Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 1-05-26 Hour 1 - Broncos lock up AFC's 1 seed/Landeskog injured in Avs loss/"Unprofessional" Nuggets
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
- 0:05Speaker 1: every weekday morning from seven to ten on Altitude Sports
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- 0:18Speaker 2: Here's the Horn in Brooklyn, Denver gets Christian Brown and
- 0:24Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon back, but it was a non factor. Denver
- 0:29Speaker 2: loses tonight to the Brooklyn Nets one twenty seven to
- 0:33Speaker 2: one point fifteen in Denver, now one and four on
- 0:38Speaker 2: the season high seven game.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Road trip, kin and can't win it. Foresley has it
- 0:44Speaker 3: and the Colorado Avalanche suffer only their third regulation loss
- 0:48Speaker 3: of the season. They have all come on the road,
- 0:52Speaker 3: and all come against the Eastern Conference at Boston, at
- 0:55Speaker 3: the New York Islanders, and now at the Florida Panthers.
- 1:00Speaker 4: Lance from the pocket gets picked off off the deflection
- 1:03Speaker 4: and here we go with the run back inside the twenty.
- 1:07Speaker 5: Mc mellan is not for the touchdown.
- 1:10Speaker 4: Great performance by this defense direct well, last nap.
- 1:13Speaker 6: It is over one a season for the Denver Broncos.
- 1:17Speaker 5: They're the number one seed of the AFC. All right,
- 1:20Speaker 5: lot to get to rally House Football Monday this morning.
- 1:23Speaker 7: The Broncos of the number one seed in the AFC,
- 1:26Speaker 7: which does mean one thing.
- 1:27Speaker 5: Boys, it's Mosy's week.
- 1:34Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:35Speaker 7: With that win, if nothing else, guys, with that win,
- 1:40Speaker 7: the Denver Broncos have let our awards show happen this
- 1:44Speaker 7: week as opposed to March.
- 1:47Speaker 5: Yeah. So here's the deal. A lot to get to Abs, Nuggets,
- 1:52Speaker 5: all of that stuff.
- 1:53Speaker 7: We'll put that to the side for a second, because
- 1:55Speaker 7: the Broncos have done something they haven't done in a
- 1:57Speaker 7: long time, a decade, which is not just when the division,
- 2:00Speaker 7: but you're the number one seed in the entire conference,
- 2:02Speaker 7: you're automatically automatically in the divisional round. I have done
- 2:06Speaker 7: this a lot of times this season. I've come in
- 2:09Speaker 7: here on a Monday after Bronco has won and been like, yeah,
- 2:11Speaker 7: but what the hell was that? To be honest, don't
- 2:13Speaker 7: really care. The goal of that game yesterday was get
- 2:16Speaker 7: the win and come out healthy.
- 2:18Speaker 5: Check check.
- 2:18Speaker 7: Garrett Boll scared the hell out of me for a second,
- 2:21Speaker 7: really nervous about that one went back in the game,
- 2:23Speaker 7: So that seems to be all good. I know a
- 2:26Speaker 7: lot of people didn't like the offense, but are you
- 2:28Speaker 7: guys with me? Who really cares? This is what we've
- 2:30Speaker 7: seen all year?
- 2:31Speaker 4: Well, I think the game was devalued at the last
- 2:34Speaker 4: two games. To be honest with you, I think the
- 2:36Speaker 4: Chargers are responsible for making the game what it was too.
- 2:40Speaker 4: I think when the Chargers decided they're not gonna play,
- 2:43Speaker 4: it turns into an exhibition game and both coaches are like,
- 2:46Speaker 4: let's just survive. I really believe that was part of
- 2:48Speaker 4: the problem.
- 2:50Speaker 6: Mos.
- 2:51Speaker 7: Did you have the same feeling I did despite the
- 2:53Speaker 7: offense not doing much all day? Jaqwan McMillan takes the
- 2:56Speaker 7: pick six back, You're like, Okay, so the game's over.
- 2:58Speaker 4: Cool.
- 2:58Speaker 6: Yeah, well of course I did. I mean I thought
- 3:02Speaker 6: to myself, all right, it's over at that point because
- 3:04Speaker 6: the Chargers are not going to I already told you
- 3:05Speaker 6: the Chargers are not going to score ten points in
- 3:07Speaker 6: this game. But if anybody sits here on this Monday
- 3:11Speaker 6: morning and you look, it's almost like you're whistling by
- 3:18Speaker 6: the graveyard cater, I don't care. I don't care, I
- 3:21Speaker 6: don't Kevin the offense, I don't ken the doubles, the
- 3:26Speaker 6: division or It's true what you're doing. You're trying to
- 3:30Speaker 6: convince yourself that everything's gonna be okay.
- 3:32Speaker 5: No, no, nobody's signed that, I promise you motion.
- 3:34Speaker 7: I'm not, by the way, some breaking news here because
- 3:36Speaker 7: it is Black Monday in the nfl Raheem Morris has
- 3:38Speaker 7: already been fired in Atlanta, and right now breaking Kevin
- 3:41Speaker 7: Stefanski has been fired in Cleveland, so he is out.
- 3:44Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, all right, We're gonna have a busy session
- 3:49Speaker 4: with Chefty today. He's gonna be on his phone a lot.
- 3:51Speaker 4: What time is Chefty?
- 3:51Speaker 8: You know?
- 3:52Speaker 6: With this?
- 3:52Speaker 5: Uh should be nine o'clock this morning, correct, Nelly, yep.
- 3:55Speaker 4: I will let you know if anything changes.
- 3:57Speaker 6: Why is Vick so loud in my ear? I feel
- 3:59Speaker 6: like he's yelling in my face.
- 4:01Speaker 4: Why don't you light up your rooms so you can
- 4:03Speaker 4: see your face?
- 4:04Speaker 8: You know?
- 4:04Speaker 6: Why don't you smother your face on that microphone? A little? Wat? Great? Great?
- 4:09Speaker 6: I am great.
- 4:10Speaker 7: Uh listen cool, Carl Mos you can This isn't me
- 4:15Speaker 7: convincing myself of anything. It's it's recognizing what's been the
- 4:18Speaker 7: reality since the first week of the season. Here's what's funny.
- 4:23Speaker 7: There's no convincing yourself of anything with the Broncos. They've
- 4:26Speaker 7: been the exact same thing for seventeen consecutive weeks, almost unchanging.
- 4:32Speaker 7: I guess the offense has gotten slightly better as the
- 4:35Speaker 7: season's gone on, but not much. The team that we
- 4:37Speaker 7: saw against the Tennessee Titans the first week of the
- 4:39Speaker 7: year feels like the exact same team we see right.
- 4:42Speaker 4: Now, except the fourteen three.
- 4:43Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, exactly, though they win ugly. Okay, that's what
- 4:48Speaker 7: the tenement.
- 4:49Speaker 6: And I'm gonna say this. This team playing football the
- 4:53Speaker 6: way they are right now, they're gonna win the Super
- 4:56Speaker 6: Bowl playing ugly football, no problem.
- 5:01Speaker 5: Wait say that again.
- 5:03Speaker 6: What you just said they are going to win the
- 5:05Speaker 6: Super Bowl? They are. I just said the way they're
- 5:08Speaker 6: playing right now, they are going to win the Super
- 5:10Speaker 6: Bowl playing ugly football, no problem.
- 5:14Speaker 5: I don't know if this is sarcasm.
- 5:15Speaker 7: Most here's what I would tell you they might. I
- 5:20Speaker 7: said this during the appetizer, and I mean this with
- 5:22Speaker 7: all sincerity. If I had to put my mortgage on
- 5:25Speaker 7: a football team to win the Super Bowl, I would
- 5:27Speaker 7: not put it on the Broncos. But I also think
- 5:29Speaker 7: that they got as good a shot as anybody.
- 5:31Speaker 4: I wouldn't put it on anybody.
- 5:33Speaker 7: Like if you had to right now, if I just
- 5:35Speaker 7: ask you guys this question, your entire life savings has
- 5:38Speaker 7: to go on a football team to win.
- 5:40Speaker 4: I wouldn't do it. You have too wild you have to.
- 5:42Speaker 4: It's like a wildcatter pick a team.
- 5:44Speaker 6: But what you're see here's what I don't like what
- 5:47Speaker 6: you're doing. I don't like you excusing away four field
- 5:53Speaker 6: goals like saying, well, that's the that's that's how the
- 5:57Speaker 6: way the Chargers wanted to play. That's who the Broncos are.
- 6:01Speaker 6: Don't excuse me, don't excuse away a performance when they
- 6:04Speaker 6: should be kicking major ass.
