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Episode 8- Kyle Jones · Pushin' the Cushion

• Slim Pushins: What's up everybody? Welcome to Pushing the Cushion Garage Beers. There he is. Corby Scherb: You just froze. Kyle Jones: Stop. Slim Pushins: As always, my co-host, a guy that for some reason alters every can that he drinks out of so that nobody else drinks from his can, Corby Sherb. Corby Scherb: We're cooked. Trying to reconnect. There we are, we're back. That was close. Slim Pushins: I just introdu I just introduced you. Corby Scherb: ⁓ you were frozen. How does Jim always put the comments up live here though? That's what you gotta work on, buddy. ⁓ I can't wait. Just an absolute train wreck. Kyle Jones: Like perfect timing. Slim Pushins: This is gonna be a disaster. I gotta put it on I gotta I could have pull up li you wanna introduce our guest? Corby Scherb: Yeah, as soon as he shows up, ⁓ if you can figure out which link to click on. ⁓ no. Slim Pushins: He's here. You don't see him ⁓ this has gone bad. Corby Scherb: ⁓ this is this is bad. You didn't add him in. ⁓ the one and only. No, he's here? I can't see him. I have two screens, just me and you. Slim Pushins: What do you mean? Kyle Jones: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Ha ⁓ this is going south. Corby Scherb: DM's looking for a bridge right now. Kyle Jones: Ha Slim Pushins: This is going south. I don't know. Corby Scherb: What'd you do? There he is. He's coming. There he is. The one and only, the Kyle Jones. Slim Pushins: You're there? Kyle Jones: Okay, okay. I know about that. ⁓ yeah. Slim Pushins: Hey thanks for filling in for Jim. Jim's on ⁓ one show suspension for cheating last weekend. So we couldn't we couldn't think of a better co host than the one and only Kyle Jones. Kyle Jones: I heard. That's great. That's great. What what did he get less support? Corby Scherb: They got popped for a nose wing too far forward. Yeah. Yeah. Slim Pushins: ⁓ Kyle Jones: That was way too far forward. Yeah, it'll do it. I got busted ⁓ twenty fourteen for that or I didn't even know the rule. And they were like, Yeah, you can't run it like that. ⁓ okay. Corby Scherb: You might know more than all of us. I mean, like, is is there truly like a major arrow help with that? Kyle Jones: Not with a three ⁓ five. We could Yeah, I mean like in the four ten, three sixty stuff you can get away with moving the nose wing up and down, you know, cutting your post at a certain angle and and there's there's tons of stuff you could do there. But three ⁓ five stuff, yeah. But the the front is so heavy already with the three ⁓ five steel plop motor, so it's ⁓ it's not really I don't know why it's so to be honest. Corby Scherb: You know, that the the three ⁓ five we're pushing anyways. So they get people like Jimmy Gardner? Kyle Jones: Well, I mean, I I guess they have a rule so you don't just stick the nose away and clear out in front of the front bumper, right? I g I guess they've gotta have something. But I ⁓ it it doesn't I don't think it has that big of an arrow advantage unless you're at like maybe devil's bowl or something. Corby Scherb: Right. Right. Slim Pushins: Big tracks. All right, Corby I got the I figured out. You got it on the far right hand side there's some options. One of ⁓ says chat. Push chat and then above above that it says public chat. Kyle Jones: That's right. Corby Scherb: Yeah, no. Clicked it. Chelsea's in. Slim Pushins: She's in. She says Jim refuses to ⁓ offer any technical support. Corby Scherb: We needed some Kyle Jones like ⁓ technical driving this last week in Ardmore. Ardmore was kinda cool, man. It it slicked off top to bottom, it never actually took rubber. ⁓ I'll say it again, I think Ardmore is super underrated track around here. ⁓ but ⁓ Landon Thompson finally got him a win. ⁓ he had a little little weight issue. He I guess he didn't know the rule about the you gotta have weight six inches in front of the motor or the leading edge of the motor plate. ⁓ he went across the scales first time. Kyle Jones: Betweens. Yeah. Corby Scherb: Yeah, he he went across the scales the first time and was light and turned around, came back across and he he passed weight that time. Yeah. Yeah. So th some good old like ⁓ some heart of Texas scales or something like that. Slim Pushins: Твої понс лайт и твоє понс heavy. Kyle Jones: I think. That's physically. Haha yeah, no lines. That's funny. Corby Scherb: But ⁓ he got the win, Ryder LePlant got ⁓ second, Ryder actually ⁓ he let him get around him, Ryder says his tires glazed up. We had a long red, ⁓ Gary Owens and a couple other drivers got tangled up, but Slim Pushins: Evidently that's an understatement. They got ⁓ it was a half hour it took ⁓ to get those cars apart. Corby Scherb: They should have just drug ⁓ off together at that point. It it was pretty bad. But Slim Pushins: You know those you know those guys were on the spot. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. What about you Kyle? Where are you at? Kyle Jones: ⁓ I'm out in my camper right now 'cause my son is probably terrorizing my house. So I had to come out here and and talk with you guys for a little bit. But ⁓ no, it's ⁓ back home for today. I I just got back from India ⁓ Indiana this this morning. It's been a long couple of days just flying and out. ⁓ went and ⁓ tested at ⁓ Lincoln Park last night, Putnamville and ⁓ made some good laps, got some really good feedback with cars that the Terry England are. So really happy, looking forward to running make a speedway this weekend and Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Kyle Jones: Yeah, some good headway to midget week. Corby Scherb: Yep. That's cool man. That's Slim Pushins: When d when does Midget Week start? Kyle Jones: Next Tuesday. So I guess this this coming Tuesday. Corby Scherb: That's cool, man. That's that's a huge opportunity. Slim Pushins: What is the public two how many ⁓ how many tracks does ⁓ midget week have? Like how many races? Kyle Jones: They're all different. So what is it Tuesday through Sunday, whatever having that is five nights right there? So ⁓ all different tracks. Paragon, Lincoln Park, Bloomington, ⁓ Tri State, Kokomo. Right. ⁓ Circle City. Slim Pushins: All legendary tracks. Kyle Jones: Yeah, yeah. All curved up bowl rings. ⁓ Man, I really like ⁓ Futonville. You know, we wouldn't tested there last night. It was just me there by myself. We took two cars and it and just a midget is we put a curb up there and turn one. And it's a incredible. Like you'd think you'd have to have multiple cars out there putting on pushing up a ledge, but I was able to build my own curb with just one car. So that's Corby Scherb: That's why's why we had the legendary Kyle Jones on. Slim Pushins: Do wa do you have a favorite of the five? Corby Scherb: That's cool, man. Kyle Jones: Yeah, it's it's it's a pretty badass place. Corby Scherb: The dirt's way different up there, man. ⁓ it's a huge deal for you and and Tim Engler. ⁓ that that's that's massive for you. Like I say, ⁓ you're like the last like local guy who's really made it to the big time, you know. ⁓ you're still chasing and that's a huge opportunity. Kyle Jones: Is that Yeah, yeah, man. I'm ⁓ I'm blessed for the opportunity for sure. Like ⁓ it it kinda came out of nowhere. You know, last year Tim ⁓ got a hold of me to go run a few races, just ⁓ kind of fill his schedule with what he had going on and and ⁓ made the best of it. You know, we went out and ran second in the PA speed week points and won one of those extreme route law races and then after that it was Hey, I wanna I wanna go race with you when we can. ⁓ so and then the next year it was like, Hey, let's go do as many as we can. So after Chili Bowl. But ⁓ yeah, super super awesome opportunity with to go with ⁓ Tim Bangler, a legend of the sport, right? Like I mean his name his name's up there was Swindell, Kinser, Wolfgang to me, you know. Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. For sure. same man, you talk about, you Chili Bowl and stuff like that. ⁓ I believe you are like the last local guy who stuck the feature there. What what's what's that like pushing out for the A there? Kyle Jones: Man, that was that was really cool. And ⁓ probably the highlight, ⁓ definitely a highlight, but it the the highlight of my racing career probably to run to not only make the show, we made the show all the stress was off at that point, right? Like it was all butterflies and nervousness in the B main. I just know we had to s finish top seven and I think we started fifth in that B. You know, so I'm I'm over here politicking to guys around me. I'm like, Hey guys, I just wanna finish this race in the top seven. I don't care where we finish here as long as we're all the top seven. And and sure enough we ended up making it and then ⁓ started sixteenth. At that point I would said, Whatever happens, happens. And to end up finishing sixth in that deal and run all the way up to almost the top five was pretty incredible. ⁓ you know, it was ⁓ it was awesome. And and that was my goal. I always had the goal that I wanted to be the highest finishing Texan at Chili Bowl and and to get that and and not and cross that off my list is pretty cool. I mean, someday somebody will bust it off there and and go win one of these things. Hopefully it's me, but Corby Scherb: Right. Kyle Jones: You know, it's until until then I get to I get to hold that statute. Corby Scherb: That's cool man. ⁓ 'cause it's not just in the midget there with Chili Bowl. Like you've always been really fast inside that building. You've been there for endless amounts of years. Slim Pushins: That's pretty cool. Kyle Jones: Yeah. Maybe we sell home. Corby Scherb: No, you ain't that old man. Kyle Jones: Yeah, it's it's been it's been like I've done twelve or I think this will be my thirteenth or twelfth chili bowls now, so it's ⁓ it's pretty wild to think like that. Twelve, thirteen consecutive years in a row and then before then the shootout and it's ⁓ and yeah, I got my golden driller from the the eco tank data there. So it's ⁓ that place is really special to me for sure. Corby Scherb: Right. Yeah, that's cool, man. Yeah, you've always been super fast inside of there. It's not easy. It's it's different, I I think, that ⁓ the chili bowl. One the track typically is a little bit different every year and ⁓ it's a whole different animal from a micro to ⁓ even the eco and then to a full size midget. It's ⁓ I don't think that people understand like how fast the fence posts go by you. Kyle Jones: I think I that place is just like everywhere else. Until you go see it in person, you don't realize how T V doesn't do it justice. You know, you watch Syllable on Flow or TV, which is great, but if you see that place in person there it's a it's a whole nother animal, you know, of how how fast we're actually going