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Resource Report - 40 Hub City Mission & Bethel Church · Resource Report

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Hello and welcome to Resource Report, where we share
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with you important information about local nonprofits
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and resource organizations that support the community
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we share, produced by Pathways to Agency. I am
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your host, Rainmaker. Today's guests are Dan
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and Rebekah Metteer with Hub City Mission and
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Bethel Church of Centralia. Here's Dan and Rebekah.
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I am here at KAOS Radio Station with Hub City
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Mission and Dan Metteer and Rebekah Metteer. How
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are you guys doing? We're doing great. Yeah,
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doing super well. Can you please reintroduce
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yourselves, your position, and how did you come
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to be here with Hub City Mission? Yeah, absolutely.
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My name is Dan Metteer. I am one of the pastors
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at Bethel Church in Chehalis. I've been, we've
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been at Bethel Church for about a year, and when
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we arrived last year, they said, hey, this is
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Hub City Mission, and we'd love you to take an
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active part in it. And I'm Rebekah Metteer. I'm
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also one of the pastors at Bethel Church in Chehalis.
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And one of my roles is overseeing benevolence
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and just community needs. And so Hub City Missions
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is one of those big parts of what we do as part
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of our pastoral role. Yeah. Thank you for sharing
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that. What is the history of the Bethel Church
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and then also the Hub City Mission at the Bethel
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Church? Yeah, well, our church has been in existence
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for over 75 years, which is really amazing. But
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as far as Hub City Mission goes, we have a second
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campus, which is actually in Centralia, right
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near Centralia College. And the church at the
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time was called Destiny Christian, and they recognized
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there was a large community of underprivileged people with
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different needs. And so they opened up an overnight
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shelter for a while, especially through the winter
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months. And after that, decided that there was
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a real need for food. And so that's been going
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on for quite a while. And Destiny Christian Church
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was struggling. And so Bethel came alongside
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and said, how can we help you not close your
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doors? And so we kind of entered into that space
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there as well, kind of merged in a way those
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church bodies and said, let's keep Hub City Mission
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open. We really see the need for that, especially
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a lot. of our seniors. And so just opening the
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doors for anybody and all people. You don't need
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papers. You don't need ID or anything like that.
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We just want to feed people who are in need.
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Yeah, the organization that we inherited, Hub
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City Mission, this has now been 10 or 15 years,
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it used to be called Loaves and Clothes. We focused
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on giving food and clothing. And what we've done,
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and in several ways, is just sort of... to navigate
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and steer to find the best way we can serve the
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community. Rebekah mentioned the overnight, the
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cold weather shelter. Well, in our neighborhood,
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the Salvation Army is doing an incredible job
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of providing an overnight shelter, and they have
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a great organization. And so what we found is
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the clothing, there's other organizations who
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are meeting that need. What are the mission,
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vision, and goals? Yeah, so the mission of Hub
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City Mission is to mobilize the body of Christ
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to meet community needs in three tangible ways.
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And we use the term Body of Christ. That's a
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term we get from the Bible. And what we mean
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by that is the people who are part of our church,
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but not just our church, but all of the churches
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in the area. And we don't really draw distinctions
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between that. We have people serve from other
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churches or even people who are not a part of
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a church but are about the mission. of showing
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love to our community. And so the tangible ways
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are what we call The Table, which is a weekly
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hot meal that we serve on Tuesdays. The Pantry,
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which is dry food, or not necessarily dry food,
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but grocery -type food, meats, breads, vegetables.
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And the Bike Shop, which is a unique aspect of
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our ministry. Yeah, and then we also do Community
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Dinners as well, which is another ministry of
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Bethel Church. The newest part of what we're
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doing is actually the bike shop, even though
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we've been doing that, I think, for 10 years.
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The way this came out was there was a gentleman
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in church or a group of people in the church
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who just said, hey, there are people around who
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are just struggling for really basic transportation.
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They just set up a 10 by 10 canopy tent out on
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the corner and set up- I think it was once a
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week or twice a week at first and just said,
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yeah, if you have a bike that needs some repair.
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Bring it on down. We'll help fix it up for you.
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Well, it just happened to be out of a corner
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where the Centralia City Hall could see it. And
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they saw the consistency. And they saw these
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people giving of their time, volunteering, coming
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to serve. And it grew. And more and more people
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were served. More and more people were taking
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advantage of it. And they said, hey, we see what
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this is doing for our community. You're allowing
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the opportunity for people to get to services,
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get to work. Would you want an indoor space
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and we said tell us more uh they had a pool a
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public pool that had been closed down it was
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an outdoor pool that they weren't doing anything
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with so now for several years we've had an indoor
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space uh at what used to be the Centralia Pool
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where we're able to serve even more and like
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Rebekah said, there's a lot of bikes there that
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are available for people who need one. Yeah yeah,
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So thank you, so it looks like we're getting into
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the services now. So, uh, so what else can we know
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about that bike shop? Let's continue with the
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bike shop. Yeah! Yeah, so so much. You can either come
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in with your bicycle that needs fixing up and
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volunteers, who are very capable, will fix your
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bike up and get you back on the road. Or if you
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find you just need a new bike overall because
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transportation is difficult, you can come in
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and get a free bike. And there are hundreds of
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bikes there that people from our church, people
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from the community donate on a regular basis.
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And you can come pick out. a bike and they will
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service that bike and get it all set for you.
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There are people in the community who can afford
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to get their bike fixed so they will also come
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in and pay whatever they can to get their bike
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fixed and that goes back into the funding of
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helping more people get bikes and get on the
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road. It's open twice a week. It's open on Saturdays
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and Tuesdays 10 to 2 and, like Rebekah said, it's
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all volunteer run, people give their time and
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the amazing thing is the faithfulness of these
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volunteers, they love serving there, they love
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doing it in fact, uh right now they're saying,
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hey we don't really need any more volunteers
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don't send any more people we're getting pretty
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cramped in here, uh, they show up every time, there's
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no heat in the building, so they do put a space
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heater in there in the in the winter time, but
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they still show up every single time. It's just
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been really fun to be a part of the life of our
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community. And I think that's something unique
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about Bethel Church, and people say this a lot,
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is you guys are so community -oriented. Yeah,
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you're everywhere we look. Yeah, we don't want
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church to just be in the walls of the church.