- 6:06Speaker 4: We agree, we agree.
- 6:07Speaker 6: That wasn't No, you don't agree, you don't agree.
- 6:11Speaker 4: The game I was at. The game was very boring.
- 6:14Speaker 4: It was very vanilla.
- 6:16Speaker 6: Okay, what do the Patriots do to the Dolphins?
- 6:19Speaker 4: Mos?
- 6:21Speaker 6: I agree with you.
- 6:22Speaker 4: He's asking you a question, though, and the question is valid.
- 6:26Speaker 4: It's a legit question. Anybody can win this thing. Anybody can.
- 6:31Speaker 4: There's one for Carolina and Pittsburgh. There's one concern, and
- 6:34Speaker 4: I have I mean, yeah, most Hey, Pittsburgh's offense was
- 6:38Speaker 4: pretty dynamic in that game. Would you take Pittsburgh Denver?
- 6:42Speaker 6: Vic? Honestly, I don't At this point, I don't know.
- 6:45Speaker 7: Oh, come on, Mos. If the Broncos first matchup is
- 6:50Speaker 7: the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- 6:51Speaker 6: I'm jumping for joy as am I. I'm telling you, dude,
- 6:57Speaker 6: you should do with the pete. Okay, listen to me.
- 7:00Speaker 6: You're right. They're the number one seed, They've got a bye.
- 7:04Speaker 6: This is incredible. The fairy god offense queen is gonna
- 7:08Speaker 6: come down from heaven above and gonna go puing. Here
- 7:11Speaker 6: comes thirty eight points. That's what she's gonna do. You know,
- 7:14Speaker 6: during the most, because you should do what the Patriots did.
- 7:19Speaker 6: They beat the snut out of the Dolphins. The Bills
- 7:21Speaker 6: beat the snut out of the crap Jets. That's what
- 7:23Speaker 6: you should do that the Chargers. Dude, name a human
- 7:27Speaker 6: being in the starting lineup that actually played football yesterday
- 7:30Speaker 6: for reading full snaps. I mean, come on, Gen and Allen, Okay,
- 7:33Speaker 6: big deal. Most throwing the football.
- 7:36Speaker 4: I agree with you. It was not a very good performance,
- 7:40Speaker 4: but I think that was already done the moment the
- 7:44Speaker 4: Chargers decided not to play their studs. I really believe
- 7:49Speaker 4: that at that point the game was gonna be what
- 7:51Speaker 4: it was. I expected this.
- 7:52Speaker 5: Not to mention. I mean, you watched it.
- 7:56Speaker 7: It didn't feel like Sean Payton was really pulling out
- 7:58Speaker 7: all the stops on offense either.
- 8:00Speaker 5: That really felt like a get me through game.
- 8:02Speaker 7: That's the entire vibe of that was, just get the
- 8:05Speaker 7: win and leave healthy. You know what, I think that
- 8:08Speaker 7: the Broncos look a lot like and would look even
- 8:11Speaker 7: more like if JK. Dobbins is healthy, which he I guess.
- 8:15Speaker 7: I think I saw from Zack Stevens yesterday. He said
- 8:17Speaker 7: something to a fan before the game. They said, well,
- 8:19Speaker 7: you'll be back for the super Bowl and he goes sooner,
- 8:21Speaker 7: is what I said.
- 8:22Speaker 4: I told you this two months ago. Yeah, you got hurt,
- 8:25Speaker 4: I said, do not be surprised if he's.
- 8:27Speaker 7: Back sooner, if they get JK. Dobbins back for the
- 8:29Speaker 7: Divisional round. I think them and the Seahawks are very
- 8:32Speaker 7: very similar football teams. I really do, because I don't
- 8:35Speaker 7: quite trust Sam Donald and I don't think Sam Donald
- 8:38Speaker 7: is great. But dude, did you guys watch what that
- 8:41Speaker 7: defense did to the forty nine ers over the weekend?
- 8:43Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 8:44Speaker 7: Like mauld them and they they play their entire game
- 8:48Speaker 7: that's based off of I'm gonna play good defense and
- 8:51Speaker 7: run the football and hope my quarterback makes a couple
- 8:53Speaker 7: of throws during the game. That's their entire strategy, and
- 8:55Speaker 7: it feels a lot like Denver.
- 8:57Speaker 4: I have one chief concern regarding the Broncos, and you know,
- 9:01Speaker 4: perhaps yesterday they went, you know, the first drive, they
- 9:04Speaker 4: tried to run the ball the entire way. And what's
- 9:05Speaker 4: interesting about it is they gained seventy yards rushing on
- 9:09Speaker 4: that first drive just running the ball. Yeah, seventy one
- 9:12Speaker 4: yards with a minus three on the last carry, seventy
- 9:15Speaker 4: one yards.
- 9:16Speaker 6: Right.
- 9:17Speaker 4: Do you know that that is the most yards they've
- 9:19Speaker 4: ever gained on an opening drive of a game since
- 9:22Speaker 4: twenty eleven Tebow. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. For
- 9:26Speaker 4: the rest of the game. They only gained forty three yards, right,
- 9:31Speaker 4: So all their work was done in the open. I'm
- 9:33Speaker 4: a little concerned, not a little, a lot un till
- 9:35Speaker 4: they have to prove it to me with the offensive
- 9:37Speaker 4: line and the health because I thought they got shoved
- 9:40Speaker 4: around a few times yesterday.
- 9:41Speaker 7: Yeah, I really need Dobbins to come back. It's it's
- 9:47Speaker 7: very clearly their running game is not as good when
- 9:50Speaker 7: the second that he left the lineup so.
- 9:52Speaker 4: There running, but the running game only on a couple
- 9:55Speaker 4: spot occasions, has been good at all this season. It's
- 9:58Speaker 4: not been good.
- 9:59Speaker 5: There was a but there was a stretch.
- 10:02Speaker 6: Nah.
- 10:04Speaker 4: I mean, Dobbins has had some great runs, but you
- 10:06Speaker 4: can't say all the Broncos run game. See and I
- 10:10Speaker 4: mentioned this the difference between this version of the Broncos
- 10:13Speaker 4: and the one that won a Super Bowl in two
- 10:15Speaker 4: thousand and fifteen sixteen. That team could run the ball.
- 10:20Speaker 4: Do you remember CJ. Anderson running the ball?
- 10:22Speaker 7: But what I'm saying, Vic, they had at least a
- 10:25Speaker 7: seventy yard rusher in all the games that Dobbins was
- 10:28Speaker 7: in except for two before he got hurt, and that's
- 10:31Speaker 7: happened once. Since that's the difference.
- 10:33Speaker 6: Maybe maybe it's because this is a an unusual year.
- 10:40Speaker 6: Maybe it's because the field is wide open. Anything can happen,
- 10:45Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But you two jokers sitting
- 10:48Speaker 6: around here about a number one seed by week football
- 10:52Speaker 6: team with fourteen wins, you sure are making a lot
- 10:55Speaker 6: of well they kind of look like this, you could
- 10:58Speaker 6: when you should be touching yourselves with joy, when you
- 11:02Speaker 6: should be happy in.
- 11:03Speaker 7: A minute about the offense being bad this morning and
- 11:06Speaker 7: us like now.
- 11:08Speaker 6: Listen to me, you should be touching yourselves with joy
- 11:11Speaker 6: saying this team is bad ass, This team is gonna
- 11:14Speaker 6: rock and roll. Man, they're fourteen and three. Who's gonna
- 11:16Speaker 6: stop them? My point is that, hold on, nelly, you
- 11:22Speaker 6: guys are sure, I mean, just listen to yourselves, because
- 11:26Speaker 6: you're not talking like this is a fourteen, fourteen and
- 11:29Speaker 6: three number one seed by week team. You're not at
- 11:32Speaker 6: all and and and to me, that's like, golly, it
- 11:36Speaker 6: gives me a lot of trepidation.
- 11:38Speaker 4: They're flawed because nobody's disputing that most go back to sleep,
- 11:42Speaker 4: wake up, and start over.
- 11:43Speaker 5: In a second. Let me just say this, most.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Start over motion. I want you to start your day
- 11:47Speaker 4: over because I don't know what the hell you're drinking
- 11:48Speaker 4: or ea, no, no, no, but you're being very petty
- 11:51Speaker 4: and dumb. Nobody knows that this team is infallible. Nobody
- 11:54Speaker 4: thinks this team is gonna march on to the super Bowl.
