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Sheryl Swoopes on playing MJ 1-on-1, Kobe vs LeBron, growth of the WNBA · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 3: Swoops come on, tell usop dude, it is okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you here. I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 2: just just a living legend herself. As before any questions,
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to give you your flowers.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Everything you do has been amazing r trendsetter, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the first one, one of the first WBA
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  Speaker 2: contracts ever.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, the contracts then were a little different than
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  Speaker 4: they are now.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like we love that as a kid, like as an
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  Speaker 2: NFL player, I know, like contracts are just like regular
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  Speaker 2: negotiations for you as a WNBA player at one point
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  Speaker 2: time to have to be like one of the first
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  Speaker 2: to get a contract, what how did that happen to
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  Speaker 2: be all just playing for free?
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  Speaker 4: First of all, let me just say like I am
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  Speaker 4: super honored to be on your show. I appreciate that,
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  Speaker 4: like here and you know fanatics fast where you could
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  Speaker 4: have had anybody. I am truly honored. But I will
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  Speaker 4: say this, when the WNBA first started in ninety seven,
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  Speaker 4: there really was no negotiating a contract. It was here's
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  Speaker 4: where your contract is, this is what we're gonna pay you.
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  Speaker 4: And we were just happy and excited to be able
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  Speaker 4: to have a league to play in.
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  Speaker 5: Period.
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  Speaker 2: So you was just like, I'll take whatever you give me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thanks, well, right like that, okay.
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  Speaker 5: But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: It was different because there there were a few of
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  Speaker 4: us who actually had playing contracts and marketing contracts, So
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  Speaker 4: the marketing contract, it supplemented what we didn't make playing.
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  Speaker 4: So I was I was fortunate enough to be one
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  Speaker 4: of those players that had both you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you without saying you was that guy. You were
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  Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah you were you were that, you were
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  Speaker 1: that lady? Yeah you were her?
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  Speaker 2: There we go, yeah Timothy hermity Yeah, okay, yeah that part.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what what didn't you do in
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  Speaker 1: your in your career?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you accomplished so much from being a four
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  Speaker 2: time WBA champion, a three time goal Olympic gold medalists,
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  Speaker 2: you know, three time w n B, A m VP,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Defensive Player of the Year. I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: haven't you done? What didn't you do in your career?
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  Speaker 2: Any any regrets like oh my gosh, I wish I
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  Speaker 2: would have can't say, give more buckets?
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  Speaker 1: He was the MVP.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, you know what I honestly said when
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  Speaker 4: I retired that I was ready to retire because there
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  Speaker 4: was no like, there was no challenge left for me
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  Speaker 4: as far as playing.
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  Speaker 5: No, like, I don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: I've done it all.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what, No, Here's why I say that,
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  Speaker 4: because as a competitor and you know this, right, Like,
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  Speaker 4: you always.
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  Speaker 5: Want to be the best.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, you want to be at the.
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  Speaker 5: Top of your game.
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  Speaker 4: So for me to win four championships, to win MVPs,
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  Speaker 4: to win a scoring title, to win Defense Player of
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  Speaker 4: the Year, to play in the Olympics, like I was
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  Speaker 4: ready for a new challenge. But also it got to
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  Speaker 4: a point to where it felt like a job. And
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  Speaker 4: so to me, I always said, when when I woke
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  Speaker 4: up every morning and dreaded having to go to the gym,
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  Speaker 4: then I knew it was time for me to retire.
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  Speaker 1: Man, so that just sounds like an off season for me.
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  Speaker 1: I dread going to the gym. I'm like, dang, I.
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  Speaker 5: Don't believe that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, you know, like off season,
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  Speaker 2: you live hard, you get to travel well, drink good,
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  Speaker 2: eat good, and then you look down You're like, this
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  Speaker 2: gut does not represent who I am, and then you
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  Speaker 2: gotta work it off.
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  Speaker 5: I'm I'm I'm still in my off season. You know
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  Speaker 5: what I said.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not here for that.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, as a competitor and especially when you're
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  Speaker 4: at the top of your game and like being a
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  Speaker 4: lead and every single day, twice a day in the
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  Speaker 4: off season, you're working out, you're in the gym, You're
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  Speaker 4: doing all the things to be at the top of
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  Speaker 4: your game. So I actually said, when I retired, I
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  Speaker 4: was so excited to not have to go and work
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  Speaker 4: out every day, to not have to be on a
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  Speaker 4: special diet. I said, for a year, I was gonna
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  Speaker 4: do whatever I wanted to do. I was gonna eat
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  Speaker 4: what I wanted to eat. I was gonna drink what
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to drink.
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  Speaker 5: For a year.
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  Speaker 4: So many years later, I'm still eating what I want
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  Speaker 4: to eat for.
