Latest / Black Girl Interrupted Podcast / Tyre Nichols Case Updates
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- 0:11Black Girl. Y'all already know, how's your rokie. Y'all already know how
- 0:32that girl? Whoa, whoa? What's up? What's up? What's up?
- 0:53Y'all, y'all already know who it is. Y'all know it's your girl,
- 0:56ash Baby, bringing y'all another another episode of Black Girl interrupted. I
- 1:02don't know what is going on with this stream. I don't know why it
- 1:07just keeps. I don't know why I keeps doing this. But anyway,
- 1:11but your Girl is back again. This is gonna be a short episode.
- 1:15We're not doing anything long, anything big tonight. Just wanted to bring y'all
- 1:19the update in the murder trial of Tyree Nichols. Of course, for those
- 1:23that may not remember, he was the young man that was brutally beaten by
- 1:27the five black police officers in Memphis and a seat. So just wanted to
- 1:33bring y'all the updates, just kind of let y'all know what's going on with
- 1:34the case. But y'all already know how I do. Before I even get
- 1:40started doing my shows, y'all already know I have to do my mental health
- 1:44check in, so I need to make sure everyone is good. So,
- 1:48oh goodness, today is Wednesday. It is humped ay, y'all. We
- 1:51are two days away from Friday. We are almost there, y'all, So
- 1:55just just hold tight, just hold tight. I promise we gonna make it.
- 1:57I promise we gonna get there. So y'all already know I always pay
- 2:02something that's encouraging, something that's a little empowering, just something that kind of
- 2:07helped get you on your way throughout the rest of the week. So before
- 2:10we even jump into tonight's conversation, here we go. What do you do
- 2:20when it seems like suffering won't stop? What do you do when it feels
- 2:29like you're pain doesn't have a point? What does it do when it feels
- 2:34like your weakness is continue to worsen. Maybe you're taking a knockdown concerning your
- 2:40finances lately. Maybe it's with your kids, maybe with your marriage, maybe
- 2:45with your health, maybe some other arena of life. You're laying on the
- 2:47mat, gasping, and you don't know what you're gonna do. People ask
- 2:53you how you are, and you say fine, but you're not fine,
- 2:54and don't even know that. We're people. We're people, and we struggle
- 3:01and we suffer, and we bleed and we cry. And if you think
- 3:04that true strength means never showing any weakness, that I'm here to tell you
- 3:07you're wrong. You're wrong, because it's the opposite. You're gonna get depressed.
- 3:15Sometimes, you're gonna have weeks where you don't feel like eating, where
- 3:20gravity is working over time, like it's afraid of getting laid off, and
- 3:23you can barely lift your fork to your mouth, and you are going to
- 3:25have a choice. You have a choice to either give up or keep going,
- 3:34give up or get up. It's like you have to save your life.
- 3:46All that is going to be able to save it for you. So
- 3:50we have to do what we have to do, no matter what it is.
- 3:55We all struggle, if we all know what it is to her,
- 4:01we all know what it is to have pain in our heart, and you
- 4:06know what, it's okay. And that's just a part of life. As
- 4:11much as I hate some of the parts of my life, depression has dragged
- 4:15me down to in a lot of ways, I'm grateful for it because,
- 4:19yeah, it's put me in the valleys, but only to show me there's
- 4:21peaks. And yeah it's dragged me through the dark, but only to remind
- 4:25me there is light. Life is not always good. Life is not always
- 4:30rosy. Life is worth living. When you fail, try again and again
- 4:41and again, hold on to that fundamental quality of faith. Have faith,
- 4:50and on the other side of your pain is something good. I believe that
- 4:58this is your beginning, have to be your end, that just because you
- 5:01are currently here, this is your present circumstances, that life don't have to
- 5:06end for you right now. This might be a page in your life,
- 5:11It might even be a chapter in your life, but it ain't the book.
- 5:14Baby, You are not finished writing yet. So I need you to
- 5:16get busy living. Are you hearing me? I need you to get busy
- 5:20living. There is still time. As long as there's breadth in your nostros.
- 5:25As long as you can wake up in the morning, you still in
- 5:28the game. Which means if you're in the game and there's still time in
- 5:31the game, still time left in the game, you can still win the
- 5:34game. The last chapter of your story has not been written yet. The
- 5:40fact that you're here today is a testament to the fact that the devil hasn't
- 5:44been able to destroy you. You're in the darkest place in your life right
- 5:47now. You're at the darkest place in your life right now or off.
- 5:51Don't give up, don't quit You at the darkest point of your life,
- 5:56if you can just look at your situation from a different age, realize that
- 5:59you beast comfort yet. Are you in a storm? Are you just in
- 6:03between two miracles? You take those terrible events in your life and you create
- 6:10a new story of triumph. We gotta become something new. We take those
- 6:15traumas, we take that pain, and we allow it to become a part
- 6:18of who we want to be. What if I told you that there's greatness
- 6:25on the other side of your darkness, that there is joy on the other
- 6:28side of your pain. What if I told you you got everything you need
- 6:33to make it through your storm. This storm will not take you out.
- 6:39And I know you've been tired, and I know it's been hurting, and
- 6:41I know it's been lifelong, and it might be an addiction. It may
- 6:44be wondering how much longer you're gonna have a job, or when you're gonna
- 6:46get one, or when this is all gonna be over. But you're not
- 6:49gonna die in this triumph. You're gonna make it. In fact, you're
- 6:54gonna be better. I want you to look in the mirror, and I
- 6:57want you to tell yourself, I am a survive Listen to me, and
- 7:00you can get through this. I want you to speak life into that thing,
- 7:03whatever it is was frustrating you, like for real, you feel like
- 7:08I can't go through another day like this. I can't have do it,
- 7:11I can't take it. Listen to me very closely, say it with me,
- 7:14and breathe life and show whatever that thing is, whatever your circumstances are,
- 7:17say with me, I can't, I can't, I can't get through
- 7:20this. I will. I will get through this. I must let me
- 7:56say this. I always always have to encourage somebody, so I always try
- 8:03to find some of the best videos that I listen to daily that helped get
- 8:07me through the date. But I think this one here just really kind of
- 8:09hit me the hardest because I know what it's like to want to give up.