- 11:57Speaker 4: Nobody thinks that you're stupid if you think that. But
- 11:59Speaker 4: we're just sitting here celebrating the fact that then they're
- 12:02Speaker 4: the number one seed for the ninth time they've got
- 12:05Speaker 4: home field, which is more times than any team in
- 12:08Speaker 4: AFC history. Mind you, there's nothing wrong with celebrating that. Nothing.
- 12:14Speaker 4: They're fourteen to three, They overcame a lot, that they're
- 12:17Speaker 4: at a place where nobody thought they'd be. It's okay,
- 12:20Speaker 4: it's okay to think they're fourteen to three and still
- 12:22Speaker 4: be worried about their playoff run.
- 12:24Speaker 6: It's okay, okay, okay. Then let's then let's not let's
- 12:28Speaker 6: not pretend that this team has some major problems and
- 12:32Speaker 6: that well Sean Payton's just holding back the offense because
- 12:35Speaker 6: he knows and no da da da da da dada,
- 12:37Speaker 6: just trying to get through the game. Man, they look
- 12:39Speaker 6: like crap if they if they defensively, obviously they did
- 12:43Speaker 6: what I thought they should do, and that's beat the
- 12:44Speaker 6: snot out of a Chargers team that has no offensive starters.
- 12:47Speaker 6: But man, I look at what the Patriots did. They
- 12:52Speaker 6: give a crap. I don't know. They hung thirty eight
- 12:54Speaker 6: on the Dolphins. The Bills hung thirty five on the Jets.
- 12:57Speaker 6: You know why because they came and they did. This
- 12:59Speaker 6: team just scraping through kicking field goals. I mean, it
- 13:03Speaker 6: doesn't bode will man. I just it makes me nervous
- 13:05Speaker 6: and it makes me angry because I think they should
- 13:07Speaker 6: have stomped these guys.
- 13:08Speaker 7: But here's my question, MOS again I'll go back to
- 13:11Speaker 7: something I said earlier.
- 13:12Speaker 6: No, I don't care how they get their brit as
- 13:13Speaker 6: long as they.
- 13:14Speaker 5: No, No, that's not my question.
- 13:16Speaker 7: They've looked the exact same for seventeen straight weeks. I'm
- 13:20Speaker 7: not surprised by what happened yesterday. I've seen it every
- 13:24Speaker 7: week all year, and.
- 13:26Speaker 6: Then they're one and done. Then they're won and done.
- 13:29Speaker 6: Here I'm here to tell you right now, if this,
- 13:31Speaker 6: if this team shows up in two weeks, they're done.
- 13:34Speaker 4: What if it's a team that beat Green Bay or
- 13:36Speaker 4: the team that beat Dallas though, That's the thing. I think,
- 13:38Speaker 4: that's what Powder's trying to tell you, is that perhaps
- 13:40Speaker 4: they're chameleon like and able to change that strips and
- 13:43Speaker 4: the team to put forty four on Dallas. You're right, yeah,
- 13:46Speaker 4: I mean maybe the team that when they're down late,
- 13:49Speaker 4: or maybe the team that just finds a way. I mean,
- 13:51Speaker 4: maybe maybe it's that team.
- 13:53Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I hope to god it is, because what
- 13:56Speaker 6: I saw yesterday did not encourage me.
- 13:59Speaker 7: Okay, but mos Philly is a playoff team, and Houston's
- 14:04Speaker 7: a playoff team, and Green Bay's a playoff team, and
- 14:07Speaker 7: they've played this style and beaten them. I don't think
- 14:11Speaker 7: that there's anything that says even if they play this
- 14:14Speaker 7: exact same style, they can't do that again. It doesn't
- 14:16Speaker 7: mean that I think. I don't know. It depends on
- 14:19Speaker 7: what matchup it is and you're playing against them whatever, Hey, Brady,
- 14:24Speaker 7: they might lose the first game of the postseason, or
- 14:27Speaker 7: they might win the entire damn thing.
- 14:28Speaker 5: Like this is what I'm telling you. Like, I feel
- 14:30Speaker 5: like every team is like this.
- 14:31Speaker 7: They have a very obvious flaw, and no team is
- 14:35Speaker 7: one that feels like they're head and shoulders above the other.
- 14:37Speaker 7: When I asked you earlier put your mortgage on a
- 14:40Speaker 7: team to win the Super Bowl, you couldn't give me
- 14:41Speaker 7: an answer because everybody feels this way.
- 14:44Speaker 6: I'm going by what I think is the biggest true
- 14:48Speaker 6: measuring stick of the late season. Jaguars came in here
- 14:51Speaker 6: and worked them. Okay, so they listen. I'm not saying
- 14:55Speaker 6: they can't go all the way, because I think they can,
- 14:57Speaker 6: but they better find They better freaking finds because what
- 15:01Speaker 6: I saw yesterday ain't gonna cut it. They're gonna be
- 15:03Speaker 6: one and done at home and be making excuses at
- 15:05Speaker 6: the podium.
- 15:06Speaker 4: Can I ask you this.
- 15:07Speaker 7: Would you rather a football team have a great defense
- 15:10Speaker 7: and bad offense or great offensive bad defense.
- 15:13Speaker 6: I'd rather have a great defense and bad offense.
- 15:15Speaker 4: Let me ask you this. Let me ask a better question,
- 15:18Speaker 4: because you're you're very snippy this morning, and and I
- 15:22Speaker 4: don't disagree with a lot of fans. By the way,
- 15:24Speaker 4: I was getting texts from season ticket holders. Fans were
- 15:27Speaker 4: booing yesterday at the stadium.
- 15:28Speaker 6: I was there.
- 15:29Speaker 4: Fans were booing, Fans were mad. Fans are like, what
- 15:33Speaker 4: is this? They know they have your same But when
- 15:36Speaker 4: you take a step back, let me ask you, Mosh,
- 15:38Speaker 4: would you rather have a team that's fourteen to three
- 15:41Speaker 4: with home field or a team that barely snuck into
- 15:44Speaker 4: the playoffs that the last couple of games, their offense
- 15:47Speaker 4: looked dynamic and they looked awesome. I would you rather have?
- 15:51Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what answer the question.
- 15:53Speaker 4: Don't don't start playing your games.
- 15:57Speaker 6: I'd rather be fourteen th three. But vic you right now,
- 16:00Speaker 6: But I'm telling you right now. If I can't believe
- 16:03Speaker 6: the Baltimore kicker missed that field.
- 16:05Speaker 5: Goal, I want a stupid end of that game.
- 16:08Speaker 6: If Baltimore listen, Let's say it's just week one, and
- 16:11Speaker 6: Baltimore's coming in here and you didn't have a bye,
- 16:13Speaker 6: You'd be scared to death of the Baltimore rate.
- 16:15Speaker 4: You'd be scared the death of Venue one. I mean, see,
- 16:17Speaker 4: that's where your argument is flawed. There's not a single
- 16:20Speaker 4: team out there that wouldn't scare me because the Broncos
- 16:23Speaker 4: play that style of football scary, that's what they do.
- 16:28Speaker 4: So as long as you're at peace with that, and
- 16:30Speaker 4: you have to come to peace with that, this is
- 16:33Speaker 4: not going to be you know what, you want to
- 16:39Speaker 4: go to the Louver and go see some great art
- 16:41Speaker 4: instead you had a first grade art class that I mean,
- 16:44Speaker 4: you got to understand what you're looking at here.
- 16:49Speaker 7: I'm very see this is where I'm so confused by
- 16:53Speaker 7: some textures this morning by Moser.
- 16:56Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 17:00Speaker 7: I don't know what you guys want. This team is
- 17:03Speaker 7: fourteen and three, they're the number one seed. I get
- 17:06Speaker 7: it that the offense has been bad, but people are
- 17:09Speaker 7: acting like surprised.
- 17:10Speaker 5: By what they saw yesterday.
- 17:11Speaker 6: Why a thing.
- 17:12Speaker 5: Surprised by this?
- 17:14Speaker 6: Then let me put it this way.
- 17:15Speaker 5: If this is your attitude, you should have had this
- 17:17Speaker 5: attitude every single Monday.
- 17:18Speaker 6: You're right, I should be as honest as I possibly
- 17:21Speaker 6: can be. And it's this. I don't know what I want.
- 17:26Speaker 6: That's obvious. But here's what I do know. I cannot
- 17:31Speaker 6: pretend that I feel good about this team. I can't.
- 17:34Speaker 6: I feel great about the defense. I cannot pretend I
- 17:36Speaker 6: feel good about the offense. I can't. I think that's
- 17:39Speaker 6: fair that that was crap yesterday. It was crap, and
- 17:42Speaker 6: you know it was crap. You're stuck on the three
- 17:44Speaker 6: yard line. You can't punch it in, You're continually stall.
