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Detroit Tigers Center Field Questions Linger · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Battel Territory Network, a Detroit Tigers podcast. I'm Kieren
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  Speaker 1: Steckley with me as always as a man who doesn't
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  Speaker 1: own any Tesla stock, but his writing is electric. He
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  Speaker 1: is Cody Savinagan.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, Hey, I'm doing good, Kieren. We're here
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  Speaker 2: on the eve of opening Day and suddenly more questions
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  Speaker 2: than ever help this Detroit Tigers team, namely, who's going
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  Speaker 2: to play center field? Have you figured this out? I
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  Speaker 2: have not figured it out yet.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, I have gone. I've referens this all the time,
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  Speaker 1: but the the always sunny and Philadelphia Charlie Day, with
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  Speaker 1: the with the with the board and the lines, and
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  Speaker 1: and I've gone, I've done. We got one. Yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: like that. Ya ya. Gotta watch this on YouTube to see,
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  Speaker 1: uh see Cody's handy work there. It's it's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And then I get more confused when I read like
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  Speaker 1: Scott Harris or aj Hinch. Sometimes I'm like it just okay,
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  Speaker 1: we'll bring it down. We have not talked about this yet, Cody,
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  Speaker 1: but the Tigers did make a roster addition that is
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  Speaker 1: in the form of Manuel Margo, a journeyman outfielder. He
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  Speaker 1: is thirty years old. I believe, yes, he is thirty
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  Speaker 1: years old and a right handed thrower. And hit her
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  Speaker 1: first reaction, Okay, here's a veteran guy, kind of helped fill,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fill out the gaps here a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Who they're gonna drop, They're gonna drop nobody, Parker Meadows
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  Speaker 1: is going to the sixty. I know I'm saying a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things right now. We'll break it down here
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more in a second. My first reaction
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  Speaker 1: is like, all right, here's the guy who's had some
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  Speaker 1: center field experience, and and you have down your down
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  Speaker 1: for center fielders, and you don't want to play Riley
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  Speaker 1: Green in center field. And the more I kind of
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  Speaker 1: broke down and read and read and looked at stats
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  Speaker 1: and numbers, and I became less clear. I guess you
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  Speaker 1: could say about everything, Cody. And as of now, as
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  Speaker 1: of now, there have not been any more roster moves
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  Speaker 1: or roster decisions, so maywell one year, one point three million.
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  Speaker 1: There's some incentive structures in there, the Scott Hair Special
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  Speaker 1: as the kids are calling it. Cody, here your reaction
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  Speaker 1: to bringing in Margo to the Tigers.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, when this came out, it was just before
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  Speaker 2: the Tigers departed Florida, before their last spring training game
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  Speaker 2: in Florida. Sorry, we didn't get to it in our
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  Speaker 2: last episode. We had already taped that and I had
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  Speaker 2: a flight to catch. So when I first saw it,
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  Speaker 2: I thought, Number one, is this a major league deal?
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  Speaker 2: Because Margo kind of makes sense. But we got the
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  Speaker 2: sense the Tigers really liked what Torque and Jayson had
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  Speaker 2: done this spring. Found out it was a major league deal. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he hits, left handed pitching, pretty good defensive track. I'm
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  Speaker 2: on board with that. That was under the guys that
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  Speaker 2: I thought he was going to mostly play center field,
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  Speaker 2: even before Wintel Perez, we'll get to in a second.
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  Speaker 2: He's now hurt. There's a world where you could feel
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  Speaker 2: better about Margo. Perez did not at all have a
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  Speaker 2: good finished campaign. I had three hits whole spring, so
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  Speaker 2: I was on board with it. And then we find
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  Speaker 2: out Perez is hurt, and we also find out the
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  Speaker 2: Tigers didn't sign Margo with the intention of him playing
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  Speaker 2: much center field. They like him more in the corners.
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  Speaker 2: And then that kind of made me think, Okay, why
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  Speaker 2: what was the point. Does that help you? Unfortunately, it
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  Speaker 2: seems to indicate they don't really like one of Tork
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  Speaker 2: or Jayhen. We know Torks positionally limited. We know Jayhen
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  Speaker 2: gives you a great at bat every time, but he's
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  Speaker 2: really not a good left fielder. So it seems more
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  Speaker 2: about the defense. But I would argue at this point
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  Speaker 2: you should just play the guy in centerfield if you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to play right, green and centerfield. Margo at
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  Speaker 2: one point in his career was an elite center fielder.