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We don't feel like that ever was the purpose.
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The purpose is to go out in the community and,
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like Dan said, really be hands and feet for people.
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Awesome. You know, whoa, back up. I have so many
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questions. Great. Yeah. So, so first of all,
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okay. First of all, kids bikes. Do y 'all have
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kids bikes? Lots of kids bikes. Great. Second,
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it sounds like it's like pay what you can. Is
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it set up like a sliding scale, or do y 'all have
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like a... a donation box or like, what.. how is
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that set up? They'll uh give an estimate for the
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work say this is kind of what we're thinking
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and um it's very nominal fee because the space
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is is given to us and the the.. our employees are volunteers,
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um so they try to be fair and reasonable but
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also propagate and keep it going, um but you know
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it's... it is pay what you can, and if they understand
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that it's a need where somebody can't contribute
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they'll say no problem um so you do kind of receive
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in a sense a bill but the bill would be a fraction
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of what you pay at a bike shop and it's not the
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point you know if somebody really can't pay we
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don't hold them to that it's a suggested amount
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that's right This is what this would cost. And
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if you can cover any of it, that's fabulous.
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But if not, no worries. That's right. Okay. Yeah. Rad.
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Let's talk about the table ministry and the pantry.
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Yeah. So they are very different from each other.
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So the table is hot food served every Tuesday
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from 11 a .m. to 12 .30. And yesterday was a
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Tuesday, and it was packed in there. Yes, we
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didn't even have an extra seat. We had to bring
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in more seats, and the one thing I love about
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this, is for this particular ministry, we don't
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actually use government food for this because
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we have these incredible cooks, people who just
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want to use what they've been given, which is
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a lot. of cooking and they want to serve the
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community. So we have an incredible team of people
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that plan menus. They go shopping. They give
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of their own funding. People who give to Bethel
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Church, that goes to fund and buy meals. We've
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got an incredible menu that's hot cooked, homemade
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every single Tuesday. And then the doors open
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at 11 o 'clock. And I would say that is a much
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larger portion of our homeless community that
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come in. And sometimes they can get little things
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at the door. Yesterday, there were just basic
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needs, toothbrushes and shaving, you know.. things
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like that. And then a hot meal. And then we just
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get to sit down with people and hear their story.
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And that story is so important. It's so central
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to who we are, just to hear the life journey
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that people are on and how we can pray with them,
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encourage them, even share our story. Many of
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the people there have been through similar situations.
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A lot of our guests are really struggling with
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drugs and alcohol, as you can imagine. And, uh,
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my dad was a drug dealer in prison and met Jesus
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there and changed his whole life around. So,
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you know, I have a real heart to... I know that
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people can get help and I know they want that.
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You know, um, uh, a lot of our guests that come
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in are just looking for some hope and a way out,
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but it is difficult. Yeah. So we recognize that
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the journey is long sometimes. It's all, it's
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all, volunteer run and uh we're we're the only
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staff uh connected to that and they they kind
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of run their own uh leadership team and and they
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do a great job. Awesome, awesome! And then uh, the
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so the pantry. Yeah the pantry is very different
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uh it's a very a different environment different
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setup and a different clientele as well. So, Pantry
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is for people who want to stock up their pantry.
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And so twice a month, 9 a .m., we open up our
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doors and usually there's a line almost around
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the corner. And we try to encourage people to
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say, hey, we'll be here till 10. You'll get food.
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You don't need to show up an hour early, but
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people still, you know, they want to get there
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and get in early. And it is amazing. We almost
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always have meat to give them, at least a pound
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of frozen meat. We have dairy almost always.
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We often have eggs. The selection of fruits and
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vegetables is always incredible, and I love
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the resources that are available when we're able
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to make the connections. Oftentimes, people are
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allowed to take more fruits and vegetables than
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they can even carry. The pantry is a lot of fun,
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and again, we have a lot of people want to come
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out and volunteer for that. And there are a lot
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of people on disabilities that come, so a lot
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of walkers and canes, and it can be difficult.
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Electric wheelchairs. It can be difficult to
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carry the groceries. You're standing in line,
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so we have a whole team of people and young people
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who will carry your box to your car or walk you
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down the block. We've got some people who ride
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their wheelchair from their local apartment.
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And so we'll even help them back, you know, to
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where they need to go. We also have an organization
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of delivering food to people who can't get out
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of their... Yeah, like shut in. Yeah. So currently
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we have, I think, 49, 47, somewhere in there.
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that we deliver to the doorstep. Oh, wow. And
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it's great. We do try to make sure that people
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are really in a situation where they can't get
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out, partly because we have limited resources
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for delivery drivers. But not just that, but
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they're able to get more food if they come. The
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box food is usually non -perishable food for
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some understandable reasons. But if they are
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able to come, they can get that meat and dairy
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and fruits and vegetables. Sounds like a fabulous
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food bank y 'all have going on there. It's great.
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I have never been this closely involved with
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a food bank. I've served with food banks. But
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once you see the operation that goes into giving
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this much food away, it's not once a month, twice
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a month. It's every week, several times a week.
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We've got a moving truck that's going, forklifts,
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pallets. I think we probably have over 150 volunteers
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in the organization. Most of those serving. regularly
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every month. We give twice a month, second and
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fourth Saturday of the month at 9 a .m. Let me
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say this, too, as we talk about the Pantry. One
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of the things that was really an unexpected benefit,
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there's a pet store right next door to our Hub
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City Mission. And when they get punctured bags
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of dog food or cat food or extras, what we found
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was when people can have dog food or cat food
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and not have to buy that, which can be very expensive,
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then you do have more resources for yourself.
