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Talks to Mark Rawlins about his choice of The Android Invasion (3/4) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  The Doctor Who commentary podcast.
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  Hello, hello? You're looking a bit Sinister
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  right now. Why a certain look in your eye.
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  Is my face going to fall off. It stopped coming towards me
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  like this. Get back, Mark.
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  You know, I knew the real Mark wasn't wearing the scarf.
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  Little, little little little bit.
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  What if you don't pick Mark? I better.
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  Stop the right. Yeah.
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  So get it. And so yeah, we get the joke.
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  Yeah. Excuse me.
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  That's normally you want to watch you doing that thing.
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  I know that's how he won. Rolling her eyes at use that.
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  Are you rolling your eyes at me? I'm exchange.
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  You know, it feels light and Chuck.
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  She gave her a listen to this. Well, it's been a little while
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  since we recorded Android Invasion episodes 12 hasn't it?
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  Yeah, it has. Yes.
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  In real time, yes, we'll try and smooth over the gap.
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  Yes, none will know any difference.
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  That's right we just for some extra little bit of episode 2
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  and fuck me. You got be indulgent listen to
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  this shit. I'll tell ya.
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  So if you would indulge me if you could, please enlighten, the
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  viewers or listeners even of exactly what has occurred in the
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  Android evasion to date, well, previously on Doctor, Who The
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  Doctor and Sarah found this. Well, landed in this strange
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  Village. Well, not strange.
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  It's very seems you'll be well, it seems normal at first and
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  then everyone in the pub was actually being funny with this
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  unit guy that fell off the cliff and was back in the pub.
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  Anyway, it's an Android Invasion, it's an Android
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  Village and the crawls. A duplicate Village duplicate
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  Village of Androids, and the coral, and the doctor has just
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  confronted Sarah. And I feel like you're just
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  saying random plot B. Yeah.
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  Any kind of territorial? We all know what's happening.
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  There's literally no point. You're just going, it's an
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  Android version. It's an Android Village and the
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  crawl. But I sounded like that's
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  exactly how Terry Nation pitched it.
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  Yeah there's an Android version dr.
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  Sara lad and there's an invasion of of Androids and it's a white
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  featureless Corridor, and the curls are alien monsters, your
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  design. And come up with the actual
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  concept for me. Robert, I was sitting there with
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  his pipe, looking it in very strange.
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  Again, I'll just write it down. All right?
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  I'll turn it into a four-part doctor who story some very good
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  Cliffhangers. I think I do like Terry Nation,
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  though. He's my favorite writer, what
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  couldn't we just unpack? This a little bit before we go
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  in. Is it that what the general
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  pretentiousness of his writing or the adventurousness of his
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  writing? It's your Classic.
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  Fun. Action adventure plot.
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  Isn't it? So can I you don't have to
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  overthink Terry Nations very much.
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  Do you? And you know where you are with?
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  You don't think at all. Usually when you're watching
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  Terran, a plan other dialects. Yeah, exactly is Comfort talk
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  to, who isn't it? He does so well.
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  And I do you like, I don't think and I know I always say this
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  about everything. I just don't think you put it
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  didn't exactly put tons of effort in any way.
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  I don't think, you know, because he uses the same plot points
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  again and again, but that's fine.
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  That's fun. He's got other things to do.
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  He's busy Trying to launch the Daleks in America hasn't got
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  time to keep writing. Inventive, creative scripts all
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  the time. I think Carrie Nation is Jay
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  Garrick, Terry Nation. Harry they Sherry Nation
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  relations. I am Terry Nation, right?
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  It's generally as good as his script editor, so I think back
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  in the Daleks and Dalek invasion of Earth, just lovely.
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  Carrie Nation. Now, in Carrie Nation to nation
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  of the shops, the other day. Sorry, Carry On.
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  You may be very serious points towards this point, this point.
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  Yeah. So the think.
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  Yeah. So you got David Whittaker
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  during the first two, the first time.
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  And I think it's like there are a lot of character moments in
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  the Daleks and That like the Dalek invasion of Earth, David
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  Whittaker, and Betty Whitaker. All right, Kari, witzger well
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  right, when determination come next.
