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The Bolt Report | 25 September · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: Is the bold reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight fifteen thousand Australians choose to live in Lebanon, So
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Speaker 2: why isn't the Australian government's responsibility now to evacuate them?
0:28
Speaker 2: Plus an insight into the mind of the modern socialist.
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Speaker 2: After the boss of Woolworths is bailed up in a
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Speaker 2: stunt and a leader of the Yes campaign still doesn't
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Speaker 2: get why he lost.
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Speaker 3: I do blame bad actors, they might have been confused.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Britain's Prime Minister makes a fool of himself of
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Speaker 2: Israel's hostages.
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Speaker 4: I call again from immediate ceasefire and Gaza the return
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Speaker 4: of the sassages.
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Speaker 2: The world laughed at him, but there was something else
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Speaker 2: that he said that was more frightening. And I'll ask
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Speaker 2: Rowan Dean which Western leader is now? Is actually strong?
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Speaker 2: Is actually a real leader for these days and not
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Speaker 2: an incompetent or a fool? Of course, we've got Hezbollah
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Speaker 2: fans now running on Sydney streets. Would you believe? But
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Speaker 2: first today was just bizarre. I mean, it's so embarrassing
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Speaker 2: for the government. When I read this story in the
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Speaker 2: Sidney Morning Herald this morning, negative gearing and labour sites
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Speaker 2: as Albanize ready for election battle. I thought, Hello, this
1:38
Speaker 2: is labor running an idea up the flag pole. You
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Speaker 2: know how it works. You know, our government floats an
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Speaker 2: idea without committing to it a league, no one puts
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Speaker 2: their name to it, just to see what the reaction
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Speaker 2: might be. Is a winner? Is it a dog? And
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Speaker 2: this report had all the marks, I mean a senior
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Speaker 2: labor official quota, a senior or another labor official backing
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Speaker 2: them up, both of them anonymous, both saying the Albanies
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Speaker 2: he governed, and ask the Treasury Department to work out
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Speaker 2: the costs and benefits of scrapping negative gearing, the negative
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Speaker 2: gearings the tax deduction. More than a million of strands
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Speaker 2: now claim when the rent they get for their property
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Speaker 2: doesn't cover their costs. As I said, a million people
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Speaker 2: now claim it. So it's a brave government that there
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Speaker 2: is to touch it. But if the government did fiddle
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Speaker 2: with it so tempting, if you fiddled with that and
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Speaker 2: the capital gains tax, it could get back seven billion
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Speaker 2: dollars a year. And boy, does this big spending government
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Speaker 2: need that money. And besides, you know, doing something that bold,
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Speaker 2: that decisive, makes the government look strong like it really
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Speaker 2: did have some big ideas after all that criticism. And
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Speaker 2: that's exactly what one of these unnamed officials also told
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Speaker 2: the Herald. This will give the government something big and
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Speaker 2: positive to talk about. It will be a major talking
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Speaker 2: point in the campaign. So, like I said, classic flag
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Speaker 2: pole league, except except it seems no one told the
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Speaker 2: prime minister that they do it. Anthony alban Ezi today
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Speaker 2: has seen completely caught out, not wanting to confirm, not
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Speaker 2: daring to deny, not knowing really what to say. In
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Speaker 2: the end, if you believed the alban Ezi today is
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Speaker 2: some public servants just decided all by themselves to work
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Speaker 2: off work out these costings. No one told them they
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Speaker 2: were just you know, doodling.
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Speaker 5: I've seen those reports. And what we do is we
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Speaker 5: value the public service. So from time to time, I'm
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Speaker 5: sure the public service are looking at policy ideas. That's
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Speaker 5: because we value them.
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Speaker 2: Four times Albanesi this morning implied the government hadn't asked
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Speaker 2: for these costings at all, hadn't been thinking of scrapping
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Speaker 2: negative gearing, although he never denied it outright. Is your government.
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Speaker 6: Considerate making changes to the days.
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Speaker 5: What our government is considering is fixing housing supply by
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Speaker 5: getting our legislation through the Senate.
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Speaker 2: That's what's really going on. I mean, had Albaneze maybe
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Speaker 2: learned only this morning that Treasure Jim Chumps had indeed
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Speaker 2: asked Treasury for this costings after his own department, and
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Speaker 2: had it then leaked? Is that why Albanieze wouldn't rule
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Speaker 2: out these changes a day as clearly as he did
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Speaker 2: last year, when he was very clear, indeed, would you
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Speaker 2: consider any.
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Speaker 7: During coursing at the election? No, so, are you're completely
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Speaker 7: ruling it out?
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Speaker 3: I think that was a pretty clear answer.
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Speaker 2: And it was only after Albaniz's press conference today. Harris
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Speaker 2: later that the Treasure himself finally emerged, after mysteriously canceling
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Speaker 2: a morning interview with the ABC at the last minute.
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Speaker 2: It was luck you first had to get his store
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Speaker 2: to match Albanese's or Alberanize is the match is, even
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Speaker 2: if it made him look just as shifty.
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Speaker 8: It's not unusual for the public service, and in my
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Speaker 8: case my department, I'm sure Katie's department is the same,
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Speaker 8: to examine issues that are being speculated about in the
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Speaker 8: public or in the Parliament. That's how a good public
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Speaker 8: service operates. I'm not going to engage in hypothetical impacts
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Speaker 8: of hypothetical policies.
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Speaker 2: Just level with us. All this doubles speak. And what
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Speaker 2: it did. It gave the Greens a chance that boast
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Speaker 2: it was now wagging this labor dog, which you sure
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Speaker 2: will after the next election of polls a rut if
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Speaker 2: Labour loses seats and stays in government only with the
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Speaker 2: Greens support.
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Speaker 6: Green's pressure works Labor cracking under the pressure that the
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Speaker 6: Greens have built on labor acting on the housing crisis.
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Speaker 6: There's no way that we would have heard this announcement
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Speaker 6: today that labor are considering changes weren't for the fact
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Speaker 6: that the Greens were mounting pressure on labor to take
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Speaker 6: real action on the scale of the housing crisis.