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  Speaker 2: Now that was a long time ago, but he's also
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  Speaker 2: on the Tampa Bay Rays who had Kevin Kiermeyer. Then
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  Speaker 2: that's Wins who had Bien Buckson. He didn't have to
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  Speaker 2: play a ton of center field. He still has played
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  Speaker 2: some out there, played twenty one games out there last year.
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  Speaker 2: His defense has fallen to average, maybe even slightly below average.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're looking to live with someone in center
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  Speaker 2: field for a month a month plus, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: that's the worst idea. That's why I'm now just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit confused about what the point is in bringing
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  Speaker 2: in Margo. There's some things to like about his bat
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  Speaker 2: seven to fifty three career ops against lefties, But does
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  Speaker 2: that worth it at the expense of torkl sen or
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  Speaker 2: jayhen on the roster. I have a hard time justifying
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  Speaker 2: that if you're going to just be putting him in
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  Speaker 2: left or right field.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, like to me there, if you gave me
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  Speaker 1: somebody who had a real calling call like I'm I
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  Speaker 1: I can track that, you know what I mean? Like,
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  Speaker 1: but Margo just seems like, and I don't even mean
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  Speaker 1: this in like a bad way. He seems kind of
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  Speaker 1: like mediocre at a lot of things. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: you need guys. You need guys that are mediocre at
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things in order to have a full team.
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  Speaker 2: So I just made the playoffs with the team full
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  Speaker 2: of a lot of those type of players. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, not not a criticism, not an insult. But you
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  Speaker 1: didn't bring in a guy that just like has an
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  Speaker 1: elite glove to play in center field and holds you
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  Speaker 1: down for you know, two months. You didn't bring in
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  Speaker 1: a guy with an elite bat to just kind of
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  Speaker 1: give your lineup some more punch before you get fully healthy.
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  Speaker 1: You brought in a guy who, yes, versus lefties last season,
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  Speaker 1: he did hit two sixty nine slogged almost four hundred.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't been a positive dwar guy in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years now. And and if you're you know, playing
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  Speaker 1: in Camerica, you know like that that does like concern
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  Speaker 1: me a little bit. The fact that this was a
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  Speaker 1: major league deal like led me to again like think, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there's like a real tangible plan here, but it hasn't
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  Speaker 1: really been displayed yet, Like it hasn't been laid out
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  Speaker 1: for me yet. And that brings me back to something
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  Speaker 1: that I've been I'll say, we, Cody, have been been like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: like like you have somebody who can hold down center
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  Speaker 1: field temporarily. His name is Riley Green. He was an
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  Speaker 1: All Star last year. I'll know, have you ever heard
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  Speaker 1: of him? But it seems like they are they being
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers are very intentional on limiting Riley Green's opportunities
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  Speaker 1: over in center field. And actually we have Scott Harris
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  Speaker 1: speaking on this very topic. I think it'd be good
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  Speaker 1: if we played that right now here, Cody, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't think it really changes how we feel about Riley
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  Speaker 3: stepping back and addressing it from a higher level perspective.
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  Speaker 3: When you go through injury, it's always tempting to run
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  Speaker 3: your healthy guys out there more often to compensate for
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  Speaker 3: your losses. But we have to resist the temptation to
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  Speaker 3: do that. If we run our healthy guys into the
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  Speaker 3: ground by playing them too much, we're only compounding our
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  Speaker 3: issues right now. So we expected Riley to play a
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  Speaker 3: lot in the corners, We expected him to play some
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  Speaker 3: center field. In light of this news, we have to
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  Speaker 3: go back to the drawing board and figure out what
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  Speaker 3: is the best strategy to help us win games.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a.
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  Speaker 1: Conversation we'll probably have when we get to Dodger Stadium,
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  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 2: So as I listened to that, Scott actually seems a
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  Speaker 2: little more open to the idea. Then then I thought,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when I first heard him say it live,
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  Speaker 2: but it really it's also kind of like, what did
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  Speaker 2: any of that mean exactly? I get the thought that
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  Speaker 2: you could compound your troubles if Riley Green goes to
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  Speaker 2: center and then because it's more on his body, he
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  Speaker 2: gets hurt. What could possibly go wrong when you're already
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  Speaker 2: down for center fielders, you lose your best position player,
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  Speaker 2: That's what could go wrong. Still, the alternative to Green
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  Speaker 2: in center if you're not gonna play Margo and center
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  Speaker 2: is reading between the lines with Scott Harris said yesterday
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Kreidler, Ryan Kreiler, the Tigers had already optioned him,
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  Speaker 2: and they left him in Florida, and then they called
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  Speaker 2: him and said, hey, buddy, we need you to fly
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  Speaker 2: across the country. He started Game one in the Tigers exhibition.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Kreiler said it before. He's a great guy. I
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  Speaker 2: like so many things. I love watching him play shortstop.
