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Ancestral Energy Healing with Shelley Kaehr · Vox Novus with Victor Fuhrman

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Vox Novus, the New Voice, Vox Novus, the New Dimension, Vox
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Novus thought and movement leaders who will share from their experience and offer tools to
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help us navigate our rapidly changing world. My name is Victor Furman. Welcome
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to Vox Novus, the New Voice. You've uncovered your ancestral lineage and discovered
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events that have carried into your generation and may be the key to healing yourself
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in the present. What practices may you employ to connect with your ancestors to
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heal yourself and troubled family relationships? My guest this week on Vox Novus.
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Shelley Care has worked with thousands of peace people around the world, helping them
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achieve greater peace and happiness in their lives. A renowned past life regressionist and
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one of the world's leading authorities on energy healing and mind body medicine, Shelley's
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award winning books have been translated into multiple languages around the world. She created
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the groundbreaking genealogical regression based on her award winning international bestseller, Heal Your Ancestors
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to Heal Your Life. Her website is Pastlifelady dot com and she joins me
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this week to discuss her work and new book, Ancestral Energy Healing, a
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guide Book. Please join me in welcoming back to Vox Novus, Shelley Care.
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Welcome Shelley Victor, thank you, Thank you so much for having me
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on the show. Shelley, for our listeners meeting you for the first time.
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Please share your early path and how it led to your interest in healing,
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metaphysics and past lives. Yes, I was definitely influenced at a very
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early age from my parents. I grew up in Abuquerque, New Mexico,
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and lived in Arizona for a period of time, and my dad was managing
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some of the big turquoise minds there, so we were always out exploring the
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gem and mineral kingdom, which I ended up writing a lot about the healing
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properties of stones and gems in my early career. And then we moved to
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Colorado Springs, and that's really where I was first introduced to the idea of
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past lives. Back in the seventies, there was a really famous book called
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The Search for Bride Murphy, which was about a woman who suffered from terrible
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allergies and she went to a hypnotherapist and she was having pretty good results,
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but not great results, doing some regression therapy to get to the source of
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allergies, and when it wasn't going far enough, I guess the hypnotherapist one
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day just said, hey, I'd like you to go back to the actual
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source event of where these allergies began. And the woman began reporting her past
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life in Ireland, and she named all the people in the village and she
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had this accent. So this ended up becoming a very famous book called The
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Search for Bridy Murphy that I'm sure many of your listeners have heard about.
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So my mother actually attended a luncheon and met the hypnotherapist and the subject of
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the book, and she bought the book and brought it home to the family
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dinner table when I was a little kid. So we were sitting around talking
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about this idea that we go on from here, that it's not all over
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after this one lifetime. And there was something about this concept that really struck
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a chord with me at a soul level and stuck with me for many,
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many years until years later. A friend of mine was killed in a hiking
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accident, and I was encouraged at that time to go have a past life
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progression to see if we knew each other before. And it was so very,
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very transformational for me that I realized that that's what I wanted to do
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for others, and I started working in this area, you know, in
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the early two thousands, So it's been quite a while. It's been quite
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a journey so far. And in the early two thousands, you had a
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life changing near death experience. What happened and how did it change your life?
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Yes, during this time what led me into the career that I am
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currently. And I started hearing the inner voice very loudly, not audit,
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not the way you and I are speaking now, but just an inner voice
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guiding me. I started reading all kinds of spiritual books, studying different spiritual
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matters, and then one day I heard something. The inner voice told me
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there was something wrong with my heart. I was not going to live much
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longer. And one night, through no accidents or anything, but I just
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lifted up out of my body and I found myself in an otherworldly light where
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I was surrounded by loving beings. The only the only one that I remember
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in that loving light actually, other than faceless loving beings, was my grandmother
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who passed away before I was born. I do remember seeing her there and
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it was all very nonverbal, nonverbal cerebral, and I was guided that I
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needed to come back, and of course I came back. And when I
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came back from whatever this strange incident was, a friend of mine ended up
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helping me get over to the hospital. They hooked me up to some machines.
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They could see that my pulse was very low, and then they held
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me for observation overnight, and then they just couldn't figure out what was wrong
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with me, so they just put it down as a virus and just sent
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me home. But after I came back from that experience, I started having
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an understanding of things that I had never been shown or taught. There was
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a there was a kind of knowing about how to run energy through the body,
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and a very deep understanding about the idea that we read about in metaphysical
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books, but this idea that thoughts are things and they're occupying physical space.
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And I was shown how to like move these stuck pieces of energy off of
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the fields around the body. And so as I started developing my hypnotherapy practice,
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one of the things that was different about what I was doing back in
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the earliest of times was that it's one thing, if we talk about your
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past lives, we can go back and you can intellectualize that that's very healing.
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But there's also an energetic component to those memories. So if someone goes
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back, for example, into some life that they lived, like let's say
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in the middle Age, is that there's not only some verbal healing that can
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take place, but there's actually energy that can be the frequency of which can
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be raised, enlightened, transmuted, and maybe even moved completely out of the
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field, and then the person could have a really really profound healing. And
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so that early experience then really informed some of the things that even you know
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now it's twenty four years later, I have not changed my perception of those
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things. I continue to understand that what I was shown in that early time
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is, in my mind, is how things are, and in that regard,
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I really haven't changed my thinking on that at all over the years.
