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Pirates show interest in Eugenio Suarez, but is it mutual? · Bucco Territory: A Pittsburgh Pirates Podcast

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody?
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Territory presented by
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Speaker 2: the Foul Territory Network. I'm your host, Noah Hiles, and
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Speaker 2: as always, joining me are my co hosts j Aka
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Speaker 2: Josh Harrison and Platinum Key aka Mark Fellas. A lot
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Speaker 2: to get into, and we will start the show with
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Speaker 2: some widespread baseball news. The Dodgers ruined the sport again.
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Speaker 2: That was the reaction this weekend or was that Thursday?
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Speaker 2: Is when that news broke right, Yes, because I was
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Speaker 2: leaving the Penguins game when that signing was announced.
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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker signs.
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Speaker 2: A four year, two hundred and forty million dollar deal
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Speaker 2: that's a sixty million dollar AAV with the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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Speaker 2: The Mets allegedly or reportedly offered him more money of
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Speaker 2: only a small fraction of this is deferred compared to
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Speaker 2: other deals, but still, I mean, this is just another
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Speaker 2: thing where another great player goes to the Dodgers, another
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Speaker 2: high paying contract.
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Speaker 1: Goes to their payroll, and you look at it.
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Speaker 2: I've never seen, I have not seen a transaction in
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Speaker 2: the sports world this universally hated.
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Speaker 1: Since when Kadie.
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Speaker 2: Yes and that was different in the sense where it
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Speaker 2: was like people were more mad at KD Right. It
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Speaker 2: was like the individual player saying like, why would you
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Speaker 2: allow this super team to be created?
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Speaker 1: You created an imbalance where.
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Speaker 2: This was everyone's just mad at the one team, just
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Speaker 2: saying like, you've got to be kindning and it's mad
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Speaker 2: at the team and mad at the league, just mad
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Speaker 2: at the situation.
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Speaker 1: Mark. I mean, you're a die hard.
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Speaker 2: Fan of a team that now, I mean, Kyle Tucker
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Speaker 2: is making two thirds of their payroll for this.
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Speaker 3: Time coming and that's not counting a luxury tax.
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Speaker 2: Right, So I mean that's what what do you have
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Speaker 2: to say when you see something like this?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was shocking. You you know that
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Speaker 3: there's not a lot of parody in the sport, but
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Speaker 3: I kind of assumed that the Dodgers weren't going to
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Speaker 3: pay one hundred and ten percent luxury tax on sixty
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Speaker 3: million and pay a guy one hundred and twenty six
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Speaker 3: million dollars or whatever per year, or not pay him,
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Speaker 3: but pay one hundred and twenty six million for a player.
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Speaker 3: So that was shocking. I mean, you know, the Pirates
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Speaker 3: are never going to be close to the top. Hell,
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm excited that they're not bottom five. You know,
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Speaker 3: that's that's a winner. Yeah, exactly. So I guess it
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Speaker 3: didn't really change anything from a pirate's perspective. It only
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Speaker 3: just highlights how uncompetitive baseball is right now. It feels
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Speaker 3: like it's it's frustrating. You know, you'd like to see
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Speaker 3: some of these top teams at least spread out the talent,
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Speaker 3: but just have all of this talent pool in the
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Speaker 3: one team. And I think the difference between Kevin Durant
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Speaker 3: during the Warriors, all the teams that offer Kevin Durant
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Speaker 3: in that offseason, we're offering him the same contract. And
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Speaker 3: here you can't blame Kyle Tucker because he took the
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Speaker 3: deal that gave him the most money. If I was
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Speaker 3: in Kyle Tucker's scenario, I probably would have done the
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Speaker 3: exact same thing. I think a lot of us would have.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to be like, eah, I'll just
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Speaker 3: take a few million less to, you know, maintain the
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Speaker 3: balance of the sport. No, so I don't put it
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Speaker 3: on Kyle Tucker. I put it on where major League
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Speaker 3: Baseball is right now, and it sets us up for
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Speaker 3: a very very interesting offseason next year, Josh.
