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Episode 174 | "Ladder Gate" · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:20
  Speaker 1: I want you all to know it might take my 174 episodes but as a patriot and a lover trained out on Tobago, I've found a new official opening for the Corey Shepherd podcast.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: I'm telling ya, I'm telling ya, I'm telling ya, I'm telling ya, I'm telling ya, I'm telling ya, I'm telling ya, I'm telling ya.
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: I brought you in till it.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: Red, na na na.
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: I dressed in a purple, red, white and black.
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: I don't care what nobody say, every can even a ladder day plus.
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: I know all I've seen is an olive mass fight.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: Then say I'm a dandabad.
• 1:27
  Speaker 3: I'm telling ya, we are from, are from Chine Dandabago.
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: I thought Chine, I thought Chine, I thought Chine, I thought Chine, I thought Chine, I thought Chine cause I love Osherelda, sing sing, sing, sing sing, and they like what Chine does cook cook cook cook cook and they like that.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: You need cook cook cook cook cook cook cook cook cook cook cook cook cook cook cook cook cook and we made a company.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to episode 174, the Corey Shepherd podcast.
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: Welcome to all of you.
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: That's glad to have you on board.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: Salute to Nicholas, what Nicholas named New Van, if you wasn't following right, nicholas, new Van is our youth in, I want to say, is New York.
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the man went viral couple times for a few videos interviewing some trainees on his streets.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: You're supposed to know it, right.
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: That went viral among all age groups and one of the people he interviewed was a famous now famous and infamous Mama Juice.
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: Mama Juice, making famous with the juices and say, well, this is to bring it back, this is for if you're sick, drink a ginger, sell a juice on his street and think you know, treat it quickly and find a way to make it happen all the way.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: We can figure it out right.
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: And Nicholas, after going, I suppose, as a vlogger, instagrammer, trying to grow your page all the time, and he hit a lick with this one, so he decided he come into Trinidad and he fly Mama Juice to Trinidad to look to Nicholas for the Mama Juice, come down and carry him straight and he hard to malone to eat something and drink something.
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: And now we had to take on Nicholas's page right.
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: Find him on Instagram is NicholasNuvan.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: Nuvan is N-U-V-A-N.
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: If you don't know, go and find him and you'll see all his interviews, the ones in Brooklyn or in New York as well as the ones here.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: And the man finding funny.
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: He said that people to interview in Trinidad on promenade, dong tong.
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: He learned a lot about Trinidad.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: Some people was very raw, some people was entertaining.
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: He find out what he man was a boxer or something?
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: You know most random people.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: As Trinidad, they're known for having you know random people and random conversations.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: We got to that.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: But I don't like how people try to bad mind Miguel Cherelle man.
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: Cherelle said she could sing, she born.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: So Let her know.
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: He asked Cherelle Way alone to sing like that.
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: She said born.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: So that's my new lick, that's my new language, new slang for 2024, born so.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: So salute to Nicholas.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: Check that out, right, I'll bring all the up to speed with what happened with me.
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: You know because he passed few episodes.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: So look at my boy, captain Biddy.
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: Right, biddy, tell me the other day.
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: He say boy, you used to talk about all kinds of things.
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: You used to talk about sports, current affairs politics.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: He say now all we got in his culture, well, it's kind of a value.
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: It's kind of a value we had to take it far down the culture lane.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: So I don't make sure that I know what happened, because part of my problem now is I don't even know what's going on in the news now, telling all the things get bad with me Somewhere along the line.
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: I realized that to the non-TV.
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: You're listening to the radio and I'm wondering there's a problem for my productivity right, there's a problem for my if I put on morning edition or put on blaze on them on a morning or day.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: I'm Tony.
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: I stuck in front of the TV or by the radio until nine o'clock I still a little old school and my day in and started till nine every day.
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: So I abandoned that.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: But I realized that it make me a lot of touch.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: Plus, had a lot going on in life.
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: You know long time I didn't talk to all of you about just life.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: You know I feel like we spend the whole time talking about about kind of violent competition and all that Long time I didn't talk to all of you had a lot of issues in this life.
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: I want to listen to.
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: You guys go through a lot when many comments run into telling about one percent of business and one percent.
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what was happening to me last week.
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: Right, I went and played some football, normal thing you know.
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: I mean you're taking it a little Sunday evening sweat, everything nice I done, regretting playing no mass and things.
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: So, thank God, all the, all the fetters and the go getters of the carnival season come back out to play a little football.
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: After the sweat a couple of beers come out because, look no more, it clinked me and clinked on a birthday around the same time.
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: So we do a little celebrating and drink some beers.
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: We'll have to clink on a little bit.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: They set up a nice spread, we drink something nice on me.
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: Then I get a call from the musical director, paula Stacy.
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: She say listen, half the lights started blinking, then half the lights in the house gone.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: I want to carry a little earlier back in the year, right when I was only talking about cannibalty.
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: That happened somewhere in January, which is the hardest of manga seasons, because as much as people like this, over one percent, I aspire to be the one percent, but I'm not.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: So January is a rough month and a long month and a month of what is it called?
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: Seven years of farming happening in January and I had to spend a good piece of money because my current went and I had to get TNTEC to come out and do what we call it electrical certificate or the inspection or whatever it is out of.
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: One pay TNTEC a reconnection fee because the fellas come and they take my meter because they had some kind of problem by the meter box, which is say, once it passed the meter is not the issue.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: So apparently it has something named the guts behind the meter and that was short and out of me.
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: So I can't explain that thing.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: I couldn't help you.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: Well, best believe.
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: After I spent that raise in mid January, just last week's days he called me and told me the same thing happened at home.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: So it's under pressure now on a Sunday night and my bad experience is that the last time the electrician tell me should I say this, the electrician say do quality and tech?
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: We go racket this thing right, we go, we go figure it out.
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: They go do what them does, do so to sort this thing out.
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: And in my little coward self afraid, problems I call TNTEC and TNTEC go on with my meter.
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: It take three days for me to get back current in the house.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: Right and lo and behold, the same exact thing come and happen this week now the half that had current last time, that in our current this time.
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: So just the house flipping the next side and you know the half of the wifi gone.
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: I don't mind, but listen, the fridge if you want to give me the fridge and take any wifi, I realize I could survive without current and you know me and Zachary, you can't put on.
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: We make it happen.
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: Last time we had a few days without current.
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: Well, it turns out something else was wrong behind the meter after the men fixed it last time.
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: But in fine style, our neighbor, and it's something you just say, don't call his name, right, you go back and figure out who's run by.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: I want to salute my neighbor, jay, to call me.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: He say he's a fellow who is fixed things.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: You know it has some people who are partner uncle, like the uncle Pogy.
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: He's a man.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: Any little problem you have, pogy.
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: They say don't hesitate to call me.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: He finding a way to fix it and to make it happen.
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: Right and absolute Pablo to Pablo's.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: A man like that, right, but Jay is my new partner, like that.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: So when I reach him and I realize I had a problem, I call my electrician.
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: He say you come any morning.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: Jay called me.
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: He say, boy, I have an electrician, you know, you ever call him.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: Now, no, I'm not spot right, I feeling kind of bad because I don't tell my electrician come any morning.
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: And Jay now telling me he have an electrician that could come.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: Now I feeling our way, but I really want the electrician come now.
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: We think about how forward the electrician pull up and thing he watch the situation.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: He tell me he say, boy, the problem is definitely in that meter box.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: He tell me call the antique.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: Now I have bad experience.
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: I frightened like hell.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: I tell him to them and say, hey, I don't want to call the antique, you know, because last time the antique went with my meter I can't afford to for everything in my fridge to spoil and them kind of thing because now the all right, son have a good day.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now the fridge and thing ain't working.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: If they pull that meter, no hope.
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: So, boy, despite my best thoughts and my best beliefs and my better judgment.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: The men say call me meter.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: And now I studying my electrician now, because when they take that meter and my electrician find out that the next morning he gonna fire me as a client, he go, say boy, you don't listen, don't call me back, go whoever it is called to do anything.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: You call them and fight up with that.
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: So, despite all my better judgment, I call TNTech.
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: Tntech come, this is absolutely electrician, mr Cyrus.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: Mr Cyrus was right there, he explain everything to me.
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: Nice fella, nice, nice guy.
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: We stand up there talking to our Elton.