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  Speaker 2: A year's Yeah, okay, you know, look, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: about their retirement life just yet, but I now understand
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  Speaker 2: the mentality.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just telling you it's hard.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait. I'ma be playing like pick a ball
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. So I'm not trying
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  Speaker 2: to hear it.
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  Speaker 5: Really, Hey, are you ready to retire? Huh?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely not? I said, when when three years from now,
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  Speaker 1: when Tyler Shunk is.
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  Speaker 5: Some good, good years ahead of you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Come on, I got I got an amazing team,
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  Speaker 2: and you said I am her.
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying you are him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so true, so true.
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  Speaker 2: So tell us what you're up to now and like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know, like you used to work for
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  Speaker 2: Nike and I was like, dang when she come in,
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  Speaker 2: I got to ask her for the Nike plug.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, what, what's you up to now?
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  Speaker 5: How do you know somebody? You know?
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  Speaker 4: For me just being able to continue to be around
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  Speaker 4: the game and mentor these young ladies.
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  Speaker 5: I love where the W is today.
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  Speaker 4: It's in a space where so many of us when
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  Speaker 4: the league started in ninety seven we wanted to see
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  Speaker 4: where it is right now but didn't know if we would.
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  Speaker 4: The fact that we now have not just female basketball players,
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  Speaker 4: but we have female athletes who are signing million dollar
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  Speaker 4: endorsement deals. True, Yeah, that's that's that's that's pretty crazy
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  Speaker 4: because I don't think any of us ever thought we
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  Speaker 4: would see that day. So other than that, I have
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  Speaker 4: a couple of podcasts. I have my own podcasts that
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  Speaker 4: we will actually be right here on the Dicks Sporting
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  Speaker 4: Good stage tomorrow.
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  Speaker 5: It's called levels to this.
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  Speaker 1: We got good levels because because it's.
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  Speaker 4: Levels to the stuff I won't say the other words
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  Speaker 4: levels to the stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely that we go through. You're also a commentator for
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  Speaker 1: the Athletes.
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  Speaker 4: To United or Athletes Limited yeah, which I enjoy doing.
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  Speaker 4: There's just so much talent out there right now, and
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  Speaker 4: unfortunately the W doesn't have not only enough teams, but
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  Speaker 4: doesn't have enough roster spots. So I love the fact
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  Speaker 4: that athletes unlimited, it's another pro league.
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  Speaker 5: It gives women an opportunity to stay here and play.
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  Speaker 4: Right, you have unrival, which gives women another opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: stay here and play and to make some money. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I love everything about where women's sports is headed right now.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'll say, you see girls get drafted. If they're
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  Speaker 2: not in the first round, you're able to get cut
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  Speaker 2: like immediately, which is wild because again, you know, football
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  Speaker 2: normally there's a development program the first, second, third, fourth round.
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  Speaker 1: You're normally safe. Women, it's it's getting now, it's getting now.
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  Speaker 1: Can you can you contend now?
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  Speaker 4: And you know, and to be honest with you, sometimes
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  Speaker 4: some of those that go in.
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  Speaker 5: The first round get gone.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, like but but I yes, there aren't enough teams,
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  Speaker 4: there aren't enough roster spots.
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  Speaker 5: But I also don't.
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  Speaker 4: Think people truly understand the talent level that's in the W,
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  Speaker 4: Like they're not just out there kind of going through
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  Speaker 4: the motions like they are competing, and it's very different
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  Speaker 4: going from college to the pros because now it's a job, right,
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  Speaker 4: so you have these women coming in from college that
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  Speaker 4: are trying to come and get your job for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And so trades that happened. You know, see my girl
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  Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham go from the Mercury. Now she's over Indiana,
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  Speaker 2: we pick up. So I'm not like, you know, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just it.
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  Speaker 4: Was, you know, the free agency, the moves, all the
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  Speaker 4: things that happened this offseason in the wh it was
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  Speaker 4: it was interesting. I would say that it was some
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  Speaker 4: very interesting moves that happened in the w and BA
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  Speaker 4: this offseason.
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  Speaker 5: That part, but I'm here for it.
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  Speaker 1: That being said, we have focusing on basketball again.
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  Speaker 2: Just thinking about two years ago we started implementing what
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  Speaker 2: is it, the Commissioner's.
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  Speaker 1: Cup, Right, how does how does that even work? Like
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  Speaker 1: I clearly don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: You've got you've got a finals, but you've got it
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  Speaker 2: in seasons.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, like it's played like as football.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, okay, they need something to play
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  Speaker 2: with because there's eighty two games or you know for
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  Speaker 2: the WBA there's a little less.
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  Speaker 1: But you were having in season playoff for a playoff
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  Speaker 1: to come up.
