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How Did This Get Rigged? The NBA Poker Scam w/ Paul Scheer & Jason Mantzoukas · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 2: Now y'all know y'all are you know? I'm very what, Yes, excited, elated, static.
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  Speaker 2: We have two amazing iconic guests today, two people.
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  Speaker 3: That I have.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose y'all because I'm a little gagged, Two people
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  Speaker 2: that I have like worshiped in comedy and also had
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  Speaker 2: the privilege of doing comedy with. I'm so excited that
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  Speaker 2: they're here. They are two thirds of the podcast royalty.
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  Speaker 3: Honey.
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  Speaker 2: Truly, these guys are some of the funniest people that
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  Speaker 2: I literally have ever met.
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  Speaker 3: First up, we have a gentleman you know, from.
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  Speaker 2: The League, Black Monday Veep and oh yes, he's a
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  Speaker 2: full on director.
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  Speaker 3: Our other equally brilliant guest.
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  Speaker 2: Is known for the League, the Good Place, big Mouth, Invincible,
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  Speaker 2: and so much more.
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  Speaker 4: Together, they co host.
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  Speaker 2: The iconic podcast How Did This Get Made, alongside Paul's
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  Speaker 2: gorgeous and equally impressive batty wife June Die and Rafaelle
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  Speaker 2: Period congregation, Please rise wherever you are, stand up in
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  Speaker 2: your car at.
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  Speaker 3: A red light and help me.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome Paul Sheer and Jason Manzukus back to the show.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, in per this so much better.
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  Speaker 4: Jason and I. Obviously we have a serious ex M show.
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  Speaker 4: I believe this is maybe the second time I've been
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  Speaker 4: in the serious building.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, true, That's what Jess was telling me. She
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  Speaker 2: was like, Paul is gonna come in the building.
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  Speaker 5: We never never, almost never, And so they what a
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  Speaker 5: treat not just to be in the be in the building,
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  Speaker 5: but to be with you here in the studio.
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  Speaker 4: The real show. Now here's the thing. We're walking down
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  Speaker 4: the hallway. They have you know, big posters of you know,
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  Speaker 4: serious talent, and I and I see you Mark Anthony,
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  Speaker 4: I see Share and then I see Chewbacca. Now is
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  Speaker 4: Chewbacca on a podcast? Is?
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  Speaker 5: And there's a Chewbacca, but there's not There's no Lacy,
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  Speaker 5: there's no Paul and Jasonbaca has.
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  Speaker 4: A full like this is not a Disney owned corporation.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why Chewbacca has his own banner, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and we don't was.
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  Speaker 3: He in here? Was he?
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  Speaker 4: Does?
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  Speaker 3: He have a show like probably like he's probably been
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  Speaker 3: all the Andy Cohen ds.
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  Speaker 4: He does he watch What Happens Live, he does the
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  Speaker 4: Andy coor Andy Cohen Morning Show, and then he does
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  Speaker 4: just kind of like a mixtape show late he did.
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  Speaker 5: I did see him bartend on an episode of Watch
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  Speaker 5: What Happens Live, so.
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  Speaker 2: That I could believe he would be good at that.
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  Speaker 2: But talking, no, no, in the business of talking. Does
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  Speaker 2: we have a photo in the business of talking, and
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  Speaker 2: none of us does does not talk? Do you want well,
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  Speaker 2: he talks, you just don't understand understand.
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  Speaker 5: And we've made to be clear, we've made We've made
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  Speaker 5: none of us, truthfully have made any effort to learn
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  Speaker 5: that language.
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  Speaker 4: You know you want to talk about a scam. Have
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  Speaker 4: you heard about the parents who only taught their kid
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  Speaker 4: kling On? Oh and then like the child detective services
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  Speaker 4: had to take that child away as they should, Well
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  Speaker 4: they should, but it is a language.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, but but who knows. I mean, the
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  Speaker 5: parents might have been preparing that child to be part
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  Speaker 5: of the Klingon empire.
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  Speaker 4: And there you go. That what we need to get
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  Speaker 4: to the bottom of.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: On one side, I'm like, it is a language, and
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  Speaker 2: everything is made up.
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  Speaker 3: Everything is absolutely English made up?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: Why do we have and sent and they're all spelled
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  Speaker 2: differently and they mean different things.
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  Speaker 4: Hymns are a disaster. I live down the block from
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  Speaker 4: a French school and many people in my neighborhood get
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  Speaker 4: rid of it, get it out. But many people bring
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  Speaker 4: their kids there and what they do is they do
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  Speaker 4: all their schooling in French, which I I'm always trying.
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  Speaker 3: To that school.
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  Speaker 2: I have some friends whose kids go to that first school,
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  Speaker 2: and it's an interesting thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, all right, so you are going to immerse
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  Speaker 4: your kids in French? Is I mean, is it wrong
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  Speaker 4: to immerse your kid and clingon? I mean, we have
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  Speaker 4: to get to the bottom of it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, And I feel like cling On is
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  Speaker 2: better than French in America, Like if you if you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna learn a language of school, you need to learn Spanish.
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  Speaker 4: Comic Con every weekend.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like there are more people who speak cling
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  Speaker 5: On than speak Chewbacca's language, so much so that why
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  Speaker 5: why aren't that? I was gonna say, I mean his
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  Speaker 5: planet is Kashik, Yeah, like it does serious? Get to
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  Speaker 5: Kashik like I would it if anything, like warf should
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  Speaker 5: have a show in Klingon for the Klingon listeners.
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  Speaker 3: On business, Tobacca's guests like this, he's not saying that thing.
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  Speaker 4: Tell you Chewbacca poster down.
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  Speaker 3: Serious, we want to get rid of the Chewbacca post.
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  Speaker 4: So you heard it with us? Take it down? What
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  Speaker 4: are we doing? Who are the stars? What are the shows?
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  Speaker 4: Tobacca doesn't even have a show. We need someone there.
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  Speaker 5: People are saying to you, we love scam guys, We're.
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  Speaker 4: Coming to you, we're seeing your live show.
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  Speaker 3: How did this get made?
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  Speaker 2: You guys are feeling the show and then motherfucker Chewbacca
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  Speaker 2: like no, listen replacement theory. The racist got it wrong. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: it was never the brown people.
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  Speaker 4: It was always yes, I'm going to say, is this
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  Speaker 4: He's the problem? Chewbacca is the problem. You know what
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  Speaker 4: end of episode we did?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we did it, we did it. I just want
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  Speaker 5: to make sure we're canceling you box.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we get. We have to make sure people know
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  Speaker 4: Chewbaca has at it too easy, too easy, just because.
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  Speaker 3: We can't we know what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Now I have to ask you both, and you kind
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  Speaker 2: of already started in on it, but what is your
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  Speaker 2: relationship with scams right now? Are any scams that are
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  Speaker 2: in the zeitgeist that you like? Have you been a
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  Speaker 2: victim of a scam? A participant of a scam? It
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  Speaker 2: could be anything as long as imitation.
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  Speaker 4: I will say that where I am very aware of
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  Speaker 4: scams is now with my parents. I'm trying to protect
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  Speaker 4: parents from scams. They're out there, it's easy, they're targets,
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  Speaker 4: and so you have to just kind of always check in,
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  Speaker 4: ask like a follow up question. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: they're being taken advantage of, but I'm just I'm going
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  Speaker 4: the extra distance with them, just a little bit more,
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  Speaker 4: just a little bit more. Like for example, this is
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  Speaker 4: a while ago, my dad's sent me this like beautiful
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  Speaker 4: like postcard on Facebook, a digital postcard, and it was
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  Speaker 4: something like being a father is a great gift. I
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  Speaker 4: love you my son. Right, it was a very like
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, that's so nice and and it
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  Speaker 4: was like a postcard and yeah, and it was in
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  Speaker 4: the However, I looked at Facebook. My dad's the only
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  Speaker 4: person that hit me up on Facebook. I'm not particularly
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  Speaker 4: aware of how it is.