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: Mr Cyrus is 77 years old, mr Cyrus, looking good, you know, he ever also fighting with me.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: Man, looking good, 77, man, he coming and doing electrical work.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: That was the night I talk more nine, 10 o'clock Sunday night.
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: Well, tntech eventually come.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: Tntech, take about a half or 45 minutes on, when they reach A little better back and forth between them and TNTech, because TNTech was first, song in like a fey who ain't leaving this meter here.
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: No, but everything work out, everything get fixed.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, jade.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: Jade had all the tools in the world.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: Listen, jade gonna have a hardware soon named Jade, mohansing hardware.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: Right, all they was supported, right, but that's on me, man.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: But telling you I go in some more of this, right?
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: I telling you all this for a reason.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: Look how my life is lined up, right, when we tell my talking to everybody.
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you how things follow me After the thing, I so glad lights come back on and he hoes Stacey's smiling again, everybody happy, people is cool, nobody is sweating and all these things.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Mr Cyrus, sit on the one we started talking.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: We're all talking now in the midst of waiting for TNTech.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: He used to tell me about stories, young days, he say, when he was a young fella, he was in YTC and he gave you know kind of little, you know how it is.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: Go.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: And he say a word that trigger something in me, right, he say the police pull him up and they carry him and I'm Maria and they carry him down to the thing.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Now, when I only know that word from a Zandoli calypso, right, zandoli have a song named Iron man and they have a line that say so they take me and they throw me in the Maria and carry me to the female commissioner and if you see me, five o'clock in the morning, two men, police, came searching and before I could put on my clothes all my iron expose.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: So I hear the word Maria for the first time outside of that song.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: Now I'm Maria, google Maria, right, it's just a police van back in there, right.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: So when I hear that, I say but it's so strange that he would use the word Maria and then, somewhere in the midst of the conversation, I tell him, boy Zachary, something and he hear my son is Zachary.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: He say who's your son, zachary Ransom?
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: I say no, but how you know Zachary Ransom?
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: That can be random.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: If you don't know, zachary Ransom is the reigning junior Monarch and might be there for some time.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: I think he will have fewer than junior Monarch Don't quote me but I think he will have good bit and he's clearly going to be one of the stars in calypso and soca of the future, right.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: So when he said that I said but this man know little thing, but he into the culture, he know calypso or something.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: So with any happiness, again my light's back on.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: We pulled to rubber, made chair now in front of the gate.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: We pulled to Eldorado in front of the gate and we started.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: You know how Ramdes bring talk.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: So we started sitting.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: He started to tell me something normal.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: He was in spectacular tense and he was saying I say wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: You're singing in a tent.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: He say yeah, he tried to get in the tent.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: And he said the backstage of the tent is a cutthroat place.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: It's not a nice place.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: It's doggy dog in the backstage of the tent.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: And he say he went up on the tent, he finally get through and he get you right song for several calypso young.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: When he get the opportunity to perform one of the songs or one of the songs that was his and he went up on stage, he say after he performed the whole song, men now come off.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: The men tell him when he come off the stage, men now explain to him that spectacular is a encore tent.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: In other words, you had to have some extra verse below and tell your thing.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: So if you have four verses, you need to write two extra for when you get your encore.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: Or if you only have four verses, you need to sing three and hold back the one to put your encore to come back on right.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Because if you ain't getting no encore and you sing on your walk off, your chances are getting booked for the tent in the long run low.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: And he was using that as an example to say how cutthroat the industry is.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: He say he and these fellas is partner.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: He say Balie is a partner.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: He say there was men, his friends he talking about, and they still leave him to suffer.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: And he makes the.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: They still leave him.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: So it just goes to show there's some of these things that's follow me.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: So with any mixer, the thing he started to tell me he's right song.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: I say well, he man, song, it is right.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: He say well, it's not music.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: I say well, where?
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: Why guitar?
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: He say bring a quattro.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: And he saying bring a quattro, joking.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: So look, jay, that McKasey live with me there.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: He saying bring a quattro in jest.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: I say well, all right, I bring the quattro.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: Now that man started to run through some tune where he ride boy nice, nice tune nice double entendre and thing.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: Listen, I wish some of it was recorded.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: I will get to the point where I started to record my real life, like Nicholas Nuvan and these fellas.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Right, we are just walking around with our camera and recorded because I feel like making a thing up.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: The man sing about five tune, good, good tune where he singing the 10th and the songs we come up with.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: But I want to play for you one of the songs that this man write and I want to go flashback to a fellow who, a fellow by the name of Kenneth Corby, who's celebrating his 65th birthday.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: I could pay age out there, 65th birthday this week and I remember us telling him one year this song is one of the greatest songs ever written in color.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: He's laugh about that up to today.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: I tell him they wanted the greatest song they ever make and he's laugh about that up to today.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Imagine the coincidence that I tell this man this as a child and my current corner and I get a man to come and fix it and the man who come and fix it is the writer of the song pensionality among them a 1990.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: I really don't know Every ten words you speak back to life, 90's more.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: Go low.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: Tell yourself it's true, true, indian, and it's not good and bad.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: It's not being friends, it's eating roti.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: That's why no jeans.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: It's wearing roti the way you had a photo, not to burn and me showing off.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: it is Indian woman at an Indian wedding.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: See how good dancing when he stands and hits him he showed in Go low, aha, go low, eh, go low go low, go low.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: he sing it Go low, aha go low, eh go low, go low, go low.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: So imagine that I get a chance to meet one of my favourite composers, one of my favourite songs from childhood.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I want to tell Kenny this Ask him when he see him.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Also, sidong Neh singing Zandoli, one of my favourite songwriters of all time.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Zandoli, the great Zandoli becoming Sassairas.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Know all them, zandoli, from beginning to end, from cover to cover.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: You know Zandoli.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: And we get to sit down there and play some.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Kaiso, mimio, kcj, the boy that touch you.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: There's that great.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Out of sorrow, plenty joy come.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: And I was talking about my favourite composers, right?
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I tell you it's great.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Kenny's birthday, my daddy's birthday.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Wish him a happy birthday and he is also, coincidentally, one of my favourite composers, one of my favourite songwriters.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Anytime you start a song, it starts to whine.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: You don't have me already Really tight.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: We could be in the usual place.
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: Yes, so come on down and shake your waist For your needs.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: Right must be late.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know you have a date.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: You're both sick of seeing all the bands on night, so anyway, that's it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: If I'm going, you must go with the section.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: If you're from Langdon, pomo's Molo Lomo, just from the section, what's his friend?
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: And they get to know Pomo's check for his action.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: If you look at them and can see your friend and them organization looking for my shit.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: I try to play and play.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: They get to know no time and they are making mistakes.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: Look them up in their body jamming up in the party, jumping and making merry.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: All of them look the worst.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: We come out to have a ball so we have to play ourselves.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: Let me see your mind mirror.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: What's he getting on out of?
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: Get in the section in the street, take a seat and chillin' till the beat.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: Get in the section jumping from the woman shitting the bar.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: Go.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: Get in the section Jumping up, looking whining on the spaget.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: Get in the section in the heat, coming to take over the town.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Then you're gonna.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: You're gonna go down and up and down, up and down.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: You shuck a jam in front of all the ball man.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: Look only, massive, half in the ball.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: We hear your look from captain to coach.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Well, let it be stress, not that sound.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: Yes, all aboard From the run to New York, la and the top of the night and all day, a section baby stage.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: Look them whining in a rage, out of hand style.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Let me one-one bang.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: So anyway, let's live and go.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: You must go in the section.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: If you're coming down for months, hello, hello, come to the section.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: You're suspect and you get to know better.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: Check the section.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: If you're the captain, you can see your partner Born in the section looking for team a treat.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: If I'm not be getting on all time, something right, don't need the backup.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: Look the fucking debauchery jumping and making merry, all of them.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: Yes, the bossy, nice and a pretty body.