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I'm more convinced that ever, that we do have the ability to transform the
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way we're viewing reality and really improve our lives for the better. You are
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a prolific author, and the last time you were with us, you shared
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your award winning bestseller Heal Your Ancestors to Heal Your Life. What inspired that
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book and what did you share with readers. Yes, yes, Heal Your
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Ancestors to Heal Your Life came out in twenty twenty one. I've been writing
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some books for my fabulous publisher, lu Ellen, who I love and adore.
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That book, Heal Your Ancestors came about because back again in the early
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two thousands, my interest, as I mentioned, because of childhood interests,
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was always in past life regression. When I began working with other people,
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sometimes intuitively, I was sensing, you know what, before we can go
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into past lives, we need to do some healing in the present life with
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some people, and a lot of the healing that all of us, including
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myself, you know, I think, and probably none of your listeners,
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probably not you or any of your listeners, but let's just say some of
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us have challenges with family members and things like that. So no, that's
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not true. Yes, that could never be true, of course not.
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So what I was finding is some people had some healing that was going to
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need to take place with their family. So I would have them go into
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a space where they could have a visionary encounter with the higher selves of their
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parents, mother and father. And by higher self, I'm talking about not
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the human being who is flawed and maybe did horrible things, or who someone
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is angry at, but actually addressing the parents at the soul level and attempting
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to get some conversation going that can be healing. And so during this time
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I was guided that we needed to have the person say, hey, mom
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and dad, does anybody's family need a healing today, like on mom's side
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of the family or dad's side of the family. And so let's say the
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mother would saying, sure, my side of the family needs a healing.
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Okay, great, So now we can actually travel and instead of going into
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past lives where our own soul was somebody else, we're going to travel out
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over time and float over events that happened to the ancestors, many of which
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might have been like battles or funerals, or someone sick and something tragic is
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happening. So they would float out to these events. And let's say we're
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hovering over a battle, and I'd have them say, okay, now just
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look down at this and do you sense any of your ancestors are there?
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And they'll go, oh my gosh, look there's five times great grandfathers standing
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there. Okay, great, Let's send him and all people involved in this
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situation a healing. And so we would send energy to that space. And
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then since they were traveling into this space with this higher self of their parent,
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we could send light to the parent, and then we could we could
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notice their parent becoming lighter and brighter, and then that lightness could then be
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experienced and observed and out by the individual as they feel themselves becoming lighter.
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And then we would bring all of that healing forward through time, send it
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to the family, and then send it out to future generations. And so
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this was something that I called a genealogical regression. And so I had been
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writing some books for llew Ellen, and they had approached me and said,
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hey, we want you to write some more books. And I thought to
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myself, hmm, you know, maybe I'll bring that little old thing out
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of the drawer. I've never really talked about that very much. And so
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I wrote the book. And this was just about the time that I think
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we're having an awakening here in the Western world where we're starting to realize and
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acknowledge that there is a great need to do ancestral healing and honoring those who
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have walked the path before us, and so it just kind of then took
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on a life of its own and the journey continues. So that's where we're
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at. For those who are not familiar with past life regis aggression sessions,
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what are they like? It's like it can be kind of like listening to
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a guided meditation CD in some sense, you close your eyes, you bring
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light through the body, and then there's an imaginary door. You just walk
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through the door, and then my practices are in all of my books where
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readers can actually try them. But in this once you walk through the first
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door, there's always a helpful figure who will meet you there, whether that's
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an angel, a being of light, a guide. It could be an
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ancestor just some loving presence who can help guide you through the space. And
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then you're just guided to go out into the past into different events that are
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relating to whatever the issue is that you're trying to work on. So,
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just like the lady with the allergies, people usually are concerned with the arenas
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of in my opinion, to really simplify it, health, or money,
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or let's not even call it money, but let's say the umbrella of security,
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you know, having security on the planet, having love or health issues.
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So let's say a lot of again, a lot of relationship issues.
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They want to go back to the origin point where they first knew someone,
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and so they're going to be going in the theater of the mind to travel
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back to that origin point where they can go observe themselves in a different scene.
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And then people are asked questions like, okay, so what's going on
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in that situation, you know, in the thirteen hundreds, And they'll say,
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well, we're doing this, that and the other. Okay, great,
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so how is that applying to what we're doing now? And you know,
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everything doesn't have to be a tragedy. I mean, sometimes it's wonderful
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things. If it's great things that are happening, great, then we want
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to notice them so that we could do more of them in the current experience.
