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#51: Faith and Fertility: A Holistic Approach to Reproductive Health — Ann Shippy · Love Conquers Fear

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  There's so much that we can really do, and maybe this will
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  shift as we figure out how to move humanity forward with
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  abundance for all where people get out of this high beta limbic
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  state that's run from the tiger. If we can shift into a
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  restorative alpha Theta state, we actually can tune into our
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  higher selves, have biology where we're doing repair in our
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  bodies better. That could be an amazing shift
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  for humanity if you're not worried about things that most
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  people worried about. Most people are staying in this
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  constant state of worry, whether they realize it or not,
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  especially if they watch the news.
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  There's a zillion things we can all be worrying about, and if
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  we're focusing our attention there rather than on what we
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  love, what we want to contribute, how we want to make
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  the world better, it's going to be really challenging to make
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  this shift that we can make here in the next decade.
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  Welcome back everybody to the Love Conquers Fear podcast.
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  I just finished Michael Pollan's new book, A World Appears.
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  I told you I was reading it and really enjoying it, and it has a
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  lot of parallels with Anika Harris's book Lights On that I
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  read last year. She's married to Sam Harris and
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  is really steeped in science and her book is a wandering through
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  all the different theories of consciousness.
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  And it's fun to to hear her wander through that.
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  And it actually concludes with her belief, after all, that
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  wandering, that consciousness is a fundamental property of the
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  universe, which has all types of implications.
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  As I mentioned on the podcast many times before, 2025 was a
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  real awakening for consciousness.
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  We had Dan Brown's new book come out, The Secret of Secrets,
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  which is all about non local consciousness.
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  We had the dilepsy tapes come out with season 2, which is
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  fantastic. You know, at one point that was
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  more popular than the Joe Rogan podcast.
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  It's now being turned into a Netflix series.
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  I believe it's Netflix at least, but they were talking about that
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  on the podcast. And and then of course, Anika
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  Harris's book. And then this year started out
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  with Michael Pollan's new book coming out.
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  And I can tell you it's different than Annika Harris's
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  in a couple of ways. First of all, the similarities,
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  it starts out very science based and it goes very deep on the
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  evidence of, you know, plant based consciousness and, and how
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  plants move, especially when you really speed up the time lapse
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  to actually see how they're moving and you know, some type
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  of speed like us. And so it really gives you the
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  sense that there's some form of consciousness there.
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  And it goes deep into all different types of science
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  around consciousness and cells and the electromagnetic field
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  that we radiate and all all different types of, you know,
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  fun things I can't cover here in a short intro.
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  But then as it goes into different areas of the book and
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  concludes with a deep discussion on self and the nature of self
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  and the difference between our ego and the self or the
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  observer, it gets more metaphysical.
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  And throughout the book, he weaves in a lot around
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  psychedelics too, which is interesting because his last
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  book was called How to Change Your Mind.
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  I've mentioned that that Netflix documentary and the book is some
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  of my favorites, which is a pretty deep exploration around
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  psychedelics and and the transformation that can be had
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  with that for some people. But it's interesting because in
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  a world of peers, Michael Pollan, when he's talking with a
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  lot of these scientists who have been exploring the nature of
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  consciousness and coming up with their own theories, they have
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  been also using psychedelics from time to time to try to
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  grasp at the nature of consciousness itself.
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  And some of this, some of them even with that still cling on to
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  kind of a materialist world view that the hard problem of
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  consciousness is just that, you know, something magically
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  happened in the brain and with natural selection to produce
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  consciousness and, and that that that's it kind of end of story.
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  And we're still figuring out exactly how that happened.
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  But some of them actually through their psychedelic
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  journeys and the book starts to wrap up this way, then start to
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  shift. Even though they were hardcore
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  scientist, you know, clinging on to materialism, they start to
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  shift and start to talk about the fact that now they believe
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  that, yes, consciousness is a fundamental property of the
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  universe. And, and Michael Pollan kind of
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  concludes the book with his belief.
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  He's kind of hinting at it. You know, he doesn't as firmly
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  declare it as Anika Harris that he must admit that it probably
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  is this fundamental property of the universe.
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  So it's interesting, meandering, and he's got a great style.
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  If you, if you've read any of his books or watched him on
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  Netflix, you know, you'll, you'll either agree or disagree
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  with me on that. But I really like his style and
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  his humility as he walks through this.
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  But it concludes, you know, in a very similar way to Annika
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  Harris's book, which, you know, kind of made me chuckle as I was
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  reading it. There's a lot of joy in the book
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  and a lot of humility. You know, he also concludes it
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  with, I think that I am now even more confused about what
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  consciousness is versus when he started the journey himself.
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  And it was about a five year journey for him in in writing
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  the book. I'm also happy to report that
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  today as I'm recording, this is a really important day for for
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  me as an author. I just handed over the final,
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  final edits for my third book, my most important work today,
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  which is called Love Conquers Fear.
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  The name of this podcast that the book has the subtitle of
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  Humanity, AI and the Age of Abundance for All.
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  So it feels really good to get to the point where the book now
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  is with the publisher. It's about to be turned into
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  APDF where I can deliver that to friends.
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  Every guest that's been on this podcast, I'm going to deliver it
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  to you, including the one you're going to see today.
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  And they're going to get this advanced reader's copy.
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  And you know, really, it's going to be incredible to start
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  getting the feedback. I mean, back through that really
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  tedious process of editing. Oh my gosh, it is always
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  tedious. It's my third book.
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  It is always tedious to go through that.
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  But it also is a lot of lot of joy too, because you reread your
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  work now after flowing with it and you know, it gives you that
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  reader's perspective. And this really is the best work
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  that I've ever put out. And I am hoping that it really
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  helps humanity have a heart shift.
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  We need a heart shift as we're in this exponential to
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  exponential curves. And we'll be digging into that
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  today. But yeah, I'm really, really
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  excited to get that handed off. And and just again, if you are
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  interested, do more good. The publisher episode 41 was
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  with Jay Wilkinson, who's the founder of that.
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  And you can hear details about the conference that he's
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  hosting. It's actually his 7th Do More
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  good conference. And the theme for this year's is
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  Love Conquers Fear. Together We Rise.
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  And that's May 27th through 29th in Omaha.
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  So if you'd like to join me and Jay and just amazing leaders
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  that we talked about on that episode, please do.
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  That'll be the first time that I'm really publicly speaking an
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  event about the book. I'm also running a workshop on
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  how to overcome fear. And this the first time I'm
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  doing that. I'm not really, you know, kind
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  of turning it into a workshop type guy.
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  I'm an, I'm an entrepreneur through and through and an
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  investor in startups, but I thought this would be a really
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  good opportunity to explore that with people.
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  And I've done a lot of internal work and so sharing that, but
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  also learning from others how how they've done that and become
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  better leaders and more love forward leaders to bring out the
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  best in themselves and their team members.
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  So today I'm really, really excited to have Doctor Anne
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  Schiffian, and it's so good to be here with you.
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  Good to be here with you. Yeah, this has been a while in
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  the making. You came out with this, with
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  this beautiful book, The Preconception Revolution and
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  wish I had had this book when we got pregnant, although we did,
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  we did really. We, you know, one thing you
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  don't know about me is Deborah and I have been married almost
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  30 years. It'll be 30 years on June 9th.
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  Happy anniversary. Thank you.
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  You know, we waited eight years to have kids.
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  So we we had we had a long marriage to we always knew we
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  were going to have kids, but we really were emotionally and
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  physically prepared when we did. So I think that that we did some
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  of the things that you're recommending in here.
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  This is much more comprehensive and I wish we had had this book
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  at the time. It's what I wish I had had too.
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  But yeah, I really appreciate you putting this out in the
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  world. And a big shout out to to Jason
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  and Jessica Karp, who hosted you for the book launch and you just
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  gave a great speech that night. And and I asked you if you'd be
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  on the podcast and here we are. I'm appreciative of our
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  friendship. I'm.
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  Very appreciative and it's so nice to get to to know you
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  better through these different modalities.
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  Yeah, you bet. Yeah, So.
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  So I mean, I would love to hear about just your journey, you
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  know, from I mean, you've got a you've got a really interesting
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  journey on the path to becoming a doctor.
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  Very unusual path for it path that I could relate to, although
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  I've never never went into the doctor side of it.
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  That that the first part of your career arc.
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  And, and I'm really curious to just to just dive into like, why
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  is this your kind of life's work now?
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  Yeah. So I really hadn't intended to
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  become a doctor. I love math and science.
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  And so I went into chemical engineering and then ended up
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  doing manufacturing engineering for IBM and got to do amazing
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  projects like get rid of chlorofluorocarbons ahead of the
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  mandate and our cleaning process.
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  And I just really thought I was going to the retiring from from
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  IBM at some point and we're going.
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  To be a lifer. It was going to be a lifer.
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  It was going to get my watch, you know, and I loved it.
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  Like the culture was great for me there where we had a lot of
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  autonomy and, and really able to do what we thought was right and
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  build great teams and really, really enjoyed it.
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  But then I went on vacation and came back sick and couldn't get
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  the doctors to help me figure out what I needed to do to get
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  better. I was like, I was fine before I
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  went on vacation and now I can't keep any weight on and just was
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  miserable in my body. And the word on the street at
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  the time was that I had cancer because I looked so sick.
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  And so I had to piece together what I needed to do to heal by
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  reading books and applying different diets, seeing a
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  nutritionist, an acupuncturist, this immunologist 2 hours away.
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  Like I just followed all these threads to finally figure out
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  what was going on with me and to help my body to heal.
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  And then once I was better, I was like, wow, this medical
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  system is so broken that even though it ruled out a whole
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  bunch of things that I didn't have, it didn't help me figure
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  out what I needed to do to be well.
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  And the band aids that I was offered weren't really even very
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  good. So I woke up in the middle of
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  the night one night. I was like, Oh my God, I'm going
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  to go to medical school so I can do medicine differently.
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  And I did. I started to medical school when
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  I was 32 and got to get that foundation that I felt like I
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  needed to be able to do medicine differently.
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  And I had had a little bit of running with infertility.
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  I didn't know that that was really a sign that something was
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  off in my body even before I went on vacation and and got
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  sick. But I was very fortunate to be
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  able to have a baby in Med school and one in residency at
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  34 and 38. Yeah.
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  Awesome. Yeah.
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  So then when I finished residency, there was no clear
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  path for anything to do to add the integrative medicine
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  alternative ways of thinking. So I went into standard internal
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  medicine practice, seeing 20 patients a day, 10 to 30 minutes
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  per patient, just click, click through, know what prescription
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  I was going to write within 5 minutes of seeing them
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  practically. And so I was off my path, but
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  fortunately my body helped me again to get on my path and I
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  developed a couple of autoimmune disorders and that was right
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  around the time that functional medicine was even able to be
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  found. And so I went and did a
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  functional medicine training and worked with another Doctor Who
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  had did some training and reverse my autoimmune diseases.