- 17:48Speaker 6: You have to kick four field goals. Your only touch
- 17:50Speaker 6: comes off a pick six off running back's hands. I mean,
- 17:54Speaker 6: let's not pretend what we saw was was a number
- 17:56Speaker 6: one seed type of win, because nobody is pretending.
- 18:01Speaker 4: How many times do I have to stop you mid
- 18:05Speaker 4: sentence and tell you nobody is thinking that. Nobody saw
- 18:10Speaker 4: that game, and all of a sudden, it's boosted with confidence.
- 18:13Speaker 4: It didn't do anything, but I'm not surprised either.
- 18:17Speaker 5: Here's Sean Payton after the game.
- 18:18Speaker 8: By the way, Look, am I ever happy?
- 18:20Speaker 6: No?
- 18:22Speaker 9: All right?
- 18:22Speaker 6: But we shouldn't be as coaches.
- 18:25Speaker 8: I know fewer words have never been spoken.
- 18:27Speaker 4: Mark speak up because you're always here.
- 18:28Speaker 8: But you always never make eye contact, never have any questions,
- 18:31Speaker 8: but you have a let to right true, nervous fuck,
- 18:35Speaker 8: thank you, you're exactly right. So but I think that's
- 18:39Speaker 8: a good trait. There's some things when we watch that
- 18:42Speaker 8: film that will be like, ah.
- 18:45Speaker 5: Was he was that Kisler?
- 18:46Speaker 4: Yeah? Isla and uh Sean Payton mid press conference going
- 18:51Speaker 4: after each other a little bit?
- 18:52Speaker 7: Can I just to play the beginning of this again?
- 18:54Speaker 7: I think this sums up Sean Payton really well.
- 18:56Speaker 8: Look am I ever happy? No?
- 19:01Speaker 5: That is like perfect?
- 19:03Speaker 4: How did you find a sound bit of Mosure and
- 19:04Speaker 4: put it on your board? I'm surprised.
- 19:08Speaker 6: Listen.
- 19:08Speaker 4: I could counter you know, every every Mosure sound by
- 19:12Speaker 4: today and every texture. And I can't believe I'm playing
- 19:15Speaker 4: the ultimate optimist here, because you know, I did a
- 19:17Speaker 4: postgame show last night where I ripped the Broncos for
- 19:21Speaker 4: their lack of run game and how they they showed
- 19:24Speaker 4: us they could run the ball on one drive and
- 19:26Speaker 4: then fell asleep the rest of the game. But I
- 19:28Speaker 4: can read every single text and counter it with this.
- 19:33Speaker 4: Brian writes in one and Done, Houston is going to
- 19:37Speaker 4: come in here and beat that blank maybe or maybe
- 19:40Speaker 4: the Broncos barely beat Houston. Maybe. I mean you guys,
- 19:45Speaker 4: every single one of you seem to think that it's
- 19:49Speaker 4: set in stone that the playoffs. There is not a
- 19:53Speaker 4: single team that is without flaw.
- 19:55Speaker 7: Wait a minute, Houston, Houston damn near lost to Riley
- 19:58Speaker 7: Leonard yesterday.
- 20:00Speaker 5: They give him a thirty piece to them.
- 20:01Speaker 4: I mean, every team is flawed. Do I want to
- 20:05Speaker 4: play the Chargers again in two weeks with their starting quarterback? No, No,
- 20:12Speaker 4: that won't be fun. Justin Herbert's a lot better than
- 20:15Speaker 4: Trey Lance. He's not gonna miss wide open receivers all
- 20:18Speaker 4: over the field. No, but I guarantee you this it'll
- 20:21Speaker 4: be a different kind of game. That's where we are,
- 20:25Speaker 4: and here's where you are.
- 20:27Speaker 5: Here's the other thing.
- 20:28Speaker 7: And Testerer says, my concern is can Peyton and Knicks
- 20:30Speaker 7: turn the switch on offense. No, I don't think there's
- 20:34Speaker 7: a switch. We would have seen it in one of
- 20:37Speaker 7: the other seventeen games so far. They are who they
- 20:39Speaker 7: are and it's here's their formula. You play great defense,
- 20:45Speaker 7: you do enough at the end of the game to win.
- 20:47Speaker 7: They've done it almost every single week, with a couple
- 20:49Speaker 7: of exceptions.
- 20:50Speaker 6: No, you're mad.
- 20:52Speaker 4: Here's the deal. I know the source of the sea.
- 20:55Speaker 4: You have your own expectations, and when you don't see,
- 20:59Speaker 4: when you don't see the Ancos play to that level,
- 21:03Speaker 4: you're automatically angry. I've said all along, this game is
- 21:07Speaker 4: gonna be like every other game. This game is gonna
- 21:10Speaker 4: look like every other game, because that's what this team is.
- 21:12Speaker 4: I said it all week. So I'm not sitting here
- 21:14Speaker 4: this morning going oh my.
- 21:15Speaker 6: God, boo. Let me let me wrap it up by
- 21:19Speaker 6: saying this then, and this is the way I'll end
- 21:21Speaker 6: the first segment of the show today.
- 21:23Speaker 8: Am I ever happy?
- 21:24Speaker 6: No? No, Never in my life what I think that
- 21:29Speaker 6: I'd be sitting here steering at a fourteen and three
- 21:32Speaker 6: number one seed team with a bye a week and
- 21:36Speaker 6: an automatic spot in the division round going crap? I
- 21:42Speaker 6: think they're gonna get worked. Never in my life, what
- 21:47Speaker 6: I imagine that. But that's where we are.
- 21:49Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, Well we'll get back to this in a
- 21:51Speaker 7: little bit, because I'm still confused on that.
- 21:54Speaker 4: You could be right, you could be wrong too, But
- 21:57Speaker 4: then what if they win?
- 22:00Speaker 7: Then what we get back to this. We'll get back
- 22:03Speaker 7: to this in a little bit. Rally House, let's do
- 22:06Speaker 7: a song.
- 22:07Speaker 4: That's all a song.
- 22:09Speaker 7: They won a very confusing energy this morning by by
- 22:13Speaker 7: like everybody, I'm so confused by everything.
- 22:16Speaker 4: U MOS's attitude.
- 22:18Speaker 7: Yeah, turn them off, Get off rally House Football Monday
- 22:20Speaker 7: and out to the dude sports radio, Rally House shop
- 22:22Speaker 7: every team in town, the Abs and Nuggets from over
- 22:24Speaker 7: the weekend. Look, I was terrified yesterday when I saw
- 22:27Speaker 7: Gabelani's gotta go down and dare I say he's gonna
- 22:29Speaker 7: miss time. But I'm almost relieved with the time he's
- 22:33Speaker 7: going to miss. And I'll explain next.
- 22:35Speaker 6: You're talking to my guy all wrong.
- 22:36Speaker 4: It's wrong.
- 22:37Speaker 5: Tone by Rallyhouse Football Monday.
- 22:39Speaker 7: Get back to the Broncos in the NFL, and just
- 22:40Speaker 7: a little bit again, keeping our eye on some of
- 22:42Speaker 7: the breaking news that's happening this morning. It is Black Monday,
- 22:46Speaker 7: so coaches being let go across the NFL too. Already
- 22:50Speaker 7: Raheem Morris out of Atlanta is gone along with the GM.
- 22:53Speaker 7: Terry Fontineau uh, and then Kevin Stefanski a few minutes
- 22:56Speaker 7: ago is let go from Cleveland.
- 22:58Speaker 5: So keep an eye on that.
- 23:00Speaker 7: It felt as I was trying to keep my eyes
- 23:03Speaker 7: on three screens because the Avs, Nuggets, and Broncos were
- 23:06Speaker 7: all playing it once. Yesterday, I watched Landy crash into
- 23:12Speaker 7: the post and the waves of emotions that I went
- 23:17Speaker 7: through in that short amount of time, which was this.
- 23:23Speaker 5: Hits the post, he's down.
- 23:24Speaker 6: On the eyes.
- 23:24Speaker 7: I'm like, wow, that looks like it hurt. And then
- 23:27Speaker 7: you guys most show me the replay and I see
- 23:30Speaker 7: his left knee like buckle for a second before he
- 23:34Speaker 7: falls and crashes into the post, and I literally thought
- 23:37Speaker 7: it's not a ribs problem or anything, it's a knee issue,
- 23:41Speaker 7: and that this was possibly the end of his career
- 23:43Speaker 7: that I just witnessed.
