Latest / Crime Night / Football Derby Hides Algeria Abduction
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- 0:00Speaker 1: March seventh, twenty thirteen. We're in Algeria, early evening, and
- 0:03Speaker 1: you have to picture the scene not by what you
- 0:06Speaker 1: can hear, but by what you can't exactly.
- 0:08Speaker 2: There's this this profound quiet, an unnatural stillness on streets
- 0:14Speaker 2: that should be bustling.
- 0:15Speaker 1: It's the sound of a city holding its breath. And
- 0:18Speaker 1: the reason for it is a massive football derby, one
- 0:21Speaker 1: of those huge historic rivalries.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Right, so almost every adult male in the entire region
- 0:27Speaker 2: is glued to a screen. Their attention is completely utterly elsewhere.
- 0:32Speaker 1: And it wasn't just them, the security forces, the police,
- 0:35Speaker 1: they were all redeployed to the stadium because you know
- 0:37Speaker 1: these matches have a history of violence.
- 0:39Speaker 2: They absolutely do. So you have this, this vacuum. The
- 0:43Speaker 2: streets are basically unguarded, exposed a calculated window of opportunity.
- 0:47Speaker 1: It's in that precise window that two best friends, Harutin
- 0:50Speaker 1: who is ten and Ibraham just nine, are outside their
- 0:53Speaker 1: homes just playing.
- 0:54Speaker 2: They have no idea, no idea that this collective obsession
- 0:57Speaker 2: with a game has created the one moment, the unprotected hour,
- 1:01Speaker 2: that makes them a target.
- 1:02Speaker 1: And this is why this case just exploded. It became
- 1:04Speaker 1: I mean one of the biggest public opinion cases in
- 1:07Speaker 1: modern algery and.
- 1:08Speaker 2: History, because the timing wasn't an accident, it was deliberate.
- 1:11Speaker 2: It was chillingly effective.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this. How how did it actually happen?
- 1:17Speaker 1: How did they manage to pull off the abduction so cleanly?
- 1:20Speaker 2: Well, the critical thing to understand is the psychology of it.
- 1:23Speaker 2: They didn't use force, they used trust.
- 1:26Speaker 1: So a man approaches them, someone nobody recognizes, a face foreign.
- 1:30Speaker 2: To the area, and he doesn't look like a monster,
- 1:33Speaker 2: He just looks lost. The pretext is so simple, so benign.
- 1:37Speaker 2: He asks for directions.
- 1:39Speaker 1: And Harun and Ibrahem being kids, you know, they want
- 1:42Speaker 1: to help. They start pointing the way, and he uses.
- 1:45Speaker 2: That that little thread of connection. He doesn't just thank
- 1:48Speaker 2: them and leave. He starts walking with them, asking more
- 1:50Speaker 2: questions about the area, and in doing so, he just
- 1:54Speaker 2: gently separates them from the other kids.
- 1:56Speaker 1: It's a smooth manipulation.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Completely. He keeps up this appearance of just normal conversation.
- 2:01Speaker 2: And then he asked them just walk me to the
- 2:02Speaker 2: spot quickly and come right back. It sounds so casual,
- 2:05Speaker 2: so harmless, and.
- 2:06Speaker 1: The boys they just they went with them.
- 2:09Speaker 2: They went willingly. Their trust was perfectly exploited.
- 2:12Speaker 1: But one of their friends, one of the other kids
- 2:14Speaker 1: playing nearby, he felt something was wrong, a real sense
- 2:17Speaker 1: of dread.
- 2:18Speaker 2: And that anxiety didn't come from nowhere. You have to
- 2:20Speaker 2: remember the context. There were all these stories going around
- 2:23Speaker 2: at the time about kidnappings.
- 2:25Speaker 1: So parents were already on edge, very on edge.
- 2:27Speaker 2: They were constantly warning their children don't talk to strangers,
- 2:30Speaker 2: so that fear was already in the air, and this
- 2:32Speaker 2: one kid he felt it.
- 2:34Speaker 1: He waits, he expects to see them come right back,
- 2:37Speaker 1: but they don't. Yeah, and that's when the panic sets in.
- 2:41Speaker 1: He runs to their homes.
- 2:42Speaker 2: And of course the fathers are all at the match,
- 2:44Speaker 2: so he tells the mothers a ter must have been immediate, instantaneous.
- 2:48Speaker 2: They drop everything. They start calling their husband, saying, forget
- 2:51Speaker 2: the match, you have to come home now. Something terrible has.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Happened, and the community just mobilizes. Fathers leave the stadium
- 2:58Speaker 1: mid game, they pour back into the air and this desperate,
- 3:02Speaker 1: frantic search begins.
