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10-21: Mike Macdonald on Sam Darnold, Sam McDowell and Ian! · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning from Seahawks headquarters in Renton. Headlines are brought
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  Speaker 2: to you by Frost Brewed Coors Light, as cold as
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  Speaker 2: the Rockies. The Kraken went up three, nothing in the
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  Speaker 2: second period, then lost the entire lead to Detroit Red
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  Speaker 2: Wings last night at Climate Pledge Arena. Detroit scored three
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  Speaker 2: goals late. And the Kraken won the game in a
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  Speaker 2: shootout this way. Bobby McMahon won in Philly.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a chance to put Seattle on top here.
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  Speaker 2: With some speed, McMahon in.
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  Speaker 3: Wade scores!
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  Speaker 2: Dylan Larkin comes out. What an excellent job there.
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  Speaker 4: Just a quick flick of the wrist.
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  Speaker 2: Dylan Larkin. Against Grubauer. Larkin slows down.
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  Speaker 5: Grubauer!
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  Speaker 6: And Seattle comes away with a 4-3.
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  Speaker 4: Win in a shootout.
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  Speaker 2: Thought we'd give you our guy Ian Furness on the
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  Speaker 2: Kraken TV call last night.
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  Speaker 7: He sounded phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: He did.
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  Speaker 2: He was great. John Forsman was away.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I also like it when people who regularly
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  Speaker 5: do radio do the TV calls because people who only
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  Speaker 5: do television let the picture speak for you.
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  Speaker 7: And Ian just nailed that.
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  Speaker 2: Philip Grubauer again. I mean, I know Joey Decord's the future,
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  Speaker 2: and he's been number one here the last year and
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  Speaker 2: a half, but Philip Grubauer again in the clutch with
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  Speaker 2: the save. Bob McMahon, that guy's a shooter. Give him
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  Speaker 2: the shootouts any time. Kraken have six wins, three losses,
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  Speaker 2: one overtime loss, third place in the Pacific Division, just
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  Speaker 2: behind Edmonton and Vegas. Did you know this is the
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  Speaker 2: most wins over the first ten games of a season
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  Speaker 2: the Kraken have ever had? in their six years of existence.
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  Speaker 7: I did hear that stat, and I liked it.
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  Speaker 2: That is good. The Kraken are already eight points up
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  Speaker 2: on the Canucks, who have lost eight in a row
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  Speaker 2: up north. They're nine points ahead of the Kings and
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  Speaker 2: the Flames in the division. The Kraken next play tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: night at Climate Pledge Arena against the Utah Mammoth. The
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks out here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center preparing
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  Speaker 2: to host the unbeaten Chiefs on Sunday night. Zach Charbonnet
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  Speaker 2: is expected to be in the starting offense today at
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  Speaker 2: practice in the running back's most work yet since his
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  Speaker 2: reconstructive knee surgery eight months ago. Right guard Anthony Bradford
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  Speaker 2: is practicing in his return from injured reserve. He's on
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  Speaker 2: track to start Sunday night. It'll be the first time
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks' starting five offensive linemen from the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: will start together since the opener September 9th against New England.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this story. Former Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: Titans defensive lineman Jordan Elliott, he was a Titan until
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  Speaker 2: this past weekend. He was attempting to retrieve a gun
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  Speaker 2: from his car following an altercation with a teammate during
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  Speaker 2: practice last week, a source confirmed to NFL Network and
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  Speaker 2: Mike Garofalo. The Titans released Elliott Tuesday citing an undisclosed, quote,
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  Speaker 2: incident that occurred at the team facility last week. A
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  Speaker 2: source confirmed to Garofalo that after a dispute with Offensive
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  Speaker 2: 11 J.C. Latham, Jordan Elliott went to his parked car
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  Speaker 2: in the player's parking lot next to the facility to
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  Speaker 2: get a gun. The gun never left Elliott's parking lot.
