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Who Killed Lottery Winner Abraham Shakespeare? · Murder Files Unsealed

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Speaker 1: Okay, so get this. We're talking about Abraham Shakespeare.
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Speaker 2: Abraham Shakespeare.
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Speaker 1: This Florida man wins thirty million bucks in the lottery.
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Speaker 2: Wow, gone gone.
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Speaker 1: Poof three years later? Oh no, it's like, be careful
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what you wish for. Right, we're going deep on this one. Okay,
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it's a we're using the floor Bomber Murders episode on this. Okay,
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it's about Shakespeare's case. Got you can find it on Peacock,
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Peacock or the Oxygen app. Okay, this whole thing, it's
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like ripped from the headlines, you know. Oh yeah, tragedy twists, turns.
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I bet even Shakespeare himself would be like, what.
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Speaker 2: The yeah exactly. It's it's really fascinating because you know,
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it kind of plays into that whole idea of the
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lottery curse.
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Speaker 1: Lottery curse.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, explain that it's this idea, right, that winning big
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win in the lottery doesn't always mean happily ever after, right. Shakespeare,
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I mean, he's like the poster child for this. How
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so he had it all mansion money, freedom, everything he
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thought he ever wanted gone just like that. It's like,
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what happened? Did he just walk away?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Or was there something more sinister going on? Okay, that's
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what makes this so captivating, you know.
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Speaker 1: Right, So it's a cautionary tale, but it's also a
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true crime thriller exactly wrapped into one. Yeah, so let's
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back up. Okay, Shakespeare hits the jackpot, right, Yeah, takes
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the seventeen million lump sum Wow, starts living the high life,
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and then boom disappears.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like, what did the investigators run into when they first
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started looking into this?
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Speaker 2: Well, one of the biggest things and this happens a
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lot in these sudden wealth cases.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Was Shakespeare's own generosity? Okay?
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Speaker 1: How did that make things hard?
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Speaker 2: He was known to help everybody, really, rent groceries, funerals,
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you name it. Wow, So try and figure this out, Okay,
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Who genuinely cared about him?
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Speaker 1: Okay? Right?
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Speaker 2: And who just wanted his money?
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Speaker 1: Tough?
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Speaker 2: Almost impossible to tell.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet everyone wanted to piece of that pie.
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So how did they even start untangling this whole mess?
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Speaker 2: They followed the money, followed the money. It could classic
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detective work, right, but especially important in a case like this.
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Speaker 1: Why why this case?
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Speaker 2: Think about it? If Shakespeare was gone? Yeah, those who
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owed him money. Yeah, wouldn't have to pay up. Ah,
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pretty strong motive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.
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Speaker 2: So this strategy, yeah, led them down a lot of
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different paths. Oh really, but one name kept popping up
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over and over again.
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Speaker 1: What name was that?
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Speaker 2: Derese d Moore?
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Speaker 1: D Moore? All right, she's a character we got to
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talk about. She comes into Shakespeare's life like a financial advisor, right, yeah,
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but then things get messy, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Things get really complicated. How So, basically, she took control
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control of Shakespeare's communication with everyone else. She was saying, oh,
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he's fine, he's laying low. Oh okay, but at the
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same time cutting him off, cut him off from us,
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from his family, his friends.
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Speaker 1: Oh see, that's red flag. Yeah, major red flag.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Investigators were like, wait a minute.
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Speaker 1: This doesn't sound right, especially when you consider what they
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found when they looked at the phone records.
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Speaker 2: Right, oh yeah, those phone records.
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Speaker 1: What about them?
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Speaker 2: Game changer? How so showed that after April ninth, two
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thousand and nine, Yeah, oh nine, Dia d Moore was
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the only person talking to Shakespeare.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow.
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Speaker 2: And then there's a whole thing with his phone just
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disappearing Shakespeare's phone. Yeah, and every time they asked more
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about it? Yeah, different story? Oh come on?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so that's suspicious. What did the investigators
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do to like? To try and get straight answers from her?
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Speaker 2: They had to get creative, okay. So they staged a
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Christmas call? Oh what a Christmas call to Shakespeare's mother. Okay.
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They had someone pretend to be Shakespeare, oh wow, hoping
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to get a reaction.
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Speaker 1: At him more okay, Yeah, to see if that gave
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them a clue.
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Speaker 2: Exactly clever?
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Speaker 1: Did it work?
