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Jelly Roll's Favorite New Artist, Brandon Lake · Inside Country with Wayne D

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Speaker 1: Uh, Man, I gotta tell you, it's not often an
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Speaker 1: artist comes in with hype that has already carried them
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Speaker 1: through the door. But there's some there's some hype around this.
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Speaker 2: You're feeling it, Brandon, what's.
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Speaker 1: Up, brother?
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Speaker 2: How are you? I'm doing great, man, I'm living on
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Speaker 2: a high. Just so stoked to be here, honored.
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Speaker 3: It's a really fun week and we've had already had
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Speaker 3: some amazing moments this week here in Nashville.
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk hard fought Hollelujah. It's it's a
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Speaker 1: song that I randomly heard of before the before jelly
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Speaker 1: really and yeah, and and so there's so much I
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Speaker 1: want to ask you, because I want to start with
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Speaker 1: all this started because you were a pastor at one point. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's funny like saying that. I guess technically I am
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Speaker 1: and I operate is one. I grew up in the
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Speaker 1: church and my dad's a pastor.
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Speaker 3: And uh, I fell in love with music, and you know,
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Speaker 3: started playing guitar mainly just because I wanted to, you know,
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Speaker 3: get a girlfriend. But then I as I started leading
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Speaker 3: worship at a young age, I fell in love with
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Speaker 3: like seeing people connect to these songs and ultimately connecting
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Speaker 3: with God and finding faith in music, and so yeah,
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Speaker 3: I kind of like ended up becoming like a worship leader,
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Speaker 3: a worship pastor. I grew up in the church and
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Speaker 3: I've just had the most amazing experience with church and
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Speaker 3: so it's felt the call of God to keep serving
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Speaker 3: people in that way through music. And so yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: you could say I'm a pastor and artist, songwriter, all
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Speaker 3: the things.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a very challenging question of mediology.
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be real deep, it's not gonna be
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Speaker 1: like so explain to me. No, But once you learned
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Speaker 1: that you had an ability to songwrite, play guitar, put
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Speaker 1: these things together, right, Yeah, why was it important for
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Speaker 1: you to not lose the religion part? Because as you
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Speaker 1: continue to make music, right, yeah, it's you're adding an
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Speaker 1: extra layer of challenge because not only are you trying
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Speaker 1: to create music and get yourself in front of people,
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Speaker 1: your music has a message. It's more than just here's
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Speaker 1: another beer drinking yeah yeah, right, my truck.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, which, by the.
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Speaker 1: Way, beer drinking and trucks drunks driving, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Leave those things separated.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, but but it adds an extra challenge to
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Speaker 1: getting yourself in front of a new audience.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.
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Speaker 1: You could easily leave the religion part out and just
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Speaker 1: try and make music. Yeah, why was it important for
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Speaker 1: you to be like, no, I'm gonna do this my way.
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Speaker 3: I think so many people have such a bad taste
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Speaker 3: in their mouth when it comes to religion that maybe
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Speaker 3: I have felt a responsibility to try to change that
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Speaker 3: narrative and go no, like God is good and we're
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Speaker 3: all messed up.
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Speaker 2: And we all need God.
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Speaker 3: And uh, I think you said it yourself, like my
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Speaker 3: songs carry maybe a deeper message or one that's gonna
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Speaker 3: get you through the hardest of times. And and honestly, dude,
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Speaker 3: I don't even know that if I tried to do
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Speaker 3: anything different, if I could, at just the call, it
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Speaker 3: feels too strong. And that's where I found my purpose
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Speaker 3: and I don't want to get outside of that. I
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Speaker 3: don't think there's anything wrong with some fun songs and
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Speaker 3: break up songs and all that.
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Speaker 2: I write those too, But the ones I feel.
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Speaker 3: Most called to share with the world are the ones
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Speaker 3: that are gonna help people to live another day and
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Speaker 3: know why they're living another day, that there's someone bigger
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Speaker 3: that has a plan for their life. And sometimes that's
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Speaker 3: really on the nose and it's like a churchy song,
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Speaker 3: and then sometimes it's like and hard fileluja. I think
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Speaker 3: it's a little bit more disguised. Like when Jelly first
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Speaker 3: heard the song, he's like, bro, I didn't even know
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Speaker 3: it was a Christian song. He's like, I know, I
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Speaker 3: was like singing about God, but I didn't know you're
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Speaker 3: a Christian artist. I didn't know it as a Christian song.