- 8:16I just had a conversation with my sister today and I was telling her,
- 8:18I said, you know, my goal for this podcast is to be
- 8:24big and be bigger than where I am, and regardless of how many people
- 8:28show up, I'm going to continue to show up for me. So I
- 8:31want I challenge everybody dig deep because everyone is born with a gift. Everyone
- 8:39has a gift. Everyone's born with a gift. But I really need you
- 8:41to dig deep, and I really need you to figure out what is your
- 8:43goal and what is your purpose in life. You know, I was just
- 8:48telling one of my co workers today, I said, you know, I'm
- 8:52blessed to be employed, but this cannot be my my all bo. I
- 8:56don't want to work in corporate America anymore. Really want my podcast to be
- 9:01my way of life. So regardless of how big and how small my accomplishments
- 9:05are, I'm still gonna celebrate regardless because the small accomplishments helped guide me and
- 9:09get me to the bigger ones. So I encourage anybody, like I said,
- 9:15find out what it is, dig deep, take time for yourself.
- 9:18You know, I'm blessed to be given a platform and to be able to
- 9:24utilize my gift to pour into people, to love on other people like they
- 9:28should be loved, you know, to be able to be very transparent with
- 9:33my journey and the things that I've been through in life. I'm blessed that
- 9:37God has kept me thus fought. I'm not gonna lie. I've had weapons
- 9:41that have formed against me, but a lot of them haven't prospered. I've
- 9:45lost, I've bounced back, I've lost again, I've bounced back. But
- 9:48just no, it's not where your start is where you're finished. So I
- 9:54always try to encourage you. I always try to push people. I always
- 9:58try to share my story because again I know what it's like, and I
- 10:03want you to know that no matter where you are, no matter where you
- 10:07are in your storm, you got this. Don't never give up, keep
- 10:11going, keep going, keep going, don't never give up. So I
- 10:15think that video that I played tonight was just really on point. It was
- 10:18on key, it was on topic. And I hope that each and every
- 10:22episode that I bring to y'all every week, I hope that's helping you in
- 10:24some kind of way. I hope that's encouraging you. I hope that's empowering
- 10:28you. I hope that's uplifting you, because we need it. With everything
- 10:33that's going on in the world right now, we need it. We need
- 10:35as much love and encouragement as we can get possibly. So I'm gonna keep
- 10:41doing what I do. I'm not gonna let anything detour me because I'm here
- 10:46to tell y'all twenty twenty four is about to get its major for me.
- 10:50We about to blow up y'all twenty twenty four. We claiming it. Whatever
- 10:54happened in twenty twenty three, were leaving it in twenty twenty three, because
- 10:58I'm here to tell you twenty twenty four, baby, the bomb is gonna
- 11:00be real. No matter how much we lost into it in twenty three,
- 11:03we about to get it tenfold into ay twenty four. So I just want
- 11:07to encourage somebody. I just want to love on somebody. I just want
- 11:09to pour into somebody. And y'all know I do that before each and every
- 11:13episode. I always it's imperative that I do a mental health check in.
- 11:18Even if I do it at the end, I need to make sure y'all
- 11:20are good mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually. Whatever it is that y'all
- 11:24need me to do. If y'all need me to pray for you, if
- 11:26you need to talk, if we need to laugh or we need to cry,
- 11:30that's what I'm here for. That's the gift that God blessed me with.
- 11:33So I love y'all again. It's Wednesday, Happy Wednesday. It is
- 11:37hump day, baby. We are two days away from the weekend. Yes,
- 11:43oh, I'm so happy. I promise, I'm so happy. But
- 11:48I want to jump into tonight's topic. Like I said, it's not gonna
- 11:50be long. Hey, sister, that got my call. Wait, I
- 11:54think I got it right now, there we go. There we go,
- 11:58Baby, I got it. Oh well maybe I don't know. Okay,
- 12:03there we go. Now I got a whole lot of heart. But I
- 12:05love you more, big Sis. I promise you and thank you so much
- 12:07for the conversation. Thank you for always being my ear. Thank you for
- 12:11always being my shoulder. Thank you for getting me together when I be falling,
- 12:15when I be slipping. I appreciate it, I promise you, and
- 12:18thank you for the beautiful and continuous support. I just I love the way
- 12:22you pour into me. I love the way you encourage me. I love
- 12:26that even when you fit, when you see that I'm falling, you're coming.
- 12:28You pick me back up and you'll put me back on my feet.
- 12:31So I appreciate you for that. I love you for that. I'm grateful.
- 12:35All right, So enough of the mushit talk. Let's get into tonight's
- 12:39topic. Like I said, tonight's show is not going to be very long
- 12:43just wanted to bring y'all the updates with regards to uh, Tyrie Nippoles.
- 12:48Again, Tyrie Nichols was the twenty nine was he twenty nine? Oh y'all
- 12:54hold up, don't even give me look, Yeah, twenty nine who was
- 12:58beaten for a period of three to five minutes by five black Memphis police officers
- 13:05back in January of twenty twenty three. There has been some updates with regards
- 13:11to this case. First and foremost, I want to start off with,
- 13:16there have been federal charges. Federal charges have been filed in violation of Tyree
- 13:22nicholas constitutional rights. So, federal charges have been brought amongst the five black
- 13:28Memphis police officers that have been indicted on let me get their charges pulled back
- 13:35up, give me just one moment, y'all know normally, so they have
- 13:39been charged with second degree murder. They have been charged with aggravated assault,
- 13:43they have been charged with aggravated kidnapping while possessing a weapon, and then they've
- 13:48been charged with aggravated kidnapping causing bodily injury. Again, federal charges have now
- 13:54been filed against these five police officers for the violation of Tyree Nichols constitutional rights,
- 14:00which I feel is rightly so because they did violate him. I'm not
- 14:05showing any footage of the beating the night in January because that's just it's triggering
- 14:13and it's just a little bit too much. Anyone that wants to see it,
- 14:16you're mother welcome. You could google Tyree Nippoles on YouTube and you could
- 14:20pull up the I think I believe the videos were in total like thirty five
- 14:24minutes, but they were broken down into several parts. But I do feel
- 14:30like it is rightfully so that they did violate again his constitutional rights because he
- 14:37was pulled over for allegedly reckless driving. They said he was intoxicated, they
- 14:43say he was high. It was just all types of things that he was
- 14:46acting very erratic. But for those that have seen the footage, we did
- 14:52see the reaction of Tyree nipples. I mean, how would you feel if
- 14:58you were at a stoplight and for police cars box chewing unmarked vehicles at that
- 15:05they were part of the Scorpion Unit, which was put together by the chief
- 15:09of Police in Memphis, Tennessee. And of course for those that do are
- 15:16that are familiar with CJ. She was actually responsible for the death of a
- 15:20ninety two year old woman in Atlanta back in the early two thousands. She
- 15:24was over the task units. I can't remember the name, the Red Dolls.