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: Yes, man, you come out to have a ball.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: So put your hands up and play yourself.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: Let me see you.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: Let me see you.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: Chum, chum, chum, chum, chum chum.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: Get in the section in the street looking to the beat.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: Get in the section Jumping up, whining on this fucking section.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: We're sitting here the moment shaking the back door.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: Get in the section, whining in the section, whining in the section.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: So in the section, all in the section.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: I say whining in the section banging in the section jumping in the section, shaking, ramping in the section.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: So first song is by Hilton Danzel of the great band.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Second Image Written by Mr Cyrus.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Second song Avengers.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Getting in the section, somebody said Sidney, I know Sidney last time, but written by the great Ken Corby.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: So listen to my favorite song.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Come together at the same time and tell me what your life is.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Talk about TNTech, right, tntech.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I must give them credit because I want to say bad things about them if they take my meter.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: But since they didn't take my meter and they sought now they're not there, I want to say salute TNTech for coming through quick and helping out.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And I see TNTech starring this week too, because imagine the biggest story.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: This is my problem when they tell them I talk more than enough serious issues.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: The biggest story in Trinidad and Tobago this week is TNTech Rescue's Trap Kitten Trending.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Not more important than this TNTech, apparently.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Let me read from the Express here Prince, a seven-month-old kitten who was trapped in the heat atop a 50-foot de-headed coconut tree on Bridge Street, kairani, after pleading for hours for assistance, owner and Marie Rambarant told the Express that the commission had visited a home in Bridge Street, kairani with a truck and a bucket lift and removed the distress kitten from on top the coconut tree, tntech is starred.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Tntech is doing a great job.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Imagine, tntech.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Come here, call out Mr Cyrus to play Golo, fix my light and then head and take down a kitten off a tree.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: For Mr?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: What's your name?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Again, miss?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: What's your name?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Miss Barad, I can't remember the name of the woman, but Salute to TM Tech.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Tm Tech is working hard now.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a TV thing for me, right, it might be a TV thing for me, but every time I see these kinds of situations on TV in the States, who did this call?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Let me know I don't want to say the name of the people they called, because I only know these things from Sesame Street.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: And when a cat stuck in a tree, they called the fire services, right?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: They called the fire brigade.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is called, let me know in the States, right, the fire men, that's who they take down cat from tree, kitten, kitten from tree, right?
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: But here TM Tech is doing her work.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: So me and no other, I don't know, a man like me, me and the greatest animal lover, I don't know, because my first thought was well, why ain't just shake the tree?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Why ain't just shake the tree Cat, I'm nine life, just shake the tree.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: It's a kitten.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: How much life he lost already.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: He must have at least one or two left.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Shake the tree, or maybe they tried that.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: But TM Tech salute to TM Tech for coming on Make me wonder, like, how come the fire services didn't come out and sort all this kitten?
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: That's chosen more words wisely and I want a little know right that, before I go any further as this song, as this is the main topic, I've lined up a fine selection of songs about cats.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Right, I want a little use in right terminology and you write words.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: There's no why in the word cat, right, I've written that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And Tobago, there's no why in the word cat.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I've lined up a fine selection of songs about cats, some of my favorites, right, but I kind of end up finding should I go with a favorite before I tell you?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: But I kind of find out why they didn't qualify a brigade.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I find out why they didn't qualify a brigade, but I want to give you one of the better songs about cats.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Before we get into it, I want to choose my words very, very carefully, because when you put some people in charge, when you put some of these people in charge, right.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: They do it in a rough kind of way, though, so I want to be very, very careful and mindful and respectful about how I play these songs, but would you like to hear my open song about cats?
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna put somebody in jail if they touch my pussy.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I tell them they'll spend their last spending if they play with my little pussy.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Calypso Rose says so.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: He didn't say so, but I tell you, songs about cats is a fine selection.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: The songs about cats might be one of the most popular topics in Calypso where they look at it, although they play a verse and comment and all.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: But I found the reason why TNTech had to show up for this job because apparently they call the fire services and the fire services had a ladder shortage.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I want to read from Ana Ramdas here real quick.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Ana Ramdas from the Daily Express say the case of million dollar unusable ladders has taken another twist, as documents show that a test was conducted on the ladders, following which they were supposed to be returned to the manufacturer.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: If you wasn't following this story somewhere before Christmas, I believe I was talking about this situation with the fire service apparently ordered a million ladders that adapted about a million dollars for the if I want to say it was it six ladders or something like that.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: My count was 20 wooden ladders and apparently these ladders can't work on the fire truck.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: So the ladders really is ladders that will extend from the fire truck.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: So to read on further documents show that Chief Fire Officer Arnold Bristow signed off and approved the 20 wooden ladders in 2019 as Brigade's engineer.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: In response to questions from the Express yesterday, bristow stated via WhatsApp that he was on vacation.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: He added the matter is being addressed by the Integrity Commissioner and at this time one thing I can assure you is I did not purchase any ladders.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I was not the Chief Fire Officer at the time.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: The Express reported on Monday that the Integrity Commissioner and Auditor General's Office have launched probes into the purchase of 20 wooden ladders for $999,000 for the Trinidadan to be in fire service, which initially could not be used as they were unable to fit on the fire trucks.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Anybody ever work on a tender Not a fire tender, right, a business tender like an RFP, like you had to follow the documents.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: These things would be pretty detailed and always Ryan Ramchandani can help me with this topic.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Ryan Ramchandani is a friend of mine who might have some experience doing tenders for people like the fire service, maybe doing tenders for tenders.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Adjustments to the fire trucks gantry through welding enabled the use of a few of the ladders.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: After this was discovered In October 2020, the Express reported exclusively on the controversy with President of the Fire Services Association, leo Ramkisun, disclosing ladders were unusable and demanded approved.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: The ladders would purchase from amalgamated security and information about the ladders, cost and supply were only disclosed after businessmen and activists and croaker enemy Inchan Ishmael had filed a freedom of information request asking for information.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: The integrity commission, by letter dated February 22, 2024, called on Bristol to provide all the information put into the ladders in 40 days.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I have some things to talk about unions in this episode, right, and this is one of the things where, as a capitalist, I like business and seed.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I like to see people take an idea to them as a business and mind the family for generations.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: So sometimes my stance might seem a little bit like these unions put so much pressure on business as one.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: They really want businesses to succeed.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: But these are the areas where your CAF vex with unions are tall, because when I ask for increases, I want you to understand that what a union is?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Do I trade union, the 1% or 4% or whatever, the 002 or, however they say, the negotiation for more salaries, right?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: That tends to be one that is getting national coverage and big news.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: So it seems like all the union is do is talk about people's salaries.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: But I want you to understand that the unions have a much bigger role than just the salary right.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: A big part of what the union does has to do with working conditions and so on.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I remember working in TSTT at one time.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I am a young fella, I must be.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: When I say young, I mean young.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Young.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I started work at probably 18 and that would have been late.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I would have worked plenty summer jobs and internships before that in TSTT, but at about 18, 19 I was working in a place that used to do packaging the envelopes to the bills, right, and I would appreciate that once you had given me my little cacada when the month come.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I did not care about the working conditions, right At 18 years old.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Pay me, just make sure my money running on time and I don't care.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I don't care if the chair ergonomic, I don't care if the working situation is safe, I don't care about the lighting, I don't care about the noise level, I don't care about the amount of hours they make my work.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: If that make me work extra hours for half the hourly rate, I would do it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: They understand you.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: The reality is that unions there to protect people like me from myself, because that is not a good thing Very things that you do in your young days is why you get up at 44 ripe years.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I just want to say there's a big difference between 44 and 43.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: But when you started getting back paying here and your wrist hurting from this because you are one of them all long time keyboard, or your ears, you get to here in one of your ears because you are standing next to this machine clack, clack, clack, making noise all the time and you are inhaling what do you call it like paper sodas filings and you are inhaling that and you end up with some kind of lung condition where you are playing football now and you can't breathe for more than five minutes at a time.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Then you started to understand why the union important, because a youth is a danger to himself, right.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I want to say that when you are young it's very much a danger to your old self unless you get the guidance right.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: So the unions have a big role to play, because I remember the union coming in at that time and saying all working environments was unsafe.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: We all hazard pay to hide, like that part, but they give you some over quotes now because it used to mess up your clothes.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: We had to get uniform allowance.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: They give us like sound dampening headphones so that we're not taking that sort of noise every single day, and you know what I mean.