Latest / Simply Bitcoin / Larry Lepard Breaks Down the Recent Bitcoin Crash | EP 1216
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- 0:00Yo, Larry Laparde accurately predicted this recent market
- 0:04crash, but also made a shocking prediction about where Bitcoin
- 0:08goes next. Let's get straight into this
- 0:11prophecy from only 8 days ago, and I want you guys to pay very
- 0:16close attention to what Larry predicted about Bitcoin's price
- 0:20after he nailed this recent market crash.
- 0:23Let's check out the clip. Larry, what's going on with the
- 0:26price of Bitcoin? And your answer was fascinating.
- 0:30Yeah. So, yeah, let me just elaborate
- 0:33on what I think's going on. And it's probably not what
- 0:34Bitcoin is want to hear right now.
- 0:36But so I, I think if you look at what's going on where we are on
- 0:39the movie, right, we're at the point in time where the the US
- 0:42stock market is about to roll over.
- 0:44It started rolling over, broke through some critical resistance
- 0:48and we're in a little bit of a bounce right now, but I think
- 0:50we're about to have another leg down.
- 0:52And this is all being driven by the Trump policies, you know,
- 0:54the tariffs and, and kind of the disruption stuff he's doing.
- 0:57And, you know, the market doesn't like uncertainty.
- 0:59There's a lot of uncertainty. So and, and the market's very
- 1:02overvalued using any historical measures.
- 1:04So I believe we're about to enter a market downturn, fairly
- 1:08significant one. It's kind of down 10% from the
- 1:10top. I think we could easily go down
- 1:1220 and maybe even 30 or 40 over the next few months.
- 1:15And if that's the case, that's a negative liquidity event, You
- 1:19know, people, stocks get marked down and people feel less
- 1:21wealthy and, and it's, you know, a cyclical thing for the
- 1:24economy, etcetera. And so typically when that
- 1:27happens, all asset prices go down because people have to sell
- 1:30to meet margin calls, so on and so forth.
- 1:32And as I was saying to Nico pre pre show, you know, bitcoins not
- 1:37immune from this, sadly, it, it is sound money.
- 1:40It, it should be a, a safety bid, but, but it won't
- 1:42necessarily get a safety bid. And, and so I'm actually of the
- 1:46view that just to cut to the chase that we could see a lower
- 1:49Bitcoin price before we see a much higher Bitcoin price.
- 1:52And you know, by that I mean, maybe something in the high 70s,
- 1:54something starts with a 70, which I know is not what people
- 1:56want to hear, but I think it's, I think it's possible.
- 1:59If it does happen, I don't think it'll last for long.
- 2:02The reason I say that is that the Federal Reserve has already
- 2:04started to indicate they're going to loosen.
- 2:07They, they, they reduce the amount of quantitative
- 2:10tightening that they are doing from 25 billion a month to 5
- 2:13billion a month. That's a big cut in a
- 2:15concession, I think, on the part of of Powell to to help Trump
- 2:20out. And, and I think that when the
- 2:22market rolls over the way we're describing, it won't be long
- 2:25until the economy and employment and all the other indicators
- 2:27start to indicate softness too. And even though they haven't
- 2:30really licked inflation, they're going to look beyond that and
- 2:32just say, well, OK, time to time to get more aggressive about
- 2:35cutting and they're going to cut.
- 2:37And when that happens, then bitcoin's going to go the other
- 2:39way. And it's because that in my
- 2:42view, will be the the prelude to what will ultimately be coming,
- 2:45which of course is the name of the book, the big print.
- 2:47And so, you know, as I said to Nico, I also think by the end of
- 2:50the year, bitcoin's going to be at 1:40 to 2:50.
- 2:53So that's December. But I guess the point I'm trying
- 2:56to make it, and this is just a guess.
- 2:57I mean, I've been wrong a lot probably be wrong about this
- 2:59too. But you know, you have to win.
- 3:00You're a macro guy and you're making investments, you're
- 3:02managing a fund. You got to try to make your best
- 3:05estimate of what's going to happen.
- 3:06And, and I, I think the stock market's in trouble and I think
- 3:09that right now there's a lot of correlation between the high
- 3:11tech stocks and Bitcoin. I think this cycle will break
- 3:14that correlation, that this will be the time when you know the
- 3:18stock market will roll over and they will come with liquidity to
- 3:21try and prevent the downturn from occurring and the stocks
- 3:24will ignore it. All right, everybody.
- 3:29And Larry got that absolutely 100% right.
- 3:33That was only 8 days ago backstage at the Mining Disrupt
- 3:37conference in Fort Lauderdale, FL.
- 3:39And exactly what he predicted in regards to the market is
- 3:43happening completely red. I mean, the S&P is literally
- 3:47falling off a Cliff. If you look at the chart and
- 3:51what what Larry said regarding the decoupling is actually
- 3:55happening. The Bitcoin price is actually
- 3:58holding strong despite one of the worst days in the SNP.
- 4:04So I mean, this is crazy, bro. This was this was prophetic.
- 4:07Is Larry Leopard the new Lisan Al Gaib?
- 4:11Josh Mandela held the title for a couple of weeks, and now it
- 4:16could be a couple of days. And now it's Larry Leopard and
- 4:19we have a little sneak peek for you guys.
- 4:21We're actually going to be interviewing Larry Leopard here
- 4:24at the Bit Block Boom conference.
- 4:25Dante's going to be having that interview.
- 4:27So we're going to have another update for you guys from the new
- 4:30Profit because he hit the nail on the absolute head here.
- 4:36But again, what's really interesting to me, I was
- 4:38thinking Bitcoin was going to fall off a Cliff.
- 4:41Like the fact that Bitcoin is holding strong.
- 4:43Like Bitcoin historically has been treated like a risk on
- 4:47assets. So it it should be falling off
- 4:49the off the Cliff with the S&P. But that's clearly what's not
- 4:53happening. Anyways, Opti, what's your take
- 4:56on all this bro? Yeah, well, shouts out to Larry
- 4:58and and honestly shouts out to him in that in that clip,
- 5:00because he was very humble about it.
- 5:02I know he kind of gets a lot of a lot of the trash talking on
- 5:05Twitter. They call him a doomer all the
- 5:07time. And he's like, look, as a macro
- 5:09guy, you make predictions, you may be wrong.
- 5:12You got to, you know, eat that humble pie when you're wrong.
- 5:15But hey, a week ago, we didn't really know what was going to
- 5:18take place with all these tariffs.
- 5:20Obviously, now in hindsight, we know what happened.
- 5:23There's been global chaos in all markets.
- 5:25You know, Nasdaq's down this morning worse than it was
- 5:27yesterday. We're seeing even gold's kind
- 5:30of, you know, not hitting all time high right now.
- 5:33So we're seeing that there is a lot of uncertainty in the
- 5:36markets. But the biggest signal here is
- 5:39what Nico just said. Bitcoin is holding very strong.
- 5:42It's super resilient right now. I know when we were watching the
- 5:45speech the other day, we saw it go up to about 87, almost 88,
- 5:49and then it went down to 81. But today it's at like 83 in.
- 5:53In the face of all this economic uncertainty being caused by
- 5:56tariffs, I think Bitcoin is holding on very, very strong.
- 5:59I think that is the silver lining right now.
- 6:02And maybe this is the greater trend we've been thinking was
- 6:04going to play out in a long time.
- 6:06The tariffs are causing a lot of economic uncertainty, but now
- 6:09maybe maybe people are starting to understand that Bitcoin isn't
- 6:11necessarily that risk on asset that they thought it was.
- 6:15It might in fact be that risk off asset and the fact that it
- 6:18is holding this strong in the face of literally the worst.
- 6:22I think of the I think Rusty and I were talking about this this
- 6:24morning. It was all on CNBC, the worst
- 6:26two day market downturn since 2020 and Bitcoin didn't dump
- 6:32this time. So we're may not be seeing a
- 6:34Black Swan moment like we saw in 2020.
- 6:36This may be, I don't know if you say it the opposite way, like a
- 6:39white swan moment here where Bitcoin is acting very, very
- 6:44well right now. And I know like Larry was
- 6:46saying, hey, this is probably not what Bitcoiners want to
- 6:48hear. He's kind of saying maybe it
- 6:49goes to 75 K, but by the end of the year, it might or probably
- 6:54will go into the mid 6 figures. I know Arthur Hayes is kind of
- 6:58saying something similar. We covered that on Monday.
- 7:00He said, look, I think it might go down to 76 K, but I think
- 7:04shortly after it'll go into, you know, 200K territory and he's
- 7:08kind of leaning more towards 200 K territory.
- 7:10So what do we really know? Obviously, we're reading tea
- 7:14leaves here, but it is absolutely incredible that Larry
- 7:17Leopard kind of, you know, hit the ball out of the park on this
- 7:21prediction. And I think it really goes to
- 7:23once you understand Bitcoin fundamentals and of course, now
- 7:26we're all macro experts because we have to be.
- 7:28You kind of see the writing on the wall and you're seeing, hey,
- 7:31things are essentially playing out how we've been talking about
- 7:34all week. You know, we're seeing this war
- 7:36between Scott Besset and Jay Powell.