around there and how quick decisions need to be made. ⁓ I mean, your whole chili bowl and I found out the hard way about two years ago, your whole chili bowl can be hidden in one turn. And ⁓ and and then it one turn one heat one bad heat race and that's over. So it's ⁓ Corby Scherb: For sure. Yeah. Kyle Jones: It's it's pretty incredible. Like how ph you things have to go your way, but there's also a reason why the same fifteen guys are usually in the A main every Corby Scherb: Right. Yeah, it's a it's a place that you gotta try to think be think ahead of yourself and I don't even know how how you can possibly consistently think ahead. Kyle Jones: Right. It is tough. I mean everything happens so fast and the biggest thing is just you don't get laps anywhere, right? Like nowhere like that. You can go try to find somewhere. But like the coin you can go run to coin at the end of the year in December, it's an indoor race, but it's not the same. But that's one day, you know, out of the whole year. It's no different than going to Chili Bowl, so it's ⁓ Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. Yeah. The same same as Port City. I mean Port City's such a different shape than the Chili Bowl. ⁓ the Chili Bowl's just so round. But ⁓ super cool place, man. It's been around forever and ever. ⁓ you know, like I said, you grew up but not far from K S P ⁓ grew up racing at Cowtown. ⁓ Kyle Jones: Right. It is. Yeah, yeah, I grew up like ⁓ I guess it was about three miles away from if you you went straight across the field and across the drag strip, we were on the other side of the tree line, right, where I grew up living. And ⁓ the I remember they had the jet cars out of the drag strip and I was a little kid and I had the sliding glass door on my bedroom and they had those jet cars sitting there and that that glass door would just sit there and pulsate with those jet cars. It was pretty incredible being that close to that stuff. Didn't realize how like cool it was back then, I just thought it was normal, right? Like I'm just growing up right next to three three racetracks and you get to going around the country to talking to people and it's like there was two dirt tracks side by side next to each other? Yeah, and they raced on the same night. Corby Scherb: It was crazy. Yeah, I remember ⁓ the first time the first time that I would ⁓ Jimmy. Slim Pushins: Ryder w Ryder wants to know where the corndog guy is. He's on a he's he's on a one show suspension, Ryder. Corby Scherb: I remember meeting you ⁓ the first time Logan ever raced. ⁓ Logan was the first one to get into cars and ⁓ we went to ⁓ I think that you reminded me today, it was called the big chill, a big huge micro race. There was like sixty four cars there and we didn't have a clue what we were doing. We knew Jason tired, Jason let us both drive his micro once and they were talking about passing points, and I was like, What the hell is passing points? And I went up both days and I looked at the board for for ⁓ Friday and Saturday and I was like, Logan, you made the A and he was like, Now what? And was like, I don't know. I don't know, dude. Kyle Jones: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Pretty sure he got lapped three times at both A's, but ⁓ he he made both of ⁓ Slim Pushins: Right. Kyle Jones: That race was no joke. I think that was the ASCS two days. I think ⁓ that might have been like the the later part of ASCS two is kinda starting to go away. But but still, yeah, sixty cars, some of the best guys around, like now that are still racing even. And ⁓ 'cause I I I know like Aaron Ricehold came down a few times for that. ⁓ and I mean and then ⁓ Randy Bacon had been there, I'm pretty sure at one point. But yeah, Chris for Christopher Bell I know. Corby Scherb: Yeah. ⁓ for sure. Gary Taylor ran it. Yeah. Kyle Jones: Yeah, it's ⁓ pretty pretty incredible for sure to see the amount of talent that came out and just raced around here and made their way up. Corby Scherb: Yeah. No, it was cool. Catan was cool. Slim Pushins: I would've liked to have been around for the cowtown days. All I ever hear is just awesome stories about that place. Kyle Jones: It's cool. It was cool. I got to race one sprint car race there and and I hate that. Like I I made my sprint car debut in twelves and then I raced like a few signs in thirteen and I really started racing my car in fourteen. And then Caltown was gone I think in twelves. It was the last year of the sports. Corby Scherb: And okay. Yeah. Something like that. But man, like the old school KSP days, like you, Marcus, Chad, George White, Jeb, John Ricketts, like it would get slick all the way to the wall. I remember i even like my first sprint car race, I think it was in fourteen and it was just like, dude, like how? How are these guys this fast? Kyle Jones: Yeah, that that I the three ⁓ five stuff around here I feel like doesn't get enough credit for what it is. ⁓ and maybe it does, but maybe I just feel like it doesn't because you look right there at at fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and there were guys there were five of us, six of us that were either going to be national champions or finish second to the national championship or Texas State future Texas State champions and t I mean between Jeff, Marcus, Chad, ⁓ Johnny, me Corby Scherb: Yeah. Kyle Jones: I mean, yeah, ⁓ George, like you said, that was it was it was a like a stupid a fight every single week. Corby Scherb: I'm pretty sure one of y'all was upside down every single weekend. Kyle Jones: What yeah, if we were if one of us was not upside down that we were not trying hard enough, that's for sure. Corby Scherb: It's cool 'cause like you talk about that right now. We have, you know, a a bunch of young kids right now, with Landon Thompson, Ryder LePlant, ⁓ Carson Bolden, ⁓ Braxton Weager. There there's a lot of guys like like what you're talking about. All you guys were young chasing. ⁓ you know, it seems like you got out of Texas quick enough to to try to keep ⁓ climbing up the ladder. ⁓ it's just not easy doing what you're doing right now, you know, and it hasn't been easy ever for you. You know, you did you wasn't born into bukoos of money or anything like that. Slim Pushins: So much talent. Kyle Jones: Right. It it is tough, man. Like it's it's a tough way to try to go make a living, that's that's for sure. And it and you're only as good as the people around you. And that's that's what I kinda try to tell people like kids or whoever wants to try to do this. You you can't be too good for an opportunity for one. Like it could be the ugliest looking race car, but you better go jump in it if somebody's willing to put you in it. You know? And or and you gotta work as hard as you can. But you can't you ever think that you're too good to go work on something, right? Like it's just how bad do you want it, you know? Corby Scherb: Yeah. Yeah. Say you know Kyle Jones: And yeah, some of the the the kids around here, they are they are pretty good. You know, I haven't got to race much with them, but I got to race the you know, the Texas Sprint Nationals right here and then got to go run Hunt County, the Speed Speed Day show. And ⁓ that was that was cool. And then yeah, the Speed Day show. And then the other race at Kinnadale, you I just showed up and and ran that car for Ryan Hall. ⁓ but yeah, there's some there's some kids around here that are that are good enough to go do more. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: It's a speed day show. Well you you still carry enough clout that I can tell you when when they see your name in the lineup, these kids are like son of a bitch. Kyle Kyle Jones is here. Corby Scherb: That's what I was gonna ask him, like what what's that feel like to show up and be and be that guy, you know? Kyle Jones: I don't know, I don't I don't treat it like that, right? Like I feel like I'm just coming home. You know, I get excited just to race around around home sometimes 'cause I don't get the opportunity after hell I I don't think I raced at Kennedale all year last year. And then ⁓ and the year before that I did a little bit, but then this year I was just happy to be back there. I'm pissed off I finished second both nights, but I I was happy to be there nonetheless. Corby Scherb: For sure, man. Slim Pushins: Well, you've you've peppered in enough local races that somehow you w nobody can get you out of the top five of the slim pushins power rig. Kyle Jones: They keep trying, they keep trying. I'm slim pushing back. I'm staying up there. Slim Pushins: You know, it the completely worthless, fictitious power rankings. It's over formulated and overplayed out, but you know, it's always Kyle Jones in the top five. Kyle Jones: Hey, I tell you, we were at Hunt County and and Ryan was so upset with the ⁓ unfortunate track conditions that we were about to have. ⁓ he was like, just go out there, if you don't feel like you can win this thing, just go out there and pull off. And in the back of my head, I'm like, that's just gonna kill my average, and I can't do that. So ⁓ so I I they ended up ⁓ know, working and doing something. I was just so happy to see them do something, put in some effort, make us feel at least a little bit better about what what the situation was. And come to find out, I talked to Kevin the next day. Do you know who was in the water truck? Kevin was in the water truck rolling around there. Yes. So he tells me he's like, How'd you why why'd you think I knew exactly where to run and go win that race? He was rolling around the water truck, putting water down wherever we wanted it. Corby Scherb: No. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Really? ⁓ yeah. Slim Pushins: You just you're you just justified all of the completely wasted hours that Jim has spent formulating formulating this whole Excel spreadsheet that somehow that was in the back of your mind. Kyle Jones: Yeah. I'm trying to just go forward, man. I can't pull off. Slim Pushins: Completely worthless. Maybe we'll get a banner made or something for whoever ends v it looks like it's gonna be Stubblefield from at this point that ⁓ nobody can get him a DJ. Kyle Jones: He's rolling well. Corby Scherb: Same, I mean Colby Subfield, ⁓ you can't ever forget about him. He he's he's been around for quite a while, he's always fast. Kyle Jones: I remember Kobe coming up about when I was going to sprint cars and I knew watching him from micros, I knew he was hitting pretty good and obviously he's done well, so I'm happy for them for sure. Slim Pushins: John Rickett said, I know when I see Kyle's name in my heat race I cuss. Kyle Jones: Yeah, 'cause he's a rolling road blog, probably. How am I gonna get around this? Yeah. Slim Pushins: ⁓ There's a lot of ⁓ like that. Corby Scherb: How'd you get started in racing, man? Like what what what brought you to ⁓ making it to where you're at now? Kyle Jones: ⁓ you know, my uncle Sonny Miller, he been working for Smiley's for forever, but before Smileys he owned his own ⁓ race shop right here in Kennedale. It's called the Dirt Track Shop. And ⁓ you know, he supplied race parts and built race cars for years and ⁓ my my f my dad also raced. He raced modified and stuff and I'd so I basically just grew up with a racetrack, typical story, right? And we got he my uncle so he built us some go karts, me and my twin sister and we wouldn't start racing go karts at like four or five. And then you know, it was just gangbusters after that. It was just the next step, the next step, and then we got finally into micros. Well, before then I flipped my go-kar a few times when I was eight or so and I said, Hey, I'm done. I don't wanna do this. Like I don't wanna I keep I kept regul I think I flipped like three weeks in a row. And they weren't hard from what I don't remember, but they weren't bad, you know, from what they told me. And they were like I like, No, I'm done. Well, a year later I saw I I don't know where I did where we were at, but I saw some junior mini stocks, you pintos and bustangs. And I was nine years old and they were like twelve to sixteen year old junior mini stocks. And I said, I want to run one those. You know, they don't flip. So I wanna do that. And I did that for about three or four years and then fell in love with the micro after that. You know, that's I I was a little bit older, so I got back into the open wheel stuff and my stepdad had a lot to do with that too, you know, going to the open wheels and stuff with ⁓ Bill Eslick. And ⁓ yeah, after that it was just Met up with Jerry Heffler with Best of Services and he took me a long way. Without him I wouldn't Corby Scherb: Yeah, Jeremy Heffler's been a huge, ⁓ huge impact on you and your career. Kyle Jones: Yes. Without him I would not have anything. I would not be doing any kind of racing that I'd be do that I'm doing now. And that's why vessels Corby Scherb: I mean I'm not I'm not talking bad about Hefler, but yet like you're talking about some of the midgets of like dude it doesn't matter how it looks, like get in and go race, you know. There was a time that he seemed to like buy up every type of midget that was around here at the time just to put people in them and ⁓ it you know, people like you, ⁓ somehow was able to just take that and keep carrying. Kyle Jones: We had we had like five different chassis with five different motor combinations at one point. And not not a one of them was like even close to another. And we didn't know what we were doing back then. That was w the most incredible thing was how well we ran regionally with them, you know. Then we went to the national guy. Like I went to Mitch Week in twenty seventeen or or fifteen, I can't remember what year it was, but I went with one of the Jeremy's cars and it was one of the nicest ones of the bunch, but those guys ate me up. But but because I did that Slim Pushins: Or nothing. Kyle Jones: I went up there with what we had. I ran, I didn't make a show, I didn't run good at all. But ⁓ Scott Petrie of Petrie Motorsport saw me and how I was working hard and trying to make stuff happen. He called me that that December and said, Hey, ⁓ I've got a brand new spike or it's a stealth car with a ⁓ Toyota motor and I want you to come run it for me. It's chilly boy. And Dave Darlin's gonna be your teammate. And I said, No, not really. He was like, Yeah. He's like, You work. You worked your butt off, like I wanna help you. And up to that point that was, you know, the nicest car I've ever been in and and it and then I made the most of that opportunity running the s ⁓ the A main ⁓ on the Freeland night and made it to the C Mate on Saturday. You know, so it's just all about making the most of your opportunities and like I said, not being too good for something because it doesn't look the way it should or it's not pretty. Slim Pushins: Yeah ⁓ three look nine bit with C name on that. Scott Bradley said he needs you to get a win with that Indiana motor so he can bump up his stock. Kyle Jones: That motor Yeah, that motor is ⁓ yeah, I thought the the three ⁓ five motor, that's no lie. That thing is wicked fast. ⁓ you need to tell Ryan Hall not to sell it 'cause right now it it's i i it's ⁓ I'd love to just have that thing whenever I would rain out or whatever and just go run it around here 'cause that ⁓ it's bad it's wicked fast for sure. Corby Scherb: Is it is it your Belleville winning car fast? Kyle Jones: ⁓ man I don't know. I'd love to get that seventy nine on a bigger track and find out. But I'm telling you what, that that nine car it's got a Myers versus an engine in it. That that thing is stupid. I just Slim Pushins: That's the one you won last year with? Kyle Jones: I I've won the last two years with it and I was the first one to cross the check and flag the year before that. But I I was I was not declared the winner. Slim Pushins: ⁓ yeah. Corby Scherb: That's right. Slightly. Slim Pushins: We were all watching there's we have a group text we were all watching and we were bummed. We figured something was up because they were delaying and you coming back around to the other side of the big billboard. Kyle Jones: Yeah, that was fun. Corby Scherb: It doesn't it doesn't really help your case, you know. You have your mom in the stands and she gives, you know, just the constant live updates about all that stuff. Kyle Jones: Yeah, yeah, that was a tough deal, man. ⁓ way unfortunate. But then to go back the next two years and just do the same thing, just go go out and win with that with John Webster and Joe Schneider. They they just give me a great car every time and it's funny, they they treat it like a chili bowl car. You know, we get done with Bellville, they take a lit, do maintenance, put a car cover over it, sit in the corner. First first of July comes, she gets pulled out, goes to the dyno, Chad Cook tunes her up, and then we'll go back to Bellville with it. Slim Pushins: That thing was bad fat ⁓ I was out there l last year. We talked a little while last year. I was out there with the Estes and we ⁓ we pulled everything up and went to ⁓ Nebraska. ⁓ we we didn't have the we didn't have the cars, the motors at that place on Friday night, but ⁓ it was awesome seeing you pull it off two years in a row. Three years in a row. Two two two ish years in a row. Kyle Jones: Yeah, two is yeah. No, it's it's it's cool, man. Like ⁓ people keep asking are you gonna go back? And I'm like, I've got to. Like I I love that place. Like I I it's stupid. You go back to Derby Epler, this is a funny story. I ⁓ I always wanted to run Bellville. My stepdad, you know, he was all about midget racing and he told me if you want to ever go fast you go to Belleville. And I'd never been there. ⁓ you know, I'd I'd I think we drove by it on our way to Nebraska for or the IMCA Banquet and we stopped by there. And you just look over that guard row where you come on the track where you go to the infield and it's like this place is massive. And it's so funny the funny story, ⁓ I con Derby Heffler into going to the midget nationals in twenty fifteen. ⁓ of course Derby had bottled his midges, but he didn't know about the midget racing, right? Like he didn't know what like worldweight race or national midget racing, right? So I was like, Yeah, they've got this race in Kansas that pays like a thousand start. Like we should just take a car and go run it. Slim Pushins: It's cool place. Kyle Jones: He's like, yeah, okay. And I showed him the picture of the track. And if you go Google, you go Google image search, Melville High Banks, and it's got the big track, but it's got the small track on the inside. So I zoomed in on that small track. I said, Yeah, here it is. Here's Melville. And we we got there. And he goes, This I am not responsible for anything that's about to happen to you out here. This place is way too big. But ⁓ I'm so glad I got to go do with the midget now that they don't do it anymore. Slim Pushins: Patrick Stasser wants to know what's more fun at Bellville, three ⁓ five or a midget? Kyle Jones: So when I got the call to go do the ⁓ the three ⁓ five, I was like, ⁓ this will be okay. You know, I've ran a midget around here. It's not gonna be that, you know, as fast as we were going then. But you're getting after the three ⁓ five around there. And it's easy for me to say, 'cause the three ⁓ five I get to drive is just a slot car. It it works so good, right? Like I I have a blast anytime I get to run that. But I'm a big midget guy and I would I love the run of the midget there. So I'd I gotta go with the midget. Slim Pushins: Yeah. So s who's this? Coy Bullard told us to ask you about running a mini stock with a light on top. Kyle Jones: Yeah, so Sonny Miller when I was I was also nine, like I was ten, nine, ten years old, eleven, whatever. And I kept telling my uncle, I said, ⁓ I'm going as fast as I can. And I wasn't. Like they were I was not competitive like at that age, but I was also racing against fifteen year olds, but regardless. And he goes, Okay, we're gonna find out. So he put this light on top of my you know, right above my we're the name plate would be above the on the on the roof of the car. And he said he put a micro switch on it and he said, every time you're full throttle this this light will light up. I said, okay. So I remember I went out there for the first time with it. I got out of the car and I said, So how'd that light look? And he said, ⁓ it flickered down the back straightaway once or twice. So to come to find out, the story I like to say is I wasn't really reaching the pedal. Like there's I was my little bitty legs, I was sitting on foam mud plugs and ⁓ you know phone books, back when we had phone books, right? And I couldn't really get all full throttle. So once we got full throttle, I was good. And that light he left the light on there though, and everybody loved it. Everybody talked about it. Corby Scherb: I let's be honest, I mean sunny sunny's about as dry as they come when it comes to stuff like that. You know? Kyle Jones: Yeah, exactly. Corby Scherb: But yeah, man, you've ⁓ you've already had a a huge ⁓ a huge career as it is right now and ⁓ it's clear that you're still chasing. Like what's what's the goal? Where's where's Kyle Jones wanna be? Slim Pushins: Just Kyle Jones: Man, I there's some racetracks that I want to go do. Like there's still some on my bucket list. I've hit a lot of them that I've that I've been blessed to go do with multiple different car owners and people and ⁓ but as far as you know what I'm gonna be able to race and go run and and what I'd like to do is it's it's just all about who gives me opportunity at that point, right? Like w who's who's ringing the phone 'cause I I rarely turn down something, but that's ⁓ I don't know. I I we're gonna go race a bunch with Tim and I've got ⁓ some race with Corey Joner, Jon Joner Motorsports and John Webster in the nine car. Actually gonna go do ⁓ the three old time Nebraska Speed Week with them and ⁓ another car that he's got, not the Belleville car, just ⁓ a spare car. And ⁓ I don't know, like if I got a call to go do a bunch of four ten racing, I would do it. But you know, I've got a family now and ⁓ getting pretty serious with my fiance now. So ⁓ just Corby Scherb: Yeah. Congrats. Slim Pushins: Congratulations, I saw that. Kyle Jones: Yeah, I appreciate it. I appreciate it. She's she's been she's been one for a while and I've I've just I've had it. I've just just tried to find the right time to to make it happen. But ⁓ yeah, so I don't know. I ⁓ I wanna I definitely wanna be around for whatever my son wants to do, you know, on the road stuff. You know, and he's gonna be three here in about a month. So I know like a couple years here, he's he may want to start doing some racing. And he may not. ⁓ mom wants him to do some horse stuff. Like he wants him to be a roper and apparently they make more money. So I'm all about that. Slim Pushins: Dylan Raimi told us to ask you about your horse riding career. Kyle Jones: Yeah. Yeah, I don't have one of those. I I almost didn't have I I almost got knocked off and not didn't have much of a racing career. That that horse started bucking and I jumped off that thing and if it was about I don't know, thirty feet further I'd have hit a pavement road instead of grass and that grass was hard enough. Slim Pushins: I'm reading these comments. Geist Mercer said ask Ask about the Nighty One Three features in a row. Or about winning in my dwarf car with a the door open. Kyle Jones: With the door open. Yeah, so well that's what I guess I'm gonna be able to do some cool stuff, you know, and and ⁓ the the night we won all three classes at Mount Mount Increase Speedway was pretty cool. ⁓ that was pretty special. I won the the sprint car race and the micro race and then jumped in a a mod light for a guy I I just kinda met that day and his driver didn't show up and we won that that race that night. They had they had like thirty cars that night with mod lights. ⁓ but yeah guys, what he's talking about is a Kinnadel. We didn't latch the the door good on those dwarf cars. They have a door and it swings open like a suicide door. And that door came open in the heat race and just was wide open the whole time. And we're passing cars left and right and that door's just swung wide open. I didn't even know it. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Kyle Jones: Did we lose Corby? Slim Pushins: Yeah, he just sent us a text, said my it keeps freezing. He'll get back on. So I don't know you've been in and out of town. I don't know if you heard Dylan Raimi had ⁓ horrible luck in in Ardmore. Like flat ti flat tire on the way up there, flat tire on the way back, or four ⁓ he hit five total flat tires. Kyle Jones: All that. Slim Pushins: Like he was calling phone he was phoning friends, trying to get people to help. We passed I didn't know at the time. We passed them on the highway. There were like two or three trucks lined up. And ⁓ I found out later that it was him. Kyle Jones: Yeah, I ⁓ we had a problem like that once and the axle was bent on the on the trailer. But my god yeah, I saw that. Five tires and one one run is that's pretty tough. I cannot believe that. Slim Pushins: Corby you're Corby ever had ⁓ more than a couple flat tires on a road trip? Corby Scherb: No, not that I yeah, I mean, one time we were go we were going to Haggertstown, Maryland, and ⁓ we had a buddy drive and we were racing motorcycles, Lucas and Merle were and ⁓ we had a blowout somewhere in Arkansas and ⁓ you know, back then we all just drove vans and Merle had twenties on his van, so we put a spare tire on it. We drove it based from Arkansas to Maryland, it was still like another twenty hours. And we got up there and I mean his tires were destroyed on that thing. So then we're in Maryland and ⁓ we found a junkyard so we could go buy another spare to at least like put the two twenties on the front and spares on the back. I mean like one of the most sketchy junkyards I've ever been in in my life. And so we had we drove all the way back from Maryland with two ⁓ spares on the back. We we were we were the coolest people pulling in the pits that night 'cause we rocking black twenties on the front with spare tires on the back, no hubcaps, nothing. Kyle Jones: But possible. Nice. That's awesome. Corby Scherb: But no, I never had no five. Can't do that. Slim Pushins: Wait, why? Kyle Jones: If I if I started blowing out five of them, I'd probably just turn around, Dylan. I wouldn't have went to the race right. Some would tell me I need to get I don't need to be there. Slim Pushins: That's true. Corby Scherb: Right. Slim Pushins: Not Dylan. Dylan's a trooper. Kyle Jones: I know Quinn that means. Slim Pushins: He said ⁓ two on the way up there and three on the way back and a bent front axle. Corby Scherb: That's wild. Kyle Jones: Is wild. Slim Pushins: Brian Dieber said we had three on the way to Willis one year. ⁓ Jason Jason Tyre Jason Tyre's awake. Speaking of Jason Tyre, what's the r he was helping you at Speed Day and then I heard like he just disappeared? Where'd he go? Corby Scherb: That was cool place too. Kyle Jones: That was a fun place. Yes. That was a fun I think he said he was like, I'm going to the concession stand and all of a sudden we're we're hanging out. Well, I guess we didn't have much to do either, right? So like ⁓ Rye was like, Where'd Jason going? I don't know where he went. That was like thirty minutes ago I thought. So I don't know what he I don't know what he ended up doing, but he did his job great. Like he he got what he needed to do done and and he could do whatever he wants after that. Slim Pushins: Jim said he was down there helping gimpy Ryan with a b ⁓ bad shoulder, bad arm, run tires and stuff. Kyle Jones: ⁓ yeah, yeah. Yeah, ⁓ Ryan had that surgery on his arm and ⁓ and he I said I was like, Man, you wanna run this speed week? 'Cause he's gonna be in a sling. He was like, Yeah, we just gotta find some help. I was like, Yeah, everybody's like taken for the speed week, right? Like, I mean, who's available? Everybody's trying to race or is helping already somebody. So luckily Jason was nice enough to come help us and we had it planned out until all the rain hit, but but yeah, it was it's ⁓ Ryan's a trooper, man, for sure. Slim Pushins: That's what Jim said. Jim said he was trying to do everything he could. Jim Jim had to push him out of the way. Kyle Jones: Yeah, I know, you y he will yeah, he was gonna hurt himself even more like trying to do too much with that sling in his arm. Slim Pushins: Jason said what hour for three damn hot dogs. He's never met a stranger though. Kyle Jones: Did you get back yeah, he he was yeah. I was gonna say he probably should have got back there and crypto himself. Corby Scherb: Say man. I Jason Tyres around the sport for a long time. Like I said, ⁓ we went to that big chill and we we we bumped into you and like you were related to Danny Eslick, someone who's the same age as me, race motorcycles, you know, it's like it's such a small world same. I mean, Jason, I I'm pretty sure you could say Jason Tyre's name just about in every state and they've heard or done something with him. Kyle Jones: ⁓ a long time. It Jason has this amazing story about Danny ⁓ Danny Eslick who he I can't remember how it went, he'd have to tell you. It had something to do with a one ton van and it was frozen over like it was snowing real bit real bad. And so wherever you get Jason on, you're gonna ask him about Danny Eslick with the one ton van when it was snowing. I think it was in Tulsa, but I can't remember. It was it was wild though. But every every story with Danny is wild. Corby Scherb: I can only imagine men. It's crazy, yeah, like I said, ⁓ we were the same age and we I bumped into you that night at the Big Chill and you were like ⁓ Danny Eslick and I looked over and I like, ⁓ that's Bill Eslick. I'm like shit, yeah, of course I know these guys. But yeah, Ja Jace Slim Pushins: DJ said DJ said that ⁓ Dylan had a flat car tower on his race car too that night. So he that's six total flat tires. And then Ch Jason said I got my first box van and drove to Sacramento. By the time I got home I had six six new I had six new tires and none of them matched. Corby Scherb: I'd I'd might even call it a year at that point. Dude, man, him and him and Prez were something different, man. ⁓ I I remember at Springfield I pulled off. I we I I was walking through the pits. I was after looking at qualifying times and I looked over at Jason and he's pointing down at the bike and he's he rides by me. And it is just pouring oil out, right? And they pull it in there and Prez is like, ⁓ just polish it up, man. Start polishing the wheels, get all that oil back off there. And I'm like, the what? Prez is the most famous statement, just polish it up. Slim Pushins: That's the most Jason tire thing ever. Kyle Jones: That's Make it look pretty. That's funny. Corby Scherb: Same Jason, ⁓ in in all the my whole career, I've known Jason my entire life, since I was in diapers. He only painted one helmet for me. And he was painting it for a Springfield race, and I hope he's still listening to this. And I had I told him like, dude, like I'm leaving, I think we were leaving like Thursday night, and ⁓ I told him when I was gonna leave and he like, Don't worry about it, man, I got you and so we went ahead and left. I didn't have my helmet. And I I mean it it is what it is, you know, I can't force him to do it. And he calls me and he was like, Hey man, Jeremy Hamilton has your helmet. They're bringing it. They're supposed to be up there Saturday and I'm like, stop. And he like, Yeah, man, I met him like an hour up the road. I drove up there, handed him your helmet. I actually Jason doesn't know this, but I wore that helmet that one race and it still sits on my shelf to this day. It's the only helmet that Jason ever paint yeah, only helmet Jason ever painted for me, and honestly, it's probably more important that Jason painted it for me than how cool it is. It's the coolest helmet I have. I and let's be honest, man, I I would have tore it up if I wore it any more so. Kyle Jones: ⁓ wow. Just the one race? Right. I'm sure like on on the flat track bill, d the helmets not just get tore up all the time, like with with how the the tracks were rocked up and chipped up. Slim Pushins: ⁓ yeah. Corby Scherb: ⁓ dude. ⁓ man, you know, and the same th they got beat up from that or if you ever hit your head, you know, they would explode the the earpieces on them and ⁓ the we have, you know, foam inserts in ⁓ and basically