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  Oh yeah, then you got Chuck that you have to start this thing
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  again. No, keep going.
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  I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But John Wall's coming into Alex
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  master plan and suddenly, it's very serious and people are
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  dying all over the place. Yeah, and then what was off.
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  For that. What you have for?
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  Then we have a big gap, don't win.
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  It's we don't go back to Planet adults to that, it's Terrance
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  dicks and is all sort of fun Pacey Adventure.
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  Then you got Robert, Holmes doing Genesis of the Daleks and
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  that is much more serious moral debate.
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  Some things like this, you know that before from Terry nation
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  and now you've got Android Invasion.
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  Exactly. Yeah.
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  I do take your point, you know, it does depend too because
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  because he's not really putting in the those extra bits and
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  pieces for each. For example, I can't remember.
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  Mentioned this will not last time, this whole face Sarah's
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  face, coming off was Philip Hinchcliffe interests.
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  It was Philip hinge Clips idea. We were drinking all this time
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  because it was his idea because I would love to know what Terry
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  Nation did. The end of it is, I think it was
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  just old Sarah. You're A duplicate and then
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  there was a shock but then Philip Hinchcliffe was all about
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  the Cliffhangers, wasn't me, either.
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  He added in. Oh, something more dramatic
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  needs to have what would it have been before?
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  Well, I think he would just have confronted, Sarah and said, the
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  gun really real. And she had a gun, get back up
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  there and that's it. Yeah.
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  But it's those extra bits actually.
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  A lot of those extra bits are probably the more memorable B
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  than actually what Terry nation was doing.
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  Well, there's a very famous story about Terry Nation turning
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  up at John Wall. His house.
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  No Donald Tasha's house with a very thought of five Bits of
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  Paper and he's like, oh yeah, I think pecten56 scripts of the
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  Daleks master plan and it's and it's the issue written on the
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  back of the packet. He jumps in his car and goes,
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  I'm off to a lot of off to America tomorrow.
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  I mean, that's when I'll talk about her Nation.
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  That's what I, that's the idea of him in my head.
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  I mean, I don't actually know but that's the concept I have is
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  that he's just, I'll just write this out in whatever he writes
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  is brilliant and it's great TV but he doesn't, maybe put That
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  in integrating skill to have. You're right though he does
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  right in Broad Strokes. Did he do that in his other
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  shows as well? Do you think?
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  Did he do like Adventure Avengers and stated lies?
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  Yeah, I don't wonder if you took the same thing, Temple, the say,
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  yeah, and all that stuff. Not only watched his other
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  stuff. So I bet it's pretty similar, I
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  think, because apparently he's like, working on film as well.
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  So the things and up for back of his mind, are like, strong
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  potent imagery. Like I don't know the village,
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  the Faith Village. Um, strong ideas like survivors
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  the plague wiping out the world, Blake's 7, the Federation on the
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  bad guys, things like that. He works with a good strong
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  concept and lots of action on film.
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  I think that's where his brain is.
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  And then the script area is fill in all the rest.
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  Yeah, I think. So, depending on what series,
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  and those little intricacies of the other Series?
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  Yeah, she knows the modern-day termination.
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  Don't ya. Who was Nicholas Briggs?
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  Isn't it? Oh, don't start.
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  What? Like big finish.
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  Yeah. What do you thinks of it it with
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  an action head and you know, you can't even relate or well, as we
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  go in, let's talk about the Kroll's appearance in big
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  finish. I think you've termination was
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  Ryan audios. Now, we've been a lot of
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  trouble. I'm telling you, I don't know
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  about that characterization dialogue and I think
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  characterization and dialogue are Tara nation's greatest
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  strengths. Well, she was going to have so
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  free. Let's go.
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  Everyone, I'm going to count us all in when I find the right.
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  That's right. Okay.
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  Here we go. Android Invasion by Terry Nation
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  to Nation. Carrie Nation Terry's arm.
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  Yeah 3, here we go. Well yeah so the crowds did turn
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  up, didn't they? Big finish in the side and
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  eventually to an eventual? Your thoughts on that, which is
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  a fourth doctor and Lila story Allen Barnes script and it
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  weren't any good. It was in the same season where
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  Terry Nation, no, no. Termination of have any facts
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  straight now. Where Nicholas Briggs wrote
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  destination. Nerva I'm all done.
