Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / Tesla Shareholders Defy Court to Back Musk's $56 Billion Payday
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- 0:01Hey everybody, welcome back. To the Elon Musk podcast this.
- 0:05Is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads, the shape
- 0:08SpaceX. Tesla X, The Boring Company and
- 0:12Neuralink. I'm your host, Will Walden.
- 0:16Tesla shareholders have recently voted to ratify Elon Musk's 2018
- 0:21stock options package, appearing to defy a previous court ruling
- 0:25that voided the pay plan. Now, this vote comes after a
- 0:28January ruling by Delaware Judge Kathleen McCormick, which
- 0:32rescinded Musk's compensation package due to concerns over
- 0:36undue influence and misleading information provided to
- 0:39shareholders. Now, Tesla attends that the
- 0:41shareholder vote nullifies the court's decision, thus making a
- 0:45new development in the ongoing legal battle over Musk's $56
- 0:49billion pay package. Now, in January, Chancellor
- 0:52Kathleen McCormick of Delaware's Court of Chancery invalidated
- 0:56Musk's pay plan. The judge determined that Musk's
- 0:59close relationships with some Tesla board members unduly
- 1:02influenced the negotiation process.
- 1:04Moreover, the company was found to have inadequately informed
- 1:08shareholders about Tesla's progress toward meeting
- 1:10performance based targets. This ruling posed a significant
- 1:14challenge to Musk, who had been instrumental in Tesla's
- 1:17emergence as a leader in the electric vehicle market.
- 1:21Now, the recent shareholder vote, which took place two weeks
- 1:23ago, approved the 2018 stock options package.
- 1:27Tesla argues that this approval signals strong support from
- 1:30Musk's leadership and compensation plan, effectively
- 1:33negating the January court ruling.
- 1:35According to Tesla's filing, the final court order should state
- 1:39judgment is entered for the defendants indicating that the
- 1:42company and Musk have prevailed in this legal contest.
- 1:46However, the legal team representing the shareholders is
- 1:49contesting this outcome. They're urging the judge to
- 1:52uphold her original ruling and mandate that Tesla pay them
- 1:55potentially billions of dollars in Tesla stock as legal fees.
- 2:00Richard Tornetta, the shareholder who initiated the
- 2:02lawsuit, has requested 29 million shares of Tesla stock,
- 2:07that's at around $5 billion as their fee.
- 2:10Alternatively, they have proposed a $1.1 billion payment,
- 2:14which they argue is based on precedent but still unfairly low
- 2:18in their view. Now, Judge McCormick has ordered
- 2:22both parties to prepare briefs addressing the impact of the
- 2:24shareholder vote on the case. She has also scheduled oral
- 2:28arguments on this issue for late July or early August.
- 2:31On July 8th, McCormick will hear arguments specifically about the
- 2:35legal fees, with a ruling expected a few weeks later.
- 2:39Even if she does not reverse her January ruling, she might
- 2:42consider the shareholder vote as an indication that Tesla
- 2:44shareholders support Musk's compensation, potentially
- 2:48undermining the fee request from the shareholders legal team.
- 2:52Now, Tesla's assertion in the court filing that Musk won the
- 2:55legal battle over his pay package because of the
- 2:57shareholder votes reflects the company's belief that this
- 3:00approval overrides the previous court decision.
- 3:03Tesla's filing, made public on Thursday, argues that the
- 3:07shareholder vote should lead to a final order favoring the
- 3:10defendants, effectively siding with Tesla and Elon Musk.
- 3:14And the legal team for the shareholders maintains that the
- 3:17judge should adhere to her initial ruling invalidating
- 3:20Musk's pay package. They're seeing seeking a
- 3:23substantial legal fee award from Tesla, which they argue is
- 3:27justified by the value they provided to the company by
- 3:30having the pay package rescinded.
- 3:32Tesla, however, contends that a fair fee might be as low as
- 3:36$13.6 million now. On Thursday, Judge McCormick
- 3:40directed both sides to begin preparing briefs outlining their
- 3:44positions on how the shareholder vote affects the case.
- 3:47She also instructed them to argue on a date for oral
- 3:50arguments in July or early August.
- 3:53And the judge will hear arguments about the legal fees
- 3:55on July 8th and may take several weeks to issue her ruling.
