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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles REPLAY 092326 - Rebutting the Presumption: Freedom, Passports, and Common Law · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: Amen.
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  That little message on the lead in sounded a little ominous today.
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  Your connection has been terminated by the moderator. Moderator.
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  Unknown: I guess that came from Paul. That she wasn't she wasn't supposed to get through to you. I just looked at a button here. I went, how did she get into the show? But she did. She worked her way. Well, She's gone now. I didn't know. It was a very surreal start to the day, wasn't it? Very surreal. Sorry, my apologies for the totally my fault here at this time. I'm hoping it's not foreshadowing,
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  Unknown: okay?
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  So anyway, obviously Paul's on with us today, it's Thursday,
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  generally he's here with us on Mirkalis.
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  Miraculous,
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  you say? Yes, that's Wednesday in of Spanish. And
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  but yesterday, something came up, hadn't explored that with him but anyway, we just bumped him back a day. We're pretty we're we're pretty casual around here and extremely flexible. So, that allows us to do things like that. Roger Sale is your moderator, obviously. Radio
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  Ranch, radio
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  ranch is the name of our show and the People's Patriot Network, our platform,
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  which if it wasn't for this guy right here, we wouldn't probably have. So again amigo,
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  muchas gracias as I say down here, many thanks. How you doing Paul? Hi. What's going on man? No probs. Are we out of are we out of are we out of the EU yet? Are we out of the EU today or not? Yeah, of course.
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  Unknown: Well,
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  you know, like I was saying before or like I was
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  I filled in for
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  you know, because you were there, but I filled in for Dennis Fletcher on Saturday. In the first half an hour, I was really sort of banging on about this. Oh. That basically I mean, you know, if we follow it through logically, how can you come out of a thing that you were never actually in in the first place? I mean, know this sounds like a trite point, but it's actually very true.
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  We we've never been in the European Union. That's how I phrase it anyway. Can I allude back to that show on Saturday because
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  Unknown: I knew you were on the subbing for Dennis and I promoted it on Friday with Brent and then I got up and I dialed it in and I got to hear thirty minutes of you going through technical
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  hell,
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  and I'm sure nobody in the audience appreciated
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  it as much as I did?
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  Unknown: Oh, maybe not.
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  I don't know really, it was just a bit strange.
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  It was
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  I don't have technical problems as you know. I mean, really, no. I I actually don't. I don't have them because I make sure that they're all warded off, but this was
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  this was really rather bizarre. Yeah. But I was trying to bring someone into the show. This is, you know, hey, listeners. This is the technical underwear airing section of today's show. So I was trying to bring someone in. Who was I trying to bring in? We had I had Tom Goodrich, the author who I'm working with you on this audiobook, he was in the wings and I said I'm gonna bring you in just after the first break. So I go to bring him in to the call and my whole screen went blue. I don't mean it wasn't a blue screen of death, it went a sort of it went that lurid Skype blue, know. So anyway, I'm still hearing everything but I can't see anything and I couldn't bring Tom in which was very weird and
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  people are sending me a message about, no, you're coming through loud and clear because I sound like a goofball. Mean, you're supposed to do is really you're sort of talking blind, aren't you?
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  You are.
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  So an
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  English chap who I don't know at all, but I kind of know a little bit now called Neil, oh hang on, I've got helicopters coming over. Can you hear those through my microphone? Want Oh, they see. I'm gonna bomb you soon. The moderator is going to disconnect you.
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  I'm gonna be seriously disconnected. They're gonna disconnect me from the planet at this rate. Go away, lads. Come on. We always have helicopters fighting around here. So anyway,
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  I'm gonna have to just hold a second. Hold the line a second. Otherwise, it's gonna be it'll be worse than than Jim Ram's donkeys or whatever. Was a great No. No. He'll take he'll take great umbrage to that because we find out it wasn't a donkey. It was a dog.
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  Unknown: And the dog took evidently great umbrage to being called a donkey. I'll give you a little wax here. Hey, Shane, how you doing out in Silicon Valley, amigo?
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  Unknown: Hello, Roger. Hello.
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  Unknown: Paul, hello. Hi. Hi. Hi, Shane. Hi.
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  Unknown: We go. Glad to hear you. Just sent out the helicopters.
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  Unknown: Okay, did you shoot you shoot them off? Did you shoot them off? Did just fly swatter out and get them out of there?
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  Unknown: Well, I don't haven't got a chance to see them but they're such noisy buggers, aren't they? Those things. They hover around for a bit. Mean Not See, I'm about I'm about a 150 yards from the beach
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  and so
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  beach sounds awfully grand, it's actually covered in pebbles. Yeah, it's covered in a lot of stones. I am and we get this helicopter patrols zooming up and down but sometimes you get army ones
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  flitting around, they've got nothing else better to do than I don't know what's You know, you just really
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  Unknown: sparked memories are great, aren't they? And you just sparked one for me. I've told, I think I told the story once a couple years ago back when I was living in Panama City before I moved to Argentina.
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  I love fishing. I've been around fishing family and all that and I had my millionaire buddy who wrote the forward to my book, David Strait, now deceased unfortunately.
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  We lost a good one there.
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  He had the money to buy a big boat, twin engines, and all that stuff, and he'd come to Florida and come stay at the house because they live right on the water and have a dock, and we'd go out and go fishing. So he's always, and I had too, wanted to go night fishing out there, okay,
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  because
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  catch different fish at night, a whole different experience. And so we went out one night on a night fishers, three of us, me and him and another guy that I knew there.
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  And so we went out to this favorite hole of ours, three or four miles out, and we're, you know, anchored and we're looking around and stuff,
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  and all of a sudden, and I mean, you just talk about you hear the helicopters and how noisy they are, well buddy, they got some that ain't noisy, Because
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  we had one buzz our ship that thought we were out there smuggling drugs,
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  and he came so close and you I'm could not
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  in the back of a boat fishing three miles out in the Gulf Of Mexico,
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  okay? And all of a sudden, all you hear is
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  and there's a helicopter right by the boat, and it was so close I could see in the in the cockpit and see the damn instruments illuminated
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  and you couldn't hear a whisper.
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  Right. Okay? So, they ain't. My
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  my comment is with that story backing it up, they ain't all noisy.
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  Unknown: No.
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  No. I guess the ones that they want to be noisy, they will send so that you're aware of those. The ones that they don't want to be noisy, they'll send those if they. Not that I'm paranoid, I can't see why they would want to come and see me.
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  I can't. You
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  can understand
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  Unknown: what it was out there for and understand it all, but I never come in contact with one, especially personally,
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  that close,
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  and three pretty sharp guys
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  were sitting there with our mouths open going, holy smoke.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Well, they got some good gear, don't they? Well done.
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  They've got some great gear and they've probably got a lot of gear with you know, that's way down the line, know, so
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  they've always got loads of stuff in their back pocket because they're gonna like that, aren't they? Yeah. But
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  yeah. Helicopters. Yeah. Fine, well we didn't have any on Saturdays so that was quite good and like I was saying I ended up speaking this guy Neil,
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  who just fortunately called in just at the right time and then to finish off my technical
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  moment, at the end of the first hour I went okay I'll reboot Skype, see, because it's like a four minute ad break on their on
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  their station setup at Revolution Radio, they did some good stuff over there and so
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  I thought I'll reboot Skype. When I rebooted Skype, Skype updated.
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  This is really good. Everything just going so well. You know, I've been preparing to sort of run a well managed three hour thing. I'm going, hey, that's all shot to bits and it so it's updating and I'm kind of tuning into the ads. Anyway, it came back live with about ten seconds before they queued me back in. I So was quite pleased about that. So anyway from then on it was a little bit more fun and not so arduous but
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  yeah. Anyway what we're talking about? Oh yeah, what I was saying was that in that first
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  the first sort of twenty five minutes that I was doing there,
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  I was covering this idea, know, the Brexit idea that that basically,
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  know, I know these sound like technical discussions, but they're true and there there seems to be some traction coming around over here in certain areas.
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  How can you leave a thing
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  when you were never in it? And the actual situation is that we were never in the European Union. I know this is a ridiculous thing to say because for the last forty years,
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  you know forty nine years or whatever, the country has behaved as if it is but actually it can't be. It's not allowed to be by the laws of the realm here.
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  No matter what the Queen says or the government says or anybody says,
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  can't do it.
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  So
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  that's really the point I was thinking to make is that because it broke the constitution,
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  is the Queen the monarch? Is she monarching? I'm gonna say no, can't because you know she has a contract, you know about contracts, everybody around here knows about contracts right? She has a contract with her subjects.
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  I'm fine being a subject as long as everything's transparent and I don't mind what words they want to use, I don't think it's demeaning,
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  we're just looking for structure and order and transparency around law. Oh, but
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  Unknown: Paul, Paul. But we do care about what words they use because the words they use frame
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  the system.
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  Unknown: Well, they do, but you see when they're in breach of their own thing, technically, we don't have to listen to them anymore. In fact, we don't actually have to listen at all.
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  And so the point all I'm trying to make I don't disagree with you about the words. I'm just saying I don't want to sort of get bogged down on the word subject today necessarily
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  because, know, I understand it's it doesn't sound great. So you know I'm not sort of saying yes please enslave me, that's not really what I'm up to.
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  But
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  you know if there's a contract in place between
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  or more parties and someone fails
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  to fulfill their duties as laid out on the schedule, that's effectively what we're talking about, and the monarch has a certain duty to do called defense of the realm, he or she is appointed to uphold that. Well when they fail to do that I'm simply saying okay well this person is obviously not the monarch because a monarch upholds the defense of the realm and this person isn't doing that so it can't be the monarch. So I would say you know I know this is all glib in many ways but the Queen has not been the monarch
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  of this country ever since she agreed to allow this nation to be governed by the laws or the systems of the European Union
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  and not because I say so but because our law books have codified it for a long long time and in fact there's I mean there's all sorts of rucks still going on. This is gonna
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  it's gonna move around apparently
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  Theresa May has extended Brexit for six months but I hear
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  and I've read articles, in fact Greg sent me one a little bit earlier today but I was already prior aware of it but thank you Greg anyway,
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  saying that there are stories floating around that we we actually did leave on the twenty ninth irrespective of what the public communications front is saying, we're out.
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  Now because if you go for a passport now
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  and I actually have to have one, I haven't had one for a couple of years, I couldn't be bothered.
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  I have to get a new passport at some point although now that I've said that they won't let me have one but I don't care.
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  But it says British passport on it again, the EU thing has been removed from the passports apparently.
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  We'll find out when I make an application imminently within the next couple of weeks so I'll keep you posted on that but
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  it
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  shows
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  the communication sphere, the sphere that we are seeking to be involved with more fully obviously with all these efforts,
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  the communication sphere
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  is the prime sphere. It doesn't matter what has happened really on the fundamental level for a lot of day to day living. Whatever they say that comes out of that box and goes through them, everybody's absorbing that and thinking that that's the truth of the situation.
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  So it shows you the power that they have obviously, we're all well aware of this, to sort of you know defer,
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  delay, confuse, and make more
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  Unknown: complex
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  Obfuscate
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  is a great word. Listen, you know, like I'll give you a tip, you know, not like plant your corn in
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  the spring or, you know, buy low, sell high, read that passport
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  application when you apply
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  carefully.
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  In
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  fact, I'd like to see
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  a copy of a British passport application, if you could just shoot a copy and shoot it to me when you get one, I wouldn't mind reading it.
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  Unknown: I bet you're a fun guy at parties, Roger. Well, I I don't usually get invited.
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  I know. Yeah. I've got invited Roger. All he wants to talk about is passport applications. Well, no. Are you kidding me? No.
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  Is a
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  Unknown: this is a illustrative
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  story for all of us here because I've been so obsessed and the people that glom onto our signal here and our message are pretty much obsessed with this or they get that way. And so when you do go to parties, you do talk about it. And I was invited when I was back in Atlanta to a good friend of mine's party, and
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  there was one of these young younger people that have come through this Marxist
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  Leninist pablum school system, see, and we get into a discussion on some of these basic items
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  and
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  he's going, well, what about that guy over there that can't buy a house? How does that make you feel?
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  I don't go, well, what the hell difference does it make how it makes me feel? He's the one that's got the problem with the house but it's shifting everything over to emotions and we got into a pretty large heated discussion that kind of interrupted the party. It wasn't mine. He's the one that kept throwing fire on gas
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  on the fire, but it got to the point where later the guy's wife said, Well, we're not inviting you to any more parties. So they sent me an email to that effect. I said, well, you know, I don't want to come to your garden parties where you discuss things you don't understand and know nothing about of no importance,
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  so I just soon not waste my time either, thanks.
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  Unknown: You see, parties are fun, aren't they? When you're when you're a teenager, you're going for one reason really. So that's why you go and it's all, you know, all the hormones are raging and blah blah blah. It's great fun. That's what you do. And you always come home disappointed or you should do. Right? So that's really what's good. But when you're older, you're really going to parties
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  for an argument.
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  Well I'd like to go for it. You are. How about an No, no, hope I bump into some idiot that I can have a stand up
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  joust with, that'd be fantastic.
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  That'll keep me, you know, I have I think I've said it before, if I ever want a bit of not that I'm like you now. I'm I'm at that age where I don't get invited because I've said no so many times, I suppose. But if I get there and want a bit of peace and quiet,
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  I I simply start talking about race in the kitchen and everybody leaves the kitchen. You can then get the beer or the wine and the food and no one wants to talk to you, you get a bit of peace and quiet for the rest of the year. It's fantastic. So it's a tip there. That's my that's my social Well my social tip of the day. I remember hearing a hearing a comedian here a few years back when it started getting all the pub politically correct stuff started coming out and it's being applied, I should say. And the guy goes, Well, hell, if you can't talk about race and you can't talk about sex, what the hell is there to talk about?