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So if anybody does have connections with dog
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food or cat food. Shout out to Three Dog Night.
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Yeah, Three Dog Night in Centralia.
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It's so awesome when we can partner
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with her. It's a huge benefit. And do y 'all
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work with any of the other food banks in the
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area? We work with them... actually, I just want
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to shout out- The Chehalis Food Bank Coalition
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does an incredible job resourcing food banks
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all over. And they do some good stuff. But we
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also partner with an organization called Footsteps
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of Hope, which puts food in local schools, elementary,
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junior high, and high schools for kids to get
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food during the week. And so what we do is Footsteps
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of Hope, once we kind of go through our... our
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Food Give, there's often a lot left over and
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they come and they pull up a van, a truck, and
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we load it all in there and then Paula and Footsteps
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of Hope, they distribute that out to the schools
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all over Lewis county so we have a much wider
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reach um but the long -term plan for them is
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that they'll get connected with the resources
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that are available in Lewis county with Northwest
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Harvest with the Food Bank Coalition, the emergency
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food assistance program and be able to get uh
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directly served to their warehouse as well, but
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we do partner with them right now. Yeah. Awesome!
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Wow, that's amazing great networking! What I really
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love about these three different things, the
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bike shop, the food pantry, and the table ministry,
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that you come to get your bike fixed and there's
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going to be food. Yeah. Every time. Like the days coincide.
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That's right. You come on Tuesday for your bike,
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you've got food on Tuesday. You come on Saturday
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for your bike, you've got food on Saturday. And
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I just think that's just such a fabulous combo.
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Yeah, and it is a lot of fun. I think of a story,
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we had a ninth grader who his he was biking to
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him from school and i don't know why he was available
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at midday on a Tuesday, but he came over maybe
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school was out that day to get his bike fixed,
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and you could tell he was hungry, uh and so Hey
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you want, you want to get some lunch? And he was
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like, oh yeah, okay, sure.. I wasn't sure about the the
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table, and I was able to walk over with him... It's
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just a block across to our table ministry and
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sit with him, not just have him get a meal,
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but over a meal, you can talk. And I got to hear
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his story and what he was going through, and some
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of the ways that we were able to help him long
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-term and build that relationship. And it was
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a lot of fun. There's a lot to be said for personal
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connection. Yeah. Thank you. Also, this is an
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important question many people would like to
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know. What about food allergies? How do y 'all
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accommodate that? Like non -dairy, gluten -free,
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vegan? Yeah, you mean at the hot meal at the
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Table Ministry? Any of it. Yeah. Obviously, they
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get to pick what they want when they go through
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the grocery line. And partly we're limited to
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what food we do get in shipments that come in.
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But there is like different kind of powdered
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milks. And if you're dairy, allergic to dairy,
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there's a lot of other options to pick from,
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but there isn't probably the variety that we
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would love to have if you had a really severe,
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especially gluten allergy. But there are days
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when we have plenty of gluten -free pasta, but
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that is really dependent on the food sources
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that come into us. Right, and you never know
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when that will be. It's just sort of show up
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and see what you get. Yes, but you will always
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leave with something you can eat. The food selection
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is always very good. Yes, there's a huge variety.
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But that's always a difficult thing. Even Dan
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and I, we served in kids' ministry for 15 years,
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and boy, trying to figure out snacks for 600
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kids, you know, and some of them with severe
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allergies. It was like, OK, it's got to be nut
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free, dairy free, gluten free. You know, it is
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difficult to do that. So but it's great to get
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to know people and their needs so that we can
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have someone kind of shadow them and and help
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read labels if needed to kind of figure that
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out. And then at Hub City Mission, it's funny,
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actually, that's never come up with our homeless.
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community... At the Table, yeah, there's a rotation
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of meals that we go through, kind of four of our
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mainstays and then once in a while we'll put
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in another one but I think over time they probably
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kind of figured out what meets those needs and
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what works of course we're not a gluten -free
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kitchen or some of those more severe allergies
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are tougher. I think that probably what we've
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done is kind of found solutions that work, that
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we go this, this, this, and this, and those are helpful
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and working okay. Yeah we don't serve any
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shellfish or anything like that to worry about,
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which is helpful. Yeah and often uh most of
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the time when when you're in that great of a
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need when you're houseless you know you you you
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don't have- you don't get to, you know like, oh
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there's food- You got to eat it, whether it's
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something that you can eat or not. Right. I
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feel for people who are, you know, in that situation
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where they don't have the ability to have what
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they should have. Absolutely. Yeah. And I mean, that's,
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again, kind of back to story is so important
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to us, not just faces or numbers of people that
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we feed. When you get to know the people, then
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you can start looking for those opportunities
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to get more for what the variety of your community
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needs. Right. And I mean, there have been times
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when someone's standing in line and we hear,
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you know, their shoes got stolen last night and
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one of our volunteers will run down to visiting
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nurses thrift store and get shoes while they're
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waiting in line to bring them back. You know,
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so it's like, I think if somebody really had,
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especially a child in need, I mean, there's no
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doubt one of our volunteers would probably go
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to the grocery store and get what they needed.
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And it does go beyond that. I think of that
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situation where somebody had his cell phone stolen.
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And so the team took up a collection, the volunteers
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took up a collection to buy him a new cell phone.
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We had the gentleman who was just in a rough
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spot, but had a job lined up in Detroit or in
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the Detroit area, but was trying to figure out
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how to get there. And we said, well, hey, can
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we help you? And it was not easy because we say,
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we can get you a plane ticket. He's like, I don't
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think a plane is going to work just for my needs.
