Latest / The Sense and Senseless Podcast / EP: 49 "HIDDEN EVIL, History of Child Sex Exploitation"
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- Bryan: Alright. Go keep on riding. Hey everybody, welcome back to the Sense and Senseless podcast. I am Brian. Jason's running a little bit behind. He will be joining us later. If this is your first time joining us, welcome to the family. We're just two regular guys breaking down complicated, uncomfortable topics in plain English. Now, in this episode, we're stepping into one of humanity's darkest realities: the sexual exploitation of children from ancient practices. That were once tolerated to hidden horrors still happening today. We'll talk about the Bacheboys of Afghanistan, sex trafficking in Southeast Asia, how our foster care system is failing us here in the West, and the explosion of online grooming. Now, I gotta admit this is not comfortable listening, but it is necessary. I think we need to keep talking about this shit. We're gonna do a quick walkthrough history. We're going to look at current patterns. We're going to examine the economics, dive into the US realities and much more tonight. Please like, share, follow, and subscribe. We love and appreciate every single one of you. All right. Now, again, listen to discretion strongly advised if this topic is too heavy for you right now. I get it. Maybe this episode isn't for you. ⁓ sorry, we we love all of our listeners. And sometimes we we talk about shit that's just too hard for some people to join us. And I I get that, you know, and there's no judgment. No judgment. You know, just please remember to join us another time. We'll we'll probably talk about something else that you'll enjoy. Now, for everybody else, let's go ahead and begin. So child sexual exploitation, the abuse, the prostitution, forced marriage, and pederasty, it stretches back thousands of years. This shit didn't just start. Now, if you don't know what Paterasty is it's the relationship of a man and a boy in ancient Greece. I had to learn a lot of shit I didn't know either. Now, for the most part of recorded history, the exploitation of children wasn't viewed as in today's lens like it was bad. ⁓ children were often seen as property. So that there was no such thing as consent. It didn't matter what they wanted. They wasn't even discussed. So power, poverty, Slavery and the short life expectancies shaped a lot of this shit. And in ancient Egypt, Greece, and Rome, and I'm sure every other ancient place, very young girls were married to much older men. They even had children as sex slaves back then. You know, not much different than what we have today. In classical Greece, particularly among elites in the fourth and fifth centuries. They use pederasty and framed it as mentorship with a sexual element. Think about that. And and and just a little I remember my wife telling me she went toward the plantations around here in ⁓ Louisiana, and it'd be a big bid and a little bit. And she asked the person on tour, you know, what was that for? And she said that was like, I don't know, like the the main guy or the the groundskeeper or whatever. And then that was his apprentice. So basically he had a kid in his bedroom. ⁓ yeah, I don't know what he's teaching them, but I can guarantee it ain't about fucking the yard care or whatever the fuck they were supposed to be doing. Now in this pederasty, these were usually ⁓ young teens. Not the younger kids that we would think about today, but you know, younger teens. Not not that it makes it fucking any better. You know, I just wanted to point that shit out. I mean, come on. And it wasn't universal across all Greek society, but in certain circles it was socially accepted. Now in Rome, they had similar shit going on with slaves and prostitutes. During the medieval period in ⁓ Europe, was a law set of consent of marriage around 12 for girls and 14 for boys. ⁓ But still did happen, you know, ⁓ younger. ⁓ And not sure how many 14-year-old boys were marrying 12-year-old girls back then. You know what I'm saying? I believe this was mostly for old men to get ⁓ a young bride. I don't know how many nah it could have been. I don't know how many twenty year old, twenty four year old women are marrying fourteen year old boys. Not saying it didn't happen, but I don't know, laws of averages sometime. And the court records show there was classic cases of horrific abuse back then. Yet the powerful men walked free. So even back then, the people that were accused of if you had money, didn't fucking matter, nothing to see you. Not much bit different from fucking today. Also, child marriage for political alliances were common across cultures. I guess if you watch any movies or series like the Game of Thrones and shit, you could you can envision, you know, how they do that. That's the only way I can f give you a visual, you know. By the nineteenth century, things were starting to get industrialized and this caused a surge in urban child prostitution. Back then, ⁓ in England the age of consent was only thirteen until eighteen eighty five. And in the US, many states said it at ten and twelve years old. Think about that. Can you imagine you a woman or just think about your daughter and this twenty five year old dudes coming asked you for your hand in marriage of your ten year old daughter? Yeah, I don't know. The real shift happened in the 20th century. People finally started pushing back. ⁓ in the 1960s and the nineteen seventies, this brought about the rediscovery of child abuse. Then in 1974, the U.S. passed the Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act. And ⁓ this rose the age of consent globally after