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  Unknown: I'll always remember that.
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  Oh lordy. Well, here's my point on all this for our listeners and people that are into this at whatever stage,
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  okay, because we're a number of us in different stages,
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  is that
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  once you get this information in your mind, your life changes. It's life changing information
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  because it changes the way you think, it reprioritizes,
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  and you can't do that in your mind
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  without changing the way you live your life.
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  Yep.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Yeah. It's
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  well, there's lots of there's lots of opportunities now for people to choose things that are gonna change their life
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  and it might be wise to do so because people's lives are gonna get changed whether they choose these things or not right now. So I think
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  if anybody's ever felt sort of slightly shy about getting involved things, now's the time to overcome your public embarrassment and get stuck in because
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  every single indicator
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  from every little supposedly small or not so small incident I. E. Notre Dame and all these other things that are going on right, they're indicative really that the opening stages of the war have begun. I can't put it out the way really.
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  So you know the conflict has been in the realm of ideas and because we are gonna kick anybody's bottom very heavily when it comes to the realm of evidence and fact based discussion because
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  that's what we've always been pursuing anyway,
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  then of course they're gonna have to go to the diversion system more fully and I think that's really what's going on you know, so it's not a genius come and play anybody could but it does look that way. Have you seen that little clip, that little short clip of the guy torching it,
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  Unknown: surface yesterday?
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  I shot you a copy. Yeah,
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  Unknown: yeah maybe maybe that's what's going on. I mean I haven't even followed it that much. I've seen people saying this is very depressing. I've gone, no. Isn't I mean I don't feel emotion. It's not good. I mean don't get me wrong. I'm not sort of way you know Notre Dame's gone up in flames. It's ridiculous. But it's not. People need to not be sort of cowed by the sentiment that's been projected by the media. Oh, everybody's in great no. They're not. Stop, you know, projecting an emotion onto us. What everybody's thinking is, who lit that fire? No one thinks it's an accident. I mean, seriously?
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  It's it's at the epicenter of of literally at geographical
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  heart I think of of Paris.
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  So it's symbolic in many many ways. You could see that Parisians obviously are many are upset,
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  but overall
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  you look at it and you go any
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  sense of the first sensible question is,
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  well who started that? Because an accident, are you kidding me? An accident
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  on a massive major restoration.
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  You don't have accidents like that, safety
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  Unknown: measures. Especially when the workers weren't at work that day by the way, not one of them.
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  Yeah,
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  Unknown: I've already seen comments coming through that some of the workers have said that they know it was deliberate and this that and the other
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  and then you think, okay, does it really matter? You know, think we discussed this. Didn't we discuss this with the New Zealand thing? First of all, it occurred exactly one month after the New Zealand thing, so they like all that. We've got Easter coming up so you know, hey ho. How
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  Unknown: appropriate.
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  Unknown: Well for them, know, they like to play on their dates, don't they? And to sort of hijack the emotional conditions of
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  the planet at the time so that your attention is drawn over to this or drawn over to that or whatever it may be.
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  So they're doing all those sorts of
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  Unknown: Paul, I have a question.
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  Sorry to digress from this particular topic
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  but I would like to ask you if you have been to a city council meeting.
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  Have you participated
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  in the city council
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  meeting?
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  Unknown: No. He goes to the privy he goes to the privy council meetings,
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  Shane.
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  Unknown: I wouldn't
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  I believe that they're the same thing. I mean, the same
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  type of,
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  city council meetings
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  within your city,
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  and therefore,
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  get involved and things like that. I believe you can find a lot more people there who are more interested in what you have to say than people who would not be interested in what you say. Shane, do you do you do you bring us this comment under the all politics is local mantra?
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  Yeah. Well, trying to, yeah. Okay.
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  Unknown: That's a good question. Do you go down and hang with the city council in the meetings over there, Paul?
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  What do you think I'm gonna say? Well, I think I know Let's think I'm yes,
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  Unknown: put your hands up or remove your trousers or wherever you sit. The answer, of course, is a resounding no.
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  You know, what am I supposed to do? Have you actually met these individuals? You know what they're like. I mean, it's not good for your spiritual health to hang around people who are basically
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  involved in the cringing lying business. I'm sorry. I've got absolutely no time for them whatsoever. They're ridiculous people.
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  I mean, I've I went to meet my local MP.
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  He's quite he's actually quite a major figure. I think he's still alive actually. I went to meet my local MP
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  and it was about
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  this would be about fifteen years ago. Yeah. Something like that. And we bumped into someone here who was very cross about them putting up a mobile phone mast or mobile phone masts all over the place and of course this is nothing compared to what we are led to understand is the five gs hell that is due to be rolled out if we don't watch it.
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  Anyway
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  she said to me, will you sign our petition? I said, yeah,
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  and
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  then she said we're off to go and see the local MP. So I went with her
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  and a guy that came with us and it was really funny because
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  the guy that came with us started to explain certain technical things to the MP
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  and the MP was actually he was not really interested very much
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  but he promised to do it and he said he turned to rather short-tempered he said what what are you a scientist? And he said yes a nuclear physicist and he was.
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  We took a nuclear physicist to meet him, he actually taught at top level university,
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  he understood everything about it.
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  Technical explanation is fantastic and he said here's a 45 page report on the damaging effects of these things. It was just brilliant and this guy was great, wonderful, a very sort of laconic dry
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  communication style deadpan.
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  So rather boring you know in the way that academics often can be but with a glint of sarcastic humor in some of his comments and it was that was just the best bit of the thing. What are you? Like a particle physicist?
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  Yeah!
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  That is exactly what!
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  Meeting.
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  Oh.
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  So
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  that was That shut him up pretty quick, didn't it? It was a quiet, tough moment in the office there, you know, for ten seconds. So
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  that was good. Let
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  Unknown: me bring into the arena here something that I just finished watching this morning.
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  Our good student and oft contributor
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  Daryl,
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  who he and I trade a bunch of stuff, sent me this the other night and he said, Have a notepad with you
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  when you watch it.
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  And the title of it, I'm gonna post it on today's show notes, okay, for those of you who don't have a pencil and paper, you can go get it off a cast box,
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  but the name of it is Globalist
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  Warlord
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  Dead,
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  Big
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  Win
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  for Patriots.
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  Now I popped you this video this morning for the show, Paul, and I know without asking that you haven't had a chance to watch it.
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  There's some fascinating
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  information in this on how deep this thing goes and ties in with you guys through the aforementioned
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  Privy Council, by the way,
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  and
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  what they're doing to steal patents and commandeer the whole war machine,
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  and how they do it, and they've been caught at it, and the main guy that was one of the main guys that ran this from the '40s
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  just died, and that's what this is about. They call him Yoda.
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  I'll take Darrell's suggestion now that I've watched it and say that it's highly advised viewing for anyone in our audience that thinks like we do,
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  a very very damning video.
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  It all comes right out of
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  some companies Space form.
• 25:56
  The
• 25:58
  SES and that
• 26:00
  I can't remember the other company that literally
• 26:03
  owns all the defense companies and everything else and it all ties back to Queenie Baby,
• 26:09
  who I did send you a video that she is related
• 26:12
  to the forty third
• 26:14
  generation
• 26:15
  from Muhammad.
• 26:19
  It's on that Robert Seffer video and he lists all the 43 generations there and I tip just when
• 26:27
  in the video time wise and stuff.
• 26:29
  Now the other thing that came out of one of these Robert Seffer videos
• 26:33
  in the last night or two when I've watched a few
• 26:37
  is amazing, and it's talking about Nefertiti.
• 26:41
  Now,
• 26:43
  pretty much everybody in our audience, I think, knows Nefertiti
• 26:46
  was an Egyptian queen
• 26:49
  and
• 26:50
  her bust and whatnot
• 26:52
  from the shoulders up and stuff
• 26:55
  used in all kinds of jewelry and iconic things.
• 26:59
  And then when they got into their genealogical
• 27:01
  studies,
• 27:02
  I mean these statistics
• 27:04
  threw me for a loop. 50% of the white males in Europe are related back to King Tut and this line
• 27:11
  and 70%
• 27:13
  of British males. 94%
• 27:20
  British men are related to Tutankhamun. Okay and yet when they go do the genealogical
• 27:26
  studies on Egyptians,
• 27:29
  only 1% of them have the gene.
• 27:34
  Unknown: That's because those Egyptians didn't build that ancient civilization.
• 27:40
  They didn't, you know. Well, hey, that's some
• 27:44
  Unknown: pretty interesting statistics from this new
• 27:47
  genealogy
• 27:48
  science realm
• 27:50
  that are real hard to argue with.
• 27:55
  Unknown: Yeah, they are. You know, I've still got people who call me up and go, all life came from Africa. I'm going, I didn't. And
• 28:01
  you know, it didn't. In fact, there was one, I think there was a science report last year in Germany from a German science mag based on somebody, some bones that they found in Russia saying, uh-oh, this is so much older than anything we found in Africa.
• 28:15
  Unknown: So you know I've
• 28:17
  mentioned it to the audience before, this guy Robert Seffer, S E P E H R, he spells his name a little unusual,
• 28:26
  is an anthropologist
• 28:28
  done for a middle aged man, which is what he appears to me to be,
• 28:33
  this guy has done some incredible work and a great
• 28:37
  amount of it to this point that we can access on YouTube.
• 28:41
  And the videos are generally short, ten, fifteen, twenty minutes, usually at the max,
• 28:47
  and you can tell from his bent that he thinks like we do. He can't come out and say that stuff,
• 28:54
  but he can put it in different old
• 28:56
  films and stuff he puts in his videos that get the ideas across and he doesn't have to say it in the title.
• 29:03
  The one on hidden history,
• 29:06
  which was the whole presentation by Barry Chamish on the Sabbateans,
• 29:11
  he didn't mention any of that in the title or anything else, it's just there.
• 29:16
  So he's got a plethora
• 29:18
  of videos to delve into and you can go and put Robert Seffer in YouTube in the search, that's S e p
• 29:27
  e h r,
• 29:29
  and find
• 29:31
  a vestibule
• 29:32
  of hidden facts and knowledge.
• 29:37
  Unknown: Yeah, he's a good guy, he's doing some
• 29:39
  does it in a gentle way and you're right and you don't have to be necessarily contentious or have
• 29:47
  aggressive type headlight in videos, not if you want to YouTube.
• 29:52
  But that said, know,
• 29:54
  there are other things coming along to avoid YouTube but it's all a matter of actually reaching people and planting seeds effectively so what's the point of going in with all guns blazing on people who don't really have a context for understanding what you're talking about?
• 30:09
  Unknown: We're clipping on each other. I'm I'm sorry. I've
• 30:13
  learned that lesson the hard way of you go up and you find somebody that may be interested and you start, oh hell, there's somebody that wants to know so you unload on em, you know? It's like taking a drink of water out of a fire hydrant or wanting a little bit of dirt and having the whole dump truck dumped on you, you know? And unfortunately,
• 30:31
  sometimes you lose people there. So, I caution people. That's why I say, just little teasers, you know? Little teasers.
• 30:38
  Chris has joined us such as, I. E, are you a citizen of The United States or are you a citizen of The United States Of America?
• 30:46
  If somebody asks you if you're a resident,
• 30:49
  your response, you know, always answer a question with a question,
• 30:53
  resident? Are you imputing a geographical or a political definition to that term? Well, you'll stop a bureaucrat dead in their tracks with that answer.
• 31:01
  Okay?
• 31:04
  Hey, Chris. How you doing, buddy?
• 31:08
  Unknown: Reasonably well. Thank you very much. Otherwise, a little waxed days ago, we're getting in on time this morning. No, it's okay, man. We're we're we're informal around here.
• 31:20
  Unknown: So did anybody
• 31:21
  else want to take this? You got something on the tip of your tongue? I think the
• 31:25
  false flag aspect of this Paris thing is
• 31:28
  real important because obviously
• 31:31
  they're trying to accomplish one main thing and they're trying
• 31:35
  desperately do anything to shut down the yellow vest movement.
• 31:42
  Unknown: Well, yeah, I think that's obviously must be directed at, don't you think? Yep. To try and discourage them, you know, or to
• 31:49
  fight back as it were. No.
• 31:52
  Every I time you see that little microbe Macron,
• 31:55
  Macron the microbe,
• 31:57
  mean good grief, what a revolting little sack of audio he is, there's just something about his face, any normal man would want to just hit it just for existing life.
• 32:08
  What do think? Yeah, think I might just be sort of foul.
• 32:12
  Think
• 32:13
  Unknown: just wound up.
• 32:15
  They're trying to do Me? Because the yellow vest movement
• 32:18
  has the total support, pretty much, of the French people, that's what's generating it. They're trying to take that incident
• 32:26
  and turn it against the yellow vest from French people.
• 32:30
  They're trying to shift public opinion with this little stunt,
• 32:34
  and the reason for it is not only their own backyard,
• 32:37
  but yellow vests are popping up in London, yellow vests are popping up in Italy,
• 32:42
  yellow vests are popping up in The United States not many, I grant you, but the seeds are there.
• 32:53
  Unknown: I have one in the back of your
• 32:57
  Unknown: You got one in the back of your car. Car. Well, you're in France, you'd have to have one, Chris, it's by law.
