't understand why people
- 8:25Speaker 1: do the things they do when they're functioning with immense grief.
- 8:32Speaker 1: How did the death of the grandfather affect her.
- 8:35Speaker 5: George really really bad?
- 8:37Speaker 6: Uh, she wasn't really talking to nobody, wasn't eating right,
- 8:42Speaker 6: just crying, constantly, crying every day.
- 8:45Speaker 5: I've tried to hug her holder and love her. She
- 8:49Speaker 5: just didn't want to be bothered.
- 8:50Speaker 7: Really, Now, we were lucky enough to have her present
- 8:55Speaker 7: when she found out that her grandfather passed away. She
- 8:58Speaker 7: was actually a majury taking her family vacation with Nova,
- 9:02Speaker 7: her mom and the mom's boyfriend. And I want to
- 9:07Speaker 7: say we were more fortunate enough to be there through
- 9:11Speaker 7: that traumatic time in her life as a whole. And yes,
- 9:16Speaker 7: she was very devastated over the loss of her grandfather.
- 9:20Speaker 8: Absolutely.
- 9:21Speaker 1: And you know, Karen, start with me, psychologist, You think
- 9:24Speaker 1: that someone it would be traumatized when they lose their
- 9:27Speaker 1: mom or their dad, which they are typically, But I
- 9:31Speaker 1: can identify that when I lost my grandmother, my mother's
- 9:35Speaker 1: mother who raised us, Lucy, that I then named my
- 9:38Speaker 1: daughter after my grandmother raised us while my mom worked,
- 9:42Speaker 1: and we were extremely extremely close. So a lot of
- 9:46Speaker 1: people can't relate to someone falling apart when they lose
- 9:50Speaker 1: a grandparent, right, but for many of us, it can
- 9:54Speaker 1: be devastating.
- 9:55Speaker 9: Without a doubt, this is sort of a father figure
- 9:58Speaker 9: for her. Even though she had her dad and loves
- 10:00Speaker 9: her dad, she was extremely close to her grandfather, And
- 10:05Speaker 9: so the behavior that you have after a loss like that, Nancy,
- 10:09Speaker 9: anything is possible because you're in trauma. You're really feeling
- 10:15Speaker 9: extreme PTSD sometimes where you can't get over the event
- 10:20Speaker 9: and you can't get over the lost chap to come
- 10:22Speaker 9: to terms with it.
- 10:23Speaker 1: It also makes me think, of course, I'm just an
- 10:25Speaker 1: armchair psychologist. Don't like you, Karen start, but it makes
- 10:28Speaker 1: me wonder if that's not why she then got so
- 10:32Speaker 1: attached to the boyfriend Michael Thompson. Listen.
- 10:36Speaker 10: On Friday, June twenty third, Leayla gets in an argument
- 10:39Speaker 10: with her boyfriend Michael Thompson, and while the pair are
- 10:41Speaker 10: usually attached to the hip, Leayla takes off, leaving most
- 10:44Speaker 10: of her belongings, including the couple's shared phone behind. Layla
- 10:48Speaker 10: stays with several friends, but is not in contact with
- 10:51Speaker 10: family without her phone.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Oh my stars, this to me that starts the dominoes
- 10:58Speaker 1: falling when she leaves the boyfriend's place without a cell phone. Okay,
- 11:04Speaker 1: let me understand this, Brittany Zeidler. They were sharing one account.
- 11:08Speaker 7: Yes, they were working off of one working phone. The
- 11:12Speaker 7: other phone had a Wi Fi connected phone, so that
- 11:15Speaker 7: was when they were able to get a hold of
- 11:17Speaker 7: one another. Leila would stay behind, Michael would go run
- 11:20Speaker 7: his errands, and the sleep with one phone on the
- 11:25Speaker 7: one account for many months.
- 11:27Speaker 1: So those who were sharing one phone, then that phone disappears.
- 11:34Speaker 1: That right there marks for me the beginning of a timeline.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Why because nobody can be in touch with her. Rick
- 11:42Speaker 1: Schaeffer joining me, former FBI supervisory special agent. I mean,
- 11:47Speaker 1: in this day and age, Rick, your cell phone, I mean,
- 11:52Speaker 1: let's talk about the Alex Murdad case. For peace sake,
- 11:55Speaker 1: Murdod charged and the double murder of his wife and son,
- 11:58Speaker 1: Maggie and Paul. The digital footprint, the cell phone data
- 12:02Speaker 1: of the NAV system in his vehicle told a story.
- 12:06Speaker 1: I mean, as far as I was concerned, you put
- 12:09Speaker 1: that one digital analyst on the stand case closed because
- 12:14Speaker 1: it places murder like at the scene of the double murder.
