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INTERVIEW: Glasses Malone On Street Ethics, Jada & Will, Men Marrying Hoes + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, everybody in Steve j n V. Charlamagne, the guy.
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  Speaker 2: We are the breakfast Club. We got a special guest
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  Speaker 2: in the building, my guy Classes Malone's welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Back brother crying, laughing, Man.
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  Speaker 3: What happens?
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  Speaker 4: You're eventful dog. You just no this trip to every
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  Speaker 4: time I come to New York, the trip being ventful. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: my toro caught a flat you renal, Yeah, my toro, right, so.
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  Speaker 2: It's not big. It's not big here, but his toro
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  Speaker 2: is big everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, so we got here soon as we
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  Speaker 4: got off the airplane. Right, we got off of Guardian,
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  Speaker 4: So we get to Touro pick up the car. The
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  Speaker 4: car is sketchy.
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  Speaker 1: Because the man didn't change it in the last minute.
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  Speaker 4: So he went from a twenty twenty camera to a
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  Speaker 4: twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: A laundra. Okay, you know you notice a different. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how to turn the lights on.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't used to get in the cars that the
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  Speaker 4: lights don't automatically come on at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Soon as we get we leaving, we want the.
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  Speaker 4: Queens to eat to that's this little barbecue spot. The
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  Speaker 4: police pull us over, have us for thirty minutes, damn.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm just thinking this whole trip, it's just been crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, soon as we get pulled over, right, the
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  Speaker 4: man asking us all kinds of questions, like what y'all
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  Speaker 4: doing in New York. I was like, man, I'm come
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  Speaker 4: to do some press and this, that and the third.
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  Speaker 4: So were telling him we come from the airport. I
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  Speaker 4: showed the man the ticket and everything, and the man
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  Speaker 4: just talking to me cousin. I'm like, yeah, man, we
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  Speaker 4: just came in. He's like, you know, y'all got some
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  Speaker 4: in the luggage, nigga, we had to be the greatest
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  Speaker 4: international smugglers in the world to get.
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  Speaker 1: It from the airport.
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  Speaker 4: So we get there, We finally eat bn we go
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  Speaker 4: to the Airbnb, so they.
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  Speaker 2: Let y'all go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but took thirty minutes. The lights wasn't known in
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  Speaker 1: the car. Yeah, but it was just weird.
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  Speaker 4: Then the next day we're going to meet up with
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  Speaker 4: a hommy, my homeboy, Trey that writing stuff for the
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  Speaker 4: Athletic in New York Times, her riding for sports and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Trey Edwards the toro catch a flat when we coming
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  Speaker 4: through the Lincoln Town so then we stuck on fifty fifth.
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  Speaker 1: And what's that fifty fifth and like.
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  Speaker 4: Probably like fifth Avenue just parked on the street in
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  Speaker 4: front of the dunkin Donuts for like four hours.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they were a sign to get some donuts.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 4: We even got some steak okay, And then I went
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  Speaker 4: to the steakhouse. Then I went to my favor, my
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  Speaker 4: favorite steakhouse in New York. Uh Del Friscos. They wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: let U see.
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  Speaker 2: What sweats up yeah, twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn, so we can't eve that my favorite.
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  Speaker 4: So we go to another steakhouse and it was cool,
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  Speaker 4: and we waited on the people.
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  Speaker 1: From to row.
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  Speaker 4: So we reported the old the whole ship, and they
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  Speaker 4: sent the road side assistance. And by the time the
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  Speaker 4: roadside systems have come, it's eight hours. The tire shop
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  Speaker 4: is two blocks.
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  Speaker 5: You could have just drove two blocks and gotta fix yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Well not on the flat t yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now they could have ran on now.
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  Speaker 4: So then I didn't know the address changed. It's just
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  Speaker 4: been an eventful New York.
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  Speaker 5: But you went to the old ad just this morning, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's what.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Was it boarded up?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird. You couldn't get in.
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  Speaker 4: It had a weird door to the lobby, and men
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  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, we ain't you know they left in January.
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  Speaker 6: Oh we've been going. We've been Yeah, I don't know
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  Speaker 6: why to produce it. Didn't tell you that it's all good.
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  Speaker 1: It's just been one of them New York trip here
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  Speaker 1: the bullshit. Hey man, it's all good that I got. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: there you go.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, why are you still doing physical CDs? I already
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: bought tennedy.
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  Speaker 4: I have it for you right now. Okay, hold up,
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  Speaker 4: I got something for you every special cause at this
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  Speaker 4: right here. Yeah, that's dope. Why are you still doing this?
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  Speaker 4: Why I still see these so as an independent? Because
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  Speaker 4: right you sell four thousand copies. I sell mine's autograph
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  Speaker 4: at twenty five dollars. That's how you do your business.
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  Speaker 4: M simple as that. Everything else is streaming is good,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But that's a royalty. You
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  Speaker 4: still got to sell music. My music good enough, though.
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  Speaker 4: I really believe my shit good enough to sell. So
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  Speaker 4: I'll be selling this though.
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  Speaker 3: And it's called cancel these nuts.
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  Speaker 6: To explain that title, it's pretty it's pretty pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean you talk to me enough
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  Speaker 1: to know I don't really give.
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  Speaker 4: I really just I'm honest with what I think, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm not really intimidated. I feel like the industry, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the h the powers that be didn't make me, so
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  Speaker 4: they can't break me, and they can't take what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just saying all the stuff I want to say.
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  Speaker 3: I think canceled coaches on this last legs anyway.
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  Speaker 6: Actually, I actually think it's over because I think people
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  Speaker 6: finally realize that it's all a circular firing squad.
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  Speaker 1: So you may.
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  Speaker 6: Shoot at that person today, but then it's gonna come
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  Speaker 6: around in your turn eventually.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, so you feel like it's only be because it was,
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  Speaker 4: like I don't want nobody to remember.
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  Speaker 6: I think everybody's like, I don't want to be a hypocrit.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to contradict myself. I know I probably
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  Speaker 6: got some bullshit that people could bring up to and
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  Speaker 6: if you hold everybody to the same standard, it's only
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  Speaker 6: a matter of time before it's either you are somebody
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  Speaker 6: you really really uck with that they calling to get canceled.
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  Speaker 6: So what side you're gonna be on?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we definitely in this special where I think everything
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  Speaker 4: is starting to be just obviously true, Like you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I remember five years ago, Jada and Will was goals.
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  Speaker 4: That shit spoiled like milk, nobody know what to do,
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  Speaker 4: So I think that's a coach is the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: I think all the ideas was never none permanent anyway.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I kind of don't really get on trends
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 6: But I think what you're saying is, you know, everybody
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  Speaker 6: had this vision of perfection, whether it was Jad and Will,
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  Speaker 6: they had a vision of perfection, whether it's the way
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  Speaker 6: we're supposed to move in society, it's a vision of perfection.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing's perfect.
