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NFL MVP Discussion, NCAAF Championships, College Basketball, Mailbag & More! · Best Betting Show Ever

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  Speaker 1: Want to make some money. Stay with us. This is
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  Speaker 1: the best betting show ever. I'm Lawrence Presban, Art, the Caesar,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Ran Area are joining us. And what are we
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about today, Well, we're going to tell
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  Speaker 1: you where some of the money is coming in an
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  Speaker 1: NFL and college football. We're gonna look at the NBA card,
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  Speaker 1: the college basketball card, the NHL card, and in our
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  Speaker 1: Fate or Not Made segment, we're going to discuss some
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  Speaker 1: teams in the NBA. But nothing is more important than
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  Speaker 1: our parlay of the day. This thing's been hitting at
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  Speaker 1: a very good rate. Art did screw up our NFL
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  Speaker 1: one taking the Giants. Art, what was the reasoning there?
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  Speaker 2: I thought the seven and a half was the juicy number.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna compete. The Giants are so bad.
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  Speaker 2: That was the low point of the season. I feel
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  Speaker 2: very bad that I had the Giants because I screwed us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had them, So don't worry, don't worry, don't
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  Speaker 3: feel too bad. That was great.
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  Speaker 1: So I saw a picture of Jackson Dart walking into
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  Speaker 1: the stadium with his turtleneck. He's clearly a turtleneck guy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't judge. He did not have his fake diamond
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  Speaker 1: necklace on. So he put the fake diamond necklace on
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  Speaker 1: for the game, only he didn't wear it in real life,
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  Speaker 1: all right, So part of his uniform was to put
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  Speaker 1: a fake diamond necklace around and then show it to
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  Speaker 1: the world, and we all know it's fake. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know how I know it's fake.
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  Speaker 3: Because he was wearing it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's on a rookie salary. The diamonds are
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  Speaker 1: this big, there's seven hundred of them. They're heart shaped.
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  Speaker 1: That necklace would be worth like thirty million dollars if
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  Speaker 1: it was real. So this guy put a fake diamond
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  Speaker 1: necklace on and made sure the world knew about it,
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  Speaker 1: and you took him.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but you gotta be careful with the rookie salary
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  Speaker 3: press because these guys are coming out of college now
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  Speaker 3: making you know, four million dollars a year, So these
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  Speaker 3: kids are coming in with a hell of a lot
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  Speaker 3: more money than I used to.
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  Speaker 1: No way that that is a diamond necklace, Joe, and
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  Speaker 1: ay there, I don't know. I don't think chance in hell.
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  Speaker 3: Probably a lucky charm, but he ought to burn it now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, someone said it was his sister's necklace, so she.
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  Speaker 1: Is a fake diamond.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's good. That's good too.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, next week Pearls. Okay, let's get into somewhere. Is
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  Speaker 1: the money going Steelers and Ravens big big game? I
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  Speaker 1: like the Ravens, Seahawks and Falcons not so important. I like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know the line in that game. Haven't
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  Speaker 1: looked to the Goes and the Raiders, I mean, fade
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders all day long.
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  Speaker 3: Art.
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  Speaker 1: Where's the money going in these three games?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Pittsburgh and Baltimore is obviously a huge game in
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  Speaker 2: that division.
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  Speaker 3: They're tied.
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  Speaker 2: We took sharp money on Pittsburgh at six and a half.
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  Speaker 2: People do not want to lay a number right now
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  Speaker 2: with Baltimore. Well, they moved half a point off of it,
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  Speaker 2: so Baltimore now six point home favorite. But we did
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  Speaker 2: see really good sharp money twice on under forty five
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  Speaker 2: and under forty four. We're now forty three on the
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  Speaker 2: game Seattle at Atlanta. Listen, we know we'll probably need
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  Speaker 2: Seattle and money line parlays and teasers and all that
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  Speaker 2: type of stuff. Seattle opened eight, but we saw Atlanta money,
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  Speaker 2: which is shocking to me. I don't know why Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: money would come in, but I guess they're looking at
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  Speaker 2: a home team getting well over a touchdown. It's now
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  Speaker 2: seven and if you want to lay Seattle now, now
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  Speaker 2: you're laying Seattle minus seven minus juice. Total of forty
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  Speaker 2: three really hasn't budged Denver at Vegas. See, the Raiders
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  Speaker 2: played Denver tough on that Thursday night in Denver. I
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  Speaker 2: think they lost by like three or four points. It
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  Speaker 2: was a really tight game. You know, we opened Denver
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  Speaker 2: eight on the game saw a little bit of Raider money,
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  Speaker 2: but it was really just like local public money. So
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  Speaker 2: we've kind of bounced back and forth from seven and
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  Speaker 2: a half and eight, and the market has kind of
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  Speaker 2: done that as well. Total of forty and a half.
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  Speaker 2: I could see the total going down even lower because
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  Speaker 2: I think that first game was like thirteen to seven
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  Speaker 2: or something like that. So I think the total will
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  Speaker 2: get back down in this game.