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Speaker 2: It did? Her reaction during the call and after gave
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him what they needed.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So what happened?
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Speaker 2: Then? That's when they brought in the hit man cousin?
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What hYP mass undercover officer as a relative, a relative
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of someone more owed money too?
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Speaker 1: Oh so she owed this cousin money.
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Speaker 2: Okay, risky move, I bet, but sometimes you gotta go
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big or go home.
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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. So what happened?
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Speaker 2: It paid off? It did more, confessed spilled the details
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about Shakespeare's death.
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Speaker 1: She did to the undercover cop.
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Speaker 2: Even gave him the murder weapon.
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Speaker 1: Whoa. Okay, so they knew what happened to him, but
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they still needed to find his body, right, I bet
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she didn't make that easy.
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Speaker 2: Either, No, No, finding Shakespeare's body was well yeah, grim, Yeah,
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they found him buried, buried where under a concrete slab
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in her boyfriend's backyard.
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Speaker 1: MOR's boyfriend?
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Speaker 2: And get this, what the clothes he was Yeah? Match
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the ones from a video April ninth, last day anyone saw.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, so all signs pointing to more. What was
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the final nail in the coffin?
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Speaker 2: Well, the autopsy, yeah, showed he'd been shot, shot twice
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in the chest. Oh man, but what really put her there?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Shakespeare's blood where in her house?
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Speaker 1: Oh wow.
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Speaker 2: Couldn't deny that.
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Speaker 1: So they had her dead to rights at that point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing, like how they put all the pieces together. Yeah,
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but wait, there's more. There's a whole lawsuit thing with
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this guy, Michael Ford. Okay, it's like a twist on
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top of a twist. Oh wow, So this Michael Ford,
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he claimed that Shakespeare stole the winning ticket from him.
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What Yeah, can you imagine suing someone for winning the lottery?
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Speaker 2: That's that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: So they were co workers, Ford and Shakespeare. They stopped
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at a store on their way to Miami. Okay, Ford
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says he bought the tickets. Yeah, Shakespeare says he did.
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Speaker 2: Classic he said, she said, right, but.
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Speaker 1: With millions of dollars at steak.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Did Ford have any proof?
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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, from what I can tell. Yeah,
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it was his word against Shakespeare's.
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Speaker 1: Really just his word.
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Speaker 2: He said he bought the tickets. Yeah, but nothing to
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back it up.
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Speaker 1: No, no receipts, no nothing, no security footage, nothing from
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the store, no witnesses, nobody saw him buy the ticket.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like it.
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Speaker 1: I bet that played a big part in what the
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jury decided. Oh they sided with Shakespeare, right, they did.
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Speaker 2: They ruled that the tickets belonged to Shakespeare.
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Speaker 1: So he won the lawsuit.
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Speaker 2: He did.
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Speaker 1: But think about the toll it must have taken. Oh yeah,
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I mean having your integrity question like that, absolutely on
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top of everything else.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, to have your character attack like that.
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Speaker 1: While you're trying to adjust to being a multimillionaire. Right,
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that's a lot.
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Speaker 2: A lot to handle. Yeah, and it shows you what's
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that that dark side, dark side of human nature? Oh,
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big money is involved. Yeah, people do crazy things, right,
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Greed can push people to make these crazy claims. Yeah,
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throw friendships away Oh for sure act in ways they
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never thought they would, I get it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So even with all his money, Shakespeare was still vulnerable
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to people like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Oh yeah, and that's a good point. You know,
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money doesn't make you immune to that kind.
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Speaker 1: Of stuff, to manipulation. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: In fact, it probably makes you a bigger target.
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Speaker 1: Yeah right. So we had the lawsuit, but even after
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winning that, Shakespeare ended up broke. How'd that happen?
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Speaker 2: Well, remember that generosity we talked about. Yeah, that, plus
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you know, he wasn't exactly a financial whiz, made him
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a prime target.
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Speaker 1: So he was just giving money away left and right
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pretty much.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, help those in need, which is great. Yeah, but
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there were definitely people who took advantage. Oh yeah, and
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then there was dd Moore sismatically draining his accounts for herself, Yeah,
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for herself.
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Speaker 1: It's just it's heartbreaking. I mean, the guy goes from
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nothing to everything and then loses it all because people
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took advantage of his good nature.
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Speaker 2: It's a tough lesson. Wealth without wisdom, Yeah, can disappear
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just as fast as it came.