• 33:02
  But you could see where this you mentioned earlier that
• 33:06
  battle
• 33:07
  you can see the early signs of the battle. Wasn't that your comment, Paul,
• 33:13
  to that effect?
• 33:14
  Well, yeah,
• 33:15
  that's what this is right here. That's them saying, We'll go to this length and have to go to this length to try and turn this overwhelming
• 33:24
  tide that's coming at us from the grassroots.
• 33:27
  Even in this video this morning that I just was talking about,
• 33:32
  global
• 33:33
  nationalist,
• 33:34
  warmonger dead, even the guy that's interviewed in there who was one of the guys that evidently
• 33:39
  had the original idea of Facebook that they stole,
• 33:43
  okay?
• 33:44
  And he said the patriot community, and that's his words,
• 33:48
  patriot community, I'd like to rephrase that as the awareness
• 33:51
  community is getting so large that they're having trouble controlling,
• 33:56
  maintaining their control.
• 34:00
  Unknown: That's good news, that's good Well, that's kind of
• 34:04
  Unknown: Well have kind of lost control I think you know, so that's why these
• 34:09
  it's almost like Tula everything that they do now
• 34:12
  is being seen by an ever growing number of people as being a sort of an artificial response or bogus from the start and so the whole atmosphere
• 34:21
  is that they're dealing now with a much more skeptical
• 34:24
  people who will not swallow things. There's sufficient number
• 34:28
  of well informed skeptics, if skeptic is the right word, but you get the drift, that
• 34:34
  we as a body of opinion formers or opinion leaders in communications and conversations,
• 34:41
  they're gonna have a real problem. I've always said that the way that you know an aspect that we would fight back is not like with
• 34:47
  an organized army in one location, but it's more like damp
• 34:51
  in a building.
• 34:53
  We're just gonna break out like fungus all over the place and they go, oh it's broken out here, it's gonna be everywhere you know and there won't be any one specific target. You go, well if I take this wall out, will we get rid of it? No, because it's right in the fact we've
• 35:04
  got to get back in the foundations of things, that's really what all this research is. Well, you know what they fear the most is leaderless cells.
• 35:15
  Well, think went naturally That's
• 35:19
  Unknown: quite natural to do it. I'll tell you what else they fear, they fear this information getting into copious amounts of people's hands,
• 35:27
  okay, because this neuterism,
• 35:29
  and I still think, I don't know if you've had a chance to touch base with John or whatever, but after the conversation we had on Dennis' show the other day with your mates there,
• 35:40
  I think that that common law birth certificate does the same thing that an affidavit affidavit to our Secretary of State, it's a little more formal, we've got a little different structure because of the fourteenth Amendment,
• 35:50
  but I think that the common law birth certificate does exactly the same thing the affidavit does,
• 35:57
  which is rebut the presumption.
• 36:00
  Everything is run on a shift in the presumption law,
• 36:04
  and they run it just like it's there until they're confronted with something factually that exposes the fraud, and they've got to recognize it, or they've got to take the mask off. Those are their options
• 36:16
  and they don't want to take the mask off, have you noticed?
• 36:22
  Unknown: No, they don't want to do that. They're hanging I mean all these actions are a bit like the
• 36:27
  it's getting close, know, this is not a very good analogy, but it's a bit like that thing that you don't want to confront a wild dog at the back end of an alley with nowhere for it to escape.
• 36:37
  You don't want to do that, that's not good because you've no
• 36:42
  gonna be like. It's gonna get more and more unpredictable the more it senses that it's trapped and in a corner.
• 36:47
  You need to get a powerful and nasty, well that's kind of what we're at the situation we're in is that we
• 36:52
  know that the truth is with us purely because we've stumbled so much going two steps forwards, one step back to get to a clearer view of it and
• 37:02
  we can measure
• 37:03
  their behavior against it now, something that as a people we've not been able to do for an awful long time because they've been able to obviously control all those channels
• 37:11
  of information and give us a particular view of existence which obviously was to their benefit and not to ours.
• 37:17
  So that's kind of all these actions that they take are then getting more and more
• 37:23
  wound up. That doesn't mean to say I've got some sense of imminent victory over this, I actually think that this is think think this is just the the early stages of it
• 37:32
  and that there are other levels that they possibly go to but I still think that the main job is for us to keep spreading information and gluing more and more people on into
• 37:41
  whatever area
• 37:43
  they need to look at because there's so much work to do that it's not sensible or even realistic to think that any one person or even group of people could cover all these things and in a way that could be what's kind of saving us. The fact is that without some you know easily
• 37:59
  identified target for them to launch attacks against, The fact that this is disparate and all over the place is probably
• 38:05
  to our benefit for now, know.
• 38:09
  I'm
• 38:10
  sure it will coalesce at some point, it will quite naturally and we've got a few more false organizations
• 38:15
  to go through yet before it truly coalesces,
• 38:18
  Unknown: but it's coming. See, we don't win by our overt actions of defeating them.
• 38:24
  We win by stepping back and strengthening ourselves
• 38:28
  and letting their system
• 38:31
  trip all over itself and fall like it's always done,
• 38:35
  and it's going to do it again this time because they always press the envelope
• 38:39
  and when they press the envelope and deviate into some area,
• 38:43
  it's unnatural
• 38:44
  and it always swings around and bites them like the snake eating its tail. It happens in every one of the different vectors of their agenda,
• 38:52
  so
• 38:53
  our job to me now, and that's why I do what I do here, is to just sit here every day and put this information out. I'm very fond of saying, look, I'm a one trick pony, okay? My only trick is freedom,
• 39:06
  alright? And I'll get on here and I'll talk about different facets of it and different areas of it and different things that may affect it. Every day, I'll try and get new people and especially thrilled when new people coming to the show and the concept and being able to work with them and make sure they get as quick uptake
• 39:23
  and get up to speed on this as quickly as possible and they don't have to spend fifteen or more years doing it like I did.
• 39:34
  Unknown: Well, think it's a bit like
• 39:36
  it's just a sort of a it's like osmosis
• 39:39
  and
• 39:40
  if you're
• 39:42
  in the vanguard of a thing, if the thing works out, nobody really cares that you're in the vanguard of it. I'm afraid that that's what comes with the territory, you just feel compelled to do things and if we change the situation around or the situation changes,
• 39:56
  people will be running around acknowledging
• 39:58
  everybody, they'll be just too busy enjoying the benefits come and actually I think that's great. You know, I think that's appropriate. If you think about say like a business or any organizational culture,
• 40:08
  you have people you have people that start a business from scratch in their garage or wherever.
• 40:14
  So they start this thing and they get through the teething troubles of the first two or three years, which is usually the most challenging part, know and suddenly they get something rolling and they've got a bit of energy in the business and
• 40:23
  sales become a little bit easier or whatever and everything's improving slowly but steadily
• 40:28
  and they mature and develop and then a new person coming into that company say five, six, eight years down the line, they come in at the level that everybody's at that day, they don't go through all the
• 40:41
  scratching around when there was nothing available on the kitchen floor type situation, they don't do that. They just come in and step in right next to you at the level that you're at and take it forward. Well And I think that that's good that's the way it works, that's great, know, it's great. Let no, that video I sent you that I mentioned a minute ago
• 40:58
  Unknown: is all about that what you just said and how they take over these companies with venture capitalists.
• 41:07
  Unknown: Yep.
• 41:08
  Unknown: Exactly what you just said. When you're controlling that.
• 41:14
  I should quote the late and great Eustace Mullins
• 41:18
  who in one of his videos said:
• 41:20
  God was merciful on us and he gave us the Internet.
• 41:27
  Unknown: Well, yeah, he's given us enough
• 41:29
  chance to either hang ourselves by our own rope or
• 41:32
  get ourselves, you know, clear,
• 41:35
  there are more and more of us getting ourselves clear, so it's good. Is.
• 41:43
  It should not get defeated by media
• 41:46
  headlines,
• 41:48
  they're just brainwashing.
• 41:50
  They're just everybody's depressed. I'm not I'm really I'm fine what you're about.
• 41:54
  It's like this, you know, all this artificial emotion that's generated around these events that's been going on for the last two or three years. Everybody's walking around. We've got to mark this. We've got I'm I'm at home going, what are you doing? People used to you know bad things happen so we're not all gonna go crazy about this stuff
• 42:09
  and I'm
• 42:10
  sort of you know I'm keen to have a return over here anyway to British stiff over lip. Well that's very very bad but never mind we've got to move on you know.
• 42:19
  And you do, whether
• 42:22
  you think that that's harsh or not is absolutely irrelevant.
• 42:25
  Tomorrow morning's coming for all of us, gonna get up and do stuff, you might have a terrible time today but tomorrow we'll be here, it always is, so as far as I can work out it's never stopped not coming. So it's gonna be here, so there's always gonna be something to do and we do go through terrible things but recovery is always possible and
• 42:43
  that's both a great strength and a great weakness for us I suppose because it always gives us a slightly chirpy outlook
• 42:49
  but then sometimes we might not be as harsh on the causes of our
• 42:53
  own trouble as we ought to be because we're quick to move on. But that's the way that we are to some degree
• 42:59
  and
• 43:00
  yeah Europe's
• 43:02
  getting more and more
• 43:03
  combustible literally of course last week in France but it is
• 43:08
  on every level and obviously not without the other side I'm sure of that. Well now let me bring into just the
• 43:15
  Unknown: political side of this because you know, you and I have had this discussion
• 43:20
  that one of the guys I really like over there, and I don't know that I like all of his politics across the board, but I really admire
• 43:27
  and he's a tremendously
• 43:30
  charismatic
• 43:31
  guy, that's the word I want, and that's Nigel Farage,
• 43:35
  and he started this new Brexit party and evidently it's already eclipsed the Tories in a week.
• 43:43
  Unknown: Yep.
• 43:45
  Well, it would,
• 43:46
  so we're told.
• 43:49
  You see, do I believe that? Is it important? Is any
• 43:52
  more politics what we want?
• 43:54
  I'm super cynical, I'm just looking at going so No, no, no, no, I just like him
• 44:00
  Unknown: as a purr, he's real charismatic and I like charismatic people and I used to love his
• 44:08
  Those UKIP speeches over there at the EU,
• 44:12
  I really used to like what he had to say because he usually quiet the whole damn house, man. We got a new phone number and I have a sense who this might be. 614,
• 44:22
  how you doing?
• 44:25
  Hey, Roger. It's Rob Nipps. Hey, Rob. That's who I thought it might be. You know, I I spoke earlier with these students. This is one of them right here. He's
• 44:35
  about as green as a twig, maybe not quite as green, but kind of twiggish, and we're glad to have him along, and I'm glad to grab your hand and see if we can educate you and get you up to speed real quick, Rob.
• 44:47
  How are you doing? It's the first time you and I have talked.
• 44:51
  Unknown: Yes.
• 44:52
  Is.
• 44:53
  Doing well.
• 44:55
  Actually, I'm in my car right now, so there's gonna be a little transition in my phone. I'm gonna be
• 45:01
  hopping out of my car and going into the house here in a in a couple of minutes, but I would definitely wanna get on and get as much as I could.
• 45:09
  So so yeah.
• 45:11
  Doing well. Doing well. Okay. Well, let me just Little froggy today. I had a rough night's sleep. I had a neighbor's neighbor's dog woke me up Oh. Really, really early this morning. So I'm a have to write a letter to a neighbor.
• 45:22
  Unknown: Are are you But other than that, I'm okay. You can get a dog shut up by writing a letter to a neighbor. Will you come down to Ecuador and help me a little bit, please?
• 45:32
  They don't they don't recognize
• 45:35
  those formalities
• 45:36
  here.
• 45:38
  Rob, we're happy to have you. And it
• 45:40
  just
• 45:41
  when I get new people in, know, especially
• 45:44
  people that you know that the information is registered with,
• 45:48
  you know, and you can tell pretty quick generally. And it just really thrills me. So I wanted to let you know that the audience, we got a lot of other good students and teachers in the audience on this, and that will will be at your disposal to help you get up to speed on it as quickly as possible.
• 46:08
  Unknown: Well, I have a lot of background in it. This, this all started I I kinda had my awakening,
• 46:13
  back
• 46:14
  when Obamacare was implemented, and I got a letter from my employer. And and, you know, like, the letter said that, you know, you either have to get insurance or you're gonna be fined. And that kind of that kind of really
• 46:25
  pulled the blinders off my eyes. That and nine eleven.
• 46:29
  So I've I've been really studying and searching for truth for the last five years.
• 46:35
  I withdrew my voters registration
• 46:38
  five years ago.
• 46:40
  I I've, you know, I've looked at all kinds of different sources. I've studied law. I've studied history. So I'm not as green as you might think.
• 46:49
  My my one issue that has that drew me to you, especially, was the passport issue because I do love to travel.
• 46:56
  And I feel we're gonna be truly free, then travel's part of that. So, you know, that that's what that's what drew me to you. But I do understand that there's a process you know, I understand due process of law and and
• 47:08
  what the fourteenth amendment did. I understand, you know, how it how it's still legally implemented and, you know, some kind of our throat
• 47:16
  made us all sick. So, you know, I I get a lot of this. A lot of this already have a background in, but, you know, I'm I'm just
• 47:24
  seeking truth. I'm seeking truth and freedom. So Well that's why I'm here. Well, I've been out here in this
• 47:29
  Unknown: rodeo about close to thirty years, and I've seen all the gurus pretty much and listened to most of the people, and I think you've tapped into about the raw stream of truth
• 47:40
  that we have for our
• 47:42
  people that think like we do on the face of the planet.