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  Speaker 3: So it had to have been I would imagine art
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  Speaker 3: for Thanksgiving. It must have been a pretty profitable day
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  Speaker 3: for the books because I think between Thursday and Friday
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  Speaker 3: you had not one, not two, not three, but four
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  Speaker 3: outright dog winners. The books must have been you might
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  Speaker 3: have been celebrating in the back room there at the
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  Speaker 3: West Gate.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Thursday and Friday we were celebrating until we got
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  Speaker 2: the Sunday in the NFL. Sunday was not and then
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  Speaker 2: last night was not good either. I'll say that, But
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  Speaker 2: you are right when you get Thursday and Friday. And
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  Speaker 2: you know the nice thing with Thursday and Friday, When
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  Speaker 2: you get these outright dogs to win, you screw up
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  Speaker 2: everyone's money line parlays and teasers. So they have to
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  Speaker 2: go back in. They have to reload. They can't just
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  Speaker 2: ride their leg into Saturday or Sunday. They now have
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  Speaker 2: to put a new teaser in or a new money
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  Speaker 2: line parlay in. And that's what happens when you have
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  Speaker 2: all these right, outright dogs win. But man, I'll tell you,
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  Speaker 2: once we got to Sunday, we could not get a
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  Speaker 2: game to land our way. Sunday in the NFL was brutal.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you before we get into
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  Speaker 1: college football about the MVP race in the NFL. I
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  Speaker 1: know we didn't discuss that we'd be talking about that,
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  Speaker 1: but right now I think Drake may is the favorite.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to hear where the Westgate is. What's the
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  Speaker 1: line on Stafford. I'm struggling to accept that Drake May
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  Speaker 1: will be handed the MVP.
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  Speaker 2: So let me say this, when we get to like
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  Speaker 2: Thursday or Friday show, I'll be able to update that
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more because once games go off, they'll
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  Speaker 2: be like readjusted this morning. Obviously, Drake May played last night,
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  Speaker 2: Stafford had all the turnovers on set or on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Those two have always been the clear top two for
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  Speaker 2: us these last and full of weeks. I'll say this,
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  Speaker 2: We'd rather Drake May win than Stafford. We get bombed
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  Speaker 2: on Stafford. Stafford would not be a good decision for us. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, him turning the ball over a bunch on
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  Speaker 2: Sunday and then losing the game, and you know, if
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  Speaker 2: New England can get that one seed and Drake May
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  Speaker 2: continues to play the way he does present, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's the MVP either, but I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to root for him to be the MVP because of
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  Speaker 2: the result that it would be for us over someone
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  Speaker 2: like a Matt Stafford.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Joe, what are your thoughts there? Because
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean we're talking about really early in
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  Speaker 1: his career and there's always been with the MVP across
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  Speaker 1: all leagues. It's a subject thing. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: he's just not ready, Like I just I can't see
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  Speaker 1: it well.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, you don't have to go much further
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  Speaker 3: than look at the schedule of teams that they beat.
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  Speaker 3: It's very hard, a good point to look and be like,
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  Speaker 3: WHOA what a Knight against a two win Giant team
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  Speaker 3: that gave them seventeen points in the first half alone
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  Speaker 3: from their level of stupidity and competence point and by
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  Speaker 3: the way, they had three points in the second half.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, it's very hard for me to put
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  Speaker 3: them on that level given where Stafford has had to
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  Speaker 3: come from and who he's had to play this year
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  Speaker 3: in the division he plays in versus what Drake may
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  Speaker 3: is having to deal with here this year. But there,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to Arts point, it is such a recency
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  Speaker 3: bias market where you know, soon a Stafford comes back
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  Speaker 3: and wins and throws four touchdown pits, he's back to
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  Speaker 3: be in the face and you know, and I get it, Art,
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  Speaker 3: because the odds on him preseason, nobody thought he was
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  Speaker 3: gonna last three games with the back injury. Remember, so
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  Speaker 3: anybody who took flyers on him. His number was huge preseason,
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  Speaker 3: and yet you know here he is and still very
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  Speaker 3: much the front runner I think anyway, with what four games,
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  Speaker 3: five games to go? Five?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Five, Yeah, Joe, Yeah, Joe.
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  Speaker 3: You make a great point.
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  Speaker 2: When he had that back injury, all the ram stuff
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  Speaker 2: kind of got lowered, you know, division and so and
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  Speaker 2: so if you took I always give people credit. If
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  Speaker 2: you make a bet like that on Savage, you deserve
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  Speaker 2: to win. I mean, God bless you. If you made
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  Speaker 2: that bet and still said, hey, let me put my
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  Speaker 2: hard earned money and let it sit there for six months,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when he had back issues. I will say this,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think he's gonna win, but I think
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen still has so case.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad, I bet. I'm glad you mentioned Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: art because I was gonna say if you took Matt
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  Speaker 1: Stafford out or may or mahomes Lamar. Josh Allen is
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  Speaker 1: the most valuable player to his team period. They have
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  Speaker 1: no wide receivers, they have no offensive line, they have
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  Speaker 1: a mediocre defense. Josh Allen is so far ahead of
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  Speaker 1: anybody else when it comes to MVP to their specific team.
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  Speaker 1: It's not even close.
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  Speaker 3: I Joe, I agree. I think it's uh, it's still
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  Speaker 3: a lot of football. And again, because of how volatile
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  Speaker 3: that market is, it's you know, whoever shows up last,
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  Speaker 3: whoever has the whoever puts the best string of wins together.