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  Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying, Like, how do we start
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  Speaker 4: at that place from it? Like, how do we get
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  Speaker 4: started with that? I was just having this whole conversation
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  Speaker 4: about the same thing, like there's no way possible, especially
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  Speaker 4: women chase that specific thing perfection, and it's no way possible.
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  Speaker 1: So even setting somebody else as a.
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  Speaker 4: Goal is ridiculous. I was listening to this shit jay
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  Speaker 4: Z was saying. He was like five hundred thousand. He
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  Speaker 4: was like, y'all just take the five hundred thousand. Jay
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  Speaker 4: Z said that about jay Z for the five hundred
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  Speaker 4: thousand yep, and I was like, damn, well, the truth
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  Speaker 4: is coming.
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  Speaker 1: It's like my time. It's good time to be a
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  Speaker 1: live for me. You know what I mean. It's honest.
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  Speaker 5: Niggas tell me the truth.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: But at that time, the world wasn't really like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: accepting to the truth. Last time I was here, I
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  Speaker 4: was niggas was threatening in my life over a song.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you did Tupac mus die So.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, why are you mad at me
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  Speaker 1: for telling the truth? It was enough.
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  Speaker 4: The nigga that made the song. He made a song
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  Speaker 4: that was like some kind of crazy Tupac conspiracy idea
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  Speaker 4: about soul and the Illuminati and shit. And I remember
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  Speaker 4: watching this interview. He was like, man, this guy stole
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  Speaker 4: my song. And I was like, I never heard of it.
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  Speaker 4: And in the interview he's like, yeah, you know, well
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  Speaker 4: if glasses you know in his story that don't even
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  Speaker 4: make sense. Whoever heard a story like that? I bet
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  Speaker 4: you that nigga somewhere looking like oh shit.
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  Speaker 6: But you had you You had first hand knowledge of
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  Speaker 6: the situation.
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  Speaker 4: Not not not only just firsthand knowledge, it was just
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  Speaker 4: common knowledge amongst everybody in the streets and the like.
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  Speaker 1: We all knew in real time what was going on.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you shouldn't have put it in a song. You
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  Speaker 6: should have sat down with Black TV and told the story.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Heavy.
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  Speaker 5: Situation.
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  Speaker 1: Keevy is crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 4: I'm praying for him, you know what I mean. He
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  Speaker 4: in a tough situation. It's gonna be tough as a motherfucker,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You gotta fight a case.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm sure you're gonna get a turny, good representation.
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  Speaker 4: And I doubt that a lot of the interviews is
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  Speaker 4: something they could really use. I'm interested to see the discovery,
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  Speaker 4: to see what they really have. As far as ever
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  Speaker 4: you booking those interviews, Yeah, I need to see it.
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  Speaker 1: Ye gotta make that.
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  Speaker 3: One last that they even reached out to him.
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  Speaker 1: Was on the news. He was like, yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: my interviews.
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  Speaker 4: I was like this, nigga, is you need as a
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  Speaker 4: as a journalist?
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  Speaker 5: Sure?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, Now, why hasn't been eight years since a Glasshouse two?
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  Speaker 6: Last House two is your last album?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Same same mission. Man.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: When I first started figuring all this stuff out, I
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  Speaker 4: was learning hip hop. Last time I saw y'all you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean. Before the last time, I was
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  Speaker 4: just figuring it all out, same thing, figuring it all
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  Speaker 4: out and taking my time getting back into the space
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  Speaker 4: to make sure I can make something that represented where
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  Speaker 4: we was at as far as the getto in general.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so many.
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  Speaker 4: Where street urban culture at as a whole is in
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  Speaker 4: such a funky place to where like you could like
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  Speaker 4: a rapper dog and he'll be your guy, he'd be busting,
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  Speaker 4: he got all the cuts. But then he'll do some
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  Speaker 4: whole ass ship and then you'll be stuck with it
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  Speaker 4: some ship that don't represent you, like you might like
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  Speaker 4: this rapper right and then cuz gonna just wear some
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  Speaker 4: figure out polis.
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  Speaker 6: Stop looking for perfection the same way we can't look
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  Speaker 6: for perfection and Jayden will or people in your street ship,
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  Speaker 6: you can't look for perfection.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that wh not because that's not
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  Speaker 1: cool to you.
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  Speaker 6: To me first of all, you know, I hate the
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  Speaker 6: street conversation because I think the street ship is silly.
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  Speaker 3: But if you the ultimate.
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  Speaker 1: Street that's not what you all your always.
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  Speaker 3: You got it, you got it a lot, you got
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  Speaker 3: paint a fingernails.
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  Speaker 5: Does that make you soft.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody who got all the cocaine will paint their fingernails.
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  Speaker 5: Why that's.
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  Speaker 4: That's not what If you like this rapper right, he
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  Speaker 4: wearing a dress, or if you like this rapper, he
• 8:48
  Speaker 4: wearing a purse, it's like they know it, y'all. Don't
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  Speaker 4: really believe in your heart that it's something going to
• 8:54
  Speaker 4: the street dudes will wear dresses and the street street
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  Speaker 4: dudes that wear dresses.
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: Ever, this new generation different.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the generation glasses. You don't see people men
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  Speaker 2: wearing persons all the time. No, only niggas that follow
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  Speaker 2: rap I don't. I've never been to a ghetto niggas
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  Speaker 2: was wearing persons. You can't go to one borough, you
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  Speaker 2: can't go to Month's Corner even in the country or
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: any ghetto, and niggas is walking around with persons.
• 9:15
  Speaker 6: Where is this happening into the hood in a long time.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't know what they're doing. But they had
• 9:21
  Speaker 6: the person and they had a glock in there ready
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  Speaker 6: to bust.
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: They would be a girl with a gun. Girls got guns.
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  Speaker 3: Little girls can't be street.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: Yes they are, but it's a girl.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: Look, you gotta think eventually that it's a reason they
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: doing it. This ain't as simple as I just wanted,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I just felt I wanted, come on, man, No,
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  Speaker 4: no man wakes up wanting to just wear a purse.
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  Speaker 1: That is, we've never saw a person like me. That's nice.
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  Speaker 1: I want that. That don't even connect.
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  Speaker 4: So again we be in these weird spaces where we
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: just again still kind of just be feline there. I
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: can't go to no ghetto and every man is walking
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  Speaker 4: around with a purse. It's still gonna be a selective
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: few who trying to go against the grain based off
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  Speaker 4: of what they saw somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: What does the street dude in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 4: Anybody that grew up in street urban culture. It don't
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  Speaker 4: mean you have to be a criminal. It's just it
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  Speaker 4: raised you. It's you know, really, religion and street ethics
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  Speaker 4: are the only thing that create morality. Regular people don't
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  Speaker 4: have morals. It's just they go by laws.