- 7:38It seems like Powell is kind of getting put in his place.
- 7:41And you know, the 10 year Treasury is down under 4%.
- 7:46And there, if you watch that whole clip, Larry said there's
- 7:49four things that he watches. He watches the price of Bitcoin,
- 7:52the price of gold, the price of the NASDAQ, and then of course
- 7:55the 10 year Treasury bond yield. And most of those things are in
- 8:00the red. And Bitcoin is holding very
- 8:01solid right now. So I would say it's a lot of
- 8:04bullish indicators in Bitcoin's favor.
- 8:07Obviously we want to see the Bitcoin price RIP because of
- 8:10course we're, you know, we're, we're stupidly bullish on
- 8:12Bitcoin always. But I think in the face of all
- 8:15the economic uncertainty, Bitcoin is holding up very
- 8:18strong. And this tariff stuff is, is a
- 8:20big deal right now. And we're seeing that there is a
- 8:23lot of fear in the markets. And I mean, yesterday we were in
- 8:27a Lyft and even our Lyft drivers were talking about what's going
- 8:30on in the markets. So we're we're almost I I don't
- 8:33want to say we're at the like shoeshine boy being bullish on
- 8:36Bitcoin, but we are at the shoeshine boy talking about the
- 8:39global, global markets because it's that impactful.
- 8:41So it seems like Bitcoin is just, I don't know.
- 8:43I would say it's ABS absolutely doing an incredible job right
- 8:47now. I'm I'm just happy I'm a
- 8:49bitcoiner considering everyone else is freaking out. 100% I
- 8:52mean it, it's crazy that again, Bitcoin is not acting like a
- 8:56risk on asset. People are using it.
- 8:58I mean it, it, this is this is uncharted territory right now.
- 9:02Again, I think Trump, Trump's in the driver's seat.
- 9:05I think Trump is actively trying to force the hand of the Fed to
- 9:09change from that QT stance to that QE stance.
- 9:12And during the new segment, we're actually going to do a
- 9:15little bit of a deep dive. We have a theory we're
- 9:18speculating here. There's no way to confirm this
- 9:20for sure, but it's Trump trying to end the Fed all together.
- 9:25I mean, we have a couple of clips that we have compiled and
- 9:29it makes a very strong case that that is his goal.
- 9:32I don't think from an Overton Window perspective, that is
- 9:36something that he can publicly say.
- 9:38But there is a very famous clip going around a couple days ago
- 9:42of Elon Musk essentially being asked by a member of the crowd.
- 9:45He was actively campaigning, I think it was in Wisconsin.
- 9:48And he was act like, you know, Elon, what do you think about
- 9:51the Fed? And then as a joke, Elon was
- 9:52like and the Fed and the Fed. And then he ended the
- 9:56conversation with essentially making the case that hey, look
- 9:59like, you know, he started talking about waste and he
- 10:04started talking about doge, right?
- 10:06So we've been making the case that, look, even if DOGE gets
- 10:11some of this crazy deficit spending under control, there's
- 10:15still going to be a tremendous amount of waste because it's not
- 10:18addressing the root cause. And we're just one
- 10:21administration away from essentially reversing all the
- 10:24work that DOGE has done. The root cause of all this is
- 10:29the central Bank of the United States.
- 10:31It is the Federal Reserve. It's the ability for the
- 10:34government to create money for free that everyone else has to
- 10:37work for. All the things that are
- 10:39happening in the in in government right now with all
- 10:42these inefficiencies, that is the root cause.
- 10:44And if you don't address the root cause, the problem is going
- 10:48to continue repeating. Not only repeating, it's going
- 10:51to continue to get worse. So we're going to be talking
- 10:55about this. We have a bunch of clips
- 10:56compiled to make the case for you guys.
- 10:59I mean, Trump might be playing 3D forty chess right now.
- 11:03His goal might be to end the Federal Reserve.
- 11:06Once you guys see these clips towards the middle of the show,
- 11:09I mean, they make a very, very strong argument of just that.
- 11:13But today's headline is Bitcoin is holding strong while the
- 11:18market, the SNP, continues to meltdown.
- 11:21Again, this was predicted by Larry Leopard 8 days ago.
- 11:24We just played you guys the clip.
- 11:25We're going to get you guys a new interview regarding Larry's
- 11:29current thoughts at the Bit Block Boom conference.
- 11:32I think tomorrow that's going to be happening.
- 11:33So guys, it's going to be a great show.
- 11:35We have tons to cover. We also have a clip of you guys
- 11:39of Preston Pish talking about essentially what's going on,
- 11:43what's going on with Bitcoin, how Bitcoin is essentially
- 11:46changing the whole global macroeconomic landscape.
- 11:50It's forcing people to forcing countries, it's forcing nation
- 11:54states, it's forcing economies to kind of change their outlook
- 11:58because Bitcoin exists. And again, you don't change
- 12:00Bitcoin, Bitcoin changes you guys.
- 12:03It's going to be a great show. If you guys are enjoying it so
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- 14:01today. All right, everybody, we are
- 14:06back. Let's jump straight into today's
- 14:09numbers. We have tons to talk about.
- 14:11Here we go. At the time of recording, the
- 14:13Bitcoin price is $83,120. Block height 890,916 sats per
- 14:20dollar 1203 market cap 1.65 trillion Bitcoin versus gold
- 14:26market cap 7.72% Percentage issued 94.5% decline from all
- 14:33time high -23 point 9% Realize monetary inflation .8 through
- 14:39eight 8%. Anyways, I have a clip for you
- 14:41guys from the BTC session show. Preston Pish has some thoughts
- 14:47regarding the whole Fiat system Bitcoin.
- 14:50I thought it was really interesting.
- 14:51I'm going to play it for you guys and then me and Opti will
- 14:54discuss. When I look at everything that's
- 14:57happening right now, they're being forced, traditional
- 15:00finance, Fiat, all of it. They're being forced to play our
- 15:04game is all there is to it. There's going to be a lot of
- 15:06confusion. This is going to be very messy.
- 15:08No one ever thought this was going to be very simple.
- 15:11And just like in the individual, when they come into this space
- 15:14and they get all excited and they go out and they buy a bunch
- 15:17of this coin, that coin, and they really don't even
- 15:19understand what it's all about. You see that then happen at an
- 15:21organizational level and now you're literally watching it
- 15:24happen at a nation state level. And it shouldn't surprise
- 15:27anybody because it at the very top of a nation is a leader and
- 15:32a person who's calling the shots and their whole staff is falling
- 15:35in underneath of them and they're they're propagating
- 15:37these messages. And so sometimes you see in El
- 15:40Salvador where somebody just kind of gets it right out of the
- 15:42gate. They're orange pill.
- 15:43They understand why bitcoins very different.
- 15:45And you get that's that leadership that's all underneath
- 15:47of that. And you saw that, you know, in
- 15:50style. You saw this also with
- 15:52MicroStrategy with Michael coming in and he's a hardcore
- 15:54bitcoiner. The only thing he buys is
- 15:56Bitcoin. You might see that approach.
- 15:59You might not see that approach. I would argue in the US where we
- 16:02came from in the past administration and what they
- 16:05were trying to do with a crypto army to defeat it and put all
- 16:09these things in place. I mean, Gary Ginsler was a
- 16:11puppet, trying everything to stop the SAB 1/21 as an example.
- 16:16All of those things, they're all being reversed and turned inside
- 16:19out. And so as I'm looking at this,
- 16:21why am I bullish? Well, I'm bullish because
- 16:23they're being forced to play our game.
- 16:24And when I look at like SAB 121, all these banks, they're going
- 16:28to come into this hardcore, they're going to come into this
- 16:32okay. And if you think you're going to
- 16:33turn that off after four years, after they get totally ingrained
- 16:37into this ecosystem, you're totally kidding yourself.
- 16:40Now, are there going to be a lot of mistakes?
- 16:42I, I hope not. I hope I'm trying to do
- 16:45everything I can, writing different articles talking about
- 16:47rehypothecation and the risks that are associated with that
- 16:50being pulled back and, and what not.
- 16:52But we got to try the best we can.
- 16:54And it's an, it's an education burden.
- 16:56And I'm super, super, holy crap am I bullish going into this
- 17:01year. But I also want to take all the
- 17:04lessons we've learned for the past decade and 1/2 and try to
- 17:08apply that to and try to teach people the best we can so that
- 17:12we don't keep repeating the same mistakes.
- 17:15And my God, there's a lot of mistakes we've made or seen in
- 17:18the past that I think we can learn from.
- 17:20Today's bullish bit was brought to you by Coin Kite, makers of.
- 17:26Sorry about that. The end.
- 17:28Anyways, Opti, what's your take? I mean press and pitch dropping
- 17:31the wisdom on why are we bullish, What are your thoughts?