- 15:31I'm so sorry, the Red Dogs. That's what it is, the
- 15:33Red Dogs. But again, federal charges have now been filed against these five
- 15:39black Memphis police officers in Memphis, so absolutely waiting to see the outcome.
- 15:46I believe the trial is tending to start in November. But there has also
- 15:52been some motions that have been filed. There has been a motion to sever
- 15:58which means one of the police officers that has been indicted feels like he should
- 16:03get a separate trial from the other four police officers. I do have some
- 16:10information for you, and let's step off up into it. Here we go.
- 16:18Today, the Justice Department informed the family of Tyree Nichols that we have
- 16:23charged five former Memphis police detectives with federal crimes in connection with the death of
- 16:30mister Nichols. United States Attorney Kevin Ritz and Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights
- 16:36Kristen Clark will detail those charges shortly. On January seventh of this year,
- 16:41Tyrie Nichols was just minutes away from home when he was pulled over by law
- 16:47enforcement officers sworn to protect him. As the indictment charges, the defendants in
- 16:52this case, who at the time were serving as detectives with the Memphis Police
- 16:56Department, brutally Beatnickles. They then failed to render medical aid to mister Nichols
- 17:03and further failed to tell emergency responders that they had struck him repeatedly, even
- 17:10as his condition deteriorated and he became unresponsive. We also alleged that while mister
- 17:18Nichols lay dying in a hospital, the defendants conspired to cover up their crimes,
- 17:22including by falsely stating that mister Nichols had actively resisted arrest. Weeks after
- 17:30mister Nicholls's death, the Memphis Police Department released body camera footage of the incident.
- 17:36The country watched in horror as mister Nichols was kicked, punched, tased,
- 17:41and pepper sprayed. We all heard mister Nichols cry out for his mother
- 17:47and say, quote, I'm just trying to go home. We alleged that
- 17:52the defendants charged today wilfully deprived Tyree Nichols of his constitutional rights, and that
- 17:59their actions were resulted in his death. Tiree Nichols should be alive today.
- 18:06I want to express my deep condolences to mister nichols loved ones as they continue
- 18:11to grieve the loss of their beloved son, father, brother, grandson,
- 18:17and friend. Officers who violate the civil rights of those they are sworn to
- 18:22protect undermine public safety, which depends on the community's trust in law enforcement they
- 18:29dishonor their fellow officers who do their work with integrity every day. The Justice
- 18:36Department will continue to hold accountable officers who portray their oath. And you're going
- 18:45to absolutely tell he's reading from a teleprophther but we we just gonna carry on
- 18:49with the conversation. But again, yes, the federal charters have been filed
- 18:55against the five black Memphis police officers who have been charged with immer the brutal
- 19:00beating and the murder of Tyree Nichols. I do still continue to pray for
- 19:07the family. I pray that justice is served. I know that no time
- 19:12that will be implemented to these officers, because I really feel deeply they will
- 19:17be they will be convicted. But I do know for a fact there will
- 19:19never be enough time to constitute or equate to bring their loved one back.
- 19:26It will not justify the pain or shield the pain. But we will just
- 19:33have to sit back and we will have to wait with regards to that.
- 19:36But again, as I stated before, there was a motion that was filed
- 19:41by Justin Smith to Daris Bean and I cannot remember the other police officer that
- 19:48filed emotion to sever which, in other words, in in English terms layman
- 19:55terms, they want to be tried separately. They feel that trying to fire
- 19:59police officers together they will not get a fair trial. Let me say this,
- 20:04you did the crime together. You need to y'all need to be tried
- 20:08together. My honest, open opinion, and I'm not really familiar with with
- 20:12the laws in Memphis, but I do feel like if they are all tried
- 20:18together, you get a better chance of getting a convention versus them being tried
- 20:25separately. I did just receive an update. Give me just one moment,
- 20:30let me get back over here. This was an hour a goal. This
- 20:34was just sent to me, so y'all forgive me waiting on it to hop
- 20:38back up. I had to jump off into my internet, back into my
- 20:41email. I'm so sorry because I do communicate with people that are really closely
- 20:47following the trial. People that actually live in Memphis, that actually have access
- 20:52to the documents that they have been sending to me with regards to this case.
- 21:00I do see on Monday that a judge did deny the requests from three
- 21:03former months police officers to have several separate trials in the death of Tyree Nichols.
