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The Next Round: Case Keenum Stuns the Eagles + Alabama-Mississippi State Showdown | Hour 1 · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: We'll try not to talk about the Protect College Sports Act.
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Speaker 1: That seems to be a big talking point after it
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Speaker 1: passed last night in the Senate. Because I'm told from
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Speaker 1: Pat Forty, who covers everything college athletics, there's a, wait
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Speaker 1: for it, a 0.0% chance it ever gets voted on
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Speaker 1: in the House before the November midterms. So you're saying
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Speaker 1: there's a chance? Actually, no, I'm not saying there's a chance.
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Speaker 1: Glad we went to that effort. Yeah, but maybe they'll
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Speaker 1: get to it. I don't know what the House does
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Speaker 1: between now and November's midterm, but that's for Buck and
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Speaker 1: Clay a little bit later on, maybe. But it passed
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Speaker 1: last night easily, 77 to 22, which leaves you one
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Speaker 1: vote short of having 100 people not doing their jobs
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Speaker 1: last night. Also, we'll get to college football. A lot
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Speaker 1: of talk about Alabama's travel plans. Try to calm the
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Speaker 1: waters a little bit on that as Alabama and Mississippi
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Speaker 1: State becomes one of the biggest, if not the biggest
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Speaker 1: game in the country this weekend. We start with the
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Speaker 1: NFL last night. What a feel-good story for Case Keenum.
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Speaker 1: I could not stop watching the postgame. when he's with
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Speaker 1: his daughter and the family, and then his daughter's with
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Speaker 1: him on SVP. That was a great interview. Yeah. And
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Speaker 1: then she was just, you know, up past your bedtime,
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Speaker 1: a thousand plus days since his last start, he's 38
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Speaker 1: years old and he comes out and he patches the
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Speaker 1: gap between Caleb Williams and the bears victory lane. And
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Speaker 1: they get a win 27 to seven and Lance, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't just a win. He looked good doing it, but
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Speaker 1: it was against a pretty monstrous defense in the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where we are on the Eagles
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Speaker 2: right now. If you go back, they beat a Commander's team.
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Speaker 2: It was a one-possession game. Then they go on the road.
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Speaker 2: They were lucky to beat the Titans last week. And
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Speaker 2: then the performance last night, I thought Jalen Hurts was
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Speaker 2: really uneven. Unfortunately for Eagles fans, Andy Dalton threw One pass,
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Speaker 2: and it was picked off in the end zone. The
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Speaker 2: defense didn't look good, but yeah, incredible story. Case Keenum
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Speaker 2: has played for 25% of the NFL. Literally eight teams,
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Speaker 2: two stints with my Rams.
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Speaker 1: For those that don't know me, where was Case Keenum
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Speaker 1: before he jumped in last night? Was he on the
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Speaker 1: roster already? Yeah, he signed with them last year. Bills
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Speaker 1: most recently, right?
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Speaker 2: Maybe before this, but he signed last year with the Bears.
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Speaker 2: Because Bill Lazar-Lazur, who's the guy with the Dolphins?
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Speaker 1: He's a front office guy.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, he introduced Ben Johnson to Case Keenum. They had
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Speaker 2: a conversation last year. It was supposed to be a
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Speaker 2: 15-minute conversation. It turned into a multi-hour conversation, and that's
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Speaker 2: what he got him because of his knowledge of the
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Speaker 2: offense to sign with the Bears. Emergency situation. Tyson Badgett
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Speaker 2: was in concussion protocol most of the week, practiced one day,
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Speaker 2: and They said, let's roll the dice. 1,000 in 10 days.
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Speaker 1: What the hell? Yeah, 1,000 in 10 days. And so,
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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, Case Keenum getting this opportunity
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Speaker 1: is a great story. But is this just another... checkmark, star,
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Speaker 1: however you want to put it in the Ben Johnson
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Speaker 1: resume that they can call the plays this good? I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw the stat, and I
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Speaker 1: was not around. I had to pick my daughter up
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Speaker 1: from soccer, so I wasn't around for the start of
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Speaker 1: the game. So I don't know how much they talked
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Speaker 1: about it on the actual broadcast, but on the NFL
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Speaker 1: shows leading up, that is the first time Ben Johnson
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Speaker 1: has ever, as a coordinator or head coach, had a
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback play. Oh, wow. I mean, I thought that
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Speaker 1: was pretty remarkable in the NFL. It's hard to believe,
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Speaker 1: I guess.
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Speaker 2: But Jared Goff, when he was a coordinator, was pretty durable.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Caleb Williams all last year. So Ben
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Speaker 1: Johnson had never really been in this situation.
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Speaker 2: So I would say, yeah, that's a check. But the
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Speaker 2: last start, Christmas Eve of 2023. Yeah, 38 years old.
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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody thinks Stafford's old and Aaron Rodgers. Well,
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Speaker 2: I guess Aaron Rodgers is older, but. I mean, Case
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Speaker 2: Keenum's up there.
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Speaker 1: By the way, Aaron Rodgers' team's 2-1, and he looked
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Speaker 1: pretty dang good throwing the football the other day. He
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Speaker 1: looks a lot younger this year than he did last year.
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Speaker 1: So you asked the question. I don't know where we
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Speaker 1: are on the Eagles. The other day, I was riding
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Speaker 1: around listening to SiriusXM Prime Country. That's my choice on
3:52
Speaker 1: SiriusXM Prime Country. And the girl comes on, and she's like,
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Speaker 1: if you want more sports, we now have... Local sports
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Speaker 1: talk stations on Sirius XM 94 or 95. By the way,
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Speaker 1: I rode with Brown to and from Auburn. Oh, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know that. Oh, yeah. He brought it up last
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Speaker 1: week on the show how much he's listened to the fans.
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Speaker 2: I heard him say the fan, but I didn't put
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Speaker 2: it together with.
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Speaker 1: Sirius XM's carry. So we're coming back from Auburn, and
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Speaker 1: he is bouncing me around. Let's see what they're talking
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Speaker 1: about in Philly. Let's see what they're talking about in
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Speaker 1: New York. Let's see what they're talking about in Chicago.
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Speaker 1: Let's see what they're talking about in San Francisco. A
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Speaker 1: lot of NBA that day, by the way. I was like,
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Speaker 1: my goodness. So much NBA because everybody was doing their
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Speaker 1: media days. It's still a big sport. But you know
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Speaker 1: what I wanted to hear? The NFL games coming up
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Speaker 1: in all these major markets because I want to hear
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Speaker 1: what they were saying anyway. So this morning I turned
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Speaker 1: on WIP in Philadelphia. It's like Sirius XM 96 or
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Speaker 1: something like that. WIP, I'm like, I bet this is
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Speaker 1: a meltdown. Boy, was I so satisfied. It was a meltdown.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they are pissed at Sirianni. They're pissed at
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Speaker 1: the defense. They don't think they've got a good roster.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was everything you could complain about. I mean, look,
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Speaker 1: they were running the football effectively. I mean, Saquon averaged
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Speaker 1: five and a half yards a carry. That was the
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Speaker 1: worst offensive performance in the Nick Sirianni era for whatever
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Speaker 1: that's worth.
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Speaker 2: But 10 penalties. Three turnovers. They haven't had a takeaway
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Speaker 2: in their first three games, which is pretty hard to
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Speaker 2: do unless you're the Jets.
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Speaker 1: One of the morning show hosts in WIP in Philadelphia
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Speaker 1: thinks Sirianni's calling more plays now. That's his theory. So
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Speaker 1: they're in the Gus Malzahn, Rhett Lashley, the Hugh and
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Speaker 1: Monty era? I got to tell you, Cotty, I think
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Speaker 1: Nick's back to calling the plays. Do you really? I do.
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Speaker 1: He's only calling the bad plays.
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Speaker 2: Did they bring up A.J. Brown ain't walking through that door?
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Speaker 1: They did not bring up A.J. Brown ain't walking through
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Speaker 1: that door. They got pissed at Sirianni for not, well,
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say pissed. They were questioning whether he should
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Speaker 1: have taken a timeout. when Hurts went into a concussion.
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Speaker 2: Oh, he should have, because if you didn't know, I mean,
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Speaker 2: you saw how animated Hurts was. Like, take the timeout.
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Speaker 2: It's third down. Even if you're going to run a
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Speaker 2: play there, I know he's a veteran in Andy Dalton.
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Speaker 1: He's played a lot of football. Don't throw the ball, though. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's like almost you've got to do something really safe
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Speaker 1: in that situation. I mean, at least protect the three.
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Speaker 1: You've got to keep, yeah, that's right. Jalen at least
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Speaker 1: can run it and protect the three. Yeah, protect the three.
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Speaker 1: If you bring Dalton in and be like, Let's do
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Speaker 1: something safe, kick a field goal here. It's not ideal,
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Speaker 1: but we can't leave with nothing.