• 47:47
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 47:48
  Yeah.
• 47:49
  And and I'll tell you, Roger, I also
• 47:52
  you know, I've I've
• 47:55
  you know, I'm I believe in being transparent and honest, and, you know, one of the things that I've heard is,
• 48:01
  I've heard,
• 48:03
  well, just
• 48:04
  transparency and honesty, man. So don't take this as my words. It's just things I've heard.
• 48:10
  I've heard
• 48:11
  Raj is a con man or,
• 48:14
  you know, or delusional
• 48:16
  or whatever. And I don't I don't take those things to heart. It's because like I said, it's an exploration of truth for me.
• 48:22
  But, you know, that kind of stuff is out there. Well, doesn't make You know, may have some questions along Well, you you know, see, this doesn't center on me.
• 48:30
  Unknown: I'm not telling anybody to do anything. I've never told anybody to file one any of this paperwork.
• 48:35
  What my function is is to tell you you got a choice,
• 48:39
  and all I do is lay facts out in front of people and you go ahead and check them out and
• 48:44
  discern them and figure out how they fit into what you want to do, because it ain't Roger's choice, it's Rob's choice.
• 48:53
  Unknown: Yep. Exactly.
• 48:54
  Yeah. So there is some discernment, you know, with that kind of stuff. I think there's always there's people who are so set on,
• 49:01
  this way is the right way, and there is no other way. And I I don't believe that's I don't believe that's true. In most cases, I believe that there's lots of different ways. And, you know, as long as they're implemented lawfully and and we have, you know, a good sound understanding of the law and that kind of thing, I think that, you know, there's a lot of room for everybody to work together. And I just feel there's so many people that are stuck on one particular ideology or whatever that, you know, everybody
• 49:26
  Unknown: else is a kook or quack or whatever. So, you know, I buy into that. I can tell you that one of the reasons that we started this network, and, again, I tip tip my hat to Paul because we probably could not have done it without his help and assistance is to get away from all that crap because I had all kinds of people in our own community stealing from me and stabbing me in the back because they had more concerned about their pocketbook
• 49:49
  and their egos.
• 49:51
  And that's why we started this. Yeah. That's why I never asked. I've never asked any of you for one damn penny. I've never charged anything for what I've got out there except the book. If you wanna buy it and most people passed it around and didn't pay for it and that's okay with me. I don't care. Shane, Shane, the guy that's on with us right here. I used to make an offer. I said, listen, if you can't afford $4.99
• 50:14
  for an ebook,
• 50:15
  send me a sob story and I'll send you a free one. Now Shane could damn well afford $5 but he took me up on it to test me. Shane, did I send you an ebook?
• 50:26
  Unknown: Oh, yes. Yes.
• 50:28
  You did. Okay.
• 50:30
  Yeah. Therefore, I went out and bought three books.
• 50:35
  I sent one to Michael
• 50:39
  Roverero
• 50:40
  and and also I sent one to my sister,
• 50:43
  and I kept one.
• 50:45
  I
• 50:45
  I got no response from Michael Rivero
• 50:49
  and my sister answered. My sister just
• 50:52
  dumbfounded.
• 50:54
  I don't know what to say, and she brought it to my dad,
• 50:57
  my adopted dad,
• 50:59
  to him, and once again Now Rob we were very confused.
• 51:03
  Unknown: Rob no. Rob sorry. Go ahead. Now let me make his point to Rob because I'd forgotten about it. You need to know because you don't know this background.
• 51:11
  When Shane came to us, Shane is a mutt,
• 51:15
  and I don't say that derogatorily.
• 51:17
  Okay? He's half black, half white, and he was adopted, and he got an affidavit through.
• 51:26
  Unknown: Okay. Well Okay. I mean, that's that's
• 51:29
  pretty amazing. Yeah. I mean, you know, the affidavit the travel thing is is a huge importance to me. You know, the the passport issue and being able
• 51:39
  a important
• 51:40
  I
• 51:46
  Unknown: very
• 51:47
  I I
• 51:54
  Secretary of State
• 51:55
  if in a form admissible in a court of law that should be brought forth
• 52:01
  as the higher and better evidence. That's out of an 1835
• 52:04
  Supreme Court case and has never been overturned. It's still black letter law.
• 52:11
  Unknown: Right. Right.
• 52:13
  Yep. I understand. I that that's something I comprehended very quickly.
• 52:17
  It's not about the passport. It's about the affidavit that goes along with it. I I completely understand that. You know, law has been a law has been a huge interest of mine for most of my life and especially over the last five years.
• 52:29
  So
• 52:30
  Unknown: Well So, yeah, I get that. Okay. Well, sounds like you must have parked the car and got into the house. I'd like to tell you we're glad to have you, and I appreciate you calling in. And I think that you're gonna find Yep. Freedom here in your thoughts, life, and mind
• 52:45
  that you've been searching for.
• 52:48
  Unknown: Yep. I'm looking forward to it. I'm walking as free as possible right now. I know it's still technically, I'm a I'm still a subject and a slave to the system, the search,
• 52:59
  Unknown: technically. But in my mind, I'm free. Correct. So I just need to make that I need to be free by law. You gotta shift the what you gotta do is you gotta rebut the presumption and shift the presumption of law back to where it was and should be.
• 53:12
  That's that's in in essence. That's as simple as I can put it. They've shifted the presumption of law and it runs under that presumption until you officially, to the exact right person,
• 53:23
  in some sort of a correct form, rebut the presumption and then everything shifts back to you.
• 53:30
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 53:32
  Yeah.
• 53:34
  Understood.
• 53:36
  Unknown: It's amazingly
• 53:37
  simple and the simplicity
• 53:39
  of it shows you why they've gone to such lengths to obfuscate it.
• 53:46
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 53:47
  Unknown: Oh yeah. Because I promise you when they put this together,
• 53:51
  they knew
• 53:52
  what I'm gonna talk about and tell you right now,
• 53:55
  when they did Brown versus Board of Education,
• 53:59
  the trap was totally set.
• 54:01
  Brown versus Board of Education slammed the trapdoor
• 54:05
  and enslaved everybody into the secondary status. Now they knew that, they planned it and executed it to do that, and they knew damn well it was fraud, and they knew if anybody ever discovered it, that it's also the door to free everybody.
• 54:20
  And that's why people like Shane can get that affidavit in if they know what the hell they're talking about and do it correctly.
• 54:29
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 54:31
  I'm excited.
• 54:32
  Let me go.
• 54:34
  Unknown: Well, it it's real. It's real, Rob. You finally tapped into something that's real and solid,
• 54:39
  more importantly,
• 54:41
  that they
• 54:42
  recognize.
• 54:46
  Unknown: Well, that's that's the key.
• 54:49
  Unknown: Okay.
• 54:50
  So welcome aboard. Do you have any questions? This in
• 54:54
  Do what, Shane?
• 54:57
  Did you ask if I have any questions? Yeah. I did. Oh. At this stage, but Shane was gonna say something. Shane was gonna add something. I wanted to get what he was gonna say. I got a ton of yeah.
• 55:09
  Unknown: I have a ton of questions. So go ahead, Shane. Good. Go ahead, Shane. Get yours out of the way first. My my question is for Paul. Paul, now do they have the same type of scenario built
• 55:21
  up? Because I know that your particular political
• 55:24
  status is in
• 55:26
  the feudal system.
• 55:27
  Can you
• 55:29
  rebut the presumption
• 55:31
  and become a king in your land,
• 55:33
  Paul?
• 55:35
  Unknown: Well, I'm a king in my own mind.
• 55:38
  I don't know whether
• 55:39
  I don't know whether we've got I don't know whether that language applies here, I don't know whether there's a presumption that we've rebutt. They're all subjects, Shane, they're all subjects over there. Now, I think the common law birth certificate
• 55:52
  No, question. You
• 55:53
  Unknown: I believe that that common law birth certificate that John Smith is using up there rebuts the presumption, I think it does the same thing for you guys.
• 56:03
  Unknown: Yeah, well I tend to think that way as well, obviously I've not had a chance, I'll get around to it, everything has its own timing and there'll be a day when I wake up soon I'll go I must jump on that, but at the moment that day has not arrived recently because I know that they're grinding away
• 56:19
  at establishing certain sort of principles
• 56:21
  and getting things restored,
• 56:23
  but
• 56:24
  it's a slightly different structure over here I think or certainly the framework or the way of unpicking it is that we have got this, we have an institution,
• 56:32
  a long held one called common law
• 56:35
  and
• 56:36
  it's effectively ignored,
• 56:38
  that's really in simple terms that's really what it is and if we choose to not ignore it anymore and restore it back to its primary position,
• 56:46
  then all other things can be resolved.
• 56:49
  But if we fail
• 56:51
  at that job, then we're not really going to be able to do that and so Paul,
• 56:55
  you
• 56:57
  Unknown: will be first. Shane, let me follow-up to that. You see, that's exactly what they've done in our countries, they've separated us from the common law. Yes. Okay? And that's what they've done in England and I think that's why that common law birth certificate is gonna work like a snap, Paul.
• 57:14
  Unknown: Well, yeah, it is because
• 57:16
  in principle it ought
• 57:19
  it ought to, to in the sense that it's a you see one of the challenges we've got is really is we've got a massive communications challenge and it's difficult to know how to overcome it. You know you were talking a little bit earlier Roger about getting,
• 57:31
  how can we put it, we've all gone through this, Getting excited in front of a neophyte about something and overloading them with too much information
• 57:38
  and I think one of the reasons why that
• 57:41
  it certainly doesn't happen with me anymore, that's true actually, I'm not sort of bragging, it just doesn't but
• 57:46
  it has done in the past because you get frustrated that people, you know, can't you see this? You know, that's going on. But if you look at where we've come from,
• 57:56
  we've basically for a thousand years
• 57:59
  over here anyway, for a long many many centuries, let's put it that way, we've been like mushrooms you know kept in the dark and fed bullshit and
• 58:07
  suddenly the the barrels come off, lights come in and people are all squinting and don't quite know what they're looking at. So getting slightly too excited
• 58:16
  with others is not really effective but it's been part it's understandable in a way
• 58:21
  in that suddenly
• 58:22
  every single bit of information in nearly all the spheres of public life turns out a lot of it to be shot through with so much lies
• 58:30
  as to be practically worthless and then of course the more you look at those things,
• 58:35
  a plan of control becomes,
• 58:38
  well it's revealed to you slowly but surely, sometimes instantaneously
• 58:42
  if you have a revelatory moment and some of us do,
• 58:46
  and you suddenly go oh, oh it's like this and of course you're then involved in trying to show it to other people who,
• 58:52
  as we've said here before, if their lives are working pretty okay in this system
• 58:58
  are very very difficult to reach, they have no reason to listen to you because they say well my life's quite stable and this that and the other, but of course what's occurring now is fewer and fewer people are living stable lives. Yeah their oxes are
• 59:13
  Unknown: not gored yet, it's when you get your ox that your attention changes.
• 59:19
  Unknown: That's right, it's getting close. Taxes
• 59:23
  Unknown: are acceptable. Well,
• 59:25
  know, and Shane,
• 59:26
  that's why everybody used to use the tax emphasis and movement is because everybody's
• 59:32
  concerned with their pocketbooks,
• 59:33
  it's a common denominator,
• 59:35
  and once you get somebody in and can show them the fraud in the tax system, then you can enlarge it.
• 59:47
  Crickets? Crickets? You're still there, Roger. I think I am. I am, I believe. Yeah. Know you are. We're
• 59:53
  still attached that. We're still attached to the server. I wanna go over to some of Rob's questions if nobody else has got anything and and entertain some of Rob's questions because we got Bren on tomorrow,
• 1:00:04
  and we won't have a chance to do it then, I don't think. And so, Rob, what's on the tip of your tongue there that's got your mind tangled?
• 1:00:13
  Unknown: Oh my goodness, man. Where do I start? I don't know.
• 1:00:21
  So
• 1:00:22
  how much of this one of the questions that was posed to me when I was talking to somebody else about,
• 1:00:28
  talking with you was,
• 1:00:30
  dealing dealing specifically with the constitution.
• 1:00:33
  And, you know, there's obviously the constitution as organically
• 1:00:36
  established.
• 1:00:38
  And then there's the you know, everything after the fourteenth amendment is basically
• 1:00:43
  illegal and unlawful
• 1:00:45
  because of how the fourteenth amendment was implemented.
• 1:00:49
  So, I mean, when when we're talking about all this stuff, when we're talking about, you know, the remedy,
• 1:00:57
  you know, I can't I can't imagine that the the passport and the affidavit with the passport,
• 1:01:03
  like, I is
• 1:01:04
  I can't imagine that that's all encompassing. There has to be Well, no. There has to have it seems like
• 1:01:10
  Unknown: Okay. You've studied law and you mentioned a specific phrase earlier, due process of law.
• 1:01:16
  Due process is notice and the right to be heard.
• 1:01:19
  Okay?
• 1:01:20
  But they control from the Our community has always tried to fight this from the bottom and they got layers and layers and layers of bureaucrats, judges, lawyers, prosecutors
• 1:01:30
  that have their pension and their future wrapped up in defeating and obfuscating what you're trying to do. So we're trying to work up through all these layers of self
• 1:01:42
  caring about their own self interest bureaucrats
• 1:01:45
  that have one thing in common, and that's defeating you.