- 23:44Speaker 4: I was terrified and sick. O.
- 23:46Speaker 7: Well, now I have nothing and I get the news
- 23:51Speaker 7: after the game.
- 23:52Speaker 5: As bed Nar said, this.
- 23:54Speaker 9: Hipper body, he's gonna miss some time. You know, he's
- 23:58Speaker 9: still getting looked at and diagnosed, but I mean it
- 24:03Speaker 9: did not look comfortable. So he's gonna miss some time
- 24:06Speaker 9: for sure.
- 24:06Speaker 5: Is he gonna stay here or go with you guys
- 24:08Speaker 5: to Tampa.
- 24:09Speaker 9: Or I'm not sure yet. Yeah, I think they're still
- 24:11Speaker 9: working that out.
- 24:12Speaker 6: Just what was your kind of initial reaction and everything
- 24:15Speaker 6: gonna happened with Gabe and.
- 24:17Speaker 4: All the way through well.
- 24:17Speaker 9: I mean, I hate to see any player, let alone
- 24:21Speaker 9: our captain, go in like that, But I mean it's
- 24:25Speaker 9: a fast game and looked like, you know, he just
- 24:28Speaker 9: trick got tripped up a little bit or tripped up
- 24:30Speaker 9: a little bit and went into the post. I mean,
- 24:32Speaker 9: this wasn't much there except for the collision with the post. Yeah.
- 24:36Speaker 7: I don't know if this is the reaction I should
- 24:38Speaker 7: have most, but this is where I'm at this morning.
- 24:42Speaker 5: I'm like happy, I know he's gonna miss.
- 24:44Speaker 7: I think the diagnose six to eight weeks is typically
- 24:47Speaker 7: what these injuries are if it's.
- 24:48Speaker 5: A rib thing.
- 24:49Speaker 7: I'm like relieved because I thought it was a knee
- 24:53Speaker 7: the way that I saw it on the replay, I
- 24:55Speaker 7: was like, oh my god, he's done, maybe for the year,
- 24:57Speaker 7: maybe for his career. To learn that it's only an
- 25:00Speaker 7: upper body rib problem. When he hit the post, I'm like.
- 25:02Speaker 4: Good, it's like Jokic relief. Yes, exactly what I want
- 25:07Speaker 4: to Like this motion. Those those goals come off the moorings, right,
- 25:12Speaker 4: They're supposed to break away, so you don't have major injury.
- 25:16Speaker 4: How I'm looking at the replay over and over and
- 25:20Speaker 4: over again. How does that? How is there that extensive
- 25:24Speaker 4: rib injury by hitting the crossbar there.
- 25:28Speaker 6: Well, you hit the post and Vic, you're going in fast.
- 25:31Speaker 6: I mean he's going in fast. I mean imagine he's
- 25:35Speaker 6: not at twenty miles per hour, but he's probably like
- 25:37Speaker 6: at seventeen something like that. I mean he's going fast.
- 25:41Speaker 6: He hits a rut with his left skate.
- 25:44Speaker 4: And sweet ice there, Florida.
- 25:47Speaker 6: I know he told picks and he goes down. I honestly,
- 25:50Speaker 6: his whole body language to me did not say knee.
- 25:53Speaker 6: And by the way, his right knee is the one
- 25:55Speaker 6: that has the dead guy in it, not the left knee.
- 25:57Speaker 7: Okay, but I almost think that'd be worse if it
- 25:59Speaker 7: was left knee, like it's the other one.
- 26:01Speaker 6: Now, well it's neither meee, so don't worry about that.
- 26:06Speaker 6: But even though the the net will come off the moorings,
- 26:11Speaker 6: you know, they've got the rubber they've got the rubber
- 26:13Speaker 6: little post that the net sits on top of, and
- 26:15Speaker 6: that little rubber post goes down into you know, into
- 26:19Speaker 6: the ice. It's a fine line between keeping the net
- 26:22Speaker 6: on and then having it just you know, fall off
- 26:24Speaker 6: all the time and break away. And thank god that
- 26:27Speaker 6: you know, years and years ago they actually changed it
- 26:30Speaker 6: where the net would come off. There's no metal spike
- 26:33Speaker 6: that goes, you know, directly into the ice and it
- 26:35Speaker 6: doesn't come off. But I mean when you're going that
- 26:37Speaker 6: fast and you hit that tissue and again I don't
- 26:39Speaker 6: know exactly where it was. I mean, just fe feel
- 26:43Speaker 6: your side, boys, feel your side? How more down to
- 26:45Speaker 6: your rib? Okay, from your rib, from your rib to
- 26:49Speaker 6: your hip. Okay, feel that area. If you're driving, go ahead,
- 26:52Speaker 6: feel yourself right there. Feel your love handles? This guy? Yeah,
- 26:55Speaker 6: so is it the love handle? Is it right at
- 26:57Speaker 6: the bottom of the rib? Is it internal? I don't.
- 27:00Speaker 6: I don't know the answer.
- 27:01Speaker 4: But do the hip pads come up a little bit?
- 27:03Speaker 6: Though?
- 27:03Speaker 4: The hip pads come up over the.
- 27:04Speaker 6: Lost not that far, yeah, but not that not when
- 27:06Speaker 6: you're falling down, you're you know, you're crouched, and then
- 27:09Speaker 6: the pants go down a little bit and it exposes.
- 27:12Speaker 6: Just just think of it this way. If it's nothing, well,
- 27:17Speaker 6: it could be. Hold on, let me explain. It's not
- 27:19Speaker 6: quite a Shania Twain midrift. You know that's exposed, but
- 27:24Speaker 6: it's it's close enough. Okay, It's not quite like just
- 27:27Speaker 6: you know, way up here, so all that's exposed and
- 27:31Speaker 6: you're going in hard, and to me, it looked like
- 27:34Speaker 6: wind is knocked out internal you know, scramble eggs whatever,
- 27:38Speaker 6: like oh my god, my you know, my my spleen
- 27:41Speaker 6: is angry, my kidney hurts, you know what I mean. Whatever,
- 27:43Speaker 6: That's what it looked like to me.
- 27:45Speaker 4: The reaction is what's scared a lot people. I mean,
- 27:48Speaker 4: just like when Joker reacted the way he did and
- 27:51Speaker 4: then Gabe couldn't move. I mean, he's on the ice
- 27:54Speaker 4: for what felt like an eternity, right, he couldn't move,
- 27:57Speaker 4: and then the way they had to help him off
- 27:58Speaker 4: the ice, it just it just looked so foreboding and
- 28:03Speaker 4: so ugly. I I just pain threshold is one thing,
- 28:08Speaker 4: but I wonder where the pain came from. I wonder
- 28:12Speaker 4: if it's an internal injury or not. But you're so right.
- 28:15Speaker 4: I never before have wanted anybody to injure their ribs,
- 28:20Speaker 4: but in this case, when you saw the slow mo
- 28:23Speaker 4: of the the left knee buckle, I thought for sure
- 28:26Speaker 4: that was it. Yep.
- 28:28Speaker 6: Yeah. But when I when I say it's got some
- 28:31Speaker 6: you know, I mean, I have no idea what he has.
- 28:32Speaker 6: But let's say it's this some broken ribs will be fine,
- 28:35Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It's like, well, the ain't
- 28:37Speaker 6: my The ain't my ribs, or they ain't my you know,
- 28:39Speaker 6: they ain't. It ain't my soft tissue. I mean, I
- 28:40Speaker 6: don't have no idea what's wrong with it, but but
- 28:42Speaker 6: it ain't. It ain't me. But ah, he'll be fine,
- 28:45Speaker 6: right And look, if he comes back with a dead
- 28:47Speaker 6: guy in his leg, he can come back from this
- 28:50Speaker 6: and play good effective hockey. Well here's the other thing.
- 28:53Speaker 5: But he was playing so well recently.
- 28:55Speaker 6: I know, dude, I know had a goal previous game
- 28:59Speaker 6: wrap around. I know.
- 29:00Speaker 7: Now the the Avs, they they lose that game. I
- 29:03Speaker 7: think that they are They're allowed to lose occasionally in regulations.
- 29:06Speaker 4: So I thought, oh my god, what a move.
- 29:11Speaker 7: That it felt like Carolina. Like I said this during
- 29:14Speaker 7: the Carolina game. You know, they give up another shorthanded
- 29:17Speaker 7: goal on the power play, and the power play still
- 29:19Speaker 7: looks like a mess right now.