- 12:18Speaker 1: At the time of the double murder, you hear his
- 12:21Speaker 1: voice in the background of a video taken and then
- 12:24Speaker 1: with the nav system you see what time he leaves
- 12:26Speaker 1: goes hies out at his grandmother's thirty minutes away. You
- 12:29Speaker 1: can even see where he slows down. Let's the window down. Yes,
- 12:33Speaker 1: you can tell that from a nav system and throws Maggie,
- 12:36Speaker 1: his now dead wife's phone out the window and then
- 12:39Speaker 1: takes off. You can tell all that from modern digital science.
- 12:46Speaker 1: So when you don't have a phone that greatly greatly
- 12:52Speaker 1: impedes a criminal investigation, absolutely.
- 12:55Speaker 11: Or absolutely correct. Not only are you going to be
- 12:58Speaker 11: able to determine where that phone is, but who's in
- 13:02Speaker 11: possession of it at time, not only from the cell
- 13:05Speaker 11: tower it's painting off, but any metadata that can be
- 13:09Speaker 11: extracted from photos or text or anything.
- 13:12Speaker 5: Of that nature. It looks like the police department.
- 13:14Speaker 11: Has done everything they can from a cell phone data
- 13:19Speaker 11: collection standpoint, looking at cameras, any digital technology that would
- 13:24Speaker 11: help track or whereabouts, and the reality of it is
- 13:27Speaker 11: is she's clearly vanished, and that's a very difficult thing
- 13:31Speaker 11: to do in today's environment out there where everything is
- 13:36Speaker 11: digitally captured.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Leila is last seen in an open field before seemingly
- 14:00Speaker 2: vanishing into thin air. Now her family is looking for
- 14:04Speaker 2: answers as to the whereabouts of the young Tennessee momus.
- 14:15Speaker 1: And where is Leila after a sick money grab where
- 14:25Speaker 1: the family gets threatening ransom texts threatening to chop Leila
- 14:30Speaker 1: into bits if money isn't forked over. This during the
- 14:35Speaker 1: search for the missing mom As it goes on, we
- 14:39Speaker 1: were just describing how Leila and the boyfriend that she
- 14:45Speaker 1: suddenly moves into after the death of her grandfather have
- 14:49Speaker 1: an argument. They have an argument, she takes off without
- 14:55Speaker 1: a cell phone.
- 14:57Speaker 12: Then what happens Saturday morning? Michael, Since Jennifer sendsanello a
- 15:01Speaker 12: message on Layla's Facebook profile, Jennifer is immediately worried. It's
- 15:06Speaker 12: unusual that Michael wouldn't know where Layla is. Michael says
- 15:09Speaker 12: he hasn't seen Leila in more than twenty four hours.
- 15:12Speaker 12: Jennifer spent several hours trying to track Layla down. Layla
- 15:16Speaker 12: isn't hospitalized anywhere. Finally, Jennifer's niece gets word from a
- 15:20Speaker 12: mutual friend that Layla spent the night at his house
- 15:23Speaker 12: and was okay when she left.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Okay, so there. Even after she takes off without a
- 15:28Speaker 1: cell phone, which destroys everybody because they can't get in
- 15:32Speaker 1: touch with her, we find out she's at a friend's house. Okay,
- 15:37Speaker 1: everything is okay. But finally we actually hear from Leelah herself.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Sunday morning, Jennifer Sonanela wakes up to another Facebook message,
- 15:48Speaker 2: this time from Layla. Laylah says she's okay and doing fine,
- 15:52Speaker 2: much to her mother's relief. Jennifer has a few questions,
- 15:55Speaker 2: but when Layla is vague, Jennifer assumes it's because Layla
- 15:58Speaker 2: knows Michael can access the count she doesn't want him
- 16:01Speaker 2: to know where she is. Leyla reminds her mom that
- 16:03Speaker 2: she isn't carrying a phone, but she'll do her best
- 16:06Speaker 2: to check in as much as possible. Jennifer's niece places
- 16:09Speaker 2: Leila out of friends again, confirming Layla borrowed their phone
- 16:12Speaker 2: to message her mom. Okay, Now we have a genuine lead.
- 16:17Speaker 1: I was suspicious about those messages because they didn't sound
- 16:22Speaker 1: like Leela and I don't have to talk about Gabby Petito,
- 16:26Speaker 1: who went on a cross country trip with fiance Brian Laundry.
- 16:30Speaker 1: He murdered her and was using her phone and her
- 16:35Speaker 1: Fortransit and her credit cards and her money, and was
- 16:38Speaker 1: texting odd texts. They wouldn't seem odd, probably to you
- 16:42Speaker 1: or to me, but to the family that was getting them,
- 16:47Speaker 1: they knew that wasn't Gabby. For instance, when she asked
- 16:50Speaker 1: about her grandfather, she said, in my case, well how's
- 16:54Speaker 1: Walter Malcolm and Grace Senior. She would never have said that.
- 16:58Speaker 1: She would be saying how's granddaddy? So they knew something
- 17:01Speaker 1: was wrong. Well, they were right. It wasn't her texting.