• 1:01:48
  If now that we know to the top
• 1:01:51
  is where they control the fish rots from the head down,
• 1:01:55
  they control from the top down, the whole system is designed like that, we're trying to fight it from the bottom up, can you see why we've had so much success?
• 1:02:04
  Okay, so what you do is you go up to the top now that we know what to do and you sever the jugular vein up there.
• 1:02:11
  Then
• 1:02:11
  you take due process now that it's shifted over in your favor
• 1:02:16
  and you go do things like you live in a fairly small town south of Columbus, Ohio, right?
• 1:02:24
  A little north of Columbus, Ohio. Oh, no. It's a yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, what you do is you go over to your property records office. Once that, you could do it before or after,
• 1:02:34
  but you go to your property records office and you file your affidavit in the property records office. Why do you file it there? Because that's where the IRS files liens, baby.
• 1:02:44
  Okay?
• 1:02:46
  Unknown: And you go and Okay. So would that be like I don't currently
• 1:02:50
  Unknown: own property. It doesn't matter. No, the property
• 1:02:53
  Unknown: don't own house, I
• 1:02:55
  Unknown: own land. Okay. Alright. Well then let's go back and step back. Gonna regroup. Hold on. We're gonna No.
• 1:03:01
  Let's we gotta stop this and regress so you understand what you're talking about. K. Okay? Property
• 1:03:07
  and legally
• 1:03:08
  is a is a right of ownership.
• 1:03:11
  It's not a thing. The right thing a thing. A car is a thing. A dog is a thing. Okay?
• 1:03:17
  So they have a right of ownership in you, and that's evidenced by the fact that when the IRS files a lien, do you think it's on the house? Well, it's not. It's on you.
• 1:03:28
  And when you put it in the property records office, you're rebutting that presumption
• 1:03:33
  with due process because that's public records in your area and nobody's going to object.
• 1:03:41
  Okay?
• 1:03:42
  So that's one thing you do. Now after that's done, you write a nice little cover letter and you go down and even maybe personally deliver it with a copy of my book if you feel so motivated
• 1:03:53
  is to go to your sheriff and you deliver it to him, and you tell him this is on file with the Secretary of State, it's on file locally in the property records office, and if any of your deputies mess with me, they're outside of their delegated responsibilities,
• 1:04:09
  and I'll hold them personally responsible.
• 1:04:14
  Unknown: Okay. K.
• 1:04:16
  Unknown: That was a lot. I I'm that was a lot to say, but I get it. Okay. So I I understand with the sheriff's department. Now what about with the, like, police department? Well, that's same thing. Go to your chief of police. Do the same thing. Okay. If you wanna sleep good at night and you wanna know that your i's are dotted and your t's are crossed, these are the things I suggest that you do. I don't ever tell anybody to do anything.
• 1:04:42
  Unknown: K. Yeah. No. Obviously.
• 1:04:44
  You get that?
• 1:04:47
  Yeah. I I I just wanna make sure, you know, I just wanna make sure that all my bases are covered because, you know, you hear about you hear about people who have been
• 1:04:55
  have tried patriot mythology and are locked up in federal prison because, know, they're they're they're trying to find a source. There's a bunch of it out there, and people like Tim Turner
• 1:05:05
  Unknown: that have been out charlatizing
• 1:05:07
  around the country have thrown a lot of mud muddy mud in the water for people like me who are trying to get people free. You know, I I thanks Darryl. Darryl sent me this a while back. I would like to take it up as part of my mantra, and I don't wanna steal it from the lady, Harriet Tubman. Remember who she was, Rob? The Underground Railroad?
• 1:05:29
  Oh, yeah. You know, her statement was, I freed a thousand slaves,
• 1:05:35
  and I could have freed thousands
• 1:05:38
  more
• 1:05:38
  if they only knew they were slaves.
• 1:05:42
  Yep.
• 1:05:45
  Unknown: That's the big problem.
• 1:05:47
  Unknown: That's the big problem. And see, you gotta you gotta twofold thing here is you gotta go up to somebody that knows you know a little bit of law. These guys you're talking to probably know none. Okay? And you're going up and telling them they're a piece of property
• 1:06:00
  and that we're in the feudal era and they go, hell, I better get this guy out of here. He's nutty as a fruitcake.
• 1:06:08
  Unknown: Right.
• 1:06:11
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:06:11
  Yeah.
• 1:06:13
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:06:14
  So that's why I go back to you learn this stuff. And when you started hitting me with questions, you're asking me with all kind of questions. You hadn't even got a copy of the the book yet. I said, learn the material.
• 1:06:25
  You know? Ross,
• 1:06:26
  the reason I did. I had had I
• 1:06:30
  Unknown: had listened to I'd already watched the science of law on YouTube, and I did get the I did get the ebook, and I had already started reading.
• 1:06:40
  But a lot of it a lot of it tied in with other stuff that I've already learned.
• 1:06:44
  So you know? But it's just it's it's new information that, you know, is presented a different way. And so, you know, there was there was exciting stuff because now,
• 1:06:53
  you know, one of the things that I really appreciate appreciate about you is that you you make it very easy to understand.
• 1:06:59
  You know, it's not in real technical terms. It's, you know, it's it's very
• 1:07:03
  layman's terms, and I really appreciate that. So and when I find something like that, it correlates with everything else that I've been learning. I I get really excited and, like, all the questions just start popping out. And but but, yes, I had already listened to science of law before I
• 1:07:18
  before I started asking questions, or I was asking questions while I was watching.
• 1:07:23
  Unknown: Well, Rob, it only I had a the book. I'm very blessed. I had a absolutely
• 1:07:28
  saint of a teacher. Okay? And I was a very good student.
• 1:07:33
  Okay.
• 1:07:35
  I can tell you, as I've told the audience, the audience knows this, you probably don't. John and Glenn had 1,200
• 1:07:42
  students that paid to go through that course,
• 1:07:44
  okay, and they were only teaching it for six months. They had 1,200 students.
• 1:07:50
  I was the only one that took the information further.
• 1:07:55
  Now,
• 1:07:57
  I've analyzed that Well,
• 1:07:59
  I've analyzed it for years, you see, and this is the only conclusion I could come up with. The 1,199
• 1:08:06
  people were in there to get away from something, and that's the tax man.
• 1:08:11
  I was I didn't have a tax problem till I got into this but I had a curiosity
• 1:08:16
  that had been with me since I was a teenager that something was wrong and I was always on the lookout for answers
• 1:08:23
  and I found an answer, and when I found it, I continued
• 1:08:27
  tugging on the string,
• 1:08:29
  and it took me twenty five years
• 1:08:31
  to be able to understand it enough to simplify it to where your complement
• 1:08:36
  really gets traction,
• 1:08:38
  because it's in the simplicity, and I preach this to the audience, everybody that's a regular here knows this, you've heard it, okay? The key here is getting this simple where it's easily understood and you can pass it among people. The right ones will respond,
• 1:08:55
  they'll pick up the ball and dribble and learn the rest of it, but it's got to be presented simply.
• 1:09:02
  Unknown: Yep. Yep. Agreed.
• 1:09:05
  Yeah. I really appreciate that. So thank you for that.
• 1:09:09
  But, yeah, the the questions were coming from,
• 1:09:12
  you know, years of not nearly as long as you've been studying, but my, you know, five years of study and searching for truth and knowing that there was something wrong. So,
• 1:09:23
  you know, my my issue isn't a tax issue. My issue is that I I just wanna be free. I wanna be completely free.
• 1:09:29
  I wanna be able to do the things I wanna do without, you know, without having to worry about being
• 1:09:36
  locked up or fined or any of that stuff. But, you know, and, of course, there's a level of responsibility
• 1:09:41
  with that. You know? You're Well, it's a duty. You gotta abide by natural law. Well, you're getting right. You got correlative duties.
• 1:09:49
  Yes. Absolutely. With great with great freedom comes great responsibility.
• 1:09:54
  Correct. And, you know, I'm I'm a I'm a very, very responsible person. I'm I'm,
• 1:09:59
  self governing.
• 1:10:01
  You know, I am a Christian. I've been a Christian most of my life. And so, you know, I've got, you know, I've got god's law and,
• 1:10:09
  that that's what governs my life. You know? So I don't need man stepping in and telling me what I can and can't do if there's no victim involved. And and so for me, that's really what it's about. I wanna be able to travel. I wanna be able to You got you're a single dad. Be able to
• 1:10:24
  Unknown: You're a single dad. Right? Yep. Have you had a chance to hear any of the shows with Brent yet?
• 1:10:32
  No. Okay. Well, you tune in tomorrow, man. You're a Christian and you're a common law guy. I'm a give you I'll I'll plug Brent a little bit. Commonlawyer.com,
• 1:10:42
  and he and I have been doing shows on Friday, and we've only missed two or three in five years,
• 1:10:47
  and he is one of the greatest gifts God has sent me since I started this, is Paul English and Brent Winters, Okay? There's a whole bunch of others that fit in that category too, but these two guys are exceptional. Okay? Brent Winters is an exceptional
• 1:11:04
  individual human being.
• 1:11:09
  Unknown: You skipped out a little bit. Brent Winters, what what's his relationship
• 1:11:13
  Unknown: to the show? Well, we started doing I'll tell the story.
• 1:11:18
  About five years ago, another attorney in the Freedom Movement named Larry Beecraft,
• 1:11:23
  I assume you've heard Larry's name.
• 1:11:26
  We were on the same network
• 1:11:27
  and he used to have a Saturday show and he'd send out an email every week on who he was going to have on. And he said, I got this guy, Brent Winters, on who's an expert in the common law.
• 1:11:38
  Unknown: Now see, I realized that we were shifting Oh, this is Brent, the common lawyer, this is
• 1:11:43
  commonlawyer.com.
• 1:11:44
  That's right. Okay, got you. And
• 1:11:47
  Unknown: so I thought my original Sorry, idea I'm sorry to interrupt. Okay, that's okay. My original idea was to get Brent and my teacher, John Benson, together because these two guys know more about the common law than anybody I've ever met, and to get them on a regular program together. And John was real sick, he'd been real sick the whole time, but he died, you know, and that never happened. But Brent and I had those shows, and there's so much chemistry that we both of us love them and it's the audience's favorite show of the week. So I encourage you to tune in tomorrow and as you're going back through those cast box archives,
• 1:12:22
  if you want to key in on some of those Friday shows,
• 1:12:25
  I don't think I've ever done a bad show with Brent Winters.
• 1:12:31
  Unknown: What time are those shows on? Same time.
• 1:12:35
  Okay. Eleven to one. And
• 1:12:38
  Unknown: those are archived in chat box office? Correct. The last three or four months of them. Okay.
• 1:12:47
  Okay. Great. That's a big interest to me. Okay. So you'll enjoy that. And you really Brent's just a fine guy, and he's got great information. He's already written a book on the common law, by the way, you can order that everybody raves about.
• 1:13:00
  So any other questions, Rob, or anything else pertinent that other folks wanted to jump in and add?
• 1:13:09
  Unknown: You know, I'm I'm sure I have more questions, but right now, I'm just Okay. Well I just wanna kinda get acclimated with the group and Good. And
• 1:13:17
  hear what's going on so that and I'm I know there's gonna be questions along the way. Okay. Let's do this, Rob. But I I also I also I also feel like I need to get through the book before I start asking a lot of questions because your statement was that a lot of these questions are answered by reading the book. I feel like maybe I should just really dig into the book and and get that thing finished and write down questions as I go. What I've been doing. When the book was released, I got two emails two weeks after the release of the book, almost to the day. I got them in the same day. One
• 1:13:48
  Unknown: was from a guy that I got to be pretty good friends with who's who Jim Bram who I've turned you on to because y'all are in the same area. He knew this guy because they were both cops. See?
• 1:13:59
  And this guy was from South Florida. He had been a homicide detective in Naples for twenty years and it was in that period of his career that he started noticing the inconsistencies,
• 1:14:09
  like the two sets of law books in the law library and stuff. And so when I came out, he bought my book and this is what his email said.
• 1:14:17
  He said, he gave me his background, he used to be a research team leader for a guy out of
• 1:14:23
  Oklahoma named Metter that was really highly respected, did a lot of administrative
• 1:14:28
  and regulatory research work, and he was one of his research team leaders, okay, Jim Prentiss is his name, and Jim wrote me this email he said, Roger,
• 1:14:38
  your book's a masterpiece.
• 1:14:40
  I've read it 10 times in two weeks and I got something different out of it every time.
• 1:14:51
  Now the other email I got was from a family in, I believe, Wisconsin
• 1:14:55
  who said, Roger,
• 1:14:57
  we want you to know
• 1:14:59
  that your book is on our family bookshelf
• 1:15:02
  next to the Bible.
• 1:15:07
  You want to talk about humbling?
• 1:15:09
  You want to talk about humility?
• 1:15:18
  It's a life changing book, I
• 1:15:21
  Unknown: appreciate that you've been in this so long, and I can still still hear you getting emotional about this stuff.
• 1:15:27
  I I
• 1:15:28
  that that means a lot. So
• 1:15:32
  Unknown: just so you know. Well, man, you get a comment back from somebody like that. Hell, that humbles you to the bone. Come on.
• 1:15:39
  And see, I knew the power of information because I've lived with it for so long, I've dissected it and put it together from the tax basis I was taught by John and Glenn, and I fought the IRS
• 1:15:51
  at federal court, and I got out of that with a little bit of skin left on me, and I said, hell, there's gotta be a better way to do this,
• 1:16:00
  and that's what we got today.