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  Speaker 2: I can't really get on board with him being on
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  Speaker 2: this roster, especially if he's not an infielder in center field.
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  Speaker 2: He looks pretty good in center He's only played twenty
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  Speaker 2: games there, even in the minor leagues. Kiaran, we don't
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  Speaker 2: even know that he's better than Riley Green or Manuel Margo. Also,
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  Speaker 2: try to build a lineup against right handed pitching, Go
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  Speaker 2: write it out. I'm not We're not gonna go through
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  Speaker 2: all the names. Are you gonna play Ryan Kreidler in
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  Speaker 2: centerfield against right handed pitching? Kieran Ryan Kreidler in his
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  Speaker 2: Big Lee career has hit one thirty three with a
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  Speaker 2: three seventy two OPS against righty's. To me, I think
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  Speaker 2: it'd be worth the risk to just put Riley Green
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  Speaker 2: or Manuel Margo in center field. Maybe you live with
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  Speaker 2: a bad defender like Jayhen and left, but maybe you
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  Speaker 2: bank on the bats a little more. You could go
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  Speaker 2: Jayhen left, Margo left, Green center, vice versa Kerry Carpenter
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  Speaker 2: and right. What's nuts like about that?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 1: I look, this is where I come back to, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I understand trying to get the most out of Riley Green,
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  Speaker 1: or to get the most out of him. He's got
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  Speaker 1: to be healthy. I understand the injury history. He's also
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  Speaker 1: twenty four years old. He's also a guy who has
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  Speaker 1: plenty of underfield experience. They let him play center field
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  Speaker 1: all the way coming up through the system. It's not
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  Speaker 1: like a new position for him. I think he would
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  Speaker 1: relish in that number one number two. That scenario that
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  Speaker 1: Scott Harris just laid out is that like sometime in center.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what qualifies as sometime in center, Cody,
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  Speaker 1: but I would imagine on the list of some time
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  Speaker 1: in center, possibilities would be I don't know, but dude
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  Speaker 1: breaks a bone, Barely has her shoulder strain, Meadows has
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  Speaker 1: an arm injury, and Perez has a back injury. To me,
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  Speaker 1: that seems like a pretty pretty suitable UH criteria to
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  Speaker 1: play Riley Green in centerfield, and you talked about right
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  Speaker 1: handed pitching against left handed pitching, there's still a hole
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  Speaker 1: in there that that you that you have to figure
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  Speaker 1: out that probably just leads to playing Carry Carpenter against
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  Speaker 1: left handed pitching. Because even like again, like what other ops.
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  Speaker 2: Your center field or your outfield could be Green, Green, Kreidler,
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  Speaker 2: Margo and Rynan. Kreiler's still not that great against left
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  Speaker 2: handed pitching. So I don't like that. But then it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: well they bring in someone from the outside. Scott Harris
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  Speaker 2: indicated they weren't really too keen on that idea. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't think they're they're name on that impactful. Now the
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  Speaker 2: Angels just parted ways with Mickey Moniac. People on Twitter
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  Speaker 2: seem to love this idea. I'm there's a world where
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  Speaker 2: you could use a left handed center fielder. It looked
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  Speaker 2: kind of nice in that lineup against righty's. That doesn't
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't help you against lefties. I know that's the
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  Speaker 2: short side of the platoon, but Mickey Moniac is unplayable
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  Speaker 2: against left handed pitching. Of five oh one ops for
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  Speaker 2: his career, The defense better be damn good to justify
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  Speaker 2: something like that. And even against Righty's look, Moniac was
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  Speaker 2: really good in twenty three. He had a six fifty
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  Speaker 2: nine ops against Righty's last season that was pretty much
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  Speaker 2: the same as Manuel Margo against Righty's. He's probably a
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  Speaker 2: better defender. But one thing they liked about Margo. Back
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  Speaker 2: to ball skills, Mickey Moniac ks a lot, does not
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  Speaker 2: walk at all. Those are things that are against the
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  Speaker 2: Scott Harris ethos so Moniac. I don't know, maybe sort
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  Speaker 2: of also, who are you taking off the roster to
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  Speaker 2: get him on there? It kind of leads you back
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  Speaker 2: to being a little overly left handed. I think you
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  Speaker 2: can toss that in the bucket of about six imperfect
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  Speaker 2: solutions we're looking at right now, and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's the simplest one. Remember when you start about Akham's razor.