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  Speaker 1: They don't really have no morals.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think street people have morals anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Of course they do.
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  Speaker 4: If you from the street, you don't have no choice
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  Speaker 4: because you gotta be whatever you say.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna come with accountability.
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  Speaker 6: I get what n be saying I feel like they
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  Speaker 6: used to have a moertain amount of principles. I don't
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  Speaker 6: know if i'll call it more, I would say principles
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  Speaker 6: in the street. I don't know those principles too. I
• 10:45
  Speaker 6: think morals and ethics too, because there's certain things that
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: Right, But again, everything always happened back in the day, right,
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: But it was Also, I think we keep confusing what
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: we're seeing on social media as the streets, and it's not.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's the truth is that that's not the street.
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  Speaker 4: Social media is a completely different place that you can
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  Speaker 4: go and do anything. So when I talk to my
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  Speaker 4: own boys, it's the same thing that I just got
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: this Gucci purse, not one ghetto. I don't care if
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: I called my it's not me.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Know how you feel.
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  Speaker 4: No, listen, that is not true. Nobody is wearing a purse.
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  Speaker 4: Why would a man wear a purse?
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: They got man purses. They call it the one that man.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: A satchel.
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  Speaker 5: Purse.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: It's a satchel.
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  Speaker 3: We'll call it a satchel.
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  Speaker 1: That's not no.
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  Speaker 4: They no, they be wearing purses like designer person or
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: fingernail polish or dresses were telling. It's like telling like
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: we can't even come to snitching.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: This guy is crazy, man, But it seems like it's
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: it seems like it's so normal right now people people
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: accept stuff.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: Why do we act like firsther of all, stinching ain't normal.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, snitch ain't new. I don't know a time
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  Speaker 3: when they happen.
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  Speaker 4: It's normalized now though, it's normal, but it's not. Again,
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: what's going on on the internet. Ain't like hip hop
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  Speaker 4: really used to be a representation of what was going
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: on in the community. At this point, it's far this
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: it's like removed, like, I don't know, it's not the same.
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: I agree, right, people have always snitched, and back in
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: the day, niggas used to have like shame, like you
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: didn't just die for snitching.
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  Speaker 1: You moved off and you realized the street life wasn't
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 4: Some people got killed, some people got beat up and
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  Speaker 4: stitches and all that. But for the most part, you know,
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: people used to just move off. They would just go
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  Speaker 4: off into the yonder and realize get you know, go
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: boy Andre changes Now he ain't Big Dre no more Andre.
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  Speaker 4: He just some regular nigga living his life, working at
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  Speaker 4: the factory. Now, niggas will be in the midst of
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: shit still right then and there. The only thing that's
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: changes niggas don't have shame, ain't no more shame is missing.
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  Speaker 4: So snitching has always happened, right, but it used to
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  Speaker 4: come with accountability. It wouldn't be like in Gunner situation.
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  Speaker 4: He wouldn't be runs motherfucker floorting around like Hey, I'm
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: gonna go do concerts, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: showcase myself.
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  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. He'd be like, all right, let
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: me go sit my eyes down, let me not talk tough.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Obviously this is not cut
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  Speaker 1: out for me.
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  Speaker 4: Now, was like, okay, well, the average human, average everyday
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: person don't really care, so I can still make my money.
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  Speaker 4: So they don't even care about what's going on, like
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: their reputation. They just like, what fucking I'm.
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  Speaker 6: Don't think Gunna getting ad a bad rap because the
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  Speaker 6: person that he allegedly told on hasn't said that and
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: his dad, Thug's dad even said Gunna didn't do anything
• 13:42
  Speaker 6: that would hurt Thug's case.
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: That's just a lie.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: It's just not true.
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: If your whole if the whole premise of your case
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: is built off, if the whole charges you are running
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: a record label, that's a game. And somebody says, yes,
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: it is a gang, it's obvious. It's not even like
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: one of my young homies, mom, but young homie Reil.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: He was like, oh man, you know I need to
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: see paperwork, bro, it's on tape.
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: But it's obvious. It's obvious. They said they said they
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: were a gang in records and stuff.
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: But you have to deny it. That's the point of it.
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: So right, you have to deny it when it's a
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: legal charge. So when he was like, yes, are you
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: saying that wy Sail is the street? Yes, ma'am, that's telling.
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: So Thug's father saying him what Gunna said had nothing
• 14:25
  Speaker 6: to do did not hurt their case in no way.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: It's not. It's not about does it hurt the case.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: If let's say, if you get on the stand and
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: you point somebody out and you tell the truth, but
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: they disregard your testimony, nigga, you still a snitch that
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: don't have nothing to do with what happened to him.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: You Gunner should be walking somewhere doing the walk of
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: shame somewhere sitting off making gospel rap something.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: But didn't everybody in that case do the same thing.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I don't have the video.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: They had plenty of videos.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: Remember, Remember the Gunner video was different because the nigga
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: snuck to get it. That would have never they had video.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't see them. No, I seen the one specifically
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: right here. But the thing is, I don't know none
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: of the rest of them people. And I hope the
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: rest of them people ain't just walking around Atlanta if
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: they told on that. Man, if they they ain't walking
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: around Atlanta like, oh you know, hey, I'm back in
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: the streets stugging.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: So what if thug comes out of thug said he
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: didn't tell.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: On you, I don't give a fuck.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: If Jesus comes down himself and say that is telling,
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: I'm wise enough and smart enough to know exactly what
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: telling is.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: That's telling that. But gun of music still jamming.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not listen, man up.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: If you give a rat a microphone on the New
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: York streets, he might make some dope records.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not knocking it.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: I'm saying he don't even have shame, like nigga make
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: gospel rap.
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: Well, let me ask you a question. So does that
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: mean other rappers of the street rappers.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Should not do songs with him or support him because
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: of who he claims to be and who he is.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Again, so I think a lot.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Of though I'm confused.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Crip first, that was the first problem. That was my
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: first and he was like, yeah, it's crip. He was
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: like neighborhood. But now it's like that look crazy.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: But I don't.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's a I think for most rappers
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: they trying to change their life, so they may not
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: maintain the same ethics. I mean they So everybody got
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: to make their own decision.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't. I wouldn't piss
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: on him if he was on fire.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Damn. I like Gunner, but I ain't in the street.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: So and it's not the same.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Well, and most people that listen to hip hop aren't.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not mad at them. I'm not telling the.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Two shows a lot of show in New York. Yes,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: but why would the average everyday person care about.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Morals street street morals.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Not even street morals. This is something if you was
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: at right now, if we had a job and we
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: we at this job and the motherfucker came and stole
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: something and then somebody told their stuff. You'll be mad
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: at they snitching ass too. This is not what even
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: no matter what they stole. If something like, if you
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: took something and somebody told on you, you're gonna look
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: at that person crazy.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not. I shouldn't have stolen from that person.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: That set that don't change that this person particularly like
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: because I.