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  Speaker 3: From this point they are the odds are gonna it's
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  Speaker 3: just gonna be ridiculous. But it's just gonna be absurd.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm with I don't think he's out of the
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  Speaker 3: game just yet, praz But I'll say this and nothing
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  Speaker 3: to art. That's why I love the predictive markets with
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  Speaker 3: future betting like this, because I can lock in on
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen now he puts three huge games together, I'm
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  Speaker 3: cashing out before the decisions even made, and I've made
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  Speaker 3: money and I'm good, see you later. I don't even
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  Speaker 3: have to wait till the outcomes. So that's to me,
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  Speaker 3: where it comes to future bets, I'd rather go that route.
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  Speaker 1: you so much. All right, let's keep to where the
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  Speaker 1: money is going. We spoke yesterday about the stupidity of
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  Speaker 1: college football and the way it's run and organized. I
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  Speaker 1: mean the fact that other teams can't wait, Like it's like,
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  Speaker 1: go talk to the coaches now. It's fine. Three teams
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  Speaker 1: coming into the champion in the bowl season without coaches, Like,
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  Speaker 1: why they can't just wait till February. I don't understand,
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  Speaker 1: But who cares. Let's make some money. Troy James Madison,
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  Speaker 1: North Texas without their coach against Tulane and b you Y,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm not familiar with Art I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: buy is against Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Troy James Madison. We opened twenty one. We're
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  Speaker 2: now twenty three on that game. That game just continues
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  Speaker 2: to get steamed up. North Texas Tulane. We's took some
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  Speaker 2: sharp money on Tulane at three. We're now two and
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  Speaker 2: a half on the game. We took sharp money on
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  Speaker 2: the under as high as sixty seven and a half.
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  Speaker 2: We were on that total. We're now sixty six and
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  Speaker 2: BYU Rez, sorry about the typo. Texas Tech open Texas
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  Speaker 2: Tech at eleven and a half.
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  Speaker 3: We got to his highest thirteen and a half on Tech.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously they've already played we're now thirteen, so we went
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  Speaker 2: back a little bit. It feels like BYU is gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to score in the twenties to even compete and
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  Speaker 2: stay in this game. I don't know if they can
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  Speaker 2: do it against the Texas Tech defense. Obviously Texas Tech
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  Speaker 2: BYU you know, they're still fighting for playoff stuff all
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  Speaker 2: that type of intrigue in the game. But it'd be
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see if we get to fourteen on Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, we were thirteen and a half, bounce
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  Speaker 2: back to thirteen, and we didn't really bounce back to
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  Speaker 2: thirteen because of BYU money. We just kind of went
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  Speaker 2: with the market there. So that's one to keep your
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  Speaker 2: eye on. Do we approach that big number of fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: So it's interesting. The North Texas head coach is now
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  Speaker 3: the Oklahoma state head coach the press point, but he
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  Speaker 3: is in fact coaching in this game. And the Tulane coach,
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  Speaker 3: John summerl is now the new Florida head coach, but
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  Speaker 3: he too is still coaching in this game.
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  Speaker 1: So only Lane Giffen can't coach only Lane.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the deal was cut with these two guys with
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  Speaker 3: their new universities that they would be able to see
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  Speaker 3: it through to the end. So there is a good
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  Speaker 3: chance whoever wins that game is going to the College
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  Speaker 3: Football Playoff as that group of five, so either North
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  Speaker 3: Texas or Tulane. So one of those guys is likely
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to coach at least one more game after
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  Speaker 3: this one. But Lane Kiffin is out. But that's the
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  Speaker 3: other question art with BYU. Now we're hearing Penn State's
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  Speaker 3: about to sign the BYU coach, So I'm wondering at
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  Speaker 3: that point is like, well, all right, if that comes
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  Speaker 3: to fruition before kickoff on Saturday, I would imagine the
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  Speaker 3: amount of money gonna come in on Texas Tech is
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  Speaker 3: gonna be a little bit over the top. Talk about
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  Speaker 3: a distraction. This is his alma Mada and he has
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  Speaker 3: been there for a couple of years now. You gotta
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  Speaker 3: think that's got to be a bit of a distraction
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  Speaker 3: as well, you would think.
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  Speaker 2: And if that happens, and like you said, maybe the
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  Speaker 2: day before kickoff or the morning of, that number will
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  Speaker 2: get to four Tina, maybe.
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  Speaker 3: Go north of fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: So that's obviously something to keep your eye on.
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  Speaker 1: No, unreal, guys, let's keep this show moving. Parlay of
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  Speaker 1: the day. As we spoke, Art screwed up our NFL
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  Speaker 1: parlay of the day. But Art, I got no leg
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  Speaker 1: to stand on. Here we have a user listener who
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  Speaker 1: has done some serious work taking apart the success and
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  Speaker 1: failures of the parlay of the day. Joe, why don't
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  Speaker 1: you run down it down? I mean, let's go so,
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  Speaker 1: as he pointed out, he has no wife. But that's
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  Speaker 1: on the bottom in here, because is I am fifty
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  Speaker 1: my pigs hours Art sixty four seven, Joe picking NY
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  Speaker 1: seven nineteen week ste All's right, one correct out of
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  Speaker 1: we wind out of this seven? Right, that's that foftable number.