• 1:16:07
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:16:11
  Unknown: so far, I'm appreciative.
• 1:16:14
  I got a lot of reading left to do, but so far, I'm appreciative, man. I I really appreciate the effort and the work you've put in. Thank you. I sure hadn't been paid. I sure hadn't been remunerated for it. And
• 1:16:25
  Unknown: and
• 1:16:27
  Unknown: and I was just about to say, and the fact that and the fact that you're not asking people for money
• 1:16:33
  to give this information, because one of my first experiences
• 1:16:37
  in this in my search for truth and freedom, one of my first experiences with a guy who wrote a book called the Red Amendment. You
• 1:16:45
  know you know him. You know him. I can hear it in your voice. So I I figured him out pretty quickly. It took a couple of conversations with him to figure out who he was and what he was about, and I I
• 1:16:58
  stopped reading that book. Like, after reading probably 40 pages, I was like, wait a minute. That's not the interpreter. He he, like, was misinterpreting things, and I just quit reading it. And then I had a couple of conversations with him, and I figured out very quickly what he was. And I I I
• 1:17:16
  shut I cut him off.
• 1:17:18
  You know, I I heard you talking about somebody that you just stopped listening to a radio show that you stopped listening to, and I could completely relate. So that's another thing that I really appreciate about what you do is that, you know, I feel like freedom should be
• 1:17:31
  information
• 1:17:32
  about freedom should be passed along freely among free minded individuals, and I really appreciate that about you as well. So Well, you see, here's what I know is got this this the statement is freedom isn't free.
• 1:17:43
  Unknown: Okay? Now, I'll give you, I'll lay a chain. Shane, did I give you the book, okay? But you see, then, Shane's gotta sit down and read it and up take the information.
• 1:17:53
  That's. Yeah. Where the that's what your sacrifice is for the freedom is. You gotta get your arms around the information.
• 1:18:00
  You gotta own it. Okay?
• 1:18:02
  You gotta own these basic Oh, it's responsibility. Absolutely.
• 1:18:07
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:18:08
  It's responsibility. It's great freedom. With great freedom comes response with great responsibility. So, yeah, I mean, you can't just
• 1:18:15
  you can't just rely on the work of somebody else. You gotta own it. You're right. So, yeah, I I recognize that.
• 1:18:21
  Unknown: So, well, we're glad to have you, Robin. What I'd suggest is go ahead and get through the book, and why don't you write your questions
• 1:18:28
  out
• 1:18:29
  and let's get you on the air and deal with them so everybody benefits from it.
• 1:18:36
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:18:38
  Unknown: That's my plan. I was a teacher for ten years.
• 1:18:41
  Okay? And there's a there's a saying in teaching that the only dumb question
• 1:18:46
  is the one that isn't asked.
• 1:18:48
  Unknown: The one you don't ask.
• 1:18:50
  Yep.
• 1:18:51
  Agreed.
• 1:18:53
  Unknown: Okay. Paul, what's going on, man? I don't want to marginalize you. You are our guest host here on Wednesday and now Thursday this week and everybody Just been doing
• 1:19:02
  Unknown: the washing.
• 1:19:07
  Good. Guys, listen to all of it. It's fine. I'm just washing my smalls. It's such a nice sunny day. So let's crack on with a few things.
• 1:19:16
  Unknown: Live in the Southern you told us you live on the Southern Coast, is that Sussex or what's your general geographical
• 1:19:24
  location over there? Yes, I'm currently in Sussex,
• 1:19:28
  Unknown: South Sex as it would be and there's Essex which was East
• 1:19:34
  Sex and
• 1:19:35
  what else there's quite a few actually, are there any others? Yeah, they're probably Wessex, obviously West,
• 1:19:40
  So sex is the old section sex from Saxons. So they They were having sex all over the country, weren't they?
• 1:19:47
  They bloody well were. That's how you like guys all ended up over there.
• 1:19:51
  There had to be loads of people here to get over there, didn't there? There was just tons of them spilling everywhere, know, just absolutely
• 1:19:57
  crazy.
• 1:19:58
  Those were the days, I don't know.
• 1:20:03
  Mean, literally, I don't know. So yeah. No. I'm I'm down here. It's fine. It's
• 1:20:08
  it's got a history of being a rather rambunctious sort of county. It's not my home county, I'm actually genetically connected to the North
• 1:20:16
  for all eternity and there you go, that's the way I'm built but it's not a bad place. We're not far from
• 1:20:22
  what's known as the South Downs and they're rather, you know, as you know England's rather small
• 1:20:27
  but it's cozy and
• 1:20:30
  getting a bit too cozy frankly.
• 1:20:32
  Unknown: Anyway, there we go. So yeah. Well, let me let me ask you, let me follow-up. Last week after the show, I watched video, another one of these Zephyr type videos where he played an old movie, and it was titled The Saxons.
• 1:20:46
  And when I watched it and viewed it, we talked about it last week. I sent you a copy, and I'd be really interested to get your take on that as to its historical.
• 1:20:56
  I mean, I feel certain it's probably true or they wouldn't have made that movie about it, but it was really interesting because a lot of the the crux of the battle for Britain in it was down where you are.
• 1:21:09
  Unknown: Yes. It was. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. There was a lot of fighting around here when the Danes came and all that kind of stuff and going all the way out to Wessex and places like that. So, yeah, we're going back quite a way. I wasn't around then, of course. I wasn't even Alfred.
• 1:21:24
  Unknown: Alfred the Great. Right away. Alfred the Great, the only King of England that they called the Great was the first one, Alfred according to that video.
• 1:21:34
  Unknown: Yeah, well that's because he was really. His daughter had a great hand in things though, she was, I can't remember her name, but she was tremendously
• 1:21:43
  contributive as well to the whole health of the nation. The reason why they call him great is that he basically,
• 1:21:49
  he codified
• 1:21:52
  the law
• 1:21:53
  in the most effective way and he's viewed I suppose as the founding king of common law.
• 1:21:59
  It's not that the laws didn't exist prior to him, they did but what he did was he marshaled them all together. So he sent emissaries, you got to remember we had a lot of kings, we had seven kingdoms over here, it's not a big place but you can't off squeeze a few kings in if you try and we did, there were quite a few and so they're always knocking 10 bells at one another,
• 1:22:18
  a habit that's just been transferred over to football matches now but they've been the nully fun, making all the fun out of it. But
• 1:22:25
  that's kind of the history of the nation really and yeah he just sent guys around all over England and said, hey, go and pick up the best laws they've got from every single part of the land and bring them here and let's go through them. So there you go, this was a he was a scholar, he was a he was a I mean his dad Yeah. Can't remember
• 1:22:42
  the name of his dad. His dad took him to Rome when he was about eight or nine and he was very impressed with the organizational
• 1:22:47
  structure of things and this made a big impression on him
• 1:22:51
  and so he, you know, but he was bright in many many disciplines. He was a bright guy and he was just the guy of the time so there you go. He was They
• 1:23:00
  Unknown: said in the video he was the youngest of five sons and he was real sickly and that all of his brothers died or got killed and that all of a sudden he's thrust onto the throne the the the King of England and he did a fantastic job. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
• 1:23:16
  Unknown: he did. Well, people used to die pretty young back then. Yeah. I think you managed to you're doing quite well, know, 36, you have you have that's it. You can forget it. So it's just fine. But I don't know whether that actually makes too much difference. You kind of think, I mean obviously it does, I'm not arguing to be dead at 36 that's not what I'm saying but you kind of feel that if you look at what many people had to go through their lives were probably pretty intense. Should imagine most of them did more living in thirty six years than many people these days do in eighty. You know in terms of well challenges that they had to face and what they were dealing with and
• 1:23:47
  so a much more, I don't know dynamically alive, you're much closer to life and death back then. It was
• 1:23:54
  didn't have people going running around sort of bleating about being a victim.
• 1:23:58
  It was like, well you better pick up sword and defend yourself because otherwise we're not talking about it, I'm just gonna whack you. Right. You know, so that's what it was all about back then. Yeah. They were pretty vicious according to the battles and all that history that went on to the forming of the country, man. There was a lot of bloodletting going on. The
• 1:24:15
  Unknown: interesting there was one interesting thing in there. When they talked about I mentioned it on the program. When they were talking about and I don't it was right at the tail end. It might have been around Alford, but after they'd made the deal with the Saxons,
• 1:24:28
  they hired them as mercenaries.
• 1:24:30
  They came over and helped them repel the bad guys. They stayed,
• 1:24:34
  they had an agreement with them, and they lived pretty comfortably under the agreement until it came to a bad harvest and they couldn't harvest enough food to pay off the agreement and the Saxons turned around and butchered them.
• 1:24:48
  Well,
• 1:24:51
  Unknown: it's just like going to the supermarket these days, isn't it? No, not really. But it was interesting why You should
• 1:24:58
  Unknown: see people remonstrating at the supermarket. Why did that happen? Because the serfs couldn't produce enough food. Hey, surfs.
• 1:25:07
  Surf's up? That's my mantra for the whole thing. Used to use it years ago. We ought to bring it back. Surf's up.
• 1:25:15
  Unknown: Thanks, Scoop.
• 1:25:17
  Yeah. It's alright. I quite yeah. I wouldn't mind being a yeah. Surf.
• 1:25:21
  Yeah. It's okay.
• 1:25:23
  You see, I just think it's to do with the spirit within which you embrace things. They can use their words and of course, they're gonna do it, but you can rebuff them, you can rebound them, you can make a joke out of them and they lose their power, don't they, to a great degree? They do. I mean it's a but a thousand years ago things were obviously very different so the
• 1:25:40
  things, I mean it's self evident, the things pressing down on people then would be very different from the concerns that we have today. I mean you know you had a livelihood situation back then just sort of existing was the big challenge. It's not really been a big challenge for quite a while but it has become a challenge existing spiritually
• 1:25:57
  and accurately
• 1:25:58
  in these days. That's become more of a challenge and so people become
• 1:26:02
  you might say well they live longer but do they are their lives more full? Do they grow in a healthy way? Probably not for a lot of people but
• 1:26:11
  who am I to say, maybe everybody's blissfully happy just consuming things off of Amazon and watching TV all day long. I can't see it myself, but you know, there we go. That's unfortunate. That is the lot of a lot of people.
• 1:26:24
  Unknown: It is. Hey, Chris. You've been mighty quiet. What's going on with you? Have you got any information on your passport delivery? No.
• 1:26:34
  Unknown: In fact, I'm sending out a
• 1:26:37
  couple of letters or faxes today to a couple of auspicious high level inspector generals of some of these so called agency
• 1:26:45
  who supposedly administer these oversight,
• 1:26:49
  these particular acts that they're supposed to do that they comply with according to their contractual
• 1:26:55
  terms, obligation,
• 1:26:57
  and, of course, their
• 1:26:59
  failure to provide honest services
• 1:27:02
  and supplicate in a timely manner is particularly disconcerting
• 1:27:07
  to guys like me and others seeking to get their passports as the, duck from
• 1:27:14
  I'd vouch for Barks. You bet your ass about that.
• 1:27:18
  I appreciate it.
• 1:27:20
  That
• 1:27:23
  was funny, man. A very clear point in my mind, I'll tell you.
• 1:27:29
  Unknown: That was pretty funny.
• 1:27:30
  Rob, you should know. Don't get scared by hearing Chris talk. I got two guys out there. One of them, you know, Thomas Maddox,
• 1:27:37
  they're having are getting kicked back a little bit from the Department of State, but I don't think this is across the board because both of these guys have real unusual situations.
• 1:27:48
  Chris, if you hadn't heard Chris before Yeah. What's the Well, Chris, how they've been they've been making his life miserable for years now out in Las Vegas.
• 1:27:57
  Trump Trump charges, throw him in a psych psych place for sixty days, all kinds of stuff. So he's an unusual
• 1:28:05
  he's an unusual applicant.
• 1:28:08
  But so don't get scared. Thank I'm just trying to give you a I'm trying to give you a little a little disclaimer here. Don't be scared.
• 1:28:17
  Unknown: Well, you read my mind. So but
• 1:28:20
  but so my question is, what what what is the what are the unusual circumstances?
• 1:28:26
  You know, I I could probably ask Thomas what his unusual circumstance is, but,
• 1:28:30
  Chris, what what are you Well, I the unusual circumstance for you? Well, I'll tell you Thomas'
• 1:28:35
  Unknown: Well Chris launches into it is he all the only when he went to his little town in Texas to do his application,
• 1:28:43
  you got to sign that application in front of an administrating official, and if there's not one there, you got to go in front of a judge.
• 1:28:50
  So they take you signing that document pretty damn seriously.
• 1:28:54
  Well, nobody even asked him for a picture ID. I don't know how he got application in, so he didn't have a driver's license, he didn't have a picture ID,
• 1:29:04
  he wasn't asked for one, and the only picture he included was the passport picture that he wants him to put on his passport,
• 1:29:11
  and they ask him for five more pieces of identification.
• 1:29:14
  That's not the first time that's happened, it is the second time, but that's his situation and that's unusual that you don't have the picture ID checked and somebody that's the administrating officer sign the application before it's sent in. Now Chris, he's got more problems than a Chinese trigonometry teacher. Okay?