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: Stole, I know I did something wrong. I can't be
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: mad at the person for pointing out that I did
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: something wrong.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I did something wrong. Of course you can't if y'all
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: did it together.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: But that's different.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: That's why you can't.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Say that now. But that's different.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: If we stole something together and then he went and
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: told on me like he didn't do it, that's a
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: different way.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: That's what happened. And that's what snitching is all about.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Snitching really simply put, man, it's getting out of control.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: It's when a criminal tells on a crime to avoid
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: accountability for their own crime. There is a lot of
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: other shit we could talk about. We could start breaking
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: down to all the nuances of street but really snitching.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Don't have nothing to do with like thug in or
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah. It's about accountability. Street life in general
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: is more about accountability and masculinity than everything. Being responsible,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: saying what you mean, meaning what you say, standing by
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: what you said. It's accountability. It's not this ignorant kind
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: of concept. It's primitive at times, but it's not ignorant.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: It's all about accountability.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: So okay.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: So with that said, me and you commit a crime together,
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: I'm sitting in myself. I have a revelation all now
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: on a whole myself accountable. So I decided to say, hey, glasses,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: I'm telling on both of us.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: But I did for both of us.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: No no or or Charlamagne Is talked about it before.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: He was driving in the car with his homies. He
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: got pulled over when of his homies had something illegal.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: They had cocaine on them.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Charlomagne didn't know it was in the car, no idea,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Charlomage tells, and I.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: With Wendy Williams, No I didn't tell. I'm in the
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: back seat of.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: The car and said you better tell all this exactly
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: he gave. He handed over his license and registration, and
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: inside the lights of registration he had three grams of cocaine.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't know.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: So I'm talking ship to the police, really cracking jokes, whatever, whatever, please,
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: I put your hand behind you back.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit, what I didn't said? That went
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: too far? We find cocaine. I'm like cocaine? Who had cocaine?
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: And he was The cop was like, whose is it?
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: I said, it's not mine. So let's use the process
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: of elimination. It's one of these two individuals.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, was y'all doing lines nor goal line?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Would y'all go to do lines at night?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I know hadaine?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, so listen. So right, so look, if.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: You not thugging or if you're not in any street life,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: this is this is just simple street life, then it
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: don't have nothing to do with you. And really your
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: partner should be like, this is mine.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: Absolutely right. So wait until we got to the jail
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: to do it, which is too late.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Then he thought about it on the way.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened. Charla was like, either you gonna
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: tell ing Lama, tell him. That's why what I have accountability.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but but if me and my homeboys.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Let's say, if I'm with Joey, Right, if I'm with
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Joey west Side and I know he not thugging, and
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I got a gun, it's gonna be my gun. I'm
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: not gonna let him get in trouble for my gun.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: But that's just being a man. That's all street life
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: is about in general, even whether you're a criminal or not.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: It's just about being a man and standing up for
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: all of the right things.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: You don't never get tired of being in the screeg No, why.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not being anywhere right, Like my my
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: conduct is consistent with the upbringing.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Right. Why would I change my moral code for what?
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Like I walk in the breakfast club or if I
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: walk anyway, what's the point of what? Am I changing
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: my moral cold too? Like the only next thing is
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: like religion, Like whe where else would I go? Like
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to be a regular person. Motherfuckers is
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: the scum of the fucking earth. I mean, like, you
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: don't stand by nothing. You know, people mistreat each other,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: they don't they save mean ship to each other. You
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: could be driving, motherfucker, be like, shut up and call
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: you crazy. The tow truck man that was in uber
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: call a nigga a bitch, like you know what I mean?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: So you're telling me that a man that calls somebody
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: a woman a bitch don't have no morals.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you call no a man, he called another
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: man a bitch.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: If you call a woman a bitch.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know that called a man a bitch. So
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: it was a man hitting the you turn and you
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: know how New York motherfuckerspl and shit. So it was
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: a man in a carriage and here a you turn
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: in front of the tow truck and the motherfucker's like yeah,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: you know you bitch ass motherfucker and you know your
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: your your your driver don't know how to drive. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: it's like see that, Like where come from? You call
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: a man another man a bitch, you better be ready
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: to fight. And I think in regular life, if you
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: hit the motherfucker for calling them a bitch, they'd be like, oh,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: you know, they'll call the police.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't put my hands on you.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: But what about calling a woman a bitch?
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: Because that woman is somebody's sister, somebody's wife, somebody's daughters.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: What if that man want to fight you because you
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: called the woman a bitch.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: That's the point. You gotta take the fed right you squabble, Okay,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: so it's all.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Aboutbody want to squabble though, Like so, so you call
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: that man a bitch, right now, that man comes and
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: it's snuff you. You call police and he gets arrested,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: and now you press charges. There's no morals, That's what
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Why is that no morals?
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: You can't me a bitch? And then when I react
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to you called them a bitch upunt you in the face.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: He puts me in the face you started.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, but you people want action.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: I agree with that, but I mean I still that's
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: still reserve to right to call you agree with you?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Why would you?
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: And see That's what I'm saying with them in that middle,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Like so, like religious people, morally, the goal is to
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: be here.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: The streets is here.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Regular people don't really have no moral they don't have
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: no true sense of accountability.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: I agree with what NB just said, not because of
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: the street shit. And I agree with what you're saying,
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: but not because it's scree just because I like to
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: see people have to deal with the consequences.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Of their action.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: That's what the streets.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: If you punch me in the face, you gotta deal
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: with the consequences of that action.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: But that's regardless of what it is. If I call
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: you a bitch, I gotta deal with that.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: Sure, if you punch me in the face, now you
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: gotta deal with whatever that comes. Great, and it might
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: come with me calling nine one one.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: But nowadays you have to know that if Charlemagne or
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: somebody's calling you a bitch, it's usually a setup, right,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: because they want to set you up to punch you
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: in the face, and then what that They're gonnarest you.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: They're gonna miswork for nine months, they're gonna see you.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: True. I'm just hoping you're not doing that. I'm hoping
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: you don't do that.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: I hope I can get That's the thing, right everybody,
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: I hope they can do some shit and hope nobody
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: not Accountabiley.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: So so when you ask me about do I it's
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: not being in the streets is not like a location, right,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: It's a It's a conduct. It's the way you act.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: It's the way you really is rooted in masculinity and accountability.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: It's being responsible. I can make him you.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Can be a man and you can't and have accountability.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I'll be in the street.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: No.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you say being in the streets that's
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: where you get the sense of accountability from. Obviously, I'm
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: not selling sharm on one hundred and seventeenth Street no more. Right,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: but the conduct still remains the same. I didn't assimilate
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: it into mainstream. I didn't become successful and changed my
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: life and then start okay, well, I'm gonna still enjoy
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Gunner's music even though he don't have no shame and
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: he told on that man like that. Don't change my conduct,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: my cold, my moral, my behavior, the moral compass doesn't change.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: You got a song on the new album called Kanye
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: should have Never married that bitch.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Jesus talk to about that record. What do you mean
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: it's that bade?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Is that really bad? Yes?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: That's bad? Why you call it? This? The mother of
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: a child a business?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Now, if Kanye comes to swings on you that what
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: happens from then that's fair.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: We can line it up.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: It's a fair faith like if he wanted to faith
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: he called me like glass, I need that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: If he snuffs you, knock you down, he worth close
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: to billion.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not soon first off from get up and dust
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: cuts off or he finna win.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Either way, we're fin the fight.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: But the idea of the song was turning the hole
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: into a housewife. I just feel like in today's time
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: his glasses, that's not that bad? Is that really that
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: that we didn't got that far?