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  Speaker 2: I think the simplest solution is the best, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it's one of Riley Green or Manuel Margo and center.
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  Speaker 2: I also do want to say Riley Green actually didn't
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  Speaker 2: grade out that well in center field in twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 2: negative seven defensive run safe, So I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: can't Margo Play Center. What else did you get them?
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  Speaker 1: I agree, and I can't wait to watch how this
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  Speaker 1: Ago, absolutely, So that's something we're watching for. We'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you something else we're watching for, but broadly, Cody, something
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  Speaker 1: that I am watching for. Keep Riley Green here on
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  Speaker 1: a focus for a second because I still am shouting
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  Speaker 1: at the mountaintops. So this guy needs to be getting
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  Speaker 1: more respect. Like granted, on Monday, did he have the
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: easiest home run that he will have all season at
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  Speaker 1: eighty three mile hour hanging slider? Probably? But did he
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  Speaker 1: crush that ball with like what one? Thirteen? Almost?
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  Speaker 2: Ev How cool does it have to feel to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I hit one in McCovey Cove? All right? Yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 2: I've played the giant in MLB the show, just like
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  Speaker 2: I want it sort of go deep with someone in
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  Speaker 2: McCovey Cove, and I haven't been able to do it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the dudes on the video game don't hit
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  Speaker 2: it that far. That's good, that's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome. And like every time he does something,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, put some respect on his name, all right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: and here's here's something I'm talking about again, All Star
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  Speaker 1: last year, only twenty four years old, Like there's I
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  Speaker 1: don't think anyone thinks he's a finished product. I was
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: looking at MVP odds. Cody and Riley Green is at
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  Speaker 1: about plus five thousand, and the you in the eight
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  Speaker 1: to seventeen ish whatever of guys that you can just
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  Speaker 1: kind of throw a buck or two if you want
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  Speaker 1: to on long shot odds. I was like, okay, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: it seems relatively fair until I saw that he was
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  Speaker 1: tied and this is with Bett MGM. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: he was tied with Wyatt Langford. Now I like Wyatt Langford.
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  Speaker 1: I've watched him a lot. I was one of the
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  Speaker 1: people that was really down for the Tigers to take
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Wyat Langford a couple of years ago in the draft.
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  Speaker 1: If they had wild Langford on this team, one would
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  Speaker 1: think you would feel a little bit better about this lineup.
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  Speaker 1: So all that is true, It's not an indictment of anybody.
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  Speaker 1: I like, whyitet Langford? Why does Riley Green have the
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  Speaker 1: same odds as White Langford for MVP? Like, if you're
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: betting on Whyat Langford for MVP, there's a number that
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: you can call that's at the back of every single
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  Speaker 1: sports advertisement. Okay, he's not like he's second on the team. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: seegers up there, you know, Simeon.
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  Speaker 2: Like an MVP caliber September For whatever that's worth.
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  Speaker 1: He's good. I don't even want to criticize him. He
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  Speaker 1: is not. He should not be getting the same odds
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  Speaker 1: as Riley Green. So Riley Green is still being short
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  Speaker 1: changed a little bit nationally, and I think like having him,
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  Speaker 1: like if he comes up and plays center field for
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. That's also part of the Riley Green
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  Speaker 1: story that I think would be beneficial for him and
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers in terms of the amount of tension of
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  Speaker 1: him getting the attention he deserves. So that's like my
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  Speaker 1: quick little Riley Green kind of rant there, like we're
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  Speaker 1: not talking about this enough in my opinion code, We're
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: not talking to do that thing. We're not talking about
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  Speaker 1: it enough, except for the fact that he killed it
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  Speaker 1: in spring too. He quietly killed spring training like he
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: looks dialed in, like in a good way, but in
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  Speaker 1: a way that you feel comfortable, like, you know, metaphorically
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  Speaker 1: betting on him in the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Riley Green is really good. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna win MVP in the league with Gunner Henderson
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  Speaker 2: and Aaron Judge and Bobby Witt, but I think he
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  Speaker 2: could be a top five finisher without a doubt. So
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  Speaker 2: that's that's all I got to add. I've said that before,
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  Speaker 2: I'll say it again. Riley Green's really good. White Langford's
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  Speaker 2: pretty good too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah again, I like him. Team looks a lot different
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  Speaker 1: if if he's on it. All right, let's uh, let's
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  Speaker 1: get the Parker Meadows piece of this, Cody we uh
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  Speaker 1: we You and I were texting, it's like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: like what are they gonna do forty man with the
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  Speaker 1: with the Margo signing and and it's like, well, could
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  Speaker 1: this be like doom sixty day for you know, either
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  Speaker 1: Verer Lane or Parker? And then we later got our answer.