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Speaker 2: As a former player, obviously you're happy to see guys
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Speaker 2: get this type of money, right, you want to see
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Speaker 2: everybody get paid. But if you're a player on any
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Speaker 2: other team but the Dodgers, and you're just seeing this
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Speaker 2: offseason where they're adding Diaz, they add Kyle Tucker in
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Speaker 2: addition to what they already have, I mean, are you
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Speaker 2: are you able to recognize that, Hey, like, it's great
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Speaker 2: to see everyone getting paid, but our sport has a
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Speaker 2: flaw here and it's hard to ignore.
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Speaker 4: You.
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Speaker 5: Definitely, as a player, you know this is what you, ultimately,
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Speaker 5: I don't want to say play the game for, because
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Speaker 5: you play for the love of the game. For me,
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Speaker 5: money is always just a byproduct of what happens. And granted,
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Speaker 5: we know where free agency stands in the market, and
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Speaker 5: you know what's happened over the course of baseball's you know, lifespan.
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Speaker 4: But as a player, I never really got.
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Speaker 5: Too much into what teams had who or what, because
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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, these are guys I'm
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Speaker 5: playing against.
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Speaker 4: I think I'm just as good, if not better.
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Speaker 5: And at the same time, we know there are levels
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Speaker 5: to you know, free agent signings and some aren't gonna go.
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Speaker 4: To certain levels.
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Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, you know, as
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Speaker 5: a player, I didn't really care who signed where.
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Speaker 4: All I cared about was who was in the locker
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Speaker 4: room with me.
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Speaker 5: And yes, there are times that within that locker room
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Speaker 5: I felt that we didn't have a team that was,
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Speaker 5: you know, fully equipped to compete in.
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Speaker 4: Every day and every night.
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Speaker 5: But that also wasn't something I can control. You know,
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Speaker 5: that's that's ultimately an organization thing. But yes, you can
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Speaker 5: look around and say, oh man, the Dodgers got better,
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Speaker 5: but some other teams have also gotten better. And the
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Speaker 5: Dodgers went seven games with the Blue Jays. It's not
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Speaker 5: like they just ran through the whole league. Yes, you
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Speaker 5: can look on paper and look at what they have,
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Speaker 5: but I'm a firm believer that paper is in everything.
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Speaker 5: You know, you can have the best team on paper,
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Speaker 5: but that doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna win. And while
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Speaker 5: the while the Dodgers have won the last two years,
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Speaker 5: I mean, things have just gone right for them. And
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Speaker 5: you know, if that's a team that's got everything going right,
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Speaker 5: why wouldn't they try to make their team better? And
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Speaker 5: if that is at the expensive you know the rest
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Speaker 5: of the league being upset. I mean, at the end
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Speaker 5: of the day, you know, that's just the nature of
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Speaker 5: where we are. But you know, as I said, as
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Speaker 5: a player, you don't really sit here and be like, oh,
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Speaker 5: the Dodgers are the monster. No, the Dodgers are the
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Speaker 5: LA Dodgers. They are a Major League Baseball team just
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Speaker 5: like the other twenty nine. But the other twenty nine,
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Speaker 5: you know, also have to make sure they're doing their
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Speaker 5: due diligious to put the best product on the field.
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Speaker 5: You know, we can't just sit here and point fingers
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Speaker 5: and also know that not everybody has the same spending power,
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Speaker 5: but to some extent, there is more that could be done.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I had a couple of reactions to this one. One
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Speaker 2: the people who are mad at Tucker, I don't understand it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a major League baseball player, why
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Speaker 2: in the world would you not want to play for
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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Dodgers right now? I mean, you have
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Speaker 2: no pressure when you're at the plate. I mean Otawani's
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Speaker 2: at bats aren't as pressure because he has Mookie Betts
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Speaker 2: sitting behind him, or Freddy Freeman or however.