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But if it's something like a pattern that's unproductive or not working anymore,
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then again, just by identifying it, you know, there's exercise there to
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say, Okay, what are we learning from this experience and how can we
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move forward? Then in a more empowering way where we can change the things
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that are not working and then embrace the things that are. How does your
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genealogical regression differ from a traditional past life regression. It's instead of looking out
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one's own eyes, which one normally is during a past life progression, in
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these senses, we are normally hovering over events and sending light to others and
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then just observing the sensations in the body. It's very interesting in terms of
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how people respond to a genealogical regression more than a past life. It sometimes
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can be a lot more emotional. As a general rule. I think it's
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because, again, I believe in reincarnation. I do believe in past lives,
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and some listeners may and some may not, you know. But still
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it's not like I can go prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that a
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certain person was a certain person in a previous life. But with the ancestors,
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you know, you can really go out onto ancestry dot com or one
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of these websites and you could really research these people. These people are real,
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they're living in your DNA, and I think that that makes it a
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bit more emotional. So and just knowing that you're seeing at a again through
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a spiritual lens obviously, but you're still sensing, you know, the things
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that these ancestors had to go through so you could even be here. I
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think it just becomes very, very emotional. So I think that's one of
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the big differences. For sure, someone is undergoing challenges right now, how
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do they differentiate those from current life triggers versus ancestral triggers. Wow, that's
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so. I think that you know, a lot of people begin the journey
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if something's going wrong, which normally we won't seek healing unless things are going
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wrong. I mean, it'd be nice to be proactive, but most of
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us until something's going in a way that we don't want. Now, we're
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going to have to start turning and looking at different avenues. And I think
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a lot of people will start looking, well, maybe it's just something that's
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happening in my life, or maybe I just need to go to the doctor
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and I'm going to be okay. And then once they've tried those possibilities and
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they start saying, wait a minute, this isn't this isn't working, this
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isn't quite getting to the root of what I feel it needs to then they
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start looking into other avenues. Earlier in my career, I would have I
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really believed that different aches and pains, or different unwant what I would call
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unwanted in lunces, or emotional things that are coming up. I really would
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have told you, even even definitely ten years ago, but even maybe five
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or six years ago, I would have said, well, that's past life
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stuff, so we just need to go, you know, make peace with
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our past lives and everything will be fine. However, I have since had
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my own brush with ancestral healing, where I was really shown that that a
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lot of the things that we are actually experiencing because they are actually in our
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DNA, and we're starting to do more studying about that. I'm not sure
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that most I guess I would say now that it's possible that more of it
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is actually ancestral, even than through past lives or even current life things.
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I think a lot of are. There's been actual studies done about you know,
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what we like, what we dislike, some of our little quirky behaviors
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that you know makes you you, it makes me me and your listeners,
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you know, every person who's listening to this right now, you all have
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something that you think, oh, I do that, and this is why
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how people know that it's me. But I've just observed now after especially since
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here your ancestors came out and working with so many people on this, that
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some of those little things that we thought are us, when we dig a
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little deeper, we're finding out, Wait a minute, that's something my ancestor
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used to do, or this is something that's related to something I just read
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on my you know, ancestry dot com report, you know. And so
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I'm starting to think that our ancestral connection is deeper than what I ever would
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have dreamed possible. And how does the science of epigenetics and DNA come into
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play, Well, they're starting to do real studies, and by real again,
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I've been studying these things for years, but again I'm not the National
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Institutes of Health or you know, some of these other reputable organizations that are
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now actually studying epigenetics. They're studying the effects of trauma and how trauma that's
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been experienced by the ancestors can actually create stress markers in the offspring. So
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there's several interesting studies. One of them was about something called the Dutch hunger
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Winter which happened around World War two, where they did a study of people
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who were in utero when their parents experienced this great famine. And you know,
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we're have very food insecure and an incredibly stressful time. And so they
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studied these people, for example, and they could prove that they had higher
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cortisol levels in their DNA, and then they had a higher incidence of certain
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diseases compared to a general population who was not experiencing stress in utero. And
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that's just like one of so many studies that are being done now that are
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actually showing us that the things that your forebears have gone through can actually affect
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you. And so then in the realm of the idea of ancestral healing,
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if you've I'm sure listeners have been exposed to the fabulous work of doctor Bruce
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Lipton and the biology of belief, you know, we don't need to sit
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here and be worried about that and say, well, I'm just you know,
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this is what it is. I'm going to have to live with it.
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No, we have the consciousness to change those things by consciously sending light
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to those areas and by you know, through the power of prayer, and
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belief and healing to transmute those things. And so that's where the realm of
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ancestral healing meets some actual scientific evidence. Congratulations on your just published new book,
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Ancestral Energy Healing, a guide Book. What inspired that and where does
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this pick up where it feel your ancestors to heal your life left off?
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Yes, thank you. I needed to write this one. It really kind
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of just popped out. I wrote a book called The Goddess Discovered, which
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was a world Goddess encyclopedia that came out December of last year. And that
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book took several years to write. And when I was done with it,
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I was exploring deity and how connecting with different deities can also connect us to
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ancestors who perhaps engaged with these deities in the past, and or it can
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also connect us to our past lives. So this book was several years long.