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  I'm sorry. But what did it do anything
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  different with the Kroll's? Remember you ever anything about
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  it? Well, no, I couldn't remember so
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  Source. However, I've okay.
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  So now involves screw, you got a chair.
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  I think I'm memorable, is how you basically describe another
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  script of this, right? The reprise, his face is just
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  come off again. You know, the bit where she sits
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  up and the faces a bit wobbly? It's Right.
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  I think the eyes make these Androids.
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  Yeah, the eyeball because it could have been more of a robot
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  type, I but the sort of more human-like eyes, amongst all the
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  circuitry I do that makes just a stronger in this doesn't Michael
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  her sitting out there. I know it's another dodgy but
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  no, I think that's even better because it's some dodgy really
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  dodgy mannequin with a gun. I think that's even what that's
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  a little bit scary, but very let's cut away the North Conway
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  coughing because all you know is, you know, So in critical
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  critical Barry let's now no. Nothing that would bring us give
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  it to relation of Barry Letts. I mean this is literally your
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  dream come true. This is it is that's why it's
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  one of my favorite. I see.
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  Oh no. So now this is where we've got
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  loads of sequences of the crawls.
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  Crawls are there. I think when you see three, do
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  we other supposed to be more and they trying to do this clever
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  thing where there's more. There's only because It's the
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  two that have names is there shiitake and sticker online
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  sticker on. And then number three.
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  Yeah. I've been to the third one.
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  Yeah. That's just my, so we don't see
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  him again. There's any for the purpose of
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  this. Maybe they'll even Beyond didn't
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  like him. Wanda who played the third,
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  where you go out of that, guy's that quarry.
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  Now, it's not a village in Morgan.
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  Stand out there, we won't leave in a spaceship we promised and
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  off, they go. But this is where it all gets a
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  bit less on film, and More in studio.
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  Do you crawls heart 3 syndrome? Well, there is some good stuff
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  in part for, you know, I think all the stuff when they go back
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  out to the Village again, they tie the doctor up to the
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  Obelisk. That's all really good stuff.
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  Oh, yeah, we do have them bits of Village, don't we?
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  What can you tell me that just wondering about the mini-quiche.
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  There's a man with a hat wondering about and then there's
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  the one now. We invite people.
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  We know this is all the audience now knows what's going on like
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  it more now. So now you think is something as
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  a different feel? Now we know it's a duplicate
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  Village, I think so now they can be a bit, even more obvious with
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  things, can't they okay? You know, and the doctrine
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  because the doctor knows is in day, he's not walking up to me.
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  Hello there. Good afternoon.
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  He's like I'll I'll crush your voice.
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  Yeah, well I mean they brought all these Villages along in this
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  van right. Put them in the pub.
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  Yeah and now they're taking them all off again.
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  Well, beyond the fact that we needed a fantastic set piece for
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  the Android Invasion Doctor. Who story?
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  Why did they do that? So they brought the morning.
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  They made all these villagers, brought them all in and went go
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  in the pub because they wanted to test them out to make sure
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  that they behaved and they were working properly, and now
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  they've done that. Test.
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  They're loading them up. And they're off to go to be
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  putting their pods ready for actual real Earth.
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  They've been tested at. It's a test center, isn't it?
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  Okay, I'm just finding flaws. So, I what they're going to put
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  all of the Androids inside. Those sort of salt on upholds, a
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  van full of people sense of what and then, and then the white man
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  take over what everybody with the poison Invasion of the Body
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  Snatchers. It's the poison all about then.
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  Oh, oh sorry. Yes, so all the Angels Take He's
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  poison goes out real people, die Androids their takeover.
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  Yeah, so they'll kill them. Have you seen the film the
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  actual, obviously, what? This is based on what his
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  motivation, the Body Snatchers, a teach it in the 70s when we
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  Donald Sutherland to the ending. We're in one of my favorite from
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  would Leonard Nimoy. Yeah, it's fantastic film.
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  But this is the ending everyone else and it where she's going
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  she's going. That was terrifying.
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  That was one of my favorite films of the child.
