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‘Tech Tuesday’ with Rich DeMuro | Teens Dislike News Media · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty.
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  Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty Bill Handle Here it is.
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  Speaker 3: A Taco Tuesday, December ninth, And as we do every Tuesday,
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  Speaker 3: right around this time, we go to Rich Dumurow, kfi's
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  Speaker 3: tech guy, heard every Saturday right here on KFI eleven
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  Speaker 3: am to two pm. He's on KTLA TV everyday, Instagram
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  Speaker 3: at rich on tech website, rich on tech dot TV.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 4: Bill.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 3: We start with a really interesting story about Australia. Now
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  Speaker 3: we've been talking and I was just the entire world's
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  Speaker 3: been talking, particularly us. Here we hear about a social
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  Speaker 3: media band, I mean, an outright media band for kids.
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  Speaker 3: Australia has just picked that one up and it's actually there.
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  Speaker 2: You want to talk about that, please.
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  Speaker 4: This is the big.
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  Speaker 5: Fear of the US tech companies what they're doing in
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  Speaker 5: Australia because in the US, you know, we don't really
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  Speaker 5: have a lot of regulations around this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And so all the tech companies, like the Tiktoks of.
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  Speaker 5: The world, the metas, the Instagrams, they the snaps, they
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  Speaker 5: have all tried to make their own parental rules, right,
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  Speaker 5: And I'm putting up air quotes because they're trying. But
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  Speaker 5: the reason they're trying is because they don't want the
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  Speaker 5: US government to do anything about this. They want to
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  Speaker 5: be in charge. Well, in Australia they said, you know what,
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  Speaker 5: enough is enough, And on Wednesday there is no more
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  Speaker 5: social media for children under sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: So more than a million accounts are going to be
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  Speaker 5: shut down on Wednesday. These platforms including TikTok, Instagram, YouTube,
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  Speaker 5: Facebook x, Snapchat, Reddit, they all have to take reasonable
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  Speaker 5: steps to make sure that kids under sixteen cannot open
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  Speaker 5: up new accounts and they have to close down the
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  Speaker 5: old accounts or else they face fines.
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  Speaker 3: Now the word you said is reasonable attempts. Let's get
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  Speaker 3: into that.
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  Speaker 4: I love it the lawyer coming out.
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  Speaker 3: Right, because all I can think of, Okay, I'm a
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  Speaker 3: fourteen year old and I'm gonna lie.
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  Speaker 2: Are you sixteen?
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  Speaker 5: Well yeah i am, but I'm not right and they're
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  Speaker 5: already doing that, by the way. So basically, here's what's
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  Speaker 5: happened in America over the past you know, ten years
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  Speaker 5: or so. Everyone's been raw, raw, raw about all the technology. Right,
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  Speaker 5: sign everyone up, Get everyone signed up. So every parent
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  Speaker 5: sign up, their kids, let their kids sign up, and
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  Speaker 5: you get to that little speed.
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  Speaker 4: Bump that says how old are you?
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  Speaker 5: Parent goes, I'll just put whatever age, twenty one, whatever,
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  Speaker 5: didn't matter, right. Well, now what's happening is all these
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  Speaker 5: companies are starting to use AI to figure out the
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  Speaker 5: child's actual age. So even if your kid put in
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  Speaker 5: twenty one because there was more convenient for the parents
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  Speaker 5: and not have to deal with all that stuff. Now
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  Speaker 5: the platforms are coming back and saying, we've scanned the
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  Speaker 5: way that this account is used and we've used AI
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  Speaker 5: to do that, and we've realized that this child is
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  Speaker 5: closer to thirteen than twenty one, like the account was
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  Speaker 5: originally established that so now we're going to retro change
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  Speaker 5: that and you have to fight.
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  Speaker 4: To change it back. All right. This is happening on
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  Speaker 4: Google too.