- 17:36Yeah, well, obviously I love Preston pitches analysis on all
- 17:39things stock market. You know he, I think he's been
- 17:42one of the and I hate to use it, thought leaders in the Bitcoin
- 17:45space who's been nailing a lot of this stuff and, and I find it
- 17:48very interesting. You know, a lot of us
- 17:49bitcoiners, we we do kind of get ahead of our skis at times when
- 17:54we talk about Bitcoin because we fundamentally have our biases
- 17:58being confirmed constantly. We think Bitcoin is the best
- 18:01asset, the best money in the world to hold and a lot of times
- 18:04we forget just how tiny the Bitcoin market is in general
- 18:08compared to other global assets. But as press and pitch is kind
- 18:12of laying out, it's we're starting to see that every other
- 18:16institutional asset manager, basically everything in the
- 18:18world right now that has to do with capital is starting to play
- 18:21our game. And I love how he said it's like
- 18:22they're being forced to play our game.
- 18:24And of course, by that we're talking about the Bitcoin game,
- 18:27hard cap, supply, censorship resistant, permissionless
- 18:29network, 24/7 global liquidity. And, and we're starting to see
- 18:33that there is this transition era that we're going through.
- 18:36Yes, Bitcoin is maturing. Yes, we're entering a new
- 18:39paradigm, but it it's starting to seem like the, you know, the
- 18:42leaders of the world or the leaders of capital in the world,
- 18:45whether it's the Larry Finks, the Donald Trump's or everyone
- 18:48around the world is starting to have to take a very serious look
- 18:51into Bitcoin. And I think that's what Preston
- 18:53pitch is laying out there. Obviously, he can say it a lot
- 18:56better than I can, but we're starting to see that a new game
- 18:59is starting to kind of proliferate right now.
- 19:02And hey, as we know, the meme, as Max Keiser's been saying
- 19:05forever on every show he's ever been on, is you can't change
- 19:08Bitcoin. Bitcoin changes you.
- 19:10Now, of course, Bitcoin is tiny right now.
- 19:12So are we going to see Bitcoin instantaneously change
- 19:16traditional finance? Obviously, no.
- 19:18We've been doing this for about 16 years in the Bitcoin space.
- 19:21So that who knows how long this next transition phase is going
- 19:25to be, whether it's, you know, by the end of the Trump
- 19:28administration, whether it's two cycles from now.
- 19:30But we're starting to see that people are waking up to the
- 19:33proof of work mechanisms that is Bitcoin in every aspects of
- 19:36life. I've been saying this for a long
- 19:38time on the show. Proof of work is a lifestyle.
- 19:41It's not just, you know, how mining works.
- 19:43You have to put in the work. You have to adjust to how proof
- 19:46of work works and, and it seems like we might be moving away
- 19:49from a Fiat proof of stake system into a Bitcoin proof of
- 19:54work system. Obviously it's going to take a
- 19:56long, short or sorry, a long drawn out time here.
- 20:00It's not going to be easy. But I do think we are starting
- 20:02to see the beginning of people capitulating and bending the
- 20:05knee towards Bitcoin. It's, and it's not even because
- 20:08they want to, It's because they have to look at the markets
- 20:11today and look at the markets yesterday.
- 20:13People are freaking out right now, so they have to adjust
- 20:17their world. View and obviously as a
- 20:18bitcoiner, we're like we have the best world view we're able
- 20:21to predict where the future is going we're able to predict
- 20:23where the ball is going and we are just kind of waiting at the
- 20:26finish line. Obviously I'm not going to go
- 20:28full pod comped on Uniko and say that Bitcoin has already won,
- 20:32but we are ahead of the curve and we're just seeing everyone
- 20:35kind of start to realize what the hell is going on and somehow
- 20:3945 IQ bit corners on YouTube are like guys, it's it's it's pretty
- 20:42simple. We've been telling you all week
- 20:44what is going on and now it seems to be playing out.
- 20:46The dominoes are falling and I think Preston Pitch is right,
- 20:49the world is being forced to adopt Bitcoin, they're being
- 20:52forced to adopt our game and you just love to see it.
- 20:55A. 100% and anyone who doesn't have Bitcoin is going to be left
- 20:59behind. I think that is clear as day and
- 21:02really exciting times, man, we're heading in like even
- 21:05despite the market just dropping like crazy in the SNP, Bitcoin
- 21:09is holding strong again. The US government has every
- 21:12intent to, with this current administration to acquire more
- 21:16Bitcoin. I mean, I mean, this is pretty
- 21:18crazy. This is this, this is going to
- 21:19be a crazy 4th, 4th turning. I think the next four years
- 21:23we're going to see some crazy, crazy events that we've never
- 21:27seen in world history before. I think Breedlove thesis was
- 21:31that essentially at the end of this 4th turning, people are
- 21:35going to discover the answer to what is money.
- 21:38I think the world is slowly awakening to that, the global
- 21:42consciousness and of course, all roads lead to Bitcoin.
- 21:46Guys, stay tuned because during the news segment, I'm going to
- 21:49be making the case as to why the Trump administration possibly
- 21:54has the intent to end the Federal Reserve.
- 21:58There's a lot of things that he has said that, you know, makes
- 22:02you question. And again, I'm not the only one
- 22:05saying this, a lot of people are are, are also coming to this
- 22:08theory as well. So I'm going to be laying out
- 22:11the case for you guys. Also, it seems like there's
- 22:13currently some politics happening between the Fed that's
- 22:17supposed to be independent. But if the Fed is independent,
- 22:20who tells the Fed what to do, right?
- 22:23Like, you know, we always hear about a danger to democracy.
- 22:26We always hear about democracy, democracy this, democracy that.
- 22:30the Fed isn't democratically elected. the Fed is appointed,
- 22:35right? So you know that I find quite
- 22:38interesting because it's like we elect the president, but the
- 22:44president isn't the one making the decisions about the money.
- 22:49What's going on here, right? The curtain, I think, is being
- 22:51revealed. I think slowly but surely, the
- 22:53Overton window is shifting. And I think people at the end of
- 22:57the day, when they're going to come to the conclusion that the
- 22:59Fed is the sole cause for a lot of the economic woes that people
- 23:05are going through, I think people are feeling the wealth
- 23:08inequality. I think people are feeling the
- 23:10hurt of not being able to afford housing.
- 23:13I think people are feeling the hurt of not being able to afford
- 23:16rent. The millennial and Gen.
- 23:18Z generation were the first generations that are poorer than
- 23:21our parents, right? Like that, That's absolutely
- 23:24crazy, right? But what is the root cause?
- 23:26The root cause is broken money. The root cause is the ability
- 23:29for the governments to just create money for free that
- 23:31everyone everyone else has to work for inflation.
- 23:34Inflation is breaking the world. This is the whole basis of of of
- 23:39Larry's book, the big print. But Bitcoin fixes this and you
- 23:43don't have to wait for an election.
- 23:45You don't have to wait for a president.
- 23:47You can start adopting the Bitcoin standard today and start
- 23:50benefiting from bitcoins number go up technology.
- 23:54It provides an Oasis and a sea of inflation.
- 23:57Anyways, everybody we're going to get to the news.
- 23:59We have tons to talk about, guys.
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- 26:49All right, everybody, we are back.
- 26:50All right guys, bear with me because this is a this is a bit
- 26:54of a rabbit hole. 1st, I'm going to play you guys this clip from
- 26:57Matt Gaetz show again, we aren't the only ones that are coming to
- 27:02this conclusion. And what is that conclusion?
- 27:05That conclusion is, I believe Trump wants to end the Fed, but
- 27:11he can't overly say overtly say it.
- 27:14So bear with me, right? And we always talk about the
- 27:18Overton window and you guys make fun of me.
- 27:20But I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to define what it is.
- 27:23So the Overton window is the acceptable window of discourse.
- 27:27If you talk about a subject that's outside of the Overton
- 27:30window, you get, you get othered, you get considered a
- 27:33radical, you get it, it, it, it seems crazy to most people.
- 27:38So our job as Bitcoiners is to move that Overton window.
- 27:42And we've done that tremendously.
- 27:44Elon has been mentioning mentioning on X all the time.
- 27:46He's like the Overton window has shattered because of how many
- 27:50things have happened in the last year and a half, two years,
- 27:52right? So the disintermediation of
- 27:54information completely happened, right?
- 27:56The vast majority of people now, not the vast majority, but the
- 27:59majority of people now get their news on social media and they
- 28:03don't get their news on legacy media.
- 28:05If you get your news on social media, you live in a completely
- 28:09different world than people that live in the get their news from
- 28:13legacy media. It's a completely different
- 28:14reality, right? So again, more people are
- 28:17awakening, more people are doing their own research, more people
- 28:21are getting their information from independent media sources,
- 28:26and in the process, they're waking up to reality.
- 28:29But again, if you're a politician, you can't just say
- 28:33things that seem radical because again, that gives ammunition to
- 28:37your political opponents and it also reveals what your next move
- 28:42is. So instead of judging people on
- 28:45what they say, judge people based on their actions.
- 28:49So that's what we're going to focus on today.
- 28:51Now, again, this is speculation. We're making a theory for you
- 28:55guys. We're we're making the case for
- 28:56you guys. And then let let us know what
- 29:00you guys think. Let us know down in the comments
- 29:02if if you guys believe we're seeing things that are not
- 29:05there. So first let's play this clip
- 29:07from the Matt Gates podcast and then we'll talk about it.