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Speaker 2: But if I would have told you three total touchdowns
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Speaker 2: for one of the starting quarterbacks, one rushing and two throwing,
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Speaker 2: you would have said 100%.
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Speaker 1: It was the other side. That's right, yes. If you
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Speaker 1: had told me Case Keenum was starting, I would have
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Speaker 1: never turned it on to start with. I got caught
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Speaker 1: into just it being such a great story. And him
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Speaker 1: playing so well, it just drew me in. 247 yards,
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns, runs one in, and they win the game 27-7.
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Speaker 1: How long is Caleb out? He could be back next week.
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Speaker 2: It is a week-to-week thing. I don't think he's going
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Speaker 2: to be back next week.
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Speaker 1: But they'll go back to Bajent, right? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: You can't expect Case Keenum to do this week in,
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Speaker 1: week out. The guy's 100. I mean, if he understands
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Speaker 1: the offense so well, he made the plays, he's a veteran.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's one special night, but he did nothing last
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Speaker 1: night to not ride with him until he until Caleb's
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Speaker 1: back 100.
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Speaker 2: I don't think they can keep it up, but they
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Speaker 2: do have two capable running backs, really good backs, and
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Speaker 2: you've got multiple tight ends, and Luther Burden is a
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Speaker 2: guy that can make some.
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Speaker 1: Plays in the perimeter.
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Speaker 2: So in this offense, it might work for a couple
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Speaker 2: of weeks. If you want to get to where they
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Speaker 2: want to ultimately get to, they've got to get Caleb
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Speaker 2: Williams back. I don't know if you guys saw the postgame,
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Speaker 2: but it was a really emotional speech for Case Keenum
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Speaker 2: in the locker room.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And standing behind him was Caleb Williams in a robe.
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Speaker 1: Did you see that? I didn't notice the robe.
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Speaker 2: Everybody else has got their pads on.
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Speaker 1: He's wearing a robe. He's wearing a robe. Just shaking
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Speaker 1: his head. No, but the one you mentioned. First of all,
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Speaker 1: SVP's a very good interviewer. And Keenum's got his daughter
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Speaker 1: sitting in his lap. And you can tell he's emotional.
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Speaker 1: That was really cool. That was good for him, man.
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Speaker 1: Because as SVP pointed out, Last time you played meaningful football,
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Speaker 1: your kids aren't old enough to remember that. This girl
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Speaker 1: right here has got a chance of remembering this night.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all forget how close Case Keenum
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Speaker 2: was to a Super Bowl. Remember when Stephon Diggs had
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Speaker 2: the walk-off against the Saints in the divisional round? Then
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Speaker 2: Case Keenum was the starting quarterback for the Vikings when
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Speaker 2: they hosted Nick Foles in Philadelphia.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 2: But then Foles in Philadelphia made it out.
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Speaker 1: Keenum was really, really close.
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Speaker 2: To potentially being a Super Bowl-winning quarterback.
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Speaker 1: So 25% of the league he's played for. Yeah, eight teams. Now,
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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. Can you name them all? Minnesota. Minnesota, Philadelphia, Buffalo. Minnesota, Chicago,
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Speaker 1: Buffalo for sure.
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Speaker 2: The Texans, the Rams, the Bears now, the Vikings, and
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Speaker 2: there's one more.
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Speaker 1: Lions? I got you. Let me know when you're ready
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Speaker 1: to give up. You've missed. You've missed two, actually.
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Speaker 2: Oh, really?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you duplicated the Bears. We got Bears, Texans, Bills, Browns.
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Speaker 1: God bless them.
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Speaker 3: Rams.
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Speaker 1: Rams.
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Speaker 3: Vikings.
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Speaker 1: Vikings. Broncos, Commanders. That's the eight. Commanders.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have never got the Commanders.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good story. And now Chicago is... Up
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Speaker 1: with the best. We'll do our NFL power rankings tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: You guys will send them to the Brooks if you
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Speaker 1: haven't yet, Brown. I have not yet, Jim.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the Bears aren't going to be there
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Speaker 2: for me right now when Caleb Williams comes back possibly.
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Speaker 2: The Dennis Allen defense, I think, was a story. And look,
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Speaker 2: this Philadelphia offense is uneven right now, 2-9 on third
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Speaker 2: downs last night, less than 250 total yards with the
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Speaker 2: three turnovers. But if the Dennis Allen defense can just
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Speaker 2: limit teams to 17 to 21 points per Every single Sunday,
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Speaker 2: they're going to be in a great spot. Also in
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Speaker 2: the NFL yesterday, J.J. McCarthy gets traded to the New
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Speaker 2: York Giants for a fifth-round draft pick in the 2027
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Speaker 2: draft coming up. They say Jameis Winston will still be QB1,
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Speaker 2: but JJ's got to learn the offense a little bit, right?
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Speaker 1: Maybe? Yeah, I just don't know why.
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Speaker 2: This is such a weird situation because now you're going
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Speaker 2: to be paying JJ McCarthy, who was selected in the
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Speaker 2: same round as your starting quarterback now in Jackson Dart,
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Speaker 2: You're paying J.J. McCarthy more money than you're paying Jackson Dart.
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Speaker 1: Which makes no sense.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how much J.J. McCarthy's going to play.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how big of a factor he'll be. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: this was a conversation between his college coach, Jim Harbaugh,
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Speaker 2: and now his current coach, John Harbaugh.
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Speaker 4: That's right.
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Speaker 2: And saying, hey, I think this guy could work for you.
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Speaker 2: The thing they love is his athleticism, and that's what
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Speaker 2: you have with Jackson Dart.
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Speaker 1: Well, obviously, they won this past weekend thanks to the
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Speaker 1: Nor'easter and the Titans, 12-7, so they've got to win.
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Speaker 1: But their roster, everywhere but quarterback— was a playoff contender.
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Speaker 1: So they were like, hey, fifth round draft pick for
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Speaker 1: a potential one-time first round draft pick, potential guy that
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Speaker 1: could fit our system. They went all in and say, okay,
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Speaker 1: we're only giving up a fifth. That's valuable real estate,
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Speaker 1: but we're going to give it up. Going to pay
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Speaker 1: a little extra money to have two first-round quarterbacks on
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Speaker 1: our roster and see if we can find something the
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Speaker 1: Vikings were unable to find. When you've got the roster
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Speaker 1: in this period of time, you've got to go ahead
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Speaker 1: and gamble, I guess.
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Speaker 2: You guys remember when Jackson Dart came in middle of
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Speaker 2: the season last year and just kind of the resurgence
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Speaker 2: for that entire team and just the energy that he
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Speaker 2: infused him in Scataboo. Imagine if J.J. McCarthy comes in
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Speaker 2: and plays well. then what do you do with Jackson
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Speaker 2: Dart and J.J.
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Speaker 1: McCarthy?
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Speaker 2: Then do you have.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. You've got two guys on a rookie deal,
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Speaker 1: so it's not the most expensive situation. Yeah. I think if... Oh,
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Speaker 1: if Dart comes back? No, Dart's not coming back this year,
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Speaker 1: but I'm saying... But you mean if he finishes... If J.J.
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Speaker 2: McCarthy plays and they end up going 10-7 and he's
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Speaker 2: playing really well, where's Jackson Dart's confidence coming into the
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Speaker 2: next season?
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Speaker 1: Try to trade one of them. Yeah. I think I'd
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Speaker 1: still ride with Jackson Dart.
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Speaker 5: And.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Can you hold on to two? By
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Speaker 1: the way, this just shows what I always talk about
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Speaker 1: on the show. Like the Dolphins got called for a
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Speaker 1: very frustrating roughing the passer because, of course, it was Mahomes. And,
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Speaker 1: you know, I got pissed about it. But then I think,
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Speaker 1: of course, this weekend, Jameis Winston is starting a game
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Speaker 1: in case Keenum starting a game, which you hate it
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Speaker 1: when it's called on your team roughing the passer. But
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Speaker 1: you get it right. Why the NFL protects the quarterback
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Speaker 1: so much. Because we're into week four of the NFL,
12:17
Speaker 1: and in week three we've already had Jameis Winston start
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Speaker 1: a game and Case Keenum start a game.
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Speaker 2: Well, when Jalen Hurts went out last night and they
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Speaker 2: had to put him in the tent just to review
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Speaker 2: for the concussion, that hit, if that would have been
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Speaker 2: on a Kyler Murray, it would have sent him into
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Speaker 2: the stands.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jalen's a big guy.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't a dirty hit, but I understand
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Speaker 2: why they're going to throw the flag. And you know
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Speaker 2: that was obviously offsetting penalties because there was a hold
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Speaker 2: on the Eagles. But boy, that's one of those that
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts can take.
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Speaker 1: Not to hit the wrong quarterback. Yeah, they're out for
12:45
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. We've jacked up the kickoff so much.