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  And that gave me the courage to stop doing traditional internal
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  medicine, get off the insurance plans and start my own practice
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  so that I could spend time with my patients and practice
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  medicine the way that I really wanted to.
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  And, and how would you describe like what you provide today as a
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  doctor to your patients, like kind of the holistic practice
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  Because it's, because it's really neat.
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  It's like it's, it really is like the future you're you're
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  in. In my opinion, you're kind of
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  like a window into what the future of healthcare should be
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  like. Thank you, that means so much.
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  I've got a lot of friends that really, really think so highly
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  of you and you've really changed your life.
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  Yeah, I'm so I'm so lucky to get to to do what I do.
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  I get to use my chemical engineering brain, use the
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  latest technology and testing and then really delve into
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  what's going on from a standpoint of genetics,
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  epigenetics, how the genes are being dialed up and dialed down.
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  Look for environmental toxins, study their microbiome.
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  You know, the organisms in the body that really run our run us
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  a lot of times the the mitochondria.
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  I just, there's so much technology now that we can dig
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  in deeper than what the traditional doctors are even
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  familiar with, being able to test and then help my patients
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  find the most holistic way possible to address the things
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  that we find and then use the high tech things when it makes
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  sense. You know, sometimes we'll do
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  stem cells, we'll do peptides, we'll use medications when it
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  makes sense. So it's really getting to
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  combine the best of both worlds. And then sometimes there's a
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  metaphysical component to the visit.
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  So I'm highly intuitive and sometimes I'll get, I'll hear or
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  see little messages that help to guide me and the either, you
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  know, which of these tests and things to run or what a
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  particular solution would be. But sometimes there's something
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  emotional or spiritual going on that we can delve into because
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  the body, the mind, the spirit are not separate.
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  It gets, they each inform each other.
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  So like my new, one of my new patients this week has been, and
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  she's had a really, really difficult life from a standpoint
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  of, you know, some bad things that happened to her in
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  childhood and then a marriage that's not very good.
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  And then her husband has some PTSD after being in the military
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  and going into some of those really horrible places that are
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  really hard for humans to experience.
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  And, and so, you know, when we were first talking, I was
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  hearing what was going on, I was like, why are you still like, in
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  my mind, I'm like, why are you still in this marriage?
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  Because it's definitely part of what's making you sick because
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  you're, you're not feeling safe. And then as we explored it,
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  there's some good reasons why she's still there and, and some
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  things that she can explore on the, on the spiritual side of
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  things. And then, you know, maybe some
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  deeper understanding of what's going on with him, right, right
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  from a, you know, trauma and spiritual standpoint, because
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  then I like underneath, like after I heard about the initial
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  story, I could actually feel there's a deep love that brings
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  them together. And so when people come in with
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  these dilemmas and like, it's like, right, what they pop on
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  the table, like in the first of it, it wasn't her list of
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  physical things that really came to the surface for her to tell
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  me about. It was this emotional, spiritual
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  sign. Yeah.
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  It's really fascinating. Yeah, I mean, that's the part
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  where I just think that a lot of doctors won't even go there,
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  right? I mean, you know, I had to have
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  an Alexander on the podcast, the author Proof of Heaven.
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  He was on episode 46 and, you know, he had largely lost his
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  faith or spirituality until he went into a coma and had a near
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  death experience that was completely transcendent and
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  wrote, you know, maybe the most important book on on that topic.
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  And, you know, he it was it was just so improbable because it
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  was for him it was E coli powered meningitis.
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  And he was a Harvard trained, you know, part of the Harvard
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  Medical School faculty neurosurgeon for a long time.
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  Like so he, you know, incredibly smart individual and and you
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  know, he he would have patients coming back from near death
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  experiences and saying, I've I've seen this or I've seen
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  that. And he just thought he just kind
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  of wrote it off as they were hallucinating or something until
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  it happened to him and he called it the ultra real.
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  So I think that it's an important part of the equation
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  of holistic health because we're not just this physical body.
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  There's, there's more, there's more going on in terms of this
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  reality. And, and I love the fact in in
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  your book that you also touch on spiritual health as well in
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  terms of how couples should get get to that point with each
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  other to then be able to conceive.
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  I think there's a process of really inviting the soul.
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  It's going to join your family in and I think when there's a
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  deep connection between the couple and they're very
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  intentional about the things that they want to be intentional
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  about, I just provide some possibilities of the things for
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  them to be intentional about that it it kind of helps the
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  soul come slide in. So it's it and I, you know, the
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  more I start talking about this and the more I'm sharing about
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  this, it feels like it make it just accelerates the how easy
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  people are getting pregnant. It's really fascinating, right?
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  Right. Yeah, Yeah, I, I mean, a lot of
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  lot of spiritual teachers have told me that that a lot of
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  disease is actually caused by by a lack of spiritual health more
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  than more than anything specifically going on in the
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  body. And so I think that's
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  fascinating. I mean, I don't know exactly how
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  that that that works, right and how we decode that.
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  But one of the things that I'm excited about is this
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  exponential by exponential curve that we're in with AI, quantum
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  computing, robotics, brain, computer interfaces, you know,
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  all simultaneously accelerating is it's going to let us decode
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  more and more about how to provide holistic healthcare.
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  Because we're going to, we're going to know more of what's
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  going on versus right now. We're probably going to look
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  back on this moment in 2026, you know, 10 years from now in 2036
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  as we're in the stone ages of sorts.
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  Yeah, yeah, it really is the access to information and you
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  know somebody who has lots of questions and curious about
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  things all the time and speeds up how quickly I can find the
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  answers. Of course, you also, you always
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  have to go back and double check the answers, But it's, it's so
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  fun to be able to play and well, it's it, it'll be interesting to
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  see what you think with AI coming.
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  Like, I still think there's this human curiosity that's such an
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  important ingredient to make the most out of AI, right?
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  Yeah, yeah. It's, it's just like any
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  technology. It's, it's how we use it which
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  really matters a lot and the type of intentionality we have.
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  And that's been true since the discovery of fire.
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  We could use it to warm our food, you know, heat our caves,
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  et cetera, or we could use it to do really bad things with it,
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  you know, in terms of, in terms of war and, and, you know, all
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  types of all types of horrible things that we only want to kind
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  of imagine. And you know, of course,
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  humanity used it for both, but you look at the arc of history
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  and primarily we used it for good.
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  And that's, you know, a with with AI, it's going to be such
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  an exponential curve. You know, we're already in it.
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  And seeing from week to week how much of changes that humanity's
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  going to face a collective choice where we have to shift
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  our hearts to ultimately embrace using it to create abundance for
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  everyone on this planet. And that collective shift is
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  going to be the most fateful decision we've ever had in in
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  humanity. And so that's why I'm doing this
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  project. You know, this is my soul song.
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  This is my love letter to humanity.
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  That's beautiful. And just bringing that awareness
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  that we are as a collective going to be making some
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  important decisions. Yeah, Yeah.
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  Because I think a lot of people, you know, a lot of people are
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  just kind of going on day-to-day, not really seeing
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  that there is a, there are different paths that we could
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  take. Right, Yeah, Yeah.
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  Well, it's, it's conversations like these and and another guest
• 23:52
  I've had on like really talking about that, just taking, taking
• 23:56
  taking steps towards that so that we can be a part of the
• 24:00
  light and part of the collective shift.
• 24:02
  I mean, I'm curious if you, if you look back though, was there
• 24:07
  like a catalyst in your life outside of your own experience,
• 24:11
  your own experience that's important catalyst.
• 24:14
  I don't want to minimize that like the, the, the fact that
• 24:18
  you're really trying to heal yourself.
• 24:20
  But when you look back at at your life today, this lifetime,
• 24:25
  I'll say, you know, what was what?
• 24:29
  What were some of those important sparks you think that
• 24:32
  led to you doing what you're doing today?
• 24:34
  You know, as parents, we, we have these ongoing things that
• 24:38
  we want our children to really be instilled with and, and to
• 24:46
  truly know that they're loved. So there are a couple of
• 24:51
  messages from my father when he talked about ESP.
• 25:01
  Extrasensory perception and. Very telepathy tapes.
• 25:08
  Way out of the and there being really any science or any real
• 25:12
  data around it. And so he would tell us that we
• 25:16
  could communicate with him beyond time space and that's
• 25:21
  kind of held true. Like he so that I think just
• 25:24
  that belief that that that's possible and actually seeing
• 25:30
  evidence of it with my family was super informative.
• 25:35
  And so now that the world seems to be going more woo.
• 25:42
  Even when I started practicing functional medicine 20 years
• 25:45
  ago, that woo side was kind of under the under the covers like
• 25:53
  not I didn't really want to reveal that part of myself.
• 25:58
  And then there was a message about always being the best that
• 26:02
  I can be like always doing my best.
• 26:05
  And so I think that's what I thought everybody did.
• 26:11
  Like I thought, I think every. And that is the belief that I
• 26:14
  think most people are doing the best that they can with what
• 26:17
  they have at hand at the moment. And sometimes we have more
• 26:21
  resources than others. Like, you know, they're none of
• 26:25
  us are perfect and we sometimes we run out of resources and yell
• 26:28
  at our children or run the red light or whatever it is that.
• 26:33
  Oh yeah. Oh, I trust me.
• 26:34
  I have plenty of parenting regrets exactly there.
• 26:38
  There are times where I've not been my best self, but overall I
• 26:42
  think we've done a pretty good job.
• 26:44
  They've turned out pretty well. They know they're left.
• 26:46
  Yeah, yeah, for sure. And they have that that they
• 26:49
  found their own inner resources. So I think, I think, and then my
• 26:54
  mother just education learning, helping me to figure out that I
• 26:58
  was smart, even though I'm a very non traditional learner
• 27:06
  when I I so I always just wanted to do something that would make
• 27:11
  a difference. And so everything from a dream
• 27:16
  of being a high school math teacher because I thought that
• 27:19
  was, you know, an important noble thing to do to teach
• 27:22
  children, which I still really feel that way.
• 27:26
  You know, also getting these windows into human suffering and
• 27:34
  feeling the weight of that and really wanting to find ways to
• 27:40
  reduce that human suffering. So, you know, there were points
• 27:46
  in Med school and residency that I still feel the reverberation
• 27:52
  of the children with the near drowning experiences.
• 27:57
  The, oh gosh, this is popping up in my awareness right now.
• 28:02
  The little baby that was picked up by the dog and carried, you
• 28:06
  know, came in with it being like a newborn that had just gone
• 28:10
  home had, you know, very serious wounds from the dog not
• 28:15
  understanding the baby coming home and to the children with
• 28:20
  the that have been horribly abused to death, like losing
• 28:28
  someone you love so deeply. So it's this immersion into
• 28:34
  humanity, and even with all of that pain and suffering, there's
• 28:43
  this thing that overrides that, and that's the love.