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just don't.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see the need to call her
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that not what's the bitch or ho?
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Both? What both classes?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: That's that man's wife, my ex wife.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: Crazy see snooping them back in the day. It wasn't
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: right when they did it, but they never put a
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: name to Why wasn't it right? They never put a
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: name to it, and they didn't label like there was
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: like there was certain views that you come on ge style.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, just you can't put a label.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: So you can't call a whole hole.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Maybe maybe a generalization, but you can't say that person
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: right there as a whole.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Why not if.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: They're a whole, But if they not, they are anymore.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: But we got messed up at it is we started
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: referring to all.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Women as correct. But we all all knew all women
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: wasn't we didn't.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: We didn't say it enough.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: No, No, we knew it, even if nobody else knew it.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: We knew all women wasn't holes. But what's wrong with.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: A girl if she's a hole? To call her a
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: whole anymore? Though?
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: But she's a mom and the housewife?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Now right? A business woman?
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean you could have said Kanye should have
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: married that business woman.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: If you get arrested for a feeling and you go
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: to prison, you get out of jail when you fill
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: out the application when they ask you are you're a feeling?
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Why can't you say I'm not a feeling anymore?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I got parton? What if I got partoned?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, well who partner? Jimmy? The PaperWorks in our chair?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: The paperwork could not change it? Oh my god, no.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: So listen, I didn't No good look, and I'm so serious.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: This is serious part. So we wrote the song right,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: don't You can't turn the hole into our sall? That's
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: why I did the song right. And I just felt
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: like we're in a weird time where people are really trying.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: To wife worse. This is a big movement going on.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of really unstreet and unaccountable things right,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: and it's like people are not accountable, so they're just
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: doing anything. And so when we wrote the song, we
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: wasn't it wasn't even it's not specifically about them. Nobody
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: was even thinking about Kanye or Kim when we wrote
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: the music. We just wrote the music to be honest.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I'm just listening to the song and I'm like, damn,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: you know. The idea of the song was called that
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: bitch right, that bitch belonged to the streets. But I
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: was thinking about it. We're such a time where nobody
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: is actually like, it's hard for people to put a
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: face to an idea because it's so far out of
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: their wheelhouses every day, and I was like, damn, who
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: going through something that proves and validates this idea? And
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Kanye just look at this situation.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: Well, I guess everybody has a pass, is what I
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: would say, men and women.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: But we don't get to say we not that no more.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: But if you go to prison and you get two
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: felonies for the rest of your life, you're a fella.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: That's like saying nobody can evolve. So Malcolm X wasn't
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: always Malcolm Little. I mean, Malcolm Little did stay mackam
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: Little he became Malcolm X.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Totally agree.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: So you can you can definitely evolve and change.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Do we think Kim evolved, Hell yeah, she didn't a
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: hundred percent from ten years ago she did.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: How do we don't know, you know, because we don't
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: know the situation that might have been. Kanye might have
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: been a problem in that relationship. She might have wanted
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to be a housewife.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: The problem was when you first went into that relationship
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: with that lady. It's a lot of stuff going on
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: with women. Man, you gotta be really careful when you
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: just jump out there. And obviously he wasn't listening to
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: the Doctor Dre's album like he should have been. He
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: would have knew that any of them Snoop Dogg's album.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: You can't turn the hole into a housewives. These are
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: simple things, simple truths.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of holes that have been
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: turned into housewives. I actually think.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: Sometimes in a lot of ways, holes make the best
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: housewives because because just like people who've been in the street,
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: they didn't been there, done that, and they don't want
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: to do that no more.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: So they evolve and.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: Now they you would never know there's somebody married to
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: a woman right now and had no idea glasses and
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: them crips was running trains on her and watched in
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: the nineties.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Right now.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: No, I don't know that. No, but it's again. The
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: concept is just really simple. And obviously you see it
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: went down in flames. It went down in flames. It's
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: not again, it's not. I don't want to sound like
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I'm being harsh to Kim.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: Or even but I don't know whose fault it were,
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: but it could have been Kanye's fault that it went down.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Sure, I think that's what you were trying to think.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not blaming her, just a bad idea, Like you
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: got to get somebody that's a little bit more plausible
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: for the job, and I don't think that that was
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: the correct plausible person for the job. Her life was
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: shaved to be something completely different. But again, sometimes like
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: ever since I've been talking about the song, it's been
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: more or less about Kim Kardashian, my like or dislike
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: for Kim Kardashian.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: That's just not true. I love Kim Kardashian.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, as much as you could love somebody you
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: don't know that you don't have to really have a
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: lot of respect for she was you know, yeah.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: No, because.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: Hasn't got a podcast called No Ceilings, y'all enjoy.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Y's the point because everybody would be thinking, I'm crazy.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: She was sucking J Dick on tape.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Jesus, that matters. I just mean somebody had a camera.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: No, she actually recorded, then they sold the video.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: That's a hustle. That's a hustle. Ge.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at her. I totally understand.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I have the utmost respect for prostitutes, porn stars and
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: anybody else that's hustling.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: But let's actually call it what it is.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Most men that get with their women, they not getting
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: a virgin. G. Come on, it's just the truth.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: They're not getting a virgin, whether it's on tape or
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: not on tape.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Him is far from a virgin man, Like we gotta.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Go that far, but virgin every woman had the path.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: On tape, Jesus. So we just start with not sucking
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: dig ona tape.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: In this day and age is kind of hard.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: See everybody pulling their phones out.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: This new generation got it rough. G.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: This is why I stay streaked, I see, because you
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: have to have some moral compass and cold of behavior.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Because look where we're at, like you like.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, now the only pool of women is who's sucking
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: dig gonna tape?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Now, I know, look at this one.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: So this is bout because I have to look at
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: her face, right, because I don't want her to think
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: like I'm like some kind of hee man woman had her.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: But it's like, it's too late if we start with
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: sucking dig on tape.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I get what you're saying.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: This woman has not sucked nobody dick on tape.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: And we've seen the video this lady, So I don't
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: want her to think I'm just saying. I don't want
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: her to think that I'm saying, we got at least
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: start with not sucking dig on take.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, can we not wife who sucking dig.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: On test shouldn't be disqualified?