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Speaker 3: And for me, I was like, that's beautiful the fact
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Speaker 3: that he connected with God, but he didn't scream Christian
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Speaker 3: music because we've and I think that's what I'm super
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Speaker 3: fired up to do is maybe be one of the
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Speaker 3: ones that, hopefully, with God's help, that kind of changes
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Speaker 3: the narrative a little bit. We have this idea of
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Speaker 3: what Christian music sounds like, and I don't think it
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Speaker 3: has to sound like what it always has sounded like
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Speaker 3: and carries the same message, but I don't think it
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Speaker 3: needs to be like as soon as you hear it,
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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that's a church song.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: I want to I want to, like, I want to
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Speaker 3: be a little sneaky and catch people off guard, and
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Speaker 3: I think that's what this song's doing.
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Speaker 1: Would you rather people, as you're getting introduced to new
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Speaker 1: circles and obviously you're on mainstream radio now, would you
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Speaker 1: rather people just say, here's an artist with a great
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Speaker 1: Christian message or you're like, no, I'm a Christian artist
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Speaker 1: with a great message.
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Speaker 3: That's an interesting question.
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Speaker 2: What I would what I would love?
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Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, shut up
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Speaker 1: and listen to music, right, yeah, right, But as people
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Speaker 1: are I would say the open I think that the
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Speaker 1: door widens a little bit more.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for everyone out there, if you if you lead
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Speaker 3: with art and respected art, like I don't know, you know,
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Speaker 3: until you catch what the message is, it's like, wow,
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Speaker 3: this is just excellent. And what they won't even like
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Speaker 3: realize maybe but subconsciously is like you're actually experiencing a
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Speaker 3: gift of God. You're not like before you even catch
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Speaker 3: the message. Like I listened to secular music all the time,
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Speaker 3: and I'll hear a song that's not even necessarily about God,
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Speaker 3: but I'm like, dude, I experience God in that Like
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Speaker 3: it's beautiful, Like he made us, he made art, Like
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Speaker 3: where else do you think it came from? So I
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Speaker 3: think people can experience God even when the message isn't
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Speaker 3: necessarily like I got faith and I got you know,
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Speaker 3: I love church and so I mean, I think Coldplay
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Speaker 3: is so anointed the melodies and like, there's so many
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Speaker 3: things I listen to.
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Speaker 2: I mean, so many of Jelly's songs that I'm.
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Speaker 3: Just like godly that is, I experience God in it,
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Speaker 3: but it's not screaming like the Gospel shoving it down
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Speaker 3: people's throat. So I just want people to encounter I
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Speaker 3: would say, the spirit of Jesus in me, Like, no
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Speaker 3: matter what I do.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to collapse, they fall together in a
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Speaker 1: lot of ways. Probably the most common. It's either backstage
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Speaker 1: at a festival yeah, or managers talk yeah and it
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Speaker 1: just happens. Uh, how did the one would Jelly happen?
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Speaker 1: Like how did y'all end up connecting? Because this song
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Speaker 1: existed pre Jelly roll?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so happened to write the song felt really special
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Speaker 3: and I was like, we have to actually teased it,
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Speaker 3: put a little clip of it out and I wasn't
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Speaker 3: supposed to be putting any new music out anytime soon.
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Speaker 2: The label was like I posted it and they're like,
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Speaker 2: what are you doing, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, because people went crazy and they're like, give us
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Speaker 3: this song right now or else, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So I was like, all right, the record label are
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Speaker 4: the people, this is my this is my no the people,
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Speaker 4: and so my labels like, oh no, Like I guess
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Speaker 4: we need to put out on it because I had
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Speaker 4: just had a number one.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so we're like trying to let that ride out.
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Speaker 3: And then I teased this song and people are demanding,
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Speaker 3: demanding it, and so I'm like, y'all, I can't make
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Speaker 3: them wait too long.
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Speaker 2: So we put hard fought Hallelujah out. But it just
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Speaker 2: felt like such a special, special song.
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Speaker 3: I didn't want to care it just by myself and
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Speaker 3: just knowing the lyrics and it being about you know,
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Speaker 3: like like trying to sing Hallelujah in the midst of
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Speaker 3: you know, uh hell, you know, Like I was like, man, like,
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Speaker 3: who resonates? Who would resonate with this story? And I
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Speaker 3: just kept thinking jelly Roll, I've been seeing hearing his
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Speaker 3: story and seeing clips. And then the cool thing was
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Speaker 3: what happened was I told the team, Hey, reach out,
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Speaker 3: it's a long shot. Let's reach out and just see
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Speaker 3: and then you know, some days past and I was
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Speaker 3: watching the CMA Awards and uh, I got a met
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Speaker 3: I fell asleep. I fell asleep before his performance. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I know, bro, I got I got three boys at home.