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Speaker 1: Why don't we just make the quarterbacks, they can't run,
12:51
Speaker 1: and they're down by contact. You touch them, standing up.
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Speaker 1: Some people in the chat yesterday, in reference to the
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Speaker 1: Dante Moore situation, were talking about it might actually make
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Speaker 1: it safer now if the slide was eliminated. Yeah. That's
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Speaker 1: what we were talking about. You kind of sort of
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Speaker 1: brought that up.
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Speaker 2: Like a lot of quarterbacks– won't slide like that because
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Speaker 2: you don't know what to do. You give yourself up 100%.
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Speaker 1: They're legitimate NFL, not NFL, quarterback coaches who believe that
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Speaker 1: sliding puts you at more risk than taking a hit.
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Speaker 1: The fear that the coaching should be to teach your
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Speaker 1: quarterback how to take a hit, to avoid a direct hit.
13:31
Speaker 1: The only fear I have is a guy going low
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Speaker 1: because now you can blow my quarterback's knee up and
13:37
Speaker 1: now I'm really screwed. Of course, Oregon's screwed right now
13:40
Speaker 1: if Dante Moore's out for an extended period of time,
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Speaker 1: which I don't know that he will be. It's concussion.
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Speaker 1: You never know with those things.
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Speaker 2: I saw something in a game Sunday that I haven't seen.
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Speaker 1: It was Chargers and Bills.
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen is rolling around, gets in a situation where
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Speaker 2: he's got nothing downfield, can't get out of bounds. He
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Speaker 2: takes a knee in the middle of three Chargers defenders.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I guess that's safer than sliding. Well, yeah, and he
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Speaker 2: got popped, and it wasn't really much. And, of course,
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Speaker 2: he's begging for the flag, as he always does.
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Speaker 1: That's all Josh Allen does.
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Speaker 2: But, you know, that– I guess that's one way you
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Speaker 2: could do it.
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Speaker 1: It looks worse than a slide. It looks so awkward.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to use the E word on the end.
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Speaker 1: It looks like a poon move. That's the other thing
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Speaker 1: they were talking about on Philadelphia Sports Radio. Sirianni got
14:22
Speaker 1: caught on camera using that word. And they're debating, is
14:26
Speaker 1: he too emotional now? It's undefeated. Not the way he's
14:29
Speaker 1: using it, but it's undefeated.
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Speaker 2: You talk about Sirianni, and he's not a very likable
14:33
Speaker 2: guy unless he's your guy.
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Speaker 1: And obviously Philly fans... I don't know how much loyalty
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Speaker 1: is there.
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Speaker 2: I saw it last night, the best September record in
14:45
Speaker 2: NFL history.
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Speaker 1: He's got two Super Bowl appearances.
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Speaker 2: He's got a Super Bowl ring.
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Speaker 1: I know, but boy, he gets no respect. He does. Tyler,
14:51
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17:38
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17:41
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17:46
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17:53
Speaker 1: Everybody want to get a one-on-one real quick? The most
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Speaker 1: amazing sound coming out of the weekend is from the
18:00
Speaker 1: USC radio broadcast. Before you hit it, Tyler, let me
18:04
Speaker 1: set everybody up for this. Let's see, where is this?
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Speaker 1: I wrote down the guys' names. Okay, you've got Peter Abergast.
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Speaker 1: Pete Arbogast, yeah. Pete Arbogast, who's been on the show.
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Speaker 1: That's right. He's a play-by-play voice. He'll be the guy
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Speaker 1: in the Hawaiian USC shirt. The Analyst. who you'll want
18:22
Speaker 1: to stay until the very end of this clip, is
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Speaker 1: Sean Cody. And you watch his facial expression here. During
18:30
Speaker 1: the Dante Moore hit, this is what was going on
18:33
Speaker 1: on USC radio. And, by the way, this was cut
18:37
Speaker 1: out for sure. This was cut out and put into
18:39
Speaker 1: the Oregon postgame hype video. Is that correct? That is correct.
18:43
Speaker 1: This is part of a 21-and-a-half-minute cinematic recap of the
18:49
Speaker 1: game put out on Oregon's official Twitter account. Okay, so
18:54
Speaker 1: from Oregon, they have snipped this off. Usually broadcast teams
18:59
Speaker 1: on Facebook or Instagram, they've got just a camera on
19:02
Speaker 1: the booth now. They're sponsoring it, and people want to
19:05
Speaker 1: watch the broadcast team do it. Alabama does it. I
19:07
Speaker 1: think Auburn does it. So you're able to watch your
19:09
Speaker 1: broadcast team and watch you know, call the game and
19:12
Speaker 1: all that. And this is how it is actually put
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Speaker 1: out by Oregon, not AI. This is really during the
19:18
Speaker 1: Dante Moore hit, how it played on USC radio. He
19:21
Speaker 1: did not.
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Speaker 3: Try to slide feet first, and Stevens went in helmet first,
19:26
Speaker 3: but he kind of ran into... Dante Moore, who ducked
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Speaker 3: into that hit. I did not see him put his
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Speaker 3: feet out first.
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Speaker 1: I saw him dive forward. He's laying feet first. He
19:38
Speaker 1: is now because I spun him around. I want to
19:40
Speaker 1: see the replay. Here he goes down into it.
19:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, not a feet first slide, more of a knee slide.
19:46
Speaker 3: It didn't look like targeting on the replay to us.
19:49
Speaker 1: Yeah. my man the analyst is like i ain't going out.
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Speaker 2: Of this shit just just own it pete you didn't see.
19:57
Speaker 1: It yeah pete his uh pete his feet are stuck
20:01
Speaker 1: well they are now yeah pete knows where that check
20:03
Speaker 1: comes from first off They got USC on that check there,
20:07
Speaker 1: but O'Shaughnessy looking at the audience. I like the spotter
20:10
Speaker 1: in the background, too. Don't miss the spotter. He's like,
20:13
Speaker 1: this is a piss poor call. Play it again. The
20:15
Speaker 1: spotters are always even more animated than the play-by-play guy.
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Speaker 1: The spotter doesn't have a microphone, so he's got to
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Speaker 1: be animated.
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Speaker 3: He did not try to slide feet first, and Stevens
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Speaker 3: went in helmet first, but he kind of ran into...
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Speaker 3: Dante Moore, who ducked into that hit. I did not
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Speaker 3: see him put his feet out first. I saw him
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Speaker 3: dive forward.
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Speaker 1: He's laying feet first. He is now because they spun
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Speaker 1: him around. I want to see the replay. Here he
20:42
Speaker 1: goes down into it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, not a feet first slide, more of a knee slide.
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Speaker 3: It didn't look like targeting on the replay to us.
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Speaker 1: Spider's like, rub some dirt on it and get up, Dante.
20:52
Speaker 1: This is like.
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Speaker 4: Like an office reaction right here.
20:57
Speaker 1: I would agree, yeah. It didn't look like targeting. Oh,
21:02
Speaker 1: that is amazing. Amazing. And Oregon all in on putting
21:05
Speaker 1: it out. Sean Cody with it. That was fantastic.
21:07
Speaker 2: Oregon has become the most petty trolling program.
21:11
Speaker 1: They really, I mean, it comes from the coach a
21:13
Speaker 1: little bit, right? Dan Lanning loves it, doesn't he? Yeah.
21:15
Speaker 1: Is this that heated a rivalry or is this just
21:18
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning being Dan Lanning? I think it's Dan Lanning
21:20
Speaker 1: and Lincoln Riley.
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Speaker 2: Well, and they battle for a lot of the same guys.
21:25
Speaker 1: Oregon's biggest recruiting base is Southern California. So, I mean,
21:28
Speaker 1: I get it. And I think it's hilarious because, you know,
21:33
Speaker 1: I'm done with Lincoln. I'm done. I think most people are.
21:36
Speaker 1: His feet are out, Pete. Well, they are now. They
21:39
Speaker 1: are now. Yes. Pete was like, you rearranged his anatomy.
21:42
Speaker 1: He's got a bullet hole in his chest. Well, he
21:44
Speaker 1: does now. Well, he does now. But he shouldn't have
21:46
Speaker 1: run into the bullet. He saw the guy with the gun.
21:50
Speaker 1: Who do you want as the next coach at USC?
21:53
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not ready to go Buster Faulkner. I
21:56
Speaker 2: do think Bob Chesney. I mean, just every time I
21:58
Speaker 2: watch them play, and I don't think it's going to happen.
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Speaker 1: That would be such a villain move. But, I mean,
22:02
Speaker 1: we saw.
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Speaker 2: Texas and Texas A & M switch a baseball.
22:05
Speaker 1: Coach, right? Yeah, baseball's different, but yeah. It is very different.
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Speaker 2: I know Brown said, I'm not ready to say that Chesney...