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  Speaker 6: We're we're never clicking these and when I and when
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  Speaker 6: I opened when I opened it to read that it's
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  Speaker 6: really nice.
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  Speaker 4: And then the card flipped and it said paid for
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  Speaker 4: by the the people voting for Donald Trump. And I
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, so like my dad was doing like
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  Speaker 4: like it was like a propaganda like it's like I
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  Speaker 4: will get you in send this postcard to your son.
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  Speaker 4: But then you get a little ad for Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 4: and because.
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  Speaker 5: They're hoping that you will then also support I'm on
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  Speaker 5: board now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, but I've gotten that they've advertised it's a
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  Speaker 4: it's actually a genius scam to create something that looks like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna send this to my son, I'm gonna send
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  Speaker 4: this two other.
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  Speaker 3: People and get triggering like a heartfelt moments and.
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  Speaker 4: Then you go pay for by Donald Trump. You're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: and then it's then I'm on a list. I'm on
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  Speaker 4: a list at that point, the minute I clicked it,
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  Speaker 4: I'm on a list.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like we are now. Like it used to
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  Speaker 5: me that a scam was almost like a multi phase
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  Speaker 5: thing that someone would fall into, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 5: like that that you see like a true crime documentary
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  Speaker 5: or some something being done about those those kind of
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  Speaker 5: con people, you know, people who are perpetrating scams scams.
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  Speaker 5: Now I feel like I am falling victim to a
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  Speaker 5: scam all the time, which is if I just look
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  Speaker 5: on YouTube, I don't know what's really Oh that's a
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  Speaker 5: there's like so and this is exact.
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  Speaker 3: Scam, but it's really is I'm watching something.
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  Speaker 5: I realized recently that like some of the some of
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  Speaker 5: the arc type uh YouTube videos that I will watch
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  Speaker 5: mostly pets and babies are all AI now or I
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  Speaker 5: would say like seventy percent of them.
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  Speaker 4: Mar Deer getting loosen Marshalls, that's a I I just.
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  Speaker 2: Saw one that was like these people are going to
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  Speaker 2: this pet adoption center and they line up and the
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  Speaker 2: pet chooses the owner, and then all these like cute
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  Speaker 2: little dogs and stuff would run up to people and
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  Speaker 2: then they would hug them and they would cry with
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  Speaker 2: the dog like that's my dog because it chose me.
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  Speaker 3: And then I found out it was fucking AI and
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  Speaker 3: then I.
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  Speaker 4: Was like what that's it.
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  Speaker 5: Here's what I will say. That's the scam of our time.
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  Speaker 4: This scam the best scam going on right now. I
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  Speaker 4: still am on X because I love funng. So this is.
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  Speaker 5: Your whole Twitter. I know, this is your whole democracy things.
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  Speaker 4: I believe that the owner has a way to change
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  Speaker 4: this the future. Here's what he'll say. Uh yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: When I'm on Twitter, I follow it because has all
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  Speaker 4: the best sports stuff. But there's a there is a
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  Speaker 4: an account called like MBA Central. It's not NBA Central,
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  Speaker 4: it's like misspell Central. It's an R before the A
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  Speaker 4: and the L. And they constantly are putting out fake
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  Speaker 4: reports so much so it looks like a New York
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  Speaker 4: Times screen grab and they're all jokes, but they are
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  Speaker 4: the onion. Yes, but like everyone gets scammed by him.
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  Speaker 4: So all of a sudden, you will report it. It
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  Speaker 4: will be forwarded around to a million different people. Then
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  Speaker 4: Stephen A will be on back. I can't believe that
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  Speaker 4: Chris Paul said this about Kawhi and it's like and
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  Speaker 4: then you find out, oh, he just somebody forwarded him
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  Speaker 4: a link to NBA Central, which is not NBA Central. Uhh.
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  Speaker 3: Listening to Steve A. Smith, I know he yells it
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  Speaker 3: is hard to.
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  Speaker 4: R next President.
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  Speaker 2: America, I guess I got the last bit of the
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  Speaker 2: free good education because we learned about false facts like sources.
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  Speaker 2: We would never cite Wikipedia. That's a fucking joke. Anybody
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  Speaker 2: can get on there and make shi it up like
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  Speaker 2: it was dot gov, it was dot org. It was like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you you only went to websites for information
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  Speaker 2: that could be sued if they put out misinformation because
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  Speaker 2: they have something to lose.
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  Speaker 5: We're drowning in the nonsense that has been that began
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  Speaker 5: as the idea that Kelly and Conway said in the
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  Speaker 5: twenty sixteen lead up to the twenty sixteen we have
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  Speaker 5: alternative facts, which is an absolutely chilling phrase. There are
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  Speaker 5: only facts, there are not alternative facts.
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  Speaker 2: Well calling them opinion. It's like, if you don't have
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  Speaker 2: the information, you just call it an opinion. I'm opine
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  Speaker 2: and lies and honestly that's a great scam.
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  Speaker 4: Like, all I know is if I get too happy
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  Speaker 4: when I see something or too angry, I should fact
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  Speaker 4: check it, because ninety percent of the time it is
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  Speaker 4: going to be it's it's ai rage bait. It's a
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  Speaker 4: very specific thing.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like in the lifespan of your show, we
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  Speaker 5: have become a nation of scams. Like I feel like
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  Speaker 5: it is absolutely abundantly clear to me right now that
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  Speaker 5: the last bunch of years have been nothing but like
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  Speaker 5: scams on a like international.
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  Speaker 2: Level, as indicator people need to afford groceries, they need
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  Speaker 2: to be able to take care of their families, they
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  Speaker 2: need insurance. Like people are waking up to the fact
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  Speaker 2: that the government is a scam and that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the institutions and the laws and the things that
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  Speaker 2: we have deemed, you know, worthy of our respect are
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  Speaker 2: actually all made up and a lot of them are bullshit.
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  Speaker 5: But the flip is true as well. The flip is
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  Speaker 5: true as well, which is I think the scammers are
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  Speaker 5: weaponizing the scam mentality to tell people even the things
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  Speaker 5: that are real and are good are scams. Like they're
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  Speaker 5: like they're like the conspiracy, like scams are kind of
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  Speaker 5: the same to me as conspiracies, like conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: It is a I do like a tin head you do, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: But I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean like I do like your line of tin hats,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that was a very genius.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll be on pod sweat guys.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, here's my only problem is my head
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  Speaker 5: sweats so much and then they have zero breatheability all
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  Speaker 5: the time.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's like weight metal, but it is nonetheless
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  Speaker 5: at No.
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  Speaker 2: You need to sweat because that's getting wed all the
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  Speaker 2: toxins that's getting This seems.
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  Speaker 5: Like a scam. Now they know these sound like a scam.
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  Speaker 4: Scams.
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  Speaker 2: God, Now, Jason, before we get into historic codewing switch
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  Speaker 2: I picked out personally for you both, I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 2: ask you, is there anything else about scams that has
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  Speaker 2: been ringing your head lately?
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  Speaker 3: I know we were kind of all bouncing off of each.
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  Speaker 5: Other particularly No, I'm trying to think. I feel like
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  Speaker 5: my relationship to scams now is kind of what I
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  Speaker 5: was describing is a mistrust of anything I see, and
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  Speaker 5: that that feels like a macro scam to me.
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  Speaker 2: Now, does that make you feel bad that you're having
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  Speaker 2: to be so hyper vigilant.
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  Speaker 5: It makes me feel bad that I have to be
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  Speaker 5: hyper visually, but it also makes me feel like it's
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  Speaker 5: so much more easy to dismiss looking.
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  Speaker 4: At my phone.