- 3:03Speaker 2: The official report is filed at six pm. Police get
- 3:06Speaker 2: the statement from the young witness. He confirms the whole
- 3:09Speaker 2: lord the directions, but he can't give a good description
- 3:13Speaker 2: of the.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Man, just the interaction itself.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Right, So police residents, they're all out there. They bring
- 3:19Speaker 2: in the canine units, the police dogs, hoping to get
- 3:22Speaker 2: a cent trail, and at.
- 3:23Speaker 1: First they do. The dogs pick up the scent of
- 3:26Speaker 1: Harun and Ibrahim perfectly. They follow the exact path the
- 3:31Speaker 1: boys took on foot.
- 3:32Speaker 2: It's working. They have a solid trail.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Until they don't. In the middle of a screen, the
- 3:35Speaker 1: dogs just stop dead.
- 3:39Speaker 2: The trail vanishes, and for an investigator, that means one thing.
- 3:42Speaker 2: It's a huge clue. It means they were on foot
- 3:45Speaker 2: to that point, and then they weren't.
- 3:47Speaker 1: They got into a car.
- 3:48Speaker 2: They got into a car willingly or by force. Their
- 3:51Speaker 2: scent is no longer on the ground. The trail is gone.
- 3:54Speaker 1: And police confirm that pretty quickly. Right, there was an eyewitness.
- 3:57Speaker 2: There was someone who saw two boys get into a
- 4:00Speaker 2: car at that exact spot.
- 4:02Speaker 1: And here's the part that is just so gut wrenching.
- 4:04Speaker 1: The witness said they saw no.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Struggle, no struggle, no signs of distress, nothing.
- 4:09Speaker 1: It just looked normal.
- 4:10Speaker 2: It looked completely normal. And that's what the perpetrators were
- 4:13Speaker 2: banking on. The distraction of the city and the absolute
- 4:16Speaker 2: trust of a child. But five days go by, five
- 4:19Speaker 2: days of this agonizing search, and that initial fear starts
- 4:23Speaker 2: to turn into this crushing dread.
- 4:26Speaker 1: The pressure must have been enormous, immense.
- 4:28Speaker 2: The media is all over it. The police dragnet is
- 4:31Speaker 2: getting wider and wider, and that pressure is what forced
- 4:34Speaker 2: the kidnapper's hand.
- 4:35Speaker 1: The break comes on the night of Tuesday, March twelfth.
- 4:39Speaker 1: An anonymous tip comes into the police.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Yeah, from some workers at a workshop. They saw something
- 4:43Speaker 2: suspicious near a construction site next to their shop.
- 4:46Speaker 1: They saw a car pull up.
- 4:47Speaker 2: A car pulls up, two men get out and they
- 4:50Speaker 2: dump two things quickly, a big green suitcase and another
- 4:54Speaker 2: plastic bag like from a clothing store. Then they just
- 4:57Speaker 2: sped off.
- 4:58Speaker 1: When residents finally got close enough to see what had
- 5:00Speaker 1: been left behind, I mean, that's when the worst fears
- 5:03Speaker 1: of the entire country were realized.
- 5:04Speaker 2: It was horrific. Inside those bags were the remains of
- 5:08Speaker 2: Harun and Ibrahim.
- 5:10Speaker 1: The details are brutal. One child in the suitcase dismembered,
- 5:14Speaker 1: the head severed, the other in the plastic bag in
- 5:17Speaker 1: the exact same condition.
- 5:19Speaker 2: The post mortem report just deep in the horror cause
- 5:22Speaker 2: of death for both boys with strangulation.
- 5:24Speaker 1: And there was more. The report confirmed they had both
- 5:28Speaker 1: been repeatedly sexually assaulted before they were killed.
- 5:31Speaker 2: The whole country just felt this deep personal violation.
- 5:36Speaker 1: And this is where the story takes a turn that
- 5:38Speaker 1: is just I mean, it's a breathtaking display of sociopathy.
- 5:42Speaker 1: In the days right after the bodies were found, with
- 5:44Speaker 1: the whole community and shock, one of the killers was
- 5:48Speaker 1: walking among them.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
- 5:50Speaker 1: He was at the morning gatherings, pretending to search, pretending
- 5:54Speaker 1: to console the family.
- 5:54Speaker 2: It's a classic narcissistic trait, killing the victim and then
- 5:58Speaker 2: walking in their funeral. He needed to be there to
- 6:00Speaker 2: see the chaos he'd created, but he.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Gets sloppy or maybe just arrogant. The workshop employee, the
- 6:06Speaker 1: one who saw them dump the bags, she's looking at
- 6:08Speaker 1: a random video someone in the crowd had filmed.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Right just a bystander cell phone footage of the crowd
- 6:14Speaker 2: around where the bodies were found.
- 6:15Speaker 1: And she spots him.
- 6:16Speaker 2: She recognizes him, the man from the car, standing right
- 6:20Speaker 2: there in the crowd of mourners.
- 6:22Speaker 1: He calls the police immediately they move in. They apprehend him,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and he confesses and he confirms he wasn't alone.