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Speaker 1: And it's crazy to think that he actually regretted when
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in yeah said he would have been better off broke.
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Speaker 2: A powerful statement, Yes, I'd have been better off broke,
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shows how disillusion he became realized money didn't bring him
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what he thought it would.
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Speaker 1: It's such a contrast to that excitement when he first won.
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Absolutely went from rags to riches, yeah, back to ruin
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in just a few years. It's tragic and it kind
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of shows how important it is to be smart, not
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just about money, but like emotionally too.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, emotional intelligence.
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Speaker 1: Especially with sudden wealth.
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Speaker 2: It's about knowing how to handle the social stuff that
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comes with money. Yeah, recognizing who's genuine, who's not right.
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Those skills can make or break you.
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Speaker 1: And in Shakespeare's case, it seems like the money was
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more trouble than it was worth.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and D D. Moore she was right at the
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heart of a lot of that trouble. Oh yeah, master manipulator.
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She use her charm, her smarts to get his trust,
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then just drained his finances, controlled his communication, isolated him,
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and then orchestrated his murder. It's chilling, it's.
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Speaker 1: Scary how far greed can push someone. And then to
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top it off, was that she stages her own kidnapping
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to avoid getting her car repossessed. Seriously, talk about a
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sense of entitlement.
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: It's like the whole time it's deceit, manipulation, doing whatever
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it takes to protect yourself, no matter who gets hurt.
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It's twisted, but it teaches us something right about greed, greed,
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financial smarts, absolutely, and having good people around.
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Speaker 2: You, especially when big money comes into the picture.
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Speaker 1: Right, You need people you can trust. So it's not
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just about the money. It's about being smart and careful exactly,
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because not everyone's going to have your best interests at heart.
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Speaker 2: Especially when there's that much money floating around, right. Yeah,
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all right.
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Speaker 1: So we've talked about Shakespeare's rise and fall, how his
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dream became a nightmare. We've seen how greed, manipulation and
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deceit played a part. It's a sad story, but there's
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got to be some good in all this, Oh.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. It reminds us that real wealth isn't just about money.
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It's about strong relationships, you know, Yeah, following your passions,
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find enjoying the simple things. Okay, it's about living life
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with purpose, right.
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Speaker 1: With meaning, Yeah, no matter how much money you have, exactly,
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And that's something to hold onto. Absolutely, because the world
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can be so focused on material things. I can so
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as we dig deeper into Shakespeare's story, got to ask, Yeah,
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did win in the lottery actually make him happy? Or
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did it set off this whole chain of events that
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took him down?
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Speaker 2: That's the million dollar question, isn't it. And I think
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it's one we're going to be thinking about a lot
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as we learn more about this case. Really makes you think,
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doesn't it all that money? It's tempting, right, Oh? Yeah,
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but Shakespeare's story kind of shows there's a.
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Speaker 1: Downside besides just losing it all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Like money can't fix everything right, Sometimes it
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even makes things worse.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that.
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Speaker 2: And then all those new problems, Yeah, often made worse
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by the people around.
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Speaker 1: You, the people who come out of the woodwork when
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you win the lottery exact, claiming to be your friend.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm your advisor. I'm here to help, right, right.
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It's tough to know who's real, who's genuine. He just
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wants a piece of the action.
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Speaker 1: It's like Shakespeare's generosity that was his downfall.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. This really good quality wanting
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to help people kind of backfired.
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Speaker 1: Because not everyone's like that, right, They saw him as
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an easy target. Okay, before we go too deep on that,
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let's get back.
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Speaker 2: To this lawsuit, the Michael Ford lawsuit.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a whole other layer crazy in this story.
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Speaker 2: It's wild, right, suing someone because they won the lottery.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, claiming those millions should have been his.
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Speaker 2: What do you think was going on there?
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Speaker 1: It's mind boggling. So Ford and Shakespeare they worked together.
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Uh huh, stopped at a store on their way to Miami. Okay,
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Ford's saying he bought the tickets. Yeah, Shakespeare's saying he did.
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Speaker 2: He said, she said millions of dollars on the line.
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Speaker 1: It's not just any old argument, No.
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Speaker 2: Not at all. And this is where you know the
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legal stuff comes in burden of proof.
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Speaker 1: Okay, break that down.
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Speaker 2: So in a civil case, the person making the claim
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Ford in this case, right, he has to prove it,
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prove what that his version of events is more likely
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true than not.