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: The unions make the working environment better and they help us as employees who might be able to see the bigger picture as a youth, for instance, who don't even understand what the bigger picture is to get better working conditions, not just pay.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: And this is the kind of thing that gets the unions upset, because when you're telling me you care to do this and you care to do that, we're pay concern, right, those are usually very, very big figures, right.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: You're talking about in some cases hundreds of millions and billions of dollars.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: To get four or five percent increase across the board and then have back pay for how much years is a big bill.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: But when I tell you, listen to working conditions bad and I have this particular employee who have a back problem and they need an ergonomic chair, that chair costs 12,500.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: That's something like a big amount for a chair.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: And then the management pushing back against this and they had the woman.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: She didn't think and she can't come to work and she had back pain.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: When they're fighting them kind of issues for 12,500 dollars.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: And the union come and see this thing where you order 999,000 water work less ladder.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: The union must make a big story out of this and get upset, because a big part of the issue is that if you do two separate things right, if you run the business efficiently and you eliminate corruption from the business, that 12,500 is a drop in the bucket for what I employed doing for you over the lifetime and what it does to protect that employee so that they could live a good, ripe old age where you could play football for more than five minutes without feeling like you're going to pass out right.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: So it's an important role, but it just come back down to the fact that no ladders wasn't available, that maybe they qualify as service and they say, boy, there are some wooden ladders so we wouldn't come.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: But call somebody else, call Flow, call DigiSell all of them are bucket truck and well, at least somebody respond to the call and TNT was out there.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: But again, given that the biggest story in the country right, anytime the biggest story in the country had to do with cats, I would like to get to a lot of cat songs, because it might have more in this episode in terms of music to play than topics to talk about, because I can tell you, I just wear you Google.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I just wear you, google cat songs.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Don't use no other word but cat, just Google cat songs in Kaiso and see what come up for me.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Because the list is unended and I want to play a song now by the man who might be solely responsible for the most among the cat song.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's what the man like, I don't know if it's just the inspiration that he gets.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the writer sometimes you're a writer have a zone you know what I mean.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Like I was a little to kick and tail and mash him aside.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: A couple episodes ago they was talking about boy and stick fight.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: It's clear that kick and tail have a stick fight kind of vibe.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: So the songs that he write have a stick fight energy.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if one of these man writers was a man who liked cat very much and he sent a lot of cat songs his way.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he liked it or not from since a smaller head and say with pussy cat you mustn't play.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: I was never one to this.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: Obey, never touch a pussy.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: From that day you'll I pussy cat always look thanks, especially the female sex.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: You never know what they will do next.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: Yes, I have a pussy cat complex.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: A pussy could be just born from the time I see him, hit him with a big stone money, grandmama Jane and uncle Steve, they taught me all, I must believe.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Jumpy start to walk at 6 o'clock.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: Rabbit food go bring you good luck.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: But lucky if you put hat on bed when puppy cries somebody.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: Really I don't believe all.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: I'm very superstitious a lot, can't.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you stranger pussy cat is dangerous.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Got to get me scissors and trim off all the whiskers.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Well, every cat lover in town tell me my attitude is wrong.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: But anytime I'm pushing facing me I always get no first time.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Funny, a tiger cat is dangerous, they said.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: But little pussy, you can't run, so gets back and kiss it, you will find you will want it near you all the time.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Really, really curious.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: But pussy looks a furious.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: A friend of mine right now in jail.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: He was in love with pussy tail.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Touch the tail and pussy cat on bees.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Next morning was case with the police.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Another friend we call in more cat, push it, even though some of them have no teeth.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Just looking at them I catch cold feet.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: But when I take a drink, a whiskey, I declare in one pussy.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: If you see your neighbor pussy, I want you, come on, show me songs about cat, don't show me, don't show me, I don't want to know.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Ignorance is bliss.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Talking about unions right headline here from the guy I'm actually some of its as unions in uproar over SRC, proposed pay hike for government officials.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Now again the unions, putting this against the backdrop of the government, saying they have no money and they have into free salaries over certain amount of years and do zero, zero, two, I think was one of the offers.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: And no teachers, teachers was supposed to get back pay.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Somebody got to tell me because like I ain't seen a century back pain.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I thought when they get back pay I go get paid back.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: But like it all works, you know, I mean that might be a cat song to it.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: All reading from the Guardian was it guardian?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's guardian, for trade unions have condemned the salaries review commissions proposed salary increase for government officials.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Vexatious and a slap in the face, insulting, and agree with what this is egregious, I will spell egregious.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Egregious injustice, gross disrespect and betrayal for holy trade unions.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Describe the recommended increase for several of the country's top officials, including Prime Minister, dr Keith Rowley, president Christine Kangaloo, opposition leader Kamala Pesad Becesa and cabinet ministers.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: The government may accept or reject the recommendation.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Now again, we just make a separation the real quick, right?
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Because it seems as though from the banter online, like the Instagram comments and the Facebook comments and stuff it, making it song as if the government is increasing their paid.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: That don't work so right?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: The salary review commission is there to review salaries of the public officials and make recommendations.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: There's no increase that was made formally yet or implemented.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: This is a recommended increase.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I am not sure what is the criteria the SRC is used, but I have a suggestion on what they should use and all.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: It might get vexed with me a little bit, but I have a suggestion on what they should use to estimate the salaries and some of the top positions, as they said here.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: But is not, is not, is not a role in increasing his own pay, or call him increasing his own pay while negotiating against the unions for public servants, right?
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: So it's just.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: It's two separate bodies.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I will say, however, that the SRC is a bunch of appointees from the president and president is our pointy from the government, so some of them things not as separate as we might need them to be, but they are separate bodies.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: The SRC's recommendations for these new remuneration packages come ten years after the MPs and ministers got a pay hike.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: We break this into pieces, right?
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Which means the last pay hike they were the God was in 2014, or I don't like the word pay hack neither.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Last time the salary was revised was in 2014.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Right, I have a partner.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Salute to my partner, one who talks a lot about working on 2014 salaries and how he's a man on the ground and he's fighting for the people and so on is one of the funniest stories I've ever heard French Creole's talking about men on the ground and so on.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: But the last pay hike was in March 2014.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Last while saying pay hike okay, march 2014.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: From the November 2013 recommendation on the SRC's 98th report, prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley's salary will see a huge hike once the recommendation of the salaries review commission what is accepted.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Rowley's salary will increase from $59,680 to $80,000 a month.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: The SRC, however, removed the duty allowance for formally received by Rowley of $8,680, so the effective increases in even sanity of $11,640 only work that much.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: So I understand.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I'm at all in all time, you know, but Rowley's entire immigration package is subject to tax.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: The report recommended Christine Kangaloo pay move from $64,270 to $73,920, tax free.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: The opposition leader will move from $29,590 to $47,500.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: So when I shot in Shannish melt saying that Kamala Passat business says he was opposition leader we ever had, I wonder he checking how much is someone making?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: The pay packets for cabinet ministers will jump from $41,000, the cabinet ministers getting $41,000 but the opposition leaders get $29,000.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Now I want to temper this against the fact that these men could have more than one position, a man and woman.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: So you could be the opposition leader, you could also be well, I might not use as an example, but I could be the prime minister and the minister, national security, so so in other words, I could have a cabinet minister salary of 41 plus my prime minister salary of 59.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: If there's a way is work right.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that it means he could pick up both salaries.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Some places will do a prorated thing right, like if you have a job here, when you take up the next job you'll get a portion of the job.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Like I remember lecturing one time and the school I was lecturing and the salary, the money was nice, you know, when it is a big class, I looking at a hundred students.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: So you had a work for your money, but the money a little nice.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: When you finish the course you could do something with the money.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: And then they call man city class, so big that is.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Split it in two.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: The woman lecture Saturday and Sunday.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I say bet well, mean, ask a question in my mind.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I died double the money because double the hours.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: When I get it checked now the check light is heavy.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: It's heavy but it light out.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: It light compared to where I wanted it to be.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: And in economics, right, they go tell you mankind is spent based on expected income, not actual income, right?
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: So if you expect, because you are making decisions now based on what you will get paid in March month and you expect to get pay March month and Andrew, and why is come after March, april and May and so on, you, you, you make a decision based on your expected income, right?