• 28:49
  It wouldn't be so painful to me to see these things happening to
• 28:53
  people if I didn't already have some love for them.
• 28:56
  And then just the way that in these, especially in these hard
• 29:03
  situations, people really show up for each other.
• 29:05
  It's extraordinary. 1 humans will do for each other.
• 29:10
  Absolutely. That gives me hope.
• 29:12
  I I think that's kind of like where you're going.
• 29:15
  With it's exactly where I'm going with this.
• 29:17
  Yeah, yeah. It's this deep love for all of
• 29:20
  humanity and this deep calling to do everything I can in this
• 29:27
  lifetime to help humanity have that that heart shift so that we
• 29:33
  make it to the other side. And the way I look at it is that
• 29:39
  whether you look at it as metaphorical or mystical or
• 29:44
  both, it's that merger of heaven and earth.
• 29:48
  You know, it's this lifetime where we can create that.
• 29:50
  And we have this capacity for infinite love that we can bring
• 29:56
  out. You know when we lead from the
• 29:58
  heart, it's the most beautiful way to lead.
• 30:01
  So that's been something that is so interesting because, you
• 30:06
  know, I think a lot of times in families, there's the sibling
• 30:10
  rivalry and feeling like there's a limited amount of love from
• 30:14
  the parents. So they got to get their peace,
• 30:16
  right? But now as a parent, I feel
• 30:20
  like, Oh my gosh, I have an infinite amount of love for both
• 30:23
  of my children. There's there's no competition
• 30:25
  because I, I have the capacity to create an infinite amount of
• 30:33
  love, which I think is such an amazing aspect of humans, right?
• 30:38
  Like we are the creators of a frequency that has an infinite
• 30:43
  number of flavors. Like the love that I have for
• 30:46
  this child is a little different than this child versus, you
• 30:51
  know, loving to go on vacation. What all the different things
• 30:56
  that we love. There's, I do think there's a
• 30:59
  frequency that we're creating when we experience that emotion.
• 31:05
  Oh, for sure. I think, I think it's a, it's
• 31:08
  the highest vibratory feel in the universe.
• 31:11
  And we know whether it's a meditation, psychedelic
• 31:14
  journeys, whether it's a near death experience, that, that
• 31:19
  that is the actual reality behind the veil that we are all
• 31:24
  deeply loved and we're rooted in this spiritual reality that is,
• 31:31
  that is the definition of love. And I think we get the concept
• 31:35
  of love from God or the universe or consciousness or the divine
• 31:40
  or whatever you want to call that.
• 31:41
  You know, I, I always, I always, always use the word God, but I
• 31:45
  always tell people like, if you're triggered by that, use
• 31:47
  whatever word you want, but let's be thankful that that's
• 31:51
  the actual reality. And then we're here in this
• 31:55
  world of form, this earth school, you know, constantly
• 32:00
  challenged. And I think the reason we're
• 32:04
  constantly challenged is to allow our souls to grow.
• 32:08
  And that's, I mean, that's been the deep dive on so many books I
• 32:12
  read and, and so, so much ancient spiritual text as well.
• 32:15
  And do you feel like as we grow that capacity to create love,
• 32:20
  that dial gets amped up? I feel that way too.
• 32:24
  Yeah, that's, I mean, it's, you know, there's a lot of ways that
• 32:28
  that people refer to this, including the consciousness
• 32:31
  awakening. But yes, it is, it is to create
• 32:35
  that frequency across Earth where we wake up, you know, from
• 32:42
  from this kind of sleepwalk and say, let's choose that and, you
• 32:49
  know, choose the the spiritual reality here on Earth.
• 32:52
  I mean, I had a guest on who interestingly laugh was a
• 32:57
  atheist, you know, self self declared atheist.
• 33:01
  But really great guy, amazing author Jamie Metzel, who was on
• 33:06
  episode 19 of the podcast. And he's he he made a very
• 33:12
  compelling point that I'll never forget.
• 33:15
  And his books outline this point, this, this point as well
• 33:18
  as he's like Brett, We already have abundance today.
• 33:22
  It's just not distributed. Yeah.
• 33:25
  Oh, that's such a good. Point isn't it such a good point
• 33:27
  because because like we have all the food we need to feed the
• 33:31
  planet actually today it's just not distributed but another way
• 33:36
  to think about that is that the cost of distribution are going
• 33:41
  to plummet and the cost of production are going to plummet
• 33:44
  as we go through this technological curve it's.
• 33:46
  Interesting because as you say that you know what this window
• 33:51
  that I get into humanity through my patients, right?
• 33:56
  Like what the conversations that can be had behind closed doors
• 34:00
  that are safe. Self love is such an issue.
• 34:03
  Like sometimes people will come in where everything looks like
• 34:07
  there's total abundance in their life.
• 34:09
  You know, the perfect family set up, the perfect job, driving the
• 34:13
  right car, all the abundance, like it looks on the surface
• 34:16
  like everything is there. But somehow that self love isn't
• 34:22
  coming in. And I think it's that is part of
• 34:27
  what causes people to hoard and to not share is if they don't
• 34:31
  really feel the love pouring into them.
• 34:35
  So I have this theory. Yeah, I'd love to hear it.
• 34:40
  Yeah. I, I believe that we have love
• 34:44
  receptors. And so, you know, part of how in
• 34:48
  biology, part of how we know that we've got hormones or other
• 34:53
  chemical messages are in our body is that they have to hit
• 34:56
  the horn, hit the receptor, and then inform the cell that the
• 35:02
  chemical or the hormone is there.
• 35:04
  And then that drives the whole process with the DNA making
• 35:10
  things. And so my theory is that in the
• 35:15
  metaphysical we have love receptors, but that they can be
• 35:20
  damaged or they can be closed. And so then sometimes even, you
• 35:26
  know, you love your kids so much that they can't even feel that
• 35:29
  they're going through whatever puberty or whatever, they're
• 35:32
  good self doubt, whatever they're going through.
• 35:35
  And they're like, there's this enormous amount of love that
• 35:38
  flows to them, but they can't even feel it.
• 35:39
  And I think because that's because something's happened in
• 35:42
  the metaphysical that they've just shut it down.
• 35:46
  And then I have a theory. I love this.
• 35:49
  You know this is great. I, you know, sometimes I don't,
• 35:53
  I don't go reading the other the other books on these topics
• 35:56
  because I wanted to see what flows in through me, but I
• 36:00
  should probably read and see if anybody else has these ideas
• 36:03
  too. Then the other idea is that the
• 36:08
  Love Actually hits the DNA and then gets amplified and that
• 36:14
  gets actually broadcast out into the universe.
• 36:18
  That's part of why humanity is actually important in existence
• 36:23
  is because there's something that's happening in the fields
• 36:29
  that we probably don't even have sensors for.
• 36:32
  That's kind of like right at the back can have pick up different
• 36:36
  senses than what we can that that we play some kind of
• 36:40
  important role in kind of fueling the materials, the
• 36:47
  plasma or whatever it is that we're in in the gustas to make
• 36:52
  things possible. And, you know, a lot of us are
• 36:55
  having these awarenesses around other energies that are actually
• 37:04
  coming to help humanity through this transition because we play
• 37:09
  some role of of with this magical thing called love.
• 37:17
  Yeah, yeah. Well, I completely believe in
• 37:21
  what you're saying. You know, my heart, like really
• 37:25
  lights up as you're saying it. And my soul, you know, and I
• 37:30
  know it's true. We don't have the scientific
• 37:34
  instrumentation necessarily to prove that, but yeah.
• 37:38
  Yeah. But I mean, you know, you, you,
• 37:41
  you can see us grasping out. I mean, you.
• 37:43
  You've probably seen Inner Worlds, Outer Worlds, the
• 37:45
  documentary I. Haven't seen.
• 37:47
  It that was that was one that Jason Parp turned me on to and
• 37:51
  at the beginning of you know, my Soul Quest, which started in
• 37:54
  Kerala, India at the end of 2024.
• 37:59
  Gosh, it's only a 2 hour long. Eating along so fast Just 2024.
• 38:02
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've read over 60 books since
• 38:05
  then. But it, you know, I, I watched
• 38:08
  it there and it's only two hours long, but I took, it took me 6
• 38:13
  hours because I just kept on stopping.
• 38:16
  And I was like, yes, that's the answer.
• 38:18
  And it really brought science and spirituality together in a
• 38:22
  beautiful way. And it shows you, you know, it
• 38:24
  shows you how matter reacts to love.
• 38:27
  And we know, you know, things like if you talk to plants in a
• 38:33
  loving way versus if you yell at them and, you know, amplify
• 38:38
  fear, that fear is a contractor and love is an opener.
• 38:43
  And you can see actually how it shapes matter.
• 38:47
  You know, there's there's all types of water experiments and
• 38:49
  all types of yeah, exactly what? What's his name again?
• 38:53
  I think in Moto something, yeah. That yeah I've watched his
• 38:56
  videos on YouTube and it's fascinating right like to see
• 38:59
  actually how it shapes matter it'd.
• 39:01
  Be interesting for you to interview Constantine Karatkov.
• 39:04
  I don't. Yeah, that that's, that's a good
• 39:07
  point. Yeah, yeah, he's done some
• 39:09
  interesting during. We could actually ask him if he
• 39:13
  can measure some of these things because I think he's in that
• 39:17
  quantum physics realm. Here's the really cool thing is
• 39:20
  like, as we get better and better about understanding, you
• 39:25
  know, quantum physics, which there still is no great
• 39:28
  reconciliation between quantum physics and and, and classical
• 39:32
  science or physics. And, you know, actually Michael
• 39:37
  Pollan's new book A World appears, dives deep into that.
• 39:40
  It seems like every book on consciousness dives deep into
• 39:43
  that. And we know through Higgs boson,
• 39:46
  you know, and the work at CERN that there is a field.
• 39:49
  We know that quantum entanglement is real.
• 39:52
  Quantum computing doesn't work without it.
• 39:55
  And I do think that the actual reality we're in is one that is.
• 40:00
  Deeply encoded with love, but we're having to constantly
• 40:04
  rediscover that. And we are vessels for the
• 40:10
  divine and we have our free will that, but we're, we're, we're
• 40:15
  here to constantly rediscover that.
• 40:17
  And the thing that excites me the most about this exponential
• 40:21
  of exponential curves that we're in.
• 40:22
  And there's lots of things that that, that are potential
• 40:25
  problems, right for us to overcome.
• 40:27
  And some very real problems is that it's going to allow us to
• 40:31
  decode that. And while talk about the
• 40:35
  ultimate bio hack, like if we actually got to the point in our
• 40:39
  lifetime where the soul and the physical vessel become really
• 40:45
  aligned and cohere and we can manifest more love, that's the
• 40:51
  that's the type of awakening that humanity needs.
• 40:54
  Because when someone has an awakening, whether it's through,
• 40:58
  you know, psychedelics or near death experiences or, or, you
• 41:02
  know, just a spontaneous awakening.