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  Speaker 5: In season tournament.
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  Speaker 1: There we go.
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  Speaker 4: So I actually believe the w started the Commissioner's Cup
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  Speaker 4: before the NBA started their inn season tournament. So I
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  Speaker 4: think the NBA looked at the Commissioner's Cup and said, oh,
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  Speaker 4: they may have something here, so let's try it. Right,
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  Speaker 4: It's it is different from what the men are doing.
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  Speaker 4: But what I love about it is, yeah, we don't
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  Speaker 4: play as many games, but they're still playing for a bag.
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  Speaker 5: Like you put some money on the line. They want
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  Speaker 5: to compete and play hard.
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  Speaker 4: And what I love about this year is you have
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  Speaker 4: Minnesota who's gonna try and defend their Commissioner's Cup title,
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  Speaker 4: playing against a new team in the finals, the Indiana Fever.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll just be reading a room for an afeast
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  Speaker 1: of the whole way. Come on, man like that.
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  Speaker 4: If I had to, if I got to vote, and
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  Speaker 4: I had to vote today, it's her.
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  Speaker 5: He is by far the m v P right now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know enough to call her feet, So she's
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  Speaker 1: in the feast of the met.
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  Speaker 5: M VP right now.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, just say, Minnesota, Lynks, that's just so great that
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  Speaker 2: they're sort of back in the revolution to I mean
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  Speaker 2: back in twenty eleven when I got drafted. You can,
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  Speaker 2: I can vividly remember being in Bristol and seeing the
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  Speaker 2: w n B A draft in Maya more being drafted
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  Speaker 2: that year, right, yeah, fifteen years later.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy, but they're they're they're back in contention. You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a full circle situation where the winner of
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  Speaker 2: the Commissioner's Cup gets five hundred grand.
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  Speaker 5: Plus they split it. Okay, yeah, I saw that number.
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  Speaker 1: I say, is that for every player?
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  Speaker 5: Man, they ain't got that kind of money?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, cool? Cool, Google realistic, realistic.
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  Speaker 5: Eleven players to split five hundred k.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, forty five, forty eight something around there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, plus plus another five bands and cryptocurrency which kept pooon.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you to get some bigcoin, but
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  Speaker 1: it could.
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  Speaker 5: Poom get to bitcoin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: We're not here to push that right now. Think about
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  Speaker 2: just what we're talking about. Who wait, who won the
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  Speaker 2: I'll say nd season tournament really doesn't lead to who's
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  Speaker 2: gonna win the championship though. NBA we had Milwaukee win
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  Speaker 2: the n season championship and they're not even no, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so it's not indicative of what what was coming up.
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  Speaker 2: I think Lakers won the n season championship and we
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  Speaker 2: know they didn't make it. Sorry, I'm a Laker hater
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  Speaker 2: for any fans out there.
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  Speaker 5: I'm the Laker fans right here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in New York. We should be safe because
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  Speaker 1: I'm a Laker hater for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I like, I don't say any Laker fans right here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you said when you said, uh, when you
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  Speaker 2: said the w n b A was going through was
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  Speaker 2: going through a movement, what did you mean by that
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  Speaker 2: when you say they had in the right direction?
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry I had to acknowledge her T shirt because
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  Speaker 5: I love that. I like that shot. I'm sorry none
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  Speaker 5: of earlier.
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  Speaker 2: You said WBA was going through a movement and you
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  Speaker 2: like where it was headed. When you said movement, what
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  Speaker 2: did you mean by that?
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  Speaker 1: Per se?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean listen when the.
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  Speaker 4: So I keep up with how old the league is
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  Speaker 4: because my son will be twenty eight in June.
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  Speaker 5: So when I gave birth to my son, it was
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  Speaker 5: the first game in the WNBA.
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  Speaker 4: And like I tell people this all the time, the talent,
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  Speaker 4: to me, the talent has always been good. The difference
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  Speaker 4: today is there are way more eyes on the league,
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  Speaker 4: way more eyes on the league, way more fans in
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  Speaker 4: the league. Just the competitiveness that these ladies are showing
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  Speaker 4: every single game, day in day out.
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  Speaker 5: I think when I.
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  Speaker 4: Say, it's not a moment, it's a movement, Like people
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  Speaker 4: are actually excited to watch and tune.
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  Speaker 5: In to the WNBA.
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  Speaker 4: Anytime you have seeing inn first take any of those
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  Speaker 4: leading off with something that has to.
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  Speaker 5: Do with the WNBA.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people would say, then we've made it,
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  Speaker 4: And I say, unfortunately, right, it takes things like that
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  Speaker 4: for people to talk about the WNBA, for people to say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: let me tune in, let me check it out. But
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  Speaker 4: I will say this, I love everything about where the
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  Speaker 4: game is, where it's headed. I love the competitiveness. I
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  Speaker 4: love the physicality.