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I said, okay, I am finished. I'm going to take a
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break. But of course that didn't happen. During I don't know what it
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was. It was twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two. I had a
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very strange experience and it was during the period when I was writing the Goddess
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discovered I came down with a very bad illness where I had a fever.
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The fever wouldn't go away. I finally went to the doctor and the doctor
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was standing It was just so stereotypical. She's standing out in the hall just
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looking at me. She's literally got her hand on her chin, going hmm.
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And she comes back in just goes Shelly, you know, I feel
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like you've got pneumonia. But I don't understand why you've got pneumonia because your
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oxygen level is in the nineties. But I'm going to give you some medicine.
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I'm going to send you home. So she sends me home. While
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I'm in my recovery, I'm kind of writing in pain. And during this
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strange, you know, bedridden experience, I was starting to experience excruciating pain
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in different parts of my body and I was again too sick to get out
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of the bed really, but I started to be shown that oh my gosh,
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this pain that's over here is relating to my mother and her side of
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the family. And then other pains were sonociated to my father in their side
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of the family. I won't disclose too many, but some of these these
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little weird aches and pains that I was having. I started to I started
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to recall things that I had been told that that the ancestors that you know,
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the closer ancestors, you know, the ones that we actually know about,
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had gone through. And I was just really shown a lot of different
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things how I could just I could send light into those areas. Rather than
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wanting to run from them, I could. I could send light into them.
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I could sense that they were expanding, and and I worked a lot
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of things out. I felt cells kind of clicking back together in different ways.
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It was as profound, if not more profound, than the experience I
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had in two thousand, only I just have a different you know, I
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have a different perspective at this age, obviously. But it was just the
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weirdest thing in the world. And I was so overwhelmed by what I had
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been shown, so many things that and I didn't have time to really even
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write them down or do anything with them because I'm trying to get my Goddess
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book done. So I got that done, and again I was planning on
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taking a break, but then it just flowed out. I said, oh,
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okay, because I have to be able to tell people how they can
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semlight consciously to these areas, but they don't necessarily need to go, you
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know, become bedridden to do it. You know. So at the time
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I had no idea if I would find the words to do that. But
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I really feel like this is a book that wanted to come out. I
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feel like I'm sharing tons of exercises, as I do in all my books,
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to hopefully gently invite readers into just opening energy lovingly, gently and consciously,
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with many, many different kinds of exercises, always with guidance that some
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you may say no, I don't feel I can do that right now,
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and some are very easy to do again just by sending love and light too
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different places in the body. And so that's kind of how it came about.
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My guest is Shelley Care, her brand new book and sustral Energy Healing,
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a guidebook. Shelley, please share with our listeners where they can get
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your books and find out more about you and your wonderful work. Thank you
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so much, Victor, it's been a joy to be here. My website
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is pastlifelady dot com, and listeners can check me out on Facebook at past
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life Lady. And your books are available wherever great books are sold. Yes
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they are, and I've got a book link on my website and we'll be
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creating a more conscious lifestyle. Back on Vox Novus, my guest this week
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is Shelley Care. We're talking about her brand new book, Ancestral Energy Healing,
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a guide book, Shelley. In Ancestral Energy Healing, you offer readers
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several exercises and techniques. You start with something that many people may already have
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in their homes, an ancestral alter. What should be included in that alter?
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Yes, I do share some ideas on that. I think that the
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biggest advice I could give is to put whatever it is comforts you. Whatever
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you enjoy. That might be photographs, There may be heirlooms that were passed
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down. There could be jewelry there could it could be painted a certain color,
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you might like, certain fabrics that remind you of the ancestors. Just
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whatever brings comfort. And then I think it's important just to have a space
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set up there where you are able to go to pay that homage. And
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again, it doesn't have to be anything big, it doesn't have to be
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anything elaborate, but just a space that you've dedicated to that purpose. In
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many cultures, people have ancestral altars in their homes, including photographs of their
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ancestors and objects momentos that those ancestors left for them. What's the energy in
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that. I think that it's just honoring. I think there's a big energy
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around the idea that these people, we didn't know them, yet we are
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connected through DNA and we would not be here had it not been for them.
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So I think keeping those photographs and those items nearby is just it's just
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a different way to express gratitude, you know. I think in the Western
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world we take all kinds of different spiritual teachings, you know, and we're
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all grateful people, but I think this is just taking gratitude to the next
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level when you really think about, wait a minute, how hard would it
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have been to have lived in these very early times and to forge the path
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that they laid out for us so that we could even have a life at
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all. And I think that just putting a little energy into that space through
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these photographs, keeping them there, keeps their memory alive, keeps that gratitude,
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you know, enlivenedto a different level than it would be if it's just
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you know, a couple of pictures and a photo album that you've got over
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on the shelf that nobody ever looks at. Many of us have spirit guides,
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but what is an ancestral guide and how may we connect with them?