• 41:03
  I had, I had an amazing woman on that's in health tech actually,
• 41:09
  I just found out like literally right before you came over that
• 41:14
  her company was just acquired. She's a very good friend.
• 41:16
  She was on episode 31. Her name's Pariah Beam,
• 41:20
  originally from Turkey and has just out of fantastic, you know,
• 41:25
  academic career here and then and then, you know,
• 41:29
  entrepreneurial career, you know, this, this, this, this,
• 41:32
  this reality we're in and decoding it and figuring out how
• 41:36
  to work in it. It's going to lead us, I think,
• 41:40
  to a place where we're going to be able to improve outcomes in
• 41:43
  ways that we can't even imagine today because we just know so
• 41:49
  little. You know, we we don't know what
• 41:51
  96% of the universe is even made of.
• 41:54
  You know, we'll call it dark energy and dark matter.
• 41:56
  You know, we have a mutual friend with Mark Gover who he
• 41:59
  was on episode 2, one of my favorite authors.
• 42:03
  And I'm just like still so happy that he moved here.
• 42:06
  I joke, I joked with him when I first met him, I didn't know him
• 42:10
  at all. I cold reached out to him
• 42:12
  because his books moved me so much and and I was like, you
• 42:16
  know, I'm going to predict that you're probably going to move to
• 42:18
  Austin and he sure did. But I met him as he was writing
• 42:21
  his first book and got to the and write one of his
• 42:25
  endorsements so. Oh, that's cool.
• 42:27
  Actually, I I didn't know that. That's really cool.
• 42:30
  So so literally for an end tabs, I don't think and you were.
• 42:33
  The one of the first I've met him right as the book was going
• 42:36
  to be coming out and we just had, we just clicked, you know,
• 42:39
  I loved it that he was writing a book and was so inspired by it.
• 42:42
  I was like, yes, I'm happy to. You know, very fun.
• 42:45
  Mark Gober moment. I hosted dinner for Evan
• 42:49
  Alexander here. They had never met in person.
• 42:51
  Oh, my gosh. And so I actually recorded Mark
• 42:55
  meeting him in person for the first time to share a video with
• 42:58
  them. And it was just so cool because,
• 43:01
  you know, Evan is like the lead quote on his first two books,
• 43:05
  the lead endorser. Yeah.
• 43:08
  So it was so you. Are such a kind of cool.
• 43:10
  Well, it's just such a beautiful moment, you know, Honestly, I'm
• 43:13
  just, I mean that that type of moment to me just that was an
• 43:17
  embodiment of, of, of love seeing, seeing them finally
• 43:21
  together in person was really, really cool.
• 43:24
  Before we dive into to the book, I'm curious if there's some
• 43:29
  health tips that you would give give us in mass.
• 43:34
  You know, I asked, I asked Ben, Ben Greenfield the same
• 43:38
  question. You know, he's a, he's a pretty
• 43:40
  well known biohacker and a good friend.
• 43:45
  And you know, it's kind of an unfair question because there's
• 43:48
  so many places you could go with that.
• 43:50
  And I know that we're all different, but I'm just curious,
• 43:52
  like, what are you most excited about?
• 43:55
  Like it is it peptides or is it what are what are the things
• 43:58
  that you're seeing where you're like, oh, this is different and
• 44:02
  you're on the vanguard of what most people are going to be
• 44:06
  thinking about, you know, 5 to 10 years.
• 44:08
  So I'm just curious, like the Ann Shippy opinion.
• 44:12
  You know, I love all the advanced tech, I love stem
• 44:17
  cells, I love the peptides, but you know what, all of it works
• 44:23
  better when you lay a really solid foundation.
• 44:27
  So what I see is people want these, you know, quick fixes or
• 44:32
  things that are on the leading edge.
• 44:36
  It's a very American question to ask.
• 44:38
  But it all works the best if you really have a solid foundation.
• 44:43
  So for me, if everything comes back to eating super clean.
• 44:47
  So I love a paleo diet, the hunter gatherer like I still
• 44:50
  think our genes are set for that.
• 44:52
  And so eating the healthiest meats, lots of vegetables, some
• 44:56
  good fats, little bit of fruit and minimally processed foods.
• 45:01
  So if it's in a box or a bag or try not to eat much of it
• 45:06
  because your body just works so much better when it doesn't have
• 45:10
  to deal with all of that. And then unfortunately, based on
• 45:14
  the environment that we live in today, all of us have built up
• 45:18
  environmental toxins between the air, the food, the personal care
• 45:22
  products, all of this. So we all need to be doing safe
• 45:27
  detoxification most days with things like liposomal
• 45:30
  glutathione and binders and liver support, making sure we're
• 45:35
  methylating well to, to be able to clear things out because we
• 45:41
  can do so much prevention with just some basic food and the
• 45:46
  right supplements. And then the things like the
• 45:51
  stem cells and peptides and hyperbarics and saunas and, and
• 45:56
  all of these things actually work, work better.
• 46:01
  But then to go on the metaphysical side of things, I
• 46:06
  think there's, you know, so much that we can really do to.
• 46:11
  And maybe this will shift as we figure out the how to move
• 46:16
  humanity forward with abundance for all where people get out of
• 46:19
  this high beta Olympic state that's run from the tiger.
• 46:24
  If we can shift into a restorative alpha Theta state
• 46:30
  where we we actually can tune into our higher selves and have
• 46:36
  biology where we're doing repair in our bodies better, I think
• 46:42
  that could be that. That could be an amazing shift
• 46:45
  for humanity if you're not worried about the things that
• 46:50
  most people worried about. There's I think most people are
• 46:54
  staying in this constant state of worry, whether they realize
• 46:57
  it or not. Like, you know, especially if
• 47:03
  they watch the news, read the newspaper or scroll through
• 47:07
  social. It's just there's a zillion
• 47:11
  things we can all be worrying about.
• 47:13
  And if we're and if we're focusing our attention there
• 47:16
  rather than on what we love, what we want to contribute, how
• 47:20
  we want to make the world better, it's going to be really
• 47:25
  challenging to make this shift that we can make here in the
• 47:28
  next decade. So I love to use technology.
• 47:33
  So things like our feedback whether you get a use a sensei
• 47:40
  or one of those that can use that in a meditation practice or
• 47:44
  go do a week long meditation at 40 years is then.
• 47:48
  Yeah, that's Dave Aspers. Dave Aspers, I think that can
• 47:53
  that can do a ton of prevention and I can make everything work
• 47:58
  better. With meditation, do you have a
• 48:02
  regular meditation practice yourself?
• 48:04
  I do. I do too.
• 48:06
  Yeah, that's. Been one of the things that I
• 48:08
  have dabbled in so many things in my life.
• 48:12
  Everything from I love Gimpo Roshi, Big mind, big heart you
• 48:19
  would probably love. His I hear, Yeah.
• 48:20
  I don't know. Is that his book?
• 48:22
  Big Mind, Big Heart? OK.
• 48:24
  And then he played some meditation retreats.
• 48:26
  He would be really fascinating for you to talk to to.
• 48:29
  He's been a beautiful teacher for me to centering prayer, to
• 48:35
  Joe Dispenza's, to just mindfulness training with John
• 48:40
  Cavitzen and Sake Santarelli. That where they've done the
• 48:43
  research around. I went on a meditation retreat
• 48:46
  led by John Cavitzen at the beginning of this year.
• 48:50
  Yeah, it's my first ever silent meditation retreat.
• 48:53
  How is it? You know, it's really
• 48:55
  interesting. He's actually going to be on the
• 48:56
  podcast. We talked about that.
• 48:58
  Yeah, he's, he's amazing. He's I mean, he's 82, but wow,
• 49:01
  he is just completely and totally like, you know, super
• 49:06
  high energy and you would never know, you know, you'd never
• 49:08
  know. I mean really just incredible
• 49:12
  guy. And what what it what it did is
• 49:16
  it really tunes up your senses. You know, one of the things that
• 49:20
  was in a world appears, you know, Michael Pollan's new book
• 49:24
  and also a book that I just finished.
• 49:25
  It's a really short one that's called Fearlessness by Anthony
• 49:29
  D'mello. I'm a big fan of awareness,
• 49:32
  which is which is a book that Taro actually recommended.
• 49:35
  He was on the podcast, I think on episode 14.
• 49:38
  But the founder of forcing Matic, he he was he was here.
• 49:42
  And I'm big fan of their products.
• 49:43
  I use their products in my smoothies and, and take them
• 49:48
  every day. And this is not an ad like I, I
• 49:51
  don't, I don't have any sponsors or anything.
• 49:53
  This is all self funded. But you know, I really love his
• 49:56
  products and, and love him as a friend in his heart.
• 50:00
  But in both fearlessness by Anthony D'mello and and her
• 50:04
  world appears there. There was a big part of it where
• 50:08
  it was talking about reclaiming our child mind and that, you
• 50:15
  know, to be embodied like a child and have that wonder for
• 50:18
  the world and seeing the stars for the first time and seeing a
• 50:22
  beautiful sunset. You know, I told our oldest
• 50:25
  daughter, Rachel, who's 21 now, that that if she just pauses and
• 50:33
  looks at the beauty of a sunset or sunrise that she gets a day
• 50:36
  back on her life. I told her that I think when she
• 50:39
  was like 6 or 7 years old, and she's done it ever since.
• 50:42
  She actually wrote about it in her essays to get into Tulane
• 50:46
  University. That was one of one of her
• 50:49
  essays. She referenced that practice and
• 50:52
  and there is something to be said for that now.
• 50:55
  I was making up the one day. Who knows, you know how how much
• 50:59
  of your life you get? Back maybe?
• 51:01
  Might might be a lot more. Yeah, right.
• 51:04
  But you know, just that appreciation for all the beauty
• 51:08
  that surrounds us there. Is a study I'm going way back I
• 51:13
  think it's like 10 or 15 years ago that they did on awe like
• 51:18
  just having the experience of awe and how it shifts the to the
• 51:24
  neurotransmitters and hormone levels to positive.
• 51:26
  So I think you were training her how to have a awe and like it
• 51:29
  probably does do something pretty magical so now with
• 51:35
  meditation for me sometimes I'll do a guided meditation if I'm
• 51:39
  really stressed and you know need a little bit of assistance.
• 51:43
  But what I really like to do is connect with herself, connect
• 51:47
  with God or the divine, and then just listen.
• 51:54
  Yeah, and I get a lot of messages.
• 51:56
  Yeah, I really do. And I have, so I I have probably
• 52:03
  a pretty significant brain injury.
• 52:06
  I was electrocuted when I was 2 and didn't figure out that I had
• 52:13
  a brain injury until I went and did 40 years of Zen and I did my
• 52:16
  brain mapping and and then also tried after years of meditation,
• 52:20
  tried to do their alpha training and under neurofeedback and it
• 52:28
  just what didn't happen. So instead of my brain being in
• 52:31
  an alpha state, I kind of live in a Theta state, which is high
• 52:34
  just that highly intuitive state.