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  Speaker 1: It's Parker. We just got a I don't have it
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  Speaker 1: in front of me, but we just got a an
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: injury report from the Tigers. And it's not really anything new,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't expect anything new, but sixty day DL
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: for Parker Meadows to start the season is honestly on
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: a list of how could you start this season? You know, catastrophically,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: like if you were if we were to do this
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: in January twenty twenty five, that would that would that
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: would make the cut? I think so.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Number one that's Schooble. It's not number two, that's Riley Green.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: It might be number three, and yeah, like it was
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: supposed to be a couple of days and then as well,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: he's gonna need some rest, and well, he's gonna need
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of rest, and then he's not gonna be
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: ready for opening day, and then well we'll see, hopefully
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: we get back. Now he's on the sixty day il
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: this thing is dragged out. It's kind of become worst
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: case scenario. We still don't I mean, he's prescribed four
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: weeks of rest. We don't necessarily know that that's going
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: to solve the solution. I've said since day one, nerve
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: things are weird. That is my clinical diagnosis there. That's
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: all I've got. Every player I've ever encountered with any
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: sort of nerve issue, it always takes a really long time.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So now you're hoping it's sixty days minimum. You're hoping
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: he's able to start a rehab assignment after four weeks
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: and get going. That could be optimistic. We could be
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: pushing this thing into June, just based on the information
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: we have right now. Parker Meadows, we know is going
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to miss at least one third of the season, and
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: we don't know who's going to play in center field.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe a Kiel Bado is the first of these guys
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: to get back and could have a chance. I don't know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: we've seen a kill, buta do play a lot of
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: center field. It's not necessarily that pretty, So like, yeah,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: this is this is bad. This is this is discouraging
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: the entire situation.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Well and like specific to Parker Meadows, it affects in
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: my opinion, like how you how you manufacture runs, Like
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: having him in the lineup completely changes the dynamic of
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: your team offensively. Obviously he's got he's got some like
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: raw power in there. He's got extra base power for sure,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: he's got speed and and like he just impacts winning
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: like he like you just look at the team record.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: He just impacts winning. And he's still a lot younger
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: than you think. You think there's still more in there.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And no, by the way, maybe maybe you know it's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you know, mid June and he's rolling and you're like, okay,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it's still gonna be all right. You just don't know.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: You just don't know with Parker and and I think
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: like it has to change your approach, which goes back
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: to the Margo thing. Is like without Parker metals in
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: your line if you have to change your approach offensively
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, so that's why I'm like, that's why
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like against left handed pitching. You know what I'm doing.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I'm throwing in care Carpenter and saying you want it,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: go get it, like we need we need something, you
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like like untangling to the
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Parker Medals. Thing affects so many other aspects of this team.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: It really does. And based on actions, it seems like
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: there are two things three things that Tigers don't want
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: to do Rightley Green and center field, Kerry Carbonerian's danded pitching,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: and Justin Henry Malloy playing the outfield. If Kreidler were
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to get on this team, Jayhen might lose a roster
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: spot one. It's worker Jayhen who've done a lot of
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: nice things are going and I don't know if I
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: agree with that decision. I think I would almost just
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: bank on being able to get a little bit of
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: power from those guys. The Tigers, by signing Labor Torres,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: seem to indicate they don't care about infield defense. But
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: it seems they really do care about outfield defense. And
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: that makes sense. Right you're talking we're okay with permitting singles,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: We're not okay with permitting doubles and triples. I would
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: love to see what their analytics team has crunched on
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: that status on that topic, but it seems like there's
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: something there in the way they have constructed this team
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and even in the way they are making decisions right
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: now to go back to offense. Though, here's a fun question,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: who is your leadoff hitter against right handed pitching? So
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I would have said Parker Meadows, and then I probably
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: would have said when Soil Perez, it's not gonna be
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: what are those guys? Maybe it's now Riley Green, which
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I guess you could feel okay with, but it you
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: know it, this impacts your entire order glabor. Could I
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: like Glaber kind of in the two hole? Yeah, so
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: you could, But then like, how comfortable are you with
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Tour because he hit and clean up against right Like
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I can't like your top four to five could still
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: be pretty good, but it it as much as I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: hate like the lengthening shortening of the lineup, that's nine batters.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: No matter what this does, kind of you're gonna have
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to move a bat from the middle to the top,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and I feel like you were going to feel the
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: impact of that.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure, for sure. And you know, like I said,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: tomorrow is opening day. Dodgers as of now are slated
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: to have Blake snow on the mound. So with some
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of this lefty line of stuff, we're gonna get a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: really early answer about and and what that what that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: all entails? And you know AJ's explanations afterward. I can't
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: wait to talk about it. By the way, we have
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: an episode that publishes either the night of or early
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: morning or depending on how late everything goes. We're still
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: picking that out, but we will react to it as well.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: So I just want to put that out there for everybody.