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  Speaker 5: People are getting notifications on Google saying, hey, your account
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  Speaker 5: looks like you're under eighteen or twenty one or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: You have to verify you are who you say you are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry interrupt, But the first thing that came to
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  Speaker 3: mind using AI to figure out someone's age, how does
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  Speaker 3: that work? You know? What is is it an algorithm
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  Speaker 3: that has to be developed putting everything together. Birthday parties,
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  Speaker 3: they go to texts that they send each other. What
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  Speaker 3: is the tool that's used or how does the tool work?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, they're all slightly different. Like Roadblocks
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  Speaker 5: is taking a visual scan of kids' faces and so
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  Speaker 5: you know, starting in January here in the US, kids
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  Speaker 5: will have to scan their face and they will be
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  Speaker 5: put into a bucket of ages based on their face.
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  Speaker 5: And then other platforms are using different signals like you mentioned,
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  Speaker 5: you know, who you text, who you follow, what you say,
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  Speaker 5: what you post, what you look at. These are all
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  Speaker 5: signals that are fed into AI, and the algorithm has
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  Speaker 5: been trained on what people in their twenties do, what
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  Speaker 5: people in there, you know, thirteen to sixteen do, what
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  Speaker 5: people in their you know, fifties do, and so that
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  Speaker 5: way they can put you into a bucket of people
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  Speaker 5: that makes sense for what you're doing on there. It's
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  Speaker 5: not always going to be perfect, but especially with kids,
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  Speaker 5: you know, they're not looking at fine vacations, you know.
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  Speaker 4: In the Baltic Sea or whatever, you know what I mean, They're.
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  Speaker 5: They're looking at certain things, certain influencers, and they know
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  Speaker 5: that they're that age.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I'm just thinking because I always look
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  Speaker 3: older than my age.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just the oldest looking person.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, Okay, you know, let me throw something
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  Speaker 3: at you Armenian teenagers where the girls are growing mustaches
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  Speaker 3: quicker than you know the rest of the population. That,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, is going to get me about fifteen emails.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you do that to rich He doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to stand next to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I have to throw it. I have to
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  Speaker 2: throw it at him because he doesn't get this stuff
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  Speaker 2: on his on his other shows that he does.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I certainly do not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ktla doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna look, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna.
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  Speaker 5: I looked at your history on Instagram. So the things
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  Speaker 5: that you're looking at those words hard candies, newspapers, magnifying
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  Speaker 5: glass advertisements. Oh, those giant remote controls with like three
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  Speaker 5: buttons on them, the volume up, down, power. So look,
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  Speaker 5: they can tell that you are of a certain age
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  Speaker 5: just by looking at your history.
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  Speaker 4: Let's put it that way.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I'm sorry, I'm not stunned, but I'm thinking
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  Speaker 3: how far it can go?
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  Speaker 2: And there's really no limit.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things I just real quickly before we
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  Speaker 3: take a break and we go into the shopping tips
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  Speaker 3: and what you can do to really get great prices
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  Speaker 3: on so many things. Is I was thinking, Sam Altman,
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  Speaker 3: when you were talking about how these companies do not
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  Speaker 3: want these these major companies, Sam Altman chat GPT he
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  Speaker 3: They showed an interview with him a few months ago
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  Speaker 3: where he argued that, yes, we do need and over
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  Speaker 3: the course of years, we do need some controls from
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  Speaker 3: the government. We do need some guardrails. And then something
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  Speaker 3: he said a few days ago, no guardrails. Nope, we
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  Speaker 3: have to do it on our own. So things are
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  Speaker 3: changing pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's in their best interest to not have the guardrails.
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  Speaker 4: It's in our.
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  Speaker 5: Best interest to have at least some guardrails. But that's
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  Speaker 5: still to be determined because everyone has a different opinion
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  Speaker 5: on how those should work, and it's getting tougher and
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  Speaker 5: tougher for people to agree on what we all agree on.
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  Speaker 3: If you've noticed, yep, and now it is a holiday
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  Speaker 3: season upon us and we are buying still very strong.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, sales, particularly Internet sales are through the roof.