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Yes, I definitely have enjoyed working with different kinds of guides over the years,
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particularly as I had mentioned earlier, when people go into past life spaces,
29:30
there's always an angel or a guide of some kind who can meet them
29:33
and help them. Different guides can be available to people for different purposes,
29:42
and so I think sometimes we're worried about maybe meeting with our being of light
29:48
or a guardian angel or somebody, but we don't really often take the time
29:52
to realize that the ancestors are near and around us all the time, and
29:57
so we can go into those same, say, sacred spaces, and there's
30:00
exercises in the book to do that where we can actually invite instead of the
30:06
being of light or whoever we were going to meet, we can invite an
30:10
ancestor to come through. Some people would find it may be an ancestor that
30:14
they know about because maybe it was a great great grandmother or grandfather or someone
30:19
like that, or it could be somebody they read about on ancestry dot com,
30:23
or it could just be someone they're going to invite in who is an
30:27
ancestor maybe they've never encountered before. And through that there's the possibility to have
30:33
conversations, to get advice, to receive gifts and talents which we've all received
30:40
from our ancestors, and just more fully open to those gifts and talents and
30:45
what they might mean. They can receive, give us, you know,
30:49
life lessons, advice, protection, et cetera, and tell us where the
30:56
treasure is buried. I wish, yes, the winning lottery numbers there.
31:03
Apparently, if we have good karma. No, I'm just kidding. I
31:07
don't know, and I'm just kidding. Also, as an interfaith minister,
31:11
I've officiated many funerals and one of the things I often hear while comforting the
31:17
bereaved is that they wish they had either asked for forgiveness, offered forgiveness,
31:22
or expressed gratitude to their departed family member. Is there a way this may
31:27
be accomplished? Wow, that is so interesting. You know, one of
31:34
the sections in the new book is all about forgiveness. And you know,
31:42
my friends at Llewell and we were putting this material together in some You know,
31:47
I've done a lot of books on energy healing, and usually there's a
31:49
technique, and the technique is you know, one, two, three,
31:52
These are the steps that you must follow. In this book, I'm really
31:55
inviting people, and I'm reminding them throughout that if you across the chapter and
32:00
you're saying, no, I'm not ready for that, you can leave it
32:02
and you can move on. You can still do these practices. But one
32:06
of the big practices that I would encourage people to at least consider, even
32:09
though many are not quite ready for it, and I understand that would be
32:14
forgiveness because it is such a critical door opener to some of the gifts of
32:23
the spirit that we can receive when we can come to a state of forgiveness.
32:29
I mentioned earlier in the show that how this whole thing got started many
32:34
years ago was that I found that so many people were having so many difficulties,
32:37
particularly with parents, that they had to have a forgiving, healing journey
32:42
before we could really go into the past. You know, we've had a
32:45
lot of I believe, past lives with family members. People even experience the
32:51
fact that they may have been in their own family in a past life.
32:54
But those doorways that we can open to learn more about those things can be
33:00
more profound if we can somehow open the door to forgiving things that have happened
33:07
in the here and now. And sometimes things are unforgivable. Absolutely horrible things
33:14
have happened to people. I mean, we know that, but if again,
33:19
it's kind of like floating over the battlefield that I was talking about earlier,
33:22
when we send light to a battle that happened to our ancestor, it's
33:27
not going to feel great. It's never going to be like, wow,
33:30
I feel great today. No, But can we make it a little bit
33:32
less traumatizing as it than it was when we first arrived there, can we
33:38
lighten up the energy just a little bit, so even in forgiveness as well,
33:43
if things are just really just very, very difficult, we're not asking
33:47
to run a mile. We're just saying, can we just take just peel
33:52
a couple layers off of the pain and just kind of neutralize an energy that
33:58
perhaps was very difficult. And I think that the more that people are open
34:01
to doing that, there would be so many rewards. And it's just so
34:07
interesting to hear you say that about you know, what are people thinking about
34:10
at the end of their life. I just hope that to at whatever level
34:16
people are ready to meet and engage with some of the things I'm talking about
34:22
in the book, I hope that it's helpful to them. I just like
34:25
to think at the end of this particular life, of course, I believe
34:30
we've been here before and we're coming back again, but that you know,
34:35
one of the big teachings of the Buddhists is that we should be mindful of
34:37
every moment that we're living that we're really preparing to let go of things that
34:45
we're creating a lot of trauma for us, so that we can go into
34:47
that next space, that spiritual dimension, feeling more peaceful by letting go of
34:53
some of the things that are troubling us and the now. And I think
34:57
forgiveness is the door to that. It's so powerful. And this should also
35:01
include self forgiveness for any omission that they should offered their departed loved one.
35:08
Wow. Yes, I definitely agree with that. We're so hard on ourselves.
35:15
There are exercise in this book as well to help individuals go into self
35:21
forgiveness. I think that's for many people maybe the hardest thing to do.
