Latest / The Mental Healness Podcast / Narcissists love people pleasers
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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful people Today we're talking about
- 0:03the person that narcissists seem to attract the most people.
- 0:07Blazers. I know nobody.
- 0:10Look, that body hit some of y'all right there did it.
- 0:12If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:13I am a clinically diagnosed narcissist and welcome to
- 0:15another episode of the Narcissist Code.
- 0:35So welcome back folks, welcome back, welcome back, welcome
- 0:37back. Yes people pleasers y'all?
- 0:40So y'all if y'all don't know, I read a lot of books right?
- 0:43To help improve my own, like my mental health, help increase my
- 0:47knowledge base and whatnot. I actually wrote a book too.
- 0:50Remember, it's not your fault. It's a kids book that's
- 0:53available on Amazon. It's a conversation starter for
- 0:56your kids, your young kids, 10 and under to talk about toxic
- 0:59relationships, narcissistic family systems, telling the
- 1:02truth, being honest, loving yourself and things like that.
- 1:05Scott, remember, it's not your fault.
- 1:06It is on Amazon. Link is in the bio in the
- 1:09description everywhere. But yes, also I'm reading a book
- 1:14myself, reading a book by Jackson McKenzie called I came
- 1:19thinking the name of the book. My mind just literally went
- 1:21blank just now. Y'all, I can't be whole again by
- 1:24Jackson McKenzie. This is what it looks like on on
- 1:26audible whole again. He was talking about how
- 1:29narcissist the relationship between narcissists and people
- 1:32pleasers. And I was like, Dang, you know
- 1:33what, that makes a lot of Dang on sense because narcissistic
- 1:38people, although you can't like you can't tell somebody the
- 1:41people pleasers like by their by looking at them, right?
- 1:43You have to get to know them a little bit.
- 1:45You can't just like I can tell about those, those those dancing
- 1:50clogs you got on, but you're a people pleaser.
- 1:53Like, you know, tap dancing shoes.
- 1:56You're a people pleaser, right? You dance to the side, you dance
- 1:59to the beating somebody else's drum.
- 2:01I can tell. No, it does.
- 2:02It doesn't work that way, y'all? They have to get to know you a
- 2:05little bit. And narcissistic people tend to
- 2:08kind of, for lack of a better word, look up and find people
- 2:12pleasing because that's the type of person that narciss that ends
- 2:15up with a narcissist a lot y'all.
- 2:17And people pleasing can be a reaction from your childhood,
- 2:19right? You just trying to like this.
- 2:21It's a survival mechanism, right?
- 2:23If you've been described as a people pleaser or you are a
- 2:26self-proclaimed people pleaser or a codependent person, right,
- 2:29you've been, you know, I mean, it might be the survival
- 2:33mechanism that you might have had to learn how to be a people
- 2:36pleaser to your parents in order to survive, right?
- 2:39You might like, in order to not get chastised or abused or
- 2:42whatever, you might have had to learn how to survive by people
- 2:45pleasing by just doing things that other people want, right?
- 2:49That's, that happens quite a bit.
- 2:50So I would say this like, if you're a people pleaser, you
- 2:53might end up with a narcissist and narcissist and narcissists
- 2:58absolutely love people pleases y'all?
- 3:01Because narcissistic people are all about validation, getting
- 3:04validation from other people. That's why it's typically
- 3:08referred to as narcissistic supply.
- 3:10It's how a lot of narcissists survive, right?
- 3:13It's how a lot of us, you know, get up in the morning and keep,
- 3:16keep it moving and things of that nature, right?
- 3:18That's how a lot of narcissists just make, make, make do, for
- 3:21lack of a better word. That's how narcissists make do.
- 3:25And that happens quite a bit. So people pleasers like I guess
- 3:29you get from what Jackson McKenzie was saying, people
- 3:32pleasers kind of get their feel from making other people happy,
- 3:35from validating other people. So it's like the a match made
- 3:38and a match made and narcissistic relationship haven
- 3:42or hell, whatever you want to call it.
- 3:43I want to say heaven, but that's the way it goes is like if you
- 3:46are here, you get validation from pleasing other people and
- 3:50narcissists get validation from other people pleasing them.
- 3:53You see how that can be an extremely, you know, it can
- 3:57start off good. It starts off as a, you know,
- 4:00the high, it starts off as a high, super high narcissist.
- 4:03Like I love it. Like you're pleasing me.
- 4:05I'm getting the validation because I'm getting that
- 4:07validation from you. I'm giving it back to you.