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  Speaker 5: It's even easier to be like, oh, this is full
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  Speaker 5: of nonsense now, so why don't I just not do it?
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  Speaker 4: You know? You see, I would think that you would
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  Speaker 4: have a disappointment with dogs and babies, like they're not
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  Speaker 4: doing enough worthy content.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it is heartbreaking to realize they're not that fighting babies,
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  Speaker 5: They're not that fighting. I wish I would love to, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: if you've got a baby out there and that baby
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  Speaker 5: wants to fight, yes, and to him, listen to him.
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  Speaker 5: These babies, they think they're so strong. Now, anyone wants
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  Speaker 5: to cater to these babies. Oh yeah, they can do anything.
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  Speaker 4: They can do anything. They can cry anything. They can't do.
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  Speaker 5: You know what babies can't do fight a fifty two
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  Speaker 5: year old man.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. Babies can't do it.
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  Speaker 4: They can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: And that reminds me of this very viral video that
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  Speaker 2: keeps coming popping back up of a man on a
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  Speaker 2: plane who was disgruntled with a baby crying for forty
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  Speaker 2: five minutes on the fly, he was like, fuck that baby.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, and they're like, sir, you're yelling. He
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  Speaker 3: was like, I'm yelling, yelling, yell.
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  Speaker 4: I will tell you as a parent, the worst thing
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  Speaker 4: getting on a plane with a newborn or like a fresh,
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  Speaker 4: fresh baby, a fresh baby is the most nerve wracking
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  Speaker 4: situation because your baby is going to act. You don't know.
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  Speaker 4: You just don't know. Like you can have the best baby.
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  Speaker 4: It's a it's a crapshoot. You get on there. It
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  Speaker 4: could be like three great flights, one terrible flight. It
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  Speaker 4: could be their gas, it could be they sleep, they
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  Speaker 4: don't sleep. You don't know to get on. You're already like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm here. I don't wanted to interrupt anybody else. And
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  Speaker 4: then what I realized as a parent was no parent
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  Speaker 4: is not trying to make that baby be quiet? Right
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  Speaker 4: like that was I think my interpretation of it.
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  Speaker 3: Parent.
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  Speaker 4: I have.
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  Speaker 2: Man's side on the flight because it did kind of
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  Speaker 2: feel like maybe the parents wasn't trying to make that
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  Speaker 2: baby be There's.
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  Speaker 4: A certain there's nothing that you can do to force
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  Speaker 4: a baby to be like they want that bag. Every
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  Speaker 4: parent's like they don't want that attention. No one wants
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  Speaker 4: that heat and a.
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  Speaker 7: Baby five thousand feet your ears are popping, like I
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: like the worst thing was when my kids were more sentient,
• 16:12
  Speaker 7: I could speak to them, like trying to explain to
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: them how to swallow so their ears would pop.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Instead they'd be like, I don't know what's going on.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: You know, you know, it's like they're learning all this stuff,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: their bellies everything, So it's parents don't want to be
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: in that position. I was never the person that went
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: around and gave out Starbucks gift cards or like did
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: little packages of candy. I've been next two parents the lovely,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: lovely idea. But I'm almost like, we're humans. We live here.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: I risk, yeah, you got a baby where I can
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: live with it, and I don't need a Starbucks.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Community convenience is a part of community, and we all
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: need to accept that private.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: If you have a big problem with it, like go
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: fucking spend for money.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: And we all have to understand as part of this
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: community that we need to shun the baby we need.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: If the baby is we need to get, we need
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: to send it to the bathroom. Maybe I don't know, there's.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: A closet where the pilot hangs up his jacket. We
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: could put the baby in there.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: More planes need baby closets, proof baby closet. I did
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: believe for a very long time when I was in
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: the throes of a lot of baby travel, I believe
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: that the back two rows of the airplane should be
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: ripped out and it should be a little bit of
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: like a baby walk area something.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Because that's the other thing too, is like.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Mama's got.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: But that's different. She can do that anywhere, and if
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: it's near to me, Hey, that's cool too. On Southwest,
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: you know, that's part of there's a baby going nuts.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: At least let me see a titty, if I mean
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: like that just balances. I mean for me, I'm like,
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: I'm having trouble sleeping or distracted from the Sisterhood of
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: the Traveling Pants to which I'm trying to watch on this.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: All the TV.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: But meanwhile, let me see a titty at least, let
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: me just like, let me sneak a peek at.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: A it's gonna be more national geographic than Playboy.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: I'll I'll take it to thirty five thousand feet.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Thirty five thousand, Oh my goodness, No, I I agree,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and Paul I do sympathize. I don't have any children,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: but I have obviously, like my sister and I thirteen
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: years apart. So I've changed a lot of diapers. I've
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I've raised a little baby. I raise a little collaky baby.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: She was so collicky and she's lucky that I saw.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Law and Order SPU. And that's shaking baby syndrome.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Baby.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: You can't shake the baby. The baby will die.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So I learned that and then I didn't shake her
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: when she I've done everything. She was fed, she was clean,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: she was changed, her hair was done. I'd rocked her,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: taken her out for a walk, everything, and she was
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: just screaming.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: And I just laid on the floor.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done me shake her, that's either thing.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I just slay here.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Most parents are so fried like you are. Basically, most
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: parents are living on that verge of going and this
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: is the old reverence, but going postal. It's like we
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: are we are sleep deprived. I mean I am now
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: way out of it, but we are sleep deprived. We
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: are we are angry, we are overburdened. Like trying to
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: travel with the baby, I'm bringing multiple bags and checking
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: it's life sucks. We want to get in that fight.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: I would. I think if that guy spoke on that planet,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: would have punched him in the dick.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: So it sounds like what you're saying is parenthood is
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: a scam. Not to bring it back to the show, but.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: If you want some very cute, unemployed roommates, then you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: have kids.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: I think the real ID is a scam? Does that count?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Honestly? Anything to get us the fucking d MV. I
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: hate going there.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: I had to pick. I had to go just for
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: the real ID.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Wow, I was like, why this is? I don't understand
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: a passport and a license, I've got it all.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Why do we? Why are we? The real ID is
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: a license?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Just as yeah, for sure, Wait are you working for
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: the Government's got.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: To give it fit energy.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, Now we're gonna move into my favorite part of
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: this episode, historic hoodwings. This is where I'm going to
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: regale Paul and Jason with a famous con kaper scam.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a group of criminals, maybe it's a single individual.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them. I picked
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: this in particular because we know the Paul is a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: huge Clippers fans, and.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Jason loves Shenanigans and if you're going to once I.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Say, the n b A is full of good scams.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: It is so weird. This is pretty recent, you guys.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: And I actually screamed yes when I looked at the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: trial dates, because there won't be any updates.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: By the time that this is.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Sometimes when it's really recent, I get scared that it's
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: gonna be like.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: This is not gonna get to you know what it is? Well,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I have, I have element. But here's the thing, this
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: is going to be interesting because you have the right research.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I think I have an understanding of it, but I
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: think you're gonna actually understanding, you.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Know, And this is this is where I want you
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to be Jason by fly Free. So in October of
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, just as a new NBA season was starting,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: major FBI stings caught former and current NBA players and
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: coaches working in rigged poker games backed by the mafia
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and using insider info to cheat at sports betting on
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: a multimillion dollars scale.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: So we're talking about NBA crime.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Tent and we're talking about two very different things, right,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: because one is like come and gamble with me. The
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: other is come and bet on sports with me, like
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: they are. Are they under the same umbrella or are
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: they so.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: You're gonna see because there is some intricacies here, there's
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: some overlaps.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I heard it.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I think I heard this. Yes, I heard this described
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: on the radio because they The part that the radio
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: show that I was listening to was obsessed with was
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: all that they were so excited that all the mafia
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: guys still have crazy names and because yes, all of
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: the people listed in this indictment or like, hilariously goofball
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: mafia and.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I need that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, thank god.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: We're losing recipes crime, thank god.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Thank god the mafio sos I haven't changed with the time,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: so that it's a bunch of a bunch of like
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: like mafia bosses who are like Braxton.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know Carter Kyle No, no, yeah, come on, oh.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: No, Kyle's coming.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: We're not scared of him.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: So it's so it's Sawyer, you know Sawyer. Oh no,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Sawyer's mad at me.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I'm just happy that we are able to bring these
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: men to justice, and that's a great legal system that
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: we have here in the country. What haang on that
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: we're you know, we have these great you know, to
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: get these great names, right, that's what we're talking about.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: We're talking about these guys were able to fight.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Hang on, I love daddy government.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: This is also strange to your your other take, which
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: is overfund the police. Give them more military more.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Every precinct has two tanks.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Fifty of LA's budget is not enough.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: I thought you were going to say porpoises, and I
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, let's get some porpoises on the force too.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Oh God, get that kind of cops you need. Who's
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: policing the sea? We need them out.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: But that would be white people's next frontier.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: If they got rid of all the brown people, they'd
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: be like, I don't know, who do we police now?