- 29:12Tyler, there was also this order that came out stopping the
- 29:15creation of a central bank digital currency.
- 29:18What do you make of that? So I was just talking to Josh
- 29:22about this. We've been actually talking
- 29:23about it all day. I've been making videos about it
- 29:25all day. And what it tells me is that,
- 29:28and this could be up for debate, but maybe Trump's looking to end
- 29:31the Fed or at least have some control over the Fed.
- 29:34And we haven't had that in a long time.
- 29:36And I know it's a very bold statement, but that's what it's
- 29:39looking like to me. One of the big things Josh has
- 29:42brought up tokenization, that's going to be massive as well.
- 29:45So, you know, one of the one of the other biggest things is the
- 29:49regulation side of it, right? When I think about this, this is
- 29:54a huge step towards freedom of money, freedom of commerce that
- 29:58we haven't had in so long, right?
- 30:01And with the Fed coming in and saying, with Trump saying to the
- 30:05Fed, you're, you're not coming in, you're not going to be part
- 30:07of this. I mean, he literally said that
- 30:08it's not going to be for the Fed, It's not going to be for
- 30:10the FDIC. You know, these groups that were
- 30:12forming, you're not allowed access.
- 30:14And it tells me that he's trying to decentralize our money and,
- 30:18and in turn that's going to decentralize everything that
- 30:21we're doing from. So, so think about what he said
- 30:26for a second, right? So decentralize the system.
- 30:30So the Fed, essentially Trump stopped the Fed from being
- 30:34involved in Bitcoin and crypto from a regulatory perspective.
- 30:38He also completely stopped what what I believe is the only
- 30:43future for central banks, the central bank digital currency
- 30:46and his executive order. He explicitly forbade the United
- 30:50States government from launching a central bank digital currency.
- 30:55Now, if you take a look at his strategy with the tariffs and
- 30:59you take a look at what Howard Lupnik is saying, Howard Lutnick
- 31:03said in an interview that essentially the goal is to end
- 31:07income tax for anyone who's not making 100, anyone who's making
- 31:12150K or below, they get to pay no income tax.
- 31:15But the only way that Trump is able to do that, again, he can't
- 31:19overtly do this. He's telling you his goal, but
- 31:22the only way he's he, the only way he's able to do that is to
- 31:26replace that revenue with a different form of revenue, which
- 31:30is what the tariffs are all about.
- 31:32This is why he continues to talk about the tariffs.
- 31:34He references the late 1800s. He's basically said that was one
- 31:39of the wealthiest moments in American history.
- 31:42We had so much money, we didn't know what to do with it.
- 31:45And the reason that the US government was so well funded
- 31:48was because of the tariffs. So again, he's not directly
- 31:52saying, OK, let's end the income tax via executive order.
- 31:55He's saying let's replace the income tax with another form of
- 31:58revenue. I think he might be doing the
- 32:00same thing with the Federal Reserve.
- 32:03But again, it's not what he's saying overtly.
- 32:06It's with his action. So again, he's taking away the
- 32:10Fed's ability to launch a central bank, digital
- 32:13currencies. And no, no, that's not that's
- 32:14not going to happen in the United States.
- 32:16He's taking out the Federal Reserve from the regulatory
- 32:21decisions with about the Bitcoin and crypto industry.
- 32:25Remember last year it would we found out multiple times I had
- 32:30Caitlin Long on the show and she explicitly told us about the
- 32:34Fed's hostility towards a lot of these crypto Bitcoin friendly
- 32:40banks, specifically Custodia bank that Caitlin Long was, was
- 32:44applying for a federal banking charter, which would allow her
- 32:47to be competitive with other other banks.
- 32:50She the Fed slow walked her. She needed the approval of the
- 32:53Fed to get that banking charter with Trump.
- 32:56Trump's coming in says no, you don't even need approval of the
- 32:58we're going to separate that right.
- 33:01So again, don't pay attention to what they're saying.
- 33:03Pay attention to what their actions.
- 33:04Now take a look at this clip from so-called liberation day.
- 33:10That's what Trump called it. That's not what we called it.
- 33:12He mentions a very specific year.
- 33:16That year is 1913. In 1913, two things happened,
- 33:23the introduction of the income tax and the establishment of the
- 33:29Federal Reserve Bank. Let's check out the clip. 1789
- 33:35to 1913, we were a tariff backed nation in the United States was
- 33:40proportionately the wealthiest it has ever been.
- 33:43So wealthy in fact, that in the 1880s they established a
- 33:48Commission to decide what they were going to do with the vast
- 33:51sums of money they were collecting.
- 33:53We were collecting so much money so fast we didn't know what to
- 33:56do with it. Isn't that a nice problem to
- 33:58have? What do you think Marco?
- 33:59Good problem. Marco would love that problem,
- 34:03but we don't have that problem anymore.
- 34:06But we're not going to have it very much longer, I will tell
- 34:08you. But they collected so much money
- 34:11they actually formed a Commission to determine what
- 34:13they were going to do with the money, who they were going to
- 34:15give it to and how much. Then in 1913, for reasons
- 34:19unknown to mankind, they established the income tax so
- 34:23that citizens rather than foreign countries would start
- 34:26paying the money necessary to run our government.
- 34:29Then in 1929 it all came to a very abrupt end with a Great
- 34:33Depression and it would have never happened if they had
- 34:37stayed with the tariff. So 1913, the establishment of
- 34:44the Federal Reserve, the whole point of the Federal Reserve was
- 34:48to like essentially stabilize markets, right?
- 34:52You know, make sure that unemployment is low, make sure
- 34:56that inflation is low. The two biggest depressions and
- 35:00recessions in American history have happened under central
- 35:05banking, the 1930s, and, of course, the Great Recession that
- 35:10happened in 2008, which led to the creation of Bitcoin.
- 35:13And all of this is connected, right?
- 35:16And I love his answer. His response for reasons
- 35:20unknown, right? Of course he knows the reasons.
- 35:23Of course he knows the reasons. But perhaps the reasons are
- 35:27outside of the Overton window. Now, again, I would say the good
- 35:31news is that I think people are waking up.
- 35:34Here is Elon during a campaign and someone from the audience
- 35:38explicitly asks him about the Federal Reserve.
- 35:42Take a look at Elon's answer. It's extremely important that
- 35:46you guys pay attention because Elon strolling Lee says and the
- 35:50Fed, but he ends up talking about wastes.
- 35:55And this is what we've been saying.
- 35:57The waste is enabled by the central banks.
- 36:01The central banks is what allows the waste to happen because if
- 36:05you don't have a central bank, if you don't have a money
- 36:07printer, the only form of revenue the government has is
- 36:12via direct taxation. And you could only make that so
- 36:16high before people start to get pissed off.
- 36:19But the reason that people don't notice that they're getting
- 36:23taxed in two different ways is because it's a very insidious
- 36:27tax. It's a the actual number in your
- 36:31bank account stays the same. So you don't realize that you're
- 36:36purchasing power decreases. And make no mistake, the cause
- 36:41of inflation, the cause of monetary debasement is not the
- 36:45weather. It's not what's happening in
- 36:48Ukraine. It's not, you know, whatever
- 36:51reason they, they've given us every single reason at this
- 36:54point. It's not any of those things.
- 36:56It is literally the government printing money.
- 37:00And remember, the US government has a $2 trillion deficit year
- 37:05over year. How are they able to spend more
- 37:10money every single year than they collect in tax revenue?
- 37:15They're able to do that because they're able to print the
- 37:18difference. And people, our job as
- 37:21Bitcoiners is to wake up people to that reality because all
- 37:26roads lead to Bitcoin. Bitcoin fixes this.
- 37:29Remember, every single block that Bitcoin survives continues
- 37:34to exist. It proves that money can exist
- 37:38without inflation. I show you guys this number all
- 37:41the time in Clark Moody's dashboard and I point, I pointed
- 37:45out on the very bottom right when me and Opti started
- 37:48covering the realized monetary inflation of Bitcoin, it was at
- 37:52roughly 3 or 4%. We've been covering this stat
- 37:56for you guys for about like a year and a half, two years now,
- 37:59and it's continued to go down. It's at .88%.
- 38:02It's going to go down to .5. It's going to go down to .1.
- 38:06It's going to go down to .2. Even if central banks get to
- 38:13that magic 2% number, Bitcoins inflation rate is still lower.
- 38:19Bitcoin proves that money can exist without inflation.
- 38:24And remember what NBK said on yesterday's show, and it's
- 38:28something really important for you guys to remember.
- 38:31If you have any type of wealth or any type of savings, you are
- 38:36forced to invest just to maintain your purchasing power.
- 38:41What if you're a painter? What if you are a plumber?
- 38:46What if you're a doctor? Why do you have to learn how to
- 38:50invest just to live? This is the problem that Bitcoin
- 38:55fixes. All Bitcoiners are advocating
- 38:58for is live your life, live below your means, save in
- 39:04Bitcoin and you can get by. We live in an upside down world
- 39:11because of Fiat, because of central banks.