- 17:04Speaker 1: It was Brian Laundry trying to give the appearance that
- 17:06Speaker 1: Gabby was still alive. However, in this case, there was
- 17:10Speaker 1: another reason that Leela was not being forthcoming in her
- 17:14Speaker 1: text to Britney Zeitler, her stepmom, and George Emmett, her
- 17:19Speaker 1: father to Brittany, apparently because they shared the same cell phone.
- 17:25Speaker 1: And we had this occur recently in the case of
- 17:30Speaker 1: glam yoga instructor Caitlyn Armstrong, who murdered her boyfriend, Colin
- 17:36Speaker 1: Strickland's former girlfriend out of a fit of jealousy. She
- 17:42Speaker 1: the yoga instructor, was sharing an account with Colin Strickland,
- 17:45Speaker 1: the boyfriend, so when he was texting the victim Maureen,
- 17:50Speaker 1: she could see it all. She could see it all.
- 17:53Speaker 1: It pop right up on her iPad, right, So here,
- 17:57Speaker 1: do you believe that was Leila messaging but that she
- 18:03Speaker 1: was intentionally being vague because she shared that account with
- 18:07Speaker 1: the boyfriend that she just walked down on. Yes.
- 18:10Speaker 7: Absolutely, We really did think that it was Leela for
- 18:14Speaker 7: the moment. So we you know, we're like, okay, maybe
- 18:18Speaker 7: she doesn't want to know where she is at. He
- 18:22Speaker 7: wants to stay away from her vice versa. So we
- 18:26Speaker 7: just let it be at that moment in time. But
- 18:29Speaker 7: when we didn't hear from her voice, we started to question.
- 18:34Speaker 1: You know, what about it, George, When you found out
- 18:37Speaker 1: about that Facebook message, I'm fine, I'm at so and
- 18:41Speaker 1: so friend, and then that was corroborated by someone else. Yes,
- 18:46Speaker 1: that's where she is. Everything's fine. At that point, you
- 18:50Speaker 1: were not concerned, is that right? Yeah?
- 18:52Speaker 13: At that point I thought maybe she did get an
- 18:57Speaker 13: argument with them and Joy I didn't want to get
- 18:59Speaker 13: away from them at first, but then when I tried
- 19:02Speaker 13: to reach out to her and didn't get a response back,
- 19:05Speaker 13: that's when I started getting a little nervous.
- 19:08Speaker 3: The case moves forward. Now it's Monday morning. Monday morning,
- 19:12Speaker 3: Michael Thompson is becoming more insistent that he can't find Layla,
- 19:16Speaker 3: claiming she asked him to pick her up from a
- 19:18Speaker 3: friend's house but wasn't there when he arrived. Jennifer still
- 19:22Speaker 3: believes her daughter is avoiding Michael and doesn't want to
- 19:24Speaker 3: tip him off to where she is. Michael then reaches
- 19:27Speaker 3: out to Layla's dad, George Emmett, making him intensely worried.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Okay, right there, When did you become concerned, George? That
- 19:39Speaker 1: something was a mess.
- 19:41Speaker 6: When I texted her and I didn't get no response
- 19:43Speaker 6: the next day, That's when.
- 19:46Speaker 5: I was really worried because that's not like my daughter.
- 19:49Speaker 5: She picks up for me and I'm no matter what.
- 19:53Speaker 6: So that's when I really got worried and decided I
- 19:57Speaker 6: was going to call and.
- 19:58Speaker 5: Make a police report on my.
- 20:00Speaker 1: You know, I want to talk about what you just said, George,
- 20:03Speaker 1: joining me is Leila's father, George and stepmom Brittany Joining
- 20:08Speaker 1: me now is a renowned defense attorney Ben at Powers.
- 20:13Speaker 1: You can find them at Legal Powers online. Ben. Thank
- 20:17Speaker 1: you for being with us. Ben. It's called routine evidence.
- 20:20Speaker 1: And I don't like that description because it sounds like
- 20:24Speaker 1: you're talking about the typical, run of the mill, standard evidence.
- 20:28Speaker 1: But what it means is evidence of someone's routine.
- 20:32Speaker 14: Right.
- 20:33Speaker 1: A routine a routine that you unintentionally carry out or
- 20:38Speaker 1: repeat every day. I do the same thing every single
- 20:43Speaker 1: morning in an effort to get my children to school,
- 20:46Speaker 1: take care of my mother who lives with us, take
- 20:48Speaker 1: care of a multitude of pets before I can start
- 20:52Speaker 1: my real job. Right. It's a routine that has been
- 20:56Speaker 1: perfected to save time and accomplish things. Right. That's a routine.
- 21:00Speaker 1: And here, when George Emmitt says she didn't call, a
- 21:03Speaker 1: lot of people will go, hey, I don't hear from
- 21:05Speaker 1: my daughter for two weeks at a time, and that's okay.