35:28
We have to we want to extend grace to everyone else, but we've got
35:31
to turn and extend the grace to ourselves as well. I really believe that
35:37
most people are good people and they're doing the best they can with the circumstances
35:44
that they're being presented, and that includes ourselves, you know, And that
35:50
can be a super tough one for people as well. But you're so right,
35:52
it's so important. And one of the messages that I share with many
35:57
many people is tomorrow has never gathering. If you love someone, tell them
36:01
today, If someone has hurt you in some way, try and forgive them
36:06
today. If you feel that you've hurt someone else, ask for forgiveness today
36:10
and always extend gratitude. That's so so important. I completely and one hundred
36:16
percent agree. It's yeah, we don't know what's coming around the corner,
36:22
and you're right, today is the day. This is it, you know,
36:27
I especially when I was younger, I think I used to spend a
36:30
lot of time thinking about what's coming next, or you know, and then
36:34
we've all, you know, taken trips down memory lane. But in reality,
36:37
the only moment we have is this moment, and like you said,
36:40
this is the day today, So you don't know what's coming around the corner.
36:45
Just be grateful for everything that we have. We have so many blessings,
36:51
so many things to feel thankful for, and just yeah, love everybody
36:57
in this moment as best we can. What is soul retrieval and how may
37:01
this be accomplished? Yeah, this is a super powerful exercise where we can
37:07
in the case of what we're describing, it could be any person. But
37:12
let's say it's a parent or some other loved one. You can meet with
37:15
them in a sacred space and you're just saying, hey, do you have
37:19
anything that belongs to me, and if they do, they can present it
37:23
to you by putting it out on their hands. And again this is in
37:27
the spiritual arena. They might give you an object. They might give you
37:34
an emotional thing like gratitude or courage or thankfulness or just love. They might
37:42
send you love, or they might send you an object, and you can
37:44
pick that up and put it inside yourself. And then there's a space there
37:50
for identifying like well, let's say it was a box. Okay, well
37:53
what does that represent? And people say, well, that just represents love
37:58
or you know whatever it represents, right, and they can receive those things
38:02
and then giving back things that belong to other people. Maybe we're carrying the
38:08
burdens of another person on a spiritual level when we reach inside ourselves and we're
38:15
able to give those things back going you know what, it's okay for me
38:19
to give that back or to let that go right now so that I can
38:22
free up more of my life force for the purpose that I have now.
38:25
And then there's a kind of a beautiful I wrote a book on Hunah that
38:30
was my first book where there's like ao exercise where we're recognizing there's a light
38:37
in between people. We can cut the chords and send a loving light.
38:42
Cut cut the cords of discord, let's say, and just send love and
38:45
peace, total forgiveness. You know, we're releasing the past. We're just
38:51
living in the now. We're sending love and that gratitude and forgiveness that you
38:54
mentioned a minute ago, and just moving forward. So it can be very
38:59
very profound to do a soul retrieval. So we discover a past life with
39:05
one of our family members, how may we heal what had transpired in that
39:09
lifetime. Let's say, well, you go into the inner theater and one
39:19
of the exercises will be to, you know, go see how we've known.
39:22
Let's just use mother as see example. You're traveling into the past.
39:27
There's a scene there. You'll go into okay, what year is this and
39:30
you say, well it's eighteen sixty two? Okay, great, what was
39:32
happening there? They can describe that scene and then there's a recognition, maybe
39:39
not as much of the I mean, of course, yes, it's maybe
39:43
a foreign country, it's an interesting place, but the more important part is
39:46
like what's happening there? Like what's happening in the relationship, How is the
39:51
relationship there? And then can we go ahead and notice there maybe parallels between
39:57
the relationship that we were having back then and the one we're having now.
40:00
And again, as I mentioned earlier, we can recognize there's good in everything.
40:05
We have a lot to be thankful for, so let's look at that.
40:08
And yet if there's places that need improvement, let's also look at that
40:13
as well. Blessings, learnings, What did we come to learn together?
40:20
And then bring that new knowledge and awareness into the here and now. So
40:23
when we come back, then we can address that parent or that whoever,
40:29
that loved one, that sibling, that cowork or whoever it is, it
40:32
could be anybody. We can address them then from this different perspective because we've
40:37
gone inside and done what I would call we've healed the part of ourselves that
40:42
someone else. So any internal projection that we might be having on someone or
40:47
things that we couldn't get over, maybe we've come in our own mind and
40:52
our soul at this spiritual dimension to a different understanding of something that was very
40:55
troubling. And so we're just kind of letting it go now. And so
41:00
then when we show up to that other person, our whole energy, our
41:05
vibes, they've totally changed. You know, we've let it go, and
41:07
then we can just start moving forward with this new, more peaceful understanding of
41:13
reality. And you also devote a chapter to reimagining and rewriting our ancestral history
41:22
and past lives. Please you're an example of this practice. There's been so
41:25
many people I've worked with that have had just difficult things go on with family.
41:32
You know, they may have been adopted, they may have been growing
41:37
up in foster care, and things like that. Maybe having, like I
41:42
said, a wide range of challenges with parents. That makes this forgiveness journey
41:47
that we discussed earlier very very difficult. So one thing we can do.