- 39:16And I think Trump and Elon know this.
- 39:20I think Howard Lopnik know this. Remember, Howard Lopnik is a
- 39:23bitcoiner. Anyways, let's check out the
- 39:26clip from Elon. The half of America for the
- 39:28idiots you have to deal with, for what you're doing for us to
- 39:31improve our country. Second of all, my question is
- 39:35what is your opinion on the Federal Reserve and do you have
- 39:38any intentions of doing anything with them?
- 39:40And the Fed, yeah, I don't know. I always wanted to say that, you
- 39:50know, but, but I mean, I think that's like 20,000 people that
- 39:54work at the Fed seems pretty high.
- 39:57In fact, there's a lot of people who work with the Fed on us
- 39:58things like why do we have so many people at this at the Fed
- 40:01and what do they do? And you know, sometimes I wonder
- 40:06which one would win, you know, the federal for interest rates,
- 40:11the, the federal, the board of the Federal Reserve or a Magic 8
- 40:14ball. And I'm like, I think the Magic
- 40:188 ball might win, you know? So then I'm like, well, Magic 8
- 40:22ball is a lot cheaper, so. You know, it's like you shake
- 40:28it, it says check back again later.
- 40:29I'm like, OK, same thing. But but I think we, we, we, we,
- 40:39we. What really matters is that the
- 40:43government spending it is, is not far in excess of government
- 40:48revenue. That's a fundamental issue that
- 40:50we have where the, we have a, a deficit of $2 trillion and we
- 40:55have interest payments that now exceed the entire budget of the
- 40:59military. In fact, that that was a big
- 41:02wake up call for me was when the, the amount of money that
- 41:06we're paying national debt interest exceeded the Defense
- 41:09Department budget. And like Defense Department
- 41:11budget is very big and interest is higher than that and, and,
- 41:15and climbing. That's a disaster, You know, so
- 41:20the, the very simple, straightforward goal of, of the
- 41:23doge team is to get rid of waste and forward.
- 41:27It's, it's mostly waste. It's it's or depending on how
- 41:29you know, I'd say it's probably 80% waste, 20% for.
- 41:35All right, everybody, so let's break it down.
- 41:38There's a lot of things that he said there.
- 41:40First of all, he said, listen it a Magic 8 ball will do a better
- 41:45job at essentially picking interest rates than the Fed.
- 41:5120,000 people work at the Fed. What do those people do?
- 41:55Right? Like again.
- 41:57And then he trollingly said like, I think to cover.
- 42:01Like what? How he actually felt like end
- 42:03the Fed, end the Fed. You know, like he said it as a
- 42:05joke. But then he made the argument as
- 42:08to like, he was basically saying this is obsolete.
- 42:11And then at the end he talked about waste.
- 42:15I mean, like, did he? I mean, he did explicitly say
- 42:20it. He said it jokingly, I think to
- 42:22cover, you know, because Elon's in the headline.
- 42:25Anything he does is in the headlines these days.
- 42:28But I, I, I don't know, I don't know how much of a stronger case
- 42:32we can make for you guys. Trump mentions 1913.
- 42:38Elon explicitly says and the Fed says the interest rate, that 8
- 42:42ball could do a better job at picking the interest rates.
- 42:47Talks about waste, talks about 22,000 people working there.
- 42:52I mean, I think it's, it's clear as day, but I think they're,
- 42:56they're using the same strategy that they did that they're doing
- 42:59with attempting to end the income tax.
- 43:04I don't think they can do it overtly.
- 43:07I think they have to prove that the system can function without
- 43:12those things. And I think for the income tax,
- 43:15he's trying to do it with the tariffs.
- 43:18And I think with the Fed, you might be able to do it with
- 43:24Bitcoin, you might be able to. But again, I might not.
- 43:28I might not be seeing something that's actually there.
- 43:31But this is pretty explicit like, and again, I'm not the
- 43:35only one to reach this conclusion.
- 43:37I played you guys a clip from the Matt Gaetz podcast.
- 43:40Why is Trump taking out the Fed from Bitcoin and crypto
- 43:47regulation? Why in the same executive order
- 43:52regarding Bitcoin that he or digital assets that he
- 43:57explicitly say that he forbids the federal government for
- 44:02launching a central bank digital currency Again, all you have to
- 44:06do is pay attention and connect the dots, right?
- 44:11And our boy G money, right, has been saying this for about two
- 44:17years now. Me and Opti have been probably
- 44:19longer. We've been looking at him like,
- 44:21there's no way. I think he's wrong.
- 44:24But I mean, all things point to something.
- 44:27Oh, and I forgot to mention, right now there's a heated
- 44:33political battle between the two institutions or the the
- 44:38executive branch and the Federal Reserve.
- 44:42I'll show it up. I'll show it to you guys.
- 44:44So this is Trump's Truth Social post from this morning at 10:00
- 44:49AM. He said this would be a perfect
- 44:52time for Fed Chairman Jerome Powell to cut interest rates.
- 44:57He is always late, but he can now change his image and
- 45:00quickly. Energy prices are down, interest
- 45:04rates are down, inflation is down, even with even eggs are
- 45:08down 69%. That's hilarious.
- 45:12And jobs are up, all within two months.
- 45:15A big win for America. Cut interest rates.
- 45:18Jerome, stop playing politics. What's really interesting is Fed
- 45:24Chair Jerome Powell says tariffs will raise inflation in the
- 45:29coming quarters. And remember, this gives him the
- 45:33air cover to keep rates high because, again, the whole point
- 45:38of keeping rates high is to lower inflation.
- 45:41And he's saying, oh, look, inflation with the tariffs,
- 45:44inflation is up, you know, So this is a game of chicken.
- 45:48This is politics. But this is crazy to me because
- 45:51if you see it on its head, we are supposed to be living in a
- 45:55democracy. We hear that all the time.
- 45:58Democracy this, democracy that, democracy this.
- 46:04Nobody elected Jerome Powell. He was appointed.
- 46:11The American people elected Trump.
- 46:14Whether you disagree with him or not.
- 46:16That's democracy, right? The American people elected
- 46:20Senate. The senators, American people
- 46:22elected the congressman and woman. the Fed is acting like an
- 46:28independent entity with no democratic check.
- 46:34That's weird. That's really strange.
- 46:38That's very, that's very effing strange.
- 46:40I don't know what else to say about that.
- 46:42Right. So again, like, isn't the
- 46:45president supposed to be, you know, the commander in chief,
- 46:49the one leading the country, and he has to essentially tell
- 46:52someone who's appointed like, hey, lower the interest rates
- 46:56and then he's playing politics. And then if you take a look at
- 46:59the the article that was released by Arthur Hayes, Arthur
- 47:04Hayes explicitly said, hey, you know, Powell explicitly tried to
- 47:12get Kamala elected, like politically, right?
- 47:17So again, it's supposed to be an independent, you know,
- 47:20institution, entity, whatever you want to call it.
- 47:25It's not supposed to be political, but it's been acting
- 47:28political. I don't know what else to say.
- 47:31You know, I don't know what else to say.
- 47:33Listen, Bitcoin exposes incentives.
- 47:36I think incentives are being exposed.
- 47:38I think the Fed has to end. I think this conversation of,
- 47:42you know, this conversation of Bitcoin strategic reserve, it's
- 47:46great. Fine, the Overton window is
- 47:48moving, but I think Bitcoiners should not lose the eye on the
- 47:53price. I think Bitcoiners should not
- 47:56forget what the end goal is here.
- 47:59The end goal here is to end the tyranny of central banking.
- 48:05That is the goal. We have the tool.
- 48:07The tool is Bitcoin. It's very difficult to Co opt,
- 48:11especially if a lot of individuals are taking self
- 48:13custody. But we should keep our eye on
- 48:15the prize. The eye the prize is and the Fed
- 48:20and the Fed and the Fed. Anyways, if you guys are
- 48:25enjoying today's live show 2300 of you guys watching live, make
- 48:29sure to smash that like button. Currently we're at 174 likes.
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- 48:42someone in the chat. Nico is pissed.
- 48:44You're right that I'm pissed. You're right that I'm pissed.
- 48:47Our generation got the short end of the stick because of the Fed,
- 48:53right? Look at what happened happened
- 48:54in 2008. No significant banker went to
- 48:58jail for what happened in 2008. What happened in 2008 was a
- 49:02crime. Main St. bailed out Wall Street
- 49:06and no central banker paid the politician.
- 49:10I mean paid the price. In fact, they got bailed out by
- 49:14the government. You want to know if you're, you
- 49:16want to know why, if you're a millennial or Gen.
- 49:18Z, you cannot afford a house. You guys want to know why?
- 49:22You guys want to know the reason?
- 49:24That's the reason. Because of what happened in
- 49:262008. But that was only enabled
- 49:29because the Federal Reserve exists.
- 49:31That was only enabled because central banking exists.
- 49:34Remember what is in the genesis block, Chancellor on the brink
- 49:39of the second bailout for banks. This is why Bitcoin was
- 49:43invented. This is why Bitcoin exists.