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  Speaker 2: And the source told Garofalo, turns out a teammate apparently
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  Speaker 2: defused the situation before that got absolutely ugly.
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  Speaker 7: What was going on there?
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  Speaker 2: That's... He's unemployed right now. There you go. The NFBA
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  Speaker 2: season began yesterday with three tip-off games. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you even noticed that or care. The world champion
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  Speaker 2: Knicks lost at home to LeBron James and his Philadelphia 76ers.
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  Speaker 2: Detroit beat Boston. Oklahoma City beat San Antonio. The World
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  Speaker 2: Series will begin Friday night. Tampa Bay Rays versus the
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  Speaker 2: Milwaukee Brewers. That's the first World Series matchup since 1980,
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  Speaker 2: the Royals and Phillies, that both teams have yet to
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  Speaker 2: win at all. The WNBA Finals Game 3 is tonight.
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  Speaker 2: The Atlanta Dream and the Golden State Valkyries are tied
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  Speaker 2: at a game each. In college football, Ohio State coach
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Day says the third-ranked Buckeyes are planning for injured
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  Speaker 2: quarterback Julian Sayan to miss the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 2: The Washington Huskies are off this week. That's more time
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  Speaker 2: for coach Jed Fish to keep everyone, including next week's
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  Speaker 2: opponent Nebraska, guessing on who will start at quarterback for
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  Speaker 2: UW next. And Jessamyn's Washington State Cougars host 21st-ranked Boise
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  Speaker 2: State 3 p.m. Saturday at Martin Stadium.
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  Speaker 7: It's going to be a challenge. I'm excited to see
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  Speaker 7: what Eshelman can do in that situation.
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  Speaker 2: Another start for the redshirt freshman, Eshelman. They look good
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  Speaker 2: in Oregon State. Now on with the Wednesday show. Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Monday. Well, no, it's Wednesday. Hump Day here at
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks Headquarters. I don't know what day it is.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's usually better to assume it's earlier in the
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  Speaker 5: week than later.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 7: Makes you happier.
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  Speaker 2: Getting disappointed. That's right. Yeah. Jess and McIntyre's back at
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  Speaker 2: Elliott Bay Studios in Seattle. I'm down here at Seahawks Headquarters.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell, as I am every Wednesday and Thursday covering
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. They are 3-3. Somewhat of a pivotal game here.
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  Speaker 2: Not only this, but then they have Chicago coming in
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  Speaker 2: as well. And the Heels undefeated Kansas City. And the
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  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walkers come in on Sunday night football at Lumen Field.
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  Speaker 2: And the Seahawks are practicing. They're meeting this morning. They're
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  Speaker 2: meeting right next to me now in the main team room.
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  Speaker 2: And a full day of practice and preparing. They had
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  Speaker 2: an off day yesterday, the mandatory Tuesday day off from
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  Speaker 2: the players' agreement with the league. And then they go
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  Speaker 2: into full work starting today. Good morning, ma'am.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning. Good morning.
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  Speaker 5: How is it out there? Because I woke up with
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  Speaker 5: sun and I drove through a cloud the rest of
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  Speaker 5: the time on my way. Well, I woke up before
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  Speaker 5: the sun came up, but up in my neck of
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  Speaker 5: the woods, it was not a cloud.
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  Speaker 7: This morning it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Seattle, this time of year, the city proper Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: as we know, those of us have lived here in October,
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  Speaker 2: warm afternoons and sun and then cold nights, meaning the
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  Speaker 2: fog burn off like after 12 or one o'clock in
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  Speaker 2: the afternoon. This is like, someone told me this was
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  Speaker 2: the driest October ever on record. I mean, we've only
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  Speaker 2: had a couple days of light rain here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we got, the leaves change and everything. I always
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  Speaker 5: enjoy fall. It's my favorite season. I was a fall
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  Speaker 5: sport athlete and I always loved football. And I just remind,
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  Speaker 5: like I'm reminded that it's the best season on earth.