you had like one good hit and the helmet was trash. A lot of the paramedics back then would just cut go ahead and cut the strap on it so you could never wear it again. Right? But Kyle Jones: Right. Well I can imagine. Like you're going a hundred and twenty mile an hour or whatever it is on a mile. If I if you get it hurt like fall off that thing, yeah, the last thing I'm worried about is that that helmet's okay. You know what I mean? I that's that's wild to me. Like that that type of racing right there that like people think ⁓ a spread car racing is crazy. No dude. Yeah, what y'all do is absolutely insane. Corby Scherb: For sure, man. It was it was wild. I remember we ⁓ Merle was actually involved in Jason Tyres career ending crash. ⁓ Merle took out this dude from Australia and Jason basically got clothes lined by this motorcycle and it knocked Jason out. And I remember I'll never forget. the same like Kyle, you know, I have three brothers and like the odds of knowing every one of us by our face and first name is pretty impressive. And we all walked up to talk to Jason and President told him he's like, Hey man, if you can name all four Sherbs, you ain't gotta go to the hospital tonight. He stood up, he named us all off and ⁓ Prez is like, Alright, we can go home now. But yeah, ⁓ the the the amount of helmets that all of us went through is is pretty impressive. They basic one one crash, throw it away, call a ride, tell him to send you another one. Kyle Jones: That's what it ⁓ I can imagine. Slim Pushins: Tire said when you rode when you rode like us, they didn't last long. They don't bounce off the ground good, especially with my with my head in it. Corby Scherb: Th I think it was at like Dayton, Ohio or something, Jason broke like both arms or something. He had to have someone like unzip him all the way back home. You know back back then none of us we didn't fly anywhere. We drove ourselves to the racetrack, so Jason probably drove home with his elbows. Kyle Jones: ⁓ wait. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Yeah. That was just the Kyle Jones: Wow. That is incredible. Slim Pushins: Ryder said Ryder said he wants you to wear that helmet the whole next episode. Corby Scherb: ⁓ I can do it. I have it, it's on the shelf, man. It's still it's polished up. I I never wore it. I I think that I actually the last time I did wear it was ⁓ when the the K one experience that we went to. I'm glad that Kyle wasn't there 'cause he'd have beat me but I I pulled it out for that night. Slim Pushins: Guy said he's he stole your micro one time when you were in Tulsa. Kyle Jones: ⁓ yeah, he did. He he took my my old little red micro that I ran all the time, that little red sawyer, and ⁓ re ⁓ redid all the bodywork on it and ⁓ d gave it a big a big makeover. Like he did a really good job on that. That was that was really nice to him and I think Jeff Moore wrapped it and ⁓ yeah, it came out really nice and then I it was about three races or four races later and I had one of the worst crashes I ever had in a my i in a race car at ⁓ Wichita Falls. Corby Scherb: ⁓ my god. ⁓ my god. That was insane. Kyle Jones: Yeah, it just it just kept flipping. Kept flipping. Kept flipping. Slim Pushins: There's a lot of people that have Witch Tal Fall stories very similar. Kyle Jones: Man, that that place was fun. I like that place a lot. Corby Scherb: Yeah, it was just ⁓ it was one of those deals. I remember watching that feature, ⁓ just just coming off turn four and I mean I I couldn't believe how long that crash lasted. Kyle Jones: I remember like going and and wrecking and I I was I just kept wrecking kept running and I I've got my eyes closed and I remember I opened my eyes and I was straight up like like I was looking at the wall, like sitting, you know, I thought so I was like, ⁓ I'm done. And then and I kinda relaxed and just kept going. Like I would just happen to open my eyes right at the one of the the tumbles and just landed me straight, like thinking, ⁓ I'm okay, like I'm done flipping. No. And ⁓ I I was running three classes that night, I was running the the midget and ⁓ three ⁓ five and I I think I was starting that that was the first race the first day. And the ⁓ I was starting pretty good in the spring car and I was starting fourth I think or third in the midget. And I got out of the car, the micro and everything was fine until my feet hit the ground. And then it was like everything was black. Like I could not see a thing. Like I could feel myself blinking, but I it was just pitch black. And I I was calm as could be. I liked I'd get rid of the ambulance. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Kyle Jones: And I was like, My mom's right here, but don't tell her. I can't see anything. Because I could I knew she was there 'cause I hear her. And I I knew I got to the ambulance, but I just could not see nothing. I told her they like, Yeah, we're gonna take you and I was like, Well y'all gotta figure it out. I start fourth or third in this next race, so we gotta we gotta get this figured out pretty quick. But the next day it was raccoon eyes, like it was it was bad. I was th that was the worst one I've had. Slim Pushins: I guess you beautiful. No right. Corby Scherb: They were swelled up. It was pretty bad. Kyle Jones: Which is funny to say, like it that's not funny, but for a microbe all the I don't all the racing I've done and everything and I the worst I got hurt is in a micro. Slim Pushins: Those things are gnarly too. Dylan, ⁓ Dylan told us to ask you if Kevin's ever tried to kill you in a trailer going down the road. Kyle Jones: Kevin's trying to kill me multiple times. And not nothing Slim Pushins: This is listen, we usually apologize to everybody to start the show 'cause we have no idea what these people are capable of bringing up or asking. So, you know, here we are. Corby Scherb: I have a funny story, I don't know if Kyle remembers it, but go ahead and tell that story. Kyle Jones: Well, if if Dylan Rainey's in the comment section and Cloy Bullard, then it's g it could get pretty rowdy. Who knows what they're gonna say. They're I promise here in a second they're gonna start talking about spam. ⁓ you know, like the i it the stuff you eat, 'cause Kevin got me on spam that's a whole nother story. But ⁓ yeah, no, I was taking a shower while we're rolling down the road and I'm in the in the trailer in the shower and Kevin's in the semi with ⁓ Bobby Huddlestead or somebody. Slim Pushins: Jason Jason Tyre. Kyle Jones: And I'm in the shower, all of a sudden I get thrown through the to the wall in the shower. And I'm like, that's some bitch. He Dylan told him I'm in the shower and he's slamming on the brakes or something up there. Anyway, we get to where we're going, he's like, I almost smoked a deer. Like it was a deer that ran out in front of him. And I thought he was just I thought he was lying through his teeth, just messing with me. And he was like, And Bobby said, No, he really did almost just destroy a deer. Just happened to be that. Slim Pushins: Ha ha. What do you Corby? Corby Scherb: I think man I th I swear it was you two. I swear it was you and Kevin. ⁓ it was a long time ago, it was in the micro days, Logan was racing, I wasn't racing at the time, and ⁓ we read DFW Speedway, what was it what was it called? Mountain Creek. Right? And ⁓ I'm pretty sure that you won that night, right? Kyle Jones: Yeah. Yeah. Well Yeah, that's a fun story. We like to laugh about it now. Corby Scherb: And like I said, this is I know, this is like before like my car days. I'm like, dude, like these guys are nuts. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Kyle Jones: W we ⁓ yeah, we like to laugh about it now. It's funny 'cause I've driven for Kevin and he's giving me opportunities to go race with him now and it's ⁓ at the time, no, he definitely wanted to kill me. ⁓ I was I was a punk kid. ⁓ well the thing was so in my head on this whole deal, like so Kevin was checking out. He he got the lead and and I never was ahead of him, but I got to second at some point. And Kevin we kept having cautions. Corby Scherb: Right. You've roughed him you've roughed him up for sure. Kyle Jones: Well, every time under the caution, I just get up like it's and just tap his bumper. And then like under caution, I just tap him, you know, let him know. And then dur during the race, like I'd go off like we'd have to hit the bottom 'cause it was pretty one lane. We'd go off into one and there was a couple of times where I'd just cook it in a little bit harder and just tap him. Like it going off into one right in the middle of one and two. I was not faster. He walked away from me every restart. Every single one of ⁓ But Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Mm. Kyle Jones: If I could get to him, I just I wasn't gonna turn him around, just tap just just jack with him. And I was just messing with him. You know, and we had a caution one time and he got beside me and smoked my right side. And I was like, ⁓ I'm really pissing him off. And ⁓ we had like it was like five to go or whatever. So of course meet me and a a punk hit, I go off in the next corner and I did it again. I tapped him after that green flag. Race is over. I finish second, he wins it. And I'm coming around him Slim Pushins: Mm-hmm. Kyle Jones: Going to get off the racetrack off the back straightaway, come off a two. I go to get off the back straightaway. I didn't make it off the back straightaway. He smoked me. He came in there and T-bone me. And I swear he was shifting gears as he was as he was pushing me sideways down the back straightaway. I he was so mad. And come to find out later on, we go to get paid. Well, guess who won that night? Because Kevin got disqualified. Slim Pushins: Okay, no more. Kyle Jones: for for doing that. ⁓ yes, they I just qualified for doing that. So yeah, we like to laugh about it now, but ⁓ but yeah. Probably not one of my finer moments. Corby Scherb: ⁓ man. Slim Pushins: Did he really? Corby Scherb: That no, that was the that was the definition of you're the punk kid and ⁓ you're you were messing with the Kevin Raimi at the time, you know. Kevin was Kevin was known everywhere and I I I'll never forget that race. I'm like, man, like these car guys are nuts. There's no way. Mm-hmm. Kyle Jones: I was. Well, I I had known Kevin for years, like I grew up around watching him and everything off his obviously. So ⁓ that was my thought process. I was like, I'm just messing with him. Well he was just he was getting pissed off about it for sure. So ⁓ he had enough. Which I mean, now that I'm thirty two years old, like yeah, I'd have enough of that s crap too, right? Like, okay, that's enough. Corby Scherb: He had enough. Yeah. I always I'll never forget that story of of you two together. Slim Pushins: We're getting a lot of spam comments. Kyle Jones: Yeah, we're spam. So Kevin, there's obviously two things Kevin's good at, and that's well, racing cars, working a track, and cooking. The dude can cook, that's for sure. So we're racing together somewhere, and he's like, I'm making spam and eggs for breakfast. I'm like, spam. I don't want that. He's like, No, it's it's good. And I'm like, comes out of a can. I don't need I don't want that. You gotta try it. You gotta try it. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Kyle Jones: Sure enough I tried it and I was like, This ain't bad. It's pretty good. No, it ain't bad. Well, like it's cooked, right? Like he's cooking it. It's not just straight out of the can eat it. But ⁓ but no, he cooked it and then now, like a chili bowl, I walked over there and I'm like, Hey man, you got any more spam and egg? Yeah, it's over there in the tent. Go get some. Slim Pushins: It's not bad. Yeah. Corby Scherb: That's cool man. And it it's ⁓ it's such a small world and ⁓ there there's so many ⁓ local racers from around here the same. I I know we joked about it today about you know, ⁓ if ⁓ if you never had an argument with the twenty you probably wasn't going fast enough. You know, there you know, there's Kyle Jones: ⁓ yeah. Corby Scherb: There's just ⁓ there there was a lot of fast guys, ⁓ whenever you were young. ⁓ like I said, like you were the young punk kid messing with Kevin. ⁓ the same I know like I've watched you and Marcus and John and Jeb have some just absolute heated battles. ⁓ Kyle Jones: Yeah, yeah. I mean it it was fun racing back then. I mean just I mean it is now, but like we were everybody was so good. And they still are, but it was like week after week after week we were racing two nights a week, Mountain Creek and K and KSP or or wherever, you know, and it was it was always us five. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. The same it was micros and and three ⁓ fives, you know, ⁓ th there was tons of race and then you like you you went to Wichita Falls, you ran all three classes. It was cool back then, you know. I I felt like we had a lot more stuff like that that that came around, same as Kevin and doing the the KSP stuff whenever he did. ⁓ I I think that there used to be a lot more just sprint car or open wheel racing in general around here. Kyle Jones: Yes. Yeah, I mean I think now we're getting ⁓ if now that we've got like a smaller sample size of it, I it's it's compressed, you're getting more car counts at one venue than spread out through three different racetracks that are racing on the same night, right? So I don't know where you pick your poison on that. Would you rather have thirty cars at one track or t you know, fourteen or fifteen that each you know, three tracks running every every night? You know? So I I I I like that We've got the car counts that we'd still do that. That's really cool for for Texas three ⁓ five racing. I think like everyone I've been to, I they've been bigger races but they've been over thirty cars. You know, and that's that's amazing. You know, to to get that many out. I mean, which is how the economy is right now, with fuel price and everything and they're still coming out and racing is is awesome. Corby Scherb: Mm. ⁓ yeah. 'Cause I think yeah even you'll remember it, you know, like there was there was such a separation from like K S P guys to Devils Bowl guys and it was like super rare that that we all, you know, Fifield, Martin Edwards, ⁓ saying like Marcus went over and ran a bunch of Devils Bowl stuff. Like it was it was a big deal in those nights to ⁓ make sure you beat if we were running K S P everyone from Devil's Bowl and then vice versa. Kyle Jones: ⁓ yeah. Yeah, Raven Colt, ⁓ Fifeld. Yeah, and and Raimi had pictures he was a Dallas guy. But yeah, there was a there was a Mason Dixon line, you know, between between Devils Bowl and and KSP guys for sure. 'Cause it was like he'd run Devils Bowl RPM or K S P and Mountain Creek and there was no in between. I mean, for the most part, right? You'd get some guys here and there every now and then. But yeah, I I didn't get to go run Devils Bowl a as much as I wish I did. I I wish I got to go win there. I w I I I I didn't try too many times but Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah, Raven. Yep. I agree. Kyle Jones: ⁓ the times I did it was it was fun. But I was just it was too close too convenient to go to Kinnadale. You know, I'd live five minutes up the road. So but ⁓ but yeah, no it's ⁓ Corby Scherb: Right. Yeah, it was like the one off races like Kilgore or something like that where like everyone came together, you know. Kilgore was a cool track. Or like some random race at Boyd or something like that. Or like I say, Wichita Falls, same. I I think that there was there was a lot of different times that we got to race with everyone. Kyle Jones: Yeah. was. Right, right. No, I agree. It was ⁓ it was really cool. Slim Pushins: Kyle, are you do you have any superstitions? Are you a superstitious race car driver? Kyle Jones: I'm not so guys like some guys I know do they gotta do the same thing every time they get in the race car, whether it's left glove first, right glove first, whatever. I just kinda get in the thing as fast as I can 'cause I'm usually running late. If I'm putting tear offs on or something then like, Hey we gotta get the car. So and plus I hate being sh I I can't stand strapping to the car and just sitting there forever, you know, 'cause it it never fails. If I if I'm the first one in the car or try to get in there early, there's cautions or reds on the racetrack and I'm just sitting there for twenty minutes, thirty minutes something. ⁓ try not to do that. I try to I try to make staging to where I'm not sitting there all the time, right? Like if I if I get to at least I don't want to be late because that can cost you now with the national tours, like they'll they'll dock you, you know, if you're not there at a certain time. But just ⁓ I guess it just depends. But no, no superstition. ⁓ I'm a big chicken guy on race day. I could eat chicken anytime, race day that don't bother me. John Ricketts is like quivering in his boots right now. Slim Pushins: So you're a you're a late stager? Though a lot of people are. I got a Kyle Jones: I think it was John, I don't remember. I say that. I don't remember if it was him or not to say that he's taking the race day. Somebody did. Corby Scherb: ⁓ no, I don't. I definitely don't eat chicken on race days. I don't know. I'm I'm a pretty weird person. ⁓ I think me and all my brothers are about a lot of that stuff. Just certain certain things, same like getting dressed the same way, ⁓ getting in the car the same way. ⁓ I don't know. It it worked for me. It ⁓ I w I was never as fast as Kyle, so I had to do different things to try to help myself. Slim Pushins: Yeah, to say the least. Kyle Jones: Yeah. I mean maybe that's my problem. Maybe I do get some bad luck because I'm not superstitious, right? Maybe I should be. Slim Pushins: See? Push in the cushion podcast is like a therapy session. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. That's all we need now. Kyle Jones: Yeah. but do something one time and it's like it's gonna work out. I'm like, I've gotta do it every time. Slim Pushins: We were Corby Scherb: Well, you done one, you know, it's a midget shows you've won Belleville and you say that that you haven't ⁓ g been consumed by a superstition. I I think you're clear on all that stuff. Kyle Jones: Some of that stuff is tough though. Like I'm like, how does this happen? Like there's just random stuff that happens to me through through the race day or through a weekend. And I'm like, how d how does nobody else get some luck that I get out out of some of this stuff? And then but then there are times like like, yeah, maybe. And but there are times like I've obviously had been successful at other places, so it's like it's take and give, give and take. Slim Pushins: That's why. Patrick Stassen said no peanuts are green on race day. ⁓ that's I think that's fairly common. Kyle Jones: Dude, the whole car the Ryan Hoff race car is green. I can't do anything about that. Like like the cars I it the the one I wore on Belville is green. That's why I like I I tell people I'm like, I don't know what to do about it. Like it's on the green deal, right? Or number thirteen, I guess. Is that a big one too? Corby Scherb: Yeah, number thirteen's a big one. ⁓ the peanuts, I I forever thought that that was just a motorcycle thing. It was peanut shells, it wasn't the peanuts. But apparently it it's pretty big in car racing too. Kyle Jones: Yeah. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Sounds like somebody that really enjoyed peanuts kind of narrowed that down, like, all right, it's just the shells. Corby Scherb: Logan's Logan's big thing used to be goldfish. Like he had to have goldfish on race day. Slim Pushins: Yeah, there's a whole backstory with that. Corby Scherb: ⁓ there that that I d I don't get it. Lo Logan had some super odd one the same like back in the Cowtown days whenever y'all running micros there, he had to eat at the Popeyes on the Cowtown exit or on the Kennedale Cowtown exit. Every time. Pull up there with a trailer, parked it right there on business and Logan would run up there and grab his Popeyes. Slim Pushins: Like a whole meal? Kyle Jones: So chicken on rice day. But it but no peanuts. Corby Scherb: Yeah. I swear. I swear. No no peanuts. No peanuts or peanut chills. No green. He would eat chicken. One hundred percent. Lucas had a long one for forever. It was Wendy's. He had to have Wendy's on race day. Kyle Jones: But is he eating chicken? Slim Pushins: What was yours, Corby? Had to eat Subway. No matter what the rest of us wanted, we had to eat Subway. Corby Scherb: Yep. Mine, Subway. Subway worked for me. Subway. That worked for me. Slim Pushins: Corb's got a lot of Corb's got a lot of superstitions. Jeb says if he has a bad night, he throws his underwear away. Kyle Jones: ⁓ serious, bro. Yeah, it does have some some weird superstitions. Corby Scherb: Well Kyle's known Jeb for a long time. J Jeb's an odd cat. Come on. Kyle Jones: Yeah, that is true. Like Jim won't park in the same spot. Like if something if something doesn't go right, Jim will literally go somewhere else. And it'll be like, No, I I'm not I'm saving you a spot, Jim. Nope. Nope. Won't park there. Okay. Slim Pushins: We get so many Yeah. I mean it's hard to argue with a guy, you know, he's got a lot of success. Kyle Jones: I'm I'm not mad at ⁓ Like whatever word for, right? Like I it's what it is. Corby Scherb: Maybe that's maybe that's why all of us have a I wonder if Marcus has any weird superstitions. Slim Pushins: Corby has to put s gloves on. Corby Scherb: I don't know, maybe that's Kyle made it so far. Kyle Jones: I got lucky. I got really lucky. Slim Pushins: That he just sends