- 49:47So yes, number go up. Yes, the ETFs are great.
- 49:50Yes. Oh my God, you know strategic
- 49:53Bitcoin reserve Who kumbaya? We're all going to get rich.
- 49:57We are here for the revolution. We are here because we want the
- 50:01world to be better for our children and the future
- 50:05generations. And if that world is a future of
- 50:08central banking, it's going to be a future of slavery, nihilism
- 50:13and endless wars. If we want a future of Bitcoin,
- 50:17it's going to be a future of peace, prosperity, opportunity
- 50:22for all. So and the Fed.
- 50:24And I think Trump, whether he's actively or consciously doing
- 50:28it, the silver lining is at least he's moving the Overton
- 50:33window. At least he's referencing the
- 50:36year that this institution was established, 1913.
- 50:43Let's keep going down that rabbit hole.
- 50:45You know, I used to say we haven't won until we get a
- 50:50central bank. I mean, a a Bitcoiner in the
- 50:53White House. I used to say that.
- 50:55I said, so listen, if if we get a bit of a pro Bitcoin president
- 50:59in the White House, we won. If we get a president that
- 51:02freeze Ross, we won. I used to say that and we got
- 51:06that. And maybe I'm getting a little
- 51:08bit greedy, but we need a Bitcoiner in the White House
- 51:12that says, and the Fed, that's what we need next.
- 51:16So Trump is good. He's done a lot of good things
- 51:18for Bitcoin. But we got to continue moving
- 51:22that mother effing Overton window until you have the US
- 51:26president looking at a camera and telling the American people
- 51:31that the reason they're all poor and they can't afford things is
- 51:35because of the Federal Reserve. That's what we need.
- 51:39That's what's actually going to fix things.
- 51:42So until that happens, it's OK. It's OK.
- 51:45You can save and earn in Bitcoin and you'll be protected from the
- 51:48monetary debasement. Anyways, my, my rant and my
- 51:52ramble is over. I wanted to give you guys a
- 51:55little bit of Nico Jones on Friday like we did in the OG
- 51:59Simply Bitcoin Days. Opti, what's your take on all
- 52:02this, brother? Well, First off, Nico Jones is
- 52:04back. It's been a while.
- 52:06It's been a while since Nico Jones has been on the show.
- 52:11I think we finally got him back. You know, he he was hibernating
- 52:13during the bear market, but the kid is back.
- 52:17Honestly, before I kind of, you know, take give my take.
- 52:20I mean Nico nailed it. So but I do want to mention like
- 52:24this morning, while we were we were all sitting here.
- 52:26We're we're in Dallas, Airbnb, the whole simply Bitcoin team is
- 52:29is sitting here and we were watching CNBC and we're seeing
- 52:32the bloody markets. We're seeing Bitcoin kind of,
- 52:34you know, hold itself really well.
- 52:35And the vibe that Nico just put out is the vibe we had here in
- 52:39the morning and we're just sitting here like, man, like I'm
- 52:41finally feeling excited again. It's been a, it's been a rough
- 52:45year or two here in the Bitcoin space where we have so much
- 52:48bullish news. And right now, I think we're all
- 52:51more bullish on things happening outside of Bitcoin and then just
- 52:54how strong Bitcoin is reacting. And we're all sitting here
- 52:56watching the news. Ruston was you guys watch
- 52:59Ruston's show. He was doing that just here
- 53:01chilling with us. He was losing his mind.
- 53:03He's losing his mind on the back end right now.
- 53:05And I I think we're all getting more and more excited
- 53:08considering the economic landscape.
- 53:11Breaking news Breaking. Rustin is going to pull up a
- 53:14chair and Rustin. Rustin, pull up a chair, bro.
- 53:19Pull up a chair. Rustin, get in here.
- 53:21Rustin get in here, bro. Sonny was Opti.
- 53:24What were you saying? I I got, I got sidetracked.
- 53:27I'm I'm trying to find what Rustin just sent us.
- 53:31All right, let me see. Rustin, what are you sending?
- 53:34What are we looking for? Oh, oh, we got.
- 53:37Breaks in the water. We got breaking.
- 53:39We got breaking news from one of the latest interviews with Scott
- 53:43Besson, the US Treasury Secretary.
- 53:47Bitcoin is. Becoming a store value.
- 53:49It's an hour long clip. Bitcoin is.
- 53:53Becoming a store value. The Treasury Secretary on one of
- 53:56the most watched shows on the face of the planet, Tucker, the
- 54:01Tucker Carlson show just said, quote, Bitcoin is becoming a
- 54:07store of value. So again, I'm trying to point
- 54:11and our boy Ruston actually knows a lot of things about
- 54:14Scott Besson. Ruston, let's, let's fill.
- 54:17Let's fill in the audience, bro. Yesterday we dove into Besson
- 54:20quite a bit. I've been sitting on this and,
- 54:23you know, being kind of a regarded person like myself, I
- 54:27need something, someone kind of intelligent to support my ideas.
- 54:31And Marty Bent basically came out and said what I've been
- 54:34telling Nico for the past couple of months here on Besant and all
- 54:40the moves, the strategy, the absolute savagery of this man.
- 54:46If you know his background and if you understand what Bitcoin
- 54:49is and how it could work and how you could use it as a macro
- 54:54weapon against your enemies, I don't know, man, this, this
- 54:59stuff is. And I just saw another thing, if
- 55:01we look at the movement of Bitcoin today against the S&P
- 55:05dropping further a little bit of a decoupling, but obviously
- 55:09there are massive Bitcoin buyers out there right now.
- 55:12That's why we're at 83 and everything else is getting
- 55:15absolutely destroyed. They are subtly telegraphing
- 55:19some major moves here. I think, Nico, and I think
- 55:22you've just been nailing, I've been listening the whole time.
- 55:25You guys are killing it. And this besant news is big.
- 55:28I can't wait to dive into that interview because I think it's
- 55:32just crazy. We, we were talking about how
- 55:34the the tariffs were going to be used not just as tariff, but
- 55:37also as a weapon to force free trade.
- 55:40And you see some countries already bending the knee there
- 55:43and where Bitcoin fits in to this.
- 55:45Everyone's looking for that neutral monetary system, and it
- 55:49feels like they're pushing everyone in this direction. 100%
- 55:54I mean, it's, it's, it's crazy. It's cryptic, though, Ruston.
- 55:58It's cryptic because they're not explicitly saying these things.
- 56:02But for anyone who's paying attention and you start
- 56:04connecting the dots, it's very clear what their intent is.
- 56:08What was one of the most savage things that Besson said?
- 56:11You, you showed me the clip. The thing was like.
- 56:13Just raise love where he said sounds like a mag Seven problem.
- 56:17You know, but. There was something, there was
- 56:18something else. I think it was Dante that played
- 56:20the clip this morning. So would that be you elevate the
- 56:26situation, escalate to deescalate?
- 56:29Yeah, maybe. I can find that he was basically
- 56:32warning the world like look like if, if don't mess with us, we're
- 56:38going to raise these tariffs. The whole point of raising these
- 56:40tariffs is so that there is a essentially it's, it's neutral
- 56:45trading across the across the world.
- 56:47If you don't mess with us, we won't mess with you.
- 56:50That's the goal. So again, we're witnessing.
- 56:53Have the muscle as one of the largest consumers there.
- 56:57There's some of that too. So oh, you're going to going to
- 56:59try to counter. Well, you're just hitting your
- 57:01own wallets as well. So this is what people don't
- 57:04understand like, like people have been tariffing US 304050
- 57:09sixty 8090% and we haven't tariffed them.
- 57:13And why has that been going on? Why have we been subsidizing
- 57:16other nations basically all this time?
- 57:19Doesn't that seem like a little sketchy maybe, You know, those
- 57:23came post, post 19, post 1913. You have to end and then you
- 57:29have to institute an income tax, right.
- 57:31Well, you don't need that anymore with where they're going
- 57:36and where they're pushing things.
- 57:38And I think they're they're they.
- 57:40Yeah, as you've said, the subtle hints, the the constant
- 57:43mentioning of 1913 by the orange man whose hotels are encrusted
- 57:48in gold, like he doesn't know hard assets or sound money.
- 57:53I think it's all coming together.
- 57:55It seems like it's all part of the plan in in some ways.
- 58:00A A 100% like it. It sure does feel like that.
- 58:03And now there is a a very famous clip.
- 58:06Of yeah, let's play the the best.
- 58:07One, yeah. There's.
- 58:09Some time stamps. There we go.
- 58:11And should we view these as permanent?
- 58:13That, you know, again, I, I think we're going to wait and
- 58:17see how this plays out. And if countries retaliate,
- 58:21which some have said that they would, some have said they
- 58:23wanted to wait and see, what is the White House's response going
- 58:26to be to those countries? Well, the, the Caitlin one, one
- 58:30of the messages that I'd like to get out tonight is everybody sit
- 58:33back, take a deep breath. Don't immediately retaliate.
- 58:37Let's see where this goes. Because if you retaliate, that's
- 58:40how we get escalation. And then it becomes a
- 58:43full-fledged trade war in your view?