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  Speaker 5: Of the game. Like that's a whole different conversation we
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  Speaker 5: can have.
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  Speaker 4: Like then, physical in the WNBA is nothing new, Like
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  Speaker 4: it's it's.
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  Speaker 5: It's always been that way.
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  Speaker 4: My question is why is it okay for the men
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  Speaker 4: to be physical but it's not okay for the women
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  Speaker 4: to be physical?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I've been watching games as far back as like
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  Speaker 2: Britney Grinder's rookie year almost said freshman year, so that
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  Speaker 2: it's make enough sense. But you know, like she's always
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  Speaker 2: been physical to play with. So I don't I don't
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  Speaker 2: know our Mercury basketball, we don't play that. We play
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  Speaker 2: physical out there, Mercury.
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  Speaker 5: What you're talking about today's Mercury. Yeah, I mean before
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  Speaker 5: Mercury right now? Now because both of them, do y'all
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  Speaker 5: have a T on your team? Now, y'all play physical absolutely?
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  Speaker 1: Then we had d T on the team too, like Diana.
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  Speaker 5: Who plays physical absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: But I would say this, I don't know if people
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  Speaker 4: and I'll say like the new fans, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if people truly understand the difference though, in being physical
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  Speaker 4: and being dirty, because it's different.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fine line. There is a difference, but there's
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  Speaker 2: a fine line. You think about the Cherry Pistons, bad
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  Speaker 2: boys back in the gap.
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  Speaker 1: Label them what they were.
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  Speaker 5: They were, they were dirty, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Cool, as long as you said it. I got I
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  Speaker 2: got people out there that I always ride from, like
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  Speaker 2: many exactly perfect. I'm a transition to cut to some
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  Speaker 2: fan questions.
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  Speaker 1: Knew he was coming in. Put it out. Ig Ig
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  Speaker 1: has a couple of responses. So I only have a
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  Speaker 1: couple of questions for you from the fans. Knock them
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  Speaker 1: out from the fans.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see what memory do you go back to most
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  Speaker 2: from your playing days where you need to pick me up.
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  Speaker 5: I used to be a buth hot no when I
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  Speaker 5: need to pick me up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I crossed over.
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  Speaker 4: No for me, like the fact that with Houston we
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  Speaker 4: won the very first four championships, like in a row.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care what sport it is, male, female, Like, like,
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  Speaker 4: that's hard to do.
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  Speaker 5: It's hard to win one championship, let alone.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: And then so when when I go back and I
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: think about my playing days, I absolutely have to think
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: about what we were able to do the first four
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: years in the w n.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: B A and and winning four championships.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I love that because I like, you still wear your
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: rhetoring the more.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: When I went to Super Bowl with the Saints, the
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: wedding ring goes and Upper places it, and I'm like,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm married, but you gotta watch my ring though,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Like I can't.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: You get the rings to go on different fingers.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: All right, So I just need to start off with
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: the one I don't. I don't know about multiple fingers.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Come on, come on, smister Ratler, come on, Tyler shuck.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: We can do it. Looking looking back, how surreal doesn't.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Feel to be in the position you are in now, Legend,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, multiple championship winner.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm very I'm very blessed.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: I will tell you that I don't know, like I
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: don't know if I ever thought basketball would.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Like change my life, right. I never set.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Out playing the game to be a legend, per se.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: I played the game because I loved it. There was
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: there was something about me and a basketball, and it didn't.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: Have to have anyone else on the court.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I just really enjoyed what I was able to do
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: with the basketball.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: I will say to to sit here today.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: And watch the game and watch the amazing, incredible talent
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: that continues to come through the league, I'm I'm I'm honored.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Like I'm honored that a lot of these players still,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: you know, reach out to me and they want to
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: talk to me. And you know, Asia a couple of
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: years ago, was like, how did you how tell me?
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: How did you do it? How did you repeat? It's
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: it's just a great feeling to know that you're you're
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: appreciated for what you gave to the game, and the
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: fans continue to.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Appreciate you for that.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, there are some who are like, who, well,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: they're just haters.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Haters.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: You know, you winning a championship at every level, high school,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you know, national champions at Texas Tech, multiple championships in
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: the w NBA. That competitive drive has that always been
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: there where you was always like the first in line,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: like at the front, like, yeah, I'll beat you here,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: like you have you know, like, tell me how either
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: tell me how you got your competitive drive?