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  I'm very sorry to interrupt you, but I'm going to have to point
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  out. Tom Baker is currently walking
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  around the village, right? And stick Rod is about to come
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  up behind him. Yeah, it's okay.
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  Try to film this scene where Mark in each tag board and to
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  get you to understand my Direction.
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  All right, Mark, I'm gonna come up behind.
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  You, don't be scared. Oh, it was embarrassing because
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  I've sweat over Village. As you're peeking through their
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  care. And so I'm all those people
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  doing in the street. Why is that bad coming up right
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  away? You brought some IV to tie me up
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  to that obvious. Where did you get that from some
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  you bought fake Ivy? Yeah, you can get it in like
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  done a Miller wherever dialogue. I see I quite like house to God
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  looks on location. It much better, isn't it?
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  And if you know is he sort of playing a bit Hunchback of
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  Notre, Dame me, but do you think this they did all this.
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  They would have done this filming first before.
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  Yeah this is actual first performance so he's really going
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  for it and then by the time they get to the studio, it's
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  something doesn't really come across.
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  He's totally these girls were all on film Martin.
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  What's his face? We placed in release on the
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  commentary and he's cute as hell.
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  And he was kind of just a know how to play this thing.
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  This Ron austar, a scientist, he goes.
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  So I thought I'd just go full on Hunchback of Notre Dame.
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  Well, they've actually given him a hunchback in the costume and
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  from there he is but he is Igor in it a bit though, as well,
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  just the walk into Eagle, know y'all go Eagles from Count
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  Dracula and I think well I guess I know who you mean.
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  Now, this is the iconic. This isn't it?
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  Him on top. Tied up to the Obelisk and her
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  and the artwork for the VHS release of this is great.
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  Listen I think I thought his covers from amazing.
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  Yeah. Well they try.
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  You can keep that one. You know.
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  I have. I've got it.
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  You got that one? Yeah, of course.
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  Okay. What all of you say?
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  This shit is when I was tied up to you.
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  You tied me up quite aggressively to that.
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  Obelisk. Honest are so turned on.
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  I can tell so we're in public as well.
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  You know, officially that's talking.
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  Oh sorry, okay, I'm gonna stop talking.
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  What am I talking about? I love this slow motion, Barry.
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  Let's don't go with the slow motion too often.
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  Does he? And you've got Sarah, Jane and
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  the doctor doing very exaggerated movements to make
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  that slow motion. Look incredible.
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  I think this is a nice affection.
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  I would the village. It's clever.
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  I mean officer. I think this is a bit bright for
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  it, but I mean, imagine if I'd landed it landed here on this
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  Sandy juice. And I've made it onto the I'm
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  sort of the Crowell ship ship. We never see the ship though.
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  Do we know Terror of the zygons gave us the zygons ship but
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  Android invasion is doesn't just see a hole in the bush and then
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  suddenly that's a ship. Hold on.
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  The bush. Did you say?
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  I think we don't hold in the bush disgusting.
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  Okay, so now why they suddenly just decided to go now.
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  It's what I think they were one. They were ready and to they knew
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  the doctor was sort of in starting to interfere a bit so
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  we take the supplement. Yeah but you know what, one of
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  my big complaints about fourth of Doomsday was yeah, that it
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  was set for to Doomsday whereas you know, like all the drama is
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  that doomsday is when they get to the Earth and try and take
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  over. Well, Android Invasion gives us
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  the 42 B, all their pre-planning, which is what
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  we've seen for the first two episodes and now it even shows
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  us The Invasion as well. Yeah, for to do so it works like
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  400 Dawn's, isn't it Terrence Dudley, you see, did not know
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  how to get to the point Terry Nation.
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  He just wants and his wife Carrie.
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  Yeah. Did know how to get to the
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  point. No.
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  Oh my point is, this is termination knew where the drama
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  was that, you know? Yeah.
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  Watching what if we did measure what?
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  We just watched the crawls. Doing that plant doing there you
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  know, rehearsal and the doctor could have defeated the
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  rehearsal, that's how so. And it's all we prevented The
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  Invasion before it's begun, but it would do get a little bit of
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  it going. Yeah, I don't know if you
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  remember, but we get to go to this fabulous space control, set
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  in episode 4. We're not there yet.