that. The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child was ratified almost everywhere. Now today In the 21st century, child sexual exploitation is universally condemned under national law. ⁓ I we became more civilized as the people. ⁓ We to understand trauma, consent, and child development in ways our ancestors never ⁓ did. And understanding natural progress, you know. But we all know this shit still happens today. If it wouldn't be happening today, I wouldn't be fucking talking about it, right? So often wonder if this sick shit of pedophilia is somehow still part of our animalistic nature. Now I'm not condoning this shit in any fucking way. I mean, don't get that shit twisted, all right? But I question this because it's so fucking prominent. You know, is there something in our head from years past that was passed on in the DNA, animalistic, that has people to where they can't shake that animalistic nature? I mean, is that possible? Is that is that why we could Maybe this considered this is a ⁓ a mental disorder. To me it's mentally, 'cause I just can't fathom how you would fuck a toddler or a ten year old or twelve year old or fourteen year old or sixteen year old or anything, you know, when you fucking in your twenties or It just don't make fucking sense to me. You know, even if you're talking about an 18-year-old and a 12 year old and a 13 year old, that don't make fucking sense. When you're young and if you're not stupid, you know that young people develop a lot between, you know, when they're a 10 year old and a 14 year old is not the same, and a 14 year old and 18 year old is not the same. It's just not. You know? And it what's sad is I'm learning a lot of shit, all right. And I didn't put this in this it this episode, but There's different levels to pedophilia. And I had no fucking idea. I think there's like four levels, and I'll cover that one week. But that blew my mind. It's like, are we really gonna put levels on pedophilia? So you like if you at this age or this age or this age, that's all different levels. I'm like, this is just fucked up. So there was a lot of thought putting it in shit. And I'm assuming at one time, maybe that level was maybe that was prosecution level. I don't I don't know. I don't know. But I can tell you this. My grandfather was in his twenties and my grandma was in her mid teens when they got married. And he was in World War II, and when he got back, he married my grandmother. And this was had to be what the mid to late forties. So that's that was less than a hundred years ago. Think about that. I mean, today that would we'd be considered pedophilia and sick. Yeah. But less than a hundred years ago is normal, at least it was accepted in the US. And That's different from trafficking kids. I get it. You know, it's just something I think about. You know? All right. Now I still can't wrap my head around why these men wanna harm these children. I just I can't wrap around it, yeah. It's these kids are so innocent. And the only thing I can assume is that they find power in in either causing pain to these kids or taking the innocence away from these kids. You know, and it it's just something that they crave. You know, I can't get it. I don't think I'll ever figure it out. I I think that They might be sadistic enough to where they you know, they like to feel somebody else's pain. That's quite possible. Maybe it is they like control. And maybe it's like the owl on the Tootsero commercial. The world may never know. I'm not trying to make light of this, just give me it a little, you know, taking a little light. But y you might never know what's going on with these fucking people and what's wrong with their heads. Now let's look at one of the most documented modern examples. I don't know if y'all ever heard of Botcha Boys or Bachabazi. Anyway, there's in parts of Afghanistan, essential Asia, there's a practice called batchabazi, which is basically boy play. And this is again where powerful people buy fucking poor kids. And these boys have purchased like they they don't have like a groomer or whatnot. I'm just gonna make this a simple spot. They might have a groomer or something, and and he sees, you know, this farmer and he got a cute little kid, you know, and that He knows that farmer's struggling, so he goes up to that farmer and says, Hey look, I can give your kid a good fan a good ⁓ a good life. They'll raise him and and feed him right and he's he's gonna have a great life. So he gives the dad some money, he takes this nine year old or, you know, boy or whatever he is, you know. The farmer's probably pretty distraught 'cause he had to do that with his son, you know, he had to sell his son. I'm sure that's fucked you up. But he was doing what he had to survive. Maybe he had six sons and that was the best looking one and they seen a way to make their lives better. But that can't make the farmer feel good, you know. So the groomer takes this boy and they go back to this big ass house and there's other botcha boys there. And they dress him up feminine, you know, put bells on him and shit, show him how to dance, and he's gonna dance at at weddings and parties, and he's gonna have all this fine clothes, and he's might seem great at first, and then all of a sudden you start getting raped. You know, you realize Hey, here's Jason. Jason: Hey Bryan: Hey, welcome in. I'm just talking about ⁓ the girls at the Buy Me Drinky Bars and ⁓ and the strip clubs in Japan. And we with it's ba basically about foreign sex tourism and how it's grown in many countries. So I so Jason: Yeah, yeah, we're singing all these link together now right now we kind of understand we're all like you you wonder how these girls end up in these