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: How do we put whales?
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: How do we get that?
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: How do we fix a badge to a seal?
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: It's got a great mustache.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I feel like the cops of the sea would be hippos.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Hipp all right, I like that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I don't mind it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Hippos are violet and they can run underwater.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, But like I'm when I think of the sea,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I think of like waves, Like hippos aren't out in
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: the ocean.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where it feel like.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I feel like sharks.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Sharks don't know bitches. I feel it would be whales.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, well so.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Big, But sometimes I feel like whales are so big
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: and so threatened by nobody that they're just.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Like chill out there. So I feel like.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Whales are like, fuck, man, what do you?
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: What? Are you so upset?
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: So you want police to be insecure and harassed people
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: as what you saying, I'm saying the shark.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: I'm saying the shark getting here.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: You're sick?
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Am I am I in thekt am I in the sights. No,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: I think sharks have the mentality of cops, which is
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: just like vicious.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: So you want cops to say the same mentality as
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: they are.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to speak.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Is the music still going?
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: It is? It is? I didn't realize this was a
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: gotcha podcasts coming through the door right now? All right,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: bring us in.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: So a total of thirty four people, including some famous ones,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: were arrested as a result of two multi year, multi
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: sat crime investigations.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: The FBI called this operation nothing but bet I love
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: that the FBI terrible names.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Terrible name because there's so many like nothing but bet, Yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: but nothing but net? What's Oh I see, I see,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I see because.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: It's so funny, it's that's nb B instead of nb A.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: They're so close to n B.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: All nothing but net is like it's not as catchy
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: as like.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, how are you?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: And also like it's not really cute. They also called
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: it Operation Royal Flush.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: These are stupid about you question how much time and
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: how many people do you think are are how many
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: people are spending how much time just naming operations? Just
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: coming up with clever, pun filled nicknames. That seems like
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: a waste of time.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Well, it also feels like that's like you get to
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: that level like ah, yeah, now I've finally got to
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: know Oh I get like I mean them. Yeah, the
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: most senior member gets to name it. I feel like,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: you know, it's like and you can't really argue with it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: It's like, well, you know it was Clarissa, she's been
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: here for a long time. She gets to name it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Having a woman yes, yeah, yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're blaming a woman for a bad name a
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: woman operation.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: She doesn't know anything about basketball because of course women
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: don't watch sports, right, No, no, I.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Haven't been courtside at a Liberty game ever. I haven't
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: met Ellie here.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: I am trying to make the FBI a person, a woman,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: so I didn't seem like it was a male dominated field.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: And then I step in my this is this is
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, oh yeah, well Clarissa, I mean, do you
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: so you're saying Clarissa didn't deserve to be there?
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Person? Well, Clarisa explained it all. So I figured that,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: you know, she's one of those.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: You know, that's why I have a hat on that
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: says him. I had to trick them, I had to
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: check them.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: So nothing but nothing but Operation Royal Flush.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: So for the rigged poker games, the FBI arrested basketball
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famer and current like Portland Trail Blazers head
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: coach Chauncey Billums.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: As well as members of four mafia families.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: They arrested Miami heat guard and tenure NBA veteran Terry
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Rosier and former Cleveland Cavalier player and coach Damon Jones
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: for illegal sports betting. With Insider info, Damon was actually
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: named in both the poker and the betting investigations. He said,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I'm doing all the crime. Get me in there.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Yikes.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Chauncey and Terry were placed on immediate leave by the NBA.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: So we're looking at Damon Jones right here, Damon.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Honestly, this post is giving me like, yeah, put me
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: in all the crime, sign me up.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Well, this is old to damn what the picture Damon
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: is like nineties? Right like? This is this is that's
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: the question books to exist? Yeah, Giannis is on the Bucks.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: They won the NBA championship maybe like three or four
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: years ago. Really there is that's our guy? Oh okay, okay, okay, yeah,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: look at this point average what.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: City is the book?
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Point eight points? Wow?
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Okayamble, he probably needed that.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: It's the last season though, it's just last season that
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: that idea.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Is what what? What city is the books?
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Milwaukee?
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: This Milwaukee. We're calling out a city.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Man. We're getting a little Clarisse interview over here.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, what do you define as a city?
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Not Milwaukee? Not Milwaukee? Wow? Cream City? Cream can you
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: pull up? Can you pull up their Cream City? Jury? Yes?
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: There I'm seeing an't load cream City imagery because it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: of a pornblow.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: So this this is they see cream City. That's their jerseys.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: What cream City. Ever heard Milwaukee beer? You know the
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Vernon Shirley, that's the foam on the beer. Cream But
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: don't you not want foam in your beer? I think
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: it's yeah, you don't get.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Cream Okay, I've got notes on cream City. You can
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: have a bet beer, Am I right? Milwaukee's head of
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: the beer that was like.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Pulp City, Like nobody really like wants.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: That cream City. Baby, Yeah, if Orlando was pulp City.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Pulp City right because of the orange juice. That's what
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: we're talking about.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: That was a good connection.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: So I can't get over cream City.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: I need them to change it about that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I don't cream City.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: I don't think kid kid call it cream City.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Well, I feel like they're every now and then there's
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: a sporting like a uniform or like a logo that
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: gets co opted by popular culture. Cream City feels like
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: that's a great one, like you don't.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Even have you're calling it popular.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying that, like because it would look
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: like like jizz city, like right. And then then like
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: like when I was growing up, all these kids had
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: like game cock hats, right, so you couldn't get in
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: trouble for in a game Cock cat. But it's a
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: game Cock song, right, So it's like I'm City.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Is a wink wink.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's a wink wink, but I
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: would imagine that those jerseys are selling, like, yeah, I
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: got a jizz City shirt like cream. Like it's like
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: you can get away with being a little dirty but
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: so so so.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: But I mean like like in that way that people
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: say about the team that is like go birds, right right,
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: So would people say, like to each other out in
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: the wild, go cream City, go cream? Well this go cream.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Let's yeah, go go cream cream.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: You just got creamed?
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: Okay, well that does work?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Actually, hand sign up cream?
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh. So okay.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: They were steamed and creamed.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: For the poker scheme, not cream.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: This poker scheme is pretty amazing.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: So high network fish were lured into playing poker with
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: a group of fake players, only to be cheated out
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: of money using advanced technology.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Fish like like whales.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: And that's why we need them. That's why we need
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: police officers in that community.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: People out there.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: We don't badge on, we don't need ocean.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Bring it back.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: I don't want to expand any of our police departments anymore.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Domestic coast Guard, and I've had to run from them.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: We need.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: My birthday party was a three day weekend one time,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and I brought my close friends and family to stay
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: in this mansion, and then we had activities that I
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: had planned before the big Fourth of July party, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: we had a yacht party.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: And I should just say fourth of July, fourth of July.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: It is the fourth of July.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: You just went through it so quickly. I just wanted
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: to foreground up.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Everybody knows, why are you going to celebrate this country?