• 1:29:35
  Unknown: Well, the core of the problem seems to be the enemies of freedom and liberty embedded within some of the agencies, particularly the FBI
• 1:29:44
  and some imposters
• 1:29:46
  masquerading
• 1:29:47
  FBI
• 1:29:48
  agents with local
• 1:29:50
  municipality
• 1:29:51
  locations
• 1:29:51
  and sheriff department staff and maybe
• 1:29:54
  even high politicals of the Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid,
• 1:29:59
  even Mitt Romney,
• 1:30:02
  John McCain.
• 1:30:04
  I was equal opportunity, Sunshiner, or these criminals running for office.
• 1:30:10
  And so I have a long list
• 1:30:13
  of who may have put me on the Department of Homeland Security FBI
• 1:30:18
  terrorist watch list as hot
• 1:30:21
  10
• 1:30:22
  p w a. Of course, the hot means the one eighty seven kill list.
• 1:30:27
  10 means I'm supposedly armed, dangerous, or kill police judges.
• 1:30:31
  TWA means terror watch
• 1:30:34
  And the eight supposedly means I'm protectionally,
• 1:30:36
  hypothetically suicidal,
• 1:30:38
  but I assure you there's no fact centric basis to support any of that preposterous nonsense whatsoever.
• 1:30:44
  And so I'm stuck with having to deal with that
• 1:30:47
  albatross
• 1:30:48
  being hung around my neck by my enemies trying to clear this kerfuffle up,
• 1:30:53
  with the state park get my go through it.
• 1:30:57
  Unknown: He's also got one major disability,
• 1:31:00
  Rob.
• 1:31:01
  He lives in Clark County, Las Vegas, Nevada, probably the most corrupt city in the country.
• 1:31:08
  Unknown: The Ninth Circuit, the corrupt judicial activist communist
• 1:31:12
  court system of America.
• 1:31:15
  Unknown: And they when they they bogus up they bogus up
• 1:31:20
  some paperwork and got him sent off to a shrink place up in Upper Nevada for how long were you in there, Chris? Thirty five, forty days?
• 1:31:30
  Unknown: About thirty, thirty one days up there. We were well, I was locked up through Christmas and New Year
• 1:31:36
  of twenty seventeen,
• 1:31:38
  twenty sixteen,
• 1:31:40
  and then they sent me up to the Lakes Crossing
• 1:31:43
  Nevada,
• 1:31:44
  400 miles away from my home place to move me from all my contacts,
• 1:31:49
  except
• 1:31:51
  the fact that fortuitously, I had a cold there, and some of the auspicious patriots around America called up
• 1:31:59
  freeway to be in on conversations
• 1:32:01
  on Rogers and some other radio shows. So we were able to get live on the scene broadcast and updates and journalistic
• 1:32:09
  investigative reporting from the psychiatric
• 1:32:12
  care class three prison center that I was locked up in there for thirty days. And turns out they were,
• 1:32:20
  Unknown: hearing about the calls, and, they were quite concerned. In fact, they were as anxious to get me out of there as I was to get out of there ultimate. We had him on the show one day for two hours, Rob, because he was in that place and he couldn't call out because it's like a prison. They got that phone in there, but you can call in.
• 1:32:38
  So he got us the number and we called him and had him on show for two hours one day and they couldn't get him out of that facility quick enough.
• 1:32:49
  Unknown: I bet.
• 1:32:51
  Unknown: That's that's a true story. That's a true story.
• 1:32:55
  Anyway, with the exception of Chris and Thomas Maddox,
• 1:33:00
  the only flack that we've gotten from the Secretary of State and the State Department
• 1:33:06
  was they'll send out a small percentage here a few years back of what I call a bluff letter
• 1:33:13
  and you've sent them an affidavit and you've sent them a passport application, they send you back this letter
• 1:33:20
  is always the same and it says, It appears by what you've submitted that you are a US citizen, and then they quote part of the fourteenth amendment and they go through some other verbiage and the last part of that paragraph says, Except by operation
• 1:33:34
  of law.
• 1:33:37
  Okay? And that and and that's what we would originally go back to. Vattel's law of nations lawful enough for you? Now, here's another thing. When all of you are talking to people out there and you're trying to get this across, this is new to me, maybe a year, and it comes from Al Addus. Have you run across Al Addusk in your studies, Rob?
• 1:34:00
  Who? Al Addusk.
• 1:34:05
  Evidently not. Oh. Al's Al's I don't think so. Well, he's out of Texas. He had a big deal number years ago because he beat the federal government in the state of Texas
• 1:34:14
  revolving on the word and,
• 1:34:17
  okay, man and other animals,
• 1:34:20
  and he went in the state of Texas had been prosecuting these colloidal silver manufacturers
• 1:34:25
  and they had their company in a trust,
• 1:34:28
  and they'd been after them five years,
• 1:34:30
  the federal government coming to Texas and the assistant attorney general of the state of Texas personally prosecuted that case,
• 1:34:38
  and towards
• 1:34:39
  the end, they brought in Al Atosk as the trustee
• 1:34:43
  and that enjoined him in the suit.
• 1:34:46
  So he went back, did his research, went back to the early part of last century when the original food and drug laws were written, and he found in there that it said they were applicable to man and other animals.
• 1:34:59
  He went in, had a meeting with the attorney's assistant attorney general of the state of Texas, and he said, I'm not an animal, I'm made in God's image, and they dropped the case, folded their tents, walked away after spending five years and more than $500,000
• 1:35:15
  prosecuting them.
• 1:35:17
  Okay? Now how does that relate to us?
• 1:35:20
  It relates to us like this, all persons born are naturalized in The United States, comma,
• 1:35:27
  and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
• 1:35:30
  It does not say all persons born or naturalized in The United States, comma, are
• 1:35:37
  subject to the jurisdiction
• 1:35:39
  thereof.
• 1:35:40
  If
• 1:35:41
  it's and, there's somebody that's and not.
• 1:35:46
  Got me?
• 1:35:48
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:35:49
  Yep.
• 1:35:51
  Unknown: That right there tells you the whole story.
• 1:35:57
  Unknown: One word, and. Yeah. So so that so in the fourteenth where it says
• 1:36:02
  so just just reviewing real quick.
• 1:36:05
  It says all
• 1:36:07
  Unknown: you know, everyone born No. Let's let's say it exact no. Let's say it. No. That's right, but let's you let's say it. You need to commit cutting out some words there. You need to commit that first
• 1:36:18
  sentence in the fourteenth amendment to memory. All
• 1:36:22
  persons born or naturalized in The United States, comma,
• 1:36:26
  are subject to the jurisdiction thereof. That ain't what it says.
• 1:36:33
  Unknown: Yeah. It says and.
• 1:36:35
  Unknown: And subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Correct. And when I when I tell and have people send that back when they get a bluff letter, I usually tell them to put even even a
• 1:36:46
  what's the hell's the name of the of the law college?
• 1:36:50
  Oh, who's the guy that got on the Supreme Court?
• 1:36:54
  The first one that drove everything in, Chris, the one in 1900 that Wilson put on the Supreme Court that was the beachhead for of not Frank Ferger,
• 1:37:03
  not Frank Ferger, the other one. Oh, you you found out that Frank Boushaber. No. No. No. No. No. This is Supreme Court Justice. It was the first
• 1:37:13
  Sabbatean Jew that opened the door for it.
• 1:37:16
  Brandeis.
• 1:37:17
  Uh-oh. And they've got a university named after him. Brandeis University,
• 1:37:21
  okay?
• 1:37:22
  And I tell people to put in there, even a Brandeis University law student would know the difference between and and are.
• 1:37:33
  I like to jab them, man.
• 1:37:41
  So, okay, we got a lot of crickets out there.
• 1:37:45
  Oh, yeah. I had to stumble on on coming up with Brandeis. It didn't come immediately
• 1:37:50
  but Rob,
• 1:37:52
  they've made Chris's Chris's life hell for a couple of years and he's trying desperately. He's gotten them all beat back in court pretty much and got a lot of this stuff, the presumptions
• 1:38:02
  rebutted
• 1:38:03
  but now he's trying to get a passport
• 1:38:05
  and he's getting a little bit of flack from him. So, we wanna find out why
• 1:38:09
  and we wanna see Chris get that passport and get the hell out of there.
• 1:38:17
  Even though even though all the girls at the country dance spots are gonna really miss him.
• 1:38:28
  Because he's our he's he's the Radio Ranch's John Travolta.
• 1:38:34
  Well,
• 1:38:35
  Unknown: I I take exception with all. There might be numerous that do, but I don't think all of them will. Oh, okay. Thanks for correcting me.
• 1:38:45
  Unknown: Chris, can you charge them for not participating
• 1:38:48
  in sending your your
• 1:38:52
  passport application?
• 1:38:56
  Unknown: That's all it is. Right? Passport application. Well, the question is if they don't send it, can you get them to send the money back?
• 1:39:08
  Unknown: Well, actually charge them for not
• 1:39:11
  fulfilling their duty.
• 1:39:14
  I don't know. Charge them for not participating
• 1:39:17
  in their particular I I don't scheme of
• 1:39:21
  Unknown: I don't know. As you said, they're either is or they're not. So I don't I don't know if there's would definitely I'm not sure if there's a lawsuit in there or not, Shane, but I do know that Michael, another one of our new students has joined us, your friend Michael Shane from out there in your area. How you doing, Michael? You wanna say hello to your fellow Englishman,
• 1:39:40
  Paul?
• 1:39:42
  Unknown: Hi. Good good morning, Paul. How are you doing? Good morning, Roger. Thank you. Good morning, Michael.
• 1:39:49
  So where are living, Paul? Are you in California or The UK?
• 1:39:54
  Unknown: California,
• 1:39:55
  I wouldn't be seen dead in California.
• 1:39:59
  My cousin's
• 1:40:01
  in California,
• 1:40:02
  the fool. No,
• 1:40:04
  I've never been to California and I don't think I ever will go anywhere. I'm completely an adventurous Michael. I'm not interested in going anywhere. The kitchen's big enough for me these days. I've just every time I look out into the world, think it might bother really. I'm on the South Coast
• 1:40:18
  down here so I'm fine. I don't really mean any of those comments. It's just that everybody's always so keen to travel, I honestly tell you, I'm just not. I just go, no. I don't need to do any of that.
• 1:40:29
  Don't need to in The UK, like, pretty much Southampton, somewhere like that? I'm I'm down in in a place called Worthing which is directly South of London, so I'm I'm directly down there, that's where I am. Oh, I got you. I got you. Alright. Yeah.
• 1:40:45
  Unknown: Okay. No left to London?
• 1:40:47
  Unknown: Yes. I never go. So you might be waiting quite a while for me to get the message through.
• 1:40:52
  So I I I tend to not go I tend to not go up there. It's a silly place
• 1:40:56
  and,
• 1:40:57
  yeah, getting sillier. So let's just let it keep on getting silly. But
• 1:41:02
  Unknown: How did how did you get to hold up in
• 1:41:05
  in to this information like Roger's
• 1:41:08
  Roger talks
• 1:41:10
  about on the show. How did you get aware about it in The UK and that? Oh, this is a good story. I I got into it.
• 1:41:17
  Unknown: Yeah, it's a huge story really, it's enormous. I got into it because I had a fight with the Bank of England back in the 1990s
• 1:41:25
  I also
• 1:41:26
  worked with someone
• 1:41:28
  from '93
• 1:41:29
  onwards, '94,
• 1:41:32
  who
• 1:41:33
  showed me how the world really worked
• 1:41:35
  in terms of the realm of financing and stuff and so
• 1:41:39
  my first few years were really just trying
• 1:41:41
  to trying to have a fight with the Bank of England,
• 1:41:44
  which is extremely silly and we weren't trying to pick a fight, we just wanted to get on and make everybody we wanted to get everybody out of debt, I was so Norman naive, it's not true but it was heady
• 1:41:56
  days of madness and stupidity
• 1:41:58
  and bottom kicking, unfortunately it was mine that got kicked but
• 1:42:02
  that was you know, that's kind of what was going on yeah, so I go back along
• 1:42:07
  well my path sort of quite long and
• 1:42:10
  windy and and all that kind of stuff. I mean what Rogers area is not the area that I'm necessarily an expert on, it's not even really where my prime focus is on,
• 1:42:21
  even though I know it's massively important but
• 1:42:24
  that's why Rogers here and other people their prime focus is on things like that. Mine's in slightly different areas and I'm
• 1:42:31
  particularly interested in just trying to develop the whole communication platform for the movement, whatever you want to call that is, but basically everybody has got a question mark on the front of their head,
• 1:42:41
  but we need more people just basically going no,
• 1:42:45
  show me the evidence with
• 1:42:47
  regards to everything
• 1:42:49
  and then that'll just pull them up short and go no I'm sorry I'm not doing any of that, no you can forget that, I'm not doing that either,
• 1:42:55
  prove it and that's what I say to everybody, prove it, you say that all these people did this, prove it please.
• 1:43:01
  Yeah. And they can't
• 1:43:02
  Unknown: I'm not able pay any debt on people's claim, yeah?
• 1:43:06
  Unknown: Hey Michael, let me ask you something. It's all fine, Michael. Let me ask Michael. When was the last time you were in The UK, Michael?
• 1:43:16
  Unknown: The last time I went is 2014.
• 1:43:19
  Unknown: Okay. Oh, it was great back then, Michael. Fantastic
• 1:43:23
  in in two two thousand thousand fourteen. '4.
• 1:43:25
  You gave a great time. I remember 2004.
• 1:43:29
  Unknown: It's absolute rubbish now. No. It's just it's probably just as bad as it was then. Well, I tell you, I mentioned earlier one day, the vision I get in London these days is clockwork orange.