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  Speaker 1: I think given it with them on the money, and
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  Speaker 1: I think we're doing a five to one ratio. It's
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  Speaker 1: totally about breathing. If you but this, and I've been
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  Speaker 1: saying this for about one hundred years, Betham, straight Art
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  Speaker 1: and joke, Well done you guys telling it. Hey, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with leg number one and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go into the NHL. Gentlemen, I'm going to take under
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  Speaker 1: six and a half in the Toronto Florida Panthers game.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Prez, I am going to go to the
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  Speaker 3: NBA here tonight and I do not think that I
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  Speaker 3: want to get too crazy with it. Although the line
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  Speaker 3: is flipped here to Boston. I think the New York
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  Speaker 3: Knicks are the right side here tonight. They opened up
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  Speaker 3: as a one point favorite last night. I think they're
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  Speaker 3: about a one and a half point dog here tonight.
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  Speaker 3: But listen, Austin's been playing well, but there is some
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  Speaker 3: question marks about who might be in or who's out.
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  Speaker 3: I like the Knicks in this spot to go to Boston.
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  Speaker 3: Get it done. Your Knicks are the all teams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my next You're right, Celtics have been playing better.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great night at college hoops. So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: go one to one of the marquee games, and it
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  Speaker 2: is actually a big ten matchup. Iowa goes to Michigan State.
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  Speaker 2: I like Michigan State in the game. I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 2: Sparty at home to seven and oh teams, but Michigan
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  Speaker 2: State on the money line.
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  Speaker 1: Man, how good is this Michigan State team?
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  Speaker 3: Joe, Well, we're gonna find out. You're gonna find out
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  Speaker 3: really quickly tonight. I think that's for sure. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I'm starting to look like
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  Speaker 1: that coach the new York Jets guy from last year,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff old old Bridge all Bridge old Bridge, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think with this beard here and he's he's like, he's
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  Speaker 1: not a very good looking guy. No, but and I'm
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  Speaker 1: starting to resemble him.
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  Speaker 3: You are as good a defensive coordinator as he is,
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  Speaker 3: judging from how he couldn't stop the Jets last week
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  Speaker 3: from scoring. So I'm with you as the.
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  Speaker 1: Resemblance somebody went somebody went off on you yesterday or
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  Speaker 1: calling the Denver defense mediocre or whatever it was. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to that in the mailbox section of the show. Okay, So,
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  Speaker 1: in our fate or not made, what we're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: today is we're gonna talk NBA. We're gonna just each
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  Speaker 1: of us will just pick a couple of teams and
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  Speaker 1: sort of suggest how we like betting on them moving
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  Speaker 1: forward in art. Why don't we start with you?
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  Speaker 3: Sure?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm gonna look at an Eastern Conference team to
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  Speaker 2: start here, and it's Cleveland. And I know they beat
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  Speaker 2: up on Indiana. Say, but Cleveland to me is a
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  Speaker 2: team I don't think really is gonna treat the regular
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  Speaker 2: season like it's a big deal. They did that last year,
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  Speaker 2: won a bunch of games or had a ton of
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  Speaker 2: injuries going into the playoffs. I think they're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: very selective on you know, how they push their guys
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  Speaker 2: this year. They have not been good against the number.
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  Speaker 2: I would look to fade Cleveland in spots. Cleveland is
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  Speaker 2: still being priced as one of the top teams, which
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  Speaker 2: they are, but you'll probably get some inflated prices with them.