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Speaker 2: It's my tip. Yes, the government of course has been
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Speaker 2: considering acting negative gearing. But after this Kafaffle, I would
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Speaker 2: also ask who is now running this government? Is it
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Speaker 2: the prime Minister, is it the treasurer? Is it some
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Speaker 2: unnamed labor official, is it a public servant just doodling
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Speaker 2: away in treasury or other Greens in charge? But that
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Speaker 2: wasn't the only bad news for the Albanezi government. Well,
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Speaker 2: you know, it sounded like good news. In fact, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's true that the inflation rate today came down, the
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Speaker 2: headline inflation rate twoero point seven percent, which sounds wonderful
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Speaker 2: except it's a trick and the Reserve Bank is seen
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Speaker 2: straight through it. As the figures today show. The biggest drop,
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Speaker 2: I mean it's huge, was in power prices, down nearly
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Speaker 2: eighteen percent in a quarter. And it's not because power
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Speaker 2: prices actually did fall like that. It's because the Albanies
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Speaker 2: in Queensland labor governments are both handed out rebates on
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Speaker 2: your bills just for this election year only. Why would
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Speaker 2: that be And if you take that out of the picture,
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Speaker 2: if you take other one off out, our real inflation
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Speaker 2: called the trim mean is still at three point four percent,
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Speaker 2: still far too high for the Reserve Bank to cut
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Speaker 2: interest rates. That's what the Governor Michelle Bullock yesterday said. Sorry,
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Speaker 2: they're not going to be coming down in time soon,
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Speaker 2: no matter how desperately the governor actually needs that. Joining
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Speaker 2: me at Cameron Milner Form whichive for stuff, the labor
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Speaker 2: leader Bill Shorten, now Director of g Exos Strategies, and
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Speaker 2: Michael Costler, former New South Wales Labor Treasurer Michael Costa. First,
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Speaker 2: the reports of the government's considering changes to negative gearing
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Speaker 2: and capital gains taxes. Should it.
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Speaker 9: Look I think there's all a need to review taxes,
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Speaker 9: but look, the political motivation is what's wrong here. I
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Speaker 9: mean to look at negative gearing and any tax policy
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Speaker 9: in response to the Greens is bonkers. I mean, these
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Speaker 9: people don't understand economics. That housing spokespersons said some of
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Speaker 9: the most ridiculous things that I've ever heard. I mean,
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Speaker 9: there may be some arguments for looking at capital gains
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Speaker 9: on some properties, you know, I'm talking about millions of
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Speaker 9: dollars tens of millions of dollars properties and negative gearing,
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Speaker 9: but it's not going to be done in the context
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Speaker 9: of trying to negotiate a minority government agreement. And that's
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Speaker 9: what's wrong with this. It smells like a dirty political
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Speaker 9: maneuver to me.
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Speaker 2: Well, Scone News did ask photos of Sydney today. They
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Speaker 2: seem rather keen on this. Have listened.
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Speaker 9: I don't think it's helping with the housing crisis.
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Speaker 10: Because it gives people an opportunity to build on what
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Speaker 10: they have and increase their wealth.
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Speaker 11: Well, I think giving tax benefits the rich people multiple
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Speaker 11: properties might be a bit over the top these days.
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Speaker 9: I think it should be abolished because I think it's
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Speaker 9: driving up house prices.
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Speaker 7: Definitely get rid.
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Speaker 12: Of it now.
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Speaker 2: If you listen to them and to the Greens, cutting
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Speaker 2: negative gearing seems a wonderful idea. But Cameron Milner, I
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Speaker 2: don't want to revisit a traumatic past on you. But
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Speaker 2: pushing that idea is said to have cost Bill short
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Speaker 2: in the unlosable election.
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Speaker 11: Well, Andrew, I think in twenty sixteen, which was my
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Speaker 11: time as Bill's chief of staff, we actually ran the
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Speaker 11: negative gearing policy. We took it to the voters and
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Speaker 11: we came within one seat of winning. So I don't
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Speaker 11: think it's negative gearing. I think, to be fair, and
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Speaker 11: Bill said this himself. Franking credits ultimately cost us the
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Speaker 11: twenty nineteen election. But is it ironic that Albo then
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Speaker 11: put a whole review out which said, all these big
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Speaker 11: policies are terribly bad ideas, terribly bad ideas. Elect me
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Speaker 11: on a small target. And now he has to dust
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Speaker 11: a bill shortened policy off to even look policy relevant.
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Speaker 1: But what a cluster, day, Andrew, What a cluster?
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Speaker 2: I mean?
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Speaker 11: The prime is to look like an absolute place claign
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Speaker 11: it and if someone said to me explined it to me, Well,
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Speaker 11: as someone said to me today, you can always tell
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Speaker 11: when when the Labor prog Minister Alathon Abanese is lying,
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Speaker 11: his lips are moving.
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Speaker 1: I mean it was a complete cluster.
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Speaker 11: I mean this guy was caught out with a policy
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Speaker 11: that dropped out the back to James Bassola. Good on
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Speaker 11: James for getting getting the scoop, and then everyone was
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Speaker 11: running for the hills. If this is how Labour's going
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Speaker 11: to campaign, it'll be a great campaign for the media,
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Speaker 11: terrible campaign for labor.
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Speaker 2: Well, I thought it just looked a joke. But mocal
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Speaker 2: costs in the middle of all this inflation figures dropped.
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Speaker 2: The Reserve being today made clear it is not buying
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Speaker 2: the government's trick to artificially and temporarily lower inflation by
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Speaker 2: paying electricity rebates for a year. It's not going to
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Speaker 2: cut to interest phrase. But I want to ask about
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Speaker 2: this post by the Prime Minister today about his economic performance.
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Speaker 5: Listen, we have had now nine hundred and eight a
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Speaker 5: few thousand jobs created on our watch, more jobs created
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Speaker 5: since I've been Elector's Prime Minister than in every previous
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Speaker 5: term of any Prime Minister since Federation, Michael.
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Speaker 2: This raises the really big issue here. He says he
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Speaker 2: created nearly a million jobs, but at the same time
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Speaker 2: he lit in a million immigrants. So how much are
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Speaker 2: Australians better off.
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Speaker 9: Well, we know that Australians aren't better off because we're
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Speaker 9: in a categor recession and we know that's been going
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Speaker 9: for about six quarters now. But look, you know this
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Speaker 9: is absolute nonsense to say you've created more jobs than
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Speaker 9: any other government. Well, the economy's larger and as a percentage,
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Speaker 9: you're always going to do that. The next government we'll
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Speaker 9: be able to argue the same position because it'll be
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Speaker 9: a larger economy. It's an absolute nonsense. But what he
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Speaker 9: doesn't tell you is most of those jobs, if you
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Speaker 9: look at the last quarterly figures, two hundred and seventy
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Speaker 9: of those we're in the public sector and only thirty
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Speaker 9: three thousand we're in the private sector. So effectively, what
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Speaker 9: he's done is taxed, borrowed money and created public sector jobs,
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Speaker 9: which primarily, even though they may be necessary at low
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Speaker 9: productivity jobs. We've got government spending hitting astronomical levels, things
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Speaker 9: that we've never seen in the past, and this is
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Speaker 9: the basis of any of these claims. But you know
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Speaker 9: he's desperate when he's got to pull that one out
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Speaker 9: that he's created more jobs than any other government. That's
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Speaker 9: just a fallacy, of statistical fallacy.