- 21:10So that is a good victory for the family, It says the attorneys
- 21:15representing to Daris, being Desmond Mills and Justin Mill Justin Smith, had filed
- 21:19motions asking for their cases to be severed from those of Demetrius Ailey and Emmett
- 21:25Martin on the grounds with their clients would wouldn't get a fair trial if they
- 21:29all had to face the jury together. Over the January seventh beating of Nichols,
- 21:34the judge who was overseeing this case, James Jones Junior, issued an
- 21:40order saying that severing the cases isn't necessary to protect the defendants' rights to a
- 21:45fair determination of their innocence or guilt. And then it goes on to say
- 21:51Nichols, twenty nine, died three days after he was beaten by officers,
- 21:53with the incident captured on police video So that is one victory for the Nichols
- 22:02family. And I definitely agree with the judge who says, trying you together,
- 22:08trying your separately, it's it's I believe the verdict will still come out
- 22:15the saint. Let me go back with some more information, y'all, just
- 22:19give me one moment because unfortunately I cannot show y'all this documentation for legal purposes
- 22:26and to protect the innocence of the officers and the other people that are involved
- 22:32in the case. Let me go back, give me one second because it's
- 22:38a lot of information. So y'all forgive me for this. But yes,
- 22:45but again he did that. The again says severing the cases is not required
- 22:52to protect their rights to a fair determination of their guilt or innocence. Again,
- 22:57all five former members of the Memphis Police Department Crime Crime Suppression Unit have
- 23:03all pleaded not guilty to state charges including second degree murder and aggravated kidnapping in
- 23:10the beating of Nichols, who was punched, kicked, and slugged with a
- 23:12police baton as he fled the traffic stopped, during which he was hit with
- 23:15the stun gun and pepple spray. So again, I absolutely agree with the
- 23:22judge again, whether you're tried separately, whether you're tried all together. I
- 23:30really feel like the verdict is still gonna be the same way I do in
- 23:36my in my whole, honest heart opinion. They will be found guilty,
- 23:40They will be convicted, they will be sentenced. How much time do we
- 23:45know? No, But I just want to know your thoughts. What do
- 23:51you think? Do you feel like these officers should be tried separately or do
- 23:53you feel like it should all just still be together. I you know,
- 23:57y'all did the crime together. Y'all brutally beat this man over a traffic stop.
- 24:07Over erect. I'm so sorry. Reckless driving, quote unquote, reckless
- 24:11driving. But the sad part about this is you sat there and you laughed.
- 24:18You took pictures and you sent them out to people. Then you failed
- 24:23to render aid to this man. You denied him medical attention as this man
- 24:32lied there bleeding to death, brain swollen. Because I went back and I
- 24:40read the autopsy report, this young man had. Give me one moment,
- 24:51let me go right back further autopsy. Let me go back because I had
- 24:59it pulled up. But it it made me so sick to my stomach that
- 25:06I just I immediately had to close it out. So the autopsy he had
- 25:12blunt forced injuries to the head, swelling and bruises on his brain, as
- 25:18well as liver and kidney damage. That was the autopsy report. You beat
- 25:26this man for three to five minutes for what And for those that watched the
- 25:33video to hear this young man calling out for his mother, because this happened
- 25:41feets away from his front door. And it wasn't just a beating that made
- 25:51me sick, it was how they handled it. Afterwards. You came in
- 26:00and knocked on this mother's door and asked, do you have a son named
- 26:04Tyrene Nichols. Mother said, yes, yes I do. Uh he's he's
- 26:11on his way to the hospital. He was he was under he was intoxicated,
- 26:15he was acting erratic, and after we leave the hospital, he's going
- 26:22to jail. So, as you know, I watched the interview with the
- 26:29mother and the mother says, that wasn't like my son, and why you
- 26:37know, well, can I can I can I go see him at the
- 26:40hospital. They said no, because he's going to he's he's in custody,
- 26:44he's been reprimanded. This is what they tell the mother. So soon after,
- 26:49the mother receives a call from the hospital from the doctors, one of
- 26:55the doctors that said, you need to get here today, this hospital.
- 27:00Now, you need to get to this hospital. Now. Your son has
- 27:11been brutally beaten. So, as the mother of a black boy listening to
- 27:23this mother talking and share and what happened, my heart immediately dropped to the
- 27:33bottom of my stomach because I said, my son drives at night. You
- 27:37know, he has to go to work, he has to come home.
- 27:42What can I do to prevent this? I know I can't protect my son
- 27:52from the world, but I could do whatever it is I need to do
- 27:56to keep him protecting. And it just took me back to when Trayvon Martin
- 28:06was killed. It took me back to when Sean Bell was killed, when
- 28:11Oscar Grant was killed. Because I have a black son, and then I
- 28:17think about my two black daughters. I have a Sandra Bland, I have
- 28:22a Taitana Jefferson, I have a Brianna Taylor. Everyone has had a Catherine
- 28:32Johnston and their family. That was a ninety two year old woman that was
- 28:34killed in Atlanta, And I think, what can what can I do?
- 28:41It as a better as a mother. What can I do better as as
- 28:45a parent? What can I do better as as a person to keep my
- 28:47children protected? And I pray every night when my son has to leave to
- 28:57go to work. And I pray every time my son comes home. Every
- 29:03night that I talk to my son, I take calling, let me know
- 29:07you made it to your destination safe, calling, Let me know you made
- 29:08it home okay. And the saddest part about all this is I have to
- 29:12sit down and I have to have these conversations with my son and my daughters.
- 29:18Well not the baby girl because the baby girl doesn't go anywhere, but
- 29:19my two oldest my oldest son and my oldest daughter. I have to say
- 29:23down and I have to have this conversation with them. Please do this,
- 29:26Please don't do that. Please if they tell you, just please do what
- 29:30they just. I beg because you hear these mothers that talk about the loss
- 29:37of their children due to police brutality. You feel weak, you feel helpless.
- 29:45What can we do? But I pray and I ask God every day,
- 29:51just keep my children in cover. Just please allow my children to come
- 29:52home safe. To me. Every day I pray for the people that you
- 29:59know that are not relatives. I pray for every black man, I pray
- 30:03for every black woman. I pray for you every time you leave your home,
- 30:08that you make it back to your family. Say, but this Tyree
- 30:15Nichols case just I don't know what it is about this case, but it
- 30:21just really truly has me in a choke hold. And I think, and
- 30:23I don't know if it's because this was five black police saucers that did this
- 30:29to another black man, or the fact that they brutalize this man for three
- 30:33to five minutes and then you denied medical attention to him, I believe for
- 30:37seventeen minutes, and it's just happened feets away from his home and on the
- 30:45video you hear him calling his mom, Mom, Mom, Man, you
- 30:48know what do you do? How do we handle this again? Tyrene Nichols
- 31:00twenty nine years old, A father, a brother, a son taken away
- 31:07from us so brutally in the most tragic way you could ever ever imagined over
- 31:15a traffic stop. And then I've had I've had conversations with people with regards
- 31:22to this case, and I've heard people say, well, he should have
- 31:25he should have just complied. Orlando castile complied and still lost his life.