• 52:38
  And then I learned a couple years ago when Craig Ventner
• 52:44
  came out with this book on the Human Genome Project, he had a
• 52:49
  you weren't there, were you? Did you know Linda and a Neil at
• 52:51
  the time? I.
• 52:52
  Didn't know them at the time. Yeah.
• 52:54
  I mean, I love them and they're they've become good friends.
• 52:58
  And, you know, he was on the podcast talking about why AI
• 53:02
  can't become conscious. It was a really good episode.
• 53:06
  Like we went really deep on that episode.
• 53:07
  I think that was episode 11 or 12, but it was, it was
• 53:12
  fantastic. But yeah, he's, he's become a
• 53:14
  very, very good friend. So I learned that there was
• 53:17
  something called a Fantasia where you can't create a picture
• 53:21
  in your mind. He has it.
• 53:23
  And he was attributing that to part of why he was, you know,
• 53:27
  could think differently and make the human genome project work.
• 53:31
  Not that I've done anything close to that.
• 53:34
  I've got a lot of friends that actually have that.
• 53:36
  So I. It actually runs a bit more in
• 53:39
  the tech tech crowd, yeah. So I have that.
• 53:43
  I cannot picture an apple in my head.
• 53:45
  You have this too. Wow.
• 53:46
  OK, well, and you were in the tech crowd.
• 53:48
  So actually you still are in the tech crowd.
• 53:50
  You're just focused it on, on, on, you know, healing, helping
• 53:56
  reduce suffering. I mean, really.
• 53:57
  But sometimes, especially in meditations, I'll get visions.
• 54:02
  And so learning that I can't create the vision made me
• 54:06
  realize that it's a receipt that I'm receiving a message.
• 54:10
  And it made me really start to trust the visions that I get
• 54:14
  more because it seems more likely than just my imagination
• 54:21
  going on something. So it's I really.
• 54:25
  It's turned into kind of superpower then.
• 54:28
  Yeah, it's really a gift. That my friends that have it,
• 54:32
  you know, including Aneal, it does serve as a type of
• 54:35
  superpower for them. You know, just like people, you
• 54:39
  know, our youngest has dyslexia and that also becomes a
• 54:43
  superpower because their brains work so differently.
• 54:46
  Like geniusness and dyslexia, Like a lot of the geniuses that
• 54:51
  are the most notable, you know, throughout history were
• 54:54
  dyslexics and they had to, they had the devil whammy of not
• 55:01
  knowing what was wrong with them and society thinking they were
• 55:05
  dumb before. Like we actually diagnosed even
• 55:09
  what that meant, you know, and you know, talking about there's
• 55:13
  probably so many things that we don't know or even going on in
• 55:19
  our bodies or spiritually that to diagnose and ultimately come
• 55:23
  up with a remedy today, you know, that we're treating as.
• 55:28
  And we're trying to, especially with the dyslexia, we're trying
• 55:31
  to get them to change rather than augmenting what is working
• 55:35
  great in their brains. So I'd love to dive into some of
• 55:40
  the lessons from the book. I mean, it's a, it's a big book.
• 55:43
  It's like a, you know, really chock full of amazing
• 55:46
  information. But what would be your best
• 55:50
  advice to, and I know you codified it in here, but the
• 55:54
  short the short version of your best advice to people that are
• 55:59
  planning to conceive? Yeah.
• 56:01
  So it's been interesting being out in the world talking about
• 56:06
  this topic because I'm getting a whole another perspective as to
• 56:11
  like what men and women are experiencing right now that are
• 56:17
  starting or growing their families or the the parents to
• 56:21
  be like. Some of the people that care the
• 56:23
  most are people like you that they're, you know, their kids
• 56:26
  are starting to go into adulthood and they're seeing
• 56:29
  these alarm bells, right? So the drop in male fertility,
• 56:33
  the drop in sperm count of 50% in 50 years.
• 56:38
  So like on average 1% a year, but it's accelerating.
• 56:41
  So the sperm count is dropping. Last count was 2.6% drop.
• 56:48
  Over one year. Over one year, yeah.
• 56:51
  And then the infertility rate, it's like one in six couples now
• 56:58
  are experiencing infertility, and that's accelerating.
• 57:01
  The numbers are starting to look like one in five.
• 57:04
  And it's not just US, it's global.
• 57:09
  And so then, you know, those of us that are kind of curious,
• 57:14
  yes, people are waiting a little longer, but the infertility is
• 57:17
  going on in our 20 year olds too.
• 57:20
  The most important thing that I want to convey is that there's
• 57:25
  help because so much of the conversation out there out there
• 57:30
  is like shocking. These 2830 year old women are
• 57:37
  feeling like they're going to start saving to harvest their
• 57:40
  eggs If they don't, if they're not ready to start a family yet.
• 57:44
  Yeah. Or you know, even worse at I had
• 57:49
  a patient who was at 31 was told she passed her window.
• 57:53
  At 31, wow. Oh my gosh.
• 57:56
  So we. Didn't even try to get pregnant
• 57:59
  until we were married, as I said, you know, eight years
• 58:02
  before. We didn't even try to get
• 58:03
  pregnant until age 31, you know, and then we had our first at age
• 58:07
  32. This narrative that our young
• 58:13
  adults are being fed is wrong. And so my main thing is to
• 58:17
  correct that because what I'm seeing is that when people's
• 58:24
  bodies are really tuned up, both the men and the women, my age
• 58:30
  range, when I read the book I put in there like mid 40s is
• 58:34
  kind of the time to start winding down.
• 58:37
  I have a patient right now who's just turned 48 and she's 8
• 58:43
  months pregnant so she'll deliver at 8:48.
• 58:46
  Got pregnant on the first try. Wow.
• 58:49
  Yes, that's incredible. I mean, that's like, that is
• 58:53
  really incredible, yes. And she's felt amazing this
• 58:56
  pregnancy because she took the time to do a little tune up
• 58:59
  rather than rushing right into this pregnancy.
• 59:01
  She, we worked together for a few months and she got her body
• 59:06
  all in balance and her partner did as well.
• 59:10
  And they, everything's so good. And then I, I see these couples
• 59:16
  in their late 30s, early to mid 40s that get pregnant and have
• 59:24
  their healthiest babies yet, even if they've had struggled,
• 59:27
  you know, had done IVF in the past when they were younger, go
• 59:34
  on to get their bodies into balance and, and do quite well.
• 59:37
  So in the book, I really outline what people can do to protect
• 59:43
  their fertility. So even, you know, if you're not
• 59:46
  wanting to get pregnant now, here are the things that you can
• 59:48
  be doing to keep your body fertile.
• 59:54
  So beware, you can get extra fertile.
• 59:57
  So take precautions. All right, All right.
• 1:00:00
  Had a lot of accidental pregnancies where people didn't
• 1:00:03
  realize how fertile they were. With like how to build up the
• 1:00:08
  nutrients, how to get the toxins down, how to get a really strong
• 1:00:13
  microbiome, get super healthy mitochondria.
• 1:00:17
  Like if there's any one thing to between just longevity, what we
• 1:00:23
  should all be doing to have long healthy lives, we need to be
• 1:00:28
  taking care of feeding our mitochondria so that everything
• 1:00:33
  works better. So things that protect our
• 1:00:37
  mitochondria and feed our mitochondria are great.
• 1:00:40
  So Coq 10, special forms of Coq 10 like MiTo Q, something called
• 1:00:46
  phosphatidylcholine, which helps to have healthy cell membranes,
• 1:00:51
  which is important for mitochondria.
• 1:00:53
  And then just for all cellular function, things like L
• 1:00:56
  carnitine, Ned, there's a whole list of them that can make a
• 1:01:02
  huge difference. And then what's really fun is
• 1:01:04
  that we can measure some of these things.
• 1:01:06
  We can look at your mitochondrial function, see
• 1:01:08
  what's happening with it, run our little mini mini experiments
• 1:01:12
  for six or eight weeks and see progress as we go along.
• 1:01:16
  Check the toxin levels, make sure that the body is really
• 1:01:19
  clean because we now know that especially for men, the exposure
• 1:01:28
  and build up of toxins in their body that not only affect their
• 1:01:31
  fertility but help the time capsule that the sperm is to be
• 1:01:39
  healthier by not having the toxins.
• 1:01:41
  These toxins like plastics and PFAS, phthalates, so many of
• 1:01:48
  them impact not just their fertility, but the health of the
• 1:01:52
  baby and even future generations.
• 1:01:55
  So really men in addition to women, which makes sense because
• 1:01:59
  the toxins get passed through the the pregnancy and through
• 1:02:03
  nursing, but then get one shot. And, and it's so important to to
• 1:02:10
  for, for men that those months before the pregnancy to have an
• 1:02:17
  opportunity to not put the things in the time capsule that
• 1:02:20
  they don't want like the toxins. But then the exercising and at a
• 1:02:26
  good weight and lowering stress and having a strong microbiome
• 1:02:31
  because those impact the epigenetics, how those genes are
• 1:02:35
  being dialed up and dialed down. But then the baby's genes know
• 1:02:40
  how to be expressed. So it's really exciting times
• 1:02:44
  because people have done incredible research in
• 1:02:47
  epigenetics to help us to know what the important things are.
• 1:02:51
  Yeah. You know, the the thing thing I
• 1:02:53
  love the most about your book is that it's such a intentional,
• 1:02:58
  loving, preparatory approach to to preparing to conceive.
• 1:03:07
  And therefore, you know what we were talking about earlier, both
• 1:03:12
  sides are radiating more intentionality, which is rating
• 1:03:17
  more love and bringing these beautiful souls into this
• 1:03:24
  physical vessel during this incredible time in humanity's,
• 1:03:28
  humanity's ark. So it's, and you know, not
• 1:03:32
  everybody can afford to work with with Someone Like You, but
• 1:03:36
  you've codified it all in here, which is, which is, which is a
• 1:03:39
  real gift. And it's interesting too,
• 1:03:42
  because it really does have the information that people need
• 1:03:48
  that they can go do it. And then what's interesting is
• 1:03:50
  we've I've just started an online program for people that
• 1:03:54
  want something in between. We've got people in Canada and
• 1:03:58
  Finland and US all coming together and having these
• 1:04:03
  conversations and getting to ask questions.
• 1:04:05
  So I've, I've even started providing and something in
• 1:04:08
  between the book and coming to see me as a patient, which I am
• 1:04:12
  so enjoying. I didn't know it was gonna be, I
• 1:04:15
  thought, oh, I'm not. I'm good at the one-on-one.
• 1:04:17
  I'm good at writing the book. I didn't.
• 1:04:18
  It's like, I don't know how it's going to be to do an online
• 1:04:21
  program, but I love it. It's so and it, it's like back
• 1:04:25
  to this, like belief in humanity.