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Speaker 2: Well if half of them go to immigrants that he
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Speaker 2: lets in the well by the million, I mean, I'm
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Speaker 2: not so surprised that he's creed so many, But how
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Speaker 2: are we better off? I've got to say, Cameron, the
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Speaker 2: new head of Woolworths, was that I bailed up by
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Speaker 2: someone reported to be a shopper and talking about the
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Speaker 2: working class being ripped off. This is after Wolworths and Cole's,
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Speaker 2: by the way, we're charged with allegedly claiming prices were
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Speaker 2: on special when they weren't. Have listened.
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Speaker 6: People for sharing your views.
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Speaker 13: We appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: We are doing everything that we can.
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Speaker 9: It's not used.
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Speaker 6: It's like reality that like millions of Australians right now
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Speaker 6: are struggling so taf and you're the.
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Speaker 9: One behind price gouging and profiting off this.
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Speaker 2: Now, in fact, Woolies weren't charged with price gouging. That
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Speaker 2: shopper wasn't really a shopper and doesn't seem working classroom
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Speaker 2: an interview later on Sky She's a student to in
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Speaker 2: one answer, ticked almost every socialist buzzword, Cameron and every
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Speaker 2: socialist cause in one diatribe Israel, genocide, capitalism, imperialism and
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Speaker 2: Woolies have listened.
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Speaker 14: And I think that you know, there's a relationship between
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Speaker 14: the Albanezi government giving support to a regime that is
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Speaker 14: committing genocide and wanting to advance the interests of Australia's
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Speaker 14: imperialist connections, and a government that is part of overseeing
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Speaker 14: one of the greatest tax on living standards we've.
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Speaker 1: Seen in decades.
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Speaker 14: So I think I don't apologize for wanting to stand
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Speaker 14: up against oppression, against genocide and against the profiteering of
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Speaker 14: big companies like Woolies, and.
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Speaker 2: Calls in fact checking all that that's got techbooks on them,
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Speaker 2: have got the only year buzz was she missed out
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Speaker 2: on transgender and racism. But that's the modern socialist that
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Speaker 2: Labour's now losing. What did you make of it?
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Speaker 1: Oh, she's a trust fund trot, isn't she? Andrew?
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Speaker 11: I mean born into white privilege and railing against her parents' wealth.
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Speaker 11: I mean it would have been daddy's credit card on
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Speaker 11: ed Walworth as well. Andrew, I mean these people revolt me.
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Speaker 11: I mean they don't work. They turn up to social
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Speaker 11: studies class at some university in Sandstone University, walking past
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Speaker 11: of Palestine rally as they go there and going yes, yes,
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Speaker 11: I'm ass. I mean, these guys are a joke, Andrew.
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Speaker 11: They don't live in the reality. They don't actually fill
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Speaker 11: up a grocery trolley with their own money, and they
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Speaker 11: rail against the rest of society. And look, as I say,
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Speaker 11: you benefits of it being a trust fund trot.
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Speaker 2: And yet Michael, you actually see this idea, this reversion
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Speaker 2: to socialism. And you know Israel is genosida. I've been
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Speaker 2: to Israel. I see no genocide. Being to the West Bank.
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Speaker 2: I don't see this genocide. What is that? This is
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Speaker 2: the new so called progressive youth. Mind you, I must say,
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Speaker 2: you were a trot when you were young, So maybe
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Speaker 2: you're going to give me an answer that's very forgiving.
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Speaker 9: Well, I've got to say that the only honest thing
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Speaker 9: that she said was the thing that was printed on
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Speaker 9: a T shirt Victoria what was it? Victorious socialism? An
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Speaker 9: accurate best, totally a state, accurate description of the state,
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Speaker 9: and gives you an indication to be aware of somebody
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Speaker 9: wearing that. At least it wasn't Shaikhavara T shirt. Look, look,
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Speaker 9: I think these people are in mind not already, Andrew.
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Speaker 9: It's a fashionable thing to get involved in. I think
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Speaker 9: the majority of the strain population supports Israel, and that's.
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Speaker 2: The reality of it.
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Speaker 9: You know, we can always point to the fact, no
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Speaker 9: mention of Iran, no mention in North Korea, no mention
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Speaker 9: of the Taliban, you know, the usual excuses and selective
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Speaker 9: viewing of the world and attack the only democracy that's there. Look,
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Speaker 9: I think they're just ignoramuses, and it makes you wonder
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Speaker 9: why we have X payment that producers people like that
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Speaker 9: running around the streets claiming to understand the world when
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Speaker 9: they've got no idea.
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Speaker 2: It always scares me here, Michael, is the combination of
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Speaker 2: I don't know nothingness with utter certainty that is just
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Speaker 2: so frightening. Michael Cosser and Cameron Milner, thank you very
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Speaker 2: much to you both. Now Israel's page, your attack on
16:51
Speaker 2: Hesbola Terris in Lebanon, brilliant move, but it sure has
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Speaker 2: woken up a lot of people to one danger. Electronic
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Speaker 2: gear can be turned into a weapon against you if
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Speaker 2: it's connected to the Internet or a phone or GPS,
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Speaker 2: and that includes your electric car. In the United States,
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Speaker 2: the Common Secretary there essentially wants the band software installed
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Speaker 2: in Chinese made cars because of risks to national security.
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Speaker 2: But what are we doing about it? Or reports today
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Speaker 2: that the federal government has been warned of the security
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Speaker 2: risk from Chinese electric vehicle software. Alison mcgimnon, who used
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Speaker 2: to be our national cybersecurity advisor, actually said we will
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Speaker 2: be on the wrong side of history as a country
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Speaker 2: if we don't act now. This is not about whether
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Speaker 2: something is manufactured in China. I think it is a
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Speaker 2: bit to do with that. It's about whether it requires
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Speaker 2: a constant connection with China to function. Join me as
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Speaker 2: Paul Gover, former car racer, one of our most experienced
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Speaker 2: motoring journals, even inducted into the Supercars Media Hall of Fame,
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Speaker 2: which kills me every time to say that because it
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Speaker 2: makes me so jealous. But anyway, pul go lovely to
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Speaker 2: see you again. What is supposedly the danger from Chinese
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Speaker 2: electric cars?
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Speaker 15: Well, the first thing we need to get straight, Andrew,
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Speaker 15: it's not just electric cars, it's anything made in China,
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Speaker 15: And the problem with it is if you think about
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Speaker 15: the amount of brain power that's in your mobile phone,
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Speaker 15: it's orders of magnitude higher in an electric car, and
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Speaker 15: more and more well any car these days really because
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Speaker 15: of what they call over the air updates. Now, this
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Speaker 15: is the same as when your phone automatically updates it
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Speaker 15: software overnight. Lots and lots of cars have these sort
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Speaker 15: of systems in them. But obviously, if we can't have
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Speaker 15: Huawei looking after our mobile phone network, how can we
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Speaker 15: trust that what's happening with cars coming from China is
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Speaker 15: any different?