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: How you got that? I need it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I grew up with with two I have two older
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: brothers and a younger brother, so I was the only
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: girl and I got beat up all the time.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: And you know, the only way my mom.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Would let me go do stuff is if I was
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: going to do it with my brothers. But I think
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: for me, it was just something that at a very
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: young age was instilled in me and watching my brothers,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: but also watching how just watching my mom. My mom
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: played softball. But I always wanted to be the best
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: like whatever I was doing, and I was never okay
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: with just being okay. So I always thought there was
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: somebody somewhere in this world that was working a little
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: bit harder than me, and that never sat right with
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: me because I wanted to be the absolute best at
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: everything I did.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I hear that part like this, That's why I enjoy
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: like those dog days of training when you're like you
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: got nothing left.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: And you're like, you know what, there's probably some little.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Nil talented kid out there grinding right now trying to
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: get a bigger bag. I'm gonna hit this last extra sprint.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: NIL very different.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm clearly.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Laughing at that part because they don't get it like
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: we used to. I'm not gonna lie to. NIL has
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: made the game softer, and.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I'm here for it. I'm like, oh, you got a adversity,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you're hurting, You're gonna transfer? Cool? No, I stuck mine
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: out about that. I love it.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I pay the players now, they just pay them what
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: they owe, Like I hate that I had to struggle
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: through college and like become a bouncer and become a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: peer advisor.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: There was other jobs, Like if I could have just focused.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: On football, I would have loved it, But at the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: same time, it also defined what I what I felt
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: like I needed.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: But do you do.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: You think, because I love it too to a certain degree,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: do you think it's changed the.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Game, Because there's always there's always been.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: You've always had teammates that did it for the love
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: of the money, or the love of the adolation, the
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: exactly the adilation, the adoration, the statistics of it. All
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: that drop statistics long before they drop hey, I'm actually
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a good team player, like man, I dropped twenty oh
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: man a masco of four touchdowns. But they don't say hey,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: like I made my teammates better, or they always like,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: oh man, I hate bruh. Like you know what I'm saying.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I went for two tuddies whatever it is. I was like,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I got this contract coming up. You can feel the
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: money grabbers, the attention grabbers, but I want real football players.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: And then il sort of like weans that out. It
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: shows you who you are at eighteen nineteen twenty. You
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: give a kid, I'm not gonna put nose on it,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: but you see you seet on numbers at getting you
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: get a kid like that. It shows me if you're
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: willing to work or you're working for the money. If
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: you're working for the money, take it and go.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Weed them out now.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: But if you're here for the game, the money is cool.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I love that I can take care of my mom.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I love that I can take care of my family.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: That's great. But I'm here because I want to be here.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I'm here because I feel like I can be the best,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: and I want to be the best, and to be
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the best, I don't need I don't need bread. I
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: appreciate the breads and I have to worry about feeding
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the film. But I'm here for the sacks. I'm here
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: for the winds. I'm here for making my teammates better
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: and hoping that they want to be like me. Because
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: if I'm out here running my ad, their air off,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: poster ear off, if I'm grinding the way I am,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I want you to see it and be like, dang,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that's what he's doing to get to where he got,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: that's how he's all pro Well, Dang, if I he's.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Doing that, I can beat him. No you can't. And
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: if you can't, come show me.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: And I still like I have that, like I need that,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm trying to steal that in the next wave
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: of kids.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: You don't see it like that. They're like, oh yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a big dog.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but that but you're talking about as a professional.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: But to me when I think about nil, right, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: it might feel a little different on the women's side
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: because now when it comes to recruiting, like one of
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: the first questions is how much money you got?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I need my money?
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: So that is that from the kids or the parents?
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Oh? I think it's both. I definitely think it's the parents.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: It's like, no, you're gonna go over here because they're
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: gonna pay you five hundred thousand more than this school and.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: They don't care about playing time.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Is it a good fit for you? Are you a
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: good fit for them? How is the coaching staff? I
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: just I do. I honestly do think the nil situation
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: it has changed the collegiate game.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, there's there's no they're pro ams. I
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: mean they're really they're really pro. They're getting paid to produce.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: So so how so how excited go bears?
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah?
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: So?
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: How how excited do you think it makes the players
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: who are making all this money in college now they're
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: going pro right?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Taking a pay cut sometimes?
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, especial especially on the women's side.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: But I mean, the odds of you making out. Are
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: you doing what you're doing that's completely different, Like you
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: had everything stacked against you, and yeah, when you came out,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: everybody was like she could be she really play the NBA.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Seryf soops is like that, stay tuned, we'll be right back.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: You played. You played a one on one game with
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. I still want to talk about.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: It, like he played one on one game with me.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Continue and that's why she's her. Okay, no, let.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: You Michael Jordan was my role model growing up.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Let let me say this. I do not now.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I do not think I could have played in the NBA.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: It's it's just it's not to take anything away from
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: like the game and the talent, but it's it's different.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Like man, y'all are just built different than we are,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Like you're naturally bigger, stronger, taller, all those things, not
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: more skilled, but all the other things as you are.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: But Michael Jordan for me was everything like he is
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: my goat. He's yes, he will forever be my goat.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: But what what I really appreciated about mj was it
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: didn't matter if you were his teammate or not, what
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: sport he was playing, like he was coming for your neck.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Just very competitive, and if you watch the documentary, you
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: know a lot of people were like, dang, I had
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: no idea.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: He was like I was out.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: There taking money from the little little assistant guards facts.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: You know, because Mike had the mentality, does that mean
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: you played for money?