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I think it has to be a train. And so we went
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and we got him a train ticket to Detroit. That's
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a complicated trip on a train. But we were able
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to come together and meet some of these needs
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that don't just meet the need for today, but
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met a need for long term. And now he's able to
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be in a steady job and able to be in an apartment
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and things are going... his life is going differently
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because of the connections he made over lunch
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on a Tuesday. That's wonderful. That's wonderful
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to hear. You've got some stuff going on at the
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Bethel Church separate from Hub City Mission.
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So I want to talk about that a little bit. And
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now I want to start with the church gatherings.
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You have community dinners in Centralia and Toledo.
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And I'm curious what the distinction is between
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those community dinners and like your table ministry.
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Yeah, that's a really great question. Because
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if you came to the table at 11 o 'clock on a
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Tuesday morning and then came back to the same
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facility at 6 o 'clock, on a Tuesday night, you
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probably wouldn't see a lot of difference. Right. Some
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of them would be the same faces. It's a different
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volunteer team. But what that is intended to
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be, the Centralia and the Toledo, and we have
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had other community dinners, and actually community
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dinners are happening all over the state and
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even all over the country. What we're realizing
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is that church is not... accepted in the same
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way that it maybe was 50 years ago that there
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are people who need to hear the message of the
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gospel, the message of the bible but aren't really
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ready to sit in a row on a Sunday morning. There
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is unfortunately a great number of people who
24:43
have had harm in churches. So there is a stigma
24:50
for some people. There is trauma. And even if
24:53
they have that great need that they want to come
24:55
and have a meal, it's the environment. Even if
24:59
their mind knows that they'll be safe, their
25:01
body has a muscle memory from trauma, so they're
25:05
going to have a body response. And that's a common
25:08
thing, unfortunately. For sure. Yeah, so this
25:10
is really a safe place for people to come in,
25:12
not be in a church building. But we do call it
25:16
church. It's a very, very short message of hope.
25:19
So you're not going to hear some long, drawn
25:22
-out sermon or whatever that you're going to
25:23
fall asleep to, maybe. But you're going to get
25:26
a warm meal. You're going to get to sit with
25:28
community. You're going to hear a message of
25:30
hope. And then you get to talk to people, again,
25:33
about your story. story about your struggles
25:35
and about how we can lift each other up. And
25:38
of course, how can we pray for you? You know,
25:40
which we believe is a big part of just lifting
25:43
up people's spirits. And, you know, we've kind
25:45
of seen miracles happen in people's lives, which
25:47
has been really cool. And the word church in
25:49
the Bible means assembly or gathering. And that's
25:52
what it's about. It's about getting together.
25:54
Church doesn't mean sermon. Church doesn't mean
25:56
music. It means assembly. And so that's what
25:59
we're trying to do through Dinner Church and
26:02
actually one of our pastors at Bethel, also
26:05
works with the dinner church movement of establishing
26:07
dinner churches in Seattle, in Allensburg, in
26:11
Port Angeles, all over the state and all over
26:15
the country to go, hey, let's gather people in
26:17
the community so they can meet each other, build
26:19
relationships, not be lonely, not be isolated,
26:23
but to come together and be the church, the assembly
26:26
so that needs can be met and hope can be spread.
26:29
Yeah, I mean, there's, you know, There's a lot
26:31
of great churches out there. Also, a lot of not
26:33
great churches. I'll just say that, if you're
26:35
wondering. It's facts. You know, facts. But there
26:38
are a lot of great churches. But like Dan's saying,
26:40
when you really... look at the model of who Jesus
26:43
was, he was all about feeding people just on
26:46
the road, wherever he went, you know. And a lot
26:49
of things get pushed on Jesus that wasn't Jesus,
26:52
you know. And it was pretty simple. It was come
26:57
and eat and receive hope and salvation. And,
27:01
you know, and so kind of getting back to some
27:03
of those basics. And it doesn't matter who you
27:06
are. You know what? It's, you know, he loves
27:08
everybody. So that's the goal, you know. And,
27:11
you know, sometimes the church runs away with
27:13
fleshly people. And so, you know, people are
27:16
people everywhere you go. Yeah. In the Toledo
27:19
Dinner Church, it feels and looks a lot different.
27:21
It is really a gathering spot for that community.
27:24
But it's the same goal, just to overcome loneliness,
27:28
overcome isolation, and to gather together. And
27:31
it's a lot of fun. And so then you also have
27:46
these other groups. So it sounds like Hub City
27:51
Mission is one of the groups. Bethel Church has
27:55
a number of groups, they sound like support groups.
27:58
And so you have message -based groups, study
28:03
groups, shared interest groups, care groups,
28:07
men's groups, and women's groups. So let's –
28:10
it sounds like some of these are more like –
28:17
message of Christ based types of things. But
28:21
it also sounds like some of them are more kind
28:24
of a personal interest thing and personal need
28:28
kind of community thing that isn't like all about
28:32
like messages of Christ and stuff. And I think
28:34
it's important to talk about the distinctions
28:37
of those where it runs into church speak. versus
28:43
where it's not about that necessarily, but that's
28:47
why we're here, but not about that, but, you know,
28:51
we're just hanging out, kind of thing.
28:54
We've got a great group, which is
28:58
a biking group. Again, here we are all about
29:00
bikes apparently. But they ride on the Willapa
29:03
Trail, the Willapa Hills Trail, and it's just
29:06
a group open to anybody who wants to come and
29:09
ride bikes and be in relationship with
29:11
people, again, commenting that isolation and
29:15
things like that. And so pretty much any hobby
29:18
that you love, Dan and I, we love Ultimate Frisbee.
29:22
So we've led Ultimate Frisbee groups. There are
29:25
people who love to go golfing, although we don't
29:28
golf, you know, but you name it. If you come
29:31
to Dan, who oversees our groups currently, and
29:34
you say, hey, I have a passion for knitting cute
29:38
tiny animals. Great. Let's make that a group,
29:40
you know. Or I've got a passion for, we had a
29:44
gal that loves to lead Zumba. And so we're like,
29:46
great, let's do that. And so really, anything
29:51
your passion is, we want to see that come alive
29:54
in you. And we'd love to see you utilize that
29:56
in the church. So we call those hobby groups.