- 31:34So if you're damned if you do, You're damned if you don't stop telling
- 31:41us to comply, Tell the police officers to stop brutalizing our black men and
- 31:48our black women, because if you don't comply, you die. If you
- 31:55comply, you still die. I don't like how they victor, how they
- 32:04portray the victims as, oh, they were villains. No, Tyrie Nichols
- 32:10was on his way home. I could understand the fear. I could understand
- 32:15why he was afraid. Look at all these police brutality cases that we encounter
- 32:21every day. We see this every day. There's another one that just happened
- 32:25last week that I'm gonna be addressing next week. So we fear. We're
- 32:36afraid every time we get pulled over by the police because we don't know are
- 32:39we going home? Are we leaving in a body bed? Because we're seeing
- 32:46this far too often. Sean bell oscar Grant, Orlando Castille, Alton Sterling.
- 32:58The list goes on and on and on and on. When is this
- 33:05gonna end? When are we gonna start holding these police officers accountable for their
- 33:12actions? Yes, we saw it in the trial of George Floyd, but
- 33:19unfortunately we didn't get the same justice for Dante Wright. We see this over
- 33:29and over and over and over again. It's very disheartening. It's very troubling.
- 33:37It's very disturbing that we have to sit and have these conversations with our
- 33:42children on how to conduct themselves. If you ever get pulled over by the
- 33:45police, I remember you used to get pulled over, You got a ticket,
- 33:50and you went on about your way. Now it's am I gonna die?
- 33:58Or am I gonna be able to go home? Are they gonna beat
- 34:00me? Are they gonna take me? What's gonna happen? This is definitely
- 34:07post traumatic stress syndrome for black men and black women every time a police officer
- 34:12gets behind you. Because we don't know, we don't know the outcome,
- 34:16because we've seen the outcome of these other cases, a lot of them don't
- 34:22make it home. And again, we only make a fourteen percent of the
- 34:29population. We only make a fourteen percent of the population. So if that
- 34:37is in the top five leading causes of death for black men and black women,
- 34:42we're at the bottom of the totem pole. I get it. We're
- 34:49tired of hearing about it. I know y'all are tired of talking about it,
- 34:52but guess what if I don't keep talking about it, It's just gonna
- 34:55get swept under the rug. One of my friends on my Facebook friends list
- 35:02lost his step son to the Memphis Police Department and they still have got no
- 35:09answers none. But in this case of Tyrie Nichols, I pray justice to
- 35:21serve for this family. I prayed it. Not only are they indicted criminally,
- 35:24but federally. You need to go serve some time because what the conduct
- 35:31of those five police officers that night of January seventh should never have happened.
- 35:37It never should have happened, absolutely should not have happened. Tyrie Nichols should
- 35:45still be here with us today. Tyree Nichols should still be here with his
- 35:47son. He still should be with his family, his mother, his father,
- 35:52his sister. So what happened on the night of January wherever seven of
- 36:00twenty twenty three never should have occurred to these police officers. There's gonna be
- 36:07a high place in hell waiting for you when you get there. I pray
- 36:12that every weapon formed against you prospers, because again, what happened January seventh
- 36:20to Tyrie Nichols. Never should have occurred. It never should have happened.
- 36:28With regards to the federal case, here's a little more information. Again,
- 36:31I'm gonna keep your guys updated. And then the loop. Oh I have
- 36:35a comment. Oh, I'm so sorry, heybo, I love you,
- 36:39Thank you for tuning in and supporting me. I finally got my fingers together,
- 36:43y'all. I got my little heart together. I love y'all. But
- 36:46here we go. Here's some more information with regards to the federal charges against
- 36:53the five police officers indicted in the murder of Tyree Nichols or Memphis police officers
- 37:00involved in the beating death of Tyrie Nichols are now facing federal charges for violating
- 37:05the civil rights. Nichols died three days after he was beaten by police during
- 37:08a January traffic stop. Earlier this year, the officers all pleaded not guilty
- 37:13to state charges of second degree murder. For more on this, I'm joined
- 37:16by CBS News Chief National Affairs and Justice correspondent Jeff Bygay's Jeff, good to
- 37:22see you tell us about these charges in this indictment. Well, this blad
- 37:28adds to the federal charges or the state charges that have already been leveled against
- 37:34these five officers. This is a federal case. Four counts and accounts include
- 37:44obstruction, contri essentially contributing to a police report that did not tell an accurate
- 37:52story of what happened that day last January, and then also using excessive four
- 37:59say and other counts on top of that. With all these counts, these
- 38:04five former officers could be sent to prison for decades. So these are of
- 38:12course serious charges. There are civil rights charges from the Department of Justice,
- 38:16and what we've seen over time with the Department of Justice under A. G.
- 38:23Garland is that these are the kinds of charges that they bring against police
- 38:30officers who are accused of or alleged to have committed acts that are excessive force.
- 38:39And so this is another tool the Department of Justice has been using to
- 38:45root out allegedly bad cops. So then what happens next. What's the timeline
- 38:52going to look like for a case like this, It's a whole bunch of
- 38:55court dates which will come and then of course they have the court dates and
- 39:00the state charges that they face. So this is going to drag out.
- 39:06But what is also important to mention is that these five officers were part of
- 39:13what was called the Scorpion Union Unit. This was a unit that was created
- 39:19to help bring down crime in Memphis. Memphis has had a problem over the
- 39:22last several years with rising crime. But what prosecutors are alleging here is that
- 39:30these officers went too far, they used excessive force, and that they tried
- 39:35to conspire to cover up what they had allegedly done, according to prosecutors,
- 39:42So there are going to be a lot of court cases for these five officers
- 39:46going forward, as you mentioned, and the state charges they pleaded not guilty
- 39:51in this federal case. They are claiming their innocence and now they're going to
- 39:57have to go to court to prove it. So, Jeff, just for
- 40:01our viewers to understand clearly, how different is the state charge than the how
- 40:07different is it from the state charges the officers already face. These are civil
- 40:13rights violations, according to the Department of Justice, which will result if there's
- 40:21a conviction in tougher penalties, longer prison sentences. And so this is a
- 40:30tool, as I mentioned, the Department of Justices, according to some of
- 40:34the statistics we've seen, used about one hundred times. They've had eighty five
- 40:39convictions, so they have a pretty good record improving their cases, and they
- 40:45feel like they have a pretty good case in this one because of that disturbing
- 40:50video where you see the five officers pounding, kicking, tiring Nichols, a
- 40:59twenty nine year old man who, according to initial reports, was fighting back.