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: Yes, it's yes, Okay, So what if what if the
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: woman is given and doesn't know that he's being recorded.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: The exception is not the rule. She knew she was
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: being recorded, she was performing, and then they sold the
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: tape for money. They like Kanye's kids, His daughter gonna
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: have to see that, his daughter gonna see this enemy
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: like this man, this man calling my mother out of
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: her name and it's not that's not what it is.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I mean the young lady and young man, that's not
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: what it is. They do this thing and don't think
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: for tomorrow.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Back to the streets. They teach you accountability.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Everything you do. You remember, this shit is going to
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: matter everybody else in regular life. Sucking dick ona tape,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: You will not think how that's gonna bother you because
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: they don't fucking got no morals. Who the fuck would
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: suck dick on tape and think like later on cry
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: like I sucked dig on tape and everybody saw it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: What about people? Who's secret?
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: He just said.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: The exception is some people out there that we've seen.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I don't want to bring those names up, but.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can't sell it right if you sell it,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: soe like, this is way past it, sucking dig onna tape, Like, yes,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: most women probably most women probably have gave flatio right,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: that's the way right, So most women have right, but
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: they also not doing on tape correct. And then if
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: they did it on tape, they're not selling it for
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: money because they.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: Mean they're making the best out of a bad situation,
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: Beyonce said turned lemited in the Lemonade g what was
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: the bad situation?
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: She got caught sucking dick on tape? Who got caught
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Kim and or whatever it was. But then they ended
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: up selling it, right, Yeah, what's wrong with that?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Nothing?
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: But told him, why is it wrong when I'm saying
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: you sucking dick on tape?
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: No, it's not wrong with saying I don't think they
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: got caught.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: They solely. That's how everybody saw it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, and I thought they got leaked and then they
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: didn't know they solely solely. Anyway, let's move on.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: So, I see I didn't hear the album yet, but
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I see Notorious b I G on the album that
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: a new verse old verse.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: No, that's a hooks Okay, I didn't hear it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: It's caused the log. It's dope, the loco. It's a
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: really dope song. It's really dope. At one time, I
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: felt like Big Daddy came rapping at that bpm.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: You can you can relate of cane shit in one
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: twere problems and me thinking I'm up.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: There like chub rock, and I closed with chub rock.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: That was the feel of the song. So I felt
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: like such a hip hop Vet doing that, gotcha.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you about something you sit in
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: to the group chat the other day. You said that
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: mcavelly album and Snoop's doggy style dog Father dog Father.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Snoops dog Father are the same album. Every
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: time I come here, we be and some ship. So
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: let's go right to it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: It's not even front.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: If Tupac doesn't pass away, mcavelly would be considered what
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: dog Father is because you would have been coming off
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: such high production, high value production, high value everything. What
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: happens to somebody really shaped the market. What happened to
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Tupac shaped the marketing and how we received the next album,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Snoop didn't have the benefit of that. He just dre
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: skipped on.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: He just DJ Pool, Me and DJ Pool even talked
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: about it, and he was talking about how much he
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: had to how how hard it was working on that
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: album much they didn't get to do certain things, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: then Snoop got the utmost criticism for it. But imagine
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: if mcavelly follows all lies on me and Tupac is
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: alive and it doesn't have how do you want it?
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: It doesn't have the success of California lovet two number
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: one songs. It don't have the Johnny j production because
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: him and POC had fell out at that point. It
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: doesn't have Doctor Dre because now Doctor Dre is gone
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: and you dissing him, and now we could listen to
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: your dishes and judge whether or not we think it's okay.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: So I think they're almost like the same style of
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: album as far as the way they will follow such huge,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: huge releases.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: So you're not talking about sonically because sonically I just
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: think Mcavelly's just a way better album, and I think
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: that album goes.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Whether or not it's my no I mean, bomb first,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: hell Married.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: It's my favorite POC album.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: But again, following the album, I don't think we hear
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: it the same way. I think we when somebody passes away,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: we take their music differently.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: We start to accept certain things.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: It has an ominous feel, things start to happen, and
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: I think in park situation, him passing away made us
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: feel a lot different about what we heard.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Wasn't that the point of that album?
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: Or whether't he coming out through the alias mcavelly, which
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: it made even crazy.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: So you said, I'm confused, You're saying the Dog for
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the album. Yeah, it's on the same as the mcavelli album.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Yes, I said, the only difference is Tupac passed away,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: so set a marketing landscape for how we receive it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: I disagree with that now mcavell album and you said
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: it's it's it's my favorite.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, But it's part of him passing
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: away because of the ominous feel of the records.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: What records is you like on album Dog?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: So?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I mean I like Pool's production.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Pool did a lot of it, so I pretty
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: much liked about three or four five songs.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: But again I like every song.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: On mcavelly because it just maybe if he's alive and
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: he dis and nods, now it's different him this and.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Nos in depth, it's like he did when he was alive. No,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I mean on the records.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, like if he's dissing jay Z, if he
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: dissing notas if he's dissing doctor Dre and he's breathing air.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Maybe again, right now we just talking about somebody looking
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: at me crazy.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: You think they shouldn't have put the ABU ount is
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: what you're saying.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: No, I think they did the right thing by putting
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the album out.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying I think they're the same type of
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: follow up to those albums, Doggy Style and dog Father.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: I think dog Father got a lot of unwarned criticism
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: because of where everything was at at that time. I
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: think DJ Pool being there, it didn't get enough credit
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: because it wasn't Doctor Dre Doctor Dre leaving and I
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: think Pop passed away, so it created a different space
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: for us to hear the music.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think to Live and Die in La, and
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: you correct me if I'm wrong. This is because I'm
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: on the outside looking and to me, that is the
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: when I think LA, I think the Living Die in
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: La to mean that is the quintessential West.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Coast record in Los Angeles.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: If I landed at the airport, I would want to
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: hear the Living diel a plan you know what?