• 1:43:41
  Unknown: No. Islamabad would be more like it, Roger. Okay. Islamabad.
• 1:43:45
  Okay. Okay.
• 1:43:47
  Unknown: That isn't that clockwork? Believe it's five years ago already.
• 1:43:53
  Unknown: Can't believe it's five years ago already. Sorry. Yeah. Five yeah. Time's going quick, isn't it? It is going fast anyway. There's lots of yeah. Loads and loads of
• 1:44:03
  loads and things just slowly collapsing with ever more rapid speed. It's it ultimately these days were always gonna come because you know you can't build anything substantial on a pack of lies and that's really what the country's built on for about forty or fifty years and so And and can they're coming home to roost you know, it's our job to make sure that they do.
• 1:44:21
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. And if I can just add to what Roger was saying yesterday or the day before about
• 1:44:27
  Tiger Woods,
• 1:44:29
  let's just digressing a little bit, but with whatever happens with Tiger Woods, to me, as far as I believe, it's all orchestrated. It's all by design.
• 1:44:37
  And with this not so damn thing in France, which is where I was in 2014
• 1:44:42
  on the Euro Tunnel coming out of London into France,
• 1:44:45
  reminds me all these fires and all done by,
• 1:44:49
  you know, these energy weapons that they use when it's all like a ritual
• 1:44:53
  on 09:11. So I think all of this is all by design. The sports that we watch, we think it's real, but it's all orchestrated
• 1:45:00
  by backed by, you know, the investors,
• 1:45:03
  shareholders,
• 1:45:04
  and the fires will create
• 1:45:07
  to do what you know, to bring in their little ritual or whatever it is. But I think this is how I think. And when once you mentioned that the other day, that's how I see it when they talk about Tiger Woods and suddenly come back and all that. It's all by this thing. Paul, did you I actually tried to watch that. I tried to watch that, but I I couldn't watch it.
• 1:45:25
  Unknown: I think because because they put it on in the earlier part of the day Yeah. I found the whole day boring. For the first time in years, actually I went this is boring, turned it off actually, I thought he's probably gonna win it or something and I thought am I bothered, I couldn't care less really. It lacked something, it's a pity really, it's a magnificent event usually,
• 1:45:42
  but I do think you're onto something really,
• 1:45:45
  I'm sort of I
• 1:45:47
  find most,
• 1:45:48
  not all, but most modern sports structures now tedious beyond belief.
• 1:45:53
  They lack the raw
• 1:45:56
  mess that used to make them fun, they used to be messy did sports, they used to be a lot more shocks and upsets, now it's all sort of it's almost as if you're watching computerized
• 1:46:06
  sport, there's something there's
• 1:46:09
  very little soul left in it if you know what I mean, so I just don't get too giddy about it. You go, wow, these athletes are amazing and I'm bored.
• 1:46:16
  I mean, when I watch football over here, I just go, wow, you're you're amazingly fast and quick and all that skill, and it's boring. I I want the old football where it used to be mayhem,
• 1:46:25
  and there was always that's what I want. I want that stuff. I want the crazy stuff, please. I don't want this orchestrated ballet. It's boring. Well, did you know that the their one betting house lost $2,000,000
• 1:46:36
  Unknown: that day?
• 1:46:37
  I read an article about another guy, this guy that had been, he's kind of a gambler type,
• 1:46:43
  and he scraped together $85,000
• 1:46:46
  and went
• 1:46:48
  to the bank, got $85,000
• 1:46:50
  and dumped it on Tiger to win and won 1,200,000.
• 1:46:53
  It was 14 to one.
• 1:46:58
  Unknown: Well, that's that's good
• 1:47:00
  for him.
• 1:47:02
  Unknown: But don't worry, the bookies will be making it all back again with this week. Oh, no No doubt. But you don't see booking houses lose very often, especially that substantially.
• 1:47:14
  Unknown: Yeah. Absolutely. Do know Well, I used to like watch you know, sports wise, Roger, I've
• 1:47:20
  I'm one of these people who bizarrely have always watched a lot of Formula One motor racing and I do accept
• 1:47:26
  that when people say but it's boring,
• 1:47:28
  I understand what they're saying but I haven't thought it that way
• 1:47:32
  for the last
• 1:47:34
  thirty years or so. I practically I barely missed a race since about 1984,
• 1:47:40
  seriously. I mean,
• 1:47:42
  but the last few years I've just stopped and the reason is there's an element of there used to be an element of sort of madness and unpredictable. If a sport has no level of unpredictability
• 1:47:53
  to it,
• 1:47:54
  it becomes pointless watching it and
• 1:47:57
  what we've got in that sport is a situation
• 1:47:59
  we've got it's same in professional football over here. There are effectively at the beginning of the season there's only three or four teams that could potentially win it and after about 10 matches you know that there's only two
• 1:48:10
  and the two or three that are gonna win it are the ones with the most money.
• 1:48:16
  And when they've got the most money they start off by buying the first great expert who then hires all the rest and it's inevitable. I mean I'm not blaming the situation, I'm just simply observing it for what it is.
• 1:48:26
  So the wonderful we just have these crazy things happening in sport.
• 1:48:30
  A competition over
• 1:48:31
  here, the FA Cup, it's almost died, it's a cultural event.
• 1:48:36
  But it used to be the biggest day in British sporting calendar was the FA Cup final on Saturday afternoon and you used to get these
• 1:48:44
  really ridiculous teams would end up in that had just got there by Pluck and Spirit and all sorts of other crazy stuff. They weren't necessarily
• 1:48:51
  technically the best football teams but they wanted it so bad and it was just fantastic, A really British event.
• 1:48:59
  Unknown: Now
• 1:49:00
  it's I don't know what it is, it's just sort of orchestrated with time. Can I It's completely fine, mate? So yeah. You might. Hold on. So you said the ones that win the most are the ones with the most money. Isn't that what I heard you say?
• 1:49:14
  Unknown: In the mature sports now, that's generally what's happening. So sports been all the time really professionally structured.
• 1:49:20
  Unknown: Yeah. So are are you giving one of those underhanded anti Semitic remarks?
• 1:49:31
  Unknown: You're such a terrible dick to my comment. You're a foul, mama. No.
• 1:49:36
  I'm not I'm actually not really saying that because,
• 1:49:39
  I mean, there's a cluster of sort of Anglo spiffs hang around the game anyway. I mean it's always been known for bungs. Yeah. They used to bung cash under the table all over the place in the seventies, the eighties. I've got to tell you, I quite like that. I like the underhand seediness. They're all like used car salesman with wads of cash in their pockets going, here you go Brian, take this. And I I think that that was more fun. Now it's all completely technically tedious.
• 1:50:04
  I mean I mean if you take European football as well, in Spain they have to they have a fantastic league in Spain
• 1:50:11
  and they have two teams which have been dominating their league for forty years between them. They are Real Madrid and Barcelona
• 1:50:20
  and they win just about everything all the time and you look at the amount of money they've got compared to everybody else and you go, why are we doing this? So I'm
• 1:50:28
  kind of
• 1:50:29
  I just like I think I like things down at the village fate now, you know, just daft things where you don't know what's gonna happen. I mean, if you know kind of what's gonna happen all the time, there's not too much point in watching it, is there? It seems to me or it loses its kind of crazy appeal as a bit of relaxation.
• 1:50:46
  Unknown: You mean the the New England Patriots are gonna win the Super Bowl again this coming year? Yeah, Chris. Well,
• 1:50:55
  Unknown: this was what I was gonna bring up in relation to Paul's observations. I have quite a bit of automobile
• 1:51:01
  racing experience attendance, including some Grand Prix here in Las Vegas at Caesars Palace and Indianapolis five other
• 1:51:09
  auspicious automobile races.
• 1:51:11
  And what we see is a fervor because there is
• 1:51:15
  a unpredictable
• 1:51:17
  chance.
• 1:51:18
  The intervention of the fickle finger of God reaching down in a wheel falling off, a a $5 bearing going out on any Brown Phillies,
• 1:51:27
  Indianapolis STP turbo car,
• 1:51:30
  things of that nature, crashes that occur that we don't think about.
• 1:51:34
  Running out of fuel at the end the line. You just the number of unpredictable
• 1:51:39
  uncertainties
• 1:51:40
  make it a veritable crapshoot as to who will actually win. Now, yes, generally, the most heavily funded groups do prevail
• 1:51:49
  with a preponderance
• 1:51:51
  of
• 1:51:52
  frequency.
• 1:51:53
  However Yeah. There is the long shot,
• 1:51:56
  and that is the fervor, I think, that drives the fans with the eternal hope that their team, it might be their time this time. Well, you know, Chris, what you're talking about is very interesting because that's exactly what happened with the masters.
• 1:52:13
  Unknown: Because Tiger hadn't won that thing in fourteen years, but all these people that were so emotionally attached to him had been betting on him for those fourteen years, but the odds had dropped and now they're still emotionally attached to betting on him, and the bookies lost money, that's why they lost money right there.
• 1:52:36
  Unknown: Absolutely.
• 1:52:38
  Unknown: So let's see here if we can salvage. We got not very much time left, couple of minutes though. Has anybody got anything that we need to get in before the show closes today?
• 1:52:50
  Okay. Well, hey. Well,
• 1:52:53
  then everybody wants to talk at once. Go ahead, Chris.
• 1:52:58
  Unknown: Well, I was gonna go back to the beginning of the conversation where I chimed in when you
• 1:53:02
  about the yellow vest in France.
• 1:53:05
  I think that's the same group
• 1:53:07
  that I had speculated on calls before on this program, and I think with Paul about the International Financial Association or analyst or what they call it, and the kerfuffle of the populace
• 1:53:21
  that they were saying, don't pay attention to them. It'll blow over. Maintain the status quo. Steady as you go. Your shoulder will. Everything will work out, and things will be just as they were. The, everything will prevail. Although it seems like somebody may have thrown a monkey into red
• 1:53:38
  into the, bubble, and it's not working out exactly like they predicted.
• 1:53:43
  And that's the reason they had to go to desperate ends of sending somebody up there,
• 1:53:48
  or hiring somebody or
• 1:53:51
  some provocateur
• 1:53:52
  hit that fire at Notre Dame to have a a nine one one style event or
• 1:53:58
  that sort of thing.
• 1:54:00
  Well What was it? A show by like event?
• 1:54:04
  Unknown: From those who have not seen the clip yet because it just surfaced yesterday, somebody had a like it looks like a surveillance camera because it's a set camera and it oversaw
• 1:54:14
  Notre Dame,
• 1:54:15
  and they caught before the fire up on the upper tiers by the steeple,
• 1:54:20
  you can see a guy walking,
• 1:54:23
  and then they go back and put it on slow frame,
• 1:54:26
  and you can see a flick,
• 1:54:28
  you can see a light,
• 1:54:30
  fire, a or something on there. Okay? And there's nothing else burning at that point. And if you haven't seen that yet, I'll put it up in today's show description, but it's showing up around the web, I think.
• 1:54:44
  Unknown: It was also salient
• 1:54:46
  that there were pictures or surveillance footage
• 1:54:50
  that showed someone in a tunic with a hood
• 1:54:53
  that looked similar to a Knight's temple archon
• 1:54:57
  hood or tunic.
• 1:54:59
  And, of course, he had a head,
• 1:55:01
  hoodie on, so you couldn't tell who it was precisely kinda Unabomberish.
• 1:55:06
  And so it really the fact that there was no work going on that day, they had previously
• 1:55:13
  removed all the most valuable removable relics
• 1:55:17
  from the place. Yes. There was damage done to some statuary and maybe some stained glass that would be very difficult to replace to replicate.
• 1:55:26
  But
• 1:55:27
  Unknown: the whole thing speaks to the fact it was basically Chris. Mostly not occupied and somebody accessed. You you missed the most important point. The guy that had the hoodie on, you couldn't see who it was, but he had a a yellow vest on.
• 1:55:44
  Unknown: Well, sure. You always put on the robes or the disguise of the person you wanna incriminate
• 1:55:48
  so you can frame the blame on the intended victim or targeted victim. Maybe the guilty maybe the innocent party that they wanna hang the blame on is in my case. I mean, it's it's, it's very, very, common with these people. They've been doing it since the beginning of time. Yeah. Well, we know their MO now, and everybody's got a camera. Okay? Everybody's
• 1:56:09
  Unknown: got a camera now and we got the internet. Paul, thanks for taking time out of your Thursday here
• 1:56:15
  and this week to spend with us and we always appreciate you and we generally have Paul on Wednesdays
• 1:56:22
  but this unusual week and so I want to thank you and let everybody know. Of course, we got the show with Brent tomorrow and if you're not familiar with Brent yet, please try and tune in because I don't know what we'll talk about but I guarantee you, it will be of great substance and it will revolve around scripture,
• 1:56:41
  okay? And so, there's our don't
• 1:56:44
  forget we're in a spiritual battle here, kids. There's our Whistler, Paul. Thanks again. Rob, good to hear from you. Chris, Shane,
• 1:56:52
  Michael, everybody that participated.
• 1:56:55
  Appreciate you. And we'll see you guys tomorrow. Have a real nice day. Tomorrow's Good Friday, so that ought to be a real special show. So we'll see you all tomorrow with Brent, and thanks for riding along.
• 1:57:08
  Unknown: You shall know them by their works. Yeah. Sure. Their
• 1:57:12
  Unknown: works are rotten, and they are rotten fruit. See you guys tomorrow.