• 1:04:29
  It's so interesting how the people in the program already
• 1:04:33
  care about each other even though they've just met on Zoom.
• 1:04:35
  Like they're rooting each other on.
• 1:04:38
  It's so fun. You know, one, one thing you
• 1:04:40
  said at Jason and Jessica's, which I loved and I if, if
• 1:04:48
  you're, if you're willing to go into it, it would be great.
• 1:04:51
  But but you said there's these beautiful souls, like these very
• 1:04:55
  pure souls that are ready to Incarnate for this time.
• 1:04:59
  So on the spiritual side of things, at the sake of the
• 1:05:02
  possibility of sounding a little crazy, but you know.
• 1:05:05
  But I but I loved it. I mean, it's, it immediately
• 1:05:07
  sounded like, yes, that is correct, you know?
• 1:05:11
  I get these visions. Yeah.
• 1:05:14
  It especially in meditation of the soul families that have a
• 1:05:23
  little different frequency than what our current generations
• 1:05:27
  have because I believe we have soul families and these.
• 1:05:31
  And so then the message that I get when I see these soul
• 1:05:36
  families is that they are part of the answer for this upgrade
• 1:05:43
  in humanity is going to be happening.
• 1:05:47
  That they have a different like frequency.
• 1:05:51
  Their souls have a little different frequency.
• 1:05:54
  And that they if they try to come into bodies that aren't
• 1:05:59
  physically robust, they burn out, they don't make it.
• 1:06:03
  I think it's part of why we're seeing some of these, you know,
• 1:06:06
  the increase in early mascara, just like a lot of women will
• 1:06:10
  feel like, oh, I think I was pregnant, but then period comes
• 1:06:13
  a few days early or a few days late kind of thing.
• 1:06:16
  I think a lot of times that's one of these souls that made it
• 1:06:19
  through the shoot into the metaphysical.
• 1:06:21
  And there's something really there's a discovery that shows
• 1:06:25
  that when the sperm meets the egg, there's a spark of light.
• 1:06:31
  I think, yeah, I've seen, I've seen those videos.
• 1:06:34
  It's so cool. Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  I think that's when the soul is able to, you know, connect into
• 1:06:40
  the physical, into physical form is that spark of light.
• 1:06:45
  And so then. I need to put one of those in
• 1:06:48
  the show notes for this episode. If people haven't seen that,
• 1:06:52
  it's like, it's so. Fascinating.
• 1:06:53
  It just makes you even more amazed at that humanity exists.
• 1:06:58
  Well, we touched on, you know, quantum physics.
• 1:07:01
  I mean, we know that we're all light and energy.
• 1:07:05
  We already know that. I mean, we know that we're, I
• 1:07:10
  mean adult male is on average around 37 trillion cells.
• 1:07:15
  And then I apparently have an equal number of organisms on top
• 1:07:20
  of that that cohabitate with me that, you know, a lot of them
• 1:07:24
  are in the. Times more DNA than you do.
• 1:07:26
  Yeah, but but they're like living with me.
• 1:07:28
  Yes exactly and helping us like we would be dead without them.
• 1:07:32
  They do so much work for. Us, of course, right, right.
• 1:07:35
  But they're part of what forms this physical, you know?
• 1:07:39
  And our epigenetics, they actually influence what our
• 1:07:41
  genes do. Yeah.
• 1:07:43
  Yeah. So like, so it's bacteria,
• 1:07:45
  yeast, parasites and fungi. And it's so interesting because
• 1:07:50
  there's this ongoing theme of craving sweets with when when
• 1:07:56
  people have fungal infections. So it's actually, I think it's a
• 1:07:58
  lot of what's driving us to eat the carbs.
• 1:08:01
  Yeah, yeah. So they can get fed.
• 1:08:03
  All right, all right, so it's. Amazing collaboration.
• 1:08:06
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's wild.
• 1:08:09
  And you know, I was, I was doing research on this and I was like,
• 1:08:13
  well, I wonder how many like, you know, kind of die in a
• 1:08:18
  reborn every day. And the number for that, it's
• 1:08:22
  around 30 trillion a day. But now that I'm mixing numbers
• 1:08:26
  there because that's the combination of cells and the
• 1:08:29
  organisms, but it adds up to. So if I'm around 80 trillion
• 1:08:33
  things and then around 30 trillion are being reborn every
• 1:08:39
  day. But yes, there's this durable
• 1:08:43
  sense of self. Yeah, you know.
• 1:08:45
  And I think that's the soul. It's it's definitely the soul.
• 1:08:48
  I think that's the soul. Yeah, yeah, it, it, it
• 1:08:51
  definitely is the soul. I mean, it's it, it if it's not
• 1:08:54
  the soul, then there's which I believe it is.
• 1:08:58
  You know, we we agree on that, but then there's some kind of
• 1:09:01
  transference that's constantly happening and with memory to
• 1:09:06
  constantly like, you know, just infuse and all the things being
• 1:09:11
  reborn to create that sense of all the memories you've ever had
• 1:09:17
  since the time you were born. Have you ever talked to somebody
• 1:09:20
  who has memories of past life? Yes, for sure.
• 1:09:24
  Yeah. That's so interesting.
• 1:09:27
  Yeah, I've got. I've got friends who have had,
• 1:09:29
  you know, real, real strong visions of that.
• 1:09:33
  I'm also a huge fan. I've covered it on the podcast
• 1:09:36
  of, you know, Barry Weiss's book, Many Lives, Many Masters.
• 1:09:41
  And then one of my favorites is the kind of the meta study
• 1:09:46
  above, above all those is Journey of Souls by Michael
• 1:09:50
  Newton. And it relates a lot to what you
• 1:09:53
  were saying, is that there's these souls that are waiting to
• 1:09:56
  Incarnate for the right time. So these souls that I see are
• 1:10:01
  new souls. They haven't been here before
• 1:10:03
  and they have different operating systems.
• 1:10:05
  They're going to help with this embodiment of love and less fear
• 1:10:12
  so that then we can create a different environment for humans
• 1:10:17
  to feel safe. And, and I think that the more
• 1:10:21
  of them that are actually able to come into human form, it's
• 1:10:25
  going to change the frequency on the planet, like everything's
• 1:10:28
  going to operate differently. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:31
  I think that's fascinating. You know, that has a lot of
• 1:10:35
  synchronicity with Chris Fascia's book, which is called
• 1:10:39
  LSD and the Mind of the Universe, Diamonds from Heaven.
• 1:10:41
  He was on episode 36, the podcast.
• 1:10:45
  Oh my gosh, that book is amazing.
• 1:10:47
  It's it's one of the best that I've ever read on trying to
• 1:10:51
  decode what the reality is. But one of the I mean, if you if
• 1:10:56
  you jump into that book, one of the best ways to start is start
• 1:11:00
  at Chapter 9, go from Chapter 9 to 11 and then and then you'll
• 1:11:03
  want to read the whole thing. But Chapter 9 through 11 are on
• 1:11:07
  the birth of the future human and Oh my.
• 1:11:10
  Gosh, so he's saying some of the same things.
• 1:11:13
  He completely is saying some of the same things and it's it's
• 1:11:16
  this it's this diamond soul that is waiting that it's basically
• 1:11:22
  we're being forged in this in this world of form through all
• 1:11:28
  the pressure to birth, cosmically birth the new human.
• 1:11:34
  It's these souls that are we. And so I think what my book,
• 1:11:38
  like, I think the people that are going to really gravitate
• 1:11:39
  towards my book are the people that really want to welcome
• 1:11:42
  these souls different, like they're going to be prepared to
• 1:11:47
  parent differently. So I, I need help finding those
• 1:11:53
  parents. I need to, I need to have these
• 1:11:57
  parents have this book so that they don't have to go through
• 1:12:01
  all the trauma. Like it's really fascinating how
• 1:12:04
  many of them actually feel these souls in their fields before
• 1:12:09
  they get pregnant or between pregnancies.
• 1:12:14
  So I need to find the parents so that they can, you know, have
• 1:12:17
  this information to know what to do to prepare.
• 1:12:22
  Because the brighter these lights, the stronger the bodies
• 1:12:26
  have to be. Yeah, that's that's and really
• 1:12:30
  fascinating. The more this idea of self love
• 1:12:35
  like these parents, the more they really learn to be kind and
• 1:12:41
  loving and generous with themselves and each other, the
• 1:12:46
  easier the metaphysical people be for for the these souls to
• 1:12:52
  come into. And you know, a lot of times,
• 1:12:56
  you know, the way at least the way I had was parented, the way
• 1:13:00
  that I parented. I didn't know this right.
• 1:13:02
  So I'm like setting the goals, like very lovingly, but also,
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  rather than kind of tapping into the my children's to children's
• 1:13:18
  like inner resources to find what they love and figure out
• 1:13:23
  who they are and how they want to be.
• 1:13:25
  I it was more like this is how we do things.
• 1:13:28
  Here's how you how you're successful.
• 1:13:30
  You know, it was more about striving and less about
• 1:13:36
  becoming. The souls are going to become.
• 1:13:39
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. More about more about being
• 1:13:44
  versus just constantly doing. Yes, exactly.
• 1:13:47
  You said it so well. Well, I'm borrowing that line
• 1:13:51
  from some spiritual teacher. It may that may have been John
• 1:13:54
  Kavitz in actually at the meditation retreat.
• 1:13:59
  So how do you kind of grapple with this reality we're at?
• 1:14:03
  I mean, you're, you're well read and I've been, you know, I'll
• 1:14:08
  tell you that that one of the big sparks for my soul quest and
• 1:14:12
  I and I write about it and love conquers fear was a very
• 1:14:16
  transcendent psychedelic journey where I got to really see behind
• 1:14:20
  the veil. And, and I'm actually quoting
• 1:14:26
  from that journey in the book because, you know, I had to do
• 1:14:31
  the internal work myself to allow love to conquer my own
• 1:14:36
  fear and be rooted, you know, in integrity and, you know, let the
• 1:14:43
  let the chips fall where they may, I guess is one way to say
• 1:14:47
  it. I mean, one of the one of the
• 1:14:48
  really interesting things that, you know, you and I are
• 1:14:51
  recording this the week before I go to Tulane University.
• 1:14:56
  And next week they are naming me Entrepreneur of the Year.
• 1:15:02
  Yeah. I can't even believe it.
• 1:15:04
  And when I, when I went on this, this journey to start this
• 1:15:08
  podcast and everything. Congratulations.