29:59
We've got those different interest groups that
30:02
are available at the church to you. But then
30:06
there are other people that are going through
30:10
a lot of sorrow and pain in their life. So we've
30:13
got people who've walked through really difficult
30:15
divorces. And so we've got divorce care, people
30:19
who can just gather together and walk through
30:21
the hardships, some of them walking through lawyer
30:24
expenses and the pain of all of that and getting
30:27
together. And then grief share, people who have
30:31
lost a loved one who, boy, that is a journey
30:35
all in itself, man. And it doesn't, there's,
30:38
you know, grief and death is no respecter of
30:40
age or person. And so when that comes to you,
30:43
you want to have somebody who, who doesn't just
30:46
give you the church answer to go, you know. oh,
30:50
you're going to get through this, because you
30:52
don't feel like you're getting through it. You
30:53
want someone to go, I know exactly what you're
30:56
feeling. Let me sit in the dark with you and
30:59
put my arm around you. You know. And then a couple other
31:03
things, which I think are just awesome, a lot
31:05
of churches don't talk about, but we have a group
31:09
called Pure Desires for men who are struggling
31:11
with pornography addiction. And we just know
31:15
that that is, it's just, you know. painful sometimes,
31:18
especially when you're in a relationship. There's
31:21
a sense of betrayal sometimes that can happen.
31:24
And so that coincides with a ministry called
31:26
Betrayed Hearts for people who have been through,
31:30
if I can say on the radio publicly, but like
31:32
sexual addiction or sexual trauma, they've been
31:35
through different kinds of hurt in that way.
31:38
Betrayed Hearts is one of those things where
31:40
people who have walked that journey toward healing
31:43
can say, hey, you know, we're not ashamed to
31:46
talk about the fact that this has wounded you
31:49
and what can we do to walk alongside you to find
31:52
that freedom that you're looking for in your
31:54
spirit. Yeah, and the purpose of all these groups
31:56
is the same, to overcome isolation, to connect
31:59
people together, to overcome loneliness and trying
32:03
to face these things on your own. And you talk
32:27
about, you know, where does the church speak
32:30
end, and I think it's a fair question and probably
32:34
good for us to be clear that we as Bethel Church,
32:36
we don't draw clear lines between.. this is where
32:40
the church speak starts and where it doesn't.
32:42
For example, if you come to serve at our Pantry
32:44
ministry on a Saturday morning, we're just there
32:47
to serve. We're just handing out. food. But we're
32:49
going to pray at the beginning and we're going
32:51
to just say, hey, you know, let's honor Jesus
32:53
today. But in none of these groups is the hope
32:58
or the intention for us to preach at people and
33:01
to try to tell them how they should be living
33:03
or how they should be doing differently. We're
33:05
on a journey together, right? And so while there
33:08
is a blend of church speak versus community,
33:11
riding your bike, overcoming grief, we believe
33:14
that there's hope in Jesus and that in the Bible.
33:17
It's where we find answers to so many of the
33:19
questions we're asking. A great example of that
33:22
is a ministry we do called Celebrate Recovery,
33:25
which is a 12 -step program for overcoming alcoholism,
33:28
drug addiction, but also codependency, emotional
33:31
issues, a variety of different things. But all
33:34
of those 12 steps in Celebrate Recovery are rooted
33:36
in biblical values. So it really is a blending
33:40
together. But I hear what you're saying, and
33:43
that's our heart, too. We don't want people to
33:45
show up and feel like, oh, I see what this is.
33:47
I can't promise that'll never happen because
33:49
people are people, but it's not our heart to
33:51
do that. And as leaders, we try to coach against
33:55
that to say, hey, listen, this is not why people
33:57
are coming. And we don't want to corner. So we're
34:00
not going to shove anything down anybody's throat.
34:03
We're just going to talk about our story and
34:05
our hope and let that be contagious. Awesome.
34:07
And information for any of these different groups,
34:12
how do people find that on the website? Or would
34:15
it be advisable, maybe to just call or email..?
34:19
Yeah, like I said, we try to keep our website
34:21
as user -friendly as we can. I'm trying to make
34:23
improvements that way. But if anything's confusing,
34:26
anything is not making sense, call our church
34:29
office. And there's someone there Monday through
34:31
Thursday happy to help. And if you get a voicemail,
34:33
we'll call you back. You can send us an email
34:36
at Bethel at Bethel -Church .com. And we try
34:40
to communicate with people as best we can because
34:42
it is confusing. Even as we talk about here,
34:45
what's the pantry? What's the table? What's the
34:46
celebration cover? Yeah. Yeah. To us, it's all
34:50
church. Although I get that that's very confusing
34:53
for people because it seems like unconventional.
34:56
Definitely. It sounds like a beautiful mixed
35:00
environment. Yeah, it really is. And I, you know,
35:05
I want to know. about who can come, who would
35:10
feel safe. I'm curious how welcoming LGBTQ are
35:14
in this environment at Bethel. Yeah. We want
35:18
people, no matter where they come from, who they
35:21
are, where they've been, to feel welcome in any
35:23
of our environments. Now, when we're talking
35:26
about church, what we're talking about is an
35:28
assembly of people. And so there's going to be
35:30
a variety of different attitudes represented.
35:35
Some loving, some caring, probably some hostile. We as
35:39
leaders try to reinforce this message every time
35:43
we get together. We want every single person
35:46
to be glad that they have come and to love them,
35:50
welcome them, open up our doors, open up our
35:54
arms, and be that community that we said we were.