- 58:45Not a not a trade war depends on the country, but remember that
- 58:50the that the history of trade is we are the deficit country.
- 58:58The deficit country has an advantage.
- 59:00They are the surplus countries. The surplus countries
- 59:03traditionally always lose any kind of a trade escalation.
- 59:06So I. So I mean, look it, it's, it's
- 59:10clear as day. I also want to show you guys
- 59:12this right again, we're connecting the dots for you
- 59:15guys. Guys, please make your own
- 59:16decision. Is there my personal opinions?
- 59:19This are Ruston's personal opinions.
- 59:20These are Opti's personal opinions.
- 59:22We are speculating, but we are, we are simply Bitcoin,
- 59:25tomorrow's Bitcoin news today. We, we've been more right, more
- 59:29we've been more right than wrong.
- 59:31One thing. Is like when you have that right
- 59:33and then the, the the actions continue or these events take
- 59:37place and then the probabilities just keep going up rather than
- 59:41dwindling. So it's just that that type of
- 59:43thing. 100% and then I want to show you guys this before we
- 59:46move on to the culture segment. So of course we know that
- 59:50President Trump and Bukele met. They're getting along really,
- 59:54really well. And remember one of the things
- 59:57that Bukele said, we don't have enough time to play you guys a
- 59:59clip, but we will drop it in the live chat.
- 1:00:02But one of the things that Bukele said in a.
- 1:00:06A speech at C PAC. This is a quote from President
- 1:00:09Buchele. You pay taxes only to uphold the
- 1:00:14illusion that you are funding the government, which you are
- 1:00:18not, right? Moving the Overton window.
- 1:00:22We're shifting it. I think people are waking up to
- 1:00:25this reality. And again, all roads lead to
- 1:00:29Bitcoin. This is the president of the
- 1:00:32first Bitcoin country. Look at how much the IMF fought
- 1:00:36El Salvador. What are they scared of?
- 1:00:39Why are they scared of Bitcoin? Why are they scared of this
- 1:00:43small Central American nation that has AGDP of $32 billion?
- 1:00:48Why are they so terrified that Bitcoin is legal tender?
- 1:00:52And the reason is simple. Bitcoin proves that money can
- 1:00:57exist with all with without inflation.
- 1:01:00All you guys have to do is connect the dots.
- 1:01:02The answers are right in front of you.
- 1:01:04It's very simple. It's very simple.
- 1:01:07Also, Nico, the IMF is here to enslave people, not to empower
- 1:01:11people, and that's what Bitcoin does.
- 1:01:14Like, you know, to to add to Russians point, it sure does
- 1:01:17feel like that. Like why is the IMF telling a
- 1:01:21sovereign country that democratically elected their
- 1:01:24leader, their leader has the most, the highest popularity
- 1:01:28popularity percentage in out of any president in in all of the
- 1:01:33Americas? Why is the IMF dictating to a
- 1:01:36sovereign country what they can and cannot do with their money?
- 1:01:41So what, what what Ruston is saying might sound hyperbolic on
- 1:01:45its on the surface, but take a look at the actions of the IMF.
- 1:01:50What is that but not but not servitude?
- 1:01:53What sharks? What is that but not servitude?
- 1:01:55Right again. Anyways, guys, we're going to
- 1:01:57get to the culture segment. We still have a hell of a show
- 1:02:00for you guys. We're going to be right back.
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- 1:05:17to talk about during the culture today?
- 1:05:18Yes, thank you. So last night we went to the
- 1:05:22first Bitlock boom dinner and many of the conversations that
- 1:05:26we were having was, or rather a lot of people asking me, and
- 1:05:29we've been having this conversation all week on the
- 1:05:31show, is this idea of the four year cycle?
- 1:05:33Everyone's like, is the four year cycle over?
- 1:05:36Are we seeing the commodity cycle?
- 1:05:37And I know I was having a a super bearish conversation with
- 1:05:41Stefan Lavera and he's like diminishing returns Bros.
- 1:05:44And I don't know, as Russian just said a minute ago, you
- 1:05:48know, since I have a 45 IQ, I make some, you know,
- 1:05:51predictions. But when smarter people say the
- 1:05:53same thing that I say, that's how I know I'm right.
- 1:05:56I'm obviously confirming my own bias.
- 1:05:58But here we have Arthur Hayes and he seems to be saying what
- 1:06:02we we've been saying on the show that we might be entering a new
- 1:06:06cycle and not the four year cycle.
- 1:06:07So let's hear this and then we'll chat about it.
- 1:06:10And it also seems like on this morning that Bitcoin is
- 1:06:14decoupling from the S&P 500. It seems like we are finally
- 1:06:18seeing the decoupling happen. Obviously we need a little more
- 1:06:21data, but let's just play the clip and then rust in at myself
- 1:06:23and Nico will talk. About it so I think that.
- 1:06:27The Four. Year Bitcoin having a cycle and
- 1:06:30sort of the minor profitability and how that swings over time
- 1:06:34made a lot more sense in terms of a market cycle when Bitcoin
- 1:06:39was a much smaller asset class. And I guess in crypto and
- 1:06:42general, because with Bitcoin goes, everything else follows.
- 1:06:46But now that Bitcoin and crypto are a bona fide asset class, you
- 1:06:50know, they're talked about in every major financial network in
- 1:06:53the world. Every central bank has an
- 1:06:55opinion on it, whether it's good or it's bad.
- 1:06:57You have the leader of the empire of the US talking about
- 1:07:00Bitcoin and policies and, you know, everybody's responding
- 1:07:03with that sort of stuff. So now I think Bitcoin has
- 1:07:06transitioned from this sort of technological digital bear asset
- 1:07:11into the best smoke alarm for Fiat liquidity that we have
- 1:07:15globally. Previously that will sell by
- 1:07:18gold. Gold and Bitcoin has some
- 1:07:20different properties that make them react a little bit
- 1:07:22differently to things. And now I think we have a 24/7
- 1:07:25market. Anyone with an Internet
- 1:07:27connection can access it. Absolutely incredible.
- 1:07:33I think this is a spot on take. We've been kind of covering this
- 1:07:36it from different angles and, and I think, I think Arthur is,
- 1:07:40is 100% correct here And my boy CJI think we put it on our, our
- 1:07:44YouTube already. Maybe I, I'm, you know, I'm
- 1:07:46missing missing dates here, but he's saying something similar.
- 1:07:49Now we're seeing a lot of people in, in, you know, in or around
- 1:07:53Bitcoin asking a very similar question.
- 1:07:55What is going on with Bitcoin? Why is it trading with
- 1:07:57traditional markets? And then we see Sailor
- 1:08:00essentially destroyed Dave Portnoy this morning or
- 1:08:03actually, sorry, it was last night very, very clearly.
- 1:08:05And some people were saying maybe he's using ChatGPT for
- 1:08:07this, but who knows. Anyways, the the response is
- 1:08:09great. So we have Dave partner and he
- 1:08:11goes, I have a dumb Bitcoin question.
- 1:08:13If the point of Bitcoin is to be independent of the US dollar and
- 1:08:15non regulated, why does it basically trade exactly like the
- 1:08:19US stock market nowadays? Mark it up, Bitcoin up, mark it
- 1:08:22down, Bitcoin down. And then Sailor goes Bitcoin
- 1:08:24trades like a risk asset short term because it's the most
- 1:08:27liquid saleable 24/7 acid on earth.
- 1:08:30In times of panic, traders sell what they can, not what they
- 1:08:33want to. Doesn't mean it's correlated
- 1:08:34long term, just means it's always available.
- 1:08:37Now moving forward this morning we're also seeing something very
- 1:08:42interesting. Bitcoin priced in NASDAQ
- 1:08:44breaking back above 2021 highs. Wow.
- 1:08:48You know, NASDAQ and S&P 500 are getting absolutely wrecked.
- 1:08:52And Pete Rizzo dropped this this morning.
- 1:08:54Bitcoin just broke its correlation with the S&P.
- 1:08:57This is not priced in fire emoji.
- 1:08:59And you can see some numbers here, you know, March 1220, 20,
- 1:09:03when S&P dropped 9.51%, Bitcoin dropped 39%, and then they got
- 1:09:09the Bitcoin versus S&P ratio. Now, you know, you can look at
- 1:09:12these charts, you can pause it and going forward to yesterday,
- 1:09:15or rather, yeah, yesterday and today.
- 1:09:19So April 3rd, 2025, S&P 500 went down -4.8%.
- 1:09:23Today or yesterday, sorry, Bitcoin went down 5.7%.
- 1:09:27And today, which is the big, I think the big signal, the big
- 1:09:30kahuna in the room here. And this might be the
- 1:09:33fundamental shift we're seeing right now.
- 1:09:36S&P 500 went down -3% and Bitcoin stayed pretty solid at a
- 1:09:41positive .77%. Obviously, a lot of bitcoiners
- 1:09:45want the price to RIP, but in the face of economic
- 1:09:48uncertainty, Bitcoin is just holding it down right now.