places and Never thought of it. You just thought it was a commodity Bryan: That outside of just dancing for these people, you were other entertainment for these people. And the guys that owned the bocha boy would show him off like he was a he was like an heirloom to them. You know, and he would allow other people to have sex with his botcha boy. And the bocha boys, from what I've read and what I've seen, You know, there might be a few of them in the household and there might be one, but the older ones will teach the younger one the ropes, the ones that's coming in. And once you hit puberty, they don't want you anymore. So they go ahead and just push you out. Now you have to go find your way through life. You have no skills, but other than dancing with bells, I don't think that does anything for you. Unless you're a botcha boy. They're not going back home because of the embarrassment and the shame of what they went through, right? So now they're they went from, yeah, I'm I'm getting raped, you know, way up here, but not saying way up here, but they they w knew they had food. They knew they had what they needed. And yes, they were getting raped, but you know, that's what they had. And now all they had was whatever their lead ⁓ their owner gave them why they walked out the gate. And now they have to survive. Now, when I was in Singapore, we went on a tour of the red light district, and that was very eye opening. There were numbers of prostitutes out there. ⁓ there were so many, let's just say there was a huge fucking demand. So some of them turn to suicide, jumping off a bridge. Some of them, you know, start life of theft, or maybe they start doing older prostitution. And then some of them become groomers. And they start bringing selling kids for this botcha stuff. It's just an evil circle. And I'm sure I'm saying that because I'm sure that's the same way it happens now. That same cycle, it's the same in every case. I I was surprised how many prostitutes they they had in the red light district. And there one guy that was on tour with us that stayed in the red light district. ⁓ he was in Singapore as a sex tourist. And this was the first time I've ever heard of such a thing. And then ⁓ on this tour, we passed by the Lady prostitution section. The man given the tour told us there was a lot of Navy men that go to these lady boy areas. It's just different people and different cultures and different ways that they they hook you. Now they said under Afghan law and ⁓ the Taliban had it ba ⁓ banned all this shit. But the poor people and corruption and weak enforcement of banning it, it keeps it alive. Not sure how true that is, but there's a fucking demand for that shit too, just saying. Jason: Ladyboy, what does that mean? Bryan: Lady boy. It's a boy and a lady. So it's a guy that it's a cross-dress guy. He's a transgender. And that was it was a very big thing in in Singapore. And they said it was driven by the the popularity of the the Navy guys ⁓ frequenting the area. Jason: ⁓ okay. Bryan: And it's not just the boys. You know, that that's just You don't hear about them as much. So I want to start with that. I want to start with the boys. Now, girls have some of the same problems. You know, I I mean, as you can I mean, you know. I don't have to tell you that. And in Thailand and the Philippines, economic pressure, Vietnam war era, demand, and and sex tourism created massive commercial sex industries. Girls as young as twelve and thirteen from rural areas are trafficking brothels and bars. Jason: Thank God I wasn't in the Navy. Bryan: And surprisingly, as nice as Singapore was, and Singapore was beautiful. There was a lot of whore houses, a lot of them. And that can be said for Okinawa too, I can't lie. But this one building in Singapore was nicknamed the Four Floors of Whores. The real name of it was the Orchard Towers. And ⁓ it was basically a four-story mall with bars that had prostitutes in it. And you could shop it, you know, shop around for your horse. And it had escalators and everything in the son of a bitch. But it's called the Four Floors of Horse. Now, this is not only rich versus poor. When it comes down to, ⁓ you sex trafficking and This exploitation is going on today, but it's mostly underground is what they're saying. And online sexual exploitation of children exploded during COVID. Across history and regions we see the same patterns. Child marriage in s parts of South Asia, Africa and the Middle East get married off at twelve younger to much older men. Jason: Peace. Bryan: And poverty disasters and family pressures have driven tens of thousands of children into commercial sexual exploitation. This abuse of ⁓ kids. Family abuse, grooming gangs, and online ⁓ predators happens across all classes. In the West, it often hides in plain sight. Now, before we get into the ways the kids are trafficked in the U.S., I want to go back to the milk carton kid question from last week. So last week we questioned what happened to these kids, and you were adamant about these kids. now I'm not picking on these cultures from a distance. I mean, this is just something I I don't know of anything in this area, but this is what I've seen. And I know it's going on around here, but it's more underground. And this is more about understanding the patterns of power and poverty and how vulnerable people are. You know, all this shit exists across eras and all borders. You know, it's it's not limited to one place. likely were used in the six trafficking shit that we see going on today. And so I looked into this and this is what I found. In the mid-1980s, millions of American families saw the faces of missing children on daily milk cartons At breakfast. You know, the milk carton kids campaign turned grocery aisles into a massive public search effort, reflecting deep national anxiety about child abductions. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: It's everywhere. fucking everywhere. It's everywhere. It's fucking everywhere. And the poor are exploited more than any other class. I mean, these rich folks create a demand for this shit. And impoverished people drive the supply. Impoverished parents or traffickers sometimes hand children over for survival and/or profits. And it's just the way life is. And the poor are exploited more than any other class. I mean, these rich folks create a demand for this shit. And impoverished people drive the supply. Impoverished parents or traffickers sometimes hand children over for survival and/or profits. And it's just the way life is. In poor countries like the Philippines and Thailand, has ⁓ foreign tourism has grown. And there was millions of American families saw missing children's faces on these milk cartons every morning. Now, this shit all started in Iowa after two paper boys, Johnny Gosh and Eugene Martin, disappeared. I'm sure if y'all follow us, y'all might remember Johnny Gosh. He was in part of ⁓ the Ted Gunderson was telling us a story in the episode from The Finders. Now, unfortunately, according to Ted Gunderson, Johnny was sex trafficked. Anyway. When was in Japan, there there was a lot of buy me drinky bars, right? I don't know if you know what a buy me drinky bar is. You it's it's like a strip club and you walk in and the girl comes sit on your lap and she but speaks very broken English. And the first thing she tells you is buy me drinky. So it's the buy me drinky bar. Every one of them was a buy me drinky bar, right? And they had to sell so many drinks each night to meet a quota before they can go get off. And they all lived in the same little fucking spot. Well The local dairy in Iowa agreed to print their photos on cartons. This shit quickly went national. By 1985, hundreds of ⁓ dairies participated, featuring roughly 200 total children on hundreds of millions, possibly billions of milk cartons. Now, the media warned of an epidemic of child abductions and ⁓ claims of a million or more missing kids a year. Each each bar might have a little trailer or whatnot for all of ⁓ just to to live in. They were basically sex slaves. You know, they were basically sex slaves. And they were brought from many different countries. They were brought from Philippines, Thailand and shit, you know. So one night I was there and I asked one of the girls, ⁓ why is it so normal in their culture, you know, to to be have sex? Reality though, according to the DOJ studies, was different. Most children were runaways or family abductions, roughly three hundred and fifty-four thousand family cases in nineteen eighty-eight alone. True stereotypical stranger kidnappings numbered only about a hundred to three hundred per year. The milk cartons produce few rescues. You know, or sell sex or say you self into prostitution. Why is that so normal? And she told me that in her culture, you needed a dowry to get married. And if you're poor, you don't really have anything to offer for marriage. So the family would sell their daughters into prostitution to offset the cost. But it did help create the National Center for Missing and and Exploited Children and Better Systems. Today, Amber Alert cell phones and databases save four more lives. So the Milk Carton kids, it seemed like a lot, but it wasn't as many as they were ⁓ leading to be. ⁓ And did a little more research, and there weren't many kids that was actually found from that, but it did have better systems come out after that. Now I'm not sure if all that's true, but you know, that's what I was told that night in the buy me drinking bar. the harder truths ⁓ one of the other questions we asked was about the unaccompanied should I say. ⁓ So we had all illegal people coming across the border and a lot of them were unaccompanied miners, yeah. Jason: We're kids with nobody. Yeah. Yeah. Kids with nobody. I mean, how was that happening? Bryan: I mean, so there were large numbers of unaccompanied kids coming across, hundreds of thousands in recent years. Yeah. And it's been difficult to track after placement with sponsors. They said ⁓ oversight reports highlight tens of thousands with incomplete or missing release addresses. Another 10 of tens of thousands who missed their court hearings. And they said, now, while not all unaccompanied migrant children are con Jason: Red flag. Right. Bryan: Confirmed traffic. some may be with extended family. Confirmed cases of labor exploitation, sexual abuse, and trafficking have emerged from welfare checks. So they can't say that they've all been trafficked. They can't account for all of ⁓ but they do know that they're being exploited in labor and and sexual. So there's that. Then there's the foster care. Now, this one fucking threw me for a loop when I looked at foster care. When I first started looking at foster care, and not and I actually ran across an article. I wasn't even looking for foster care, but when I I said shit, I'm gonna check this article out. The amount of kids that are sexually abused in foster care is just unbelievable. The amount of articles and videos that I found just on a simple search is just unbelievable. ⁓ I I was really shocked. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: At how easy it was to find that shit. And then studies show that 50 to 80% of identified child sex trafficking victims in the U.S. have prior ⁓ or current involvement in child welfare system. So 50 to 80 percent of the kids in the child welfare system has had some kind of ⁓ sex crime against them. It says runaways from foster care or group homes are especially vulnerable. Traffickers target them, often posing as boyfriends. The most insidious form may be familiar trafficking. Estimates say family members are involved in 37 to 60 percent of U.S. child sex trafficking cases. It often starts at around the age of four. Fucking four years old. The loyalty conflict. And normalization inside the family make escape incredibly difficult. Now, yesterday I was this is I was going through the news, ⁓ my news that I I get through the email, and I seen a headline that said, Pure Evil. Gay couple raped adopted baby boy before brutally killing him. So that's what got me to start looking into some of this. And then so what this story was is this was a UK gay couple. that was convicted this month of the abuse and death of the adopted thirteen month baby boy. Thirteen month. All right. One of these fucks was found guilty of murder by a smothering, multiple counts of sexual assault, rape of a child, child cruelty, and related offenses, including filming abuse. The other fuck was convicted of causing or allowing death of a child, child cruelty and sexual assault. This baby lived with these fuckers for three to four months. According to The Guardian, during the short time that this baby lived with him, he suffered routine physical assault, sexual abuse, including rape, and ill treatment. Evidence included Snapchat videos around 40 traumatic injuries, including bruises and internal damage and perforated bowel. And signs of repeated harm. He died on July 27, 2023. The baby did. Concerns were raised during hospital visits, but authorities missed opportunities to intervene. Reports mention eight missed chances. So that baby went to the hospital at least eight fucking times in the three to four months that he was with these people, with at least 40 fucking traumatic injuries, including perforated bile. Jason: to his. Bryan: And it couldn't stop these motherfuckers. Six. In a separate but similar case, another gay couple adopted two brothers, ages three and five, at the time of adoption. All right. They started abusing these kids shortly after adoption. The couple sexually assaulted, molested, and raped the boys over several years. They installed cameras throughout the home to record the abuse for repeated and produced child sexual abuse material. Evidence included over seven terabytes of photos and videos with material as recent as fourteen days before the arrest. They also shared some material and allegedly procured the boys to at least two other men for further abuse. So they were fucking selling their kids. These boys were 10 and 12 at the time of their arrest. Seven fucking years these kids were abused. So both of these sick fucks were sentenced to a hundred years. Just to give everybody some context, between 1500 and 3,500 hours of standard. Quality video can be stored on the seven terabyte hard drive. And they had over seven terabytes of material. Even record even when recorded in the highest quality, I found that you can still fit roughly seven hundred and fifty hours of video. or over three hundred full length movies on a seven terabyte hard drive. And it's it's not just gay people. You know, and I don't want anyone to take that away from the discussion. That's just what I found because the first headline I had was the gay couple in UK. And when I started pulling thread, that was the next article I found. And then the next one I found was it just kept giving me gay couples. So this week, John David Ballard, fifty one of Seminoa, Florida, was arrested. Twenty counts of possession, control, and an intentional viewing of. Child sexual abuse material and five counts of sexual activity involving animals. This was Fox News thirteen in Florida. A search of his phone revealed dozens of images and videos of child sexual abuse material involving children as young as two months old, including graphic acts. It also included bestiality content. Ballard reportedly made explicit comments while viewing the material. The local sheriff described the material as graphic and grotesque and stated that Ballard used his position of trust as a foster parent and adoptive parent. To young boys as part of this personal sexual gratification. This motherfucker was another foster parent. I mean, these foster kids, when I started looking at that, those poor kids have no chance. Jason: No, I mean, they're looking for a house of peace and love because their original parents didn't provide that. Bryan: Well, this guy Ballard and his husband Breed Brad ⁓ what was it? Bradley Borserk. I can't even say his name. So they were licensed for ⁓ foster parents in Florida since twenty seventeen. They fostered twenty-three boys, ages four to twelve, between ⁓ two thousand and twenty twenty three. They adopted five boys and they co authored a book on adoption. Jason: face. Bryan: No, I didn't find any accusations from the kids of ⁓ sexual assault or anything, but some of the kids that they were ⁓ were fostering did report that they had forced nudity and they were watching them shower. I'm sure there was some sick shit in that house too. And this shit normally doesn't like bother me. But today when I was going through the this shit really started fucking hitting me because it's you start to realize how prevalent it is. You know? It's one thing, you know, you see a couple little clips here and there. I'm telling you, when you pull this shit up, it's just it seems like every city is having this fucking problem. It it is not isolated to any area. It is It's as bad as drugs right now. I guess it could be a drug to some people. But hold on, there's