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  Speaker 3: So Rich, let's go through some of the tips you have.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I guess my first tip is really for Amazon,
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  Speaker 5: because this is where people do a lot of their shopping.
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  Speaker 5: So Amazon added a new feature this year that you
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  Speaker 5: may not even notice, but it's called price history. So
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  Speaker 5: look for a little link near the price tag that
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  Speaker 5: shows you the price history. So if you're wondering if
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  Speaker 5: you should buy something, you can tap that and you'll
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  Speaker 5: get thirty to ninety days worth of pricing data, so
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  Speaker 5: you can say, Okay, this is actually on sale at
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  Speaker 5: a pretty reasonable number compared to the past.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to get this information longer or more
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  Speaker 4: of it.
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  Speaker 5: I guess I should say, there's a website called Camel
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  Speaker 5: Camel Camel. I believe we've spoken about this before, but
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  Speaker 5: you basically paste in one of these Amazon product URLs,
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  Speaker 5: it'll give you a whole bunch of data on pricing.
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  Speaker 5: And if you just want this information always on your
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  Speaker 5: Amazon product pages, you can install an extension called kip A,
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  Speaker 5: k EEPA and bill. Once you install that, there's so
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  Speaker 5: much information that they put on your Amazon product listings.
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  Speaker 5: You may uninstall it because you're like, Okay, this is
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  Speaker 5: just too much new information for me. For instance, I'm
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  Speaker 5: looking at this Amazon kindle fire seven and I can
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  Speaker 5: tell you, you know, all this information that can give
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  Speaker 5: you product data variations, all these things on the page.
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  Speaker 4: While you're looking at your Amazon listings.
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  Speaker 2: So what would you go?
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  Speaker 3: All right, well, real quickly, why would you go to
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  Speaker 3: Amazon as opposed to one of the apps that shows
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  Speaker 3: the price across the board, not just Amazon but all
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  Speaker 3: of the other retailers.
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  Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing about Amazon, bill. They have these
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  Speaker 5: crawlers that go out on the web, and as soon
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  Speaker 5: as the price gets marked down somewhere let's say it's
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  Speaker 5: at Target, Macy's, best Buy, whatever, Amazon pretty much matches.
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  Speaker 4: That price almost instantly.
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  Speaker 5: So the thing about Amazon shoppers is that they pretty
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  Speaker 5: much are loyal to Amazon. They start, you know, there's
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  Speaker 5: different places where people start their searches for things for shopping.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of people don't even go to Google. They
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  Speaker 5: just go straight to Amazon. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: you're like that, but I sure am. And when I
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  Speaker 5: do try to comparison shop, you find that, Okay, well
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  Speaker 5: it's the same price at best Buy. It's a lot
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  Speaker 5: easier for Amazon just to deliver this thing to my
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  Speaker 5: front door, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No kidding, And then return policy go to ups because
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  Speaker 3: Lindsay buys a lot of stuff and we get box
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  Speaker 3: after box and I'm the one that drops it off.
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  Speaker 2: They don't even argue, just here we go.
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  Speaker 3: They do this zip with the scanner and you are done,
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  Speaker 3: and you're in and out in thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we that we did that two days ago
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  Speaker 5: and we had a whole bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And now I will.
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  Speaker 5: Tell you, your return is not completely done until Amazon
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  Speaker 5: reviews it. So it seems like they give you the
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  Speaker 5: money instantly, and sometimes they do. But sometimes, and we
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  Speaker 5: have had this happen where they do that whole system
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  Speaker 5: and you still don't get your refund because after they
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  Speaker 5: go through all their checks and balances, they say, wait,
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  Speaker 5: you return the wrong thing, you scan the wrong thing, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's not all right.