- 41:06But then that video came out and you're getting clearly see in the video
- 41:09that he's not fighting back, that he's being pummeled by these officers, and
- 41:14so federal investigators believe they have a strong case. We'll see where it goes,
- 41:21you will, Jeff, Thank you very much. M mm hm hmm.
- 41:30The family has also filed a five hundred million dollar lawsuit against the City
- 41:36of Memphis. I know emotion has been filed. City of Memphis wants to
- 41:40be removed from the lawsuit, and the lawsuit has been filed on behalf of
- 41:45the family of Tyree Nichols as well as the estate of Tyree Nichols. So
- 41:52we'll see how that motion turns out. Again. City of Memphis has filed
- 41:57the motion to be removed from this lawsuit that the family has filed in regard
- 42:01with regards to the murder of Tyrane Nichols with the beating death of Tyree Nichols.
- 42:07So I'm praying you know that the family gets their due, that you
- 42:13know, the due diligence is done. I am definitely praying that justice is
- 42:17given to the family of Tyrane Nichols, especially his son. You know,
- 42:22you have a little boy who will now grow up without his father, you
- 42:28know who will have to endure watching the video over and over of his father
- 42:37being brutally beaten at the hands of five black Memphis but five black police officers.
- 42:44So definitely stay in constant prayer for the family, for the friends,
- 42:49extended family of Tyrrie Nichols, because again, this never should have happened.
- 42:52Tyrrie Nichols again should be here with us right now. Again, as you
- 42:59know, when when all this first transpired and I was sent the video prior
- 43:04to it even being released to the public, I was very sicken to see
- 43:12and hear the way that they laughed and joked about beating this young man.
- 43:21But I also feel like the white officer that was there, even though he
- 43:28may not have been there for the initial beating you incited. So I don't
- 43:32understand why charges were not brought against him because if you go back again,
- 43:37y'all, I'm not showing the video. I'm not putting that out there because
- 43:40it's very triggering. But you hear him say, and I'm trying to quote
- 43:46it verbatim. In other words, I hope you catch him, and I
- 43:51hope y'all beat his ass, basically is what he said. And they did
- 43:55just that. And then the way Tyree was handled after the fact, the
- 44:00fact that pictures were taken, pictures were sent to members that didn't even work
- 44:07for Memphis Police. It was a couple of people that did work for the
- 44:10police department that these pictures were sent to. But you ridiculed and you joked
- 44:15and you laughed as you sat and watched this young man's life viciously fade away
- 44:23at a beating that you caused. And then for you guys to go in
- 44:31there and feel like you did nothing wrong. And then the attorneys that were
- 44:42fighting with regards for this motion to sever in other words, to try these
- 44:50officers individually. I'm glad the judge denied that request because regardless if you're tried
- 44:59separately or together, you still participated in the brutal beating and the eventual death
- 45:06of Tyree Nichols. You still contrib you were complicit, So I don't care
- 45:10if you try separate. I don't care if you tried together. Justice needs
- 45:15to be served. You need to be convicted, period, period, period,
- 45:19period, point blank. So shout out to Judge Jones for denying that
- 45:24request of those three police officers that had filed the motion to sever Again,
- 45:30y'all, welcome to another episode of Black Girl Interrupted. Y'all already know it's
- 45:35still your girl ass your favorite girl from the five o four, But I
- 45:42just, hm, it never gets easier when I do these shows. It
- 45:49never does when it comes to bringing you these updates. It's never easy,
- 46:00you know. Like I said, as many of these stories and cases that
- 46:04I cover that I bring to y'all weekend and week out, it never gets
- 46:07easy for me. But again, this, this particular case, Tyree Nichols,
- 46:13this this it really truly has me in a choco because again, I
- 46:19don't know if it was how it was handled after the fact, or if
- 46:22it was the fact that it was five black police officers that brutalized this young
- 46:27man for no reason. You had, you had him pulled over, if
- 46:32he you could have got his license plate. You could have certain something,
- 46:39but y'all brutalized this man for three to five minutes. You beat him with
- 46:45a baton, you kicked him in the face, you pepper sprayed him,
- 46:49you stomped on him like he was a dog in the street, like he
- 46:53was just a piece of trash. And then you carried it on like nothing.
- 47:01You went on about your day like nothing. Then you're joked about it,
- 47:08you laughed about it, You denied aid to this young man. And
- 47:17then the EMTs that arrived on the scenes, y'all laughing, y'allure joke.
- 47:22Y'all were talking about the Super Bowl. Really, and you have a young
- 47:28man that's laying here dying, and y'all want to sit there laughing joke like
- 47:32it's Super Bowl Sunday and y'all are talking about the game. I really feel
- 47:43like the only way that this is gonna stop we have to start holding these
- 47:45police officers accountable. I get it, they want to protect the police,
- 47:52but what about us? What about the citizens? Y'all are giving an old
- 47:55to protect and serve us O, y'all are not doing that. And again
- 48:02I'm not saying that there's not good police officers out there, because I know
- 48:06there are, but the ones that stand by and say nothing, you're just
- 48:12as bad as the ones that actually come in that are actually complicit in the
- 48:15crimes. So again, but Tyrene Nichols, y'all keep praying for that family.
- 48:25Let's pray that justice is served. Let's pray that each and every last
- 48:30police officer that winds up in the same situation. Let's pray that justice is
- 48:35served. I get it, y'all. I understand there's not enough time in
- 48:38the world to compensate for the loss, I know, but I want the
- 48:44justice. You may can't bring my loved one back, but I need justice
- 48:47for my loved one so my loved one can finally rest. And the beautiful
- 48:54things that Tyree Nichols family has done, the way they keep rallying and advocating
- 48:59and fighting for justice, I applaud them. I know it's difficult again watching
- 49:07the interview with the mother and the mother saying they had to move out of
- 49:10that house because that was too much of a reminder. Because again y'all had
- 49:15to understand, this happened what seven hundred feet away from the front door,
- 49:22so right there at the corner, and to be reminded. Having to pass
- 49:29by that every day. I absolutely understand that is a reminder, that is
- 49:32a trigger. So I get it while the mom and the dad moved away.