- 6:29Speaker 2: And now we have the names Mamin thirty eight years old,
- 6:33Speaker 2: a known drug dealer with a long rap sheet, and
- 6:35Speaker 2: his accomplice, a twenty one year old named Hamza.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Hamza whose nickname prophetically was Caritha.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Which means catastrophe, and the.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Pieces start to fit. Hamsa's family had been suspicious. He'd
- 6:47Speaker 1: just gotten out of prison and suddenly he's driving this
- 6:49Speaker 1: expensive car. Where did that money come from?
- 6:51Speaker 2: Which leads us right to the motive. And the thing
- 6:54Speaker 2: is this wasn't just a crime of opportunity or perversion.
- 6:57Speaker 2: It was about preserving a power dynamic.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Explain that what was the relationship between Memin and Hamsa.
- 7:03Speaker 2: They were living together in Mamen's apartment. May mean was
- 7:06Speaker 2: the provider. He paid for everything, the rent, the car, everything.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Hamza was completely dependent.
- 7:11Speaker 1: On him, So there's a clear financial dependency. But what
- 7:14Speaker 1: was the state of their relationship.
- 7:15Speaker 2: It was falling apart. According to Hamsa's confession, Mekamene was
- 7:19Speaker 2: getting tired of him. He was thinking of ending the arrangement.
- 7:22Speaker 1: So Hams is feeling desperate. He's about to lose his housing,
- 7:25Speaker 1: his car, his entire lifestyle.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Exactly he's panicking and to try and secure his position,
- 7:31Speaker 2: to re establish his value to Mechamin, he makes this
- 7:35Speaker 2: horrifying proposal.
- 7:37Speaker 1: He offers to find children.
- 7:38Speaker 2: He offers to find children for may Ca mean to assault.
- 7:41Speaker 2: It's a transaction and act designed purely to appease, make nean,
- 7:45Speaker 2: and keep his own comfortable situation going. It's a crime
- 7:48Speaker 2: born from self preservation, and the.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Football match was the perfect cover. The empty streets that
- 7:53Speaker 1: distracted police. But the murders. That wasn't part of the
- 7:58Speaker 1: original plan, was it.
- 7:59Speaker 2: No, that was an act of panic. The media coverage
- 8:01Speaker 2: after the boys disappeared was so intense, the police dragonet
- 8:05Speaker 2: was so massive. They realized they were trapped.
- 8:07Speaker 1: They couldn't hold onto the children any longer without being discovered.
- 8:10Speaker 2: They couldn't, so they killed them to dispose of the evidence.
- 8:13Speaker 2: It was a cover up for the initial calculated crime,
- 8:16Speaker 2: a chillingly rational decision in their minds.
- 8:19Speaker 1: First they calculated the best time to abduct them, then
- 8:23Speaker 1: they calculated the necessary brutality to get rid of them.
- 8:26Speaker 2: It's a sustained, deliberate chain of events, all driven by
- 8:30Speaker 2: this toxic, dysfunctional relationship.
- 8:33Speaker 1: The arrests, though they didn't bring any real closure. The
- 8:37Speaker 1: whole country felt this loss. There were massive protests, riots,
- 8:41Speaker 1: even demanding justice.
- 8:43Speaker 2: And the courts delivered what the public was screaming for.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Both Momin and Hamza were convicted and sentenced to death.
- 8:50Speaker 1: But and this is the final frustrating twist in this story,
- 8:54Speaker 1: the sentence was never carried out right.
- 8:56Speaker 2: And this is because of a specific feature of Algerian law.
- 9:00Speaker 2: It's been a moratorium on all executions since nineteen ninety.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Three, a policy put in place for reasons that had
- 9:05Speaker 1: nothing to do with a crime like this.
- 9:06Speaker 2: It was a product of the Algerian Civil War and
- 9:09Speaker 2: subsequent international pressure. So even though the court gives the
- 9:12Speaker 2: death sentence, the state itself will not carry it out.
- 9:15Speaker 1: So mum And and Hams are soul alive.
- 9:17Speaker 2: They are alive today serving perpetual sentences in prison, which
- 9:21Speaker 2: creates this incredible tension in society. The system has acknowledged
- 9:26Speaker 2: the horror of the crime with its harshest sentence, but
- 9:28Speaker 2: a legal mechanism frozen in time prevents what the public
- 9:32Speaker 2: sees as the final act of justice.
- 9:34Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? It leaves you with
- 9:36Speaker 1: a really challenging question to think about when public outrage
- 9:39Speaker 1: over a crime this horrific is so overwhelming. What is
- 9:42Speaker 1: the ultimate purpose of justice when legal policy enacted decades
- 9:45Speaker 1: earlier for entirely different reasons, stands in direct conflict with
- 9:49Speaker 1: that moral demand for finality