• 23:14
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, sometimes you just gotta do the simplest thing.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Vakam's razor, you's got to do the simplest thing, Cody.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And if we're going to talk about a player that
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: we can't wait to watch that we're gonna put a
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: spotlight on, I think it should be Trek Scooble.
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  Speaker 3: Ok.
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  Speaker 1: Trek Scooble is going to be the leading man for
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: this organization this season with a cy Young to his
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: credit and as of right now, the favorite to win
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the cy Young again. And we've had him on the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: pod was he was great to us. He's been a
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: great ambassador for this organization, and to have him all
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: those things that you're kind of nervous about with like
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: being on ESPN and like, you know, kind of putting
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: your best foot forward. Might not be able to do
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: that in center field regardless of who they put there, but
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: they are going to do that on the mound with
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Trek scoogl and and I can't wait to watch him,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you know, do his thing this year.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Yes we've said this before, but schoogle has reached kind
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: of the territory of just being so good so consistently
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: it's hard to say new things about him. But I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: do have a feature up on Schooble in advanced of
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: opening day on the Athletic. Hope you guys will check
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: it out. I had a really good talk with Terrek.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I have come to love talking to him kind of
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: about you know, what's next for him, once you achieve
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the cy Young, then what and if your goal is greatness,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: how do you get yourself to that plane? I thought
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Terrek had some really good quotes in this story. One
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: thing I came back to when we had him on
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: this show was asking him, you want a cy Young,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: how do you keep the underdog mentality? And at the
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: time he kind of rejected the premise of like having
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: an underdog mentality, which almost surprised me. Like, we all
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: know the story ninth round pick one, Division one offer
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: from a small town in Arizona in theory the definition
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: of an underdog, but check out this Schoogle quote. I
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: just think there's a slight difference in the mentality of
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: being an underdog versus just being a dog. Like it's
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: kind of quintessential Arrk Schoogl right there. He's basically saying
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: an underdog is like this lovable loser. You're just happy
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: to be there if you get lucky and someone on
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: as shucks, that's cool, And like, that's not Tarek Scougle.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: He has the utmost believing himself. He expects to win,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: He's driven to win. That's the whole point in this
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: talked again like the fact this guy went out of
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: his way to go face the Orioles two hours from
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Lakeland's when he could have stayed that day and pitched
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: at home still kind of blows my mind. And then
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: just talking to him, like in a way, how far
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: he's come, in a way, how where he is of
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the work that's ahead. In college, this guy would go
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to Mariners games and he would watch Felix Hernandez, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: then a couple of years later, he faces Felix in
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: spring training. Felix was one. He's trying to make the Orioles.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: He didn't make it. He's like, man, Felix had a
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: short career. And then Trek Scugle does what we would do,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: goes and pulls up the baseball reference page and he's like,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: oh damn, this guy is incredible for seven years, you know.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And so he's like, I've had what two and a
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: half good seasons. I gotta have five more to even
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: get remotely in this conversation. There's more in that story,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: really good look into the mindset Terrek is bringing into
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: this year. I think that's a big component of what's
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: got him here. This dude is the ultimate competitor, but
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: somehow does it in a way where he doesn't like
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: crush himself with the expectations which guys can do. He's
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: like the son of a coach. And I guess that
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: probably says it all because you see it in his mentality,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: in his mindset and his quotes, and he's gotten really
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: good at, I think, expressing himself and conveying what's going
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: on in his head. He uh.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone was happier when the schedule came
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: out than Terror schoolble to be like, oh, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: got the defending champs. You know, opening day, you know,
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Cody, I think it's time for one of
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: our tried and true traditions on this podcast, and that
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: is bold prediction time, Bold prediction season. This is something
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that I take the proper amount of seriousness while also
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I'm fun. I think that's what I think, that's what
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: it's all about.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Some in the past, I believe I was a year
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: too early on on schoolbl being an All Star. That
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: was my prediction two years ago or three years ago,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: something like that. I was a little early there. I
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: predicted Hoavier by As would have a twenty twenty season
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that did that did not work out. But that's okay,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: that's what these things are for.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: So you can run that one back. You want to