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Speaker 2: And what could they do.
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 15: I mean, we were joking about this twelve months ago.
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Speaker 15: A good friend of mine and I Roland Dane. He
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Speaker 15: spent a lot of time in a and he said,
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Speaker 15: imagine that somebody in China one day decided that all
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Speaker 15: the cars that have come out of China, you just
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Speaker 15: pushed the button and made them all drive in Australia
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Speaker 15: at twenty kilometers an hour, or told them all to stop.
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Speaker 15: Now that sounds fanciful and it's alarmist. But we don't know,
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Speaker 15: is the honest answer. We don't know what these cars
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Speaker 15: can do because there are so many functions now, which
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Speaker 15: are updated electronically from a remote base.
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Speaker 1: We know that BMW for insurance, and.
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Speaker 15: I'm not saying there's any security threat from BMW's but
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Speaker 15: they have a whole lot of functions built into the car,
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Speaker 15: and you pay a subscription. They turn them on and
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Speaker 15: off remotely, so you have no control over the software
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Speaker 15: in the car that's giving you those functions. We don't
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Speaker 15: know what functions are in Chinese built cars that are
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Speaker 15: coming to our roads. And the other thing is Chinese
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Speaker 15: cars generally speaking, are flooding into Australia at the moment,
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Speaker 15: six new brands coming here before the end of the year.
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Speaker 1: Andrew I can barely keep up.
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Speaker 15: And the other thing is on the electric car front,
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Speaker 15: they're getting cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. So politicians in
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Speaker 15: Camberan can say, oh, well this is good because we've
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Speaker 15: got a cost of living crisis and cheap cars is good,
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Speaker 15: without thinking where they're coming from or what the implications
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Speaker 15: might be.
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Speaker 2: Well, there's the other issue too. They say we need
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Speaker 2: to get to net zero, we need to be driving
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Speaker 2: electric cars, no more petrol cars, so they would actually
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Speaker 2: welcome the very thing that endangers us, not for the
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Speaker 2: first time. What should we do about it?
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Speaker 15: I think we should look at what the Americans are
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Speaker 15: doing and piggyback off the research. They're obviously going to
20:37
Speaker 15: do research on that sort of stuff, but our own
20:39
Speaker 15: cybersecurity people should be able to do this, find out
20:43
Speaker 15: what can be altered, what's coming in over the air.
20:45
Speaker 15: And while we're at it, let's also have a look
20:48
Speaker 15: at the trading situation. Some of the Chinese brands have
20:52
Speaker 15: dropped their prices in Australia by thousands of dollars this
20:55
Speaker 15: year because there's a price war going on with startup
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Speaker 15: Chinese brands.
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Speaker 1: How can they do that?
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Speaker 15: We don't understand what the economics are of the cars
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Speaker 15: coming here. I talked to somebody in the motor industry,
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Speaker 15: not unless not exactly in the car area, but he
21:10
Speaker 15: has heard from his contacts in China that there's a
21:14
Speaker 15: fifteen hundred dollars bounty on caravans coming to Australia from China.
21:18
Speaker 15: Why is that not being looked into? Five hundred people
21:22
Speaker 15: working in the caravan industry in Australia, their jobs are
21:24
Speaker 15: under a threat.
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Speaker 1: We're doing nothing.
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Speaker 2: It seems that China is trying to dominate the world market.
21:31
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if they're using government subsidies to
21:35
Speaker 2: try and destroy Western competition. I see that sales in
21:40
Speaker 2: Europe of electric cars locally made have fallen so much
21:44
Speaker 2: I'm in down eighteen percent just last month. That their
21:47
Speaker 2: car industry is the main in the European Union week
21:49
Speaker 2: and it's mission laws before the companies go broke. So
21:53
Speaker 2: what is happening to the EV industry here?
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Speaker 15: Well, basically EV is pure battery electric vehicles. Demand has
22:02
Speaker 15: fallen by more than twenty percent since the start of
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Speaker 15: the year. Now, the electric vehicle lobby, you'll tell you
22:07
Speaker 15: they're delivering them in record numbers, and they are, but
22:11
Speaker 15: they've come off the crest of a wave. What's selling
22:13
Speaker 15: really well here now are hybrid cars, not battery electric,
22:17
Speaker 15: so they don't have the limitations they don't have. I mean,
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Speaker 15: I could stand, I could sit here for an hour
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Speaker 15: and talk to you about all the problems with converting
22:25
Speaker 15: the whole fleet to electric. But basically, hybrid cars are
22:29
Speaker 15: going ahead in huge numbers, and they're not all.
22:31
Speaker 2: Coming from China.
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Speaker 15: Toyota does very good everything that Toyota is going to
22:36
Speaker 15: sell in Australia in the future is going.
22:38
Speaker 2: To have a hybrid power plant.
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Speaker 15: So there's a lot of change happening. It's very early
22:42
Speaker 15: to pick a trend, but what I can tell you
22:44
Speaker 15: is that Chinese are using Australia as a test market,
22:49
Speaker 15: just the same as the Koreans did before they went
22:51
Speaker 15: to the USA, just before the Japanese did before they
22:54
Speaker 15: went to the USA. Australia is a very convenient Western
22:58
Speaker 15: test market, and car company have a history of doing
23:01
Speaker 15: stuff here and then migrating it somewhere else. So the
23:05
Speaker 15: Chinese are out to dominate in Australia and one of
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Speaker 15: the brands, BYD has said that they tend to be
23:11
Speaker 15: a number three brand in Australia inside five years.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 1: How are they going to do that?
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Speaker 15: They're going to flood the market with new models and
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Speaker 15: type prices.
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Speaker 2: Paul Gover always fascinated to talk to you. Thank you
23:24
Speaker 2: so much for your time. After the break, Britain's Prime
23:27
Speaker 2: Minister turns himself into an international joke with a disastrous
23:32
Speaker 2: slip of the tongue. But then, which you haven't been told,
23:36
Speaker 2: is that he says something even worse. We've got two
23:44
Speaker 2: hot wars breaking out already, involving democracies, Taiwan threatened by China. Next,
23:51
Speaker 2: where are the great leaders of the West? Though, you know,
23:54
Speaker 2: I remember when we had Ronald Reagan in the United States,
23:57
Speaker 2: we had Margaret Thatcher in Britain, and okay, you know
23:59
Speaker 2: it's just but we also had Bob Hawk, who I
24:03
Speaker 2: thought was pretty good. All of them at the same time.