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  No, no saved. A bit of money for a massive set
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  for episode 4. That's very unusual.
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  I like these his prison cell seeing and the because it is, it
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  does Feel it, very enclosed and he got a lower ceiling there.
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  I think it's very convincing but not only that you're lighting as
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  well as getting the Fourth Doctor and Sarah working
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  together to defeat the Android and they use they use the
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  electricity and the water. I thought I was very clever when
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  I first watched that but it is a big vicious but what they do is
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  Daleks first dr. Susan.
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  Here's trapped in the things and Terry Nation would be fucked if
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  people that took prisoners, didn't give them food and drink.
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  I thought none of his pots with good then we're out of here.
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  Exactly the moment. Someone's it says he's
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  Refreshments you like there we go.
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  Terry. Yeah you're right.
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  The Daleks Daleks invasion of Earth.
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  Yeah like God every time till I've always give, you know, some
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  drinks going to do a montage of all the time is, when pets
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  appear. Mmm.
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  That's all right. Animals.
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  Period doctor. Yeah, yeah, well maybe we should
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  do a montage of all the times food.
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  And drinks used, does a guy craford a bit like an auton
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  there. He's got his boiler suit and his
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  scarf or it could be a an auton couny to be fair.
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  I don't think he's very strong. All those are the guards are.
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  They could have just Overpowered him there.
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  Yeah but you got Max Faulkner standing behind are looking a
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  bit menacing with his gun. He's a stuntman.
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  You don't want to mess with him. Is it my fault that we deserve
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  it? I think we did.
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  Yeah, he's in Mantra pillowed on said that before.
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  I'm sure. So this is where the doctor
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  basically says. To guy craford, you're a stooge
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  and you've been used by them craford your a fall.
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  And by the way, look under your eye patch, I want to he came up
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  with that eye patch concept. When you've met my been a rubber
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  home staying or a, we need something, so we can, I don't
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  know. Does it feel to you?
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  Like it's added in later, the script might have been changed.
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  Those like this, add this in, after all I know is if Terry
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  nation that took off across the sites, obsessed with herination,
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  Terrance dicks was script editing this, he would have
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  covered this with a lie and he would have explained it a lot
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  better. Why do you think it was?
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  Because Robert Holmes was great. As I said, I think this rubber
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  hose could let the details slip sometimes in favor of the
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  moment, the set piece. You know, there's only colorful
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  characters. Yeah, every now and again he
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  would let I think knitting up a plot or someone else's plot was
• 21:38
  necessarily a strength and overall, I think he's a genius.
• 21:43
  If you feel ruined the thief, a guy craford and it is Milton
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  John's his performance. I would have loved to see some
• 21:49
  archive footage when Sarah Jane what did she say?
• 21:52
  She interviewed him before he went off to space.
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  Oh well, imagine that they should have put that on.
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  You've got five minutes ago. I paid for this is Sarah Joe,
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  from which followed to make us leave.
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  This is Sarah. Jane Smith space.
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  Yeah. How's it feel a little flashback
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  and training for months and months and they could have done
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  Sarah with her old. Eleven.
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  Hell yeah she would have just met trousers.
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  Yeah, with a camera they would do it now would be great,
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  wouldn't it? He said there that he was in
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  such a state when they found him in the capsule that they had to
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  reconstruct his entire body and face.
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  So he's nearly all plastic. Yeah.
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  All the dogs such as say they're, you've been
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  brainwashed. So maybe that explains why he
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  doesn't like under the eye patch.
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  It just believe them. Yeah, I think so.
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  I think the eye patch is there just as like a distinctive
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  visual, that's the point of it. It's certainly not there for the
• 22:48
  twist. You know always faced with the
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  Twist by smokers. Go.
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  Oh no, you know? What do you see without it?
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  He doesn't get a moment. Like like he realizes just how
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  evil they are because they lie to him about his eye.
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  So that's the point where he showed us and yeah, so it's not
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  like you could have had him without the eyepatch, like a
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  scar or something. It wouldn't be as a, my kids fit
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  as a visual thing. And I'll show all I can say now,
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  is that Bloody Italian from happy families.