more. ⁓ Here this is a clip from Sean Ron ⁓ explaining how some of this foster care shit works. And this shit right here. This is gonna this is gonna be an eye opener for you. Pretty fucked up, huh? Jason: Foster cares the toys are less for pedophiles, huh? Bryan: Kind of looking that way. And you know what's sad? When I was ⁓ Jason: And there's no law, I don't, I wish he would have elaborated a little bit further into that. Bryan: What's that? Jason: Like, there's laws against messing with a minor. Bryan: Well, no, okay, I can tell you. I can explain that to you. I don't know ⁓ I don't I wasn't paying attention because I was doing something else, but I can explain that to you. I don't know if she went that deep as far as to say that whenever you you become you you adopt the child, you become the foster parent, you're the guardian, right? And these other states might have a consent of let's say twelve years old as long as the parent signs off on it. So if you the guardian, you can Jason: Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Now you become the parent. Bryan: You become the parent and now you can sign the consent for that kid to marry someone. All right. Now that I'm let me say I let's just play this sick shit. I'm trying to sell a kid to you. Now I'm the guardian. Now I own this kid. That's how they're looking at it. I'm the guardian. I own this kid. Now you want to marry my kid. All right. Now I can sign the consent over for you to marry them as long in certain states. Right? Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. at a real young age, yeah. Bryan: Right. Now I need money from you to marry. Well, you can't you're not gonna buy the kid from me, but you can give me a dowry. You know, 'cause that's part of my culture. Just think about it. And that's how they get through that shit. It's fucked up, huh? Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And our government is doing nothing. Bryan: Yeah, it's fucked up. I I they probably the the part of it. I mean they probably set that loophole up. Jason: Yeah. Yeah, they're probably making money off of it. Bryan: Well I no, I think that's might be d some of their pipeline for to get the fucking kids. Jason: Well, yeah, because we were talking about and she even made the comment about it being demonic and all that stuff. And I do believe that that's ritual. That's satanic ritual stuff with kids and things like that. I mean, it's just, I'm trying to watch what I say on here. Bryan: And see, I thought foster parents, I thought foster parents, you know, did that shit just like to make money. And that honestly, when I was first looking into it, I started digging into, you know, how much money was made. And everything I found pointed to where they were actually doing it for the love of the kids because there wasn't that much money to be made into this shit. Right. And that's the majority of what I found. I seen both. But then I listened to this woman tell me what she found. Watch, listen to this shit. Jason: bullshit. Hehehehehe ⁓ Bryan: So I I don't know, man. I I we we're we're failing our children. We just are. All right. Well Now I got some good news, but also some sad news. Jason: Mmm. Bryan: ⁓ it's good that fifty eight pedophiles were arrested. And it's sad that these guys have access to our children. Ryan Montgomery, he was ⁓ the guy that we had watched that was on Sean ⁓ Sean Ryan's show, the hacker. Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-mm. That skinny dude, yeah, the hacker, yeah. Bryan: Yeah, he opened my eyes when he told Sean Ryan that most pedophiles work around kids and this gives them better ac better access to children. And I never thought about it in that way before. But I want you to think about that when when you watch this video. They do their best to get around kids and they pretty fucking good at doing it. Jason: Jeez dude, that's crazy. Bryan: It's sick that it's so fucking prominent. It it really is. ⁓ it's everywhere. I I bet you if no matter where you at, if you did a search, you know, of ⁓ sexual offenders or whatever, child sex offenders, you would find people in your area. And it's really starting to bother me that it's so prominent and there's not more coverage of this shit. You know? They wanna make it taboo to talk about this shit. They make it hard for us to even fucking get videos out to talk about this shit. That's a problem. It's a fucking problem. Jason: Yes, it is. Bryan: All right. Like I said, that shit fucked me up today. So you know. But we're gonna move on from the children. I somebody gotta do something to help that. Last week we discussed allegations and comments about truck ⁓ Trump liking the pert nipples. You remember the torture and nipples and shit? Jason: ⁓ yeah, on the upsteam files, yeah. Nipplegate. Bryan: Yeah. Well, here's a video from Julian Dory. He's talking about just this. This this is about five minutes long, but I want to leave it the whole thing because I want everyone to get the full context because it's Trump. You know, I don't want people to say you just took this part out. Check this out. Jinya Roberts actually committed suicide. Jason: Hmm. Bryan: Stop ⁓ Jason: Yeah. Bryan: So Jason: I mean, they did have him on tape, remember, in his first election? I don't know if you remember that, the very first one that he won, where they had him on a recording saying you got to grab him by the pussy. Bryan: Yeah, but I don't know if that was any like rape victims of Jason: I'm just putting in context. You see what I'm saying? So you can't discredit everything and say, ⁓ he's not that kind of dude. Bryan: Yeah. ⁓ no, you can't say that ⁓ he's he's the you friendly grandpa, you