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: That's over California love.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Because I can understand that from somebody that's from out
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: of town. In town probably not, but out of town.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: I mean to us, like, we'll probably thinking about shook
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Ones or cream like that. But I'm sure New York
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: is a completely different vibeh.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Ones to cream.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: But most people would think Empire State Jay Z and
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Alicia Keys. Most people think that when they come to
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: New York the States, but US hip hopheads, I would
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: think of p s A.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Jay Z, I would think of shook ones. I would
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: think of you know, records like that.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: That's a great point because I don't think nobody in
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: New York would think of Empire State of Mind as
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: the record that you would think that's something.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: But then we was crazy because were healing chilling cousin.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: There was a horse and carriage planning, and it was like, oh,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: this feels like New York.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: But I guess I never thought about it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: Because that's a touristy type of song.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: But here we were gonna play PSA allow me to
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: reintroduce myself ones like That's it's hard to say that's
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: a touristy song when a post child for New York
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: made it to be a New York anthem. The Empire
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: State of Mind is doing exactly what jay Z wrote it. Yeah,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: for sporting events and stuff, but I think he made
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: it for everybody to see New York from a wide perspective,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: correct versus get even though raw New.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: York vibes, whereas like like I said cream. When I
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: think of New York, I think of Cream, or I
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: think of I guess because I've been here too, so
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: you see certain parts of certain worlds you're like, oh,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: it's rougher, and in part said of mind is so clean,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: but it does fit for us. I guess inside.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Probably something like I love it. I love it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: East Siders Okay, Okay, that's a that's a super inside
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: of l A song.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I guess that would be like our shook ones, you
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: I love it the way the hommies come up to
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Snoop Dogg group, the East Siders, him and Trady and Goldie. Uh.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Inside LA sugar Free, I'd rather give you my bitch.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: That's a super Los Angeles. You come into Los Angeles.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I don't think nobody outside of Los Angeles really know
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: about it, But inside of Los Angeles, that ship sets
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: everything off.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: It's pretty fucking dough.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: When we talk about LA, is it anything that can
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: be done to make the streets safe? Because when you
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: think about you know, losing Great Nifty Hustle, losing.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: P and b Rock their way to make the streets safer.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I guess in particular for rappers.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Pop smoke, I mean, just people poor. I don't know.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: So many of these situations is just crazy. Like when
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: we even we talked about what happened.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: With with A.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: P and B Rock, Like, you've been to La enough,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: You've been to La enough. I don't think either one
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: of y'all been over there. I don't think either y'all
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: been to Roscos. I'm sure multiple times neither one of
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: y'all been to that rocks recently. But I wasn't stopping
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: over there though, right, So that's like the locals Roscos,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: and it's like a place that look really poor.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: That's on the east side. This is my side of town.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: This is the Roscos I go to.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I've been going there my whole life, and I don't
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: think that's the kind of place where you jump out,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: so don't. I don't know if there's something that could
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: be done except just making smarter decisions, Like I wouldn't
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: go to no ghetto with what looks like two three
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars worth of jeweliy on. I just think
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: that's a bad idea. I agree, I mean, why would
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: you go around poor people You're supposed to look like
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: an opportunity you're supposed to look like you can give
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: an opportunity, not look like an opportunity. And I think
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: a lot of times rappers it's a weird space. I
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: think hip hop takes a lot of blame for a
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: lot of shit, But I think the one thing that
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: they have really elevated is floshing on poor people. Hip
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: hop used to be the voice of poor people. Now
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: it's about people telling other people how poor they is.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean, And take your woman because
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: you're too poor to have us.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Broke nigga, You know, broke nigga. Me and broke niggas
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: don't get along. It's just like God, damn all your
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: partners is broke and your friends don't get along. So again,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I think hip hop is and I think rappers are
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: kind of flossing on poor people.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Impoort.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: They gotta remember poor people following them, People who don't
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: got a bunch of stuff. If you look on my page,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: you ain't seeing shit I got.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Because I know people that support me, they don't have
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: what I have, So why would I go to any
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: ghetto with just all this jery on?
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I just think that's a bad idea.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: So I don't think what needs to be done is
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: rappers got to kind of realize maybe the goal is
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: not to floss on poor people. I mean I think
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: they I think rappers got to make their own adjustments.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's nothing that could be done amongst
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I think we blame poor people for enough shit.
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: So so what about somebody like nip who who was
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: providing opportunity?
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that situation is really nuanced, Like we you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: we talked about that.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It's a really weird situation.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Between two people from you know, the same community in
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: so many words, and it's like it's a situation that
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: went bad, you know what I mean. And it's it's
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: so much stuff that we don't know about it, even
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: me being from right down the street and this being
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: my friend, I don't so many things that I still
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: am learning every day about the dynamics of it. Death
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: just come with life, and it ain't no getting away
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: and the solution ain't always getting away from poor people.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: That's not going to cause you to die. It's just
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: you know, we can die. That's the point of it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: We can die, you know what I mean. And I
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: think it's more important that we stay around poor people
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: and providing opportunities and help when people get, you know,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: the better their life. That's the only solution. More opportunities
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: for livable wages for poor people. I was thinking about
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: that too. Hip hop is the America's last hope. Explain
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: you mean just culturally what we represent that, Like I'm
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: saying accountability, making.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Sure a square is still a square.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Like the fact that right now I'm telling y'all, you know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: this lady is probably not the kind of lady you
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: should marry, because in the everyday world is just losing
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: morals every day. It's just more things are becoming acceptable
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: for no reason, just for some false sense of inclusion,
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: and it's just not real.
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: But hip hop, and I love hip hop, so don't
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: take this the wrong way. But hip hop can normalize
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: a lot of bullshit too. We have normalized a lot
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: of bullshit.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: But have we really normalized a lot of bullshit that
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: wasn't normal in our communities already?
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: Like what I think that we've celebrated a lot of
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: Like we celebrated the drug culture, Like we've glorified the
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: gang culture. I think a lot of times people did
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: those things out of survival, especially especially hustling. So we
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: turned it turned into a thing people did out of
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: survival that people never spoke about to coming cool, making
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: records about it, like everybody want to be a dope
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: boy or trap boy?
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Now, I mean, is that really the ghetto? I mean,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: what year the scarface come out? I don't know what
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: the seventy something seems like it got worse though, No,
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: it just became something appearing to us like we we
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: take the burden. We take the blame as far as
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: the ghetto, street urban culture, hip hop takes the blame
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: for everything America's been celebrating this shit.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, But if we know better, shouldn't we do better?
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: Like, if we know these things only lead a lot
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: of our people to jail, a lot of our people dead,
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: shouldn't we come up with something else?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: I think what we as far as hip hop, we
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: also do do the best job for the people at
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: the lowest parts of.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Our community needed.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Every while, I do agree that there is some responsibility,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: it's more about the elite. It's more about the top.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: It ain't really about the bottom. The bottom is going
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: to be the bottom because it's you know, motherfuckers don't know,
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: they ignorant, they don't have the information. So it's about
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: us at the top, right, it's about the jay z.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: It's about envious about the people at the top, right
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: by poor people. And you can't ask poor people to
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: make better decisions out of you poor everything you do
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: is by necessity.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: So I agree with that.