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  Speaker 2: So I would look for spots, you know, more often
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  Speaker 2: than not to fade Cleveland. And then obviously another Eastern
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Conference team that you want to bet overs even though
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: their numbers are inflated, but they keep hitting overs. Is
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the heat doesn't matter how high these heat totals are.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: The totals get they get there. I mean, you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: you got totals one to fifty or sorry, two to fifty,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and they still go over. So heatovers and go against
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: the calvs on the side.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, it's really straightforward. I was on the
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: over on the Laker game last night over two thirty
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: four missed by one fricking point. But I'm looking to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: continue to bet the overs in the Lakers game, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I know it's seventy percent of the over already on
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the year, fourteen and six, but I think this team
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: is going to lack defense and just be a lights
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: out shooting team all year. Conversely, the Raptors, who are
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: eight and thirteen to the under, are going to continue
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to be an under team. But my bet on team
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: against the spread moving forward might be the Dallas Mavericks.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I think there's going to be value here. They're eight
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and fourteen against the spread. They're not a team that's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: going to win a lot of games, and usually that
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: reflects good value opportunity. I'm going to be looking to
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: bet on Dallas against the spread moving forward. I think
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: this team is going to surprise people.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Joe, I would definitely look to back Cooper Flagg as
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: the rookie of the year. Course, he's finally starting to
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: get it, and it won't be long before Kyrie is
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: back too as well, which will help them to a
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: little bit of that stress off there. So caution with
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: the Laker love right now here, Prez, and I agree
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: with you. Certainly at home, they love to score points,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: they don't play any defense. But keep in mind that
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: the Lakers to this particular point are just four and three,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and now I think four and four after last night's
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: result against teams with winning records, and so they have
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: taken advantage of a very soft schedule early on to
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: kind of pad those numbers. But the reality is they're
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: no better than five hundred against teams that are five
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: hundred or better there, so keep an eye on that one.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: But they're definitely an over team and to me, over
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: the next month, the absolute bet on team, just simply
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: because of the way the schedule lines up is the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Houston Rockets. They have the league's easiest schedule coming up
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: in a month of December in regards to teams, and
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: they're you know, their winning percentage right now as it
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: currently stands. The rest of the way through December, the
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: teams that they play have a combined four h five
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: winning percentage. They are awful. They're under four hundred. We're
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: talking about teams like Sacramento and Dallas and Utah. They
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: should have a field day. But currently this is a
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: team with the only team that is both top five
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: in defense and offense in the NBA right now, and
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the fact that Reed Shepherd is stepping up in the
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: point guard spot here he had to replace Durant missed
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: a couple of games and the kid is dropping thirty
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: one points all over the place. They got a lot
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: of depth, they got a lot of shooting, and they
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: got a lot of anger here with Kevin Durant. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I love this Houston Rockets team.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: The month of December, guys, I just want to I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: just want all of us to talk about one team
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: in particular. I mean I was reading today Oklahoma City
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: twenty and one is their record, the LA Clippers five
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and sixteen, and Oklahoma City has the LA Clippers first
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: round draft pick coming up this Skur. I understand that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Pirates is an organization, you know, are horrible.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: You know Vancouver, Cana. There's there's a million bad organizations.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I'd like to anoint the Clippers is the single worst
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: organization in history of sport. This is a team that
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: has a bank roll, This is a team that is
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: in LA and this is a team that can't get
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: out of their own way. What that said, are we
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: looking to continue to fade the Clippers moving forward given
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: how horrible their start is, or will we see a correction?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Joe, No, the the help is not on the way.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I helped got there. It was supposed to be when
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: kawhid Len came off the you know, off the injured
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: list there and got back on. But I think last
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: night was his fifth or sixth game on the court
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: with the and I don't think they've won one of them.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: So although he'll drop his thirty points and yay, but no,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: even Kawhi Leonard is saying we need help. But the
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: problem is where's the help coming from. Maybe they should
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: make a trade. Maybe they should trade Shaye Guildris and
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: five first round draft picks George Yeah. No, two completely
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: different teams that have nothing to do with the Clippers.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: But I'll say this, the Clippers, Bradley Beal already gone,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I believe, already on the shelf. Here it is is
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: just it's become the James Harden Kawhi Leonard and let's
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: hope we have enough offense the rest of the way
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: through to try and hold on the game. It's it's
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: gone from bad to worse and the team ain't getting
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: any younger. So I don't see it getting any better, art,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: especially with how fast the tempo is. To you said,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: look at what Miami and that up tempo did that
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the Clippers. That game was over in the first half
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: it was off. They had a thirty point lead heading
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: into the third.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It was over all, right, are you taking action? Like
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: what is going on with the Clippers over there?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny the last couple of years, we've
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: taken a lot of Clippers to win the championship type
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: of stuff. But this is a team now that everybody
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: is sold on. Everybody has just said, hey, we're moving
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: away from the Clippers and press to your point, Yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: they're they're a really bad organization. But it's not like
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Balmer doesn't try. Yeah, it puts money into the team.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: They just everything they do is wrong and they don't
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: ever do anything right.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: They're in a lot of these games.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Late and they blow the games. Like Joe said, they're
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: an older team, and this is a young league with
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: teams that just want to go up and down. They
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: have motivation to play because they don't have their top pick.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: So it's not like let's just tank and get the
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: second pick. I mean, they had motivation, but they're in
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: the West, they're in the toughest conference. I mean, they're
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: a disaster of a team. This is a team who
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: looks like they're gonna win twenty games.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, guys put up in the comments section. We spoke
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: about this last week. You know, the LA Clippers Hall
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of Fame or their wall of fame when you walk
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: into their stadium and you see all the great LA
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Clippers from the past. Give me three names, three names
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: of an LA Clipper that would be on their wall
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of fame. The Indiana Pacers, Joe, there's a team that
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: was lights out last year over every game they won.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: For this year, what do we do with the Pacers
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: moving forward?
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Well, you look to backup because they're never going to
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: get any respect in the market. But they're actually great
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: against the number at home. Listen, once they lost Halibert
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: last year in games there. This year was a last
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: year and everybody everybody knew it. So they are but
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: they're not going to roll over for anybody. They're never
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: going to get any love in the market. So to me,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: are Indiana with Rick Carlisle. They are going to be
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: a bet on team because they're gonna be so undervalued
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: in spots that yeah, especially at home, they will be.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: They will be a very good bet moving forward in
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: certain spots against certain teams.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree. I will say this though, because
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: it's a legendary top three draft. This year might not
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: be the worst thing if the Pacers really just they've.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Already bottomed out.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: But if they really bottom out this year, get a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: top three pick, you know, get the by Uk, get
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the Kansas Kid, get the Duke Kid, and put him
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: back with Haliburton and the rest of that team. They're
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: right back at the top of the East. So that's
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: not the worst thing as far as a plan for
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the Pacers. But when Carlisle is your coach, you're probably
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: gonna play hard, night in and night out.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: So you're telling me that the Oklahoma City Thunder can
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: get a monster pick from the Ala Clippers. Still, God,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the trade that keeps giving. Wow, that was awesome, Art
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Di Caezer, thanks for doing this, dude, Uh tomorrow, I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: say we do exactly what we just did. But with
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the NHL, that was a fun segment. Thanks Art. What's
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: going on over at the Westgate?