- 21:10Speaker 1: I called my mom and dad, say what you want
- 21:13Speaker 1: every single day in the morning and at night, at
- 21:15Speaker 1: a bare of minimum. That has been my routine. I
- 21:19Speaker 1: wanted to hear from them. I wanted to hear their voice.
- 21:21Speaker 1: So routine evidence is very powerful, being powers. I guess
- 21:26Speaker 1: some defense attorneys would argue it means nothing.
- 21:28Speaker 5: I would say routine evidence can be important.
- 21:30Speaker 14: But under these circumstances, the routine was clearly turned upside.
- 21:35Speaker 5: Down and inside out.
- 21:36Speaker 14: You know, she has a big argument with her boyfriend
- 21:38Speaker 14: that they're basically attached at the hill because of extenuating circumstances,
- 21:44Speaker 14: they're relegated to one phone instead of two, and so
- 21:48Speaker 14: she could be separated from him and the phone. She
- 21:50Speaker 14: could be separated from him with the phone. You know,
- 21:53Speaker 14: that type of distinction in the timeline definitely throws the
- 21:56Speaker 14: routine into question and isn't as reliable as maybe under
- 22:01Speaker 14: regular circumstances that the routine usually exists within.
- 22:04Speaker 4: She had to sit on and there was a pink
- 22:07Speaker 4: Teddy Bear exactly like literally the same color and everything,
- 22:14Speaker 4: and he was sitting in a chair and he was
- 22:15Speaker 4: holding her like this right, and I'm like this just
- 22:19Speaker 4: in his lap. I took the pink Teddy Bear and
- 22:21Speaker 4: I put.
- 22:22Speaker 7: It in.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Teddy Bear George with me. This is Layla's dad. Why
- 22:30Speaker 1: are you crying?
- 22:32Speaker 6: Devastating? That's been too long it's very stressful on me,
- 22:39Speaker 6: my family. I just it's a lot. That's why I'm crying.
- 22:45Speaker 6: That's every parent's worst.
- 22:46Speaker 5: Nightmare, you know.
- 22:47Speaker 1: And I was thinking, George, after you know, my fiance
- 22:52Speaker 1: was murdered, I never ever thought that I could ever remarry,
- 22:57Speaker 1: that I would ever have children. I thought that was
- 23:00Speaker 1: just a dream that was just over and it was.
- 23:03Speaker 1: It was for over twenty years. Then suddenly I have
- 23:11Speaker 1: a family. Can I tell you the greatest thing that
- 23:17Speaker 1: happened to me was having the twins. And let me
- 23:21Speaker 1: see those videos in your control room. I mean, this
- 23:25Speaker 1: was the time of Leela's life. She finally has Nova Grace,
- 23:33Speaker 1: just the love of her life, finally happiness, she has
- 23:40Speaker 1: this beautiful baby girl. I mean, I guess most moms
- 23:47Speaker 1: out there would agree that's the best time of your
- 23:51Speaker 1: life when you finally have your children. And to think
- 23:56Speaker 1: she's snatched away from her daughter and now her daughter
- 24:00Speaker 1: George has patures in these videos that's it and says
- 24:05Speaker 1: things like do I even have a mommy? I mean,
- 24:09Speaker 1: I get while you're crying, George.
- 24:11Speaker 6: Yeah, she's all my granddaor is all I have left
- 24:14Speaker 6: of my daughter as of now? For two years Oh,
- 24:19Speaker 6: it's really hard and devastate. I just want to answers
- 24:25Speaker 6: hell loove closure.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Guys, we left off, we left off where George is
- 24:31Speaker 1: now becoming extremely worried. Listen.
- 24:34Speaker 10: George calls Jennifer to discuss whether they should report Layla missing.
- 24:37Speaker 10: Extremely concerned after his last conversation with Michael based on
- 24:41Speaker 10: her last text conversation with Laila, Jennifer doesn't want to
- 24:44Speaker 10: jump the gun. The parents decide to report Layla missing
- 24:47Speaker 10: the next morning, which will be forty eight hours since
- 24:49Speaker 10: Layla's last contact with family. However, George can't shake the
- 24:53Speaker 10: feeling he needs to do something, and after several sleepless hours,
- 24:57Speaker 10: makes an official report that Laylah Santonello is missing in
- 25:00Speaker 10: the early morning hours of June twenty seventh.
- 25:03Speaker 1: So George, since Michael Thompson, the boyfriend, and Layelah had
- 25:07Speaker 1: been so close joined at the hip following her grandfather's death,
- 25:11Speaker 1: When he is starting to ask you, where's Laila, you
- 25:16Speaker 1: know something is really wrong. What prompted you to report
- 25:20Speaker 1: her missing at that time?
- 25:22Speaker 6: Well, when I couldn't get a hold of her and
- 25:25Speaker 6: she didn't respond back to me, I already knew something
- 25:28Speaker 6: was wrong.