- 49:38But I continue to pray for you. I continue to uplift you,
- 49:43I continue to encourage you, and know justice will prevail. Tyree Nichols did
- 49:50not die in Vain. He didn't. So Jule says, it took me
- 50:04weeks to actually watch that video. That hurt my soul watching those cowards murder
- 50:08that young man. My heart aches to watch his mom and dad and family
- 50:13deal with the loss of a loved one. When I tell you sis,
- 50:16looking at the interviews, speaking with people that are closely affiliated with this case,
- 50:25they say the mother is the strongest person they've ever seen because the mother
- 50:34is standing up for what's right. They said, you know, because the
- 50:38family did actually get to go to court when the police officers were indicted,
- 50:46and they said they saw the tremble and the shaken of the mother as she
- 50:57watched these five police officers that brutalized her son walk into that courtroom with face
- 51:04masks on. Now, baby, take that mask off, because you didn't
- 51:07have a mask on that night when you brutalize her son. So I commend
- 51:17the mother because it just as a mother, even as a parent period,
- 51:23it takes a lot of strength, a lot of courage, and a lot
- 51:28of restraint to have to deal with something like this. I totally get it.
- 51:37I absolutely understand because I worry about that for my son every day.
- 51:45Every day. The more stories that come across that I see, I immediately
- 51:52go to my son and like, oh my god, I gotta protect them
- 51:54something. I just don't want this to happen to my baby. So we
- 52:01have to keep the mother encouraged, the family encouraged, the sister, everybody.
- 52:09We have to stand in solidarity for this family because this could be you.
- 52:15I could be up to telling your story. I could be up here
- 52:17advocating and trying and continuing to keep your story alive. I know it.
- 52:27I know it, mom. I know it's hard. And to hear her
- 52:30speak so beautifully and eloquently about her son, I think that's what makes it
- 52:39hurt even more, is because he's not here. Because she did say he
- 52:45used to always tell her he wanted to be famous. But the mother said
- 52:50she never imagined it would be like this. Imagine that as a mother and
- 53:00your child telling you am going to be famous, but this is how it
- 53:06turns out. H So with the federal trial, there has been a case.
- 53:19I'm sorry, a trial date has been announced. Here we go and
- 53:23then we're gonna go ahead and wrap up the rest of the show. Thanks
- 53:28for joining us. I'm Richard Wrestling along with Pepper Baker tonight knew this hour.
- 53:30We now know the federal trial date for five ex Memphis cops charged in
- 53:36the death of Tyree Nichols. Today, a federal judge put May sixth on
- 53:39the trial calendar for Justin Smith, emmittt Martin, Desmond Mills, Demetrius Haley,
- 53:44and Tadarius Bean. They each face four federal charges, none of which
- 53:47are related to the States case against them. Our seven reels is here with
- 53:52the major takeaways from today's proceedings. Stephan, Thanks so much, Pepper.
- 53:55Two big things were coming away today. The federal charges coming down very quickly,
- 54:00less than a week from the federal indictments that were handed down earlier against
- 54:05the former MPD officers. Also, if they are convicted, the death penalty
- 54:08is now off the table, but the former officers could still face a life
- 54:13in prison. All five of the former officers pleaded not guilty to the federal
- 54:16charges. They are all out on bond under certain conditions. While judge ordered
- 54:22that the five cannot talk to each other before trial, their lawyers are in
- 54:27talks with the government to allow the former officers to sit next to each other
- 54:30in court. Here's William Macy, who is representing em and Martin, responding
- 54:35to the Spring twenty twenty four federal trial date. We have begun the process
- 54:40and we'll work toward May for a triald act. I would like to see
- 54:45everyone be able to talk with they other. I don't, but the lawyers
- 54:49could talk with they shout the show. I guess that's the way you would
- 54:52just have to be done. And Richard and Pepper, here's what's coming up
- 54:55next. Both sides have until November sixth to complete their discovery process. Then
- 55:00they will meet twice for report dates on November fourteenth and then on April fourth
- 55:05next year, and if all goes well, the trial will begin in May
- 55:07sixth, like we said earlier, and last for eight to nine days.
- 55:10The five former MPD officers also face state charges, including second degree murder.
- 55:15A trial date hasn't been set on either of those charges. So again,
- 55:22that is the update with regards to the federal charges that have been brought down
- 55:28against those police officers. Again, I will definitely keep y'all updated because I
- 55:32am closely following this story. I am closely staying in connection with my people
- 55:38that are highly highly highly highly attached to this this oh to this case.