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Well, let me just.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: You know, I know, I always try to give out
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: information if I can with the NBA NHL on college basketball,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you some college basketball because obviously it's
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a monster night of college hoops. Obviously we already had
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: mentioned that Iowa's at Michigan State game total has gone
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: down from our opener on that game from one thirty
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: five and a half to one thirty two and a half.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Tennessee Syracuse. We open that Tennessee six and a half.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Sharp money has taken that to eight and a half.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Kentucky and UNC Sharp money has taken that from one
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: fifty nine and a half is an opening total to
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: one sixty three. Florida and Duke another really great game.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Sharp money on the over one fifty five to one
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: fifty eight. And the Yukon Kansas game. Yukon goes to Kansas.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: You know Yukon one and a half two point favorite there,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: but totally shot up on that game as well. Opener
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: was won forty and a half. Sharps have bet that
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: up to one forty three and a half. So a
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: lot of sharps on the overs in these games against
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: these really good teams.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Brilliant keep an eye on too. It just came across
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: that Darren Peterson, the presumptive number one draft pick this
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: year in Kansas, He's missed the last four games here,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: with last three games here with a hamstring injury he's
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: now upgraded to questionable tonight in that uk A Yukon
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: game Art, if he's announced, I would imagine if if
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: what Yukon Land won one and a half right now?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: You yeah, I saw as high as two. I think
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: that flips Kansas.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Cost absolutely This kid's a go absolutely flips and now
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: he's questionable. So that's good news for Kansas.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: That's your segment Art. Thanks for doing this, brother, Get
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the hell out of here, Art de Caesar. Everybody, Joe,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: we got lots of shows to left. You're gonna do
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: every NBA game on the board, I'll do every NHL game.
• 29:24
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• 29:27
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  Speaker 1: Joe, we got our early college football bets, our early
• 31:39
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• 31:42
  Speaker 1: We're on the clock from here on in two minute
• 31:46
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• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Go all right, Prez, here we go. Let's talk conference
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: championships and let's go to the American Athletic with one
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: team that I have cast a number of tickets on
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: this year, and that is North Texas taken on two lane,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: the Green Wave and the Mean Green, both with head
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: coaches while that have one foot out the door, they'll
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: both be leaving North Texas. Is Eric Morris heading to
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: my old alma mata there the Oklahoma State Cowboys. Why
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: John Sumbral will be heading to the uniser University of
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Florida Gators. This is a small number here. Two and
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: a half three maybe at most is what we're going
• 32:30
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• 32:34
  Speaker 3: total is hilarious here because if you're expecting defense, you're
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: probably not going to get a ton of bit. But
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: when it comes down to it, Jake Ratzlef has been really,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: really good for the Green Wave, but he is not
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: going to outduel this offense here of North Texas. I
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: like North Texas not only to get it done, I
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: like him to get it done rather easily. I think
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: the numbers cheap preys. I'm on North Texas to get
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: it done against Toulane.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Joe, let's go straight into NFL. Indianapolis Colts on the
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: road playing Jacksonville, and I am absolutely baffled by this line.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: You got an Indianapolis Goldsteam that's lost two in a
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: row and three of their last four. This Indianapolis Golds
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: team is two and three on the road. The last
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: good team the Colts beat was the Chargers back on
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: October nineteenth. Now they're playing a Jacksonville team that's won
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: three straight games. They in those three games, they held
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Tennessee to three and the Chargers to six. They're putting
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: up over twenty points a game. I don't know. This
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: is the wrong team is favored here. I mean, just
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: that's it. Take Jacksonville. This is one of my favorite
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: bets of the week. This is such an insult to
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, it's ridiculous. I am confused by the slide, Joe.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I kind of like that present. I'm with you there,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I don't understand it.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And it's not like I'm high on the Jags, but
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: like yep, they won three in a row, three of
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: their last four, of their last five. One team is
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: going this way, one team is going that way anyway.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: NBA Rundown, the mic is yours all right?
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Here we go interesting slate here tonight the Wizards and
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: the Sixers going at it. Wizards on the road here
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: after given quite a fight to the Milwaukee Bucks last night.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Coming up short shocker and the seventy six Ers a
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: couple of nights ago, ran out of players in a
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: double overtime loss to the Atlanta Hawks. Now they're laying
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: almost two touchdowns. Why I have no idea, but likely
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: this game is going to go over the total. The
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Toronto Raptors kind of licking their wounds from losing to
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Charlotte somehow a couple nights ago. Now they're back home,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: welcoming into Portland Trailblazers. They are laying five five and
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: a half. Raptors have had a little bit of offensive
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: issues here once our j Barrett went down. Can't trust
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: them to lay this five to five and a half.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I think the Trail Blazers keep it close. The grizz
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: on the road taking on to San Antonio Spurs. Jaron
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Jackson back all of a sudden, has really energized this
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Grizzlies team. Although they only beat up five hundred or
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: be low teams, that is not what the Spurs are like.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: The Spurs role here tonight. The Pelicans, Wow are they bad?