- 3:59Now, even if Judge McCormick does not reverse her January
- 4:03decision, she might consider that the shareholder vote
- 4:06demonstrated a lack of value in winning the case between Tesla
- 4:09shareholders evidently support Musk's record-breaking
- 4:12compensation. This could significantly weaken
- 4:15the shareholders legal team's argument for a large fee based
- 4:18on the purported benefit they provided by rescinding the pay
- 4:22package. And Musk's pay package, which is
- 4:25$56 billion, consists of performance based targets that
- 4:29trigger stock option awards he must hold for five years before
- 4:33exercising when the last target was achieved.
- 4:36Now, the value of the package fluctuates with Tesla stock
- 4:39prices, of course, which has declined by over 20% this year
- 4:43due to weaker consumer demand for E VS.
- 4:46Tesla's defense team, in a motion filed on June 20th,
- 4:49argued that the shareholder ratification vote vindicates
- 4:52Musk's stock options award. They asserted that the
- 4:55consequences of the ratification change the litigations course,
- 4:59in effect any potential relief and attorney fees that might be
- 5:02awarded to the plaintiff's council.
- 5:04Chancellor McCormick, in response to Tesla's motion,
- 5:07wrote that she wants to conduct the hearing on the legal fees
- 5:10without considering the shareholder vote, as a separate
- 5:12meeting will be held to address the votes impact, she said.
- 5:16Given that, we will hold a separate oral argument devoted
- 5:19solely to the questions raised by the stockholder vote.
- 5:22For the purposes of the July 8th hearing, the parties are
- 5:25instructed to argue the points at issue without regard to the
- 5:29stockholder vote. All arguments concerning the
- 5:32stockholder vote will be deemed preserved now.
- 5:35James Park, a securities regulation expert at the
- 5:38University of California in Los Angeles, said there's an
- 5:42importance of considering the shareholder votes impact on the
- 5:44litigation's overall value. He said.
- 5:46My only thought is that the defendant is correct that it
- 5:49would be difficult to evaluate the benefit of the litigation,
- 5:52which is necessary to evaluate the fee request, without
- 5:56considering the impact of the shareholder ratification vote.
- 5:59He added The Mccormick's response likely indicates that
- 6:02she is preserving her options. Attorneys for both Tesla and
- 6:06Tornetta, the plaintiff, have not responded to requests for
- 6:09our comments here, and the case outcome remains uncertain, with
- 6:13significant implications for both Musk's compensation and the
- 6:17shareholders legal fees. Somebody's going to be paid
- 6:19billions of dollars here now. The ongoing legal battle over
- 6:23Musk's $56 billion pay package continues to generate
- 6:27considerable attention, and Tesla's contention that the
- 6:30shareholder vote nullifies the earlier court ruling adds a kind
- 6:35of weird dimension to this dispute.
- 6:37The final outcome will depend on the judge, of course, and how
- 6:42they interpret the shareholders vote impact and her ruling on
- 6:45the legal fees. But despite these challenges,
- 6:48Musk has continued to lead Tesla forward.
- 6:51It's challenging right now. The EV market is dwindling, and
- 6:55the company has faced slower sales and increased competition
- 6:58in their sales. Musk is hinted at developing
- 7:01some new products outside Tesla if he doesn't secure a large
- 7:05ownership stake. This is a high stakes thing
- 7:08going on right now, and the resolution of this case will
- 7:12likely have broader repercussions for corporate
- 7:15governance and executive compensation practices going
- 7:17forward. The involvement of Tesla
- 7:19shareholders and ratifying Musk's pay package shows that
- 7:23this is a complex matter. They have to balance this
- 7:26between shareholders, investors and the board and Elon Musk and
- 7:32also the courts. And as the legal proceedings
- 7:35progress, the implications of the shareholder vote in the
- 7:38final ruling on legal fees will be in everybody's mind and it
- 7:45may disrupt Tesla's stock going forward.
- 7:49So be careful out there. This isn't stock advice.
- 7:52This isn't investment advice, but just be careful with what
- 7:55you buy in the near term if you plan on buying Tesla 'cause this
- 8:00could have a could have a negative or positive impact
- 8:03depending on how this goes, so just take heed there.
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