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  Speaker 5: Two sites that I love for deals Slick Deals. If
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  Speaker 5: you're looking for deals. This is crowdsourced, which means people
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  Speaker 5: on the inner net post great deals, other people vote
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  Speaker 5: up the best ones. Deal News another one, but they
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  Speaker 5: use editors. Simply Codes this website. If you're looking for
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  Speaker 5: a promo code before you check out, simplycodes dot com
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  Speaker 5: is one of the best ways to do that. I
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  Speaker 5: know we'll run out of time, so let me give
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  Speaker 5: you one good one here. If you're shopping for groceries
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  Speaker 5: over the holiday season, maybe making those dinners, there's a
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  Speaker 5: great new feature at a website called get savewise dot
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  Speaker 5: com slash grocery Get savewise dot com slash grocery bill.
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  Speaker 5: If you install this extension on your browser, the next
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  Speaker 5: time you go to Ralphs dot com, Vonds dot com,
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  Speaker 5: it will activate all those digital coupons and load them
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  Speaker 5: onto your card so you don't have to do all
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  Speaker 5: that work.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds absolutely great. What are TVs a bargain? Computers?
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  Speaker 3: What are we looking at in terms of the great
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  Speaker 3: bargains this holiday season?
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  Speaker 5: I think all of it. I mean, I know we've
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  Speaker 5: heard that tariff's term being thrown around a lot the news,
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  Speaker 5: but I'll be honest. I mean, the prices we're seeing
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  Speaker 5: this year are pretty competitive. You know, fifty five inch
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  Speaker 5: TVs now, I mean now people are up to sixty
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  Speaker 5: five to seventy five inch TVs eighty five quickly coming up.
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  Speaker 4: So TVs are a good deal.
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  Speaker 5: Laptops, I mean, I'm seeing a lot of deals on laptops,
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  Speaker 5: and in fact, slick deals which I mentioned people are
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  Speaker 5: asking like which laptop to get which laptop? All the
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  Speaker 5: prices I'm seeing are fantastically discounted, and you can find
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  Speaker 5: a list of the best deals going at slick Deals.
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  Speaker 5: You can get even Apple's latest MacBook Air for like
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  Speaker 5: seven hundred and fifty dollars right now. So I mean
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  Speaker 5: we're really seeing a lot of discounts on these things.
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  Speaker 5: Working up a list as well on my website. I've
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  Speaker 5: got like the top ten gadgets people are buying this year,
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  Speaker 5: and almost all of them are discounted.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's the website is Rich on tech dot TV. Rich.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. We'll catch you on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Bill Saturday. I'm sorry, I'll catch you on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: I think I was talking to Joel Saturday, eleven am
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  Speaker 3: to two pm.
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  Speaker 2: Rich.
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  Speaker 3: You have a good one, Okay, Happy happy holidays, even
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  Speaker 3: though I'm going to talk to.
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  Speaker 2: You before the holidays officially, all right.
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  Speaker 3: Some of the stories we're looking at, and this piece
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  Speaker 3: of news is directly, uh directly affects the story that
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing. One of the stories is President Trump is
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  Speaker 3: on his way today to Pennsylvania to talk about the
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  Speaker 3: quote affordability problem that seems to be the mantra is
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  Speaker 3: the affordability problem. Last week the President called the prices
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  Speaker 3: and the affordability issue the greatest con job ever conceived
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  Speaker 3: by the Democrats. Well we're a week later, not so
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  Speaker 3: much anymore. So the news and who's going to believe what?
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  Speaker 3: There was a survey that just came out and it
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  Speaker 3: was done by the News Literacy Project, which is an
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  Speaker 3: independent think tank.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the problem.
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  Speaker 3: And we're talking about teenagers now, Okay, when they engage
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  Speaker 3: with the news, If they engage with the news, what
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  Speaker 3: they hear is a cacophony of voices, I mean from
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  Speaker 3: all over the place, and they don't know who to believe.
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  Speaker 3: Reporters are biased, reporters make mistakes. It's a dying industry.
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  Speaker 3: You can't believe anything you hear.
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  Speaker 4: This fall.