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: The Timberwolves, Wow? Are they not covering big numbers? My
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: goodness here they are laying ten ten and a half
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: here on the road. Man only played the Timberwolves in
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: the first half because when they get to the fourth
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: quarter and they have a lead, they figure out a
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: way to blow it. So first half for Minnesota for me,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I already told you I like the Knicks tonight on
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: the road against the Celtics, the Thunder another team. Congrats
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: on your twenty and one record, but you've beaten the
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: dregs of the NBA along the way, which is exactly
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: what you've done. But you don't usually cover great numbers
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: and big numbers like this. Eleven eleven and a half
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: is what they're laying. But where is the offense from
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: the Warriors coming? I have no idea, No Steph Curry,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: no Warriors. I'll lay it with the thunder Prez and
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: there you go. For the NBA Joe a million NHL games,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: let's get to it. Ontawa playing Montreal. I think the
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: wrong team is favored here. I like Montreal. I mean
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: it's barely.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Plus one oh five, but I at home, I think
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Montreal gets it done. I like Detroit and regulation against
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: a very injured Boston Bruins team plus. I feel like
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Detroit is about to go on a mini run. So
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: look for Detroit and regulation at around minus one thirty.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I like the New York Islanders. I think it's a
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: bad spot. But Tampa Bay, Hey, you can get the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Islanders at plus money plus one twenty five. Take them.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: As far as Dallas playing the Rangers, I'm gonna stick
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: with dogs here. We're gonna take the Rangers at plus
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: one ten against the Dallas Stars, Toronto and Florida. I've
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: already mentioned that I like the under in this game.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I also like the Leafs at plus one fifty, so
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: there's more dog money for you guys. Calgary playing Nashville,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: say it ain't so team shit versus team crap. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna take over the total of five and a half
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  Speaker 1: in this game. We've spoken about this before. When two
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  Speaker 1: shit teams play against each other, expect scores Colorado minus
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  Speaker 1: three p thirty. Parlay them with Vegas at minus two
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  Speaker 1: eighty eight. I think that gets you to minus one
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven. Want to know why I know that number
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  Speaker 1: because I made that bet. Vegas and Colorado a parlay
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  Speaker 1: minus one twenty seven. I like the Oilers to get
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  Speaker 1: it done. Money coming in on Minnesota. Line has dropped
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  Speaker 1: down to one forty seven. I think they win that game.
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  Speaker 1: I've already spoken to you about Vegas. Parlay them with Colorado,
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  Speaker 1: and I like the Kings here Joe a short minus
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  Speaker 1: one twenty favorite against the New York Islanders.
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  Speaker 3: I can't get over the Blackhawks, man, I just I
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: really can't. Finally starting to put it together. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: feels good. Yeah. And what is wrong with your Maple Leafs?
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Mike No, Mitch Marner and you can't win the games? What? What? What? Ue?
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: What is wrong with your Florida Panthers injuries? I know
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: what's wrong with my Panthers game. Damn injuries team. So
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I'm starting goaltender hasn't played in three weeks. Austin Matthews
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  Speaker 1: missed a bunch of games. Nis miss games. Need what
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  Speaker 1: that said? They suck?
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  Speaker 3: They do suck's exactly. Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not touched. They just sucked.
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  Speaker 3: Move on. I was waiting to see defend them. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: All right, College basketball here, you heard Art talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Actually one of my favorite times a year, especially when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to the acc SEC Challenge taking place here.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of big name brands going at it. One
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  Speaker 3: of them happens to be the University of Florida defending
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  Speaker 3: champions taking on the Duke Blue Devils. It's in Cameron Indoor,
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  Speaker 3: and I think this is a really good time to
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  Speaker 3: buy low on the Florida Gators. Why well, let's face it,
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  Speaker 3: they have a lot of their big men, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of their big forwards came back here this year, which
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  Speaker 3: was great, but they were gonna have to replace the
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  Speaker 3: guards and Xavian Lee and Boogie Fland are still working
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  Speaker 3: through it. But I do think some positive shooting regression
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  Speaker 3: is coming for them, and once they get on the
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  Speaker 3: same page, that's gonna be really really good news here
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  Speaker 3: for the Gators. Listen, Duke is Duke, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: But they have length and the athleticism to make life
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: a little bit more difficult for Cameron Boozer than other
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  Speaker 3: teams have. So yeah, I think the eight and a
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  Speaker 3: half points right now is a little too much. I
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  Speaker 3: think the Gators can get it or at least stay
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  Speaker 3: within that number here tonight. The other game is with
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  Speaker 3: the team in my neck of the woods, the University
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  Speaker 3: of Miami, who has done an amazing job of beating
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  Speaker 3: the snots out of nobody's and I mean absolutely nobody's.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: They did handle Georgetown, but Georgetown had two of their
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: best players out for that game. I just can't buy
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: the Canes on the road. I think Old Miss has
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  Speaker 3: more than enough to be able to win this game
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  Speaker 3: on their own home court. Lay in four. I'd only
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  Speaker 3: look at Old Miss in this one, and boy put
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  Speaker 3: up a shut up time for the University of Kentucky.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: How many more games are you gonna lose against top
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: twenty five teams. You've lost the Louisville You've lost the
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Michigan State eight. You're at home at Roperena. I think
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  Speaker 3: they get it done against Carolina here tonight. Press Joe
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  Speaker 3: Mailbag section of the show. Guys, we do this every Tuesday, Wednesday,
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  Speaker 3: Thursday and Friday.