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Speaker 1: So it's not like beyond a reasonable doubt like in
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a criminal trial.
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Speaker 2: A little lower bar here.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and Ford did he clear that bar?
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Speaker 2: Well? Not really?
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Speaker 1: What did he have any evidence at all?
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Speaker 2: It seems like all he had was his word, just
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his word against Shakespeare's said he bought the tickets. Yeah,
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but nothing to show for it.
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Speaker 1: No receipts, Yeah, nothing from the store, security footage, nothing,
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no witnesses.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like it.
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Speaker 1: I bet that's why the jury sided with Shakespeare.
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Speaker 2: Probably played a big part.
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Speaker 1: So Shakespeare won the lawsuit, yep, tickets for his legally
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it was over, but imagine what that did to him.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, emotionally, psychologically.
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Speaker 1: That kind of accusation enough to shake to have your
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integrity question like that.
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Speaker 2: Well you're trying to figure out how to be a
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multi millionaire. Yeah, that's got to leave a mark.
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Speaker 1: Right, And the whole thing with Ford, it just shows
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you shows you what how greed can make people do
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things they wouldn't normally do.
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Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, it's a powerful motivator, right, change his people.
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Speaker 1: So in Ford's case, whether he was lying or not, yeah,
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it shows how far someone will go for money.
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Speaker 2: Makes you wonder, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's almost like Shakespeare's money brought out the worst in
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some people, like a magnet for greed exactly. So we
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had the lawsuit, he won that, but then he ends
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up broke. Yeah, how is that even possible.
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Speaker 2: Well, that generosity we talked about, Yeah, he wasn't exactly careful.
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Speaker 1: With his money, right, Plus D D. Moore, Right, she
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didn't help, No, she didn't. So he was just giving
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money away.
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Speaker 2: It seems like it to anyone who asked, even people
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he didn't know. Yeah, it's sad, really.
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Speaker 1: I remember reading that he actually said he regretted winning.
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He said he'd have been better off broke.
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Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking, you know, to think he felt that way
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after that initial joy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that excitement of winning, I'd have been better off broke.
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It's a powerful statement. Yeah, it is like the money
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let him down.
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Speaker 2: It's like the opposite of what you'd expect. This shows
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you how important it is to have good people around you.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a solid support system.
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Speaker 2: People you can trust, who can give you good advice
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about money. That's crucial, especially with a sudden windfall like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just about having the money, it's knowing
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what to do with it.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Financial literacy important for everyone, right.
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Speaker 1: Not just lottery winners.
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Speaker 2: It's about making smart choices, planning for the future, right,
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not falling for scams and stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: Shakespeare's story is a reminder of what that wealth without
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wisdom can disappear fast.
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Speaker 1: It's a good lesson and it makes you think about
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what real wealth is exactly.
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Speaker 2: It's not just about the money, is.
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Speaker 1: It right, It's about relationships, find in your passion, enjoying
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the simple things exact, living a life with purpose no
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matter how much money you have. Well said, Okay, so
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let's talk about E. D. Moore. She's at the center
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of this whole mess.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Her role in this is well complicated.
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Speaker 2: More than that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's disturbing.
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Speaker 2: She was like a chameleon, blended right.
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Speaker 1: In gaining his trust exactly.
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Speaker 2: But underneath it all yeah, cold calculating, driven by greed control.
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Speaker 1: It's scary.
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Speaker 2: Her actions were.
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Speaker 1: Shocking, manipulating his finances.
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Speaker 2: Isolating him, and then the murder.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to believe someone could do that.
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Speaker 2: It shows you the dark side, doesn't it.
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Speaker 1: Of what people are capable.
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Speaker 2: Of when greed takes over.
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Speaker 1: It's a good reminder to be careful.
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Speaker 2: Now who you trust, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Especially with money involved.
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Speaker 2: Trust is a big deal.
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Speaker 1: Don't give it away easily.
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Speaker 2: Especially in situations like this.
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Speaker 1: Right where there's power and money involved.
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Speaker 2: So as we keep digging into this case. Yeah, the
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question is what drove her?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was her motivation?
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Speaker 2: Was it just greed or was it something else?
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Speaker 1: Maybe a combination of things, greed control, Maybe she just
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lacked empathy.
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Speaker 2: Could be. Human behavior is.
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Speaker 1: Complex, especially in a case like this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important to understand that.