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Speaker 2: But look now we've got Albanesi, the US has got
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Speaker 2: the Week Joe Biden, and Britain now has this joker
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Speaker 2: Keir Starmer bungling a big speech, big time when you
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Speaker 2: talked about the hostages held by Hamas, I call again.
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Speaker 4: For immediate ceasefire and gaza the return of the sausages.
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Speaker 1: The hostigal.
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Speaker 2: Joining me, I know that hostages is tragic, but sausages,
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Speaker 2: I mean, where did that come from? Joining me is
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Speaker 2: Ron Dean edswer in chief of The Spectator Australia and
24:41
Speaker 2: hosts of Outsiders on Sky News every Sunday at nine am.
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Speaker 2: Free the sausages roun slip of the tongue. I've got it,
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Speaker 2: but instantly it's made of my laughing stuff around the world.
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Speaker 2: Just unfortunate or what.
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Speaker 13: No, not unfortunate, appalling and rightly so. A laughing stock
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Speaker 13: around the world, but worse than a laughing stock because
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Speaker 13: the hostages themselves, who were taken in the most barbaric
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Speaker 13: act since the Holocaust on October seventh last year, the
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Speaker 13: most vile atrocious attack that any civilized nation has seen
25:17
Speaker 13: since the Holocaust. The individuals who are unfortunate enough to
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Speaker 13: be taken hostage into the bowels of Hamas and Gaza's
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Speaker 13: tunnels have suffered the most appalling situation you can possibly imagine.
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Speaker 13: As has been said, it's like they're living through the
25:35
Speaker 13: Holocaust themselves. The terror, the fear they would have in
25:38
Speaker 13: those dark, dank tunnels just is appalling. So if you're
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Speaker 13: talking about the releasing of the hostages, and if you're
25:45
Speaker 13: talking about the situation in Gaza, and you are so flippant,
25:49
Speaker 13: so careless, so disengaged from what you are actually talking about,
25:54
Speaker 13: that you're just reading words off an auto Q, that
25:57
Speaker 13: you could come out with something like release the sauce.
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Speaker 13: You do not deserve to be the leader of a
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Speaker 13: Western nation. You are a buffoon, a clown. You have
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Speaker 13: disgraced yourself as well as so disgustingly.
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Speaker 1: Disgrace that those individuals.
26:16
Speaker 13: Who have suffered so much and have had met such
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Speaker 13: an appalling fate many of them. I was sick you
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Speaker 13: put your finger on it, Absolutely sickened.
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Speaker 2: You have put your finger on it. He wasn't paying attention.
26:28
Speaker 2: The words didn't mean much to him. He was just
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Speaker 2: reading it out and misread something. You know, if you
26:33
Speaker 2: were just saying it like that, you really meant it,
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't say sausages. I mean, there it is. But Rowan,
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Speaker 2: all right. The world's laughing of that. That Prime minister,
26:44
Speaker 2: the Bridge prime Minister said something else in his speech
26:46
Speaker 2: that I found even more to him, because this he meant,
26:51
Speaker 2: and it's a sign of this new woke authoritarianism of
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Speaker 2: the left, and not just there throughout the Western world.
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Speaker 2: Listen to this.
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Speaker 4: Kids, don't give you control. That's almost literally their point.
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Speaker 4: So if you want a country with more control, if
27:09
Speaker 4: you want the great forces that affect your community to
27:12
Speaker 4: be better managed, whether that's migration, climate change, law and order,
27:17
Speaker 4: or security at work, then that does mean more decisive government.
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Speaker 4: And that is a labor governor. Taking back control is
27:26
Speaker 4: a labor argument.
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Speaker 2: Rohan. That's a speech that to me sums up the
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Speaker 2: lift today. Give us more control over your lives.
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Speaker 13: One hundred percent Andrew And in fact those sentiments are
27:44
Speaker 13: not new. Kirstiner could have been reading off the playbook
27:47
Speaker 13: of Lenin Stalin, the gram Sea School of Frankfort school,
27:52
Speaker 13: Cloud and Piven, the American communists who set out a strategy.
27:56
Speaker 13: The list goes on and on. Sawl Olynsky, communeists and socialists.
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Speaker 13: The extreme left have for decades and for a century,
28:05
Speaker 13: been laying out the only way to defeat democracy. They've
28:10
Speaker 13: said it time and time again, is to make the
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Speaker 13: situation within our democracy so chaotic, so unhappy, so miserable,
28:17
Speaker 13: so dysfunctional, that people would beg for a power to
28:21
Speaker 13: come in, step in and take control. It's even the
28:24
Speaker 13: playbook that Hitley used, amongst many others, Matzi touring. The
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Speaker 13: list goes on and on and on. Always chaos followed
28:31
Speaker 13: by a government seeking control to supposedly bring in peaceful resolution,
28:37
Speaker 13: always ends up in dictatorship, which always ends up in poverty,
28:40
Speaker 13: which always ends up in war and death. This guy
28:45
Speaker 13: making that statement that markets don't work, that he goes
28:49
Speaker 13: on to say that we will raise taxes in order
28:52
Speaker 13: to bring in more public servants, in order to put
28:55
Speaker 13: more control over your lives. This is a recipe for
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Speaker 13: out and out socialism, communism, authoritarianism, even totalitarianism. And it
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Speaker 13: is so despicable. Either this guy is so dumb that
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Speaker 13: he doesn't realize that he's spelling it out, or he's
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Speaker 13: so clever that he's quite prepared to brazenly put forward
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Speaker 13: a plan to destroy democracy in Britain.
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Speaker 2: You know, I asked that the top where are the
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Speaker 2: great leaders of the West today? I can only think
29:26
Speaker 2: of three, and you gave me one of the names.
29:28
Speaker 2: Runers talked to you earlier about it. Argentina's president have Malay,
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Speaker 2: Ukraine's president Vladimir Zelenski, and a woman, Italy's Georgia Maloney,
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Speaker 2: who on the same day that Sama gave his speech
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Speaker 2: calling for more government control, well, she gave a far
29:44
Speaker 2: greater speech calling for freedom for the West to stop
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Speaker 2: apologizing for itself. I found this inspiring stuff to some
29:53
Speaker 2: of it.
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Speaker 16: The West is a system of values in which the
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Speaker 16: person is central. Men and women, we are equal and free,
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Speaker 16: and therefore the systems are democratic. Life is sacred. The
30:08
Speaker 16: state is secular and based on the rule of law.
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Speaker 16: Our freedom and our values and the pride we feel
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Speaker 16: for them are the weapons our adversaries fear the most,
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Speaker 16: so we can't give up the strength of our own identity,
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Speaker 16: for that would be the best gift we can make
30:29
Speaker 16: for authoritarian regimes.