35:58
Yeah. And, you know, not to catch anyone off
36:00
guard, though, we are going to teach from the
36:02
Bible. So if you've read the Bible, there are
36:04
certain things in there. In fact, many, many
36:06
things that the Lord asks us to obey him in or
36:11
follow his voice. And so I think my answer to
36:15
that is just no matter where you find yourself
36:17
in your journey, just ask Jesus, you know, like,
36:20
how do you want to love me in this? You know,
36:23
and holding yourself without judgment, which
36:26
I think a lot of churches. taught people to do
36:28
is kind of, you know, have judgment first. And
36:31
my response is hold yourself without judgment
36:34
and then ask Jesus, what are you inviting me
36:37
to? Everybody has a unique story and a different
36:40
journey. And sometimes what I believe Jesus says
36:44
to one is something different that he says to
36:47
another. Indeed, especially. Calling that out,
36:51
saying something different to another, aspect
36:54
makes me think of the men's groups and the women's
36:58
groups. And how open would each of those groups
37:02
be to transgender individuals, for example? Yeah,
37:05
you know, this is a little bit of a hard topic
37:09
when it comes, especially to Celebrate Recovery.
37:11
We had that, you know that question asked just
37:15
on Monday night. And, you know, we had to be
37:18
a little bit honest with why we do men specific
37:23
groups versus women specific. And a lot of it
37:26
comes from sexual trauma. And so there's a lot
37:30
of women that wouldn't be able to open up necessarily
37:34
if they knew, you know, somebody that had done
37:39
harm. And again, you can't like judge who's in
37:41
the room. But we do try to make it as safe feeling
37:45
as an of an environment for trauma, especially.
37:48
And I know that that doesn't always feel clear
37:52
or fair, right? To different people who are who
37:56
are either living a transgender lifestyle or
37:59
whatever it is, doesn't always feel like, hey,
38:02
why am I not invited into this group that I want
38:06
to identify as right into a group or a men's
38:09
group specifically. And some of those boundaries,
38:12
we just keep kind of plain and simple just because
38:17
of people's backgrounds. And of course, you can
38:19
never get it perfectly right. And no one's ever
38:23
going to be perfectly happy, you know, but we
38:25
just try to keep that as safe as we can for the
38:29
level that we can, you know, but again, um anybody
38:34
that came in no matter who they are or what lifestyle
38:37
they celebrate would be loved and you know we
38:41
would try to find the best fit for that person
38:43
too, to feel like hey I..I want healing too and
38:46
where can i get that and and that kind of thing
38:49
so and is it, is it circumstantial or.. here is
38:56
the the flat rule. Is it like, a flat rule, or is
39:01
it circumstantial. Do you um, sit with a person
39:05
case by case, whether they would be a fit for
39:09
a group or not, um regardless of where they were
39:14
at in their gender journey. Yes, I think, again,
39:17
story matters. Relationship. Yeah, relationship.
39:21
So, I mean, everybody's got a story. Everybody's
39:25
got a reason. Everybody's got a path that they're
39:27
on. And that's our goal is to walk alongside
39:29
people in their path, no matter what they're
39:32
going through. So, yeah, it's definitely based
39:36
on story. And also, where would that person feel
39:39
the most comfortable? We would try to find a
39:41
good fit for that person to feel safe.
39:43
But all of us have preconceived ideas or even
39:49
roots of confusion or bitterness or even hatred
39:52
in our heart. So if you come into the church
39:54
going, I already hate what Jesus has to say about
39:57
my lifestyle or my life, that might also be hard
40:02
for you to open up to that message. And just
40:08
to be plain and clear that we are a church and
40:10
we do preach the Bible, that's going to be a
40:14
journey for some people to try to go, where do
40:17
I fit in this story? And I believe they do fit.
40:20
Everybody fits in the story of Jesus. But one
40:24
of the things that Jesus was very clear on is
40:26
that we, as followers of him, are not called
40:30
to point fingers at other people. We're called
40:33
to point that finger at ourself. And he says,
40:36
hey, listen, you're trying to call out a speck
40:38
somebody else has in their own eye when you got
40:41
a big plank in your eye. First, deal with the
40:43
plank in your own eye. And so that's something
40:45
with all of us and all of our leaders, all of
40:48
our church people that we're trying to call them
40:50
to, hey, we're not called to be, to police other
40:53
people. What we're called to do is to listen
40:55
to the voice of the Holy Spirit in ourself and
40:57
grow together and grow in community, to love
41:00
each other, to help each other grow closer to
41:03
Jesus to become more like him. And it is tough
41:06
to do because we're dealing with people and none
41:09
of us are perfect. And it is sad to hear that
41:13
sometimes someone came in and heard a message
41:16
that didn't feel loving, didn't feel like they
41:19
were welcomed, but that's not our heart. Our
41:22
heart would be to welcome with open arms so that
41:24
we can all learn and grow and become more like
41:26
Jesus together. Yeah. Oh, thank you so much for
41:29
explaining and breaking all of that down. Thank
41:31
you. We already talked a little bit about some
41:47
of your different ministries, Celebrate Recovery.
41:51
You have the Bethel Kids Learning Center and
41:54
the Bethel Ministry College. What's that about?
41:58
Bethel Kids Learning Center is, if you came to
42:01
our facility, probably one of the first things
42:02
you're going to see. It's a 6 a .m. to 6 p .m.
42:05
child care center. And it goes back to just asking
42:09
the question, what do we have and what need exists?
42:12
And what we had was a building that was sitting
42:15
mainly empty Monday through Friday. And what
42:17
existed is a need for working parents to have
42:20
somewhere safe, loving, and good for their kids
42:23
to go during the day. And so, years ago, we grew and expanded
42:29
this Bethel Kids Learning Center so that we can
42:31
meet a tangible need in the community. So that's
42:34
a good child care option there. Absolutely. And
42:37
that's separate from the before and after school
42:39
care. That's right. And it's not even on the
42:42
same facility. Okay. And it kind of runs as its
42:45
own thing. So it is, I think all child care is
42:49
quite pricey. It's difficult to find child care.