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: So I don't make my decision based on the expected income, which is to say I don't spend a piece of money already.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: So when my check, when I, when I supposed to get double the money but I get one and a half the money, I in a hole now for the next half.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I don't go with me to see him, so just want to have a meeting with you.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I saw this little check here was he said no, sorry about that.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: He said when you do any course and is the same course and you're doing it twice, we spare one and a half times the amount, not twice the amount.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I ain't fine, it was the fairest thing, but me and them good, and by that time I don't need that one and a half.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I don't know though they're.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: My good friend of mine said don't count again, fall bottom, wait for the layer.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Not sure if they know fall bottom is work, but we have songs about cats to come, so we could do that.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: But these salaries are a few things I want to talk about.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: The salary, right, I understand what the union is doing, but I want I want to assure you, especially if you in a position where these unions not negotiating on your behalf, what the unions doing here is airtime and negotiating tactics and they don't.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: There's nobody in any one of these people, michael and he said any one of them who believe any of what they're saying here.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: They saying it because it will bring a headline story, it will put light on these things and it may put more pressure on the government or the decision makers here to move from 4% to 4.003%.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: They can go move far, but it will put pressure on them, make them look bad or it will agitate their base.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: So if you, if you have, if you representing or he'll feel my bad example, but if you represent the public sector workers, I go get vex when I look into move my salary now, I making our 12,000 here and all again me and Chris here, that would take me to 14-5 and for 2500, all again on.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: So, but only gonna kill yourself 20,000 dollars extra and 10,000 dollars extra and thing, and all again, all yourself, more than my whole salary, and and only making the thing to move me my little 2500 and pay me back pay.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: So the unions will do that and simplify the issue, as if everybody is simpleton right, so they will get public support, they'll pull more pressure and they could this and negotiate and tactic.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I often wonder how come unions, though, or do they take the time to like genuinely educated base, like admit, let them understand what that is, what, what, what is back pay cost the public sector?
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Because we again I always talk here about, we don't seem to think that taxpayers.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Dollars are ours.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: We just, we just want to deal with our net salary.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: So when you making 10 and then going with two, we don't really care what it do it it to, we don't really see it.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: A matter of fact, what our goal is really to get back as much as it to as possible, for we sell so we could get back in a tax break here for a food cart or a grant or whatever them thing is.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: That's what we, we seem to be more interested in here, you know I mean.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: So my take on it is this if the prime minister, this country, I was very worried.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I want to.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I want to go back to Jada.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Jada's not somebody I should doubt very much, because I told them I'll ask him one day.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what a random thing we are talking about.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: And I say what the commissioner police is, make boy, and my point was really to say that she making a good enough salary to buy better wigs right, or to get weev, or that was the real point I was making to dress up nice, and you know I mean many a tall, so you must have presence in a month.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Jad, say all our own 30.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: And I said no, no way, because in my estimation the commissioner police had to be close to a hundred grand a month.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: This is the head of the police force.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: There's no part of my mind that would a tank be.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Commissioner police making 30,000 dollars.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: This is the person who I don't want to say responsible for crime, right, but they have a big part to play in controlling the police who are least responsible for responding to that crime rate.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: That is as high as we have as a country, right, it shouldn't be that high, but it's high.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: So the police is.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: He wants to recharge the responsibility of protecting himself in this environment.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: We in here now and this woman only making 31,000 dollars.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Photographers in this country making more than that.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Ask me how I know.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Ask me how I know that that is not, that is a joke, that is.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: That is craziness.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: This mean that if she going to meeting with community leaders right, if she have a manning accord or whatever it is, the the crown plaza accord, if she have one of the meetings now, there will be people around that table wearing more money than she making for the year.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I wonder if people understanding this or willing to accept and appreciate it, forget about what your salary is and how much money you making, how much money you find you should be making.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: You should be making unlimited amount of money, right?
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: You should be happy.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: And I see, I see a video online the other day, a YouTube channel.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I wish I could remember the name to tell you.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: My memory so bad and my preparation is so poor, but I am saying the video.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: He was looking at in Federation Park in Sinclair area, our street named Prada Street I housed that Maya and the Sunday houses won't by Richard Hazardy person who won't Westmoreland, so on, and he was just saying that, basically, look how smooth these roads are, look at signage and thing he said is how the whole country should be.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I agree with him a hundred percent on everything he's saying video, except when he say you and me could never afford to live here.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I do like them kind of talk where mean me.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: So we could never afford it and we could do in this life together for the live there.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: We could, we could, we could achieve anything that anybody else could achieve.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: What's stopping us from doing that?
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I ain't saying it, ain't saying it easy, but I saying that we could give it around.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: You know I mean.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: But we're back to the Commissioner Police.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: If, if the Commissioner Police making $30,000 a month, how much is $30,000 a month over the year?
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: You know, you bring this down to brass tux right to 2000 by 12, 360, I could have figured out, I'm on, I could, I could do some quick maths in my mind.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I want to tell you that, if it is, she meets in the days, get well, community leaders, them, have on on them, on them is more than she making for a year.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: One of these Prada shoe is a thousand and something US.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, these amiri jeans and these amiri shirt is thousands of US dollars for that.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: These chain and them are reaching these fellas and then by the knees is hundreds of thousands of dollars for them chain.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: If you and well, don't call no name, what you let is buy it by.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: If you let, easy to get one of them's essence in.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: And then men have on two and three the card of them driving to come.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: No, she will never be able to buy the car that they're driving to come there.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I say in all this to say that you in that room, what?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: What do you walk into that room like, knowing that you are the least paid person, use up I don't want to say person.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: You're pretty put your position, have a lot of power behind it, but in some trouble because you're dealing with people who could, who could, who could triple your salary for you out of the pocket today, now we could walk over that.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Who could change your life?
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Only little problem.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: You study all the problem you have in home with your salary.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Now right, and study what?
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: What if you double or triple your salary?
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Was selling house, you move, go somewhere else, you understand.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: So we're walking into that room.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: You're walking to that room intimidated.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: You're walking into that room envious.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: You're walking into that room looking for deal, like a what they could do for me.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Or you're walking to that deal that's a room with the integrity that holds the position and make sure that you do what needs to be done.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Or going back to the, the crown plaza of cocoa, only mean to tell me manning was the poorest man in crown plaza when he had that meeting.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Merit my is hardship.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Manning was seen walking into the meeting heavy.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister making waiters 50, somebody.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Now we were.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Manning was making 20, something to do something and them grand figures that that not cutting it and I know sometimes these figures could song real big compared.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: So if you want to look at public servant salary or entry-level salaries in any industry, but the men, the men in oil and gas making more than this asks me how I know you understand if they get to know they live in that work and go and work somewhere else, fast, fast.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: So the chief justice making $50,000 a month, I hope it not song in too far removed from the ground.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to song like a wrongsman, like my partner, one right, but I hopefully understand and I say in 50,000 that that's a recipe for danger.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Your Prime Minister making, for voices, 59,000 dollars and then you are the ones sitting around a table with the biggest oil companies in the world who making multiples of that.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I am not saying that it will make us automatically corrupt or make a sign raw deals or not understand, but I know saying that right, because it's not the Prime Minister not saying.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Don't say by himself, you have technocrats and you have a big team behind him.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that Honest men, blinking is a real thing in this world.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Honest men could blink and look the other way.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: We not pretend that if me and you were in that position, we might not have enough issues that cause us to say, ok, this among makes a big difference to my life, when in fact, the people we are talking to and the figures that you are discussing is a drop in the bucket for them.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Rumors have it that bags of cash have been handed out in this country for a long time Paper bag with a cash, duffel bag with a cash on them, kind of thing and now watching over Ozarks for like the hundredth time and you see how corruptable government officials could be Just on TV.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Of course, that's not real life, but just on TV.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: But I'm feeling like, if you have a salary and my suggestion to the salary review commission is to start by understanding what are the leaders of the biggest corporations making in this country?
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: They use our index that is based on what they see sweet earns for all the private companies, the biggest companies in the country, biggest companies operating in the country, not necessarily local companies, right?