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Speaker 1: They want to structure this lineup.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's a thing where I mean you kind
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Speaker 2: of know it's like, yeah, they have the best odds
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Speaker 2: to win, and they're paying the most, They're playing the best,
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Speaker 2: they have the best front office, they have the best analytics.
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Speaker 1: They do everything right.
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Speaker 2: It's not just the team that's coming in here with
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Speaker 2: the big pay, the big pocketbook.
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Speaker 1: That was supposed to be the Mets.
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Speaker 2: Right when Cohen bought the Mets, he was supposed to
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Speaker 2: be the guy that came in and changed baseball and
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Speaker 2: just offered everything. But you're seeing he's not necessarily taking
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Speaker 2: the highest offer because the Mets missed the playoffs last year.
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Speaker 2: He went to the better team that was offering high pay.
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Speaker 2: And I want to give credit here. Just Baseball's podcast
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Speaker 2: mentioned this, this this.
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Speaker 1: Concept that I totally agree.
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Speaker 2: Steve Cohen was supposed to be this like bad guy, right,
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Speaker 2: this this evil empire who came in and spent all
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Speaker 2: this money.
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Speaker 1: He's being used as a pawn. Now they're just using him.
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Speaker 2: To say, Okay, this is what we'll offer something just
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Speaker 2: slightly higher or something in that neighborhood and they'll come
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Speaker 2: play for us because we're a better organization than the
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Speaker 2: new York.
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Speaker 3: Mets in that game for the Mets.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not for the Mets.
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Speaker 2: And that's that's what's crazy, is they're just taking advantage
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Speaker 2: of this in a different way. But yeah, it's I mean,
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Speaker 2: I think when I saw that number, I thought, that's
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Speaker 2: a dramatic overpay for Kyle Tucker, a guy who's never
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Speaker 2: had a five war season. I mean, I I if you,
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Speaker 2: regardless budget aside, if I had to find the most
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Speaker 2: value with sixty million dollars in one season, I don't
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Speaker 2: know if you're getting the best bang for your buck
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Speaker 2: in Kyle Tucker. I don't think the Dodgers care. I
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Speaker 2: think that's it. This was a flex. This was a
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Speaker 2: flex on the whole league. It's it doesn't matter how
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Speaker 2: poor you are or how rich you are. We can
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Speaker 2: get whoever we want, and we will decide the price.
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Speaker 2: And if we overpay, oh well we wanted Kyle Tucker
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Speaker 2: and we.
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Speaker 1: Have them now and you don't. And that's the problem.
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Speaker 2: When they have such a high demand that it doesn't matter,
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Speaker 2: Like logic doesn't apply, finances.
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Speaker 1: Don't really apply. That nothing else I mean.
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Speaker 4: Cares.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've just created such a high demand because I mean,
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Speaker 2: they're not cheating.
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Speaker 1: They're not doing anything illegal, but.
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Speaker 2: They've just recognized the system that was in place and
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Speaker 2: created a plan that worked so.
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Speaker 1: Flawless, and now they can't be stopped. And I think
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Speaker 1: it is going.
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Speaker 2: To have to take some some structured changes to even
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Speaker 2: out the playing field because I don't know how you
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Speaker 2: slow this monster down now. It's it's gotten to a
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Speaker 2: point where, I mean, you you, if they stay healthy,
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Speaker 2: there's just no way.
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Speaker 1: And other teams beating them, there's just no way. And
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Speaker 1: I don't watch yeah baseball, but I mean it is,
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Speaker 1: but baseball.
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Speaker 5: I mean, good teams stay healthy all the time. It's
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Speaker 5: sometimes underperformed baseball. That's why I don't believe fully in it.
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Speaker 4: Like I get it.