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Celebrate me?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I'm less problematic, very true, but quickly, yes, so we
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: My assistant at the time was trying to kill me.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I stand by this.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: And she booked the yacht and I don't know what
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: the situation was, but I've talked about this years ago.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: But basically, we got on a boat like Pablo, who
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: was a very sweaty man in a pirates hat who
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: was definitely on cocaine, and he led us to a
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: boat that was like kind of like a ten can,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: and on top was this other group of people going
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to their yacht, and on the bottom was us, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: we were all dressed in white. So I told everybody
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: were white. And my friend Anthony Simpson, see I'm shying
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: you out right now. He said, we look like slaves
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: on Easter Sunday because we're waiting on the curb, like
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: waiting for this like man to come.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: And so sweaty Poplo comes.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Up all coked up with his sex worker assistant and
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: we get.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: On this assistant but not sex worker in quotes like
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: as you've been like sex worker assistant, so she definitely
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: is a sex worker and then possibly assistant.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's in the subway, I guess.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: So him get to Cream City.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: So I guess the amount of people that we have
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: for the yacht because we were renting it and it
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't ours, like you can only have a certain amount
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: of people on a yacht if you're renting it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: So big money problems.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: So we were circling and we were in the water
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: like in the Pacific, you know, Marinea dol Ray, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the coast guard kept coming because it's a holiday, So
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: coastguard kept like driving by, and every time the coast
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: car would drive by, they'd be like, oh y'all get down,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: get downstairs or whatever, and so they couldn't take us
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to our boat because we had an the legal amount
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: of people.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: They had to wait until the coast guard left.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, we circled around for like an hour until
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: the coast guard left.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: We're not run from the water police.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: We don't need more of them, all right, Right, So
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the high network fish like we're talking about like NBA stars,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: we're talking about people who get windfalls of money very quickly,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: and oftentimes, especially in sports, you'll see people from every
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: demographic who like, have never had this kind of money
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: in their life. So you're seeing people who are getting
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: out of the mud a little bit. And even if
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: they're from like a middle class home or whatever, it's like,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: you chose to get into a barbaric sport that could
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: kill you.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: So for money that is like for many people just
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: absolutely beyond imagine an if you can get past.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: A season, yeah, which is also a well.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: What was the There was a documentary about this very thing.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: One of the ESPN documentary is called Broke, and it
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: was all about how many people who've made hundreds of
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: millions of dollars in professional sports end up at a
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: still pretty young age broke.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: How because lifestyle, Yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Supporting your family, everybody's got a handout and.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: They can only know for so many years, right, and
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: you are living a lifestyle that, yeah, it will never
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: keep up because your money will just go down down. Now,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: I thought they were bringing in normis, they're bringing in
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: their own they Ah, okay, got it. That's actually makes
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: it way more dirty.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: And having an NBA star like Chauncey, Billups or Damon
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Jones at the table as a face card made the
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: games look legit for members and associates of the Banano
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Gion Novessi Gambi no crime family.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah name three three big giant crime families. Oh no,
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: The names I'm talking about.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Are the people say their first thing.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Their names are like like squeaky Bug, pretty amazing, all
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: like kookie, weird names.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: They're all the the little people inside of the organization.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Now we're gonna save those names for the end of
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the episode.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: So Chauncey won the NBA Finals MVP in two thousand
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and four while leading the Detroit Pistons to their first.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Championship in nineteen ninety, and made his.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: First All Star team in two thousand and six, So
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: he had built himself into one of the game's great
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: two way players.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Somewhere along the line.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: He became friends with Eric Ernest last name Ernest probably
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: not that Ernest, a convicted felon and gambler with reported
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: ties to the Black Mafia family. So On Instagram, Chauncey
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: follows Eric's wife and daughter. Chauncey's wife, Piper also follows
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Eric's daughter.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Chauncey and Eric would sit together at the Rigged Poke Games.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Mid season. They have a thing called the NBA Cup
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: where you are competing throughout the beginning part of the
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: season for this, like the Cup, it's like a mid
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: season championship. Where are they holding it in Vegas? They
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: all find into Vegas and then when you win, you
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: win a cash prize like you ow. Everybody on the
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: team wins a cash prize. And I believed the first
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: year Lebron was like, Oh, I'm just gonna go gamble
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: with this, like because it's nothing money and they're in Vegas,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: They're there to gamble. So this whole weekend that people
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: are there, it's just normal. I mean, Tyleru lives in
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: he's a coach of the Clippers, lives in Vegas. Isn't
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: known to be a poker tables playing not in these
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: rig games, even though people have tried to link them
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: together because Chauncey was an assistant coach and the Clippers.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: But this is like fair, fine, whatever, this is what's
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: going on here. But this is like kind of getting
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: them out of the casinos a little.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Bit right exactly, and getting them out of like the
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: protection of the casino. I mean, we know mobs are
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: ties of casinos, but at least like there's some type
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: of like.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: So this isn't even about betting on games. It's about
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: yet poker game. This is so there's two parts of it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: So the first part of it, know we're gonna get there, Okay,
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: got it, just continue.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: But you bring up very great points, Paul, and so
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: sometimes Jason, your points have been trash.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: It's fair, it's fair criticism.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: So sometimes the poker players used electric shufflers rigged with
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: card readers that would tell an off site handler who
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: at the table had the best hand. So then the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: handlers will communicate to the team of cheaters in the
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: room who would covertly advise the players how to behave
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: in the game to draw as much money out of
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: their target as possible. So they had a very organized
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: machine going here, and they have people with money to lose. Also,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's an overstimulation when you get a
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: windfall of money, where you stop looking at money like
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: you used to look at it.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Oh for sure. I never can gamble. That's the one
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: thing I can never wrap my head around. I can't.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: We one time did a show.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: You guys are so straight edged.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: No, it's because it's like I'm grated crabs.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, because I know when to leave.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Every time I do craps, I at least make a
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: payment on rent or something.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Wow. Right.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a simple numbers game. You just have to
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: have enough money to stand for an hour. I've said
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: this a billion times on this podcast that people are
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: probably think I'm a gambling addict. Like, there's a number
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: you guys can call. I have Ario chips in my
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Cardenza right now fromers. I think I have like five
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: hundred got to catch.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: How often are you going to Vegas or a casino.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I'll say maybe once every three years. I haven't been
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: in a while, but I do got the itch a
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: little bit because I got these casinos.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: If you've got the chips, but I would just go
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: and cash them and leave.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: See, that's a great way to win a gambling leaving.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: That's the only way to win a gambling Once that
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: ship is fun, you need to run because once it
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: gets fun, they gonna take all your coins.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: You said, come around with them freezing the whole thing.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: It is. But I learned from the best.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: My parents are like every time they go to Vegas,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: it's like a free hotel suite and like slight deals
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and stuff like. Yeah, because they because they rip themuff,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: they rip them off in the nave.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: That's what we knew.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: So other games used X ray poker tables that could
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: read cards through felts, or computerized or computerized card analyzers
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: hidden in phones, or specialized contact lenses.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, when I had a contact, you told me about
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: those knockna have some cheating lenses.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Hit me up.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: So these contact lenses could read secret card markings visible
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: only to the wearer. We've really gotten high tech.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: They're really interesting. Somebody was doing these the glasses that
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: they had and the contact lenses, it was like like
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: a very heavy blue like, so everything would look very
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: dark blue to me if I was wearing the contact lenses.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: But then I would be able to see that marking
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: on the card, but you wouldn't be able to tell,
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: and it would be a I could see you perfectly
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: and just everything had a hue of blue. It was.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: And so if someone was holding cards across from you
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: or you saw them, the cards would be marked on
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: the back. You could see, oh, they've got face cards
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: or they've got and you could see what was on
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: the river, you could see what was in you know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: every card is there being dealt out because you're just
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: seeing the car, like you're seeing all the tops of
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: the cards there before people even pick them up and
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: put them in, you know, before even that.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Yep, listen, Scamming is hard work.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: Okay, these people are too much technology now you I
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: feel like we're hearing about this in the context of
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: like big scandal, But mustn't this be happening on SCALEA
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: like this feels like the easiest, like glasses in a
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: way to mark cards seems like a no breaking. Yeah
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: that's a bigger that's a bigger lift, you.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Know it is. Yeah, that was like real tech.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: That's an investment.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: So these games were mostly run out of New York City,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: but also happened in the Hamptons Miami and Las Vegas
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: big scam cities. So the one woman named in Poker
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Probe was Sophia Way aka this is your woman, Paul
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: for inclusion.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Sophia A.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Way aka Pokey, who used to paint portraits for celebrities
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: like Kevin Hart and Jada Kiss and enjoyed hanging out
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: with hip hop stars and athletes before getting busted in
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Operation Royal Flush. So this is Pokey right here. Come
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: on with her Chanel bag. That's at least like seventeen.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: K okay, Pokey. That doesn't look like Kevin Hart. That
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: looks like if Michael Jackson and Kevin Hart had a
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: in the seventies.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: What is this? What?