41:52
You know, some people have never met their family, they've never met their
41:55
birth parents, or they've got a difficult relationship with parents or people who have
42:01
raised them, or whatever you want to say. And so sometimes the things
42:06
that have happened to us in the past, we have a story about what
42:09
happened there, and then that story starts to carry forward into our hear and
42:14
now and into the future, and it's informing how the future can show up
42:19
for us. And so an exercise would be Let's say we wanted to go
42:23
into the past to an event that was very hurtful, and we could just
42:29
rather than thinking about how it actually went down and happened, we could rewrite,
42:32
well, what if what if I had never heard that hurtful statement,
42:37
or what if this and that hadn't actually happened. Let's go ahead and write
42:40
that out and think about how that would feel, how that would go if
42:45
I was experiencing a totally different reality, and then start to just release the
42:54
stuck energy around the painful thing from the past and just move forward as if
43:00
things had worked out differently, and just projecting that ideal image out into the
43:07
future into what we want to create. I get into the book about like
43:12
if anyone's a science fiction fan, which I kind of like science fiction myself,
43:15
but they always have that paradox like if I go back and kill my
43:21
grandfather, then I'll never be born. And so I cited an article in
43:25
there where they actually have found that's really not true because of the nature of
43:29
quantum physics. So people might be saying, well, I can't go rewrite
43:34
my history and move forward from here, because then nobody who I know would
43:38
even be alive. And all that, but again, just call it the
43:42
realm of the imagination. Just using your imaginative power to make the world the
43:47
way you want it to be, and then to move forward for the rest
43:52
of today and tomorrow and into the future, taking one step at a time,
43:55
one moment at a time, just acting as if this world was exactly
44:00
the way you want it to be, and believing that these things are possible.
44:07
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44:12
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44:16
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on box Novus, My guest this week is Shelley care her new book,
44:54
Ancestral Energy Healing, A guide Book. What is muscle testing and how is
45:01
this used in ancestral healing. M Yes, So muscle testing is where you're
45:12
crafting statements, and then you're starting to notice that there is strength in things
45:19
that are true and weakness in things that are false. And I think truth
45:24
is very subjective. So I know a lot of your listeners out here know
45:30
a lot about doing different applied kinesiology and using pendulums and muscle testing. But
45:37
basically we can craft statements. So I have like an exercise where if I
45:44
need to get some guidance on something, I would craft a statement. It's
45:47
okay to ask these questions. I'll get a yes or no. In this
45:52
I always like to say, in my current life, my given name is
45:57
Shelley care. You know, I like to I want to find my current
46:00
lifetime and then obviously i'mn't going to get a yes, and then I'll craft
46:04
another statement. You know, my name is Mark No, and then I'll
46:10
get a no. And so muscle to And then when you're testing this,
46:15
there's different ways I go through in the book where I like to hold my
46:17
arm out and I'm using an object. That's my favorite way in the book.
46:22
I'm guiding readers through different ways you can do it, but I usually
46:24
use a heavy object. So when I'm saying something truthful, an object,
46:30
no matter how heavy, it is as light as a feather. And when
46:32
I'm saying something like I'm not stating my own name, for example, then
46:37
the object is so heavy I cannot lift it even a millimeter off of a
46:43
desk. And so through this you begin to get into rapport with the wisdom
46:50
that is inherent within the spirit and the soul. And so through that then
46:54
you can use that to identify spaces in the body that need healing. And
47:00
in this context of this book, we're learning these muscle testing and applied kinesiology
47:08
processes so that we can start to identify the places in the body that are
47:14
specifically relating to either your father's side of the family or your mother's side of
47:20
the family. And then from there we're going to we do specific exercises to
47:24
it to send healing in light to those areas once they are duly identified.
47:30
Some of us are familiar with the term cord cutting. How is this defined
47:36
and applied in this work? Yes, on our last segment, I was
47:42
talking about my first book that I wrote on Hunah and this this cord cutting,
47:51
healing forgiveness exercise. So in a lot of the work, because of
47:55
that early influence I had from the study and from writing that book, I
48:01
started getting into this mindset that one way to I think a lot of spiritual
48:10
practice is getting in our minds, using our imaginations to begin creating circumstances that
48:19
are more favorable for ourselves. So if we're feeling challenged in any way,
48:23
we can use the inner mind and the imagination to imagine that there's an energetic
48:30
chord that is emanating from us, and in this case, it's connecting us
48:35
with the soul essence or higher self of Mother, the sole essence or higher
48:39
self of Father, and all the ancestors on either side of the family.
48:44
And so we can begin to notice that connection. We can cut chords,
48:51
we can send light into these connections and brighten things up a bit, and
48:57
so it can be very powerful and again just reframing the way we're viewing reality,
49:02
and it can also be very very energizing. How may the recognition of
49:09
ancestral healing be applied to actual illness? Well, the thing is in that
49:21
strange space that I was in when I had my mystery illness. The book
49:30
kind of steps you through, first of all acknowledging how muscle testing and applied
49:36
kinesiology works. Then we're going to use that to start identifying different sides of
49:43
the body, in different places within the body where let's say the maternal line
49:49
or the paternal father's line is actually embodied in ourselves. And so then you
49:57
can start thinking about you know, I think we all, I would think,
50:01
have different weird aches and pains. Maybe they just rise up out of
50:07
nowhere. Sometimes we don't know where they're coming from. Some maybe from actual
50:10
like maybe we did high school sports and now we've injured ourselves I mean,
50:15
and any other new Maybe we were in a car accident, I mean,
50:17
anything could have happened, and we could sometimes explain that some of these things
50:23
were happening because the things that happened to us in our current life. However,
50:28
there are some little twitchy things that I can say only for myself.