- 55:47Again, you guys did see the timeline, So May fourth of twenty twenty
- 55:52four is when the federal trial will start again. As you guys did here,
- 55:58the death penalty has been pulled off the table, but they do still
- 56:04can still face life in prison. I'm gonna be honest with y'all and I
- 56:07want to know your thoughts. Are you for the death penalty or do you
- 56:13feel like they should get light I am gonna say I want them to have
- 56:19life in prison. I think death is too easy when it comes to life
- 56:24in prison. This is gonna sit on you, and this is gonna weigh
- 56:29on you once those prison doors close, reality set sin. Whatever type of
- 56:38justices serve you deserve, you absolutely deserve. I would love to see them
- 56:46all go to prison for the rest of their lives. I would, I
- 56:52really absolutely would. Again, there's no time in the world to bring that
- 56:55could possibly bring Tyree Nichols back. But I want justice for this. I
- 57:00also want justice for the countless other families that have had to experience, that
- 57:04have experienced and have had to endure the death of their loved ones at the
- 57:08hands of someone that was sworn to protect and serve. So I do hope
- 57:13they get life in prison, because that's gonna haunt them, that's gonna wrap
- 57:17their conscience so much. That's gonna give you time to really think about what
- 57:23you did and how that split second decision you made has ruined your life and
- 57:30has shattered the families of Tyrie Nickel. I'm so sorry the loved ones of
- 57:35Tyrie Nichols. So I pray you get life in prison. I pray that
- 57:44this haunts you for the rest of your life. I pray that every night,
- 57:46when you close your eyes, you see Tyree Nichols face. I pray
- 57:50that you hear his voice every night, because I want you to understand what
- 57:55you've done. You have destroyed sin families, Tyree Nichols family, and your
- 58:05own families at that split second decision that you made to brutally beat this young
- 58:12man for three to five minutes, and then you failed to render aid to
- 58:15him. And then the aftermath, you're taking pictures. You're laughing, you're
- 58:22joking, you're just having a grand little time while this young man lays her
- 58:27bleeding watching that video. I'm gonna be honest with y'all. I could not
- 58:37get past when they hit him in the face with the baton, and when
- 58:44the guy went and changed shoes and you kicked this young man in the face,
- 58:53and then the fact that you turned around and you took pictures and then
- 58:55you sent them out highly disrespectful. So to the family of Tyrie Nichols,
- 59:07from my family to yours, we love you. We are still praying for
- 59:10you, and we stand in solidarity with you and pray that justice will be
- 59:15served. And just know that his death was not in vain. And that
- 59:22is all I have for you tonight with regards to the update of the Tyree
- 59:24Nichols case. Once I do get the information with regards to the state case,
- 59:31which is the actual indictment, which is the murder trial, I will
- 59:34definitely bring y'all the updates, definitely keep y'all posted. Were gonna go live,
- 59:39We're gonna follow this or we're gonna keep this covered because we cannot let
- 59:45Tyrie Nichols's death be in vain. We have to support the family, support
- 59:50the countless of the families that again have had the experience or endure the loss
- 59:53of a loved one at the hands of a police officer. So as I
- 1:00:02bring this episode to a cloth baby, y'all know, I got to give
- 1:00:07y'all the tea on what's coming up next for weeks. So tu again,
- 1:00:13y'all know, Black Girl Interrupted goes live every Tuesday and every Wednesday night,
- 1:00:16Well Tuesday night, I am going to be bringing you guys the case of
- 1:00:22Stephen Clay Perkins, who was a thirty nine year old, unarmed black man
- 1:00:28that was gonned down by the police indicator Alabama. Another one in my DJ
- 1:00:35calivoice. Another one. I'm not gonna dive too deep into that, but
- 1:00:40Stephen Clay Perkins. Then also next week, we're gonna be talking about sex
- 1:00:46trafficking and what we can do took her. Tell this, we have to
- 1:00:54protect that our children because we're seeing this happen far too often. But oh,
- 1:01:06I got to take a deep breath on that one, because again every
- 1:01:09time I bring stories like this. It just it really does something to me.
- 1:01:15But if I don't bring the stories, who else will? Because again,
- 1:01:21this could be your loved one that I'm sitting in it and I'm telling
- 1:01:23the story about. But I also want you to know I do this to
- 1:01:30help bring our community together, to help heal our community, because we need
- 1:01:35it. So we have to have these real, live in depth, uncomfortable
- 1:01:40conversations because this is what's happening out here in the world. If I don't,
- 1:01:46if I don't bring it to the forefront, who else does. These
- 1:01:51types of stories in cases get swept under the rug every day and we don't
- 1:01:53know about it. We don't hear about it. Why I know y'all are
- 1:02:00tired of hearing about it, but I'm tired of speaking about it. But
- 1:02:05again, we as a community, we have to collect them. We come
- 1:02:07together. We have to start policing our neighborhoods. We have to take the
- 1:02:12streets back. We have to protect our children, we have to protect our
- 1:02:21loved ones. We have to do our part as a community. But we
- 1:02:27also need them to start holding these police officers accountable for these crimes that they
- 1:02:30do, because these these police officers are doing this and there's no repercussions.
- 1:02:37These people are losing their lives and no one's held accountable that. I really
- 1:02:44feel like the only reason Derek Chauvin was held accountable is because Minnesota was under
- 1:02:50scrutiny. They were ready to burn that city down. And we see this
- 1:02:58time and time and time again. Videos, there's surveillance, you got the
- 1:03:01footage. You see this, but they get a slap on the wrist.
- 1:03:07No charges are gonna be filed, dismissed without prejudice or dismissed with prejudice.
- 1:03:12We see this all the time. So I feel like the only way this
- 1:03:15is gonna stop, you have to start holding these police officers accountable. We
- 1:03:20have to. I feel like restitution to these parents, families, I'm so
- 1:03:25sorry the families of the loved ones should come from the police officer's pension.
- 1:03:30That's just my opinion. I know there's a lot of people that may disagree
- 1:03:32with what I'm saying, but I really feel like that's where it should come
- 1:03:37from. I feel like you should lose your pension. I don't care if
- 1:03:39you're put in thirty years on the force. That split second decision made your
- 1:03:44thirty years go right down the dream. That's my honest and humble opinion.
- 1:03:51But again, I'm just here to report the news. I'm just here to
- 1:03:54bring y'all beautiful, intelligent conversations that may get a little uncomfortable at times.
- 1:03:59That's all I'm here to do. But I'm also here to love and encourage
- 1:04:02and empower you along the way. So on that note, black girl interrupted,
- 1:04:11it's coming to a closed baby. I told y'all this was gonna be
- 1:04:13short, not nothing too big, not nothing too small. But again,
- 1:04:18I definitely want to tell y'all, thank y'all so much for tuning in with
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- 1:04:26This is what keeps me going. This is why I do what I do,
- 1:04:30Baby. I do it for y'all. I don't. I don't do
- 1:04:31it just for me, but I do it for y'all too. And I
- 1:04:34appreciate the love. I appreciate the way y'all come and support. I appreciate
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- 1:04:42hear your opinions. I love to hear your thoughts, whether we agree,
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- 1:05:24not gonna even tell Y'all'm gonna wait till I'm gonna wait till it goes through,
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- 1:05:36love you guys again. Happy Wednesday. I hope each and every person has
- 1:05:41a beautiful day tomorrow. I hope you guys have a beautiful and safe weekend.
- 1:05:45And I'm gonna see y'all again next Tuesday, same time, same place,
- 1:05:48all right. I love y'all, have a good night and again be
- 1:05:54blessed. Set boundaries, Drink your water, wash your hands, wash your
- 1:05:58ass, baby, because guess what over his back on the rise. Love
- 1:06:01y'all have a good knight.