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  Speaker 1: So make sure to put comments up. If you have
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  Speaker 1: any questions, let us know. Shout out to Neil Siri.
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  Speaker 1: We spoke about him before. He's a gentleman that put
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: together all that work on our parlay of the Day.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Richard Lockhart, Joe. Richard Lockhart tells us
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that the Saints are one and eleven in the first
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: quarter against the spread this year. They're playing the box
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: this Sunday. He suggests taking Tapa Bay in the first quarter.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm really.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Appreciative Richard that you put that stat up because as
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, and I talk about this on
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Endzo Live, our Sunday show, we're all in this together.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: If you guys unearthed great trends, let us know what
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: they are. Joe. We also have a slick who got
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: on your back about the Denver Broncos. You mentioned that
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: their defense is not as good as we all thought.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: He talks about the fact that they're the fifth best
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: in yards allowed or the fourth best in points Aloud,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: they're the fifth best in rushing yards per game. With
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: all that said, they've played a bunch of nobody's so
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: take that with a grain of salt. And as far
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  Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, no matter how good your numbers are,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: if you can't stop a shitter at the end of
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: the game in a game that you're winning, you got problems.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: So I'm with Joe. They are good, ye not great.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And the last thing I wanted to talk to firstly,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: before we get into that, we read all these positive ones.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Chad Boom boom, great work guys, Steven, what's up? What's cooking?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: You know? Bill Robinson? Have you watched the series Justified?
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I watched the earst four seasons, so yes, kind of
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: it just got a.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Little bit boring.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: So we do see all these great comments, and I'm
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: really happy to read them. But Joe, what I want
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to talk about is this. Nick Brolan comes on and
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: he says, so on the NBA rundown yesterday, you said
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the Cavs will get it done. Then I think you
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: did an NBA show where you talked about the Indiana
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Pacers and how you like them, And how can he
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: reconcile the fact that you had different opinions on different shows. Now,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: what I want to say is this, we do this
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: show early in the morning, and when we do our
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: NBA College Basketball and NHL rundown, we are giving you
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: our immediate initial impressions on every game on the board.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: There is no way that Joe is betting every NBA
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: game on the board. I am not betting every NHL
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: game on the board on Tuesday, I take my NFL
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: residential address. On Sunday the games happen change made Joe
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: likely did a deeper dive later on and then changed
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: his opinion to Indiana. So when we do all of
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: the shows we do firstly, we do not keep track
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: of what we're giving out on these rundown bets. We
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: just don't. These are our initial gut reactions. We are
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: not suggesting that you bet every one of them. We're
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: suggesting that you use that information to help you make
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: your own decisions. So that is how we reconcile that. Joe,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: do you want to add anything to that?
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: No, And the listen I'm running down. We do the
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: rundown to give you some initial ideas of where the
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: line is and what the initial reaction is. The reason
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: and he's talking about a free play that I posted
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: last night. He's talking about the Pacers right and having
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: dived into it, and there was some question marks later
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: in the day about who was that going, especially the NBA,
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: where it was worth a it was worth posting as
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: a free play that yes, that the Pacers, And by
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: the way, if it wasn't for a terrible first quarter, yeah,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: they cover that game and likely when it as well,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: because once again, what I had figured and what I
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: feared was that Cleveland was going to run out of
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: steam the later that game went on the second of
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: a back to back, and I was right. But they
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: couldn't hit, they couldn't miss anything in the first quarter,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: and that's why they got it done. Doesn't change the
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: fact that my best bet yesterday for clients was the
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: over in the Milwaukee Bucks and the Washington Wizards game.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: And guess what that did. Yes, that won. So again,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: what we're giving you here on the show is a
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: pretty good starting point for you to go and do
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: your own research and figure it out, all right, because
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you. It's not written
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: in gold. We're just giving you at ten o'clock in
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: the morning in the NBA, no less prez on what
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: our initials thoughts are. It's not that hard, guys, that's
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 46:04
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• 46:19
  Speaker 1: And guys, we are working on doing a live show.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: We have a tentative date that I'm still working on
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that would be Friday, December nineteenth, so that will hopefully
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: be our first but not our last, live show. It'll
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: happen at one pm Eastern and Brian Power and Art
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: to Caesar will be on that show, so all four
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: of us together. I am waiting for confirmation, but I
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: am hoping it is on Friday, December nineteenth, our first
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: live show ever. Joe, thanks brother, We'll see you tomorrowoo
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  Speaker 3: Yak