• 1:15:10
  But yeah, thank you. It's it's really it, I was kind
• 1:15:13
  of flabbergasted when the, when the president of Tulane,
• 1:15:17
  President Fitts, you know, handed me this and said, we
• 1:15:20
  really like you to accept this. And so there's this, I'll be
• 1:15:23
  giving a speech next Tuesday. And it's a it's it's just a
• 1:15:28
  huge, huge honor. But I, I made this calculus
• 1:15:32
  where I'm like, you know, I have to just be rooted in this and I
• 1:15:36
  have to be very transparent in terms of, in terms of how I
• 1:15:42
  grappled with the reality. And, you know, I, I had this
• 1:15:48
  meeting with Tulane before and I was like, you know, I'm being
• 1:15:52
  very transparent on a podcast. They're like, we love, love
• 1:15:54
  conquers fear. And it was this really cool
• 1:15:59
  instance of where I was like, you know, I never had anything
• 1:16:04
  to be afraid of in the 1st place, you know, in terms of
• 1:16:06
  just being real and being, being authentic about it.
• 1:16:11
  But you know, I can understand that some people that that, you
• 1:16:15
  know, are watching this or listening to this, you know,
• 1:16:20
  haven't yet had an experience like that, whether it's
• 1:16:22
  psychedelics or near death experience or meditation or, you
• 1:16:25
  know, Pariah in that episode, episode 31, she just had a
• 1:16:29
  spontaneous spiritual awakening. And so I'm just, I'm just
• 1:16:32
  curious, you know, how you, how you view this reality that we're
• 1:16:35
  in. I've always had somewhat
• 1:16:38
  mystical experiences meditating. Bring me to a Joe Dispenser
• 1:16:42
  retreat and like they're in the universe.
• 1:16:45
  I want to go to one of those I haven't gone.
• 1:16:47
  Yeah, it's definitely. I like his.
• 1:16:49
  I like his book. The whole energy and like it
• 1:16:52
  just helps you to get into a very deep and I've been I had
• 1:17:00
  been kind of anti drug actually based on my experiences in in
• 1:17:07
  residency. I had a young woman who ended up
• 1:17:11
  in the ICU after doing MDMA. She was totally psychotic.
• 1:17:16
  Like yeah, tipped her over. I had a colleague meet, she and
• 1:17:22
  I were admitting patients in the ER and a man had come in that
• 1:17:29
  she was taking care of it, come in and responsive.
• 1:17:31
  He passed away. It turned out he had had a
• 1:17:34
  coronary artery dissection. So basically the heart artery
• 1:17:39
  broke open from cocaine. So I'm like, yeah, no substances
• 1:17:44
  for me. A little bit of THC in high
• 1:17:47
  school and I'm like, I can't stand up.
• 1:17:52
  Like I'm such a lightweight, hardly drink alcohol.
• 1:17:55
  And then I had an experience right at the beginning of COVID
• 1:17:59
  where I had COVID early. So I started traveling.
• 1:18:02
  And so I went to visit a friend in Santa Fe.
• 1:18:06
  And this other friend of ours kept popping to mind.
• 1:18:09
  And I'd never, ever had a conversation on the phone with
• 1:18:12
  this person. I'd run into her places, maybe
• 1:18:15
  an occasional text, but we'd never talked on the phone.
• 1:18:18
  And she kept coming to mind. And so I'm like, we need to call
• 1:18:21
  her. And she was, she was like, Anne,
• 1:18:27
  I get who you are. You're my wing man.
• 1:18:30
  I just did the psychedelic experience and you came into my
• 1:18:33
  journey. She was like, she was in my
• 1:18:37
  awareness that whole day. So I was like, what is that?
• 1:18:41
  And put like this, there's something going on here.
• 1:18:44
  There's maybe I should rethink this whole psychedelic thing.
• 1:18:47
  Right. Right.
• 1:18:48
  And so two months later, I go and have my own experience.
• 1:18:52
  Yeah, it was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
• 1:18:57
  Really. Yeah, but one of the most
• 1:18:59
  absolutely amazing. I had no idea because I've done
• 1:19:02
  so, you know, I'm barely. I think you said you hadn't
• 1:19:06
  really dabbled. In I did LSD once when I was
• 1:19:11
  when I was young like like 18 and I did mushrooms once, but it
• 1:19:19
  was I didn't know what I was doing.
• 1:19:21
  It was mostly just a super weird experience.
• 1:19:24
  You know it was. What you wanted to repeat?
• 1:19:27
  No, and it well, and it was just a very different modality.
• 1:19:31
  Like there was no I mask, there's no music.
• 1:19:34
  It's just, you know, so it's very external and weird and lots
• 1:19:37
  of, lots of weird things. And, and so I, I didn't, I
• 1:19:44
  didn't do anything psychedelic again until I was in my 50s and
• 1:19:51
  I'm 54 now. But it was very transcendent.
• 1:19:58
  I mean, and, and, and not, not scary for me at all in terms of,
• 1:20:03
  in terms of the journey I had. But I really think it's
• 1:20:05
  everybody has a different type of journey.
• 1:20:07
  You know, like 20% of the experience is actually in the
• 1:20:11
  journey and there's some preparation and then your higher
• 1:20:15
  self for soul or whatever you want to describe talks to you
• 1:20:19
  for three to 12 hours and then record it.
• 1:20:25
  So the main take away is actually kind of on this theme a
• 1:20:30
  little bit. I didn't know what my higher
• 1:20:33
  self was going to want to review or to cover, but the main thing
• 1:20:41
  that I recall from that journey was the question was, is
• 1:20:46
  humanity worth saving? And so I had to answer that
• 1:20:50
  question, all right? So to answer that question, I
• 1:20:57
  had to hold all of the pain and suffering of all of humanity.
• 1:21:01
  Wow. So that's.
• 1:21:03
  Why it was hard? That's hard.
• 1:21:05
  Yeah, like physically, and it became physical for me.
• 1:21:08
  Like, so the journey you're flying down with the mask and
• 1:21:12
  weighted blanket on and I had to like to hold all of that.
• 1:21:15
  I had to sit up. And.
• 1:21:17
  Hold it and I like most well, occasionally people will purge
• 1:21:24
  on this particular medicine, but like there was so much that came
• 1:21:28
  out of me real and I think some of that was my own having held
• 1:21:33
  on to some of the pain and suffering that I had seen in
• 1:21:35
  residency, especially like when you're up close and learning how
• 1:21:40
  to do medicine at the same time. But the answer came back to the
• 1:21:49
  and that's really where I came up with this philosophy of the
• 1:21:52
  lot like that we are the creators of love that is such a
• 1:21:56
  unique vibration and all of existence.
• 1:22:01
  I think we are just like 1 little pin prick of their
• 1:22:03
  assistance. We're like kind of negligible
• 1:22:07
  except for this capacity to create light lab.
• 1:22:11
  But the so the message was the answer that came through was
• 1:22:14
  yes, even though the Oh, thank you for asking me this question
• 1:22:20
  because I hadn't thought about this in this was 2020 in a few
• 1:22:24
  years. So the problem with the pain
• 1:22:29
  because it's actually getting passed down epigenetically so
• 1:22:33
  that we can learn from our ancestors and avoid getting
• 1:22:37
  mauled by the tiger or the dealing with the famine or all
• 1:22:41
  the things but that epigenetics compounds in generations.
• 1:22:49
  So that's part of with book as well is if we can do the
• 1:22:54
  emotional healing before around the things that have caused us
• 1:22:58
  pain, then we're less likely to pass on that amplification of
• 1:23:02
  the pain to our children. Yeah, now that completely makes
• 1:23:08
  sense. And you know, I, in one of my
• 1:23:11
  journeys, the journey that actually led to love conquers
• 1:23:15
  fear, I saw very clearly that God wants us to make it that,
• 1:23:21
  you know, that this age of abundance has never been more
• 1:23:25
  possible than it's going to be in this lifetime through this
• 1:23:30
  exponential curve. And, and that God has this
• 1:23:35
  completely infinite love for us all.
• 1:23:37
  And that's where we get that capability ourselves because
• 1:23:41
  we're part of that. Our soul is part of that.
• 1:23:44
  We have that divine spark in US and it's up to us, this team,
• 1:23:48
  humanity, to choose that, and we have the free will.
• 1:23:51
  I can't believe you just said that.
• 1:23:53
  Yeah, cuz that what's the answer to humanities assembling like
• 1:23:57
  that was the bottom line. And you don't have to do this
• 1:23:59
  all yourself. Yeah, like you don't have to
• 1:24:01
  hold all the pain of of humanity.
• 1:24:04
  Yeah, yeah. And that the team's assembling
• 1:24:06
  team humanity. The team, exactly that.
• 1:24:08
  No, that's it. No, that's it.
• 1:24:10
  I mean, yeah, that that is that is what this this is all about.
• 1:24:14
  That's what my book is all about, et cetera, is how do we
• 1:24:17
  do that? Like practically, because it's,
• 1:24:20
  because it's, it's, it's daunting, right?
• 1:24:22
  It's, you know, I cover in the book, you know, my book that's
• 1:24:27
  coming out like I, I, I don't shy away from any of the biggest
• 1:24:32
  problems and opportunities we have.
• 1:24:33
  So I go into geopolitics, I have a chapter on that.
• 1:24:35
  I go into healthcare, I have a chapter on that.
• 1:24:37
  I go into education, I go into the objectification of women and
• 1:24:41
  all the suffering we've had as a result of that and, and how we
• 1:24:46
  need to transcend that and in some ways are in some ways
• 1:24:49
  backsliding. And, you know, and, and I, I
• 1:24:55
  cover a lot of other, other material around the biggest
• 1:24:59
  problems and opportunities we have.
• 1:25:02
  But then I conclude the book by talking about how do we
• 1:25:05
  transform and then case studies for why we should believe that
• 1:25:10
  we can, because there's a lot of proof that actually we can do it
• 1:25:16
  when when push comes to shove, like team humanity gets going.
• 1:25:20
  But this is the this is the ultimate forcing function for
• 1:25:25
  us. The technology is a forcing
• 1:25:27
  function for us to choose. So part of what comes as like
• 1:25:32
  looking at our current trajectory, we're of course.
• 1:25:37
  And So what I love about what you're doing is you're looking
• 1:25:40
  for what are the things that we can do to write to change the
• 1:25:45
  course. That's it.
• 1:25:46
  Yeah, Yeah. Cuz right now if we don't change
• 1:25:49
  something. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:53
  And and that's, you know, very clear eyed in in the book about
• 1:25:56
  that. I mean, you know, I have a
• 1:25:58
  chapter on nuclear weapons and warfare and you know that that
• 1:26:05
  chapter talks about how we can gain a handle on that and
• 1:26:09
  ultimately what we need to do and why we should believe we can
• 1:26:12
  do it. But, you know, we have in the
• 1:26:17
  world today 13,000 nuclear weapons.
• 1:26:21
  And do you know what percentage of those it would take to to to
• 1:26:27
  essentially wipe out humanity? I.
• 1:26:29
  Don't think it's. I don't know for sure, but I
• 1:26:31
  don't think it's many. What?
• 1:26:32
  What's your guess? .1%.