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: What? That's a weird that's weird. Doesn't look like My
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: mom GotY scammed. My mom got scammed by an artist
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: like Pooky because she had them cute is cute? What
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: do you well? It's a longer story, and I feel
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: like we haven't even tipped into this. I'll next time,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you that my mom got stamed by one
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: of these pookies.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: You gotta come back and tell me about Pooky. So
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Pooky was arrested and then released on home detention. After
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: posting one hundred thousand dollars bail and pleading not guilty
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: to wirefraud and money laundering conspiracy charges, all while wearing a.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: World Series of Poker sweatshirt in court.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: I need to talk about when we get to Chauncey
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: what he wore, because that's a big part of this
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: okay business.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: And Pooky's friend is wearing like full Hello Kitty sweats
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: She said, I got.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: To keep the brand strong, like she knows she was
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: gonna get photographs.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: So she's like, yeah, World Series of Poker, y'all still
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: hire Pooky And and the money laundering and wire transfers
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: always peek up to me because there's easy ways to
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: arrest people.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: For scams and fraud.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: And like we just saw her painting, and I'm not
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: gonna implicate nobody who's bought the plant.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Art is the biggest fraud that you could get it.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: You can't say you were ripped off back. It just
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: was not you know, investment, So but she was.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Right off.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: Well get but like Kevin Hart is obviously paying her
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: some amount of money for that big, gigantic painting.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: You know what Heart is doing.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: I can't, but it could. But it could be. It
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: could be that, right.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for for so many people or none of them,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: or but.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, is that a laundering scheme?
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: You think yes, Heart purchasing art is a laundering scheme.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: And so there's somebody who's saying to Kevin Hard or
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: to somebody, hey, this is well that's that was the
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: picture you showed, right.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: He was just one guy, one guy. He's not implicated
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: in the scheme. He's not implicated. It could be a trouble.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: But meanwhile, but we are pitching though, is the money
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: is going out? We're not pitching how the money is
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: hidden coming in? Somebody say some to.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: These people, here's the way to clean this money.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: This is Pooky.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: She does art, you know, bah bah you know, okay, okay, okay,
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: and Pooky.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Shut up for tracks and five peintents.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: And I'm trying to figure out if Pooki is thinks
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: her art is taking off this is awesome, or.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: She knows what she's doing. She's literally she went to
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: court in a poker.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Well, the way that they are addressed, both people are
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: saying a lot. Yeah, I'm gonna talk about the next
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: person when you get to him.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: So for the illegal sports betting half of the scandal.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Gamblers use private info to bet on at least seven
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: NBA games between March of twenty twenty three and March
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, involving the Charlotte Hornets, Orlando Magic,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Portland Trailblazers, Los Angeles Lakers.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: And Toronto Raptors.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Former and current NBA players and coaches, including Terry Rosie
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Damon Jones, leaked confidential information to the gamblers about upcoming
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: NBA games and player performances. The resulting illegal bets at
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: online sportsbooks and in person casinos made hundreds of thousands
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: of dollars.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: So so basically, like Damon knows Lebron, yes, and Lebron and
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: he's like, you're gonna play tonight, and Lebron's like, no,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna play, but that's not officially announced yet.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: So then he can go and say to everybody, Lebron's
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: out tonight, bets against the Lake.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: It's like insider trading.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he was like helping people.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Like we all know, like parlays pay the best because
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: they're almost impossible bets to get. So if you have
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: a parlay like that with insider information, he was calling
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: the homies and being like, hey Lebron, Hey, how to wife,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: how to keys?
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: How little Lebron doing? Oh yeah, yeah, how you need doing?
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: And so so they could make a bet before it's official.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: The level of eye contact you just were making with
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: me while you were doing that, I was like, this
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: is I feel very connected right now and like you're
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: asking about my knee and my knee like I really felt.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: I really felt like scene in that moment.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Do you think you're gonna stay in the whole game?
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: Damon Deamon was getting info about players for bets, but
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Terry through games.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, Terry was actually we're gonna get into that.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: But Terry was actually telling people who's like you know what,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit out the third quarter or like you know,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play this like he was making the parlays
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: more specific, faking injuries like yeah, which is even deeper
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: inside of trading because he's.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: The one betting.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: He's impacting.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: And on Sports Center Shaquille O'Neill and or inside the
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: NBA Shaquille O'Neill and Ernie Ernie, Yeah, they were talking
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: about this. They were like, we love to bet, we
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: bet on golf, we bet on you know.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: The keys, Michael Jordan's famous football.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Allegedly big big, big gambler, bet too much gambling, honestly,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: but like, oh, that's the whole.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: That's the right, that's the whole room. I know nothing
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: about sports.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: If you don't know the rumor Michael Jordan, dad google it.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to stand on here.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: It's a little dark, but yeah, like they all know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: you don't bet on the sports you play it.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Well, that's a heart and Lebron do Draft King commercials. Right,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: you're watching ESPN and you're watching before he's coaching the Lakers.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I'm forgetting his name right now. Uh, former player. But
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: like all these podcasts have like here's my fantasy betting line,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: here's my betting line. These are the guys that you're watching.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: These are sports stars that are encouraging you to bet. Yes,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: it might be like fantasy, but they are. I wonder
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: if you've ever seen the lebron is in Draftking commercials.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, crazy.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: It does feel like betting has just become absolutely normalized
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: in a.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Way on your phone, which is dangerous, Like go to
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: the race tracks like they used to, and.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: You're not getting and you're not getting those coins out,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: because that's the whole thing these sites is run on. Yeah,
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: you may go up and you might be right, but
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: you're not taking the money out. It's just like you're
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: putting more money in. It's just kind of sitting in
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: a It's just like a laundry machine. It's just like
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: spinning around, spinning around, spinning around.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: And they target young men.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: There's so many young men like college age, like leaving
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: high school who are in debt from sports betting. Because
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: they target the youth, they get influencers who do like
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: comedy online and stuff to do draft kings.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: Hang on, they're doing comedians. They're making jews with comedians.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you get in there. I'd love it.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: Can I send a headshot and resume? Are they still
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: seeing people?