42:54
So, you know, that does have its own enrollment
42:56
fee like you would do at any kind of child care
42:59
center. And is any of that sliding scale at all?
43:03
We do work with families on a sliding scale.
43:06
A lot of the financial help comes from the state
43:09
or from local tribes. And so there's a lot of
43:12
people who are receiving assistance and help
43:14
that way. You know, we have a great group of
43:18
employees. They love kids. They're super sharp,
43:21
super good group of people, but they're not making
43:24
a ton, right? So margins are pretty thin on keeping
43:27
that going. But we do work with families. to
43:31
help. Yeah. Oh, thank you. And the Bethel Ministry
43:35
College. Yeah. That has some growth to do, if
43:39
I can say candidly. But it is something that
43:42
we're growing in. It's beginning. And basically,
43:45
it's a kind of an internship program where we
43:48
take in students that may not want to do regular
43:51
college or they feel called to ministry in general.
43:55
And so they want some of that training. Yeah,
43:58
they do online learning for their credits, but
44:01
practical hands -on internship and work with
44:04
the ministries that we that we have, uh when
44:08
we say it needs some growing, what we're saying
44:09
is right now we have one student. So uh, in the
44:13
in the heyday we probably had you know between
44:16
10 and 15 it's never been what you think of as
44:18
a college but it's more of an internship program
44:20
where they can achieve college college credit
44:23
and we do hope to rebuild that because we think
44:25
that we have a great environment for young people
44:27
to serve and grow in so is it like a seminary
44:31
I think it could lead toward a seminary. It would
44:34
be sort of a freshman or freshman -sophomore
44:37
year education. You could walk out with an AA
44:39
and pursue whatever that you had. In your future,
44:45
you could pursue seminary education, but you're
44:47
not going to leave with a seminary degree from
44:48
Bethel Ministry College. And a lot of people
44:50
have a niche desire, like they're really great
44:53
at music, so they're like, I want to do Bethel
44:56
school, but just have hands -on training on how
44:59
to play the guitar or how to sing, you know,
45:02
that kind of thing. Yeah, or I want to work with
45:04
young people. I want to do community outreach.
45:05
This is smelling suspiciously like homeschool,
45:08
unschooling. Could be. Homeschool for college,
45:12
maybe. Yeah, homeschool. I would say that it
45:15
would lend itself to maybe a student who wasn't
45:18
used to your traditional schooling. And maybe
45:22
that's why we only have one. Our heart would
45:25
be it would be someone who catches the vision
45:27
of what we're doing at Bethel Church and say,
45:28
I want to invest a gap year or I want to do my
45:31
first two years of school here so that I can
45:33
do some hands on thing. That would be the vision.
45:35
And financially, too. It's super helpful. I don't
45:39
know if you've looked into private education,
45:42
but it's very, very expensive these days. But
45:45
a lot of our students do go to Centralia Community
45:48
College or even here to Evergreen. Centralia
45:50
College, yeah. Okay, thank you for clarifying
45:53
that. So how do people get involved? And we have
46:00
ideas such as donations, participation, starting
46:04
a group, ministries. And a question is, do you
46:08
have to be a member of Bethel Church? And I think
46:11
probably the answer is no, but I want to hear
46:13
you break that down. Yeah, that's a great question.
46:16
And we have a group of people at Bethel Church
46:19
who we call members. It's a very small group
46:21
of people. They've intentionally said, I want
46:24
to be counted as a member. And really all that
46:26
means is that when we have organizational votes,
46:30
they get to vote. And so we have about 300 people.
46:33
It actually sounds like a lot of people, but
46:35
there's... many more people than that involved
46:37
in Bethel Church. You can come to Bethel and
46:40
not be in that member group. You can just show
46:43
up anytime you want. But to serve... You don't
46:47
even need to have attended. And we have a lot
46:49
of people who serve with Hub City Mission who
46:51
attend other churches. We have people who don't
46:54
attend church anywhere, and we welcome them to
46:56
serve because we're not teaching anything, we're not an institute... We're
47:00
handing out food. We're serving a meal. And it's
47:05
a joy to do that together. And so like we talked
47:08
about, there are some people who used to receive
47:09
and now show up and give. There are some people
47:13
who do both. They come and they volunteer. And then they also receive
47:17
before they leave. And we encourage that as well.
47:20
And then there's some areas where I think just
47:22
naturally would be required some leadership skills
47:25
like Celebrate Recovery. We ask that you've already
47:29
been through the 12 steps, whether that's AA
47:31
or something like that. And for obvious reasons,
47:33
just that you aren't just blowing smoke up there
47:36
to somebody who actually needs help. But it wouldn't
47:41
be required that you were a member of Bethel
47:42
Church. And like Dan said, member isn't like,
47:45
it's not some kind of like secret club or there
47:48
are other. groups out there where you hear that
47:51
word member and you don't know what, is that
47:53
a secret handshake? And how high do you climb
47:55
up? You have to pay dues for it. No, you don't.
47:58
Yeah, exactly. Um, so, uh, but people who become
48:03
members, like Dan said, um, they, they share
48:06
the heart of a ministry. They share the heart
48:10
of Jesus. They, you know, they're like, I'm on
48:13
board with what the Bible says. I'm going to
48:15
do my best to honor the Lord. You know, that.
48:18
kind of thing. And we don't charge dues, but
48:21
we do ask that people volunteer if they're a
48:23
member. We ask that people contribute financially
48:24
if they're a member. So demonstrate that they're
48:26
behind it. We leave that to their own personal
48:29
conviction, but we ask it of them. Yeah, discretion.
48:30
Yeah, for sure. Awesome. Thank you. Donations.
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How do people donate? What can people donate?