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: run that hobby in center field twenty twenty season like
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: that would be bold.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: That would be that would be bold. That would be bold.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm I have two kind of Cody, and I
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: think we can kind of hash out the bold levels
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: of them. One, you know, speaking of school, is he
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: wins the cy Young for a second consecutive season. Oh okay, whatever,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you just talked about how he was the odds on
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: favorite that is true. However, an American League pitcher has
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: not won back to back cy Young's since Pedro Martinez
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine two thousand. It's happened in the National
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: League with old friend Max Schurzer. I believe those are
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the only two examples of the century in general, Roger Clemens,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Jim Palmer, Danny McLain like that. That's that's just about
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the list. I might be missing one person. That's just
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: about the list of back to backside young winners. So
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: it's very rare. So I think that is a semi
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: bold prediction. However, I wanted to go a little bit
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: more bolder than that. So I was thinking, how the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Tiger's gonna win games with like this lineup, you know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: being like a little little hurt right now. Maybe it's
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: time that they have some power to win games, like,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you know, not the manufacturing runs and and like what
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: if they just kind of lean into the power element
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit, try to try to steal some games
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and rely on pitching and defense in spots. How about
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: twenty how's twenty home runs sound? I think the Tigers
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: are gonna have five twenty home run hitters. So they
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: did this in twenty sixteen. By the way, that was
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Miguel Cabrera, Justin Upton, Ian Kinsler, Victor Martinez and j D. Martinez.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: You look at the lineup now, Ridley Green feel pretty
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: good about it. Did twenty four last year. Carret Carpenter,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: you know that's in there. Labor Torres, you know that's
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: in there. That's three about What about Torque torqu gets
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the bats.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: To get twenty home runs in tor What about Cole
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Keith Cole Keith Good who hit who had his first
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: career home run last season on May twenty fourth, and
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: it finished the season with thirteen.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: He's a year older, more mature physically, not playing the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: rigorous position of second base. Could happen. Jake Rodgers done
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it before, Justin Henry Malloy. It's got some natural power
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: in there. So I named more than five guys I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: think it could happen. I think I think it. It
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: might need to happen. Five guys. Cody hit twenty or
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: more home runs for the Tigers this year. That's my
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: bold prediction.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I like that. I think that would be a very
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: good year for the Tigers because that implies your big
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: dogs in the lineup are healthy number one, and then
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: number two. It implies someone maybe a Tork, maybe a
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: j Hen, maybe a Jake Roger, someone who you're not
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: necessarily banking on, has a very good year, not out
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: of the realm of possibility. I like it as a
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: bold prediction. The Tigers are kind of ruining all my
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: bold predictions, because I think one was gonna be that
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: like Casey Mai starts pitching the ninth inning, which historically
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Michael Folmer Boberski had a great track record with with that,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: but then he was too good in the springing and
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: he he wrote he won a rotation spot, and I'm
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: kind of drinking the Casey Mice school aid a little bit.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I don't. I could still see a chaos option, or
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: maybe if somehow everyone's healthy an ox cop gets back.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I could still kind of see it late in the year,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: just not even because he's done poorly as a start,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I could see it, but I could also see him
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: having a great year's starter. My other prediction was going
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to be that Jayhen finished third on the team in homers,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: But now I don't even know if they're going to
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: take this guy on the roster, so I don't know
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: if I can be comfortable doing this one. So I
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe maybe I got nothing. I think Cole
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Keith will hit a home run before May twenty fourth.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Does that count as a bold? Does that count as
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: a bold prediction? Now?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: If you get give me a date for his first
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: home run, that would be bold.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Seattle game, game one in Seattle.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: All right, that's one in Seattle, Monday, the thirty first,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I believe, right?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Is that correct? I got my date. I don't know
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: what date is. It's the season even started. I'm I'm
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: way off on that. I I'm sorried about Trey Sweeney.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I think Trey Sweeney will be demoted at some point.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I know that is not a happy prediction, but I
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: kind of I kind of that coming on. I'm gonna
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: stick by Jahn. I don't know if I think Jayhin
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: hits twenty plus homers? There there, there you go.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Neither one of us chose Jackson Job to win Rookie