know. Again, but friendly grandpa's probably groping grandma when she rats I mean she she's a dude. Now i i but he's probably a sick dude. Jason: Yeah Yeah, he's a dude, but yeah, he's had money and all that stuff. And when you got money, you think you can have whatever the fuck you want. Agree? Bryan: Not only that, I think you I think you get bored. I do. And and I'm not trying to make excuses for any of ⁓ But why do they have to do weird shit? Because they've done everything else. So they gotta try something weird, you know. Well let's do this weird shit. Well, that's just weird. Well well, nobody else is doing it. It's cause it's weird. You know. Jason: Yeah. Hey Brian, ⁓ you and ⁓ you kind of bored with your say, yeah, okay. Well, I know this weird place we can go. It's over on an Island, some Jeffrey dude. You can do weird shit over there. All right, let's go do weird shit. I mean that's Bryan: I don't know how fucked up your life gotta be the way you wanna fuck a goddamn toddler. You know? Jason: Dude, it's... when you... Not to bring up past episodes, but when you showed me that damn dentist chair, and that Dorn dude was talking about what they did in that dentist chair, they take the teeth out of the kids so they couldn't bite, that... Bryan: Mm-hmm. I it's dumber. And that's probably mild. Jason: ⁓ yeah, that's not even scratching the surface of what I mean I don't I don't know. Do we want to know everything that happened over there? Bryan: ⁓ Yeah. And you know why? Because I we need that kind of anger in this fucking country. We need to quit being, you know, we need to quit fucking throttling shit down. I was thinking about that the other day. You know, how how they want you to say unalive when somebody fucking killed themselves. No, they fucking killed themselves. You know, no, say what the fucking word is. They want to keep tempering shit down and making it less and less. No, say what the fuck it is. People need to feel what it is. Jason: Yeah Now I guess so. turning the... Yeah ⁓ yeah, or you can't say gun you gotta say pew pew Yeah. Bryan: Cause it is more than what the fuck you saying it is. Jason: Yeah. Yeah. Stop watering shit down. You're right. Bryan: So yeah, that that makes Jason: Only thing you should be watering down is your frickin' seeds outside to grow shit, and that's it. Bryan: All right, well here's a a lady that she's doing some Epstein file reads. ⁓ I found this one kinda interesting, so I'm gonna go ahead and play them. Fucked up. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: That's just the shit that's, you know, unredacted, just simple shit, you know. Can you imagine what these girls went through? Jason: Yeah. No, and that's just, this is the girls, man. This is, that's the light shit. That's the PG shit right there, dude. I'm not trying to downplay their stuff, Ryan, but like I said, it goes lower in the age group and probably down to babies. Bryan: They need No, I agree with you. Yeah. Well, not even that. I I like how many of these kids, whether girls, boys, whatever, that they just tortured to death. Jason: Yeah, and they'll never get to speak. They'll never get to have their day. Bryan: No, I mean there's there's a reason that these kids that was subjected to this that are still alive that don't say anything. There's a fucking reason. And I don't know if money can keep you shut up that long. You know? Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's doing it. Bryan: All right, well, we're gonna move off of that. Did you see that bungee jumper that died in Brazil? Jason: I'm sorry, yes. They forgot to, yeah. Bryan: Yeah. Yeah. I'ma show yeah, I'm gonna show a couple of different angles. I when I first seen it, I was like, that's no way that's real. And that's the first one I'm gonna play. I was like, that does 'cause it was all in Spanish. Jason: I didn't watch it all the way. I'm not going to lie. I did see a clip on TikTok and then it was like, this is retarded. I just scrolled off of it. didn't. Bryan: The this poor girl. If if you don't know this poor girl, she they there was this place in Brazil that you can go and still do bungee jumping, but the place was closed down. So it was kinda like they were doing this illegally and still selling this as a bungee jump and Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Sh ⁓ she should have bought the insurance. Check this up. So that's the one I seen. And she just splats on the ground. Jason: Yeah. Yeah. Bryan: And I was like, there's no way that's real. It just can't be real. So I let it go, you know. And then I'd caught this angle. Now watch when they realize that they didn't get the rope on her. That's when I realized it was real. Jason: They had safety harnesses on them. Bryan: ⁓ yeah, they were all strapped in. I watched it multiple times. I was the same way. I'm like, they all strapped in. I don't know. His they got I have a video of the n the nurse that ⁓ that found her because ⁓ she survived for a little bit. But I don't know if they said I didn't read if Jason: Was that an American woman? ⁓ I wouldn't have wanted to survive that. I'd want that to have been instantaneous. I bungee jumped before 100 and... 20, 130 feet over in Montana when I was in high school. I got a lot of family that live up there. I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I bugged you jump not by the weights, by the ankles. Like they had this stuff tied to my ankles and they raised that thing up there and it'll make you tingle. And then when I jumped for that split second that you're floating, I mean, you feel free as a bird. Bryan: Yeah. Jason: It's it's peaceful Bryan: Well hopefully she was felt peace until she hit the ground, you