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: So it would mean in this country that oil and gas is one of the bigger salaries that you could earn.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: So if I start by looking at what the CEO of our Shell, trinidad or BP, tt or well.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: So we have here Big boys.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: If I look at CEO level there and I say, okay, the prime minister salary must be a factor of that, I'm not saying you had to match that and everything that happened there.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: You had to do exactly that.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: If you take a amalgamation of the biggest companies, we go that oil and gas, we go that food and beverage manufacturing and the light manufacturing and the service sector, right, I think that's our biggest sectors.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: If you take the big boys there, top guys, and you look at what them is get what them is get housing allowance, food allowance, travel allowance, whatever it is, plus the salary, plus bonuses, whatever you take that and you start to use.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: So if you say, alright, we must always stay at 85% of what the men is or what we could afford, 95 or we could afford 65, so that when they move we move to, because this is grossly below where it needs to be.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I would think for the prime minister, the rough figures in that I was in a group chat discussing the other day was 250.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: That's the national coach Listen, national coach making more than these men.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Ask me how.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I know this is not right.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: This puts us in a very precarious situation.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Number one if we continue to do this and this is why we probably where we are now, or one of the reasons why we are now because it's attracting the wrong people.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: So people will go into this knowing that the salary incursions and box drain go out of the field of gap.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Right, you make out that what you will.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: The other thing that will happen is the public sector will only attract people beyond the ones who are looking for the box drains, who are past a certain age and stage in the career.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Because, let me say, I have a little brother who is about 20, little bit right, I feel his name, young and bright, and the energetic and the whole world belongs to them.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Anything they put in mind to do they could achieve.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: They are young and healthy and strong and go getters.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: He study abroad and do a lot.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: He would have life goals for himself.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: He might want to start a family, he want to buy a house, he want to invest, as all of us would have wanted to do.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Right, if he looking at a career path now, how am I going to earn my money to allow me to live the lifestyle I want and secure the future that I am looking forward to.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: He have options.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: He could work with us in a company here.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: He could go and work in your island guys.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: He could travel and work.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: He could do different things.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the salaries in the public sector now and in the politics not attractive enough for him to earn what he needs to earn To be able to live the lifestyle, get to the family, get to the security of the future and so on, and buy land and whatever things he want to accomplish right?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: So I just saying this because I do expect him to.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I do expect a 25 year old, 27 year old man to just become prime minister of the country, just like that.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: But suppose he want to contribute in his area and become a consular.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: If it is MP, what would they say MP earning here?
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: If it is MP earning 40, what would you think?
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: A consular earning how much?
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: A consular getting a man in the corporation?
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: So if you want to make a difference at that level, what you have to do now work for 5, 6, 10, whatever it is when your prospects for your career, because of how much you study and how much you invest in yourself already his prospects put him in a position where he could probably earn 50 and he probably earn more than that a brother already.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: So he can go now and say well, I go, hold up 5, 7, 5 and contribute, unless your parents independently wealthy and you have inheritance together and you could meet your goals as a top demand calling and you could meet your goals as an aside.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: If you make it like this, what will happen is people like him, who young and strong and healthy, or people like me and you, who was once young and strong and healthy and could move and shake, we will seek our salaries elsewhere and make our money somewhere else.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: And then when we reach about 50, when we have something secure 55 or 65 or however long you take to secure it, when you reach there, then we will say all right time for we to give back and time for we to contribute to society.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: And then you have a whole society like Ken Gordon, who we can have 95 years old and now trying to give back in the public sector.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Or you have a parliament with the average age of 153 years old because his salary isn't good at all.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know what again.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: So, firstly, you are attracting the wrong group of people.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Second, it's going to be hard to attract youths to come into the system because that means if he goes into the consulates again into the politics from very young and he could make his financial goals there by the time he reach 35, he have 10 years experience in the politics and so on and you are looking at somebody who is running at the highest level, at the ministerial level, at the prime ministerial level, opposition leader level and so on, who could use the Chief Justice as an example.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I wonder if all you know are lawyers.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: All you know are lawyers.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: All you watch is what is drive and where they live and how they eat and where they travel and all you know are them.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: When the Chief Justice making $50,000 a month, he could only do that job after he make his money and retire that retirement work now, because $50,000 a month is a huge downgrade to what a lawyer is.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if to say I sit in judge because no one not sure if the Chief Justice making $50,000, what judges make the lawyers making more than $50,000 a month?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Come in and go and ask how I know Pilots in the pilot association.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: They are making more than that.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Ask how I know these figures are very, very skewed and they are not a good reflection of where society is and how society earns and how society lives.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: And once them figures is the way they are.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Once you have a commissioner or police who earn $30,000 a month and we making our first move to $39,000, speaker or the house, what to do?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Lololala every week.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: $29,000 on the 30,000 a month, you can have first move to $42,000, $30,000 for the Senate President $39,000.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Non cabinet members to the tree $39,000.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Cabinet members 41 to 47,000 MPs, $17,000 to 20,000.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: People working supervisory level and middle management in the financial institutions making more than MPs.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I wanted to compare from the consequences of both jobs.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: What is the significance of both jobs?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Which job you could do home quietly and nobody don't know who is you, versus the one that everybody know who you are?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: What is the level of pressure in them?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Jobs I mean there are men in financial institutions at basic levels earning more than an MP.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I ask how?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I know right, but again, me and coming here to run me and coming here to go on too long, I as a man, really untruly just come here to play songs about cats.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I don't want to think they get too serious.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: I don't ever want it to get too serious.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I just want to come and play my little cat song on them, and this song by the man who is most who has the most cat songs of all time.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: It might be a suggestion for Wally to really want these politicians on them to do.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: If you're a friend, have a pussycat, they call big families.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: If you're a sub-competitio, sell it.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: Get some cash, cause you know, you see, if you're a young and a salary pussy, and bring all the cash to me.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: I love you, baby, but I can remain hungry.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: This salvation, it could finish just like that.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: But you've got to sell it pussy.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: Sell it pussycat.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: She complainin' oh, she have this cat and she burn.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: She would sell it.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: She won't even put it in porn.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: But before I have to choke and rob and perhaps end up in jail, let me tell me, friends that you have your pussy pussy.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: Sell the pussy and bring all the cash to me.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: I love you, baby, but I can remain hungry.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: This salvation it could finish just like that.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: But you've got to sell it pussy.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: Sell it pussycat.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: I love you, baby, but I can remain hungry.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: Unemployment is what rarely have me so broke.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: You could fell down.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: If you sell it in a standard world and I promise you won't have to sell for more than a year or two my dinner, she would have enough cash to buy a treat pussy for you.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: I say sell it pussy and bring all the cash to me.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: I love you, baby, but I can remain hungry.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: This salvation, it could finish just like that, but you've got to sell it pussy.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: Sell it pussycat.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Asparos say unemployment right.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Vishana Fagu, from Youth Unemployment, says youth unemployment is proportionately higher than the national average.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: It's used in the country.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Right when you see, this is never a good sign.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: This is from economist Dr Marlene Atts.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Well, the article is by Vishana Fagu and they talk.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Have some words here from economist Dr Marlene Atts, a name you might know.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Right, the fear of remaining unemployed after years at universities prevalent among graduates and those waiting after graduation.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: And for Shamila Singh, it has unfortunately become a depressing reality.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Singh earned a degree in social work from the University of West Indies in 2019.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Express Singh, who earned a degree in social work from the University of West Indies in 2019.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Express feeling like she has been begging on the streets for a job since graduating.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: It's frustrating and assign a helplessness.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I feel as though I'm on the streets begging not for food but for a job.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: The sad part is I am still paying for my student loan.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I do voluntary work for freedom to rise and nonprofit organization and, although I can give my time, I am not able to help financially as I would love to do.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Stress sing Now.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: According to the latest data available from the CSO, the unemployment rate in this country fell during the third quarter of 2023 when compared to 2022.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: According to the central banks, stated in the latest economic bulletin for 2024.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: The unemployment rate, measured 3.2% in the third quarter of 2023, markedly lowered only 5.4% recorded in the same period last year.