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  Okay. Tim, you know, oh, yeah, well,
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  you need to watch mr. Group approach is great, can I
• 23:24
  talk about the law of diminishing returns?
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  The previous Cliffhanger, was that wonderful one with the
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  fake? Sarah, remember what the next
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  one is? It's crashing excited.
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  Hugged her face. Come on, J.
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  For Saxon. Tom Baker looks very thoughtful
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  there, but well, because the whole of e now, he knows the
• 23:50
  seriousness of the situation he's playing that.
• 23:52
  Here we go food and drink in a lovely.
• 23:55
  That's a nice role. They've got.
• 23:56
  There is a lovely row. I'm not sure about this Crockery
• 24:01
  of the quarrels, but it's what he clearly is a crystalline.
• 24:04
  Yeah, very So we'll cross do nowadays.
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  Well, thank you so much. My bugs aren't my in town.
• 24:21
  Look, I'm sorry for my sake special crawl, decide.
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  Oh, I see they're putting the poison in the water in the cell.
• 24:27
  Okay. So there's a reason for this
• 24:28
  food and drink to go into the cell.
• 24:30
  Then it's not just a small, so what they're trying to see if
• 24:36
  it's effective on them. I think just, you know, what
• 24:38
  they want, they want to know before they land, but it is
• 24:41
  gonna murder, it's an Airborne virus.
• 24:43
  Right. Or in the water he gets his
• 24:47
  face. Riot in episode 4 turns into
• 24:49
  her. I think it must be in the water
• 24:52
  because if it's everyone that cell door has loads of holes
• 24:56
  underneath that it's just going to be out into the atmosphere.
• 24:58
  So it must be when they drink. It miserable meal that and it
• 25:01
  just a brown roll. I love bread and water.
• 25:04
  Yeah. If I was trapped in a Terry
• 25:05
  Nation, I'll be like thanks for the brain War.
• 25:07
  I mean, I would use it to escape obviously because everyone does,
• 25:09
  but I have a bit of a snack. First, let's play sorry about
• 25:14
  the meals to get sir. Around there is this what you do
• 25:17
  can always escape from places from now on, we know exactly
• 25:20
  what to do or just get bread and water.
• 25:22
  Well, you've got the electricity thing, you can throw my make a
• 25:25
  bit of mud out of someone's shoe from in their eyes.
• 25:28
  What else can you do hours to use?
• 25:34
  If you need to get out and go do what you got to do?
• 25:36
  Have you noticed that it's a big crack in the floor that cell
• 25:39
  with like coming up. What's that all about?
• 25:42
  Obviously, that's where the yeah I was.
• 25:43
  That's what? She's getting that.
• 25:45
  Yeah, but you know what? But what's great about this
• 25:49
  thing is, it's Harry. They do it too, isn't it?
• 25:52
  No, it's not. It's Max Faulkner.
• 25:54
  Oh, is it? Yeah.
• 25:56
  It's still strange though to see the docks for inflicting
• 25:59
  violence on somebody. He doesn't inflate violence,
• 26:02
  does he was it Sarah? That does it error?
• 26:04
  I think does it? I think is quite nice here as
• 26:11
  well with anything. Yeah, so that idea of do you
• 26:15
  did, okay? Sorry, this is where the doctor
• 26:21
  is going to be tortured Now, isn't he why tied up his knee?
• 26:24
  And they do the route on him, the Sarah rescue him.
• 26:27
  She doesn't share because he's out of it and he says about.
• 26:30
  So she'll excuse Android and resting his agency.
• 26:34
  Jesus Christ that took four men. To wrestle him that I've been in
• 26:38
  that situation a few times, you know?
• 26:40
  Oh, and Sarah's getting it jives.
• 26:42
  I'd be scared of opening. This electricity thing all that,
• 26:46
  you know, that, yeah, krong it looks like one of the guns from
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  blank 70. Or know it's a bit later, isn't
• 27:01
  it? Thanks Evan.
• 27:03
  This is Sony 6 Blake's 7. Did four years up to 1980.
• 27:09
  So I don't think it's David Maloney went from Talons Wang
• 27:12
  Chong, Yang and Scott like Syria.