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: of the Year.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I'm meant to address that. I don't know if you
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: guys saw we had. We did some predictions on the
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: athletic and I chose school to win Syong and Job
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: to win Rookie of the Year full disclosure. I put
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: both of those and I was like, what are the
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: chances both of these things actually happened? And I was
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  Speaker 2: going to change one of them, and I couldn't decide
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: which one to change, and then I forgot about it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: So that's why that's why it was not even homersm.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: It was just man, I think if job gets the innings,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard for him to not win it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: But I'm also just like schools schoobls to in his words,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: a dog, like winning the cy Young is really hard.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: But who's gonna on see them? Maybe Crochet that's probably
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: your most likely candidate, uh de Gram if he's held.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: The guy knows if he's healthy. Cole Reagan's is really good.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I could just see a little more variability in jerks performance,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: and like some hitter Christian Campbell, Roman Anthony, when he
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: gets up, maybe a hitter is able to unseat him.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: So in a way, I'm still pretty sold on Scooba
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: winning a second sy Young. I guess I guess maybe
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that can be a bold prediction.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, well you're gonna have You're gonna
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: have someone health permitting that's gonna be up there at
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: least up there at least for Cy Young Award. You
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: would think you're gonna have a guy who's gonna be
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: up there for Rookie of the Year. Two that's two
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of your five starting rotations. And if you can have
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: if Riley Green can replicate an all star season, and
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: if you know Carrie Carpenter stays, you know, his off
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: season regiment to alleviate his back from last year, you know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: worked all of a sudden. Now now you can see
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: why Jeff Passon said today on Foul Territory like the Tiger,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: he has the Tigers winning the Vision, I made the playoffs,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: winning the division.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, those were some of this stuff that's been
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: crazy because we spent thirty minutes just being like, what
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: is this team doing? And then it's like, no, they
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: like if they have the Cy Young, the Rookie of
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: the Year and five guys who at twenty homers, they're
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: gonna go to the playoffs. There's your I don't know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: so I don't so I don't think all those things.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Is to bring back the old question
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: from last year, is this team good? I leave spring
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: training like Jeff Passon. I think this team can really pitch. Yeah,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I think the pitching is legit, and I think it's
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: deep enough to withstand whatever injuries may come its way. Offensively,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have a lot of faith in
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: this team. So I think this is gonna be a
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: lot like last year, hopefully a little more even, but
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: like eighty two, eighty three, eighty four, eighty five, eighty
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: six wins, you know, and the difference between eighty three
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: and eighty six could be the difference between playoffs and
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: not playoffs. I'm not sure they can win the division.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I think that's gonna take eighty nine ninety wins. That's
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: gonna count on all those things we just listed, going right,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: going right, Well, event to have a centerfielder.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta have somebody that can track down balls over there. Uh.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: This team kind of reminds me of the Dan Campbell
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: hard knock speech where he's talking about you just gotta
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: bring him, bring them into the water and just hold
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: hold them down long enough to drown them.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: That's that's kind of good, you know what I mean.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: That's what it's gonna be like every single game.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe, Yeah, Like that's that's that's probably what it's gonna
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: have to take. It's just like hang around, hang around,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: hang around, hang around, find your moment. Now obviously they
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: didn't do that last year. They had to play catch up.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: But if you can hang around, hang around, hang around.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: And the division that you know is interesting but not
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: overly deep with high level talent, like every the the
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: every other team except for the White Sox is saying
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the same thing, you know, And that's visually so like
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: and and there's there's some beauty in that. I would say,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: But man I I can't I can't wait. I can't
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: wait to be able to talk about something tangible with you,
• 39:13
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• 39:24
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• 39:27
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• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a Jackson here after some of these games, like
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: you're hopefully gonna join us after the opener. I hope
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: that works out. And hearing him just chop up what's
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: actually happening in the game I'm excited about.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely cannot wait for all of that. So
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: the next time that we are talking with these mics
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: looking through these cameras, the Tigers will have an actual
• 39:50
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• 39:52
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• 40:01
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• 40:05
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