22:12
Speaker 2: I feel like we've been quick on this guy. Yeah,
22:15
Speaker 2: we have, but I don't know. I just like disciplined programs,
22:19
Speaker 2: and you don't see.
22:20
Speaker 1: A lot of them. I watched... I've watched more of
22:24
Speaker 1: their games than I realized I would because they play
22:27
Speaker 1: that late-night game so much. And they look good, and
22:30
Speaker 1: they look well-coached, but what's the combined record of their wins?
22:36
Speaker 1: San Diego State's been bad. Cal has been bad, and
22:39
Speaker 1: Maryland is awful. I don't want to discount it either
22:43
Speaker 1: because I do think he's done a good job.
22:45
Speaker 2: I think John Sumrall has buried himself in the South
22:47
Speaker 2: way too long. I think he needs to just go
22:49
Speaker 2: try the West.
22:50
Speaker 1: Coast for about a decade. Obviously, we'll talk Alabama throughout
22:56
Speaker 1: the show. Kalen DeBoer will be a popular name.
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Speaker 2: And Alabama still, as good as they are, and look,
23:02
Speaker 2: they might end up going 16-0. I think they've got
23:05
Speaker 2: losses coming up, so... even if you get to the
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Speaker 2: end of the year and Kalen's won 10 or 11
23:09
Speaker 2: games and has won a playoff game or two, I
23:12
Speaker 2: think it's always on the table.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be now. It's going to be a
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Speaker 1: Kalen decision if he ever leaves. Yeah. Now Jimmy Sexton
23:19
Speaker 1: might be able to fleece Greg Byrne on the Michigan
23:22
Speaker 1: job at the Penn State job. That's going to be
23:23
Speaker 1: a hard fleecing on the USC job. Yeah. I just,
23:27
Speaker 1: I mean, Jimmy Sexton, that's going to be a hard
23:29
Speaker 1: one to sell. I'm just saying there are a lot
23:31
Speaker 1: of programs that will want Kalen DeBoer as a, Time continues.
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Speaker 2: Are you saying that's with Jimmy Sexton, not just saying
23:39
Speaker 2: it to say it like.
23:41
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying that's going to be a hard sell
23:42
Speaker 1: to get more money out of Alabama for. Oh, I
23:45
Speaker 1: got to do it again.
23:46
Speaker 5: Yeah.
23:46
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, all I'm saying is that would be
23:49
Speaker 1: so really Kaylin is going to leave Alabama and go
23:51
Speaker 1: out there and have a half full stadium. and have
23:56
Speaker 1: to fly all the way across the country to play
23:58
Speaker 1: all these games and have to be a misfit in
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Speaker 1: a conference. You really want me to believe that one, Jimmy?
24:03
Speaker 1: I believed you on Michigan. I'm not believing you on
24:05
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, he was at Washington. You remember that, right?
24:07
Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 6: I do.
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Speaker 2: So you really don't think it's a possibility?
24:11
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not a possibility. I'm saying... I'm
24:13
Speaker 1: sorry I brought it up at this point. What? No,
24:16
Speaker 1: I'm saying... No, we went down a totally different road. I.
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Speaker 1: I think it would be a possibility.
24:23
Speaker 2: If he decides that he is not happy at Alabama,
24:27
Speaker 2: if he's not getting the respect to the fan base,
24:30
Speaker 2: and for whatever that means to him, it doesn't mean
24:32
Speaker 2: a lot to Ryan Grubb, then, you know, a logical place?
24:37
Speaker 2: There's only so many really good jobs on the West Coast, right?
24:40
Speaker 1: That's right. And that's the only way, I believe. Yeah,
24:43
Speaker 1: I agree. Because it's too much money for Alabama to
24:45
Speaker 1: ever fire him again. The success is there.
24:48
Speaker 4: They're 4-0.
24:49
Speaker 1: They're ranked No. 7 in the country. I don't think
24:51
Speaker 1: we're in a fleecing year from Jimmy Sexton. Jimmy's always fleecing.
24:56
Speaker 2: Look, I think it's going to be a really good
24:57
Speaker 2: year for DeBoer again.
24:58
Speaker 1: I do too. I do too.
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Speaker 2: With that said, you just never know what somebody is
25:03
Speaker 2: going to do if they're not 100% happy. And I'm
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Speaker 2: not saying he's not.
25:08
Speaker 1: That's right. We don't know. We're not inside his head.
25:10
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying there are always teams that are
25:14
Speaker 1: going to want this guy. That's how– I only brought
25:17
Speaker 1: it up to– to let Alabama fans know again how
25:22
Speaker 1: wanted this coach is going to be. He was wanted
25:25
Speaker 1: last year by Michigan, and if Lincoln Riley is bounced,
25:28
Speaker 1: he'll be wanted by USC.
25:30
Speaker 2: And he is in a great spot. He knows that.
25:32
Speaker 2: But in his head, there's probably two, three, four, five
25:35
Speaker 2: jobs that he might consider based on circumstances, and I
25:38
Speaker 2: think USC would be one of those jobs.
25:41
Speaker 1: Later, we've got Jeff Collins on the show. The coach,
25:46
Speaker 1: and now he's just, you know, during this period of
25:48
Speaker 1: his life, breaking down tape and doing some media work.
25:51
Speaker 1: Unbelievable breakdown of some Alabama tape. So we'll talk to
25:54
Speaker 1: Jeff Collins about Alabama and some other things coming up
25:57
Speaker 1: to start Hour 2, 11 Eastern, 10 Central. After that,
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Speaker 1: we'll do our upset alert with a new leader and
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Speaker 1: two guys who said opposite of one of the new
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Speaker 1: leaders who plan on getting hot on the upset alert.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Flipmas, Will Stein, Kentucky, is supposed to do
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Speaker 1: some good. I sort of like this. They're on the
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Speaker 1: road this week, but their next home game is against LSU.
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Speaker 1: This is the Kentucky I grew up with, all right?
27:03
Speaker 1: They're bringing the Power K back in a throwback uniform
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Speaker 1: game against LSU today. They're putting the Power K in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the field. So this was the helmet,
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Speaker 1: the uniform of my youth with Kentucky. They haven't worn
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Speaker 1: these since 1996. It's a good-looking uniform. And they're going
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Speaker 1: to bring it back. I do like the colors. The
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Speaker 1: K's a little shaky. Yeah, I don't like the cats
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Speaker 1: in the stripe. I don't remember that. Yeah, I don't
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Speaker 1: like the cats in the stripe. I don't like the
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Speaker 1: Kentucky checkerboard. I don't understand why they use the checkers.
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Speaker 1: It's for horse racing, right? Yeah, that's right. Something to
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Speaker 2: I don't like the Tennessee checkerboard.
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Speaker 1: I know, but I think of Tennessee when I think
27:43
Speaker 1: of checkerboard. It's at least historic with Tennessee, yeah. I
27:47
Speaker 1: think UK is their better logo, the interlocking UK. Yeah.
27:50
Speaker 1: But I like the white helmets and that K. But
27:53
Speaker 1: you're right. The K is a little shaky. While we're
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Speaker 1: on this, they wear a Wildcat emblem on their shoulder.
27:59
Speaker 1: I hate that, too. And I think that's the only
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Speaker 1: place they wear it. Like basketball doesn't use it. I'm like,
28:03
Speaker 1: why does football have its own Wildcat? They've used it
28:06
Speaker 1: on their. shorts have they it's an ugly wild it
28:09
Speaker 1: is i don't like it at all it's too it
28:11
Speaker 1: looks too much like a real wildcat it's a bad
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Speaker 2: I mean blue and white great color combination the kentucky
28:18
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28:25
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Speaker 1: when you look at the schedule, I know Ohio State, Iowa,
29:44
Speaker 1: they've got game day. That's two ranked teams there. I
29:48
Speaker 1: don't really see a path to victory for Iowa. Maybe
29:50
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Maybe it's going to pop up on somebody's
29:52
Speaker 1: upset alert. I think there are two touchdown dogs in
29:54
Speaker 1: that game, are there not? Yeah, there are 13 and
29:56
Speaker 1: a half right now. I mean, to me, the biggest
29:58
Speaker 1: game in the country. I just don't think Clemson can
30:00
Speaker 1: play with Miami Clemson. Also a two-touchdown dog, right? More
30:02
Speaker 1: than two touchdowns at home. Is it that big? Yeah,
30:05
Speaker 1: it's 17 and a half. 17 and a half. That's
30:07
Speaker 1: a three-score game. And that's the point spread with Clemson
30:10
Speaker 1: at home. Yeah, and Miami wanting to make a point
30:12
Speaker 1: on national TV. I mean, this is a rare Saturday
30:15
Speaker 1: game for Miami. I mean, it's 11 a.m. It's on ABC.