- 25:28Speaker 5: Something something was not right.
- 25:31Speaker 6: So when he was reaching out to me and sending
- 25:33Speaker 6: me text messages about not being able to find my
- 25:36Speaker 6: daughter and everything, that just made it ten times worse
- 25:38Speaker 6: for me. I mean I went right out there right away.
- 25:43Speaker 5: We hired a private detective.
- 25:45Speaker 6: We have a private detective that's been on the case
- 25:48Speaker 6: since day one.
- 25:51Speaker 5: We have a private detective.
- 25:52Speaker 6: We've been We've drove from boys you Jorge to Tennessee
- 25:57Speaker 6: out several I can't many times already on behalf of
- 26:01Speaker 6: my daughter.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Then the searches on was George reports her missing and
- 26:06Speaker 1: finally a lead listen.
- 26:09Speaker 12: Kingsport Police immediately began investigating, speaking with Michael Thompson and
- 26:13Speaker 12: his family around two am June twenty seventh. By the
- 26:16Speaker 12: end of the day, investigators have a lead. Layla checked
- 26:20Speaker 12: into the Americourt Hotel for the night of June twenty sixth.
- 26:23Speaker 12: Employees and other guests say Leyla seemed paranoid. Laila is
- 26:27Speaker 12: caught on CCTV knocking on doors to look for someone.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Join me now, a very special guest. Rebecca McNairy, reporter
- 26:35Speaker 1: writer at Kingston Time News. Rebecca, thank you so much
- 26:39Speaker 1: for being with us. So who was she looking for
- 26:43Speaker 1: why are people there at the hotel describing her as
- 26:48Speaker 1: afraid of something?
- 26:49Speaker 15: You know, going based off the facts that we have
- 26:52Speaker 15: received from the Kingsport Police Department and other local authorities,
- 26:57Speaker 15: we have not been sure of who specifically she was
- 27:00Speaker 15: looking for.
- 27:02Speaker 8: We know that witnesses testified that she.
- 27:06Speaker 15: Was acting paranoid and looking for something, but the Kingsport
- 27:10Speaker 15: Police Department has not released any specific details regarding that
- 27:14Speaker 15: certain matter.
- 27:15Speaker 1: You know, Rebecca McNary, you're so right speaking of a
- 27:19Speaker 1: witness perceived good samaritan, this is what we learned.
- 27:24Speaker 16: Please let me help you. I have a room, My mom,
- 27:27Speaker 16: my son are inside. You can sit down. I will
- 27:30Speaker 16: talk to you. How would do any tag him to
- 27:31Speaker 16: help you? She froze for a moment, full a breath,
- 27:35Speaker 16: and he was like, and she looked at my room,
- 27:38Speaker 16: She looked at me, and then she said no, I
- 27:39Speaker 16: can't and she.
- 27:40Speaker 1: Just ran out and through the park came lot and.
- 27:43Speaker 3: That was a life I saw her.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Is that right, Rebecca mnary? She this good Samarita said, look,
- 27:49Speaker 1: what's wrong? Who are you looking for? Why are you afraid?
- 27:53Speaker 1: And apparently Lila goes, no, no, I can't talk to
- 27:58Speaker 1: you about it. It takes off running. Yeah, that is.
- 28:01Speaker 5: Several witnesses accounts.
- 28:03Speaker 15: I believe the police department and local authorities have told
- 28:07Speaker 15: me that, But again I can't comment on that specifically
- 28:10Speaker 15: because the police department has not come forward with that
- 28:15Speaker 15: specific information.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Where is a mom of one little nova grace? We're
- 28:21Speaker 1: talking about Layela? Do we finally have a bead or
- 28:25Speaker 1: where she may be? And now is this a break? Listen?
- 28:29Speaker 10: As police tried to determine Layla's next move, employees at
- 28:32Speaker 10: the nearby warehouse provide another lead. Around six or fifteen
- 28:35Speaker 10: in the morning, Layla asks if she can bump a cigarette.
- 28:38Speaker 10: None of the men have smokes on them. Layla thanks
- 28:40Speaker 10: them anyway and walks away. The men say Layla was
- 28:42Speaker 10: perfectly polite and seemed coherent. Layla did appear slightly disheveled
- 28:47Speaker 10: with messy hair and grass and leaves on her back,
- 28:50Speaker 10: like she maybe had laid down in the field.
- 28:52Speaker 1: Now, how does a marble slab creamery fit into this
- 28:58Speaker 1: search for Laylah? We all know what that is? Very
- 29:01Speaker 1: popular ice cream place a shop. Listen.
- 29:04Speaker 3: An employee at a nearby ice cream shop, the Marble
- 29:07Speaker 3: Slab says, a blonde woman came into the store around
- 29:10Speaker 3: noon on the twenty seventh, with no shoes on. She
- 29:13Speaker 3: says the woman was very disheveled, wearing a white T
- 29:16Speaker 3: shirt and black luggings. The woman seemed somewhat incoherent and
- 29:20Speaker 3: made a comment about her husband wanting to kill her
- 29:23Speaker 3: before asking to borrow the employee's phone.