- 1:09:51And our. Yeah, which is absolutely crazy.
- 1:09:54And and we've been saying this the whole show, we this is, you
- 1:09:57know, we're just giving you some more data points on to this same
- 1:10:00fundamental message. And Vijay, like always, I think
- 1:10:04killed it in the face of yet another major global equity sell
- 1:10:07off, Bitcoin is acting extremely resilient.
- 1:10:10All those people complaining that Bitcoin was just moving
- 1:10:12with tech stocks. Here is your answer, guys.
- 1:10:15We were having this conversation last.
- 1:10:17Well, rather, I was having this conversation with people last
- 1:10:20night and we keep kind of pointing at different directions
- 1:10:23or different data points. We obviously have no clue
- 1:10:26exactly what's going on. But from what we can speculate,
- 1:10:29from what we can see, from what we can work out from first
- 1:10:32principles, it seems like we are getting another scenario, almost
- 1:10:36like the birth of Bitcoin in 2008.
- 1:10:39You know, 2020 was a brutal year, but now if we're seeing
- 1:10:43one of the biggest sell off since 2020 and Bitcoin is
- 1:10:45reacting in a totally different way.
- 1:10:48Yeah, a totally different, different, you know, market
- 1:10:51structure. I don't know guys, it does seem
- 1:10:55like this, you know, four year cycle might be over.
- 1:10:57Obviously we want to see the price pump because this is the
- 1:11:00year of 2025, this is the year of the pump and we're still all
- 1:11:03thinking, hey, I think, you know, 200K ish by the end of the
- 1:11:07year could play out. But maybe, you know, we're going
- 1:11:10to see not not a necessarily a diminishing returns, but a
- 1:11:13longer extended cycle. And if that is true, then the
- 1:11:17cycle theory will break in a different way and we'll see you
- 1:11:20maybe a new all time high in 2026.
- 1:11:22Who who knows what's really going on yet we'll obviously can
- 1:11:25only see what's happening in hindsight, but in in the interim
- 1:11:30man, it does seem like Bitcoin has decoupled at least today
- 1:11:33it's it's acting very very strong right now, even though
- 1:11:37the world is melting 84. 1000 Holding strong again The S&P.
- 1:11:43The the S&P list hit it. Rustin hit it.
- 1:11:47All right, all right, so this is absolutely crazy.
- 1:11:49So 2020, you guys remember that that was around the time that I
- 1:11:53like first like bought Bitcoin because like I was like, how is
- 1:11:58it still alive and everyone was talking about it crashing, but I
- 1:12:01was like I remembered it at like 300 bucks.
- 1:12:04I was like this is nuts dude. I need to buy some of this shit.
- 1:12:07But anyway, think about that. The market sentiment around the
- 1:12:11world is like completely in the shitter and Bitcoin is still
- 1:12:15slowly chugging along and even just to maintain where it is
- 1:12:19right now is absolutely insane, which says of that 3.5 trillion
- 1:12:24that left the S&P 500, it's likely that portions of that are
- 1:12:29already entering or big buyers are already there.
- 1:12:32Now we talked about this prolonged cycle.
- 1:12:35That's going to depend on how how long J Pal is going to be
- 1:12:39playing it, playing it tough over here.
- 1:12:41Once he folds, it's over. So that's where you could get.
- 1:12:44They're playing a game of chicken right now.
- 1:12:46Yeah, 100%. They're playing a game of
- 1:12:48chicken. But I mean, I mean Arthur.
- 1:12:50So you played a clip of Arthur just recently, Opti, you know,
- 1:12:53Arthur dropped a very, very good article called the BBC, you
- 1:12:58know, a couple days ago. We read you guys, a lot of it
- 1:13:00isn't family friendly, a lot of the, the, the rhetoric that he
- 1:13:03used in that article. But essentially he was making
- 1:13:06the case that, you know, Pow was beholden to Besset, you know,
- 1:13:11eventually and Besset knows it. And essentially we've been
- 1:13:15making the case. We picked this up actually a
- 1:13:18couple of weeks ago. We've been making the case here
- 1:13:20at simply for a while now that essentially Trump is doing this
- 1:13:24on purpose. Because without essentially the
- 1:13:28Fed going along with Trump, Trump can't fulfill his agenda.
- 1:13:33He needs the money printer. But right now, essentially,
- 1:13:36Powell has the cover of, oh, inflation to justify the rates
- 1:13:41remaining high, right? So essentially, you know what
- 1:13:44what we are. Speculating the last two
- 1:13:46readings has come down. Exactly.
- 1:13:48So like we've been making the cases like look like Trump is
- 1:13:51essentially forcing the hand of the Fed.
- 1:13:53But it's really interesting that the Fed came out with that
- 1:13:56statement earlier on saying, listen, the tariffs are going to
- 1:13:59cause inflation. Now is that just grandstanding
- 1:14:02it? You know, is, is Powell trying
- 1:14:03to essentially, you know, but make it seem that, you know, the
- 1:14:07Fed remains independent, but in reality, the Fed is going to act
- 1:14:10some, act something out differently.
- 1:14:12That could be the case. I think that's what Arthur
- 1:14:14believes. But we shall see.
- 1:14:16I mean, but it's, it's crazy that there's so much politics
- 1:14:19involved. Driving even more attention to
- 1:14:21the fact that they are politicized and aren't
- 1:14:23independent indirectly. It's a it's a politicized
- 1:14:27institution. And again, they're they have
- 1:14:30bankroll. And it's not federal and has no
- 1:14:32reserves. There we go, there we go.
- 1:14:34Let's continue moving this this Overton window.
- 1:14:37But yes, the TLDR from today's show, all right, The TLDR from
- 1:14:41today's show is yes, we got a pro Bitcoin president in the
- 1:14:45White House. Now we need a bitcoiner in the
- 1:14:48White House. And when that Bitcoiner in the
- 1:14:50White House, the main goal of that bitcoiner should be to
- 1:14:53Andrew Jackson, 2 point O and the Federal Reserve.
- 1:14:56That's what we need to do. Yeah, I miss Nico Jones.
- 1:15:02Whose bust? Hangs in the orange man's.
- 1:15:04Office, this is true. If you know, you know what what?
- 1:15:07Hold on, keep going because I do kind of want to pivot a little
- 1:15:10bit. There we go.
- 1:15:10Like, okay, so do you think he just has that painting there for
- 1:15:13for, you know, for shits and giggles?
- 1:15:15Like it's on purpose? Like guys, there's two he he
- 1:15:19name dropped the year 1913 and what was it that he said he was
- 1:15:23like for? Reasons unknown to mankind of.
- 1:15:27Course, we all know. We all know what the hell What
- 1:15:29happened in Jekyll Island? What happened?
- 1:15:32Go read 13 What happened, everybody?
- 1:15:34Go read The Creature from Jekyll Island and you'll know exactly
- 1:15:38what happened in 1913 I. Have the two largest world wars
- 1:15:42in the world. Why have they happened since the
- 1:15:45establishment of the Federal Reserve?
- 1:15:47Why, why, why is all, why are all these things happening
- 1:15:50again? I think a lot of people have
- 1:15:53known this for a while. I mean, some people, Ron Paul,
- 1:15:56who is the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island, G
- 1:15:58Edward Griffin, G Edward Griffin, and people like Rustin
- 1:16:01and Goldbugs, Larry Leopard. Also, there's been a lot of
- 1:16:05people that have known this for a while, right?
- 1:16:0945 IQ. 18 year old OPDE, we now have the solution.
- 1:16:13We now have the solution to replace this right there.
- 1:16:16There was this very famous, very famous Thomas Sowell video where
- 1:16:21they asked him like, so you know, when we get rid of the
- 1:16:24Federal Reserve, like what do we replace it with?
- 1:16:27And Thomas Sowell was like very wisely said, he's like, you
- 1:16:30know, when you cut out a cancer, you don't replace it, right?
- 1:16:35So again I'm moving the Overton window yes great we got a pro
- 1:16:40Bitcoin president. He's done so good repeal of SAB
- 1:16:43121 and of operation choke .2 point O free free Ross Albrecht
- 1:16:47strategic Bitcoin reserve. But now we need a bitcoiner and
- 1:16:52the White House with the goal of ending central banking.
- 1:16:57We end central banking. We end, we, we free the human
- 1:17:00race, simple as that. Anyways, we hit we hit 250
- 1:17:05likes, guys, smash that like button.
- 1:17:08We're getting close to the end of the show, guys.
- 1:17:10We're going to be live streaming all of bit block Boom tomorrow.
- 1:17:14We're going to be at the news desk, me and Opti from very,
- 1:17:17very early in the morning, 9:00 AM central time.
- 1:17:20We're going to be live streaming all the awesome panels.
- 1:17:24How how many, what what people do we have on tomorrow?
- 1:17:26We have Marty Bent. We have Larry Leopard.
- 1:17:29We have Dante. We have Dante.
- 1:17:31Parker Lewis Yeah, we got we, we got it's, it's going to be an
- 1:17:35incredible, incredible conference.
- 1:17:37You guys definitely don't want to miss it.
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