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: The declining rates unemployment in 2023 aligns with the observed strength in the domestic economic activity led by the non-energy sector.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Number of persons or jobs increased by 20.8 thousand persons in the third quarter of 2023.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: The unemployment rate is lower now.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: This information, however, does little to help sing.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I am at the point where I want to give up.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: The employer's consultative association pointed out that the unemployment rate, according to the CSO, is particularly high among young people, standing at a rate of 9.3% as of the third quarter of 2023.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: They went on to break down gender and so on.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: In terms of gender, the female unemployment rate measured 4.1% in the third quarter of 2023, markedly lower than the 6.2 recorded in the same period a year prior.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the female participation rate decreased from 47 to 48%, while the male rate is increasing.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: A few things I want to pull apart here.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: When you see the unemployment rate going down, but the rate of the unemployed among the young is getting higher, or not going down.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: That's, of course, a issue, right, because then you have people who join in the workforce without much options to get work.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: They don't know where is the clear career path or how they are going to get employed.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: And then the second part of it is you see a reduction in the rate of unemployed women, so more women getting work versus males in the workforce.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Where seeing an increase in the amount of unemployed males.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: It's two things that I had observed over the years.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Right, I have lectured since I think 2010 is when I was second.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: All the way I have been in a class with more men than women.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: In a class now with 52 people and I think they have about 5 or 6 men.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: That has always been the case and that is a good representation of the numbers and the way the numbers have been.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: For many years when I start lecturing, they might have been not that big of a disparity.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: If I had a class with 25 people, it might have 8 or 9 men Always had more women, but now we are finding there are smaller and smaller percentage of men in the class.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I wonder sometimes if we plan for these things as a society.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: We take a look at it.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I was talking to my partner as well who was in Yui, and he was telling me that when I was on campus, I was on campus with a bunch of good people who a lot of us remain friends up to today, but he was telling me that the young black male is missing from campus as a whole.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: You are not seeing them at all.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: You will see the girls, but the young black men they are not on campus whatsoever.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: It's a worrying sign in that what was happening with the youth or the young men who was striving for tertiary education when I was in Fatima might be a bad example.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: That probably skewed, but when I went to Tranquil, a good bit of the youths in Tranquil Wait, I was saying upper level when we were in Form 6.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: When we were in Form 6, a good bit of us were talking about tertiary education.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Form 6 was a route to tertiary education.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: So I mean all of us, several of us, were in Form 6 together.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: So that's all for today.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Thank you for watching.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Coming my good partner, sheldon, comments from tranquil yesterday and Sheldon told me do couple degrees and a master's degree and he gonna finish up his lower degree soon.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Rest in peace to my boy, marlon, who was also a if you had seen me a police officer who unfortunately lost his life in a altercation in Kuba last week.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: He went tranquil as he was in form.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Six others as well, our Westman James, I believe Westman is Chief Justice in Belize or something like that.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: I hope I have some part of that right.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: But all of us was in tranquil in the levels together, and everybody who I was there with was looking at what they going to do at tertiary level and how they going to improve my service here at the same birthday she doing great things traveling the world, I think.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: She working in oil and gas, roger Ceeley, all of us I would boil all these names too, but all of us were there looking forward to what happens next, like where we going for tertiary education.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: So if you have less youth going into tertiary education black youth in particular, and black men, even more isolation I think that it tells you about where the society is now and how we got here, and it gives you a good idea what to expect in the next 10 years.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: You know I like my career in poverty and know that I'm excused for crime, right, but what I used to hear a lot on Salute Naldo and Jude, who used to do the alternative perspective podcast.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: A big part of what they used to talk about is not so much poverty and linked to poverty and crime, but linked to disparity and crime.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: So, in other words, if you have too big a wage gap or two, you have people who, making good money, seem to be corrupt and doing well and you have people who, no matter how much they do the right thing, they can't see the way at all.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Is really where doing is is you're creating a tertiary level education for a criminal sector that will come up in the country over time, unfortunately a criminal sector.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: We get stronger and stronger and stronger over time if we do do something to arrest it drastically.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Arresting it by getting more youth interested in bettering themselves and making them employable and they could see the right quote, unquote, right part.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Getting them to the financial goals and so on is one way, but that's gonna take a long time.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: So that change that we talking about in the education system, or that change and more youths being unemployed or coming out without with a degree and no kind of work, that didn't happen overnight.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: And reversing it ain't gonna happen overnight either, but it's a little bit of a worrying statistics I want to talk about a little bit here because I'm not sure what is the development plan to change this.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: We still have a system where and we propagate or we prop up a system for a long time where, no matter what it is, you want to study what it contributions to national development, what industries we have here to absorb those people and to help them not just to get a job and to get pay, but to help them have an outlet to achieve the goals and to achieve what they want in life and self-actualize.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: You just learn people going to the tertiary education systems, home and abroad, pay for it out of taxpayers dollars and you're just in care what they do.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: It does seem as though there was any national policy that says okay, what we want next year is a proper industry in, let's say, we want to do garment manufacturing.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I was just reading something that said that garment industries are one of these things that you could look at as the whole developing nations or whole cities or communities develop in developing countries.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: So when you do garment manufacturing, it employs particularly women.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: A lot of women still get employed.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: They learn a new skill, they start actualizing.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: They can help their families and the communities grow around these garment factories the fellow was talking about in places like Thailand and China and no South Africa and so on.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: So let's assume you want to do garment manufacturing, then is it that we have a CUT and a UE that say, okay, I will incentivize you further if you get into things like design and merchandising or textiles or whatever the degrees are?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: It seems as though we just don't have a.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: We don't have a plan.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: We don't have a plan for where we want to be as a country and then what will be the human capital that we need to take us there?
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: So we put in youth in our position to win.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: We put youth in our position where we just basically tell them if you get a degree, you'll be alright, you know, I mean, if you will be fine, you get a degree, you're gonna do better and you're gonna.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: But again, when you do that degree in social work and the government is your largest employee in the country and we're not doing more to develop the social work arm of the government, the pay in great, you know.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, what does it create for youth to go in in there?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: And then, if there is a case.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Why not direct youths away from there and start doing some counseling at a national level to tell them okay, these are the degrees that we're going to pay for.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: These you gotta pay for out of your own pocket and we tell anyone time, listen, if you take a loan to do this thing.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: The social sector small here, so you gotta go Canada and we help you to.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: You know if you're not helping youths fulfill the dreams we have in our major issue.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: But again, not what I hear for, not what I am here for, just food for thought, right, food for thought.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Again the biggest story in the country because all this went under the radar.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: I don't nobody in saying not more youth unemployment, but cats in a tree.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: So why not come here and find for you the greatest set of cats songs that they ever had?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: They have one in particular that I like a lot by an artist that I also like a lot, and I want to play that thing out.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: This is a man by the name of Blakey hold on.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 8: It's one way to get a relief.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 8: So the plan one night to capture the thief and the calling by the neighbors, son and the boys, to push the cash standard around the running wheel oh.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: I am Ba-da, ba-da, ba-da, ba-da ba-da, ba-da.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: Ba-da, ba-da ba-da, ba-da.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 8: Ba-da, ba-da, ba-da, ba-da, ba-da, ba-da.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: The first time nobody did do is a position to keep it, so the person is sent home for the CID, the worries of a man hanging around selling power.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 8: Well, the police men then tell them that the time of the year is not a human friend.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 8: They go to believe the police was right until the January procedure.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 8: Tonight they run in the streets.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 9: Holy cozy, holy cozy, holy cozy, cozy, cozy, holy cozy, holy cozy, holy cozy, cozy, holy cozy, holy cozy, cozy, holy cozy, holy cozy, cozy, holy cozy, holy cozy.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Holy cozy, cozy, cozy, cozy cozy, all night long, all night long, all night long.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 8: Some lighty, busy people run all the cars with knife and bowl vessel.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 8: I fell on the calling keep away.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 8: I've a bad old, just like my tippy.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 8: He say play key long time I planning for when I war rockets him, I'm on blank spill, I get red.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: If I hold up to see tonight then you run the day holy posy, holy posy, holy posy, I'm gonna see it.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 9: Holy posy, holy posy, holy posy, holy posy, holy posy, holy posy, holy posy, holy posy, holy posy, holy posy, holy posy.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 9: Hold holy posy, holy posy, hold holy posy, holy posy, holy posy, hold holy posy.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 9: Historically holy posy, holy posy.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: Old väleta burg��, la lover, la loverожет, la loverfront side root ball la lover, la lover, la lover.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: Yoy, yoy, yoy, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la la la, la, la la.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 8: That night was a big confusion.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 8: Men with big stick all in the junction, my neighbor, I missed a lot of cost.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 8: Why all you men so advantageous to dump them big wood and go back home?