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Play for money. I ain't had no money to be playing. Now.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: We played for pride. We played for pride.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: But I just I left his mindset of if you're
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: not helping me, you're in the way, right Like I'm
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: trying to go get a championship every single year, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: whether that's a team made or an opponent, you're in
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: my way.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: And that was never okay.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: But for me to have an opportunity to meet him,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: oh gosh, that was so many years ago and play.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: One on one with him.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Is absolutely at the top of my damn. I can't
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: believe I did that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: You said he played with you, which let me know
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you won. That's a bragging right right there, Like you
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: run me.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: That didn't Okay, I didn't.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: He did try to dunk on me, though I didn't.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: That happened, okay, cool, cool that pride. No, I just
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: grabbed him out of the air and just pulled him
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: out of the air, like, Mike, I love you and I.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Don't want to hurt you. Don't do this.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: The pride. The pride would not let that happen.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: All right, did y'all? Do y'all at least do like
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a jersey swap, Like.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: I got his T shirt.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I got his North Carolina one of his favorite North
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Carolina T shirts.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Great, okay, yeah, look that's what I'm saying, because it
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: was like, fine, No.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: That thing that makes a person it is Michael Jordan.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: You said he's your goat.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: It is Michael Jordan. What's your goat?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Huh what? I'm sponsored by Jordan?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: So I will only have one answer, Thank you Michael
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: for all the goods up over the years.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will. I will never say anything.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: Other otherwise, who's your second goat?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Because I didn't get to watch two three growing up.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I watched four or five at the Wizards, so I
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: saw the.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Tail end like I didn't so his farewell game.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't see it like I saw Kobe's farewell game
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: where he dropped sixty and I'm a Laker hater. I
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know, I see Lebron at forty
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: still dunking on Cats, is doing Yeah, he's like forty five,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: playing with this kid like yaming on Cats and still
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: one of the better guys on his team. So I like,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I mean second place, Yeah, second place is what's Lebron
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: leaves the Lakers. I'll say it's Lebron. I'm a Laker hater,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: so I just I can't anoint the Lakers cat I
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: say here and Steve Nash, I'm clearly a Suns fan.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I'm jaded, and that's okay. Yeah, Chris Paul worms Yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: for sure for impact, for impact alone, nobody has ever
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: had more hype around and delivered more like you. Normally
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: you're a number one overall pick. You're like, yo, he's
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: gonna be a consensus Hall of Famer. But we've been
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: saying that about Lebron since he was like fourteen and
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: everything that we was like, he's gonna win a championship
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: in Cleveland. I'm sure he didn't do it the first time,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: but he rounded back. Yeah, Hey, you know what I
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: got for you this dub. Yeah, and so like once again,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: once he leaves the Lakers, I'll be I'll be back
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: on the he's the second greatest of all time, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: we can argue years and years around. Once he finishes
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: in the gold conversation, he can't be a goat because
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: he hasn't finished yet. Once we finish, say that again,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: like he's still current, so like, once he finishes and
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: then he like established, we know the whole story of
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: the of the legacy, we'll talk about it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: That's so so that that's what I think. I think
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: we use the term go way too.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Oh we throw that are easy, like.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Everybody's a goat nowadays.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: And generational talent, the bane of my the crooks of
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: my bane, like just yeah, like, don't throw generational out there.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Generational is once every generation, once every twenty to thirty,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: like a cycle like fifteen to twenty years. You can
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: be generational, but we throw that out there a lot
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: And my thing is, you can be a really good player,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: but if you're to your point, if you're still playing
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: the game, I don't know how you can be the goat.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Right, greatest of all time? Currently, Good to see you, silent,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: oh man, you.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Ac to see your silentce. That was good.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know, I think at this is
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: a great time I thought about this. I was like,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I was looking at your shoes, looking at my shoes,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: but you used to have your own signature shoe.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: I did, did I did Swoop?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah? What is that? What does that feel like? I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: ain't even had them. I ain't even have my own
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: color way before.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I've got like I've got like Jordan cleet pees, but
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: pees are not your own cleat.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: It's on a one, it's on a twelve, it's on
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: But people.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Don't People don't understand that.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Like when you talk about signature shoes and having your
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: own shoe, that means it's your shoe with your name.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: So at the time when I got my shoe, it
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: was Michael Jordan and Cheryl.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Swoops indeed, And.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it was like a surreal moment for
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: me because I never, like growing up, I never said
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: someday I'll have my own shoe. That wasn't something that
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: was on my bucket list or something that I wrote down.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: But I have to say, being not only being the
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: first female WNBA basketball player to have a signature shoe,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: but to be the first black female there's something special
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: about at and now thirty years later, we have the
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: second black woman in Asia Wilson and her a ones