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Speaker 1: So we'll keep looking at the evidence, the motives, the
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psychology of it all.
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Speaker 2: Try to make sense of this tragedy.
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Speaker 1: And for those of you listening, think about this. What
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you think drove her?
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Speaker 2: How did her actions affect others?
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Speaker 1: What lessons can we learn from this about.
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Speaker 2: Greed, about protecting our from people who might take advantage
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of us.
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Speaker 1: These are all good questions, Yeah, Court, and one does
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we try to understand this story the.
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Speaker 2: Curious case of Abraham Shakespeare.
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Speaker 1: It's easy to think, oh, if I just had money,
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all my problems would be solved, right, But Shakespeare's story, Yeah,
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it's like a reality check, it really is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, money doesn't equal happiness.
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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 2: In fact, for him, Yeah, it seemed like the money
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created more problems.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, think about it. He wins, right, he's excited.
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Speaker 2: Of course, who wouldn't be.
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Speaker 1: But then later, yeah, he's saying he regrets. The whole thing.
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Speaker 2: That's got to tell you something.
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Speaker 1: It's like the money, the attention. Yeah, it all became this,
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like this.
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Speaker 2: Burden a way he couldn't handle.
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Speaker 1: He was pulled away from his old life and then
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thrown into this new world where he couldn't tell who
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to trust. Yeah, and then you got Deedie Moore. She's
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like the worst.
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Speaker 2: Case scenario, the epitome of greed.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like she saw an opportunity and she took it,
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no hesitation.
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Speaker 2: No remorse. Her actions were cold calculated.
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Speaker 1: It makes you realize people can be ruthless when it
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comes to money.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a scary thought.
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Speaker 1: It's like a reminder to be careful absolutely who you trust,
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especially with money.
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Speaker 2: Shakespeare's story, it highlights that.
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Speaker 1: Being smart about who you let in. Yeah, not letting
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generosity make you blind to manipulation.
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Speaker 2: Right, sometimes kindness can be mistaken for weakness. Yeah, and
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this whole thing also raises the question of financial literacy.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a big one.
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Speaker 2: Like what happens when you suddenly come into a lot
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of money?
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Speaker 1: Are you ready for it?
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Speaker 2: Exactly? It's not just about winning, it's about managing it,
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knowing what to do with it, investing it wisely, protecting.
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Speaker 1: It from the d D moors of the world. Imagine
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that you win all this money, yeah, and then lose
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it all because you didn't know what you were doing.
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Speaker 2: It's the worst.
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Speaker 1: It's preventable though, right.
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Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, Financial education, having good advisors, people you can trust.
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Speaker 1: That's key. And this isn't just for a lottery winner.
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Speaker 2: No, this is for everyone.
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Speaker 1: Managing your money well.
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Speaker 2: Making smart choices.
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Speaker 1: Planning for the future, not.
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Speaker 2: Falling for those get rich quick.
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Speaker 1: Schemes, right, those are never a good idea. So as
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we wrap up our look at Abraham Shakespeare's story, what
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are the big things to remember?
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Speaker 2: Well? First, money isn't everything.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: It can help, sure, yeah, but it's not the key
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to happiness.
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Speaker 1: No, it's not a guarantee.
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Speaker 2: Money can't buy happiness.
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Speaker 1: Cliche but true.
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Speaker 2: Shakespeare's story proves it.
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Speaker 1: What else?
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Speaker 2: Be careful who you trust, Yeah, especially when it comes
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to finances.
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Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to question things.
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Speaker 2: Get advice from people you know are.
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Speaker 1: Legit right, and always trust your gut.
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Speaker 2: If something feels wrong, it probably is. And finally, remember
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that real wealth, Yeah, it's about more than dollars and cents.
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Speaker 1: It's about living a good life exactly, life with purpose,
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strong relationships.
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Speaker 2: Finding joy in everyday things.
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Speaker 1: Those are the things that matter at the end of
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the day. Yeah, well, SA, we hope this deep dive
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has given everyone something to think about.
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Speaker 2: It's a story with a lot of layers.
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Speaker 1: The good and the bad that can come with money,
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the choices we make, the people we surround ourselves with.
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Speaker 2: Keep exploring these themes.
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Speaker 1: Think about what's important to you, how you define wealth,
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how you define happiness, and.
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Speaker 2: How you can build a future you're produce.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us until next time, Keep learning, keep
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asking questions, and keep diving deep.