- 29:25Speaker 1: The woman walked.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Back out of the store, saying she wanted to head
- 29:29Speaker 3: to a nearby five below to buy shoes. When shown
- 29:32Speaker 3: a photo of Leila, the employee is convinced that's the
- 29:35Speaker 3: woman she spoke to.
- 29:36Speaker 1: Okay, we've all heard attacks on eyewitnesses, and in this
- 29:40Speaker 1: particular case, we hit a dead end.
- 29:44Speaker 12: Kingsport police intensely focused on the marble slab lead, checking
- 29:47Speaker 12: with several more nearby establishments. Authorities believe they are zeroing
- 29:51Speaker 12: in on Layla, but CCTV and phone records eventually proved
- 29:55Speaker 12: the employee was mistaken about the woman's identity. Officers tracked
- 29:59Speaker 12: the woman down, who confirms it was her in the
- 30:01Speaker 12: ice cream shop that afternoon, not Leila.
- 30:03Speaker 1: Santanello. Ah Crime Stories with Nancy Grace joining me, investigative
- 30:20Speaker 1: reporter and writer at the Kingsport Time needs Rebecca McNairy, Rebecca,
- 30:27Speaker 1: that's devastating to get an eyewitness tip. The woman is
- 30:32Speaker 1: absolutely convinced this is Leelah that comes into Marble Slab
- 30:36Speaker 1: Creamery and she's disproved. Tell me what happened. The woman
- 30:41Speaker 1: was so convinced it was Leilah.
- 30:42Speaker 15: Yeah, according to report, she was convinced that she had
- 30:46Speaker 15: seen Layla. Again, the Kingsport Police investigated and that was
- 30:51Speaker 15: indeed not the case based off the records and the
- 30:54Speaker 15: surveillance footage that they had. But again, something like that
- 30:58Speaker 15: where you think that you have a lead and then
- 31:01Speaker 15: instead is definitely devastating for the family that's trying to
- 31:04Speaker 15: bring Leila home.
- 31:05Speaker 1: To Ben Powers joining US criminal defense attorney, Ben it's
- 31:10Speaker 1: also bad for an investigation, a potential trial in the
- 31:13Speaker 1: future because when you get a lead, an eyewitness lead,
- 31:17Speaker 1: and the woman is absolutely convinced she sees Leyla right
- 31:22Speaker 1: later on, a defense attorney can say, see, she saw
- 31:26Speaker 1: Layelah at this time on this date, and my client
- 31:32Speaker 1: on trial now was here in another state or whatever
- 31:36Speaker 1: fill in the blank. When you try, when you try
- 31:41Speaker 1: a case, you have to go down every avenue to
- 31:44Speaker 1: get to the truth. You can't leave anything out. But
- 31:47Speaker 1: when you go down those avenues, for instance, if you
- 31:50Speaker 1: name a person of interest or suspect too soon it
- 31:52Speaker 1: turns out to be wrong, that's a field day for
- 31:55Speaker 1: the defense, just like a false tip.
- 31:57Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree.
- 31:58Speaker 14: I think the significance of the witness being mistaken as
- 32:01Speaker 14: it shows that police.
- 32:02Speaker 5: Went down the wrong thread. You know, it ultimately led to.
- 32:08Speaker 14: A Tom commitment from the investigation that ended with a
- 32:11Speaker 14: dead end in the investigation. So then they've got to
- 32:13Speaker 14: go back and figure out what direction do they take
- 32:16Speaker 14: the investigation. And so now that tim, that effort, that
- 32:20Speaker 14: dedication has been spent on something that wasn't fruitful. Oh yeah,
- 32:24Speaker 14: and something like this. You know, Tom is the enemy
- 32:27Speaker 14: of an investigation. The longer time goes on, the harder
- 32:30Speaker 14: the investigation gets.
- 32:32Speaker 10: Two weeks after Layla's disappearance, both mother and stepmother start
- 32:36Speaker 10: getting cash apt requests from Layla's account, but the message
- 32:39Speaker 10: is attached to the requests send chills down their spines.
- 32:43Speaker 10: They're keeping me hostage. I owe someone fifteen minutes or
- 32:47Speaker 10: you'll find her. In pieces and the acronym TWLMG panics,
- 32:53Speaker 10: the women send various amounts of money with messages like,
- 32:56Speaker 10: are you okay and call me in the hopes that
- 32:59Speaker 10: Laila would see them, also reporting the activity to Believes.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Oh my stars, sick ransom text to Leilah's family, George Emmitt,
- 33:09Speaker 1: what happened at that point?