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Speaker 3: It is a crazy house. Dogs, cows, animals everywhere.
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Speaker 2: Your boy gets tied. I'm trying to be an artist
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Speaker 2: and a farmer.
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Speaker 1: Did you just say children, dogs, cows.
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Speaker 3: Donkeys are on the way. And we've had skulches in
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Speaker 3: our house. I've had pigs in my house. It's a circus.
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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, so.
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Speaker 1: Oh we just added ten minutes of this talk. Yeah right, okay,
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Speaker 1: we'll circle back to So my brother I was literally
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Speaker 1: just staying up really just trying to see Jelly's performance.
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Speaker 3: I've just felt like an immediate, like just love and
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Speaker 3: connection to that dude, even before meeting him. And so
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Speaker 3: I wake up and my brother in law sent me
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Speaker 3: the video, the clip of just that performance with Brooks
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Speaker 3: and Dunn song I Believe. And I'm watching people in
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Speaker 3: the middle of this secular award show not expecting it.
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Speaker 3: People are starting to stand up and lift their hands
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Speaker 3: and worship.
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Speaker 2: Tears.
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Speaker 3: So many tears is running down people's faces as people
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Speaker 3: are declaring.
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Speaker 2: Like I don't have it all figured out. I don't
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Speaker 2: have it all together, but you know what I do.
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Speaker 3: I believe and I'm like this, dude, these guys just
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Speaker 3: led the world and worship and no one saw it coming.
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Speaker 3: And and like, dude, that's not easy to do, to
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Speaker 3: like take a song like that, and and like, I'm
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Speaker 3: sure a lot of people were like what the heck,
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Speaker 3: but the majority of the room was bought in, and
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Speaker 3: it just gave me all the confidence to be like,
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Speaker 3: he's the dude.
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Speaker 2: And so we reached out.
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Speaker 3: Little did I know that Jelly had already heard that
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Speaker 3: song somehow on TikTok reached out to his team. I
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Speaker 3: was like, Yo, have you heard this joint? Like this
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Speaker 3: song's crazy, and so when we asked, he was like, heck, yes,
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Speaker 3: I love that song.
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Speaker 2: Let's do it.
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Speaker 3: And then he we got on the phone like the
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Speaker 3: next day or and bro, I mean, it wasn't thirty seconds,
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Speaker 3: and I just fell in love with the dude. And
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Speaker 3: it was like I've felt like I just met my
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Speaker 3: long lost brother and it's been a real I think
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Speaker 3: the most beautiful things in life happened through real relationship,
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Speaker 3: and so it was important to both of us that
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Speaker 3: this was not a play to have a big song
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Speaker 3: or for me on my side to try to make
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Speaker 3: the song bigger. It was like I just heard his
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Speaker 3: story and I was like, I feel like this is
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Speaker 3: a song for him, and then to hear from him,
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Speaker 3: this song is actively right now changing his life. And
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Speaker 3: we were the Opry last night and he's on stage
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Speaker 3: saying tears in his eyes. This song is pulling out
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Speaker 3: something that's always been inside of him. But he's never
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Speaker 3: been this bold about and that's his walk. And he's
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Speaker 3: honest about not having it all together, which I love
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Speaker 3: and respect so much that he actually is honest about
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Speaker 3: not having it all together, whereas so many Christians are
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Speaker 3: just lying about it, saying that they think they think
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Speaker 3: they do.
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Speaker 2: The truth of this.
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Speaker 3: None of us do. And so it's really been a
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Speaker 3: beautiful friendship already, and I think we both equally have
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Speaker 3: been ministered to by this song.
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Speaker 1: Collabs happened every day, more so in country now than
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Speaker 1: I mean ever, like maybe early nineties, yeah, like the
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Speaker 1: last time collabs were this hot. Yeah, But it's it's
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Speaker 1: weird this collab because a lot of artists hop on
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Speaker 1: a song and then go all right, cool, I did
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Speaker 1: your song with the UCA later.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: It feels like he's just as passionate about the song
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Speaker 1: as you are, which you see a country music usually
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I hopped on your I hopped on
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Speaker 1: your song. Yeah, go enjoy it. This feels like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I hopped on your song and now it's ours.