know. Jason: And. Yeah, but would you saying that she was alive for a little bit? I wouldn't have wanted that. I mean, if I'm going to hit the ground and I want it to be instantaneous, not feel nothing because yeah, the feeling of peace jumping or flying is not bad. I've done it, but. Bryan: But here's the story of the nurse fonder. Jason: She taught her she was gonna be okay. Stop lying. Bryan: What do you w what do you do if you'd a nurse? Jason: You just comfort her. don't tell her she's gonna stop. Just don't lie to people when they're dying. Just hold her. Am I okay? Am I gonna be okay? I'd just be like, let's not talk about that right now. Bryan: Okay. Let's look at it in a different aspect. You you believe in the Lord and you believe you're going to heaven, right? So if somebody told you it was gonna be okay when you die and or are they lying to you? Jason: Okay. Yeah ⁓ I don't know what her faith is. I don't. Huh? Bryan: But you don't know if they lied to you. Then they tell you you're gonna be okay. ⁓ Jason: I'm okay and she dies. She's not gonna know whether or not she was gonna be okay anyways. She don't know if that girl lied, right? Cause she died. So she's dead. She's done. There's no more. But I'm just saying, damn. I just, God damn it, Brian. Why are you? Bryan: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to understand. Why why wouldn't you why wouldn't you tell somebody who is in the worst possible position they can be in in their life that you're not that you're gonna be okay, knowing they're gonna die? Why wouldn't that be comforting? Hey, look, you you really you fucked up. You ain't gonna make it. Is there anybody you would like me to tell? Yeah, you ⁓ you you probably ain't gonna make it. Jason: Geez! If you got hit, then hit. I'm not saying that, I'm No, but that's right. I'm not gonna tell them that. Yeah, no. I'm not telling them that. I'm not telling them that. I'll comfort them, Brian. You can comfort people without lying to them. Bryan: Even if ⁓ But you're not lying to them if you spiritual and you think that they're gonna be okay. If if you a spiritual per this is what I can't understand about spirit, and I'm not talking about you, I'm just talking about spiritual people anyway. They get they worry about death, you know, or they worry about what's gonna happen to them before death or what someone says. And in my mind, you should be welcoming death when you go because you believe that the afterlife is much better than where you're at now. So whenever you go, you go in peace. Jason: Okay. Okay. Bryan: So if you telling somebody you're gonna be okay, you mean that the afterlife is much better than what you can have here. You should not fear death. Jason: Yes, that's different. if Holly is, if Holly's in a car wreck and I pull up on her and I go over there and she's not gonna make it. And I know for sure she's not. And I'm holding her and getting a few little talks and she's like, am I okay? And I'll be like, yeah, sweetheart, you know you're gonna be okay. I can say that without a doubt because I know she's gonna go to a better place. Cause I know her heart. I don't know that woman. I don't know if she's saved. I'm going to witness her. ⁓ Yes it is, my belief it is. So I'm going to witness to her and ask her if she wants to accept Jesus Christ. Bryan: It doesn't matter if you save. That girl ain't got that kind of time to be witness to. She just wants to be somebody to tell her that she's not alone when she's dying. Jason: Aye. Watch that movie, was Robert DeVall, where he's a Pentecostal preacher? What do you mean, Pentecostal? Now, I forget what the movie is. You gotta look up Robert DeVall movies and look where he's a preacher, or just Google and watch that movie. He goes up to a bad accident where they're not gonna make it. And he witnessed it to them and they accept Jesus Christ before they died. Bryan: That's the whole problem right there. It's Pentecostal. Jason: There's always time, There's always time. Until you take that last breath. Bryan: Alright, I got one last thing to put up that thing to bring something to this is not funny. ⁓ it's kinda I don't know how I want to say this. It's kinda alarming to know somebody's this stupid. All right. You'll see in a second. I don't know if you can get any more stupid than that. Jason: You You Can I say something? Bryan: You can say whatever you want, man. Jason: Why would you support that? Bryan: Why I don't support that? Jason: Yeah, that's no different than what you're just telling me about telling somebody it's okay. You're gonna be okay when you know they're dying. I mean you're just fell 130 feet and splatted to ground. No, you're not gonna be okay. I'm not telling you. I'm gonna love you and say you want me to tell anybody anything for you. I'm not telling you you're gonna be okay and give you false hope. That's not what I'm about. But you can support that. She ain't lying. There's some validity to that. You are mixed. You're a mixture. You're dad, you're mom. there's gender. Gender doesn't mix like that, though. But I like her thinking. She's a critical ⁓ thinker. Bryan: Yeah, that's a that's a little spec. I don't know about critical thinker, but she's she's got a lot of critical thinking to do. Jason: ⁓ shit, that shit cracked me. And she had damn ears on too. Yeah, she identifies as a cat or a fox. but I just can't catch my breath with this one, dude. Bryan: Sh I guess she's a furry ⁓ you got anything? All right. All right. Thanks everyone for joining us tonight. It was our pleasure spending time with you. Until next time, this is the Sense and Senses Podcast. I'm Brian. He's mixed. That's Jason. Peace. Jason: And I'm mixed. So