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Speaker 2: You remember Rowan that before she was elected there are
30:37
Speaker 2: all these hit jobs on her in the media about
30:41
Speaker 2: how she was a neo fascist and was terrible and
30:45
Speaker 2: far right. It seems that she's the one talking freedom,
30:49
Speaker 2: and a lot of other leaders in the West, particularly
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Speaker 2: English speaking world, they are not.
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Speaker 13: It's not extraordinary, Andrew, how those leaders that are case
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Speaker 13: capable of just laying it out common sense, basic common sense,
31:03
Speaker 13: no frills. You mentioned, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, Georgia Maloney.
31:08
Speaker 13: They can lay out an argument simply about the role
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Speaker 13: of government being to assist the individual, to provide the
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Speaker 13: greatest amount of freedom for the individual to prosper, for
31:19
Speaker 13: that individual and their family to prosper.
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Speaker 1: That's it.
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Speaker 13: It's not rocket science. Yet the left ties itself up
31:24
Speaker 13: in knots with climate change or this, or transgenderism or this,
31:29
Speaker 13: or human rights of the so on, so on, all
31:32
Speaker 13: which is about, as you mentioned with kir Starmer, seizing
31:35
Speaker 13: control of power over people's lives. It's the collective versus
31:40
Speaker 13: the individual. Every government that prizes the role of the
31:43
Speaker 13: individual in society is successful, economically successful, and those individuals
31:48
Speaker 13: prosper in that society. Every society where these politicians step
31:53
Speaker 13: forward promising you a better life, so long as you
31:57
Speaker 13: give them, give up your freedom and give them the
31:59
Speaker 13: ConTroll over your life, all will be better. They are
32:03
Speaker 13: the ones who create poverty, despair, war and misery and
32:07
Speaker 13: must be resisted at all costs. All prayers to Georgie Maloney.
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Speaker 13: It's so simple so that Peter Dunton plays the same
32:15
Speaker 13: playbook here. We need leadership here because, as you mentioned earlier,
32:18
Speaker 13: we are now in the position where the Alban Eazy
32:20
Speaker 13: government is a little better than a clown show.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you're absolutely correct. What you were talking about.
32:28
Speaker 2: What Georgie Maloney was talking about really that socialists we
32:32
Speaker 2: showed earlier. I wish you would pay attention because they're
32:36
Speaker 2: in love with power. This woman, Georgie Maloney is telling
32:41
Speaker 2: you freedom is what makes us strong. Rowendine, thank you
32:44
Speaker 2: so much indeed for your time. I mentioned I saw
32:50
Speaker 2: there and the British premise. It's talking about immigration. We're
32:53
Speaker 2: going to control immigration. Tell you right here, our immigration policies,
32:58
Speaker 2: and this is under both sets of them, particularly Labour ones.
33:02
Speaker 2: Look at the tumult they've unleashed our immigration policies. I
33:08
Speaker 2: wonder if they have left us stronger which was the promise,
33:11
Speaker 2: or in fact, in some cases weaker because you have
33:14
Speaker 2: a look. Since Amas attacked Israel, Hamas is the most terrorists,
33:19
Speaker 2: We've had our streets filled with angry protesters, including Palestinians
33:23
Speaker 2: and other Muslims, savaging Israel. And now that Israel is
33:27
Speaker 2: sitting back at Hezbollah, which is an even bigger is
33:30
Speaker 2: the mis terrorist army in Lebanon. We have had protesters
33:34
Speaker 2: in Sydney with some now we're in the symbol of
33:37
Speaker 2: Hesbelah on their jackets. That's the symbol of a listed
33:42
Speaker 2: terrorist group here. It's a terrorist group here and chanting
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Speaker 2: in Arabic about Hezbeulah and against Israel. I can't say
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Speaker 2: that after seeing that, that the immigration policies we've run
34:11
Speaker 2: have in each case left Australia better off. Well. After
34:17
Speaker 2: the break, the ABC chairman is giving a big speech tonight.
34:20
Speaker 2: The ABC lurches between disasters. What is he going to
34:25
Speaker 2: do to fix it? And is he strong enough? ABC
34:33
Speaker 2: chairman Kim Williams is giving you a big speech in
34:35
Speaker 2: Sydney tonight. I've been a few times. I've got to
34:38
Speaker 2: say he has to be one of the loneliest bossors
34:40
Speaker 2: in Australia. He's already got ABC staff warring with him,
34:45
Speaker 2: leaking against him as he calls for less left wing
34:48
Speaker 2: bias and less fluff. On the other hand, conservatives don't
34:52
Speaker 2: trust him. I mean you look at all the bias
34:54
Speaker 2: of the ABC and the recent scandals like ABC somehow
34:58
Speaker 2: doctoring video in a way that made Soldier and Russell's
35:00
Speaker 2: in a war criminal. Now person, I don't actually mind
35:04
Speaker 2: Williams is off the left. I know he's married into
35:07
Speaker 2: the GoF Whitlam family, but I do think he's saying
35:10
Speaker 2: the right things about the need for change of the
35:12
Speaker 2: ABC and is ready for a fight, although it has
35:17
Speaker 2: to say is probably pulling his punches and maybe lacks
35:20
Speaker 2: the social skills to get it done. But joining me
35:22
Speaker 2: is Sophie Ellsworth, media writer for the Australian newspaper. Sophie,
35:26
Speaker 2: great to see you. William is going to give this
35:28
Speaker 2: speech in about fifteen minutes. It's embarged until the end,
35:31
Speaker 2: but give us a context because right now, the ABC
35:35
Speaker 2: has been rocked by one controversy after another, almost all
35:38
Speaker 2: of them involving It's left this bars. I nen't see
35:41
Speaker 2: anything like it go through it this evening.
35:51
Speaker 10: But the latest scandal to surround the ABC is obviously
35:55
Speaker 10: the issue with alleged war crimes and the reporting that
35:59
Speaker 10: led to Heston Russell, the former November platoon commander, taking
36:06
Speaker 10: them to court and winning four hundred thousand dollars in
36:10
Speaker 10: damages for defamation. So now there's obviously the issues with
36:14
Speaker 10: doctored audio in helmet footage from an Afghanistan military operation.
36:20
Speaker 10: This is incredibly serious stuff. Andrew and has prompted David Anderson,
36:25
Speaker 10: the news boss, who might I say, has quit and
36:28
Speaker 10: he's leaving the ABC in the coming months, to call
36:31
Speaker 10: for an independent investigation that just last week we had
36:36
Speaker 10: Justin Stevens, the news boss, saying the reporters involved had
36:40
Speaker 10: nothing to do with this docted audio, well before this
36:44
Speaker 10: investigation was.
36:45
Speaker 1: Announced or even completed.