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: But to your to what we were talking about earlier, Man,
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: when you go down to that bottom, that's when you
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: get real morals.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: That's when you get real principles.
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: People that may not have a dollar, but they still
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: got an integrity about themselves. Sometimes people at the top
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: with all that money don't have that integrity.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Well, they got the same integrity because the same person
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: gonna sell drugs, right, the wealthiest person and big pharma
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: and the poorest person gonna sell dope, same mentality. So
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: I think it's about the job we do by other
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: poor people within hip hop. That's the only place we
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: fell in that in my mind, we don't.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Do a really ghetto.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: People that succeed don't do the best job by people
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: that's not succeeding. It's always kind of like, oh, you
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: figure it out, Like that's why we started the New West.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: At that time, it was like it's way too much
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: y'all figured out versus hey man, this is how you
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: do it. You in the door, now let me show
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: you how.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: To do it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: It was you, it was Kendrick, it was Nip who was.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Up Mike stro So that that hip hop has to
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: do a much better job of that, Like the the
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: people that are successful gotta come grab people that ain't successful.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: That's the whole premise. That's why it works so well.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: So I think, no, I don't blame us for I
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: don't think we normalized drug dealing. I think drug drug
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: dealing is normal in our ghettos.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we supposed to.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: We made it cool.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Well it's not. It was cool because it was cool
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: because it was success in the community.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: That I think they but a lot of people talked
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: about an act like they did. Like even we talked
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: about this morning on Yesterdays show. We talked about Michael
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Irving and his son, and Mike Rveran was like, my
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: son is not that street yet, but he was. His
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: son was acting rapping like a street dude because he
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: probably sees it working. But he was like Mike Veran
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: was like, my son grew up in the gated community.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: It was there's no street in him.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Well, we had this conversation a many times before.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: I think that's the problem when everybody's trying to jump
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: on the way that poor people have to kind of create.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: A way out for themselves.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: If you're a middle class person and you on the
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: next track to be Michael Irvan's son and maybe go
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: coach a football team, why the fuck is you doing?
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Rap? I mean, you just want But that's another thing.
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: Glass alone told me I'm not a man if I'm
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: not in the street.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: No glasses Malone told you the streets made him a man.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Michael Irvin made cousin man. You know what I mean,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Like Nigga, your middle your wealthy existence was the platform.
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: That that proves you don't have to be street or
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: necessarily religious.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Then still morals in a person, Well.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know, because Mike erv was saying he don't
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: got morals right now. He's like, man, I don't know.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: What's lack of morals. That's just like you pretending to
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: be something you're not.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: That's a lack of morals.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Ain't committing the crime, you just rapping about it.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: That should be a crime. We're just just lying and
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: ship like you just Street and thug and up man
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: some motherfucking interview.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: That's the truth, lied.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of rappers say they done killed
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: this person, shot this person, but a lot of it
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: is not true.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I hope not.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: I hope not. I host everybody. I was just telling
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: them the other day we was talking about Drake was
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: talking about your boy, right, so he was like, the.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Whole shit was Joe.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: And my whole point with Joe was like, how do
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: you talk about Drake's mute?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: This is what Drake do. If you're not a.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Fan of Drake music, you're not a fan of the
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: current wave of whatever's going on.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Oh I saw you do that. I saw I don't
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: know whose podcast was you when I saw that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Back on, I'm telling them and my nigga was like, yeah,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: well you know what about him talking Street. I'm like, well,
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Drake talked like he was making threats in the chat,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't want to find out. I
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: don't want to be the nigga to find out that
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: he has spent some money. So my whole attitude is like,
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: do I thank the man out there thugging?
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Probably not. You know what, if I might even fluce,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: you could do some dumb ass shit.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: So if he trick his shit off playing around with
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: the low level, then let's see all he.
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: Got people around him that could be about that life.
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: Who tied of people playing with their money?
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they ain't talking. They wanted you to get some money.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but they got to.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: I thought what you said was true though.
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: It was just like, yo, if you to not like
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: this Drake album is kind of hypocritical because it's the.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Same music that he's That's what I say. It's the
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: same music.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Whatever the current he's the best at like Madonna. That's enough.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: Everybody got mad when I kept comparing with Madonna, And
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: it's like Madonna used to do the same thing with music.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: She would take whatever the current wave of music and
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: make a Madonna's song. Drake does the same thing right now.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: So if you you can't really dislike Drake's music, it's
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: like you can't really dislike McDonald's. You can talk about
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: it's unhealthy. You could make a lot of ridiculous arguments
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: like I'm not in the mood for it. I want better,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: But come on, man, like Drake is like Drake, she
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: is like a happy meal. It's kind of hard to
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: kind of really hate on you just kind of be like,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: I ain't needing that shit today.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: But you can say, like I think some people say
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I want more rapping. Some people can say I want
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: more of this type of song. But like you said,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: you can't hate this, it's true.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: But who would even want more from Drake? Like it's
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: like want more from McDonald's. I want McDonald's to sell stakes.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: That's just not what Drake does. Drake has done the
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: same consistent thing this whole time, whatever the current way,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: whatever's going on. He makes that and he's gonna make
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: it the best it could be made at a mask consumption.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: That's my point. So I think it makes sense, makes sense.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: Cancer these Nuts is out right now from my guy
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: glasses Malone.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: Make sure you subscribe to the No Ceilings podcast on
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: the Black Second Podcast network.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: That's another thing. Like my motherfucking podcast is really good.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just pretty good at this.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: And don't don't go you can stream my ship. Go
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: to the cryptstore dot com and buy it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, the crypt store, the crypt Store, the crypt But
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I got blood on these they can shop with the
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: making sure. I used to sell them. I used to
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: sell I used to sell drugs.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: I would sell them drugs. They would make money off
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: my drugs so they could buy my music.
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: Cripstore dot com, Cryptstore dot com, Man, go get a
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: cancer these nuts from my guy.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Shout out to my boy Brasco, man the cryptstore dot
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: com gave me my idea too for the crypt store.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: Who my boy Brasco, one of my partners from out
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: the Myphis. He was like, man, you gotta be more
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: a cript. I was like, man, you're right, I got
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: to be a crypt more out loud? What yeah?
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: What?
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: No for real because it matters back ten and everybody
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: will hear me, like hey, you cripping too arm.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, just just enough.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's Glass alone, It's the Breakfast Club.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Good morning with that ass up in the morning. The
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club