50:32
You know that I have that. I go, wow, you know,
50:35
I wonder where that came from. And then when I started seeing this information,
50:39
I started realizing that some of these things are not actually about me,
50:46
and they're not actually about my past lives. They are relating to my ancestors,
50:51
and so if I can just send light into those areas, then that
50:55
can alleviate it. And so as readers become more conscious about that, I
51:02
think there's a natural inclination that if something hurts, or if something is unpleasant,
51:09
and of course I've done this, you just want to you want it
51:12
to go away, you want it to stop, You want to take a
51:14
pill, you want to run away. You know, I need to go
51:16
take a tile in all right now or whatever, and you don't really stop
51:20
to think, Wait a minute, what if I would just sit here and
51:22
be with that and send light into it, then there's actually a shift and
51:27
a change that can come. I had gone to a posse and a course
51:32
back in twenty nineteen where I was locked in a center for ten days in
51:37
silence, you know, meditating, and we had to be silent, and
51:42
of course none of my relatives thought I could keep this big mouth shut for
51:45
that long. But guess what I did, thank you during that time in
51:49
that silence. You know, I started also there experiencing a lot of discomfort
51:53
in the body, and the you know, the instruction was just sit there
51:58
and just be with it, you know, just don't try to move,
52:01
don't try to run away, just try to be with it. And I
52:05
think that that teaching kind of led me to this, the ability to understand
52:15
that some of the things that I probably would have attributed, as I mentioned
52:17
earlier, to maybe my own past lives. When I had that illness in
52:22
twenty twenty one, I started saying, wait a minute, some of that
52:24
stuff I think is more due to my ancestors. And yes, I want
52:30
to write I don't want to feel pain. Nobody does, you know.
52:31
We want to be in comfort, but all of us have, whether it's
52:37
spiritual, emotional pain or physical pain, we all have pain. Everybody does.
52:42
That's that's you. You know, it's just part of life. And
52:46
we want to try to obviously make our lives as pleasant as we can make
52:51
them. And I think there's there's a natural inclination again to want to push
52:59
that stuff away, make it go away. I'm just going to turn away.
53:01
I don't want to look at that, I don't want I just want
53:04
to ignore it. It's going to go away. But in this we're really
53:07
inviting ourselves, maybe before there's an actual pain that needs to be addressed,
53:13
right just to go inside to some of these spaces, find out where they
53:15
are. Maybe they don't hurt, maybe they're just maybe they're just there.
53:21
But can we just send love into those areas so that we don't again have
53:24
to go through some of those more unpleasant aspects of life that we all go
53:30
through. And may these techniques prevent the transfer and heal future generations. You
53:37
know, I guess we maybe we'll be back by then to see how this
53:40
is going to play out. But I have to believe, just based on
53:46
my own understanding, and I know your listeners share a lot of these kinds
53:52
of thoughts that you know, we understand that there is really no such thing
53:57
as time because of the multiverse send the way the quantum fields works. I
54:01
have to believe that when we can create more light and space within our own
54:06
bodies by engaging in grace to those in the past, that that more peaceful
54:14
us can then send our light out to the future. And in these exercises
54:21
we actually do make a conscious effort then to can we see those people yet?
54:25
No, can we go into our minds eye though, and can we
54:30
really encounter their spiritual essence of those people who are going to be here after
54:35
we're onto our next life. Yes we can, and we can send them
54:39
light, We can send them peace and love and hope and those things.
54:45
And I am one who does believe that it makes a difference absolutely. What
54:51
would you like readers to take away from Ancestral Energy Healing. I'd like people
54:58
to and just engage with the processes in a gentle, loving way, just
55:04
to open up to the idea that the ancestors are important, that it's important
55:10
to acknowledge the past in order to heal the present and the future. And
55:19
I hope that it'll just bring some awareness to people. If you're feeling discomfort
55:22
today, just to send love and grace to yourself and consider that potentially if
55:30
we could extend that love and grace into the past two of the ancestors,
55:35
that it may indeed help in the here and now. The wisdom of my
55:39
guest Shelley Care her brand new book, Ancestral Energy Healing, a guidebook.
55:45
Shelley, One more time, please share with our listeners where they can get
55:49
your books and find out more about you. Yes, my website is pastlifelady
55:54
dot com. I have a book link there and you can see me on
55:57
Facebook at past Life Lady Shelly, thank you so much for joining us and
56:01
sharing all this wonderful information. Victor, it's been such a joy to be
56:06
with you today. Thank you so much, and many many blessings to you,
56:09
my friend. Thank you and to you and thank you for joining us
56:14
on Vox Novus. I'm Victor, the Voice Firman. Have a wonderful week.