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: for me to still be around to see it, and
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: to me, what makes this so special and different is
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: it's not just a shoe, Like Asia has an entire line.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: She has the flip flop, she has the leggings, the shorts,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: the hoodies, the T shirts, the all the.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Things she has the amazing commercial.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I just love to see how far the game has come,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: how far it's grown, and the fact that the shoe
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: is made big enough for men to be able to
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: wear it. When when Nike did my shoe back in
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: nineteen ninety seven, they only made it up to a
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: women's size eleven, so men couldn't wear the shoe. But
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: it was just such an incredible moment and a special
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: moment to do something out of the box that had
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: never been done before. And now to see how far
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: we've come with so many females now having their own
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: signature shoe, not a pe, but their own signature shoe,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: right like the growth of.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: The game, it's we're just in a good place.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I'll say it sellout crowds now, it's it's a fun time.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I remember going to games when I was younger, it
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: wasn't like that. And now that I can bring the
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: whole family, you know, now it's it's very family friendly
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: to be a to be a to be a beans
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: you know, don't do this, we'll talk about you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: but that's okay, Like it's very family like if they want,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: like they want families to be there. Now they want
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: the game to be more integrally like inclusive of of like, oh,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: these girls are getting it and let's highlight these women.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And now I mean probably like prominent.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Social media has helped in a large way, sure, for sure,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: but it's also just like now you know your actual players,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: like we could talk about multiple players instead of like,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: oh I know Ryl, I know who else I know,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Like there's like, instead of a Marquee player, now you
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: know a team.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Well, it's it's everything from from social media. So fans
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: feel like they have a connection with you, like fans
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: feel like I know who you are through social media.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: But then it's also you bring your fan base from college,
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: so they're gonna follow you. But to me, one of
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: the biggest differences besides social.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Media is the games are now on.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Television, They're in places where you can find them easily.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Like back in the day when I played, we were
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: on Lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: Don't la okayan.
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  Speaker 2: Like I gotta, I gotta, I got a grandma. We
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: susedd we should say a Lifetime. You know that was
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: all where all her movies came on Lifetime or Hallmark Originals,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: you know, like it was that was that was that era.
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  Speaker 4: Listen and I'm like, we went from Lifetime to ESPN, ABC,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: ESPN two. Now we are on Ion, so you can
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: get some you can get your Chicago PD and then
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: you can go watch some w n B.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: A see. That's Look, that's how much the game has evolved.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, speaking of evolution and just reactions to that
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: new question would could be hot incoming. I love doing
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: this live because I need to know what do you
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: think about this picture?
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Coming up? Look up? Look up behind you? Yeah, go
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: ahead check it out. I come on, Ma, I'm just saying,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: how do you how do you? How do you feel
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: about this picture? Yeah?
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Come on man?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Nostalgia nostalgia dons Daley.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: You know that was a Caroli head coach before or
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: after the ninety six.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Eleve just obtaining another goal, hanging out with Martin.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: It was a fun time. I would tell you that much.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: It was a fun time to hang out, and they
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: still show it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: I said that you see it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Huh, that's what I'm saying.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: You was on Martin Man like in the nineties, that big,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: that's that's legendary. Yeah, you didn't think you see that today? No,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: how to make you feel you remember that one?
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: It took me back a little bit. I every time
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I see different pictures, the first thing I look at
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: is my hairstyle, and I'm like, what was I thinking
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: in that picture?
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: But that that hairstyles?
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Alright, Yeah, that's why I didn't want to look I
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: was like, what picture is this gonna be?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You know? Fine?
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I love your hair, by the way, I appreciate it.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I hate it, but like you hate it, you don't
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: have to love every hairstyle you do.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I was.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I was on the other cusp of cutting it off,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what I was watching.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I was like three episodes into the House of Dragons
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: and you know, Corlis with Valeria.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Came through and I was like, hell yeah, brother, I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: was like, how do we do that? And I was
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: like I don't.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: So I went to the white wife. I was like,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I was like, you got a hair dresser, right, and
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: she was like she was like yeah. I was like,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, let me do that, and so we
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: bleased it and then and then I was like I
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: don't like this, and then we were platinum.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: She's like, I was like, plantinum silver. I was like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: come on, I want to write a dragon.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: I appreciate that it looks.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. So when you talk
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: about you didn't like your hairstyle, Martin, I was like,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: what do you mean?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Like you?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I'm here, so like, can we bring back the picture?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Can we bring back this picture? You tell me what
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I missed on this, this hairstyle? What you mean you
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: was glowed? Unless Martin roasted you? Like he roast you
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: for this?