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  Speaker 3: This was a study and documented the negative attitudes and
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  Speaker 3: that's where it went towards the news media among thirteen
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  Speaker 3: to eighteen year old Americans. And the press doesn't do
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  Speaker 3: very well at all. Now, it doesn't do well with adults. Man,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't do even well or not so well or worse.
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  Speaker 3: I was well said among teenagers. Opinions are still forming,
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  Speaker 3: so The Literacy Project asked the teenagers describe one word,
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  Speaker 3: describe what the media means to you.
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  Speaker 2: How would you describe the media?
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  Speaker 3: Eighty four percent said something negative, biased, crazy, boring, fake, bad, depressing, confusing, scary,
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  Speaker 3: And more than half of these teenagers said that journalists
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  Speaker 3: regularly engage in unethical behaviors like making up details or
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  Speaker 3: quotes and stories, or paying sources or taking visual images
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  Speaker 3: out of contexts, doing favors for advertisers.
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  Speaker 2: They're being bought off, and you know.
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  Speaker 3: As they're studying this, what is going on, Well, they
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  Speaker 3: reflect the attitude that they're exposed to, because teenagers are
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  Speaker 3: particularly susceptible to outside sources and forces, and they're more
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  Speaker 3: affected by, for example, shaming or affected by peers, and
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  Speaker 3: they're certainly more affected by news negatively as they view it. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so what is what's one of the reasons, Well, the
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  Speaker 3: premiere reason why all of this negative news happens to
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  Speaker 3: be because of the president. The President is at the forefront,
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  Speaker 3: forefront of telling us that news is fake, that it
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  Speaker 3: is completely biased. As a matter of fact, it was
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  Speaker 3: relating to that double tap on that drug ship, right
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  Speaker 3: that we saw the first tap, the first attack on
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  Speaker 3: the latest attack on the first video on the latest
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  Speaker 3: attack of the ship that were the boat that was
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  Speaker 3: carrying the drugs. And huge controversy as to were the
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  Speaker 3: two survivors that of the attack who actually survived the
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  Speaker 3: first hit. Were they innocent, well not so much innocent.
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  Speaker 3: Were they simply grabbing onto pieces of debris, or were
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  Speaker 3: they trying to actually overturn the boat to get back
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  Speaker 3: in to continue there, to continue their trip to sell.
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  Speaker 2: Drugs or to deliver drugs. And there's two versions to
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  Speaker 2: this one.
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  Speaker 3: The Democrats and the Republicans, both the leadership and the
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  Speaker 3: House saw it. The Republicans said, we saw them trying
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  Speaker 3: to get back in the boat. We saw them actively
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  Speaker 3: getting back.
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  Speaker 4: In the boat.
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  Speaker 3: The Democrats saw two survivors that are simply just floating
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  Speaker 3: and waving to the airplanes that were flying above, waving
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  Speaker 3: to the attack the attack airplanes.
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  Speaker 2: And that's two very different views. So now who do
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  Speaker 2: you believe?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, last week the President was asked, would you release
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  Speaker 3: in a press conference in the White House, would you
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  Speaker 3: release that video the second video, and the President said, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'd have no problem with that. This week he's changed
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  Speaker 3: his tune, which is not unusual for President Trump, and
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  Speaker 3: now he has thrown it to Pete Hegseth and the
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  Speaker 3: it'll be the Secretary of War, Secretary of Defense will
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  Speaker 3: make that decision. And the same ABC reporter who asked
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  Speaker 3: the question said it again a week later and said,
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  Speaker 3: mister president, will you released and he changed his mind,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't go back to the first statement.
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  Speaker 2: And she said, but last week you.
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  Speaker 3: Said you were okay of releasing these and now you're not.
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  Speaker 3: And he looked at her and with disdain said, uh,
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  Speaker 3: fake news, ABC News, fake right there. Okay, So with that,
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  Speaker 3: why do teenagers not believe what's going on in the
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  Speaker 3: media Because people look up to the president. The president
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  Speaker 3: is the president that states I mean, that is a
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  Speaker 3: position that is sacracanct.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Are you seriously saying that young people respect Donald Trump?