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 8: The cow to be is one cat alone the girl.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 8: So bexman sees that of mine.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 8: Oh, little hen, I'm pushing my Ha ha ha ha.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 9: Oh my, my, my, my, my, my, my mirror, king R스� Pig is there is.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Please say the great, make you, boy, hard to beat.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about and again I probably gonna name a segment of this podcast, the Michael Mondizzi segment, right?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: Well, you know all you know about love here with his fella, right?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: And here are the articles I wanted to highlight real quick.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: A little bit of Cannaval again, right, I don't know where you're all to the Cannaval, but the headlines are perfect 10.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Leon Smoot Edwards making panorama history.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: I want to highlight that real quick.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Leon Smoot Edwards created history at the National Panorama Finals on February 10th.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: He was one of the all time leading 10th large conventional bands titled when his Massey Trinidad All-Stars titled BP Renegades for the 2024 panorama title at the Queen's Park, savannah in Port of Spain.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: The win put the legendary Trinidad All-Stars arranger in a class by himself and one title clear of the late iconic BP Renegades star arranger Jit Samurai.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: You know, jit, it was All-Stars 11th overall win, having won their only other title with Rudy Wells arrangements and of the late Maestro Kitchener's Rhinorama in 1973.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Only Desperados, with 12 titles, and Renegades, with 13 now, have won more than All-Stars.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: Smoot, however, humbly shied away from the individual plaudits when the kitchenery pointed out the remarkable feat on Friday and instead said that the band itself securing 11th title triumphs his individual accomplishments Quoted as saying.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: I think the significance is more for the band than myself.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: I've been a member of the band since 1968 and it was always our members' ambition to be number one.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: We strive, we work hard and we burn the midnight oil to make sure the band could still carry on today.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: So many other bands didn't make it this far.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: All-stars in his heart, now 72 smooth lives, breeds and bleeds trinidad All-Stars.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: He joined the band while attending Queensborough College as a 16-year-old.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Back then, smoot says leadership was the foodest thing from his mind, as just playing on the All-Stars tenor front line was an honor enough.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: I just joined to play to be a member.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I never knew I would be in leadership.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: In those days there was a certain satisfaction you get from just playing.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: I can't quite explain it.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: It was as though it was a calling.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Everything else went out the window when you played.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: You was just happy.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: There's a joy that comes from playing the pan.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: Every trinidad and Tebego national should get a feel.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it has to do with the instrument being born in Trindad, but coming up from the early days.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: Well, from a lower class family without a piano or any household, they had access to a pan and you could fully utilize it.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: In late 60s Smoot found Trindad All-Stars a disciplined bunch of panists.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: He recalled the band leader, police sergeant Jerry Jemot, running a very tight ship.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Smoot said he followed that example when he took the helm in 75.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Let's say from the first day it was the band ambition to be number one, coming under Jerry Jemot, our old sergeant from the police band.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: He put that sting in us when the other band was sleeping.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: We was laboring, trying to protect our craft.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Is that same attitude I bring to the arrangements, leaving no stone unturned during preparations?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: It's important because you don't want the standard of the band to fall, not under my watch.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Listen, he went on to talk about being your own critic and being meticulous in his approach and so on.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: But there was a particular part of this that I want to highlight Again.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Congratulations to All-Stars, congratulations to Smoot.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: I mean that's an amazing accomplishment.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: To pass the names of Jit Samaroo will go down in history and to put your name your name was done well in history, right, but to solidify it and have the most panorama wins as our ranger is our accomplishments and our feet on its own.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: The leader he is, because I love this part where he talks about every Trinidadian should play pan and feel what it feels like, and he talks about not being able to explain it right and saying that is like his calling.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: This thing is from here and it's of us, and this is why we're trying to be talking about.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: When people say this argument is still going on about who will copy Trinidad Cannaval and nobody will come back for Cannaval and cannaval will be dead and prices too high and it's just a cycle.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: The copying of Cannaval, as I said a few episodes ago, is really just the commercial aspects of Cannaval.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Is business people copying our business?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Is Starbucks making money in the States or somebody wants to bring a Starbucks down here?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I think we have a franchising model that could rival the Starbucks and McDonald's and KFC as well.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: I mean not looking at that.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: We have songs and fets and mass bands and things that people franchising and taking around the world is the only genre of music where when you have a hit song, it guarantees the last year because we have a Cannaval on tour until it reach back here next year January and I think we underestimate that sometimes and we're so frightened to lose it that we're not willing to let go at all, and stifling it more likely to kill it than letting it go.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Don't worry about people throwing fettin' Jamaica and flight price to go Jamaica and the focus on what we have here and the elements that we have here that, as smooth as we can explain, is something inside the way that we can explain, and that is why people will pay to come here and see the thing here for themselves.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: People go to the Louvre not just to see the paintings themselves, but to be a part of the experience that the Louvre gives.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: The things in the Louvre is going to tour them.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Things could be in other museums and other places in the world, but the Louvre is going to be one of the longest lines in the hot sun and the highest prices for things to stay.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: People go in Disney for a reason, right.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: People go in there for a complete and immersive experience which Trinidad and Tobago Cannaval continues to offer, and salute to both smooth and Michael Mondes if you're always staying up to date, but if you mention Kitchener and you just want to talk about a song about Cat, I don't think you could leave it, though I have a topic you could talk about without finding a song from Kitchener about that the gear one.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: The gear one.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: The gear one.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 6: The gear one.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: The gear one.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: The gear one.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: The gear one.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: The gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: The gear one.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: The gear one.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: The gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one, the gear one.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: We might not only be making the World Cup, we might be looking to win the whole damn thing.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Dream Big, you know what I mean, let me, let me just tell you.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: But hey, what's smooth?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: Say Smooth, say something inside me that I can understand.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: Dream Big, go after where you have to go after, right, be number one.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: So I look into the Bundesqualifier now, if they're under 20, doing so good when we looking to win this thing.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: I can't know what to say.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: I know I can't know what to say.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: I have a thing to go and do.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: This week is a very long week, so I'm getting out of the dugout.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: I can leave with a few.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: I have a few want to leave with, you know, because they have somebody again who, I want to say, is like the king of cats.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: It's a king of cats because there's nobody who have more cats than the great mighty Sparrowley over here.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: Sitting in me at a composing summer music.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: A strange conversation captured my imagination.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: I thought I was dreaming, I thought I was going crazy.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: Next to where I said ma orat was questioning ma orat how do you put this on no man's power?
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, sparrowley mad at them.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: I'm listening.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: What we, what we did, let me, let me try this again with Sparrow.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: He, he he.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: Music, no my, have a cat, nothing wrong with that, but she never soup.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: Have a pussy too.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: These girls and their pussies living next to me, I carry, I carry.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: I catch me back here in when they pussy me cause.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: Whole day, whole night, pussy quarrel me, they're scratching, they're biting, they're screeching, they're fighting.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: Whole day, whole night, pussy quarrel me.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: I get up, I set up, I fed up.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: They wouldn't stop.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: Whole day, whole night, pussy quarrel me.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: I got a shit on the bed with a pillow on the head and Whole day, whole night pussy quarrel me.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: Music.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: No, my pussy cat never catch a rat, but this my ghost shawing so ugly and fat.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 5: One morning I took him one holding his side.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: So much noise pussy made the whole neighborhood wake.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: I have to run and hide and hold him, hold him Whole day whole night, pussy quarrel me.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: They're scratching, they're screeching, they're biting, they're fighting.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: Whole day, whole night.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: Pussy quarrel me.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: I get up, I set up, I fed up.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: They wouldn't stop.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: Whole day, whole night pussy quarrel me.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: They're scratching, they're biting, they're biting they're holding One of my favorites a little slower by the gay ass slice of it, and maybe it could be.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, it takes some years, but it might be the first time I'm playing a black prince song on this and I don't want to tell you it's not the first time I had it to play.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: It's just that all black prince recordings are so long and somebody may really stop.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: But I want to get this one because I like it a lot.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 7: Da da da da da da da da da da da da da, da da da da.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 7: Boi-rooi, boi-rooi, Ba-da-da-da-da-da, bak-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 7: Every man does have a different desire Some love to pull rank or be a old leader, some love to become old basketball player.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 7: Doctor, my district a prominent lawyer.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 7: Talking about me, prince only have one desire.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: And what is that?
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 7: Since I used to run about in Diapaa.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 7: And now I'm going over the hill.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 7: You know, I still have the will.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 7: What?
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 7: Oh, it's just one wish I want to fulfill.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 7: Yes, to kill a cat has always been my desire.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 7: To kill a cat Ever since I was a young fella.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 7: No big stick or no hot water, just strength and stamina, what my girlfriend tell me.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 7: The thought is divine and I'll only kill a cat in my mind.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 7: Da, da, da, da, da da.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: Da, da, da.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: And then we go over to Black Prince thing here and then you go to sleep and play in Black Prince and the play and Black Prince was great as well.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: I have to leave you with this one because it's important.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: Last week I came here and I did my Cannaval Wrap Up, which I enjoy doing.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: I enjoy seeing the back of Cannaval.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: As much as I love to see Cannaval come, I like to see it go to.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: Let me get back to some sense of normalcy, but I want to salute the great chromatics and leave you with this one.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: Cannaval Wrap Up 2024.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: It's how much to say about it?
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: Because it speaks for itself.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 4: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: Cannaval Wrap Up 2024.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 4: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: It's how much to say about it because it speaks for itself.