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Speaker 5: Yes, there there is a you know, disconnect all the
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Speaker 5: way through, but you are still banking on guys that
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Speaker 5: have to go out there and hit and perform. And yes,
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Speaker 5: they might be doing things a little bit better, makes
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Speaker 5: it a little bit more you know, attractive to guys
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Speaker 5: that want to go there because they see the success.
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Speaker 5: But at the same time, you know, this next year
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Speaker 5: is going to be a big year to see how
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Speaker 5: things happen, because I mean, off season is going to
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Speaker 5: be big free agency still you know, being affected by it,
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Speaker 5: but it's gonna it's not something that's going to be
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Speaker 5: easy to just shake up the system because as you see,
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Speaker 5: is the same conversations that's happened for years, and so
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Speaker 5: it's it's a slippery slope because what is the right fix.
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Speaker 5: Who's to say what is right, who's to say what's wrong?
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Speaker 5: You really got to get in the room and make
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Speaker 5: sure that both sides if there is some type of agreement,
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Speaker 5: so there's got to be compromised. But I don't think
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Speaker 5: you're going to see compromise from either side, at least
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Speaker 5: not soon.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think this solidified the fact that
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Speaker 2: we're going to have a shortened baseball season.
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Speaker 4: That's I mean Kyle Tucker's situation. He's like, well, I
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Speaker 4: mean I went to free agency the right year.
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Speaker 5: I mean, not being funny for sure, sure, I mean yeah,
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Speaker 5: that is a situation where he's like, you know what,
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Speaker 5: maybe he was like I might not have necessarily thought
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Speaker 5: about the Dodgers, but just the most money I'm gonna
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Speaker 5: get and we don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah, I mean, ultimately,
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Speaker 5: everybody's decision is their own decision, not whether you agree
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Speaker 5: with it or not. But I mean we're definitely headed down,
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Speaker 5: you know, some some tough times, tough for them probably.
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Speaker 3: And it's not just free agency either. I mean it
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Speaker 3: just was reported on Monday that the Reds had reached
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Speaker 3: out to Eli Da La Cruz for a contract extension.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I saw that and said that he had exceeded I
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Speaker 5: think Bottles right or something like that.
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Speaker 3: Ever, and he wasn't interested in Why would he be
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Speaker 3: because he just look at this free agency, right. I
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Speaker 3: would not be signing up for a deal until I
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Speaker 3: knew what after twenty twenty seven looks like.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, well there are still things to talk about
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Speaker 2: in the year twenty twenty six, things that to the pirates.
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Speaker 2: All right, talking some buckos now, guys, Geno Suarez. He's
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Speaker 2: probably the biggest name hitter still on the market right now,
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Speaker 2: and the Pirates are interested on Foul territory. We're recording
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Speaker 2: this on Monday, Ken Rosenthal talked about it. He said
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Speaker 2: he knows for a fact. He confirmed Jason Mackey's reporting
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Speaker 2: from earlier this month where the Pirates do have interest
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Speaker 2: in genoswar, but maybe that interest isn't as mutual, right.
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Speaker 1: He thinks that.
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Speaker 2: Suarez still would probably rather prefer to play for a
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Speaker 2: team that's a little bit more competitive. Didn't mention money
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Speaker 2: at all in his reporting there, which I found interesting. Guys,
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Speaker 2: let's just talk some Gino here, I mean, is this possible?
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Speaker 1: I mean we've talked third base all off season.