30:17
Speaker 1: But Alabama and Mississippi State is starting to look like
30:19
Speaker 1: the biggest game in the country. The SEC didn't do
30:21
Speaker 1: the scheduling the way they do now. And we've been
30:23
Speaker 1: asked about this in the chat room. When did this start?
30:25
Speaker 1: It's only a couple of years old that they've been
30:26
Speaker 1: doing this. It started last year. Yeah, last season. And
30:29
Speaker 1: where they basically announce a time window for every single
30:32
Speaker 1: game before the season starts. Had they not done that,
30:36
Speaker 1: Had they done it the way they used to, this
30:37
Speaker 1: would be your primetime ABC game. It would be, and
30:39
Speaker 1: how much fun would that be? It would be a blast. Now,
30:41
Speaker 1: Bama's catching a break.
30:42
Speaker 2: Now, going into the season, I would have said your
30:45
Speaker 2: bigger games would be Miami and Clemson, Washington, USC.
30:49
Speaker 3: I mean.
30:53
Speaker 1: I mean, Washington, USC on NBC, a lot of people
30:56
Speaker 1: thought would be almost for a playoff spot. In the preseason,
30:59
Speaker 1: we would have said, hey, sneaky good Louisville, NC State.
31:02
Speaker 1: We thought NC State would be better than they've been.
31:04
Speaker 2: But now Louisville's taken on a loss, and NC State's
31:06
Speaker 2: got multiple losses.
31:09
Speaker 1: 630 on Fox, we thought going into the season, if
31:11
Speaker 1: Deion had Colorado just decent, Texas Tech Colorado could have implications.
31:15
Speaker 1: There's a chance for Texas Tech to lose.
31:16
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, the Alabama-Mississippi State game becomes bigger if
31:19
Speaker 2: State wins this game.
31:20
Speaker 1: Oh, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. Cut one, Tyler.
31:24
Speaker 1: Here is Kalen DeBoer on what he's heard about playing
31:27
Speaker 1: in Starkville, cowbells and all of that. This is the
31:30
Speaker 1: Alabama coach. He's yet to go to Starkville, 85 miles
31:33
Speaker 1: from football stadium to football stadium.
31:36
Speaker 5: Just personally, this is one of those stadiums I haven't
31:38
Speaker 5: been in, played in, you know, no matter where I've been.
31:41
Speaker 5: And so just, you know, what I hear and from
31:45
Speaker 5: the people that I trust, it's going to be an
31:48
Speaker 5: absolute crazy environment.
31:50
Speaker 1: And, uh, we're going to be prepared for that.
31:51
Speaker 5: We talked about it as a team this morning and, uh,
31:54
Speaker 5: you know, we're looking for that challenge that we got
31:56
Speaker 5: to improve on the, the, the way we started, uh,
31:59
Speaker 5: the last road game. I think we've made a lot
32:01
Speaker 5: of strides in that way and we've, we've learned and
32:03
Speaker 5: grown since then. And so, um, you know, the week
32:07
Speaker 5: of preparation and us being our best, uh, is, is
32:10
Speaker 5: going to be important for us to go out there and,
32:13
Speaker 5: and do what we need to do, uh, to have
32:15
Speaker 5: success on Saturday against Mississippi state, who, Again, playing really
32:19
Speaker 5: good football.
32:20
Speaker 1: So they are going to bus a day of game
32:24
Speaker 1: to the stadium 85 miles away. Now, they were talking
32:28
Speaker 1: about this on the morning show on SiriusXM. A lot
32:31
Speaker 1: of people were talking about it yesterday. These teams rarely
32:37
Speaker 1: stay in the cities. For Alabama, sometimes in Starkville, they
32:41
Speaker 1: have a hotel they stay at in Starkville. Oh, really?
32:44
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, there's only one hotel in Starkville. That is
32:47
Speaker 1: big enough to host Alabama's traveling party. I'm surprised they
32:52
Speaker 1: actually stay in Starkville. I would assume Columbus or somewhere
32:54
Speaker 1: like that. Mississippi State is now staying at that hotel
32:56
Speaker 1: that in the past has hosted Alabama. Okay. So there's
33:00
Speaker 1: not another hotel that can accommodate in Starkville Alabama's traveling party. Well,
33:05
Speaker 1: that was a savvy move by Levy. I mean, that
33:07
Speaker 1: probably was something that played into that because now every
33:09
Speaker 1: opponent's got to find something else. Tupelo.
33:12
Speaker 5: Tupelo.
33:13
Speaker 1: Or Columbus is your closest big enough hotel to stay.
33:16
Speaker 2: Our buddy Brad, who's a big Mississippi State, Alabama guy,
33:19
Speaker 2: but goes to a ton of games over there, said
33:21
Speaker 2: Tupelo is kind of the go-to for people.
33:23
Speaker 1: Tupelo is where Alabama would stay, right? It's where LSU stays,
33:27
Speaker 1: where a lot of teams stay. What is that, from
33:29
Speaker 1: Tupelo to Starkville? 45 minutes, I think. 45 minutes, about
33:32
Speaker 1: 60 miles. Yeah. So Tupelo to Starkville is 45 minutes.
33:35
Speaker 2: But to let you know, you know, my— ex-wife Bethany
33:37
Speaker 2: used to work at the Marriott on Highway 280 way
33:39
Speaker 2: back in the day, and all of the visiting teams
33:42
Speaker 2: to Bryant-Denny would stay there.
33:44
Speaker 1: That's right. About 55 miles. About the same distance. And
33:48
Speaker 1: with police escorts, you're working your way down to 80.
33:51
Speaker 1: People are making a big deal about this. It's 85 miles.
33:55
Speaker 1: It's police escort. It's game day.
33:56
Speaker 2: You get to sleep in your own beds. I just
34:00
Speaker 2: don't think it's that big a deal for this game.
34:01
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a big deal, but here's when
34:02
Speaker 2: it becomes a big deal. If Alabama loses, people like
34:05
Speaker 2: to point at everything. It becomes Sean McVay in Australia. Yeah,
34:09
Speaker 2: like he did this wrong. Why would you break routine?
34:12
Speaker 2: I give Kalen DeBoer a lot of credit because he's
34:14
Speaker 2: not worried about the public opinion because I probably would
34:18
Speaker 2: be like, let's just keep proper routine.
34:20
Speaker 1: I think Nick Saban did this at least once. We
34:24
Speaker 1: don't play Mississippi State at Alabama every year anymore, but
34:27
Speaker 1: I think Saban did that At least one time.
34:31
Speaker 2: I mean, the kick time's got to have something to
34:33
Speaker 2: do with it, too, right?
34:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask. Do you think if
34:35
Speaker 1: it were 2.30 or night, you would do it differently?
34:36
Speaker 1: I think they would have stayed overnight. I don't know
34:39
Speaker 1: why I think that. Because of meeting rooms and routine meals?
34:42
Speaker 1: Because it's an hour. I mean, I just did it
34:45
Speaker 1: on Apple Maps, and I've got it at an hour
34:47
Speaker 1: and 29 minutes. And that's without a police escort. That's
34:50
Speaker 1: without a police escort. So let's say $ 1.
34:52
Speaker 7: 15.
34:52
Speaker 1: Yeah. If you've ever tried to keep up with a
34:55
Speaker 1: police escort, which I have, actually coming out of Starkville,
34:57
Speaker 1: I was allowed to jump into police escort one time.
35:01
Speaker 1: And you've got to lay on the gas. You've got
35:04
Speaker 1: to lay on the gas. They don't slow down. We're
35:06
Speaker 1: not going 70.
35:07
Speaker 7: Yeah.
35:10
Speaker 1: It's closer to 80. So $ 1. 15 instead of $ 45 is
35:13
Speaker 1: what we're looking at. So you may have added a
35:14
Speaker 1: half hour to the drive. But I was going to
35:16
Speaker 1: back it out. So Bama would arrive at the stadium
35:18
Speaker 1: around 9? Usually 2 to 2.5 hours before. So 8.30.
35:24
Speaker 1: So you're leaving Tuscaloosa at 7 a.m.? Yep. Buses roll
35:28
Speaker 1: probably at 7 a.m. out of Tuscaloosa, I would think.
35:31
Speaker 1: Maybe 7.45. 7.45. So you probably team breakfast at 6.30.
35:35
Speaker 1: I mean, that is an early start.
35:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would probably have that start for an 11
35:39
Speaker 2: o'clock anyway.
35:40
Speaker 1: Yeah. You're going to start early. There's no doubt.
35:42
Speaker 4: You're up early.
35:42
Speaker 1: This is why coaches like early road games because you
35:46
Speaker 1: don't have to fill the whole day. You've got a schedule.
35:48
Speaker 1: You've got to hit and go.
35:50
Speaker 5: Yeah.