• 27:14
  So it's probably about the same time.
• 27:15
  It's been developed. Maybe saw that Muslim will use
• 27:18
  that as a gun like that prom. You'll forgive me.
• 27:20
  I'll do an intro. Welcome back to, they were mine
• 27:24
  ginkga, the black X7 commentary for coerced who's that?
• 27:28
  So Vlad. Okay, remember in Children of
• 27:31
  our own, I don't remember no no she creates all these lips
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  fertilize babies. Oh yeah, he wants to create
• 27:38
  progeny and then he blows up all the babies and she goes they
• 27:44
  were our mind getting car. I felt dumb died.
• 27:48
  She murders him horribly honestly.
• 27:51
  Jacqueline, peace is good. She should appear in Doctor Who,
• 27:53
  you know? Mmm, Yeah.
• 27:55
  She God, forgives Colin Baker. Bless him, he got nothing, he
• 28:01
  can do inside that mask, as he like in a dialogue scene, he's
• 28:05
  really struggling. What do you think it's worth
• 28:08
  having to act in front of it? Tom Baker, looking at it or
• 28:12
  being in the costume. You'd have to react to that.
• 28:16
  Look at that costume. That looks like an enormous turd
• 28:18
  being inside. It just is that, that Rhino e b
• 28:23
  knows bit before. What is when they are Ryan?
• 28:25
  When they're in profile, you really see the horn.
• 28:28
  But when you are looking at the from it just looks like a.
• 28:31
  I don't to keep saying it, but sealer in and in Terror of the
• 28:37
  zygons, he gets out. Wonderful, lion, doesn't it?
• 28:38
  Go about the big, big, big big of a planet for just a few Oh of
• 28:45
  you you got to come out and wave a tentacle every now.
• 28:47
  And again whereas here the dialogue is not quite as strong.
• 28:51
  She goes Sarah Android. Killer Croc.
• 28:54
  Here we go. She's watched the Daleks.
• 28:56
  Jeez, what's many other termination programs before?
• 28:59
  She knows you spilled water all over the floor is absolutely
• 29:05
  part. I think the doctor gave it some
• 29:07
  the suo matches. Yeah.
• 29:08
  I was gonna say I'll digital to give her a liar.
• 29:11
  No matches. I didn't know.
• 29:12
  Sarah was a smoker. I mean, you wouldn't get that
• 29:16
  much money. That is dry ice fishing, you can
• 29:18
  get them as you are. No.
• 29:23
  She's but a scarf, didn't she know?
• 29:25
  Whatever's got, no. He hit her knee.
• 29:27
  He took it off her. Wait for it.
• 29:28
  Wait for it. Look at this.
• 29:33
  Okay, Paul, Max Faulkner's chest is exploding all over the place
• 29:42
  up to you. You read an explosion on your
• 29:45
  chest. I was good at was a good effect,
• 29:51
  I'm not sure I'd want flame is, you know, that going off all
• 29:53
  over my my he's expert stuntman and they're not doing that to in
• 29:57
  Marta. Was he the same fellow that
• 29:59
  jumped off the cliff at the beginning?
• 30:00
  He's doing a lot in this, is they're getting their money's
• 30:02
  worth. Look at this lovely adulation.
• 30:04
  They do this. Well, I think you're fat, isn't
• 30:07
  it? It's like a sort of contrasty
• 30:09
  sort of light that they put on a change, the contrast.
• 30:12
  Yeah, I think the problem with this Corolla spaceship is it is
• 30:16
  also Quran the Quran with Terry spaceship is so you're so the
• 30:23
  carries. Yeah that grey and they want.
• 30:28
  Is it a good idea to make everything else silvery gray as
• 30:31
  well? They don't really stand out, it
• 30:32
  just Blends in. So Mars is a good question.
• 30:34
  Do you, do you find that affect like, your uncle's icons?
• 30:37
  Where they're all red? And then all their spaceship is
• 30:39
  River. Reds, Reds are vivid color,
• 30:41
  then, isn't it? Yes.
• 30:42
  So, I've got a question for you, then does the color palette of a
• 30:46
  story affect your enjoyment of it, if it's all falling.