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Speaker 2: I think both of us, or all three of us
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Speaker 2: are kind of under the belief that, you know, the
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Speaker 2: funds might be limited at this point. Who knows if
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Speaker 2: they have Gino Suarez money, and if they do have
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Speaker 2: Genosa as money, are they going to be able to
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Speaker 2: get this guy? Yes or no, and Mark like what
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Speaker 2: needs to be done in order for that to happen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they need to show maybe sign one
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Speaker 3: more guy, make one more trade, make one more move
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Speaker 3: to really encourage him and say, hey, we're trying to
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Speaker 3: compete this year. This roster is far improved from last year.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Maingum, Ryan O'Hearn a big additions, But is
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Speaker 3: that really going to convince that Juhano Suarez not resigned
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Speaker 3: with the Seattle Mariners, who are projected to be one
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Speaker 3: of the best teams in baseball next year. And so
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Speaker 3: it's just all of this, the past incompetence from the
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Speaker 3: Pirates these past few off seasons coming back to bite
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Speaker 3: them when they're actually trying now. And I think that's
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Speaker 3: the biggest frustration is they could have built a team
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Speaker 3: that Gino Suarez would love to come to and would
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Speaker 3: have signed to already if they had made the right moves,
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Speaker 3: if they had approached the off seasons like how they've
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Speaker 3: approached this offseason for the last couple. You had Paul
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Speaker 3: Skins on the team last offseason as well, why not
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Speaker 3: do it then when he was gonna win a cy
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Speaker 3: Young So that part's a little frustrating. Can't blame Gino,
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Speaker 3: but I really really hope that it works out. Maybe
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Speaker 3: a couple million can convince him and if it's there,
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Speaker 3: but maybe this is just like a negotiation tactic where
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Speaker 3: he knows the Pirates are the most in did he
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Speaker 3: says he wants to win. Maybe that, you know, lights
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Speaker 3: a little fire under Ben Sherrington's seed enough to give
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Speaker 3: him that extra opt out or whatever to get in
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Speaker 3: the sign.
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Speaker 2: That's not to cut you off early, Josh, but I
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Speaker 2: just want to say, I mean, that's how I interpreted
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Speaker 2: Ken's reporting. Is this is hojrge Polonko two point zero.
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Speaker 2: This is the same exact rhetoric that came from Horny Hypolonko.
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Speaker 2: It's you know, yeah, this this team is clearly the
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Speaker 2: most interested in me. But is there anyone else, anyone
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Speaker 2: else who wants me?
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Speaker 1: Anyone better? Cool?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can go to prom with the six,
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Speaker 2: but is there any seven or eight?
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Speaker 1: Right? Exactly yes, But that's how it reads.
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Speaker 2: It just seems like the pirates are more interested in
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Speaker 2: this guy than he is in them, and there's only
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Speaker 2: one way to overcome that, and that is overpaid.
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Speaker 1: That's what they have to do. And that's what this is.
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Speaker 1: This is a leverage play by Suarez.
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Speaker 2: You said I would rather go play for the price
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Speaker 2: that you're offering. I think a better team can offer
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Speaker 2: me that number or something close to it, and if
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Speaker 2: they do, I will go play there. If you want
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Speaker 2: me to sign with you right now, you're gonna have
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Speaker 2: to offer me a higher aav So, Josh.
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Speaker 1: I'll ask you, is this a guy where.
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Speaker 2: Rather than maybe offering him years, you just say, like,
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Speaker 2: we'll give you twenty million for one year and see.
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Speaker 1: Where it goes. Would that be the smarter pivot?
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Speaker 2: You just go all in with one high price tag
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Speaker 2: for one year and then say then you you know,
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Speaker 2: do what you did last year, and you get to
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Speaker 2: go through free agency all ever again.
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Speaker 5: Gino, No, while it may sound good to somebody, I
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Speaker 5: say no, one year twenty million is not enough to
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Speaker 5: say that I would be willing to spend. That's just
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Speaker 5: me personally. I can find value elsewhere and if that's
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Speaker 5: not gonna happen. It's one of those things where as
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Speaker 5: we sit here and say, this has been a long
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Speaker 5: time of doing to the player itself, and I don't
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Speaker 5: think one pay of twenty million is gonna be quite
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Speaker 5: worth it, because, as I say, you're banking on a lot.
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Speaker 4: What if he gets hurt?