35:50
Speaker 1: They hate sitting around the hotel for a late game. See,
35:53
Speaker 1: I think this is an advantage, Alabama, that it's 11 o'clock. Yeah.
35:56
Speaker 1: Just the atmosphere in the stadium. Zach says, as he
35:59
Speaker 1: remembers it, the game Tua broke his hip, so that
36:01
Speaker 1: would have been 2018. That was the last time. It
36:03
Speaker 1: was an 11 a.m. game, and I do believe Alabama
36:05
Speaker 1: drove day off. He said it was early, and they
36:06
Speaker 1: drove day off the day Tua broke his hip. So
36:09
Speaker 1: that was 2018. And that's why he broke his hip,
36:11
Speaker 1: because they drove day off. He broke his hip.
36:13
Speaker 2: I mean.
36:14
Speaker 1: The inconvenient truth is he broke his hip because he
36:16
Speaker 1: wouldn't give up on a play. And Saban wouldn't take
36:19
Speaker 1: him out of the game. Nick Saban believed in playing
36:20
Speaker 1: his starters in the third quarter, but that's aside the point.
36:23
Speaker 1: I agree with you.
36:24
Speaker 2: I think if this game is 2-30 or 6, I
36:26
Speaker 2: said weeks ago that I just had a feeling Mississippi
36:28
Speaker 2: State's going to win this game.
36:29
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a really good game.
36:31
Speaker 2: I would feel much better about State if it was
36:33
Speaker 2: later just to get that crowd lubed up. There's just
36:38
Speaker 2: something different about those home games, those home 11 o'clock games.
36:41
Speaker 2: You can try to have the buzz like Tennessee. I
36:44
Speaker 2: was texting back and forth with a buddy that was
36:46
Speaker 2: up in Neyland last week, and I was like, how's
36:48
Speaker 2: the atmosphere?
36:48
Speaker 1: And he's like, it's good, it's just too damn early.
36:50
Speaker 1: It's good, but it's not great. It's just too damn early.
36:53
Speaker 1: That was as big a game as you could have
36:54
Speaker 1: in Neyland. That's the number one team in the country.
36:56
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, it can't get any bigger this weekend.
36:58
Speaker 1: That's right. So it's going to be juiced. I'm not
37:00
Speaker 1: saying that, but it is absolutely an advantage for the
37:04
Speaker 1: visiting team, 11 a.m. When am I allowed to talk
37:06
Speaker 1: about weather? I was told yesterday that it's too early.
37:09
Speaker 1: Give me a weather update, because... I've got an outdoor
37:13
Speaker 1: broadcast Tuscaloosa County on Friday night. I think I was
37:17
Speaker 1: texting my crew. I was like, hey. Uh, if I
37:19
Speaker 1: remember this stadium, we're outside broadcast. What are we going
37:22
Speaker 1: to do with the rain? It's supposed to be a monsoon. Oh,
37:24
Speaker 1: it's supposed to rain. Oh, so Easter or Easter Saturday,
37:28
Speaker 1: you've got a 91% chance of thunderstorms for Starkville. 11 AM. Uh, well,
37:33
Speaker 1: I don't have times yet. I mean, you know, it's
37:35
Speaker 1: probably a little too early to go hour by hour.
37:37
Speaker 1: I could do that. Maybe Thursday for you. If you're
37:38
Speaker 1: going to be a meteorologist, meteorologists are so spot on.
37:42
Speaker 1: No 1103 is when it's going to start there. It's
37:44
Speaker 1: got field. Um, But, I mean... It's an all-day rain event,
37:48
Speaker 1: it looks like. It looks like. I mean, Saturday, October 3rd,
37:50
Speaker 1: showers and thunderstorms, winds light variable, chance of rain 90%. Yeah,
37:54
Speaker 1: wind and rain are the great equalizers. Rainfall near half
37:58
Speaker 1: an inch at night, it says. Always about size with you. Alabama,
38:03
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, 11... You.
38:04
Speaker 4: Really had to peek at it.
38:05
Speaker 1: Shut up. Yeah, Alabama, Mississippi State, 11 a.m. coming up. So,
38:09
Speaker 1: we're about... I think it's next week. Brooks, check the
38:14
Speaker 1: official release date on the Saban documentary. Six episodes, ESPN platform.
38:20
Speaker 1: October 8th. So what is that? That's next week, right? Yes,
38:23
Speaker 1: it is.
38:23
Speaker 4: Next Thursday.
38:24
Speaker 1: Are you all in on this documentary?
38:27
Speaker 2: I wish it was off-season. I'm probably not all. I mean,
38:30
Speaker 2: I'll watch it 100%. I saw a little bit of
38:32
Speaker 2: the interview with Mike Greenberg this morning on Get Up.
38:36
Speaker 2: I will definitely watch it. They're billing it as the
38:38
Speaker 2: best since the last dance. The best produced product ESPN
38:43
Speaker 2: has rolled out since the last dance. That's hard to tell.
38:46
Speaker 2: So I will definitely watch it.
38:47
Speaker 1: Here's why I'm all in. I saw Saban being interviewed.
38:51
Speaker 1: I think it was with Rich Eisen yesterday. He says
38:56
Speaker 1: that he didn't even know this was happening. That Alabama's
39:01
Speaker 1: video team were archiving a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that
39:08
Speaker 1: has never been released. When they realized that probably in
39:12
Speaker 1: 2011 or 2012 that they've got one of the greatest
39:15
Speaker 1: coaches of all time, they started archiving never-been-released stuff that
39:22
Speaker 1: is going to be seen in this documentary. And Zabin
39:25
Speaker 1: says one of them, I didn't even know we had
39:27
Speaker 1: cameras in there, they've got video of him telling Tua
39:30
Speaker 1: he's starting the second half of the national championship game.
39:33
Speaker 1: They've got the audio and the video, and it'll be
39:35
Speaker 1: in the documentary. I got chills. Jimmy Bama. I'm just saying.
39:42
Speaker 1: So who gets paid on this thing?
39:43
Speaker 2: Because what I was thinking is like Nostradamus gave him
39:46
Speaker 2: a tip off. In 10 years, we're going to have NIL.
39:49
Speaker 2: This will be a good way to hold a little
39:51
Speaker 2: leverage over ESPN. I wonder how much Saban's getting. I
39:54
Speaker 2: wonder how much Alabama's getting.
39:55
Speaker 1: I imagine Saban's a producer in this, wouldn't you imagine?
39:58
Speaker 1: It's got to be. I don't know about Alabama, but
40:00
Speaker 1: it's their video.
40:02
Speaker 2: But I heard him talking about that a little bit.
40:04
Speaker 2: I didn't allow media access like people really wanted, but
40:09
Speaker 2: we had people that were archiving everything the entire time.
40:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, that blows me away that I mean, in hindsight,
40:15
Speaker 1: one of the biggest decisions, one of the biggest moments
40:17
Speaker 1: of college football history. I mean, literally a halftime quarterback
40:20
Speaker 1: change changed the national champion. There's zero chance they win
40:24
Speaker 1: the championship with Jalen Hurts quarterbacking the second half. Zero chance. So,
40:27
Speaker 1: I mean, a halftime change changed the eventual national champion.
40:31
Speaker 1: And we are just now finding out that there was
40:33
Speaker 1: video of that. It's crazy. But don't you, I mean,
40:36
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is that's been a legendary coach,
40:38
Speaker 1: you know, pick Woody Hayes or Bear Bryant or General
40:42
Speaker 1: Nealon or just you run through all the greats. To
40:45
Speaker 1: be able to have access to footage you've never seen
40:47
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, there's meetings, there's locker room stuff that
40:51
Speaker 1: you've never seen. I was very tepid on this whole thing.
40:56
Speaker 1: I was like, eh, it's another Saban documentary. I saw
41:00
Speaker 1: the football life on NFL Network, and it was very
41:02
Speaker 1: interesting to me. But I was like, how much more
41:05
Speaker 1: of this? What's it going to be that I don't
41:08
Speaker 1: know already because I've covered it? I covered him for
41:10
Speaker 1: 17 years. But when you give me access that I
41:13
Speaker 1: didn't have inside the locker room, oh, let's go.
41:15
Speaker 2: And they said one episode is like how he completely
41:19
Speaker 2: changed philosophy and went to process once he was in
41:22
Speaker 2: East Lansing.
41:22
Speaker 1: Yeah.
41:23
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't good enough. He was only about the wins,
41:25
Speaker 2: and then he started it. What is the journey to
41:27
Speaker 2: the wins? So they say that is like maybe the
41:30
Speaker 2: most fascinating episode. So I'll definitely check it out.
41:32
Speaker 1: I saw the piece, the part they included in game
41:34
Speaker 1: day about his return to Baton Rouge that JP was
41:37
Speaker 1: such a big part of. That's right.
41:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
41:38
Speaker 1: That was very well done. I watched that. I was like, OK,
41:40
Speaker 1: if the whole thing's like that, this will be very good.