- 4:10Like you're making me feel good about myself, that I need to
- 4:12make you feel good about yourself, right?
- 4:14Like you're making me feel so wonderful, so internally good
- 4:17about myself that I have to reciprocate.
- 4:20I have to make you feel good about yourself, right?
- 4:22We're, we're balancing each other out.
- 4:24So we're doing this, I'm doing it, I'm doing this like I'm
- 4:27trying to make you feel good because I feel good, right?
- 4:31But it runs out when, when that narcissistic person, like when
- 4:34they fall out of love with you, right?
- 4:36When they, when they, when that, that I call it a light switch,
- 4:40when that light switch goes off and they stop loving you and
- 4:44stop giving you the validation that you're pleasing them.
- 4:48It it can change you if you're a people pleaser, it can change
- 4:51you because now you pleasing them, you validating them
- 4:54doesn't work. The narcissist doesn't get the
- 4:57same amount of narcissistic supply or the same type of
- 5:00narcissistic supply that they originally got from you.
- 5:04So now they're like, so now they're treating you differently
- 5:07and now you as a people pleaser. You might be trying different
- 5:10things to make them happy. You go above and beyond to try
- 5:14to make them happy and a narcissistic person, they thrive
- 5:16on you going above and beyond. But when you are dealing with a
- 5:19narcissist, and this is speaking for a lot of narcissists, not
- 5:22every single narcissist, but when you deal with a narcissist,
- 5:25no matter what you do, y'all to try to please that person, it
- 5:28just won't be enough, right? It just it just really won't be
- 5:33enough in that type of situation right there.
- 5:36Like narcissistic people tend to do things like that.
- 5:40They tend to like thrive when people are when people are going
- 5:44above people are going above and beyond to deal with them.
- 5:48They tend to thrive on that. Y'all, they love it.
- 5:51They absolutely love it. So that's why I'm just telling
- 5:54you like, if you're a people pleaser, you got to, you got to
- 5:58roll it in. That's why I tell people if you
- 6:01feel like you're a people pleaser and you're in a touchy
- 6:03relationship, it's hard. Like the harder you try to make
- 6:06that person happy, the more you will lose yourself.
- 6:09The more you lose yourself and the crazy about it is, the
- 6:11harder you try to make a narcissist happy, the more you
- 6:15will lose yourself, right? And the more you lose yourself,
- 6:19the more you start to act differently, the less they care
- 6:22about you. So it's a vicious cycle.
- 6:24The harder you try, the further you push away from you get
- 6:27pushed away from them. Can you make them happy and
- 6:30validate them in spurts? Yes you can.
- 6:33Even after the love bombing phase ends, you can make them
- 6:36happy and validate them in spurts, but it still will go
- 6:39back to them withdrawing the love from you.
- 6:43It still will go back to that right there because they won't
- 6:45look. They don't look at you the same
- 6:47anymore. Even when I tell people that,
- 6:50when I tell people that it does hurt their feelings, it really
- 6:53does. And it's understandable that it
- 6:55does. And that's why I tell people
- 6:56it's like this is going to be hard to hurt yourself when you
- 6:58hear me say this type of stuff. But like the harder you try, the
- 7:01further you push them away. And I know it sounds, it sounds
- 7:06backwards, like believe that doesn't make any sense.
- 7:08Like the harder we try, the further they get away.
- 7:10Yes, because you're trying so hard that they just like they
- 7:15feel like that now, they don't recognize you even more, even
- 7:18from the beginning, like you trying so hard, you doing
- 7:21whatever it takes, and it's just not enough.
- 7:23And that can drive you crazy. That can make you feel, yeah,
- 7:26I'm just telling you, I've seen this happen in real life.
- 7:28Like that can drive you crazy when you're trying hard as hell
- 7:32to get somebody to love you, to get somebody to validate you, to
- 7:35get somebody to just say, hey, look, I see.
- 7:37I see all the hard work you're doing and it's super
- 7:40appreciated. I appreciate every single thing
- 7:42you're doing for me. I appreciate the love that
- 7:43you're showing to me. I appreciate appreciate the
- 7:45effort you're putting into this relationship.
- 7:47I appreciate every single bit of you.
- 7:48You want that. They're not going to give it to
- 7:51you. And this is not be trying to say
- 7:53leaders, leaders wants everybody to throw their relationship
- 7:55away. Look, I'm not telling you to
- 7:56throw your relationship away. I'm just telling you this.