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Speaker 3: Yes, And I think that speaks to how much the
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Speaker 3: message of the song is like actively like working in
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Speaker 3: his life, and he's honest about it. I didn't expect
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Speaker 3: anything more than him just hopping on the song. I
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Speaker 3: knew it'd be special, that that in itself would have
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Speaker 3: been special. And literally just as early as like yesterday,
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Speaker 3: he facetimed me and we're both in Nashville, just you know,
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Speaker 3: we got a bunch of stuff for doing this week together,
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Speaker 3: singing the song many times, singing its bar and I
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, like super stoked. But he called
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Speaker 3: me and he calls me all the time, and he's
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Speaker 3: just he's such a lover and encourager and he's like
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Speaker 3: man like, brainon, I just want to remind you, bro, like, uh,
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Speaker 3: this isn't just like a thing I did with you
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Speaker 3: and now like it's over. He's like, dude, this is
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Speaker 3: my next song. Like, I'm telling everyone that's on my team,
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Speaker 3: get behind this song. This is my next song. We're
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Speaker 3: not looking for another song on my record, push next,
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Speaker 3: Like this is the song. And dude, that I mean,
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Speaker 3: could I ask for anything more than that?
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Speaker 2: I mean?
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Speaker 3: And so to have two guys that fully believe in
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Speaker 3: it and champion it, and especially with all the power
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Speaker 3: that you know and what God's doing in his world
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Speaker 3: right now, is just crazy.
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Speaker 2: That's like, it's a that's a dream come true.
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Speaker 1: You were talking about the Opry and you just played there.
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Speaker 1: The Opry is such a hallowed ground for country music,
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Speaker 1: I mean a country music fan in general. Yeah, especially
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Speaker 1: as somebody who is gifted enough to have an excuse
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Speaker 1: to step inside the circle.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: Uh, what was that experience like, because I'd imagine you've
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Speaker 1: been to the Opry before as a fan or or
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Speaker 1: supporting somebody.
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Speaker 3: Right, Well, it's funny shout out to Dirty Myrtle, where
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Speaker 3: I spent some of my time growing up.
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Speaker 2: We had the Carolina Opry. Have you ever heard of that?
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Speaker 3: It feels way different, it is, So that's what I
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Speaker 3: was gonna say, dude, It's not the same thing. So,
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Speaker 3: but but like growing up there and like seeing that
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Speaker 3: and stuff like being.
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Speaker 2: Here, I'm like, oh, this is the real thing, you know, dude.
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Speaker 3: I was trying to find words for it all night
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Speaker 3: and still am like I'm still in a high and
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Speaker 3: I'm still like trying to process. I mean, can you
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Speaker 3: can you process things that are so beyond yourself?
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Speaker 2: Like I don't.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you can. Uh, but it was
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Speaker 3: so overwhelming and just I was just so grateful. You
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Speaker 3: feel so unworthy to like step into that circle knowing
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Speaker 3: who's been there and uh, but like what an incredible honor.
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Speaker 3: And I just tried to step in and just be like,
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Speaker 3: how do I serve this moment? Well? How do I
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Speaker 3: get people a great time and hopefully they leave better
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Speaker 3: than they walked in?
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Speaker 1: You know, knowing how fast the song is moving. Anytime
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Speaker 1: music moves fast, you have to keep up with it.
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Speaker 1: H Were you able to take the moment in because
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Speaker 1: we're all surrounded by so much life right now that
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Speaker 1: like that the moment, Yeah, it's something that you don't
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Speaker 1: really get to absorb, right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I had a few moments where I started to tear up.
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Speaker 3: You know, you're it's so hard, but cause you're really
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Speaker 3: trying to do a good job, especially my debut. You know,
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Speaker 3: it's like I don't want to botch it, you know,
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Speaker 3: and I'm like trying to remember the lyrics and you know,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I've never been more nervous, I think, in
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Speaker 3: my life. And yet there was a moment during a
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Speaker 3: song of mine called Gratitude and you kind of can't help.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's what the whole song's about, but just
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Speaker 3: sit back and reflect. And it was one that man,
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Speaker 3: so many of my fans showed up last night. I
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Speaker 3: was scared to death that I was going to be
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Speaker 3: the odd dude out you know and country but also
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Speaker 3: known for my Christian music and so like this is
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Speaker 3: a little bit more of a newer world for me,
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Speaker 3: and so I had no idea. And when they said
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Speaker 3: my name and I'm like, people went nuts.
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my people showed up, dude, And
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Speaker 2: so I.