- 33:11Speaker 6: We got really scared, We got really nervous, and we
- 33:14Speaker 6: were willing to do whatever it took to try to
- 33:18Speaker 6: get a hold of her.
- 33:19Speaker 5: At that point.
- 33:20Speaker 1: I mean, in all of her history, had Leyela ever
- 33:23Speaker 1: sent you a text or an email like that.
- 33:25Speaker 5: Never?
- 33:26Speaker 6: Never, So that's why we were very discerned and worried.
- 33:30Speaker 1: That somebody might actually threatened to chop her up.
- 33:34Speaker 5: Yes, correct, Yes, you know.
- 33:35Speaker 1: It's just actually making my stomach hurt. After all you
- 33:39Speaker 1: had been through, and someone is threatening to chop her
- 33:43Speaker 1: up unless they get money. Look, we're showing you the
- 33:48Speaker 1: sick ransom text. I mean, Brittany, what went through your
- 33:52Speaker 1: mind when you get this?
- 33:54Speaker 7: I was in utter shock, and of course I reached
- 33:57Speaker 7: out to Jennifer. I reached out To's boyfriend Michael, and
- 34:02Speaker 7: while I am on the phone with Michael, I'm like,
- 34:06Speaker 7: are you getting any cash up requests? Because I'm getting
- 34:10Speaker 7: some right now, saying for abbreviations, and I gave him
- 34:15Speaker 7: you know TWMLG and he goes, oh, well, my brother
- 34:19Speaker 7: says they won't let me go or they will let
- 34:21Speaker 7: me go.
- 34:22Speaker 8: And I'm not processing everything that's going on at that moment.
- 34:26Speaker 7: I'm just thinking, oh my god, how do we do this?
- 34:29Speaker 7: I want to hear her voice. I want to know
- 34:31Speaker 7: that she is in fact, okay, do they really have her?
- 34:34Speaker 8: So there were so.
- 34:35Speaker 7: Many things just running through my mind as well as George's,
- 34:38Speaker 7: and we were just dumbfounded, like, oh my, what do
- 34:42Speaker 7: we do?
- 34:42Speaker 8: Do we send all this money?
- 34:44Speaker 7: Do we I dragged it out as much as I
- 34:47Speaker 7: possibly could to be able to get as much information
- 34:50Speaker 7: as I possibly can, and Jennifer and I were asking
- 34:53Speaker 7: questions like, you know, what's your youngest brother's name, what's
- 34:57Speaker 7: your pop secret pass code?
- 34:58Speaker 8: Only things that Leila can answer, and they were left
- 35:01Speaker 8: and answered.
- 35:02Speaker 1: So how did he the boyfriend know what t w
- 35:06Speaker 1: l MG means. It's not like he's I DK. I
- 35:09Speaker 1: don't know. I had to figure out what does t
- 35:12Speaker 1: w l MG mean? And he knew it off the
- 35:14Speaker 1: tip of his.
- 35:15Speaker 7: Tongue, That's what I was saying, And like I, of course,
- 35:18Speaker 7: wasn't processing it at that exact moment.
- 35:21Speaker 8: But once I had a moment to process everything.
- 35:23Speaker 7: On what was going on and rereading all of the
- 35:26Speaker 7: messages and everything that I had sending it to the investigators,
- 35:30Speaker 7: I was just like, wow, Like, I know, I got
- 35:33Speaker 7: a lot going on, but how do you know exactly
- 35:37Speaker 7: what that meant?
- 35:39Speaker 5: In an instance?
- 35:40Speaker 8: I was just I was roud.
- 35:42Speaker 1: I was roud. This is what Leila's mother has to
- 35:46Speaker 1: say about that ransom text.
- 35:48Speaker 15: It's one thing for a stranger to try and capitalize
- 35:53Speaker 15: on something.
- 35:54Speaker 1: Like that the way that they that he did.
- 35:57Speaker 15: It's a whole other thing when it's someone.
- 35:59Speaker 5: That you care about.
- 36:00Speaker 1: From our friends at News five wcy B to Rebecca
- 36:04Speaker 1: McNary joining US reporter Kingsport Time News, who is he
- 36:10Speaker 1: who sent the ransom text threatening to talk Lala into bits?
- 36:15Speaker 15: Yeah, So police later found out during their investigation of
- 36:18Speaker 15: that was her boyfriend at the time, Michael Thompson, who
- 36:22Speaker 15: was sending those pretty alarming messages to Leyla's family about
- 36:25Speaker 15: two weeks after she was reported missing. He was later
- 36:30Speaker 15: indicted by a grand jury here in Sulliwyn County on
- 36:33Speaker 15: financial exploitation, credit card fraud, and identity theft.
- 36:38Speaker 12: Thompson otherwise cooperates with the investigation, and neither family nor
- 36:42Speaker 12: cops believe Thompson had anything to do with Layla's disappearance,
- 36:46Speaker 12: but obviously tried to take advantage of this situation. Jennifer
- 36:49Speaker 12: Santanello claims Thompson has taken a polygraph test, but the
- 36:53Speaker 12: results were inconclusive because he was not sober for the
- 36:56Speaker 12: five hour exam.