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Jason's on Draft Kicks, I get in, get in.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: He's like, guys, it's great.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: Hey, I'm betting on pickleball.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Literally, they're betting on anything.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Like I've seen advertising stuff. We're like, please
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: don't bet on our children's sports games.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, like Little League. That's how thirsty they are.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: To keep themselves entertained. They need that, they need well,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: this is.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: Part of the male loneliness epidemic, which is, you know,
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: trading on that idea that like you spend all your
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: time looking at sports information online. Now you're an expert.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: You could make money.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Actually, you're going.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: To be rich.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I said this before on this podcast, but I feel
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: bad for the college athletes because they're betting on that too.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: And then when college athletes have a bad game or
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: something happens, like they're getting harrassed.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Online, like you fucked up my barlay and it's like this,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: that's a kid, bro.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: By the way, it's even sadder when it's just your
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: fantasy team and has no money attached to it, and
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: people like harassed players because their fantasy team went down.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: It's like come on, now, come on.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: People don't have much lift.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: The so what Terry's doing the service? Yes, society.
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: Society is over, so I guess everybody is really smashing
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: and grabbing as much as they can.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: It really started to be for real, but it's.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Definitely having to break down. And he used to have
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: a clean veneer, used to have a great facade.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: But now we're full of just big, big veneers.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, so Terry was specifically implicated for the March twenty
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: twenty three game between the Charlotte Hornets and the New
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Orleans Pelicans. He was playing for the Hornets at the
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: time and pulled himself out of the game, like Paul said,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: as a part of a pre planned move. He played
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: just ten minutes before leaving the game with a foot
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: in jo Rey Yep sportsbooks received two hundred thousand dollars
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: in wagers on prop bets for Terry's points, rebounds, and assists.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: So a year later, the IRS placed a tax lian
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: of eight million dollars on Terry, which hasn't been lifted.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Terry was charged with conspiracy to commit wirefraud and conspiracy
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: to commit money laundering. Maybe he was getting someone them
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: pookie paintings. So Damon Jones he has an interesting background right.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: He was an assistant coach for the Cavaliers in twenty eighteen,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: and he famously had an altercation with player j R.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Smith in the Cavs lunch room. Smith ended up throwing
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: hot soup on Damon basically because Damon wouldn't stop annoying
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: him with pranks. Smith got a one game suspension. Take
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: a page out of Media's book with throwing hot grits
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: with throwing hot soup people.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: So here's what I'm gonna say. You know, in these environments,
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: I understand there's a social component to uh to what
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: they're doing. They're always around each other and so forth.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: No pranks, I'm.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: Not interested in. This is the thing. There's so many.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: These are young guys, they got a prank. No pranks.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: I've heard a great story about a very famous arguably
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: one of the most famous. You put it, like a
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: top ten of basketball players would shit in magazines in
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: the bathroom and close it up. And then when people
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: go to the bathroom in the locker room, they go,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: what's this and open up the magazine and there'd be
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: a piece of human shit in.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: So this is a perfect example of a frank that
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: I don't want to be. That is horrible, that.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Is I mean, Dwight Howard is famous for farting in
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: people's faces. Well, that's gonna.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: Those people are gonna get pink guy, and they're not
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: going to be able to play the next game.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: This is what Dwight Howard is. Yes, Dwight Howard has
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: a history of doing some of the grossest.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: Here's what I'll say unfunny. People think that funny pranks
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: is just being mean to yes, horful, yeah, horrible is
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: like yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yeah, that's my ship under
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: your fingernails.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Late pranks. Sometimes an island will play pranks. I played
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: a prank.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: He loves to drink a lot of water, and so
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: he has a ten one, you know, so term to
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: just mean use the restaurant.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: But so, you know, I asked one.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Of the pieces to come with me into his trailer
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: because like, you can't go into somebody else's trailer alone,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: like that's suspicious and weird.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: And so it's like you to do a little prank.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: And so I found this.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Like fuzzy blue mond stir mask because it was like
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: around Halloween last time we were there, and I taped
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: it to the head of his toilet seat and then
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: put the toilet seat back down a.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: Little.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: That is a light hearted PreK, like it was funny
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: that a magazine is insane.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: That's different.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: That's me, that is like, that's that's cruel, that is
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: that's disgusting.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: If you pooping something and we got a fight, like
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: You you know that, I'm going to talk to hr
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: here's the deal. He made me handle his ship. I
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: need to talk to you because then you're rat I'm
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: sorry what this is?
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: Mob? Are you mobbed up?
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: So we have to continue. I don't know if he's
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: a mob or the fence. Now we don't know what
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Paul has going on. So being a player and a
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: coach for the Cavaliers, it's also how Damon got to
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: know Lebron. James Damon later used his friendship with Lebron
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: to place illegal bets on Lakers games. In twenty twenty three,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Damon revealed details on Lebron's injury before it was public info,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: asking his gambling associates to place bets on the opposing team,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Bucks Milwaukee again not Cream cityd So his
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: text said, get a big bet on Milwaukee tonight before
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: the information is out. Exclamation point. Lebron is out tonight.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Bet enough so Jones can eat too now exclamation point,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: exclamation point.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Why are you sending this via text? Bro?
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Like this is a crime. Why wouldn't you call it?
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Years sending text like, hey do to crime fast, it's
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: a good night for doing crimes?
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Like what are you doing?
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: People never think their phone's gonna get confiscated.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: That's insane. And so the Lakers lost the game against
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: the Bucks.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: By else's phone will get confiscated and then your text
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: will be on it.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Or have we all not heard about the nebulous cloud?
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: The cloudy really knows what it is. But everything stays forever.
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: Oh and if you think by doing illegal stuff, anybody
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: in the government, anybody who would be investigating this, they
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: have access to all of it. They have access to
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: the cloud, they have access.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: To every deleted messages forever. Don't push it in writing,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Go get a flip phone. I don't understand why Damon
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: didn't go, you know, giving them flip flows and no key.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: I mean they're doing they're doing mob business. They're doing
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: business with them up. They don't have burners. I would
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: think part of the fund would be going and getting
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: a burner and being like, I've got a burner.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: So, since these crime rings involved both NBA players and
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: mafia families, there are lots of nicknames color listed in
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: the FBI indictment. Imagine your nickname in the indictment. Here
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: are a few selected from the documents.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Jason smiling from her to hear this.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: Is the only thing. It's so funny. This is the
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: only part of this story I have.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: I love this so.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Eric Ernest was also known as Spook.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Marvis Fairley, also known as viz Vezino and Vezino locks.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he was doing with lox, but
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: he was known as that. We have Shane Hennan, also
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: known as Sugar. Damon Jones, also known as D Jones
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: or d E Jones. Not very creative, Damon. You could
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: have did better. What was the better name for Damon Jones?
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Mon Mon Man Man Jones. I like, hey Mon, Yeah,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: hey Mon, hey mon.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that too.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: We have de Niro Laster, which, honestly, that name. You
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: could have just kept mobbing with De Niro Laster. That
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: sounds very mobby.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: That feels mobby.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: He went as Nero Pace. Oh yeah, I like that.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: I like pay so, I like I like Nero Nero.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: If somebody was like Nero's coman, I would be afraid.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: I will be.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Terry Rosette was known as Scary Terry and Chum.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: Because he was chumming the waters.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Read it back to the sea cops.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I hope there's some shark sheriffs
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: around to make sure nothing gets out of control.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: So if Terry's chum, he's the biggest attracting attracting Yeah.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Oh they thought about that.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: I like that good want to be chump? He attracted
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: THEE and he did. Yeah, he's the one that's on
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: that had show up, Chop chop and when up? Can
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: I just say when he showed up to trial, I
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: think he sent a very or his arraignment, he sent
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: a very clear message, which was he was wearing a
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: hoodie that was Rich Paul, who represents Lebron James and
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of giant athletes. He was wearing his sports agencies.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, it was wait can we pull up those core looks, Jess.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: But I thought that was a very damning thing to do.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: Like basically, he's wearing Rich Paul's company's hoodie, which represents
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: all athletes or the biggest athletes. So he's saying here
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: it is like, so you see, I guess everybody and
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: be like so he has the Clutch Sports Group shirt on,
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: which I think is sending a message like y'all knew, Yeah,
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: so I'm not going down, You're going down with me.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: I think in that part of a larger. There was
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: a bigger.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: Many many hoodies you could wear, but he chose to one.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: He wears the one the Clutch Sports Group one that
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: basically says, y'all knew, and that's that's a threat. I
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: believe that is a threat.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: He's like, I almost start singing like a canary if
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: y'all don't. I believe that is rip your judges and
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: your lawmakers.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: I believe he was like, you all knew, you may
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: have gotten profited from this, you may have known, you
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: may have been a part of this. Get out there.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: I'll take down everyone.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: And it's also like, maybe your hands aren't clean, because
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: if he's a smart criminal, he's got some receipt.