it. Corby Scherb: No man, you're a hard worker, like I said. ⁓ you you took some some cars that ⁓ was not ready or ⁓ had the capabilities of and I I I will agree with ⁓ a lot of people that Kyle, you've always worked on your own stuff. You've always ⁓ typically if you walk by your trailer you're not ⁓ watching other people put wheels and tires on your car. And ⁓ it it it takes that man, ⁓ to try to get where you're at because ⁓ it is no one's gonna give it to you. No one's just gonna walk up and be like, Here dude, here's a million dollars, go do whatever you want. ⁓ Kyle Jones: Yeah, you gotta you gotta go out there and and earn it and and just show that how bad you want it, right? Like people people are watching. And that's the other thing. Like, good or bad, people are watching. Like and that like I said with the ⁓ Scott Petrie, ⁓ I don't I don't get half I wouldn't ran good at Chili Bowl with Scott Petrie because of me going to midget week and getting my teeth kicked in. And when I ran Scott Petrie's car, s ⁓ Steve Carboni with a seven U saw how good I ran at ⁓ Chili Bowl and I started running the seven U. just regionally and and nationally just one weekend and that turned into you know a a four or five year stint with seven you team and then that led to something else like people are always watching and you you don't yeah you you don't want to ever go out there and show your ass. Like you always want to work hard and if and the biggest thing for me is kids, grown adults, I don't care who you are, you bust your ass in that race car and you get out of that car and you walk away from it and leave that thing on the racetrack. Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Kyle Jones: That absolutely wears me out. Because nothing says disrespect more than I could care less about this race car. I'm gonna go back and get me a teaseburger or whatever. Sit with that car. It's one thing if ⁓ you know, you gotta go to the ambulance or whatever, or if someone's taking you back to your trailer, that's one thing. You walk away from that race car on your own, that just wears me out. Corby Scherb: Yeah, my my big thing is just just throwing a fit, like I say, like people are always watching you, man, and you don't know. Like, ⁓ don't don't get me wrong, like I've been emotional at the racetrack, but like go go in front of your trailer, like go away from someone, you know. Let's let's be honest, everyone's gonna be emotional, I mean, ⁓ but do your best to hide it the best that you can because like you say, man, you know you have no clue. You don't even it's not just the money guys that are watching you, it's the little kids that are watching you that you're you're proving to them it's okay to throw a fit and Kyle Jones: Yeah. Yeah, right. Corby Scherb: That that's that's never acceptable in my book. Kyle Jones: Absolutely. I mean yeah, th and ⁓ there's been times that I've acted out and you know shouldn't do some things, but I try to keep that you know as as as under wraps as I can, right? And and and everybody should, I feel like, but it's ⁓ it's tough for sure. It's an emotional sport. Corby Scherb: For sure, man. 'Cause you're the best, right? The same as I was that night that I pushed out that feature, you know? And then d dumb things happen all the time and there's there's things way out of your control, there's no reason to throw a fit about it. Kyle Jones: ⁓ Right, absolutely. Slim Pushins: If it was Corby, we'd be have to be the best car on the track and he'd just hammer tractor tires. I can't tell you I can't tell you how many how many dreams were dashed by tractor tires. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Kyle Jones: Sometimes they jump out at you. Corby Scherb: See? Caligrees. Kyle Jones: I swear. Corby Scherb: No, man, I I have a funny story about Kyle, you know, ⁓ remember like right right as soon as I started going good in three ⁓ fives, ⁓ we were at Kennedy one night and I think that you were running second or third, something like that, and I was right behind you and you were you were rolling the top and I was like, dude, like I'm doing it man, like I'm I'm rolling with these guys. And ⁓ that was the first night that I watched you like really really turn right going into turn one and I'm like, Fuck, dude. Shit, this is gonna suck. And actually that night you clipped the wall Slim Pushins: Ha ha. I'm doing it. Kyle Jones: Yeah. Corby Scherb: going out the front straighter and I'm like, dude, like these guys are nuts, like there's no way. Like this cannot be consistent. And ⁓ but it was like go back, like watch videos and like you could see like how much the track especially going into one, like how much it opens up and it it's not it's not as scary as what you think. The first couple of laps that I followed you, I'm like, ⁓ my God, dude, like there's no way. There's no way I can do this every lap. Kyle Jones: Yeah, I do. Yeah. Right, right. No, absolutely. KSPs, especially when it gets up on the wall like that, it's it's kind of intimidating. Until you get up there and start doing it and your car's working well, like if you feel comfortable, then it's that's everything, right? Like as long as you're you're feeling comfortable, you can get up there and really rip. But ⁓ but yeah, that turning right, entering one is like everything in your head says, No, I should not do this. But it's fast, right? Corby Scherb: Yeah. Yep. The same way we watched Sheldon Hot Shell do it this year and clip the wall, you know, ⁓ I d I don't care who you are. Ki Kinnadale is very unique when it comes to just just track the lines that you can run there. Kyle Jones: It is that and I'm really I was really excited when I saw that the outlaws were f gonna go there for the first time. I think it was last year, right? So I was really excited for that to see how those guys got around there. I'd love to see Kennedale and RPM and some of these other tracks get national tour races. Like I I would l I've been trying to get Sprigge and USAC guys to come down here, but it's gotta make sense for them, right? Like they're we're so far away. But like going to Embarillo, like there's something we can hit down through here. And like I would love to get the non wing sprint cars, you know, the national guys around. Kennedale, RPM. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. ⁓ yeah. Kyle Jones: whatever and and you know, go see how they'd put on a show. I think it'd be amazing. Corby Scherb: I agree. Slim Pushins: So at Speed Day, we sent the pushing the cushion girls out, asked some some questions. So we might as well ask you too, if you were gonna go to jail with any driver, who would you go to jail with? Kyle Jones: You're with Slim Pushins: Or who would who are you who would you be with that causes you both of you to go to jail? Kyle Jones: Man. Like anybody around here is what you're asking. Slim Pushins: ⁓ anybody, anywhere. Big national guy, we gotta open up the whole nation to you. Kyle Jones: Yeah, I feel like I don't know man, there's a lot of goopalls out there that we just get into trouble with. I'm just trying to think in place a name, right? Like I mean guys around here, I know Jeb would bail me out. I know Jeb would be my first phone call. Hey bud, come get me. He might be there with me. So it might be we might be calling Jimmy Session to get us out. That's true. Yeah. Yeah, Jimmy come get us. He might leave Jeb in there. Learn a lesson. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Slim Pushins: Well that'd be the next question. Yeah. Corby Scherb: Dib's had a couple of crazy moments too. Slim Pushins: Jimmy come get you. what about la what about landing on the moon? Do you think we landed on the moon? Kyle Jones: ⁓ we did definitely didn't land on the moon, dudes. All right, no way we landed on the moon. Slim Pushins: You You don't all Savannah's on. She's listening. We have to behave ourselves. you don't think we landed on the moon either? Kyle Jones: ⁓ yeah. No, no, I don't I don't feel like you know, we've said we've lost the technology to get back there and it's like, how did that how did that happen? You know, so no, I I I don't think we'd like that there's a ton of conspiracy theories. You know, ⁓ what do you what do you believe they're lying to you about? And if they're gonna lie to you about something like that, then why wouldn't they lie to you about other stuff? Right? Slim Pushins: ⁓ that's that's my thought. I think Corby froze. I don't know where he went. He's got that Decatur ⁓ internet out there. Yeah, yeah. ⁓ I can't tell you how many comments and conversations I've had at the track, people coming up that want us to have Jeb back on just for conspiracy theory talk. Kyle Jones: Yeah. They got dial up. That's awesome. That's awesome. I I Slim Pushins: Jeb's a fun guy to he's a fun guy to get into those conversations because he doesn't just give you an opinion. He goes down rabbit holes and will he'll give you what he believes is facts. Kyle Jones: Right, right. No, I d I haven't really got into that with Jeff, but ⁓ that's that's awesome. I'm glad he I need to get I need to have those conversations. I need to be here for that. I I didn't I watched his episode and I I got sidetracked on something. I need to go back and watch it some more. I can see the whole episode ⁓ when they when he was on here, but ⁓ Slim Pushins: I want I think i we had to break it into two. Jim was so mad at us. It's you know, we tried to keep it originally originally we try to keep these things at an hour, but you know, especially with the live garage beers, we just kinda sit around and BS and, you know, one thing leads to another. But Jeb's episode we had to break into like a part one and a part two. Corby Scherb: I think we can all agree, like J Jeb's way too smart to drive sprint cars. Especially whenever you start talking to him about this stuff. Kyle Jones: ⁓ wow. Yeah, no, like what he does for a living, he he needs to to be all there for that. You know, like I go go in and get hurt in a sprint car, I ain't do anything good for what he's got going on, you know, for ⁓ man, like Slim Pushins: No. Corby you skits out you skits out there. Kyle does not believe that we landed on the moon. Corby Scherb: I know. I good, good, I'm glad. There's no way. Kyle Jones: Yeah, as much as Slim Pushins: What were Corby what were the other conspiracy theories that ⁓ we brought up with with Jeb? Easter Island Corby Scherb: ⁓ the the flat the flat earth stuff, ⁓ that's that's kinda wild to talk to Jeb about that stuff. ⁓ Kyle Jones: ⁓ dude, my my brother's big, big into flat earth. Like big, big. And Yes, but like he he's got it like 'cause the firmament the waters the firmament above the water like the water's above the firmament, like he talks about the dome. It's all but like he'll get to the point like like, Yeah, man, this this this actually's pretty wild to think about. Whether ⁓ it's it's true or not, it is insane. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: Like the seven realms and stuff. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It it's crazy. Jet yeah, Jeb's got a lot of well, he's got a lot of facts about it too, and that's like Kyle's saying, like it it's crazy if you try to if you try to argue with them, it's the same. I mean the the most simple thing is just like the jet stream and say that, you know, you're flying from the west to the east and Slim Pushins: Jeb and I got deep into that stuff on the way to Nebraska last year. ⁓ he's gone again. Kyle Jones: You get your internet cut off, you start arguing with Jim. Well, we gotta pay that bill, bud. Corby Scherb: My internet's junk tonight. Slim Pushins: We're gonna he's gonna have to start coming down to my place through the internet. I we it was storming here earlier, that's where the lights were gonna go out. Do you have the same face? Does Corby have the same face that you left? Kyle Jones: Yeah, he does his screen screenshot there. Clip there. Slim Pushins: He's gonna be so bad at us. So we put that video together. Ryder's girlfriend put it for she edited it all and put it ⁓ we put it on the push in the cushion Facebook page and ⁓ we have a TikTok page too that nobody knows about because we never talk about it. ⁓ But they edit it together and we anybody that said that they thought that we landed on the moon, we edited in. So when we had Raimi on, his internet kept going out. And he would just disappear. And at one point, he just left. Like he didn't even freeze. He was just gone in the middle of conversation. And Corby just instinctively goes, Shit. So everybody in that clip, you have to go back and watch it. Everybody in that clip that ⁓ that that thought that we landed on the moon, she edited in shit. So Kyle Jones: ⁓ yeah. I saw that. I saw that. I was I noticed that. Yeah. Y'all put that in there. That's good stuff. ⁓ Slim Pushins: That's where that's from. It goes back and forth. That that that little three second clip goes back and forth all the time, ⁓ between group texts. It's stupid how often it it goes around. Kyle Jones: It's perfect for the soundboard. Just Slim Pushins: I I think so. That one and then Jim Jim edited the one. You have to be careful what you say on here because Jim's a lot smarter than we are. And one of the last couple episodes I said something about Corbin and I only do the podcast for the chicks. And that's become a drop too that he likes to ⁓ toss around. So ⁓ everybody's talking about Corby's face. Kyle Jones: That's awesome. I can't see the comments, so I don't know what to say. Corby Scherb: Unbelievable. Man my my internet's shit tonight. Jesus. It's usually Jim that we gotta chase down like this. I guess he put his bad luck on me. Slim Pushins: ⁓ hey buddy. Kyle Jones: He's back. He's back. Slim Pushins: You you missed Kyle's one liner when you like, Yeah, you know, if you go against Jeb and then you just froze he's like you'll get your internet turned off. Kyle Jones: Exactly. They are. They hear you talk about flat Earth but it's got you down. Corby Scherb: They b the government's probably after me after talking shit about him already. Slim Pushins: Jim Jim Jim's so funny. Every time we start talking about this, he'll just proclaim My name's Jim Gardner and I do believe that we landed on the moon and I don't believe that the government lies to us about anything. Kyle Jones: That's like I suppose that's the Corby Scherb: You're after me already. Slim Pushins: They are after you. Corby was about to go down, just just spitting facts about the Corby Scherb: Y'all n y'all are never gonna hear from me again. This is it. This is the last one. Kyle Jones: Yeah, no, I hate that Jim couldn't be here for this. I was ⁓ looking forward to talking with him about it for sure. Slim Pushins: Ha ha. No you weren't. Nobody's ever he's the most unapproachable guy at the track. Kyle Jones: We had good conversations. We had good conversations at ⁓ at ⁓ Hunt County, ⁓ about midget racing and whatnot. And ⁓ Justin came over, we're the same heat race, Justin were parked right next to each other and he came over to the heat race ⁓ thing. He was running third and I was trying to get by him and ⁓ ended up getting by him with about two to go or whatever, and he comes over, he's like, All right, shoot my ass, what was I doing wrong? And I said, No, man, you're good I said, I wouldn't run right in the middle of the slick, but whatever. You know He I say Slim Pushins: I mean if that's if that's where the car felt good, just you're Corby Scherb: Mm. Kyle Jones: That's like Well that's good. I ripped around him like in the meat like 'cause he was actually he was doing like slider line and he was like ended up right in the slick, but he was he was in in the like a roadblock. Like I couldn't get around him. Like I couldn't get a run on my well finally I just I I just I was able to motor by him and ⁓ but yeah, I like, No, I probably wouldn't do that, but ⁓ everything else was alright. ⁓ he looked all right. And I saw like like I hate that for him at Ardmore, right? Like he had a heck of a run. You what he run third? Corby Scherb: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Slim Pushins: Yeah, he did. Kyle Jones: Yeah, so it's like that's that's tough, man. But I've been there like y it moving a nose wing isn't gonna change that. So go take that exact same setup somewhere else next week and go try again. Corby Scherb: For sure. Slim Pushins: No, I I think a a lot it that thirty or forty minute red flag changed a lot. In fact, when was the last time you ever heard of like an open red for any of these three ⁓ five races? They were like, if y'all wanna come throw some fuel in it, y'all come on. So ⁓ you know, a lot of tires got glazed over and and a lot of ⁓ a lot of the cars started reacting different. Corby Scherb: We're gonna touch on that too, you know, like ⁓ cot call sitting here, ⁓ the the open red I I think that it was a little bit ⁓ a little bit misguided. ⁓ they they started bumping cars back off, ⁓ more people were still standing on the racetrack and stuff and yeah, I I think you know, I'm not I'm not I hate to to ever knock a racetrack, but ⁓ I I thought that they they just they don't run sprint cars enough, you know, and they they didn't have understanding of it. The same ⁓ I was there helping Braxton Weager and ⁓ Kyle Jones: ⁓ yeah. Wow. Corby Scherb: It it just seemed like it happened so quick they started pushing cars back off. Unbelievable. I froze again. There we go. We're back. ⁓ my god, we're back. And ⁓ th they they started they started ⁓ pushing cars back off. I was standing outside of the mule, like standing next to Braxton and I and Braxton had his helmet off and everything and I like, ⁓ shit, like we gotta go right now. Say ⁓ Kevin Rutherford told me that ⁓ they told him he could get out and he was in his trailer getting fuel whenever Kyle Jones: Are you good? Slim Pushins: I thought we lost ya. I thought we lost ya. Corby Scherb: They said that you guys are good. Start starting cars. Yeah, we froze that time. For sure. Kyle Jones: ⁓ my gosh. That is incredible. No, I didn't know about that. I mean no, I'd hate to knock a track too, but I feel like construction constructive criticism is different than bashing, right? Like ⁓ there's there's certain ways we can go about this and do this, right? Like a I it it's tough without a series director when ⁓ when something like that happens or someone that's used to running sprint cars at their racetrack knows what to do. ⁓ but yeah, with there's people on the track, we can't we can't restart fired cars, that's pretty wild. But the fact that Kev is in his trailer is hysterical. Corby Scherb: Unbelievable. Jesus Christ. Slim Pushins: He's done froze again. Kyle Jones: He's reconnected. Slim Pushins: Alright, well, I think this would be perfect just to leave and let him log back in and we're not even here anymore. Kyle Jones: That would be good. How about that? Slim Pushins: All right, man. Listen, we r I really appreciate you taking some time out. You I know your schedule's busy. You flew back in this morning. ⁓ when do you leave back out? Kyle Jones: ⁓ Thursday night. I got Thursday night. We'll go run Makon Speedway Friday, Saturday, come back for a couple of days and go back to Midgetweek. So looking forward to it. Slim Pushins: Awesome. Well, good luck, ⁓ good luck with the midget week and and everything else, man. ⁓ we really appreciate you coming on and taking the time out. Big time national national driver now. Kyle Jones: No, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, well, for as long as somebody lets me drive their car. That's for sure. But no, I appreciate you be letting me be here, man. Like ⁓ I I really enjoy the show and and ⁓ love to get back on sometime for sure. Slim Pushins: All right. Absolutely. We're gonna we're we'll start d damn it. Damn it. Corby Scherb: I'm done. I'm not saying another negative thing whatsoever, no matter what. Like I'm just gonna be nice from here on out. Slim Pushins: We were trying to close the show out before you came back on, so you just logged back on, there wasn't anybody. Corby Scherb: Geez. That'd be even better. Slim Pushins: All right. Well I just thanked him for coming on, so there's nothing left for you, Corby. Corby Scherb: Yeah, thanks Kyle, man. I appreciate it. Like I said, ⁓ you you're you're a local dude that's ⁓ doing it, chasing the dream. ⁓ cheers to you, man. Kyle Jones: I appreciate it, man. It's ⁓ good talking to you guys. Like I said, with Stone Slim. I'd love to be back on any time. ⁓ I really enjoy the show, really enjoying what y'all are doing for the level three ⁓ five stuff around here. It's it's cool to make it a big deal. It needs to be a big deal, like for for people to get excited about it. So really happy with what y'all are doing. Corby Scherb: For sure. Slim Pushins: Well, we appreciate it. We have a good time doing it and that's that was the main goal and ⁓ you know, seeing people at the track that earlier Mike said, you know, it was really nice meeting y'all. I met him in the tech shed as they were DQ and Jim. ⁓ and I think Corby met him earlier in the night, so ⁓ that's why we do it. You know. Corby Scherb: Nah, man, ⁓ go go kick some ass at ⁓ Midget Week and then like you said, you're gonna run some three ⁓ five stuff. ⁓ go go keep hanging your ⁓ hat real high and we'll have you back on. Kyle Jones: Yeah, man, absolutely. Yeah, I've got some some stuff lined up. I'm really looking forward to doing and just see how the year goes for sure. Slim Pushins: All right ma'am. Thanks everybody for joining us. ⁓ we'll see you next week. Kyle Jones: Okay. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Later, buddy.