41:43
Speaker 1: But see that one, I was like, OK, that was
41:45
Speaker 1: well done. Yeah. But I sort of knew that. Yeah.
41:48
Speaker 1: But I mean, you're going to give me the moment.
41:50
Speaker 1: When he's telling Jalen, then Jalen, you're out too.
41:53
Speaker 2: Oh, no, no, no.
41:53
Speaker 1: I agree 100%. Oh, my goodness. But here's what jumped
41:55
Speaker 1: out at me about the part about the return to LSU. First,
41:58
Speaker 1: Julio Jones is in there. They got Julio to sit
42:02
Speaker 1: down and do this. Kirby Smart is in there talking
42:04
Speaker 1: about it. Kirby was like, we're all saying, don't sit
42:06
Speaker 1: next to Nick on the bus. Don't walk next to Nick.
42:08
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah. I mean, Kirby is on there. So
42:10
Speaker 1: the people that sat down for this– It's pretty crazy.
42:14
Speaker 1: Julio cries in his interview. Yeah. I mean, so it's
42:16
Speaker 1: pretty crazy some of the people they got to sit
42:18
Speaker 1: down for this, obviously. I'm all in.
42:20
Speaker 8: The thing I was thinking about through all of this,
42:22
Speaker 8: if you'll go back and remember, Monty Burke wrote a
42:24
Speaker 8: biography book about Nick Saban. I don't know if you
42:27
Speaker 8: guys remember Nick Saban getting pretty pissed off about the
42:31
Speaker 8: fact that the book was kind of written without his consent,
42:34
Speaker 8: without his input.
42:35
Speaker 1: I do remember that now, yes.
42:37
Speaker 8: And I'm sitting here thinking, you know, part of this–
42:40
Speaker 8: biography is he is or this documentary is he being
42:44
Speaker 8: able to tell this story the way he wants to
42:46
Speaker 8: tell it and that's what he said in his take
42:49
Speaker 8: at the time about this biography been being written about
42:52
Speaker 8: him was when I'm ready to tell my story I'm
42:54
Speaker 8: going to tell.
42:54
Speaker 1: It that's why when the first credits roll it's going
42:56
Speaker 1: to say executive producer Nick Saban yeah yeah I'm all
42:59
Speaker 1: in I can't wait I'm like you guys I wish
43:02
Speaker 1: it was June uh and not right now but I'm
43:05
Speaker 1: all in I'll uh I'll dive in and enjoy it.
43:09
Speaker 2: I know what they're trying to do. They're trying to
43:10
Speaker 2: capitalize on football season. But for the football diehards, you're
43:15
Speaker 2: going to get them more out of season. And I
43:17
Speaker 2: think you would get more of the casual fan out
43:19
Speaker 2: of season. Yeah.
43:21
Speaker 1: It's being released the week of the Alabama-Georgia game. Georgia-Alabama
43:24
Speaker 1: game in Tuscaloosa. Am I right about that? Next week? Yeah.
43:28
Speaker 8: It's coming out on Thursday night. I don't know if
43:30
Speaker 8: it's going to come. I think they're dripping it out, though, right?
43:32
Speaker 8: That's only the first two episodes.
43:34
Speaker 4: All six episodes dropped.
43:36
Speaker 1: Next Thursday. Wow, okay. Yeah, so you'll get heavy promotion
43:39
Speaker 1: on game day, probably in Tuscaloosa, and the big broadcast
43:45
Speaker 1: on ABC at Saban Field, the Saban documentary. Do you
43:48
Speaker 1: think even in Tuscaloosa, if Alabama loses this week? Oh, no, no.
43:52
Speaker 1: Where else will they go? Not necessarily. I haven't looked ahead,
43:54
Speaker 1: but if Alabama wins, Georgia wins. You've got two unbeaten teams.
43:58
Speaker 1: I still think they're there either way.
44:00
Speaker 5: Yeah.
44:01
Speaker 7: I couldn't find if Saban was actually a producer on this,
44:05
Speaker 7: but I have seen that this is from the same
44:08
Speaker 7: production company that made The Last Dance, the Christopher Reeve
44:12
Speaker 7: documentary that came out a few years back, as well
44:16
Speaker 7: as the Dude Perfect documentary, if that is.
44:20
Speaker 1: The same category. Well, you had me at The Last Dance.
44:22
Speaker 1: You could have stopped right there.
44:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, I probably should have.
44:24
Speaker 1: All right, that's our viewing menu brought to you. Thank you, Tyler.
44:29
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll jump into some more college football.
44:33
Speaker 1: The hunted. How do you handle being the hunted? Then
44:36
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44:39
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44:43
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44:46
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44:50
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44:53
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44:57
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45:01
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45:05
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45:10
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45:12
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45:14
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45:14
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45:15
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45:17
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45:18
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45:18
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45:20
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45:22
Speaker 4: If I'm this guy, I'm framing that somewhere in my house.
45:25
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45:28
Speaker 1: That is such a bright red shirt. Dad, how long
45:31
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45:33
Speaker 1: how long I've been a Wisconsin fan. Yeah, and is
45:35
Speaker 1: nobody talking to him? It looks like he's standing in
45:38
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45:40
Speaker 1: it might be AI. Well, it's not AI. You know
45:42
Speaker 1: what I think it is? What? I think he told
45:45
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45:47
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45:49
Speaker 4: He's standing.
45:49
Speaker 1: I'll go stand there and y'all video it real quick.
45:51
Speaker 1: That's me being cynical again. Everything I see now, I
45:54
Speaker 1: think it's set up for video.
45:55
Speaker 4: I don't think that's cynical. I think that's what happened.
45:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's legitimate.
45:58
Speaker 4: He's standing in the aisle.
45:59
Speaker 1: It just now dawned on me he doesn't have a seat.
46:01
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46:04
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47:11
Speaker 1: After Jeff Collins in our next segment after this one,
47:14
Speaker 1: we'll do upset alerts. So if talking about any of
47:16
Speaker 1: these teams, infringe on your upset alert. Please hold your
47:21
Speaker 1: cards tight. Close to your vest. And don't let it out.
47:24
Speaker 3: Okay.
47:24
Speaker 1: Don't let it out. I've got six teams that are
47:28
Speaker 1: the hunted now, in my opinion. Herbstreit brought this up
47:32
Speaker 1: about Florida. Herbstreit was like, can Florida handle being the
47:39
Speaker 1: hunted now? Here's John Summerall. After the game on Saturday,
47:44
Speaker 1: still full of piss and vinegar, man. I love this
47:47
Speaker 1: comment from the Florida head coach. Yeah. Coach, you talked
47:51
Speaker 1: about awaking in the beast and why you're not a
47:54
Speaker 1: finished product. Do you feel like it's at least stirring
47:57
Speaker 1: a little bit at this point?
47:58
Speaker 6: It's not sleep, but it ain't fully awake yet. You know,
48:01
Speaker 6: like it's, it's, it's being kind of stirred up a
48:04
Speaker 6: little bit. So we're, we're going to get there, but yeah, it's,
48:07
Speaker 6: it's coming. Like I promised, I didn't come here for
48:09
Speaker 6: us to be average and we're going to work tire,
48:12
Speaker 6: tirelessly coaches, players, everybody to put a product on the field.
48:16
Speaker 6: We can all be proud of. And you know, I,
48:19
Speaker 6: we had, I will say this. We had some recruits
48:22
Speaker 6: here this weekend. I mean, the recruiting list that we
48:26
Speaker 6: get a lot of those guys to say, yes, we're
48:29
Speaker 6: going to wake the B-step real fast. So we're going
48:32
Speaker 6: to wake it up right now with the guys we got.
48:33
Speaker 6: I love the guys we got, but we still have
48:36
Speaker 6: to reinforce our roster, the depth of our roster, and
48:40
Speaker 6: to look like maybe the top, top, top teams in
48:42
Speaker 6: the country. We still aren't maybe just depth where we
48:46
Speaker 6: can roll out the next guy, and it's like there's
48:49
Speaker 6: very little drop-off.
48:51
Speaker 1: They're building something at Florida. Florida is one of those teams.
48:54
Speaker 1: I've got six. I'll run through them. Talk about them
48:57
Speaker 1: handling being the hunted. It is different now for John
49:00
Speaker 1: Summerall in Florida. Where are they? They're up to number
49:02
Speaker 1: eight in the country in the polls, if you put
49:05
Speaker 1: any value in that. And all of a sudden, they're
49:07
Speaker 1: the talk of college football. Well, they are. Here they come.
49:09
Speaker 2: But I still think they were a big talking point
49:11
Speaker 2: last week because a lot of people were scratching their heads.