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Speaker 5: You know, so instead of the twenty million, I would
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Speaker 5: almost look at maybe offering them some incentives. You know,
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Speaker 5: that might be another way to get somebody, because sometimes incentives, Hey,
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Speaker 5: if you play well, there's more.
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Speaker 4: Money to be made.
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Speaker 5: You know, I've gone through some contract negotiations where it's like, Okay,
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Speaker 5: this team might be offer more money, but this team
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Speaker 5: up front is like, you know, I know I've had
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Speaker 5: some injuries or you know, if I play X amount
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Speaker 5: of games or do this, you know, the potential earning
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Speaker 5: is more. So you know, you're gonna weigh options. And
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't necessarily throw twenty million at them. But whatever
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Speaker 5: his market is, obviously we know, you know, I agree
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Speaker 5: with you. It sounds like Polanco all over again, you know,
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Speaker 5: you know, trying to up the price. Is there somebody
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Speaker 5: that's going to go for it or obviously we know
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Speaker 5: you know, as we've talked, Pittsburgh probably will have to overpay.
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Speaker 5: But to me, can you can you somewhat do an
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Speaker 5: overpaid where it's like, you know what you can earn
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Speaker 5: the overpay if you exceed expectations.
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's just ironic that that's your
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Speaker 2: thought process, because it goes back to Mark's answer, like
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Speaker 2: they they've already damned themselves in that route. I mean,
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Speaker 2: the Rowdy to Lez thing, the I KF thing, both
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. They have a reputation that maybe
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Speaker 2: wouldn't want to have performance incentives and.
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Speaker 4: Spoke I wasn't aware of that, so.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know what now, And I will
18:39
Speaker 2: say I know for a fact, I think O'Hearn. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: O'Hearn definitely has performance incentives in his deal, So I
18:46
Speaker 2: mean that was that was worked out there. But yeah,
18:50
Speaker 2: that is a stigma in addition to them being cheap.
18:53
Speaker 2: I mean that kind of goes hand in hand players
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Speaker 2: And I've heard that from agents that players players on
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Speaker 2: the team worry when they get into the late months
19:03
Speaker 2: of the season.
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Speaker 1: Are they gonna take it bad.
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Speaker 5: I've been on a lot of teams that and trust me,
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Speaker 5: they're not the only team that's a baseball yeah. Sure,
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Speaker 5: but but the teams that do it right, really, you
19:17
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And I don't think it's anything
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Speaker 5: that's ever been put out, but teams will you know,
19:23
Speaker 5: behind closed doors, people are like, oh yeah, man, I
19:25
Speaker 5: remember so and so, like we weren't gonna make the playoffs,
19:28
Speaker 5: but they made sure to get this dude a couple
19:29
Speaker 5: of pinches to make sure he reached it, or or
19:31
Speaker 5: they made sure that this guy got his inning slim,
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I was like, you know
19:35
Speaker 5: that that's cool because guys work hard. But as you said,
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Speaker 5: they have a reputation, which obviously makes my point kind
19:43
Speaker 5: of you know, moved at the point. You know, but
19:47
Speaker 5: you know, you also have funny things different make things right.
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Speaker 2: It's just funny because I mean, there's there's those two
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Speaker 2: lists of teams, teams who do it the right way
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Speaker 2: and teams who maybe don't always do it the right way.
19:58
Speaker 2: And the Pirates are buried deep on the latter list.
20:03
Speaker 2: And for the way they've behaved in the last however
20:06
Speaker 2: many years, and like what Mark said, I mean, I
20:08
Speaker 2: think that's going to be the point here is they
20:10
Speaker 2: probably could have got a lot more talent this offseason
20:14
Speaker 2: had they just operated this way for the last couple
20:17
Speaker 2: of years. And because they didn't, I think that the
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Speaker 2: bad pr that they brought onto themselves might be the
20:25
Speaker 2: reason they don't have a Gino Suarez or a Horne
20:28
Speaker 2: Boloco in their lineup on opening day, So I think
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