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: So especially if everybody's texting exactly like, why aren't y'all
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: texted in five?
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: They're not even on like signal or what doesn't help?
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: Doesn't help?
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Was using signals. Let's do the secret mission on.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Sit let's go too hard on the government.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So Pete Heggs's in the chat being like, there
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: we're bombing the boats at eight hundred and I'm putting
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: ten thousand dollars on Lebron to drop.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Out in the seconds to my friend mon Man, shots
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: shots on Venezuela, shots before Venezuela.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: Everybody can you bet on America's wartime activities.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: They literally are treating it like it's battleship.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: So if convicted their fraud and money laundering indictments, like
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: if they get convicted of these, these defendants could get
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: decades behind bars. Sports betting has been around since the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: first Olympics in seven seven hundred and seventy six BC.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: Christ I mean, that's that's the Greeks. The Greeks invented that.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Tablet.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: These are my people.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: We did it.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: We were oh.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Jason's back, we did it.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: The man Zucas jumped out.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: We made the Olympics happen, and everybody ruined it with betting.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: And I bet back then. I bet back then. It
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: was the Italian still, I think still the Italians that
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: the organized the seven hundred BC version of the Five Families.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: Vincenzo was up there doing it. Benny the chin apollophemous
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: RelA apollo to them.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: The sports betting apps like FanDuel and DraftKings have a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: direct sponsorship deal like they have direct sponsorship deals with
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: top American sports leagues which we've talked about that are
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: worth billions of dollars spread over years.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: Here's what I'll say. There's also something that never was proven,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: and there's a lot of rumor about it. There's great
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: podcasts about it. Rest are doing this in the NBA
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: for a long time, and there's some of the rest
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: are still actually some were indicted, some were not, some
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: are still reffing. This has been an organization that has
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: had a lot of betting, and if like, when I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: look at this, I feel like when they knew the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: rest were doing it, they're like, we should do it too.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: We should make some money too, make some money on
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: the side. You know, I don't know.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know this, so wait, final thoughts here from
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: both of you.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: I love the way that they're doing these poker tables.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: If you're talking about contacts and this is like James
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: Bond level shit, like like and we're scamming rich people,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: you make me feel bad because now I go, well,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: they're rich kids who are having a lot of money,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: then that makes me feel bad. But if you're just
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: scamming like rich people who are trying to find illegal
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: places to bet to get more money than Mike. Fuck
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: them Like, I'm like, You're like, I need to get
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: even more. I can't even do it in the casino.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: It feels like.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: Trickled down scaminomics, you know what I mean, which is
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: like I feel like scams like this used to exist,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: have always existed, but just on a very thin margin,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: which was where illegal betting took place, which was like
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: we were saying, if you had a bookie, if you
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: had a connection, if you had of this, if you
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: had of that. But now that betting has been democratized
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: so much, it's such a wider group of people who
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: can be scammed by the the process of betting on
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: sports and I guess everything else. So it hasn't everything now?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: Aren't we just prisoner to these kind of scams? As
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: long as this kind of betting culture exists and is
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: not just propped up but encouraged by the sports that
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: are being bett on, Isn't this just going to proliferate continuously?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: Isn't this just the tip of the iceberg?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: I guess I also think this at the end of
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: the day, this is a self like inflicted scam. You're
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: trying to find an illegal thing to do like, it's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: not like they It wasn't like they went into people's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: houses and made them play cards with them, right, you
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it's like you were trying
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: to also scam and get some extra money. Like that's like,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: these are things that you're doing.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: You can you rob a bank with your homie and
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: then yo, homie takes all the money you robbed and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: be like he.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: Robbed me from the bank. Right, Yeah, they're they're doing something.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: And not to say that anyone deserves it obviously, but
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: it's like you're already doing something illegal and weird and
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: you get scammed in that. It's like, yeah, the rules,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: you're already doing an illegal things. So you're saying, wait,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: they're they're tricking me the Venetian.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: You're among these Yeah, it's like I think, yeah, And
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: also it feels kind of elitist to me because you
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: could have gambled on DraftKings or whatever the fuck you
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: probably are hawking online, or you could have gone to
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: the casino, but you want to go to a place
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: where there are famous people and it's exclusive and private
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: and invite only and underground. It feels like how rich
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: people always kind of shift. This the financial success indicators,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: because like in the eighties, if you were wearing like
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: a purse that had logos, or if you're wearing clothing
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: that had logos, that was a significant like it was
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: a sign of success, right it was rich people would
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: do that. But then now because logos and brands and
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: luxury brands have become more accessible, either being bootlegged or
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: being you know, resold or whatever. Now rich people have
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: moved to quiet luxury. So it's like I have on
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: an eight hundred dollars hat, but you only know if
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: you know type shit. So it's like y'all couldn't y'all
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: couldn't be with the normies at the casino, No more,
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  Speaker 2: y'all had to have an underground ring with celebrities.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, you probably like, I lost I
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  Speaker 4: lost a lot of money to terrors here last night.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, oh, there's bragging rights on that front, and
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  Speaker 5: then there's the other side, which is helping your buddies
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  Speaker 5: get rich with the insider information.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Like you see them saying, look, look, the NBA
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  Speaker 4: fucked me over. I need more money. I'm broke, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it from the NBA. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: all like it's it's a complicated thing. I mean, is
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  Speaker 4: it a good scam? It doesn't seem like they should
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  Speaker 4: have they should have not have texted as much.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, really where they fucked up?
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  Speaker 5: It seems so dumb and you know, sloppy is a
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  Speaker 5: great way.
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  Speaker 4: And to Jason's point, this is happening in a high
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  Speaker 4: profile place. But that's the whole thing, is that there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of underground gambling going on. If they have
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  Speaker 4: this technology for these guys, they have it in those
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  Speaker 4: places too. The minute you walk into that thing, you
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  Speaker 4: have to imagine that.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like, once you know that the capabilities are
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  Speaker 5: there to cheat at this technological scale, how can you
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  Speaker 5: knowingly participate in that kind of gambling, that kind of
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  Speaker 5: sketchy you know, gray area gambling, you know, basement level,
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  Speaker 5: high stakes blah blah blah, without assuming I'm being scammed
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  Speaker 5: in some way.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I do have to appreciate cheating innovation though.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, That's what I'm saying, Like,
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  Speaker 4: let's appreciate the way they did it.
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  Speaker 3: Cheating the jobs of conning.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, he was like, what if I could
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  Speaker 2: make a table that could look at everybody's.
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  Speaker 5: Car simplicity of wasn't there a guy in Chess a
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  Speaker 5: couple of years ago who was wearing a vibrating butt plug. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: and he was getting messages sent to him from somebody
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  Speaker 5: you talked about.
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  Speaker 2: It was like Morris booty Coat exactly.
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  Speaker 5: So the technology is there, yeah, you know, yes, yes,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: the scam technology and the kink technology finally coming together.
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  Speaker 2: And we love that for us. All right, Well, that
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  Speaker 2: brings us to the end of a very beautiful episode.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. We always ask
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  Speaker 4: Yes. Does she come to every show?
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  Speaker 2: No, but she's come to a few. She was in
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