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: So like, okay, but there there are some pictures out there.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: That didn't not that the episode you had your girls
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: with you, there's Martin. Martin's roasted everybody back in the
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: gay Did you roast him?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Did he roast you? Do you remember the episode? Was there?
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Was there good? Was there a good dinner? After no?
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: We hung out? It had a good time. That's all
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: I'll say.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Wow, was it actually shot in Detroit or was that
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: shot in la like.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Shot in l A.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we just hung out.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: We actually hung out at his house like all of us.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: We had a good time.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: The funniest part about shooting this was and if if
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: any of you have seen the episode so like Cole, yeah,
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: completely went off script when he was guarding me.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: If you remember that party was up top of the No.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: He actually no, he actually licked me in my ear
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: and nowhere was that.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: In the strip.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody like and seen lack Cheryl's like
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: instead of instead of a land Stevenson.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Wow, he literally licked.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Me in my ear and was talking to me and
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: I was like.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Switch, give me Martin if you don't stop.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: And they're like, oh, that's so good, that's so good.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Keep doing that.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's not right, it's in my ear.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: It was, but it was a lot of fun with
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Cole and Tommy and Martin.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: And Tommy who still don't know who Yeah, I say
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: recipes Tommy, but we still don't know.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: If you ever had a job, yeah, you know, like yeah, okay,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: He didn't. They said he didn't. He didn't have a job.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: He always had money though, fast always have money. We'll
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: shoot being in the Hall of Fame, I hope one
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: day get there. You got you got any advice or uh,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: you know why you were giving your Hall of Fame speech?
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: What did you Just like.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I said, do you have any of the giving like
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame speech, the whole the you know,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the grandeur of it all, Like you've accomplished so much.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've accomplished a lot.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: No, I think you know, the Hall of Fame is
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: like it's it's the best of the best. It's not
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: the women's it's not the it's the Hall of Fame.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: It's the best of the best.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: And even in preparation for my Hall of Fame speech,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I had all of these incredible things that I wanted
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: to say, and once I got up there, I realized
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: that for me it was gonna mean more coming from
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: my heart, Like it was just so many people along
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: the way, not necessarily on the basketball court, but just
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: so many people along the way who helped me get
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: through life right tough times, good times, who always held
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: me down, always had my back. But for me, my
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame speech was really easy because my mom
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: got diagnosed with colon cancer and the doctor told her
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: that she wouldn't be able to make the trip with
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: me to the Hall of Fame, and she said watch me,
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: so I'm not gonna cry. But that was the last
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: trip that my mom went with me on before she passed,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: So it was just a full circle moment for me
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: to have her sitting front row, knowing what she was
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: dealing with. And my mom had always been my toughest critic,
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: my biggest fan, my biggest supporter, So to be able
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: to share that moment with her, which is the best
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: moment ever. To share that moment with her and make
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: sure she understood how important she was in my life
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: and the role she played in my life and raising
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: me to.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Be the woman that I am.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: I really don't care what else I said in that speech,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: because that moment for me was very important.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Absolutely shout out to the moms out there.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Saying, right, the people that have always been in your
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: corner of the friends, the family that uplift you, the
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: athletic trainers that took care of us when we were broken.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: You know, the all.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Of it, the coaches and even the coaches that didn't
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: think they had an impact that actually did.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: You know, even the coaches I didn't like.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I won't go that far. There's a coach I don't
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: like it.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I'm okay, if if he tripped or fell in a puddle,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't step on his head, but I wouldn't help
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: him up.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I probably like add water to the side.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: In a way, you know, in a very extreme type
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: of way.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: But I probably had a couple that I felt that
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: way about.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: But it's only one in my entire time.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Like, I'm like, who was it?
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about it when I retire. Yeah.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, In fact, I come to you and be like this,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: my lover here tried me in so many different ways.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, please do.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: I'm going to hold you to that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: This has been nothing short of amazing. So, by the way,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: she was inducted in the twenty sixteen Hall of Fame
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: class had guys like Shock Shaquille O'Neill, y'ao mean, Alan Iverson,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: so like with a whole bunch of him, she was
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: her you know.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: Hope I like that.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: I said.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Then in twenty sixteen that my class was the best class.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I think my draft class twenty eleven was the best
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: class draft class ever.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: You're supposed to think that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's validated, it's validated to think that. But
• 41:30
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• 41:32
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• 41:33
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