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And is it, you know, this is... For what? What
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are we donating for? A lot of things, it sounds
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like. A lot of things, yeah. And almost all of
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our donations are given online, you know, just
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the day and age that we're in. And if and when
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you give online, there's a drop -down menu of
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what you can give toward. One is just the general
49:11
operations, what we call tithes and offerings,
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but you can also give specifically to local missions
49:17
that we support. You can give specifically to
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Hub City Mission. You can write in a line item
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to say, I want this. to go specifically to this.
49:26
We don't encourage that as much because it gets
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complicated for bookkeeping because if someone
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says, I need this money to go for fresh vegetables
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and fruit, we have to use that for fresh vegetables
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and fruit and it gets pretty complicated. But
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people can give to whatever specific fund they'd
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like to. Oh, thank you so much. And are people
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able to come by and drop off stuff at all in
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person? You mean tangible things like food? Yeah,
49:53
or bikes or whatever. Bikes, for sure. Most of
49:57
our bikes come that way. Yeah. And food, once
50:00
in a while people will bring.. they'll clean out
50:03
their cupboard and bring stuff to Hub City Mission.
50:07
That ends up being a little bit of a drop in
50:09
the bucket because there's so many people that
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we serve. So it's better that we get the bulk
50:15
food so that all the households can have that
50:19
opportunity. We do have a miscellaneous table,
50:22
but it feels a little mean when you're, you know,
50:24
in the middle of the line. You see that, you
50:26
know, somebody got something awesome, you know,
50:29
so we try to keep it pretty bulk. But they're...
50:33
at our Tuesday lunches, some people do give
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out clothing and stuff. We are not a clothing
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bank, but we do have a little bit of storage.
50:44
And that's, again, based on personal story and
50:46
needs. And also our desserts at the Tuesday lunch
50:51
are almost always baked by a volunteer who wants
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to give and wants to give something back. At
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the Pantry food give, we do give donated food,
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but often it works better if like a work. place
51:04
or our neighborhood can collaborate, check the
51:07
expiration dates and kind of weed through that
51:09
for us, and then bring that all together. Just
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because we're only open twice a month for the
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pantry, so it gets a little complicated to receive
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donations during the week. Awesome. Thank you.
51:21
And, you know, this was nowhere on the website.
51:25
This is something that... Had I not started talking
51:29
about general things when y 'all came in, I would
51:32
never have heard that y 'all have your own podcast.
51:35
We do. That is such a little secret y 'all have
51:38
there. Yes. Well, that's kind of us personally.
51:40
We just started six months ago. Six months. Very
51:43
new. And, you know, if you're listening, you
51:45
might not know. Maybe you caught this, but we're
51:47
Dan and Rebekah. We've been married for 25 years.
51:50
And I have three kids who are now aging out of
51:55
our house. So we just ended up starting a podcast
52:00
called Hope for More. And we're running out of
52:03
topics, people. So if you've got hope for more
52:05
of something, we're thinking maybe we should
52:07
do some Hope for Less series. Yeah, right. Hope
52:11
for Less Clutter would be a good one. But we've
52:13
done everything from hope for more free stuff,
52:15
hope for more patience. Confidence, adventure.
52:20
Intimacy. Compassion. Yeah, a lot of things you
52:24
want more of. And you can find us on Spotify,
52:26
or on YouTube. Just look for Hope for
52:30
More, and you can type in either Dan Metteer or
52:33
Rebekah Metteer, and hopefully you'll find a picture
52:37
of us that has got a filter on it. Can you spell
52:41
your names, please? M -E -T -T -E -E -R. And
52:45
how do you spell your name, Rebekah? Yeah, Rebekah
52:47
is R -E -B -E -K -A -H. Thank you. One of those
52:51
difficult ones. Yes. Okay, wow, so only six months. Yeah.
52:57
We've been doing it six months and it just started
52:59
as an experiment someone in our church who's
53:03
very techie tech savvy has a lot of kind of recording
53:06
equipment said, hey we should be doing a podcast
53:09
you should do a podcast. People want to hear from
53:12
you, that's a great way to communicate, uh the
53:14
church resists embracing technology and this
53:17
is a way that a lot of people are getting communication
53:19
out there, we should do this, so we said hey, we'll
53:22
do the content if you handle the engineering.
53:25
And he said, deal. So it's a great- He volunteers
53:28
his time. We volunteer our time... Awesome! It's a lot of
53:31
fun. Thank you. That's so good to know. Thank
53:33
you. And is there anything else you would like
53:59
to share? I think just the last thing is, if I have
54:02
the opportunity, I do mostly speak to women,
54:05
but I speak all around the U .S. at different
54:09
conferences. And so I've got some like 30 -day,
54:13
what we call devotionals or just kind of like
54:15
journal and introspective thinking and some scriptures
54:18
in there and a lot of my own journey of hardship
54:23
and trying to make my way up to finding hope
54:27
and freedom in my own life. So, if you're interested in that,
54:30
you can find all those books on Amazon as well.
54:32
Oh, wow! Books! Books. Six books so far. Wow.
54:36
Yes. Awesome. Oh, thank y 'all so much. Thank
54:40
y 'all so much. Yeah, thank you. It's been a
54:42
joy. Thanks for tuning in. Bethel Church in Centralia
54:58
is located at 413 North Tower Avenue and their
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church office in Chehalis is at 132 Kirkland
55:07
Road. The bike shop is open 10 to 2 on Saturdays
55:11
and Tuesdays. Table ministry is on Tuesdays from
55:15
11 to 12:30 and the food pantry is open 9 a .m.
55:19
twice a month. If you would like to find out
55:22
more, get involved, or donate, please visit www
55:26
.bethel -church .com or call Monday through Thursday,
55:34
8 :30 a .m. to 4 :30 p .m. at 360 -748 -0119.
55:43
Dan and Rebekah and the wonderful folks at Bethel
55:45
Church and Hub City Mission would love to hear
55:47
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