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Speaker 10: So this is yet another scandal that is dogging the
36:51
Speaker 10: ABC and obviously puts their trust in disarray from the
36:56
Speaker 10: Australian public.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Like I said, I've met Williams and I have
37:04
Speaker 2: no doubt he wants to do the right thing, even
37:06
Speaker 2: if I'd go in heart, I mean, I reckon it's
37:08
Speaker 2: Sabaska case. What do you think he needs to do?
37:12
Speaker 2: What should he really be saying tonight for a.
37:15
Speaker 10: Start, well, that the ABC needs to ensure that it
37:21
Speaker 10: is independent, it needs to ensure that it is impartial,
37:26
Speaker 10: and its journalists need to operate in this way. And
37:28
Speaker 10: there's been time and time again, Andrew, We've spoken about
37:31
Speaker 10: this many years now where there's example after example where
37:36
Speaker 10: a staff journalists in particular.
37:39
Speaker 1: Show their biases.
37:40
Speaker 10: And one example was a story that I had earlier
37:43
Speaker 10: in the year with Laura Tingle calling Australia a racist
37:46
Speaker 10: country and also accusing Opposition leader Peter Dutton of encouraging
37:52
Speaker 10: Australians to abuse migrants at open home expections. Now this
37:56
Speaker 10: is their most senior political reporter at the broadcaster.
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Speaker 1: So there's just.
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Speaker 10: One example of many, Andrew, where there's issues with the
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Speaker 10: impartiality and journalists show their biases and this brings the
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Speaker 10: A b C I believe into disrepute.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they should give up the hopeless task
38:17
Speaker 2: of expecting all that staff Walter Wall left not to
38:23
Speaker 2: be biased What they should do is have equal bias,
38:27
Speaker 2: bring in some conservatives, being in some, bring in some
38:29
Speaker 2: right wingers, and then they don't have to, you know,
38:33
Speaker 2: constantly be in fear of people expressing an opinion. Now,
38:37
Speaker 2: one scandal of the A b C was an example
38:41
Speaker 2: of the ABC involved too much with its own naval gazing.
38:44
Speaker 2: I mean, was when Stan Grant quit the ABC after
38:48
Speaker 2: claiming it didn't defend him against racists, which I think
38:52
Speaker 2: was right over the top. Stands a big boy. But
38:55
Speaker 2: the ABC folded and announced an inquiry into racism at
38:59
Speaker 2: our national broadcast. Where's that inquiry going?
39:05
Speaker 10: Well, Andrew, that's the million dollar question because I keep
39:08
Speaker 10: asking the ABC. This review was announced in May last year,
39:15
Speaker 10: and we are now almost in October, a year on,
39:18
Speaker 10: and they still haven't revealed this report, which is just
39:21
Speaker 10: amazing that it can take almost a year and a
39:24
Speaker 10: half to have an investigation. But there were reports out
39:27
Speaker 10: today that the racism review will be handed down on
39:31
Speaker 10: October one. I've repeatedly asked the ABC's communications department, but
39:36
Speaker 10: they won't tell me.
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Speaker 2: Sophie, I'm going to give you a tip anytime. And
39:42
Speaker 2: the AFL clubs have found this to their cost you
39:47
Speaker 2: asked for a racism inquiry by racism experts. Believe me,
39:51
Speaker 2: they're going to find some. Whether there is some or not,
39:54
Speaker 2: they all find some. Sophie Elsworth, thank you so much
39:57
Speaker 2: for your time. After the break a Voice campaigner is
40:01
Speaker 2: still insulting the intelligence of the Australians who said no.
40:10
Speaker 2: You know, it's almost a year now since Australians voted
40:12
Speaker 2: no to Labour's Voice the kind of advisory parliament in
40:16
Speaker 2: our constitution just for Aborigines. Sixty percent of Australian said
40:20
Speaker 2: no to dividing us race like this. But one of
40:24
Speaker 2: the leaders of the S campaign, Thomas Mayo, still doesn't
40:27
Speaker 2: get that. Cavin Sky today still doesn't get my Australians
40:32
Speaker 2: genuinely and wisely don't like racial division. Now. Mayo's ancestors
40:39
Speaker 2: actually include Filipinos, people from Borneo, England, Poland even Jews
40:44
Speaker 2: as well as Aborigines. Has written a new book where
40:47
Speaker 2: he blames instead evil and ignorant people for the Voice
40:52
Speaker 2: getting defeated.
40:54
Speaker 3: I do blame bad actors and I talk about that
40:56
Speaker 3: in the book that you know, some bad actors took
40:59
Speaker 3: that opportunity and that was immoral. But Australians I think
41:03
Speaker 3: are fair and decent people. They might have been confused
41:06
Speaker 3: or led to fear that they'll do something personally by
41:09
Speaker 3: voting yes.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it was confused at all when I
41:14
Speaker 2: said no. Joining me at Daniel Wilde, Deputy Executive Director
41:17
Speaker 2: of the Institute of Public Affairs and cad of Bond
41:20
Speaker 2: the Young Superstar, now on the Late Debate here on
41:24
Speaker 2: Sky News weeknights at ten pm. I've followed your career
41:27
Speaker 2: for so many years, well not that many years, Caleb,
41:31
Speaker 2: but admired every bit of it. Caleb. I have not
41:35
Speaker 2: yet heard one Yes campaign leader give credit to Australians
41:41
Speaker 2: for voting with intelligence, voting without malice, voting in the
41:45
Speaker 2: full knowledge of what they were doing. Not one has
41:47
Speaker 2: admitted actually the whole idea of the Voice stink Well.
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Speaker 12: I don't think they do their cause any help by
41:56
Speaker 12: continuing down this line. I mean Thomas Mayo talks about
41:59
Speaker 12: bad actors there. The only bad actors who were involved
42:02
Speaker 12: in the Voice campaign were those sort of BC and
42:05
Speaker 12: D grade celebrities who tried to tell us that we
42:08
Speaker 12: must vote yes or we were racist. That was exactly
42:12
Speaker 12: what we rejected and instead of saying okay, let's go
42:16
Speaker 12: back to tools here. We didn't get the voice up.
42:18
Speaker 12: What we want to achieve is reconciliation. Now. You know,
42:22
Speaker 12: you look at the definition of the word reconciliation, you'd
42:24
Speaker 12: think it involved reconciling, which means two groups coming together
42:29
Speaker 12: and settling their differences, as opposed to growing apart.
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Speaker 1: They've said, no, bugger it, we're.
42:34
Speaker 12: Going to go even harder now. And what you see
42:37
Speaker 12: is it turning people off even more. I think as
42:40
Speaker 12: well of Brendan Kern, of course, the bloke who gave
42:43
Speaker 12: further welcome to country at an AFL match in Sydney
42:47
Speaker 12: a couple of weeks ago during the finals, and we're
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Speaker 12: on about you know, we were doing this two hundred
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Speaker 12: and fifty thousand years BCBC standing for before Cook. Well,
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Speaker 12: he came out last week and doubled down and said
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Speaker 12: that the reaction was stupid, and he had his time over,
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Speaker 12: he'd say the same stuff again and he'd go for longer.