- 29:20Speaker 5: It does, And to me, it's it's the billionaire. This
- 29:26Speaker 5: is how I described it.
- 29:27Speaker 7: The as feel like the billionaire who wants to take
- 29:29Speaker 7: the submarine to the Titanic or climb Mount Everest just
- 29:32Speaker 7: to remind them that they're they're mortal, that they can die,
- 29:35Speaker 7: and so they just want to like they want to
- 29:37Speaker 7: test their limits a little bit, just to make sure,
- 29:39Speaker 7: let they realize, hey, I can still be gotten okay.
- 29:44Speaker 7: And so they put themselves intentionally in bad positions. I'm
- 29:47Speaker 7: convinced of it. That's why they do it. Because you
- 29:49Speaker 7: have that three to one deficit that you're heading into
- 29:52Speaker 7: the third period with and within two minutes the game's tied.
- 29:55Speaker 7: A few minutes later, you get the lead again and
- 29:57Speaker 7: you get another dub.
- 29:58Speaker 5: It's like they test themselves.
- 30:01Speaker 6: You know what. I what I let me tell you what.
- 30:03Speaker 6: It was encouraging about yesterday's game, even though they lost
- 30:05Speaker 6: to the Florida Panthers two to one. The Panthers were
- 30:09Speaker 6: embarrassed on an international stage. On Friday night, they got
- 30:12Speaker 6: smoked outdoors in the Winter Classic against the Rangers in
- 30:16Speaker 6: their own you know, baseball barn. So they were pretty motivated,
- 30:20Speaker 6: they were primed and ready to go last night. But
- 30:23Speaker 6: there's there's never there's never a lack of effort with
- 30:27Speaker 6: the Aps, and and that's have you ever seen the
- 30:29Speaker 6: team sort of lollygag gets way through a game, vic
- 30:32Speaker 6: you ever see a team not play defense or guarding
- 30:35Speaker 6: the perimeter because they're lollygagging their way through a basketball game.
- 30:39Speaker 6: I mean, I'm trying to think of a team that's
- 30:41Speaker 6: done that. Well, I'll have to have to take your
- 30:44Speaker 6: word for it, but they never do that. They always
- 30:46Speaker 6: play hard. It's just they don't always play effectively because look, man,
- 30:50Speaker 6: it's a they're human beings. It's a back to back
- 30:53Speaker 6: situation this season, Brett. They were five to one and
- 30:56Speaker 6: one in game one and four zero to two in
- 30:58Speaker 6: Game two. You know, they always play hard, and they
- 31:02Speaker 6: played hard yesterday. They just they're just off. It's just
- 31:05Speaker 6: it's not sinking. It's just miss, miss miss. You know,
- 31:08Speaker 6: it's that kind of thing. It's passes like I'm turning
- 31:10Speaker 6: this way and you pass it off the boards that way.
- 31:12Speaker 6: It's that kind of stuff right.
- 31:15Speaker 4: By the way.
- 31:17Speaker 6: By the way, power play has to get figured out, dude,
- 31:19Speaker 6: it's bad. I mean, listen, Riker was correct in the
- 31:23Speaker 6: post game. He said, look, you get three power play chances,
- 31:26Speaker 6: you know, virtually in a row in that second period,
- 31:28Speaker 6: you don't score. If you do score, it's a totally
- 31:30Speaker 6: different game. Well here's you don't.
- 31:33Speaker 7: Score here's you're just bringing up Riker. Here's Riker in
- 31:36Speaker 7: the post game on the power play.
- 31:37Speaker 10: One one game, in the second period, you have three
- 31:40Speaker 10: power plays, you go up to one in this game,
- 31:42Speaker 10: you're gonna win this game. Not only did the power
- 31:45Speaker 10: plays not create anything, they were terrible. Once again, they
- 31:48Speaker 10: had two turnerves at the blue line that almost went
- 31:50Speaker 10: the other way for goals. So finally, here we are
- 31:52Speaker 10: at game forty one, the power play finally cost you
- 31:55Speaker 10: a game. We're certingly if you're talking going, we're a
- 31:57Speaker 10: little surprised this has not happened yet.
- 32:00Speaker 5: But let's see you get into the playoffs.
- 32:01Speaker 6: As we're talking.
- 32:02Speaker 10: You get a tight game like this, if you get
- 32:04Speaker 10: three power plays in the second period, you have to
- 32:06Speaker 10: score on one of those. I guess a team like
- 32:09Speaker 10: this and in a regulars season run back to back.
- 32:11Speaker 10: Guys have no gas, you've lost your captain. Something's got
- 32:15Speaker 10: to be done because it is not working, and that's
- 32:17Speaker 10: why they have no points.
- 32:18Speaker 7: Here tonight, we were just discussing the bronc as being
- 32:21Speaker 7: fourteen and three, and what do you feel, how's your
- 32:24Speaker 7: confidence level heading into the postseason. There'll be a divisional
- 32:27Speaker 7: in the divisional round, and there's a lot of question
- 32:30Speaker 7: on how people feel about that. I'll tell you this
- 32:32Speaker 7: right now, moj the Avs do everything well except for
- 32:35Speaker 7: the power play. It feels like right now, but when
- 32:37Speaker 7: I ask the question of what bounced you from the
- 32:39Speaker 7: postseason last year, it's the only thing you're not doing well.
- 32:44Speaker 5: And that's the concern.
- 32:45Speaker 7: It's like that can be enough for a great, historically
- 32:49Speaker 7: great to this point hockey team to get knocked out
- 32:53Speaker 7: earlier than they want to.
- 32:54Speaker 6: Is if you don't fix that, it has to be fixed.
- 32:57Speaker 6: And I again, do they work on it all the time.
- 33:02Speaker 6: They change personnel, they change scheme, they change, you know,
- 33:07Speaker 6: attack the way they attack the zone. They do all
- 33:09Speaker 6: different kinds of things. And you know, it worked against
- 33:12Speaker 6: Carolina they were two for five and that was good.
- 33:15Speaker 6: You know, they got in the zone and got it done.
- 33:16Speaker 6: But right now, it's just kind of like pulling teeth
- 33:19Speaker 6: and it's a it's a difficult thing. I I but
- 33:22Speaker 6: I wish I had the answers. I don't have the answers.
- 33:24Speaker 6: We'll talk to the coach about it on Wednesday, but
- 33:26Speaker 6: I I don't know. Keep working, I guess, but it's
- 33:31Speaker 6: a it's a it's got to be a concern at
- 33:33Speaker 6: this point.
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- 33:52Speaker 7: the Nuggets, they faced their old pal, Michael Porter Junior yesterday.
- 33:58Speaker 7: Things did not go well despite the return of Christian
- 34:00Speaker 7: Brown and ag. I'm curious as to what the time
- 34:05Speaker 7: frame is for the extended grace. We'll say, of these
- 34:09Speaker 7: injuries to start to dissipate and then you start to
- 34:12Speaker 7: take these a little bit more seriously and more concerningly
- 34:15Speaker 7: about this four out of five game losing streak that
- 34:19Speaker 7: they going on right now. So we'll get to that
- 34:21Speaker 7: in just a couple of minutes. Stick around, all right,
- 34:22Speaker 7: get back to.
- 34:23Speaker 5: The Broncos in just a little bit.
- 34:24Speaker 7: It is a rally house Football Monday VIC the Nuggets
- 34:28Speaker 7: as we're dealing with the trifecta yesterday. All the teams
- 34:31Speaker 7: playing At the same time Broncos Avs Nuggets played against Brooklyn.
- 34:35Speaker 7: They faced off against their old pal Michael Porter Junior,
- 34:38Speaker 7: who along with Jamal Murray, led the game and points.
- 34:42Speaker 7: Both of them had twenty seven. You got the return
- 34:45Speaker 7: of Christian Brown and ag. Ag came off the bench.
- 34:47Speaker 7: Brown was in the starting lineup. Ag looked good. Christian
- 34:51Speaker 7: Brown largely like was unnoticeable, it felt like in that game.
- 34:56Speaker 7: But when can we start to judge with those two
- 34:58Speaker 7: back in the lineup the NUGG it's for winning basketball
- 35:01Speaker 7: games again and being upset.
- 35:04Speaker 4: And it's not just winning games, it's how you play.
- 35:07Speaker 4: It's exactly the approach you bring to the game. I
- 35:11Speaker 4: am befuddled understand this and let me know if you
- 35:14Speaker 4: have that sound by Nelly of coach Attleman after the game,
- 35:17Speaker 4: because David Allman said exactly what I was thinking while
- 35:20Speaker 4: watching that game. You tell me, guys, how a team
- 35:25Speaker 4: that was minus those two starters went to Toronto and one
- 35:29Speaker 4: and played great defense and then went to Cleveland minus
- 35:33Speaker 4: five key players, played lockdown defense and had a chance to.