49:13
Speaker 2: How is Florida three and a half point favorite, which
49:16
Speaker 2: got up to four over this Ole Miss team that's
49:19
Speaker 2: got the best resume in all of college football? So
49:21
Speaker 2: I think that did benefit that Florida team last week
49:24
Speaker 2: because you saw early on is efficient as that offense
49:27
Speaker 2: has been. Aaron Philo missed some pretty easy throws. But
49:30
Speaker 2: the great news is you've got two really good running
49:32
Speaker 2: backs that he can settle down with. And I thought
49:35
Speaker 2: their defense overall, look, I know it was still a
49:38
Speaker 2: pretty big number. But to hold Trinidad Chambliss to that,
49:41
Speaker 2: there was improvement with that defense.
49:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. I mean, that's been his concern.
49:45
Speaker 1: He voiced concern after Florida Atlantic. He voiced concern after
49:49
Speaker 1: the Auburn game. He voiced concern, you know, Campbell was
49:51
Speaker 1: kind of a throwaway game. But I do think that's
49:53
Speaker 1: probably the best their defense has played in a real
49:56
Speaker 1: game was Saturday. I mean, look, I love everything the
50:01
Speaker 1: guy says. We love John Summerall on this show. We
50:02
Speaker 1: don't make any apologies about it. And I love the
50:04
Speaker 1: fact that he says, we did not come here to
50:06
Speaker 1: be average. We're going to be great. I love that attitude.
50:10
Speaker 1: But every step of the way, he's tried to tamp
50:12
Speaker 1: down expectations. When everybody went nuts after Florida Atlantic, he's like,
50:16
Speaker 1: we got a long way to go. Like, I know
50:18
Speaker 1: this looked nice and everybody got excited. Our defense is
50:21
Speaker 1: a long way off after the Auburn game. He tried
50:25
Speaker 1: to tamp down expectations. That's going to become increasingly difficult because,
50:28
Speaker 1: as you pointed, now they're in the top 10. They're
50:30
Speaker 1: a top 10 team now, and they're sneaking up on nobody.
50:33
Speaker 1: They are the hunted now. A little bit for BYU now.
50:37
Speaker 1: BYU number 10 in the AP poll, and all of
50:40
Speaker 1: a sudden, more people are talking about BYU than they're
50:44
Speaker 1: talking about Utah, and then they're talking about Texas Tech.
50:47
Speaker 1: That's a little bit of a flip. of the national conversation. Well,
50:51
Speaker 1: a couple of things.
50:51
Speaker 2: Texas Tech hasn't looked good. The eye test, they haven't
50:54
Speaker 2: passed it yet. They haven't lost a game, but they
50:56
Speaker 2: still haven't looked great. And BYU, give Kalani Satake a
51:00
Speaker 2: lot of credit. I know there were people out there
51:02
Speaker 2: talking about Duke. I know it got brought up on
51:04
Speaker 2: the show last week. We talked about it a little
51:06
Speaker 2: bit yesterday. Your defending ACC champion is sitting there at 4-0,
51:09
Speaker 2: and nobody's talking about Duke. BYU's won 17 of the
51:12
Speaker 2: last 19 games.
51:13
Speaker 1: How about that? And both those losses to Texas Tech.
51:17
Speaker 8: Is that right?
51:19
Speaker 1: Yes. I think so. Both losses to Texas Tech.
51:21
Speaker 6: Yeah.
51:21
Speaker 1: It's just the team nobody ever talks about. Nobody.
51:24
Speaker 2: Nobody talks about the Big 12.
51:26
Speaker 1: But here comes BYU. They're now on the national radar.
51:30
Speaker 1: I want to see what happens to Oklahoma State now
51:34
Speaker 1: in that same conference because everybody's talking Oklahoma State now
51:38
Speaker 1: too and They still lost to Tulsa. Yeah, I know
51:40
Speaker 1: we talked about them a little bit. I started seeing
51:43
Speaker 1: people say, hey, this could be a sneaky good team.
51:44
Speaker 1: This could be a sneaky good team. This could be
51:46
Speaker 1: a sneaky good team. And then they lost to Tulsa.
51:47
Speaker 1: And everybody's like, OK, I guess we misjudged that. But boom,
51:50
Speaker 1: since then, it's been a different football team.
51:53
Speaker 2: I can't believe with the way Arkansas handled Tulsa that
51:56
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State lost that game and You know, I brought
51:58
Speaker 2: it up a couple of times after that week that
52:01
Speaker 2: Jacob Sexton, their left tackle they lost, kind of threw
52:04
Speaker 2: everything out of rhythm. If you went back and played
52:06
Speaker 2: that game, I believe they'd win it by 35-plus. I
52:09
Speaker 2: know that sounds crazy.
52:10
Speaker 1: No, no, no. It makes sense.
52:11
Speaker 2: But, you know, here's going to be the problem for
52:12
Speaker 2: Oak State. I wonder if they get all the way–
52:14
Speaker 2: and this is very doable. When you start to look
52:17
Speaker 2: at the schedule, I mean, they've got some difficult games
52:19
Speaker 2: at Houston. They host Texas Tech. They've got to go
52:22
Speaker 2: to Kansas State, to Arizona State, all winnable games– If
52:26
Speaker 2: they were to win out 11-1, play for the Big
52:29
Speaker 2: 12 championship, and lose that game, that Tulsa loss week one.
52:33
Speaker 2: If the committee's smart, you look back and you're like.
52:37
Speaker 1: That was week one. Week one, new coach. Everything.
52:41
Speaker 2: But I don't think people would put that into account.
52:43
Speaker 2: I think they'd probably be out.
52:44
Speaker 1: They'd probably be out. Now, I did see Andy Staples
52:46
Speaker 1: had them, Alabama hosting Oklahoma State. It was just weird
52:50
Speaker 1: to see it. in his projected 12-team playoff coming out
52:53
Speaker 1: of the weekend. I saw it Sunday, Andy Staples, Alabama
52:56
Speaker 1: hosting Oak State.
52:57
Speaker 2: Do you think an 11-2 Oak State that has lost
52:59
Speaker 2: a Big 12 championship could possibly trump one of these
53:02
Speaker 2: three lost teams we've talked about?
53:04
Speaker 1: That Tulsa loss is going to be a weight. That's
53:07
Speaker 1: going to be a weight.
53:07
Speaker 2: But it is going to be interesting with Mestemaker. All
53:10
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they've got Caleb Hawkins and Eric Morris.
53:13
Speaker 2: They're the Big 12 team nobody wants to face right now.
53:15
Speaker 2: They've got names that people are talking about, so there
53:17
Speaker 2: is a buzzer on this program. I'll tell you where
53:19
Speaker 2: it would really help. if Oregon somehow can find their
53:23
Speaker 2: way back into the national picture.
53:24
Speaker 1: That's right. That's going to be the feather in the
53:26
Speaker 1: cap that they have. One other, you can put Mississippi
53:30
Speaker 1: State wherever you want to be. Everybody's talking about them.
53:32
Speaker 1: They've got to handle that pressure this week. Kentucky, they're
53:36
Speaker 1: ranked now. They've got to handle the pressure. But you
53:38
Speaker 1: guys have talked about them on Friday. You talked about
53:41
Speaker 1: them Monday. You talked about them today already. all of
53:45
Speaker 1: a sudden UCLA is getting a little bit of a
53:48
Speaker 1: target on their back.
53:49
Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was going to be last week
53:52
Speaker 2: against Maryland. I just felt like, you know, it's a
53:54
Speaker 2: really good story, but they've beaten Cal, San Diego State,
53:56
Speaker 2: and Purdue.
53:57
Speaker 1: It was only 54-3.
53:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, now they're flying all the way 2,000 miles to
54:01
Speaker 2: College Park, and this is going to be a game
54:03
Speaker 2: they lose. They've got a breather this week, and then
54:05
Speaker 2: they go to Oregon.
54:07
Speaker 1: And they could get Oregon without Dante Moore. Now, I
54:09
Speaker 1: don't know if Dylan Rayola can keep this up, Lance.
54:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. But after that, let's just even
54:14
Speaker 2: say they lose that game and they're 4-1. They're hosting Wisconsin.
54:17
Speaker 2: They're hosting Michigan State. They're hosting Nevada. They go to Minnesota.
54:19
Speaker 2: They're hosting Illinois. They go to an offensively challenged Michigan,
54:23
Speaker 2: and then they host USC. I'm not going to be
54:25
Speaker 2: surprised at all if they win nine games this year.
54:28
Speaker 1: There's a 10-2 in that schedule, by the way. And
54:30
Speaker 1: the Big Ten will be searching for a fourth team.
54:33
Speaker 1: By the time we get to the end, that could
54:35
Speaker 1: be UCLA. We'll talk to Jeff Collins. Great breakdown about
54:38
Speaker 1: Alabama and some other teams. We'll tell you where you
54:41
Speaker 1: can get Jeff Collins' content when we come back on
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