• 1:26:36
  Yeah. Well, you're, you're, you're a
• 1:26:38
  little bit a lot lower than but but it's but it's 2%.
• 1:26:41
  Yeah, I mean, it depends on where they, you know, where they
• 1:26:44
  hit and what they do, right? Like there's certain things that
• 1:26:47
  would wipe us out faster than others.
• 1:26:49
  That's true. That's true.
• 1:26:50
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:26:51
  But I mean, that's and, and you know, the acronym for that is
• 1:26:55
  Mutually Assured Destruction, which is MAD.
• 1:26:58
  So literally baked into the DoD term for why humanity does this
• 1:27:04
  is the insanity that we have to transcend.
• 1:27:09
  But ultimately it is a forcing function for us to transcend it.
• 1:27:14
  And the technology curve that we're in is is going to show us
• 1:27:20
  that we can get to abundance for everyone.
• 1:27:22
  We're going to be able to see it on the horizon.
• 1:27:25
  I think that's how it's actually going to happen and we're going
• 1:27:28
  to have, you know, bottoms up pressure from, you know, the 8.2
• 1:27:34
  billion people on this planet and then tops down.
• 1:27:37
  I think leaders are going to have a heart shift as they see
• 1:27:41
  that the scarcity that we've dealt with, we can transcend it
• 1:27:47
  for good. And you know, the things that
• 1:27:50
  I've said quite a few times on this podcast is we've only had
• 1:27:55
  electricity for .1% of our evolutionary time, you know, so,
• 1:28:00
  so we've dealt with scarcity that we can't imagine.
• 1:28:03
  As you're describing this possibility, you know, I think
• 1:28:07
  so many of us get our sense of who we are and what we provide
• 1:28:13
  in the world. Like, you know why we're even
• 1:28:16
  here through our work and through parenting.
• 1:28:23
  And I think there's, there's got to be a shift in like this.
• 1:28:26
  What like if we don't, if we're not having to work so hard and
• 1:28:31
  we're not like what, what actually makes us feel valued
• 1:28:37
  and important in our lives, right.
• 1:28:41
  And so they're, I'm curious what you think about that like.
• 1:28:44
  No, that's it. I mean, that's it.
• 1:28:45
  I mean, I mean, one of the, you know, it's funny.
• 1:28:48
  I was having this meeting with this entrepreneur that I've
• 1:28:52
  known for, gosh, probably 27 years for lunch today.
• 1:28:57
  And you know, he's a hardcore entrepreneur capitalist.
• 1:29:03
  And I told him, I said, you know, The funny thing is one of
• 1:29:06
  the pushbacks I get from people on us getting to abundance is
• 1:29:12
  they'll say, what do you just mean we're going to be like
• 1:29:15
  meditating like the Bhutanese. And I'm like, well, first of
• 1:29:19
  all, you're assuming that's a bad thing.
• 1:29:20
  I was like, I went to Bhutan on a family trip in December, and
• 1:29:27
  it's obvious how happy that country is.
• 1:29:31
  You can feel that, you know. I cannot been there yet.
• 1:29:33
  Oh my. Gosh, you, you definitely have
• 1:29:35
  to. It's amazing.
• 1:29:37
  It's one of the case studies actually in the book.
• 1:29:40
  And you know, they chose to prioritize gross national
• 1:29:44
  happiness. It's in the Constitution of the
• 1:29:48
  country and they are not just carbon neutral, they're 3X
• 1:29:54
  carbon negative because they they have 70% of their land as
• 1:29:58
  forest and they actually have a constitutional requirement that
• 1:30:03
  at least 60% of the land forever stays for it.
• 1:30:07
  So. Where do you think that wisdom
• 1:30:10
  and that you know what's possible comes from?
• 1:30:13
  Because that's like, even if we just have this conversation
• 1:30:17
  that's hot right now about getting glyphosate out of our
• 1:30:21
  food and then our environment, like there's so much stuck
• 1:30:30
  thinking around making changes. And what you're describing with
• 1:30:37
  Bhutan is like that's. They made.
• 1:30:40
  Their leaps and bounds over this, you know, the thinking
• 1:30:46
  that we have in our country about what's possible.
• 1:30:48
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:30:49
  I mean, it's, it's, it's education, right?
• 1:30:51
  It's it's educating that these that these are possibilities.
• 1:30:56
  And you know, there, there is a lot of darkness right now too.
• 1:31:00
  And one of the books that I read, which, which I just read
• 1:31:05
  over this line like 50 times over and over again is The
• 1:31:09
  Alchemist. You know, amazing book.
• 1:31:12
  And one of the famous lines in that book is it's always darkest
• 1:31:15
  before the dawn. And so I feel like we're in that
• 1:31:19
  time where there's like a lot of light coming, you know, a lot of
• 1:31:23
  souls that are coming, etcetera to help and a lot of people
• 1:31:28
  being awakened, A consciousness awakening underway.
• 1:31:32
  And the the heart shift is starting that at the same time,
• 1:31:38
  there's this like clinging on to the old zero sum game and
• 1:31:45
  technology is going to force us to make that shift.
• 1:31:48
  And, you know, very crude example is that we had slaves in
• 1:31:52
  this country, you know, that helped bootstrap capitalism in
• 1:31:56
  the country should never happened.
• 1:31:58
  Horrible, you know, dehumanizing, you know,
• 1:32:03
  othering, you know, like literally like treating people
• 1:32:06
  as subhuman. And the industrial revolution
• 1:32:09
  came along and that whole practice was completely
• 1:32:12
  unmasked. It's like, why would you do that
• 1:32:14
  when you have machines? And so so you have to kind of
• 1:32:17
  put yourself in a place where we're going to, with this
• 1:32:23
  exponential curve. We're going to get to a place
• 1:32:26
  where there are. So there's going to be so much
• 1:32:29
  energy abundance and so much possibility that it's going to
• 1:32:35
  force that shift. So it's a combination of us and
• 1:32:40
  the technology that we're manifesting.
• 1:32:43
  And the vision, you know, that I received is that God is working
• 1:32:47
  through US. You know, God is ultimate
• 1:32:49
  technologist. God's God's the technologist
• 1:32:52
  that created the universe. That's The Big Bang, you know,
• 1:32:55
  And the intelligent design is working through us to make that
• 1:33:00
  collective pressure and shift a reality.
• 1:33:04
  And, you know, we've got to make it.
• 1:33:06
  I'm 95% certain we make it. But but ultimately we have to
• 1:33:11
  make it. There are real risk.
• 1:33:12
  And I'm very clear in my book about about what the risks are.
• 1:33:17
  So that's the way I think it's going to happen.
• 1:33:20
  I can't predict what the catalyst.
• 1:33:22
  I mean, it's a bit like asking someone in India right before
• 1:33:26
  Gandhi came around to predict how the, the massive population
• 1:33:32
  there now it's the most populous country in the world, 1.46
• 1:33:34
  billion people that that at that time they massively had over,
• 1:33:40
  they massively outnumbered the British.
• 1:33:42
  They're like 15,000 British. They were keeping the entire
• 1:33:46
  country under British rule. And Gandhi through nonviolence
• 1:33:50
  with the numbers, just said, no, I'm not going to accept this is
• 1:33:54
  our reality and motivated an entire populace through sheer
• 1:33:59
  numbers. And I think part of that is
• 1:34:02
  going to be the way it happens. I'm not suggesting it's going to
• 1:34:04
  be violent. Doesn't doesn't have to be, but
• 1:34:07
  that there's going to be, you know, one, one thing to to be
• 1:34:11
  helpful about is this this youngest generation, their
• 1:34:15
  alcohol use is just like plummeting.
• 1:34:18
  And they're also starting, you're starting to see their
• 1:34:21
  social media use decline. You know, they're they're bit
• 1:34:26
  like Neo in the Matrix. There's like stopping the
• 1:34:29
  bullets. And so I think there's a lot of
• 1:34:32
  inputs. It's a very dynamic system.
• 1:34:34
  But but I do think that there's a spiritual reality that's
• 1:34:38
  trying to wake us up and trying to get us to, to make that heart
• 1:34:42
  shift. And the awareness through things
• 1:34:44
  like writing the books and speaking about it, and it's
• 1:34:49
  almost like the media and the current narrative around things
• 1:34:58
  is kind of lulling people into that fear based place.
• 1:35:02
  And so I love what you're doing because it's like it's just
• 1:35:06
  opening in a door to consider something else.
• 1:35:09
  It's like, here's another, here's another possible.
• 1:35:13
  Yeah, there's a lot of practices right now where it's, it's, it's
• 1:35:16
  putting profit over people. It's like, you know, it's, it's
• 1:35:19
  easier to hijack people's amygdala and get them to just
• 1:35:23
  click, click, click like a. Especially since COVID.
• 1:35:26
  Yeah, that's true. But I, I really think that
• 1:35:29
  humanity is going to, especially the younger generation, it's
• 1:35:34
  just going to be like, stop, Like we don't want that world.
• 1:35:38
  So we'll see. This is this is this is the most
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  important project I've worked on in my life.
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  Well, I love your heart and I love your book.
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  And I really appreciate, you know, all that you're putting
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  into the world to get us to this better, more beautiful place.
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  You know, it's it's all of us working together as team
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  humanity. You know, that's that's going to
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  help, you know, bit by bit humanity have that collective
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  heart shift. I see the shift happening.
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  It's changing the trajectory, and you do think it's helpful, I
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  think. I think it could get a little
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  worse before it gets better, just like I think you're
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  thinking too. But it does, it does feel like
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  there's breakdown of the current system that's not serving as
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  that's not working and building something new.
• 1:36:32
  Yep, Yep. And we need to like, we know we
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  have a problem, that we need to transcend that it's more people
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  seeing the possibilities for how we get there.
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  And it's going to be a very interesting 10 to 15 years.
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  So you and I are in this together.
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  I'm glad we're in the same neighborhood so exactly
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  collaborate. Great.
• 1:36:54
  Yeah, Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate you.
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  Thanks everybody again for tuning in to Love Conkers Fear.
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  What a loving, soulful episode. Absolutely love Doctor Anne
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  Shippy's heart. Definitely pick up her book if
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  you are in the process of thinking about conceiving this
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  is this is your book. You get you get all of her
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  wisdom in there in one read, which is which is a real gift to
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  us all and really collectively could be the medicine that
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  humanity needs to to to make that heart shift.
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  So thanks again for all the shares.
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  I really, really appreciate it. I just had an amazing meeting
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  with a with a big fan of Love Conquers Fear before this.
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  And she was telling me how much it's changed her life.
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  And that just means the world to me.
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  And I'm having that happen, you know, multiple times a day now.
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  And that gives me the real helpers high, as my CEO coach
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  Kirk Dando would say, of how this project is really helping,
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  helping people out there. So thanks a lot.
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  Please share it. As I've said many times, I'm
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  self funding this. This is my love letter to
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  humanity and if this moves you then tell people about it.
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  Thank you so much.