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Speaker 12: What do these people think is going to happen if
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Speaker 12: they keep lecturing us will simply turn off.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, But the thing is, Daniel will that when you
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Speaker 2: play the game of racial division, that's exactly the country
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Speaker 2: you're in. It is about your mob, my mob, and
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Speaker 2: there is ultimately no reconciliation.
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Speaker 17: Well that's exactly right, Andrew. We're more divided than ever before.
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Speaker 17: The Voice has caused that division in many ways, and
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Speaker 17: I think this is another example of the elite simply
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Speaker 17: don't get it. They don't care about the opinions of
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Speaker 17: mainstream Australians. This was not just a right wing rejection.
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Speaker 17: This was you know, something that's often not commented upon
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Speaker 17: is forty percent of labor voters voted no. Forty percent
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Speaker 17: of those who supported and voted for Anthony Albernezi at
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Speaker 17: the twenty twenty two election, not even eighteen months later,
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Speaker 17: rejected his marquee policy. And what did Albernezi say. He
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Speaker 17: gave the worst speech of his political life on referendum
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Speaker 17: night where he blamed two things. He blamed misinformation and
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Speaker 17: now guess what's back on the agenda. The misinformation laws
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Speaker 17: are back in Parliament. They want that ram through by
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Speaker 17: Christmas time. And he blamed the good old bogey man
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Speaker 17: Peter Dutton for saying he didn't want racial division in
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Speaker 17: the constitution. So look, Andrew, the elites in our society
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Speaker 17: simply have no interest whatsoever in listening to mainstream Australians
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Speaker 17: who said we all want to be equal in our constitution.
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Speaker 2: It is so arrogant to say, no, you don't have
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Speaker 2: a valid point and the matches. I don't agree with you,
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Speaker 2: but you're misinformed or you're dishonest there. I mean, it
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Speaker 2: is so arrogant for people to say that, and you're right.
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Speaker 2: It's got this consequence of a bill to restrict our
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Speaker 2: free speech. There's one issue at Caleb that's again been
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Speaker 2: exposed this time of the war in Lebanon. Fifteen thousand
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Speaker 2: Australians live in Lebanon. Now. I guess the majority have
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Speaker 2: dual nationality and they haven't come home or they're so
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Speaker 2: far ignored. Repeated police for the government to leave because
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Speaker 2: obviously there's a war going on and could get a
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Speaker 2: lot worse soon, and that means it seems that we're
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Speaker 2: expected to evacuate them at some stage. I have listened to
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Speaker 2: the Foreign Minister.
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Speaker 7: Whilst we are doing what we can to prepare contingency arrangements,
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Speaker 7: the numbers of Australians in Lebanon are beyond the capacity
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Speaker 7: of the government to provide assistance to all.
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Speaker 2: Hell. Can you explain why taxpayers by politicians, they're on
45:41
Speaker 2: the hook. It's their responsibility. It's save people who haven't
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Speaker 2: saved themselves and who choose to live in such an
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Speaker 2: unstable country with their Australian parachute passport beside them.
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Speaker 12: No, I can't explain it because the federal government has
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Speaker 12: been warning for months that people should get out of Lebanon.
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Speaker 12: This isn't something new. Of course, the things have escalated
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Speaker 12: in the last few days, but the government has been
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Speaker 12: saying for months to get out of Lebanon. Now you
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Speaker 12: sort of end up in a rock in a hard
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Speaker 12: place because you don't want to be seen to be
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Speaker 12: the hard nosed government that says, oh, well, damn you,
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Speaker 12: you didn't leave, so we're not going to give you
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Speaker 12: any sort of humanitarian help to get out of there.
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Speaker 12: But the government has said that if push comes to shove,
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Speaker 12: they cannot get everyone out of there. If you choose
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Speaker 12: to remain in Lebanon at this point, that is your
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Speaker 12: choice and it is your right. But you shouldn't come
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Speaker 12: complaining later, as they probably will, that the government has
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Speaker 12: done nothing to help them. They've been trying to help
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Speaker 12: for months. If you haven't heeded that warning by now
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Speaker 12: that's your problem, or at least it ought to be.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they will be able to evacuate them, or
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Speaker 2: don't you worry. That's just trying to get them hurry up.
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Speaker 2: But they'll do as I've put in ferries or ships
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Speaker 2: to Cyprus and bring them out from Cyprus. Daniel. One
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Speaker 2: of the strangest things about climate activists says you probably
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Speaker 2: notice too, is that so many seem to change positions.
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Speaker 2: They're happy to destroy the countryside now to supposedly save
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Speaker 2: the planet. They'll stop a shop, they'll stop a factory,
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Speaker 2: they'll stop anything if it's going to disrupt the blind
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Speaker 2: moth or something. But they're going to let through transmission towers,
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Speaker 2: this time through forests near Tamworth to hook up more
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Speaker 2: wind farms. These towers will mean clearing paths of at
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Speaker 2: least one hundred and forty meters wide through Kowana countries,
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Speaker 2: as locals have confirmed with the study of Listen, there'll
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Speaker 2: be a lot more. Because we haven't canvas kneel in
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Speaker 2: the whole area. Why well, you miss some of that.
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Speaker 2: But what they've said, he said, was they've found about
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Speaker 2: thirty something koalas already without even looking long that might
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Speaker 2: be disrupted. Why a green campaign is now allowing such
47:58
Speaker 2: vanderdism of our nature.
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Speaker 17: It's all about the ideology of net zero. And whether
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Speaker 17: you're in Manu in Victoria or Mariba in Far North Queensland, Andrew,
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Speaker 17: the issues are the same. I mean, I've been talking
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Speaker 17: with you and your audience from many of these locations
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Speaker 17: around Australia where people in the bush are getting steamrolled
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Speaker 17: by the inner city elites. There's this massive devastation to
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Speaker 17: this wildlife habitat land. It's destroying their livelihoods. It's not
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Speaker 17: just an economic issue. It's their lives that are being
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Speaker 17: destroyed by this, by the solar factories, the concrete wind towers,
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Speaker 17: these two hundred meter transmission towers, and the high tension
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Speaker 17: high voltage transmission lines which are a fire hazard and
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Speaker 17: a danger. You know, we hear about these stories and
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Speaker 17: so you know it's about the ideology of nets area
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Speaker 17: that's blinding everybody to this consequence.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly correct, exactly correct, Daniel World Calibbon. Thanks to
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Speaker 2: your both. That's it from me. Next Sherry Marks good
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Speaker 2: note