- 7:59As good as it's going to get, it's already got.
- 8:01It's already gotten as good as it's going to get because it
- 8:05doesn't, it typically doesn't get better in a relationship
- 8:09with a narcissist because like it, it just does.
- 8:12It just doesn't go back to the beginning.
- 8:14It never will go back to the same it used to be.
- 8:16So if you can accept how things are now because they like it
- 8:20does, it doesn't go back to the same because they don't go get
- 8:23the help that they need. They don't go get the help.
- 8:25They don't work on themselves. They don't like go above and
- 8:28like and they just, they just flounder.
- 8:32And I know when I tell people that narcissist, if they don't
- 8:34go get help, this, this is how they'll be.
- 8:36It makes some people sad. It makes some people, some
- 8:39people pleasers want to try harder.
- 8:41It's like, I just need to try a little bit harder.
- 8:42All right, look, it's your life. You get one of them to live.
- 8:47By all means, if you want to try as hard as you can to please
- 8:49this person that's damn near unpleasable, By all means,
- 8:52you're going to wake up one day, four years, one year down the
- 8:55road, two, 5-10 years down the road 2025 and realize you're
- 8:59like, damn, I don't get this person 25 years in my life and
- 9:04they don't even appreciate nothing I've done for them.
- 9:07They don't even acknowledge it anymore.
- 9:08They just because this is the thing about narcissists, they
- 9:11feel like at first, the stuff that you do, they super
- 9:14appreciate it. They're grateful for it, they
- 9:15love it. They get the narcissistic
- 9:17supply. But after a while, when the love
- 9:19bombing phase ends, they just look at it as stuff that you're
- 9:22supposed to do. It's no longer a special, it's
- 9:24no longer a different, it's no longer the narcissistic supply.
- 9:28That was just like, you know, just regular fuel.
- 9:31It's just like you're supposed you're, you're my husband,
- 9:33you're supposed to congratulate me.
- 9:34You're my wife. You're supposed to say this to
- 9:36me. You're my mom, you're my dad,
- 9:38you're my, my sibling, whoever it is, you're supposed to say
- 9:41this stuff to me. You're supposed to do this stuff
- 9:44to me. That's where you that's where
- 9:46you get the entitled narcissist that comes into play right here,
- 9:48right? You get the narcissist that's
- 9:50extremely entitled and how they do and how they act and how they
- 9:54behave and the and the stuff that they're going to keep doing
- 9:57and are you can, can you handle that?
- 9:58Can you deal with that? Hey, I'm not saying that you
- 10:00can't, but I'm just telling you in the mind of a narcissist,
- 10:03this is the type of stuff that you're going to be dealing with.
- 10:05This is the type of stuff you're going to be putting up with for
- 10:06the rest of your existence. As long as this relationship is
- 10:09continue to move forward. Again, this is not me just
- 10:12trying to say, get away, get away.
- 10:14This is me trying to say like, if you don't work on your people
- 10:16pleasing and just just beat it, go to therapy or read some books
- 10:20and turn down that knob a little bit, you're going to just, I'm
- 10:24just, I'm just telling you, I've seen so many people, I've seen
- 10:27it hurt in people's faces. I've hugged people that have
- 10:30been in some of my workshops in the past that have been crying.
- 10:33Just feel like they wasted so much time.
- 10:35But now they've they've gotten out of it.
- 10:36They're free now. I'm not telling you to leave.
- 10:39I'm telling you to get free, whatever free looks like to you,
- 10:42because sometimes freedom can be just emotional freedom.
- 10:44You feel like you don't have to try to please this person.
- 10:47If you're not going to appreciate what I do for you,
- 10:49I'm just not going to do it anymore.
- 10:52If you're not going to appreciate me going above and
- 10:53beyond, making you breakfast, dinner, we both working, right?
- 10:57We both work. We both take care of the kids.
- 10:59I mean, we're both working. It's a 5050 household, right?
- 11:02But you don't appreciate me making you breakfast, dinner,
- 11:04lunch, getting you all the stuff ready, going above and beyond,
- 11:06getting up early in the morning, doing all this other stuff.
- 11:09Stop doing it. Hey, I noticed you haven't
- 11:11making me breakfast in the last few mornings.
- 11:13Is something going on? What's wrong with you?
- 11:15What the hell is going on with you?
- 11:19Does this sound like the type of person that appreciates what you
- 11:21do for him? It doesn't sound like it to me.
- 11:24But anyway, y'all, thank you all for tuning into another episode.
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