• 30:48
  So if it's all 70s, you know, they graze and sorry, two things
• 30:53
  around, William 0, the cheap grain is really, really, really,
• 30:59
  really, really Asia, and cheap and gray.
• 31:05
  And then, yeah, that does affect it.
• 31:06
  I think because it's just not as visually.
• 31:09
  I don't think that's really, really era is quite, as I know,
• 31:12
  I'm a memorable as you think it is, but I mean, it's only
• 31:17
  production issues. Like, you know what actually do
• 31:20
  you be really interesting point that, you know, it can be had
• 31:22
  known to happen if this was in the ground Williams, there are
• 31:26
  something that looked this good. It would really stand out in.
• 31:29
  This would be stunning if this was in the middle of grain
• 31:32
  Williams. Yeah.
• 31:33
  What that's not to say. There aren't stunning stories in
• 31:35
  the middle of G, of course, of course, yeah.
• 31:41
  Did he do a quote? Now he always does apply
• 31:43
  whenever whenever he's disorder. Yeah, doesn't he talk about
• 31:49
  treacle? Well yeah.
• 31:51
  Santa Clara Marfa. Yeah, that's doesn't that isn't
• 31:54
  that? What in the Mad Hatter's tea
• 31:56
  party doesn't deserve thing? That's lives in the teapot say
• 31:59
  that. All right.
• 32:01
  What is it? The what lives in teapot the Mad
• 32:03
  Hatter and the March Hare and The what is it?
• 32:06
  Everyone's saying it right now? Oh, this is tiggy-winkle.
• 32:10
  No, anyway I think that's what is from.
• 32:12
  Did you see? Elizabeth Satan's face?
• 32:15
  She asked him hey where they were so that as if to say, none
• 32:19
  of this was in the fucking script, Yeah, when am I gonna
• 32:22
  start acting again? What's going on the, take it
• 32:25
  off. What are you lying on the way?
• 32:28
  The rocket is about to go off. Oh, so they're going to make it
• 32:31
  look as if they are going to make it look as if food is
• 32:35
  making a real they'll ever seen. Have you ever seen a rocket at
• 32:39
  more like a penis and that it's not.
• 32:42
  I mean budget-wise, they haven't got time to be a rocking
• 32:45
  properly. If they, they've got getting the
• 32:46
  raisin quick. Because the g-force will crush
• 32:49
  them to do when Mark was creating our fabulous, Android
• 32:53
  Invasion. When we filmed this in each
• 32:55
  Decor, he actually didn't you use raisins as they?
• 32:59
  Yeah, crowd following here. We are going to pray for his
• 33:01
  wearing, one of the falls space suits from planet.
• 33:05
  The Dalek voice to see very little of Lisa, Caesar have it,
• 33:09
  they should have sprayed the orange and they handled it in
• 33:11
  last time. It's the new series, do not
• 33:13
  think this stock footage rocket looks a bit different from the
• 33:16
  CSO, right? Sara.
• 33:18
  Something's very thin lips. It's crushing me.
• 33:21
  She's my makeup on us and she will tell you start right side
• 33:24
  of absolutely fabulous. Yeah, we're a detour at this
• 33:27
  nightmare that she was having plastic surgery done.
• 33:29
  Right? Probably should have it.
• 33:31
  All the, all the fat sucked out of her body and put into her
• 33:35
  lips and every time you cut back to where I bought, you got a
• 33:37
  smaller so there's like a dolly body underneath and I live.
• 33:41
  Absolutely massive. Right looking terrifying.
• 33:44
  That's what lizards What I have to say that was absolutely
• 33:53
  riveting and I cannot wait to see what happens next, will the
• 33:56
  doctor and Sarah survive, their G-Force phenomena and well,
• 34:00
  Jeremiah be able to pronounce anything.
• 34:02
  I will be better there. Anything within the story?
• 34:07
  Well, tune in next time to find out What I have to say that was
• 33:52
  absolutely riveting and I cannot wait to see what happens next,
• 33:56
  will the doctor and Sarah survive, their G-Force phenomena
• 34:00
  and well, Jeremiah be able to pronounce anything.
• 34:02
  I will be better there. Anything within the story?
• 34:07
  Well, tune in next time to find out