- 35:38Speaker 6: Win that game.
- 35:39Speaker 4: They were leading most of the way. How does that
- 35:41Speaker 4: team now the Cavalry returns the reinforcements are back, and
- 35:46Speaker 4: then they let off the gas and defensively they were awful. Awful.
- 35:50Speaker 4: One game on this road trip was more winnable than
- 35:53Speaker 4: the other's. One game, and that was yesterday's game and
- 35:57Speaker 4: the performance they put on the court. I thought last
- 36:00Speaker 4: intensity lacked the energy, like focus. They laid up, and
- 36:04Speaker 4: it's there's no excuse for that. They lost a game
- 36:07Speaker 4: they should have won, just like in Toronto they won
- 36:09Speaker 4: the game they should have lost. It's okay, hey, you
- 36:12Speaker 4: could be surprised and celebratory after the win in Toronto.
- 36:15Speaker 4: I'm like, gosh, look at these Nuggets. Man, they're scrappy,
- 36:17Speaker 4: they're fun, their gutsy, good job, greedy.
- 36:20Speaker 6: You know what.
- 36:21Speaker 4: I'll take the opposite of that and say, yesterday that
- 36:23Speaker 4: was terrible. That was a terrible approach. Don't listen to me,
- 36:28Speaker 4: listen to the head coach.
- 36:29Speaker 11: We're just from the start, our energy was lackluster, embarrassing
- 36:33Speaker 11: to start this game. I thought we picked it up
- 36:35Speaker 11: as it went, but you know, the game was out
- 36:37Speaker 11: of control at that point. They started feeling good about themselves.
- 36:39Speaker 11: Guys started making threes. Forty one the third quarter really
- 36:43Speaker 11: speaks to that. But you can't come out with an
- 36:45Speaker 11: unprofessional approach, and we did put ourselves up against it. So,
- 36:49Speaker 11: you know, we can have all these excuses about guys
- 36:51Speaker 11: just getting back their rotation's different, all that crap, but
- 36:54Speaker 11: the bottom line is we didn't. We were not ready
- 36:56Speaker 11: to play, and we were not ready to play. Things
- 36:59Speaker 11: like this happened, Starts like that happened, and eventually a
- 37:01Speaker 11: third quarter like that happened. So it's a very disappointing
- 37:04Speaker 11: performance from our guys.
- 37:06Speaker 4: Wow, when when a coach hits you with the unprofessional right,
- 37:09Speaker 4: when he calls you unprofessional, that's that's gonna trigger that
- 37:14Speaker 4: should trigger.
- 37:14Speaker 7: You, sounded dream Maloneish Malones dropped that one a couple
- 37:20Speaker 7: of times too.
- 37:21Speaker 4: When it's the efforts not there, Well, I don't think
- 37:23Speaker 4: I think he was just befuddled. Likes were how that
- 37:26Speaker 4: same team that that's the same group that played so
- 37:30Speaker 4: hard and it was I mean, it was so fun
- 37:33Speaker 4: to watch them. I don't know about you guys watching
- 37:36Speaker 4: them in Toronto and Cleveland. They lost the game in
- 37:39Speaker 4: Cleveland and I was proud. Yeah, how often are you
- 37:42Speaker 4: proud of your team when they lose?
- 37:44Speaker 6: No, they but this was this was the one game
- 37:46Speaker 6: that was hard for me to watch because I have
- 37:48Speaker 6: sure the Broncos going wilds teime, preparing for my own
- 37:52Speaker 6: game and then getting into my own game. So this
- 37:55Speaker 6: was this was the one that I was in and
- 37:56Speaker 6: out of throughout the entire game.
- 37:59Speaker 4: You didn't miss much. They're terrible.
- 38:00Speaker 6: You're right. But here's the thing is that when you
- 38:03Speaker 6: have AG and CB come back, I think human nature,
- 38:07Speaker 6: it's very easy to say, oh, well, we got two
- 38:09Speaker 6: of our starters back, will be fine. No, you're not
- 38:12Speaker 6: gonna be fine. You've got to play hard. You can't
- 38:15Speaker 6: just say well, but you know these guys are back
- 38:18Speaker 6: and everything's gonna be okay, because it's not. Because you'll
- 38:20Speaker 6: get beat by Brooklyn. That's why you'll get beat by
- 38:23Speaker 6: a ten win basketball team.
- 38:25Speaker 7: So are we at the point now or is it
- 38:27Speaker 7: still gonna take a couple more games with Christian Brown
- 38:30Speaker 7: and AG back where you start to look at some
- 38:35Speaker 7: matchups and like, certainly last night.
- 38:37Speaker 4: Was one of them that you should have won. You
- 38:38Speaker 4: should have beat Brooklyn.
- 38:39Speaker 7: But you start looking at matchups like this is a
- 38:41Speaker 7: game they should win now when they're playing against the
- 38:43Speaker 7: lower tier teams in the league. Or is it still
- 38:45Speaker 7: kind of like, Hey, they're trying to figure things out
- 38:48Speaker 7: without joker. I know you said it's about the way
- 38:50Speaker 7: it looks. But Vic, let's say, let's say they gave
- 38:53Speaker 7: effort game. Let's say they gave effort yesterday and lost
- 38:55Speaker 7: to Brooklyn. Still, is that still one that you're like, Yeah,
- 38:57Speaker 7: what are you gonna do? You hurt a lot, you
- 38:59Speaker 7: know what I mean?
- 38:59Speaker 4: Well, I mean, but as a fan, don't you just
- 39:02Speaker 4: want to see the effort and provide the effort. The
- 39:05Speaker 4: wins will come. But when you can watch a game
- 39:07Speaker 4: as a fan, I'm not even a coach. I mean,
- 39:10Speaker 4: the coach said it himself afterwards, I'm professional, horrible approach.
- 39:13Speaker 4: But when you're a fan watching and you see it,
- 39:16Speaker 4: what does that tell you? Yeah, you saw it. They're
- 39:19Speaker 4: now one and four on this road trip. They've lost
- 39:21Speaker 4: four to the last five. That's to be expected at
- 39:23Speaker 4: the injuries. I'm not I'm not sitting here telling you
- 39:25Speaker 4: that it's gonna be pretty Just give effort, that's all.
- 39:28Speaker 4: That's that's all you can ask.
- 39:29Speaker 6: For as a fan.
- 39:30Speaker 4: I mean, you may lose the remainder of this road trip.
- 39:33Speaker 4: I mean, come on, they're gonna go to Philadelphia tonight,
- 39:36Speaker 4: second game of a back to back with a roster
- 39:39Speaker 4: that's hampered by injury. Good luck with that, and then
- 39:43Speaker 4: you finish it off in Boston's playing a lot better.
- 39:45Speaker 4: Good luck with that. Hang probably gonna go one and
- 39:47Speaker 4: six on this road trip.
- 39:49Speaker 5: Second game of.
- 39:49Speaker 7: A back to back, roster's still really injured, playing against Philly,
- 39:55Speaker 7: guaranteed dub nobody maybe off we know this win like
- 40:01Speaker 7: I think we know this team. They should have no
- 40:04Speaker 7: business winning this game. Game turns into a win.
- 40:07Speaker 4: See that book that makes me happy. If that ticks me.
- 40:09Speaker 5: Off, I know I'm with you. But whatever, whenever wos
- 40:17Speaker 5: shit off, it.
- 40:18Speaker 4: Would almost be ticked off if they wanted that.
- 40:20Speaker 6: You're like, come on, you're gonna be pissed.
- 40:21Speaker 5: If they win.
- 40:23Speaker 4: Well, I mean you just said it right. You have
- 40:25Speaker 4: no reason to win tonight. You played Jamal Murray forty
- 40:29Speaker 4: minutes last night. The dude has been playing is he's
- 40:32Speaker 4: been playing hard to I don't know if he's been
- 40:34Speaker 4: doubled every time, blitzed everything.
- 40:37Speaker 5: He is playing his ass off watching Jamal all year.
- 40:41Speaker 4: Really, I look tired watching I feel tired of watching
- 40:44Speaker 4: him play.
- 40:45Speaker 6: Well, what do you have?
- 40:46Speaker 5: Did he have like sixteen assists.
- 40:47Speaker 4: And the sixteen assists and he and he had twenty
- 40:50Speaker 4: seven points.