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Speaker 3: Fell on fire Man and so I had my moment
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Speaker 3: with gratitude, and then luckily I was able to go
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Speaker 3: backstage take a few minutes to like take it in
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Speaker 3: and then come back out and I sang hard fought
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Speaker 3: Hallelujah with Jelly Roll, and because we were both in
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Speaker 3: the song, and I'm not having to carry every bit
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Speaker 3: of it. I was really able to kind of look
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Speaker 3: around and just go, what the heaven is happening right now?
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Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: I'm excited that they'd cheer loud for you, but they
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Speaker 1: do for the janitor as well. It's kind of like
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Speaker 1: they just.
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Speaker 2: I felt bad.
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Speaker 3: There was one lady last night they announced her birthday,
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Speaker 3: but I walked out at the same time, and we're
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Speaker 3: all going like.
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Speaker 2: Yo, this lady is so love happy birthday.
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Speaker 3: And then I realized the guy was still setting up
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Speaker 3: this like this woman's birthday, but yeah, I'd walked out,
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Speaker 3: and then I realized. I was like, wait, was that
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Speaker 3: for like Karen or was that for me? I don't know,
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Speaker 3: And everybody's like, dude, that was for you, bro, And
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Speaker 3: I was like, no, like it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Last thing I want to ask you is we look
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Speaker 1: for we look to be for our efforts to be
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Speaker 1: verified right, for a sign like I'm going in the
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Speaker 1: right path or I'm where I'm supposed to be. What's
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Speaker 1: been the biggest thing, not necessarily this song, but from
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Speaker 1: the first time he picked up a guitar to sitting
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Speaker 1: in front of me today what's been the biggest thing
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Speaker 1: that has helped you go? Yeah? This, Yeah, we keep going.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Last night a family came who their only reason to.
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Speaker 3: Come to Nashville is to come see me last night
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Speaker 3: because this song, Oh, this song hard Fought Hallelujah is
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Speaker 3: what's getting their family through and more particularly their son
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Speaker 3: who's eight years old and has a pretty a really
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Speaker 3: bad form of cancer. Yeah, and and they came last
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Speaker 3: night just to hear this song. It's been his battle cry,
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Speaker 3: it's been his anthem. And I got a precious video
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Speaker 3: of him this this morning from a friend when he's
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Speaker 3: got some boxing gloves on and he's in the hospital.
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Speaker 3: They've made him the face of the children's hospital in
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Speaker 3: his city. And and this song hard Fought Hallelujah has
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Speaker 3: been the song that's given him faith to keep going
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Speaker 3: and keep fighting and his family faith. And for me, dude,
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Speaker 3: I could care less about a number one. Do I
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Speaker 3: want number ones and to take over and dominate? Yes,
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Speaker 3: I'm a driven person. God made me that way. But ultimately, dude,
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Speaker 3: why we do this is for people. That's what we're
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Speaker 3: called to is relationship, and it's and it's to love
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Speaker 3: one another and to do that well. And if I
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Speaker 3: can do that through songs, and especially give an eight
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Speaker 3: year old. I have an eight year old. I can't
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Speaker 3: imagine walking through that with my own son. And to
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Speaker 3: think that a single song could be the soundtrack of
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Speaker 3: faith to keep him fighting, That's why I do it.
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Speaker 1: That's what the goose bumps are like wild right now?
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Speaker 2: Holy cow? What is that?
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Speaker 1: So that was gonna be the last question, but now
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Speaker 1: it'sond this. What does that do for you moving forward
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Speaker 1: for the next song?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what fires me up to write the next one.
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Speaker 3: I tell other songwriters and that's what I try to do,
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Speaker 3: is to not write faceless songs, Yeah, but to write
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Speaker 3: songs from a place of testimony in light ways and
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Speaker 3: then in heavy ways. And you know, it's like like
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Speaker 3: this kid, like his face will be in my head
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Speaker 3: when I'm writing the next song that is trying to
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Speaker 3: be a song that it's going to encourage people to
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Speaker 3: keep going. I've got countless stories, friends and family that
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Speaker 3: I channel in the songs that I write, and and
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Speaker 3: so honestly, every single story is what It's another log
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Speaker 3: on the fire to keep going and write another song
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Speaker 3: that'll hopefully change somebody.
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Speaker 1: That's so the next song is called log On the
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Speaker 1: Fires that.
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Speaker 2: Log on the Fires, Let's go p fire can fire
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Speaker 2: with God. I appreciate that man.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for swinging through.
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Speaker 2: Man, it's so honored to be here. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: It's beautiful, my pleasure,