- 36:57Speaker 1: George, jam And, I want to confirm with you. Our
- 37:00Speaker 1: sources have told us that you do not believe Thompson
- 37:04Speaker 1: had anything to do with Layla's disappearance.
- 37:07Speaker 6: No, I don't believe. Well, they cleared them first. First
- 37:11Speaker 6: they cleared them.
- 37:12Speaker 8: How do you feel.
- 37:15Speaker 6: I feel he might know something or know some people
- 37:18Speaker 6: that could be involved are whereabouts. That is possible, but
- 37:24Speaker 6: he's not saying nothing for nobody.
- 37:26Speaker 1: So guys, what about the search now.
- 37:29Speaker 2: In addition to grid searches near the Americ Court Hotel,
- 37:32Speaker 2: Kingsport PD have searched the home Laylah shared with Michael
- 37:35Speaker 2: Thompson and served at least thirty more search warrants. Officers
- 37:38Speaker 2: have also issued at least twenty five subpoenas. Officers remain
- 37:42Speaker 2: tight lipped about their most current leads to protect the investigation,
- 37:45Speaker 2: but have searched several other locations in addition to the field,
- 37:48Speaker 2: totaling six ground searches.
- 37:50Speaker 1: To Rebecca McNary joining us from Kingsport, Time News tell
- 37:55Speaker 1: me about the search as it stands right now and
- 37:58Speaker 1: the reward.
- 37:59Speaker 15: I know that the search the ground searches were subsided
- 38:04Speaker 15: a little bit during the colder winter months, but that
- 38:06Speaker 15: those are expected to pick up again here in the
- 38:10Speaker 15: near future. As far as any kind of reward money,
- 38:15Speaker 15: I'm not sure. I believe the last number that I
- 38:18Speaker 15: heard was around seven grand that her family was offering
- 38:21Speaker 15: do whoever had information about her whereabouts and disappearance.
- 38:25Speaker 1: To George and Brittany. This case has taken so many
- 38:29Speaker 1: twists and turns, false reports of false siding that seems
- 38:34Speaker 1: so credible. The ransom text just cold blooded ransom text,
- 38:41Speaker 1: money grab. So where are we left? In my mind,
- 38:45Speaker 1: we're left with the warehouse workers that didn't have a
- 38:49Speaker 1: cigarette seeing her walk off into a field. That's where
- 38:54Speaker 1: we are.
- 38:55Speaker 6: What about it, George, That's where we are as of
- 38:59Speaker 6: right now. That's the last known place that she was
- 39:04Speaker 6: actually seen.
- 39:05Speaker 5: So that's all we know is of right now?
- 39:08Speaker 1: What about it? Brittany.
- 39:09Speaker 7: Well, so even though that's all that we have at
- 39:12Speaker 7: this time, we're going to continue to work as hard
- 39:16Speaker 7: as we can to figure out what direction she went.
- 39:20Speaker 8: And I call it the direction of the unknown.
- 39:23Speaker 7: Since it's been two years almost now, and I know,
- 39:28Speaker 7: any type of surveillance footage that we have tried to
- 39:31Speaker 7: grab off of weather cameras or any type of surveillance
- 39:37Speaker 7: that our investigator had tried to pull, I know at
- 39:42Speaker 7: this time it's definitely going to be extremely difficult.
- 39:46Speaker 8: To be able to pull. So we're got to just
- 39:50Speaker 8: keep on search in and.
- 39:52Speaker 7: Put ground searches in place to be able to gather
- 39:55Speaker 7: as much resources that we possibly can from nonprofit organizations.
- 40:00Speaker 8: That offer out of our dogs.
- 40:02Speaker 7: Drones, extensive, yes, extensive, wide varieties of you know, needs
- 40:09Speaker 7: for Layela to be able to be found, since we
- 40:12Speaker 7: feel like we're working next little of nothing at this time.
- 40:16Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything about the
- 40:19Speaker 1: disappearance of Layelah Santanello, please dial four two three three
- 40:25Speaker 1: four three nine seven eight zero or toll free eight
- 40:30Speaker 1: hundred TB I find eight hundred eight two four three
- 40:35Speaker 1: four sixty three. There is a seven thousand dollars reward
- 40:40Speaker 1: for information in the disappearance of Leyela, and that reward
- 40:45Speaker 1: is growing. We now remember an American hero, Senior Deputy
- 40:51Speaker 1: Christopher Corzilias, Travis County Sheriff, Texas, passed away in the
- 40:57Speaker 1: line of duty, survived by grieving partner Bethany, mother Nancy,
- 41:03Speaker 1: father Paul, stepmom Patty. American hero Senior Deputy Christopher Grasilius,
- 41:13Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,