- 40:52Speaker 7: Like whatever you thought about Jamal and que the text
- 40:55Speaker 7: coming in, Well, he's a professional, he's supposed to do this, Okay, Fine,
- 40:58Speaker 7: he's having a phenomenal season doubled every time. Yes, especially
- 41:04Speaker 7: with that added pressure, Because I was curious, how is
- 41:06Speaker 7: Jamal going to handle what he is? How how rare
- 41:09Speaker 7: has it been in his career VIC where he's the
- 41:11Speaker 7: focal point that you need to try and shut down.
- 41:14Speaker 7: He's going to be that for a month now at least.
- 41:17Speaker 7: How does he handle it? I thought in the absence.
- 41:19Speaker 7: So far, he's done a really good job.
- 41:21Speaker 4: What's the term that coach Bednar uses a lot when
- 41:24Speaker 4: passengers passengers? I'm looking at the Nuggets. There are a
- 41:28Speaker 4: lot of passengers.
- 41:29Speaker 6: In that game.
- 41:31Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you want to win down two centers,
- 41:35Speaker 4: they're down two centers. You can't afford to have any passengers.
- 41:38Speaker 4: By the way, they didn't have any passengers in Toronto,
- 41:41Speaker 4: they didn't have any in Cleveland. Everybody played as hard
- 41:43Speaker 4: as passengers were not to be found. There were last.
- 41:46Speaker 5: Night Pace up right now.
- 41:49Speaker 7: The guys that are playing right now that if this
- 41:52Speaker 7: team were fully healthy, would not even sniff the floor.
- 41:55Speaker 7: Have no excuse to be a passenger. Ever, You're getting
- 41:59Speaker 7: playing time when you otherwise wouldn't. There should be no
- 42:03Speaker 7: like I have to motivate you to get up tonight
- 42:06Speaker 7: and bring some energy that should be automatic for about
- 42:09Speaker 7: half the guys that are on the floor right now,
- 42:11Speaker 7: because they they would or else wouldn't be absentute injury.
- 42:16Speaker 4: I mean, you tell me how this works, how is
- 42:19Speaker 4: this possible? And this is where I'm a little frustrated.
- 42:22Speaker 4: Your two best defensive players return to the lineup to
- 42:27Speaker 4: give you a bit of a push, right, Yeah, AG
- 42:31Speaker 4: and CB. We're told all the time, those are your
- 42:33Speaker 4: two best defensive players, glue guys who can do both sides.
- 42:38Speaker 4: How do you go from giving up one hundred and
- 42:40Speaker 4: three in Toronto, one hundred and thirteen in Cleveland, and
- 42:44Speaker 4: then one twenty seven when those guys are.
- 42:46Speaker 7: Back against the worst team that you faced. I don't know,
- 42:52Speaker 7: don't have a good answer for you. I mean, the
- 42:54Speaker 7: short answer is just effort, right, just an effort thing.
- 42:58Speaker 4: I think, and I hope they don't don't use this
- 43:00Speaker 4: to try to expedite Nikola Jokicic's rehab and recovery. Whatever
- 43:05Speaker 4: you do, be careful. But just from looking at him,
- 43:09Speaker 4: watching him fellas, I would not be surprised if he's
- 43:15Speaker 4: back way earlier than people think, that would not surprise me.
- 43:20Speaker 4: I'm not giving you a medical opinion here. I'm not
- 43:23Speaker 4: giving you any insight. I have no idea what the
- 43:26Speaker 4: medical I just watching his gait in his stride.
- 43:31Speaker 6: Well. And the good thing is.
- 43:34Speaker 7: I think correct me if I'm wrong here, Vic. It's
- 43:36Speaker 7: not the type of injury that if he were you know,
- 43:39Speaker 7: like you held up you hold out a guy like
- 43:42Speaker 7: Ag a little bit longer because it's a soft tissue thing,
- 43:45Speaker 7: and you're like that could crop up anytime. This is
- 43:49Speaker 7: just kind of like when it feels right, you're good,
- 43:51Speaker 7: isn't it. There isn't like a risk of re injuring
- 43:55Speaker 7: a bone bruise. It's just when it's healed to healed.
- 43:57Speaker 4: I'm giving a couple of texts here and let me
- 43:59Speaker 4: explain my my rationale here. Motion you've seen this from
- 44:02Speaker 4: teams before. Somebody texts in, is it that Ag and
- 44:06Speaker 4: Cebe haven't played a game without Joker on the floor,
- 44:08Speaker 4: so they were kind of lost without you know, Joker
- 44:10Speaker 4: in there. Of course, obviously you got to you gotta reset,
- 44:14Speaker 4: learn how to play without him. But last I checked
- 44:17Speaker 4: the previous two games, they were without Joker too, and
- 44:19Speaker 4: those guys seem to do just fine.
- 44:21Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's hey, listen, somebody else will do the job.
- 44:25Speaker 6: That's what it is. It's somebody else will will guard
- 44:28Speaker 6: their guys. Somebody else will flash out to the perimeter,
- 44:32Speaker 6: somebody else will play hard.
- 44:33Speaker 4: D oh, you know human nature, these guys are back.
- 44:35Speaker 4: We can just yeah, exhale it.
- 44:37Speaker 6: Correct, that's exactly right, and it's not going to cut it.
- 44:40Speaker 6: So hopefully the comments of the coach, because you can't
- 44:42Speaker 6: go to that well all the time. You can't go
- 44:44Speaker 6: to the unprofessional well all the time, guys, that's a
- 44:47Speaker 6: that's a rare well.
- 44:50Speaker 4: And when you're injured, injured like this in Brooklyn, so
- 44:53Speaker 4: think about it.
- 44:55Speaker 6: So for and David Adelman's being honest, he's probably a
- 44:57Speaker 6: little bit calculated in that too. But you can't go
- 45:00Speaker 6: to that well all the time. So we'll see how
- 45:01Speaker 6: they respond. I'm not even saying they have to win
- 45:04Speaker 6: in Philly. I'm just saying that that I just want
- 45:07Speaker 6: to see the effort there, that's all I want to
- 45:09Speaker 6: see the effort.
- 45:10Speaker 5: Tune in tonight.
- 45:11Speaker 7: Christian Brown, Aaron Gordon back in the lineup for their
- 45:13Speaker 7: second game after missing time with injuries. Pre game for
- 45:15Speaker 7: the Nuggets and six Ers on ninety two. Five'll start
- 45:17Speaker 7: at six o'clock and it is powered by Ramos Law.
- 45:19Speaker 5: Hopefully they get a.
- 45:20Speaker 7: Little, uh a lot better performance tonight than it was
- 45:23Speaker 7: last night.
- 45:24Speaker 6: Yes, mauch, I'm gonna make a I'm gonna make a
- 45:28Speaker 6: promise to you guys into the listening audience. You know,
- 45:33Speaker 6: my my mom would always say, if you can't say
- 45:37Speaker 6: something nice about somebody, just make sure they're not in
- 45:42Speaker 6: the friggin' room, Okay, And I'm going to h I'm
- 45:50Speaker 6: going to collect my thoughts on the Denver Broncos and
- 45:53Speaker 6: their offense. I'm going to recollect my thoughts. And you
- 45:57Speaker 6: know what, I may do, Vic just for you, because
- 45:59Speaker 6: I know what it's that's you, and I know you
- 46:01Speaker 6: think that I'm being silly and flip it and everything else.
- 46:05Speaker 6: I may not say anything from this point on, you know,
- 46:08Speaker 6: the next two weeks about the Broncos offense, I may
- 46:11Speaker 6: not say a day.
- 46:12Speaker 7: Well here more, let me ask this question as we
- 46:14Speaker 7: get to break. Ponder this in the next few minutes.
- 46:17Speaker 6: By and by the way, I've got some shot with
- 46:19Speaker 6: some of my thoughts on the Sean Payton Mark Kizla controversy.
- 46:24Speaker 6: I got some thoughts on that too.
- 46:25Speaker 4: I get a question for you.
- 46:26Speaker 7: Ponder this during the break, because there's a lot of
- 46:30Speaker 7: people that feel the way that Mosher does that the
- 46:32Speaker 7: Broncos won yesterday, but their offense looked awful, got the
- 46:36Speaker 7: win the one seed, fourteen win season. Would your perspective
- 46:42Speaker 7: really be different had the offense put up thirty five yesterday?
- 46:47Speaker 5: So think about that for a second.
- 46:49Speaker 7: And if the answer is yes, then I think you're
- 46:54Speaker 7: fooling yourself.
- 46:55Speaker 5: We'll get to it next