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I'm saying that young people respect the presidency more than
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: they respect the media. And because the media isn't attacking
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the presidency the way the president attacks the media. I mean,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: they do plenty of attacking, don't misunderstand, but the media
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: doesn't come out right there and say he's there, that
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: the president is a liar.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: You can't trust him, you can't believe him.
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  Speaker 3: The mainstream media does not say that, whether it's true
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: or not. The teenagers, the non mainstream media says that,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and certainly the President says that of the media, you
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: can't trust them, they are liars. Not well, eighty four
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: percent said something negative, words like bias, crazy, boring, fake, bad, depressing, confusing, scary,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: and why is that. Well, as they're looking at it,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: the teenagers are, you know, they're fairly susceptible to what's
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: going going on where well, the internet, they pay attention
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: to the Internet.
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  Speaker 2: I don't pay attention to internet.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: News other than the New York Times and CNN and
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: a few that I that I get alerts from and
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: stories from the rest of the world. I don't get attention.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I don't pay attention to. But then I'm a baby boomer,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not a teenager. So why would you watch national
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: news or read mainstream media when you are being told
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  Speaker 3: over and over again it is fake, none of it
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: is true. Everything elections are now rigged. It is It's terrible.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: And it's not just President Trump. It's across the board
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: where you have the Republican parties say, and that's the
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Republican Party saying when everything negative is said.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: It's biased, it's lies, it's fake.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Now one of the things that I am being accused of,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: and I think rightly so as I lean more towards
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Democrats these days, or lean more against Republicans, uh, And
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: that's because as Democrats are biased one biased, the Republicans
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: are more biased, or they come off more biased. You
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: don't see too many Democrats when there is a positive
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: story say that's a lie, that's rigged, that's fake news.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: You're looking at me very strangely. What leader is saying that?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: What our very own leader in California says that that
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: stuff all the time.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: He doesn't talk about the media being rigged. He does
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: not say the media is rigged. That he doesn't do
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Now he's okay, So.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: That's like saying that you don't talk about your malaprops.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Why would he say in his why would he have a.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Problem with mainstream media when mainstream media favors Democrats because.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: He is being attacked and mainstream media hold on and
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: mainstream media.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Reports that they report it.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: And that's the difference. I think it's a big deal.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: And the whole thing is it's not only President Trump.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not a Republican. But I'm honest, okay.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: But.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Mainstream media reports and mainstream media for the most part,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: is pretty objective about it. I watch national news, New
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: York Times. Actually, the New York Times has become so
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: anti Trump. It really is surprising. I'm reading I read
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: the New York Times every day, and I'm reading basically
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: attack pieces almost every day against President Trump. I just
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: told you off during the break, I was telling you
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: about some ridiculous stuff that the president has done where
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: he's being attacked, you know, being called a liar, basically
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: not saying he's a liar. He just said this week,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: he said this, last week he said that, And that's
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: what New York what you were just saying, Yeah, and
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: that's the New York Times. Well, but it's less than
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: it is less than what's going on. That's the point
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I'm comparing the two, Neil, you know.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: That's where we've gotten to it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: That's exactly. That's right, It's it's here's your choice. It's
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: worse or worse, Yeah, exactly. And I'm watching you know
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: who's making the rounds of the news outlets. Marjorie Taylor
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Green has completely changed her tune. She is now attacking
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Mike Johnson and the Republican leadership in the House for
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: being anti woman, marginalizing women. I mean, she is going
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: to become the liberals, the Democrats' biggest champion here.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: It's it's all okay, politics is prison and if you don't, oh,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: that's all to a gang in prison.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, I you know what, that is an excellent line.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna use that and take credit for that. Okay,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I just said that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: What Neil just I just use a ventriloquis voice to
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: utter that phrase, sounding just like Neil done.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, no, well said, well said. Okay. You've been
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