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  Speaker 7: And when we actually get it, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it's the best season? Yes. I love summer, but.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I worked through every summer, so I didn't
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  Speaker 5: really enjoy summer the way that other people do, but
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  Speaker 5: I just love the fall because it's still, you know,
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  Speaker 5: tolerable when it comes to the weather, when it is
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  Speaker 5: like it is right now.
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  Speaker 2: What's Pullman up to? Is it frozen yet? It usually
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  Speaker 2: freezes and snows by the Halloween.
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  Speaker 7: No, they're doing great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had good weather over there in Pullman on
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  Speaker 2: the east side. If you're joining us on the Palouse,
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  Speaker 2: Jessamyn McIntyre, of course, is the Washington State football sideline
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  Speaker 2: reporter for Washington State football. She'll be doing that Saturday
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  Speaker 2: afternoon when Boise State comes calling to the 1-6 Cougs.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see the story? You saw Legree. Jesse Legree,
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  Speaker 2: the phenom freshman wide receiver at Oregon State. You saw
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  Speaker 2: him up close on the field at Reeser Stadium.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's good.
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  Speaker 2: He's like seven weeks in a row he's been the
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  Speaker 2: Pac-12 freshman of the week. He's one of the leading
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  Speaker 2: receivers in the country as a freshman. Did you see
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  Speaker 2: his father and what they're pulling this week? Oregon State
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  Speaker 2: has a vibe.
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  Speaker 5: Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: His father has announced that there is going to be a, quote,
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  Speaker 2: decision day on Friday for his son, Jesse Legree. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell kind of decision could he be making
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of his college football season?
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  Speaker 7: He really shouldn't be doing it. Did you see what
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  Speaker 7: Chad Johnson did, though?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So go ahead and explain to Chad Johnson what the
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  Speaker 2: chick is doing.
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  Speaker 5: Well, he offered $ 2 million as an alum, $ 2 million
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  Speaker 5: to keep him there.
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  Speaker 7: But why is that talked about in the middle of
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  Speaker 7: the season?
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  Speaker 2: Right. Right. That's the point. Jamarcus Shepard, the coach of
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  Speaker 2: Oregon State, Ocho Cinco, Chad Johnson, former Oregon State Beaver,
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  Speaker 2: has offered $ 2 million in asking the Oregon State football
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  Speaker 2: program and Jamarcus Shepard, the coach, to match it, to
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  Speaker 2: get $ 4 million to keep Legree at Oregon State. To
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  Speaker 2: keep LaGrietta, he's only played for a month of college football.
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  Speaker 7: But it shouldn't even be a question at this point.
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  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be.
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  Speaker 7: And why is his father saying decision day? Could he
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  Speaker 7: leave right now?
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  Speaker 2: Of course he could. The way college football's rules are,
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  Speaker 2: you could leave into LSU. Mississippi had players leave into
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  Speaker 2: LSU in the middle of the college football playoff last year.
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  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous what we're at here.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 2: A decision day for a freshman who's played six college games,
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  Speaker 2: one month of college football, has a decision day. His
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  Speaker 2: decision was to commit to Oregon State football for at
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  Speaker 2: least a year. At least. You can't even do that? No.
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  Speaker 2: You can't even do one year? One season?
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  Speaker 5: This also sounds like sometimes people speak out of turn,
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  Speaker 5: and family members and non-agent agents for these guys, these
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  Speaker 5: NIL agents who aren't actually agents, will sometimes– get ahead
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  Speaker 5: of things.
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  Speaker 7: We saw what happened to DeMond Williams last year.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that sometimes they just maybe that is
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  Speaker 5: not what the Gris was exactly planning on.
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  Speaker 7: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 5: But sometimes people do speak out of term and I'm
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  Speaker 5: not being defensive or accusatory, but we don't know what's
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  Speaker 5: going to happen. Decision day. Could he start on another
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  Speaker 5: team at this point of the season?
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, the transfer port is closed until the end
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  Speaker 2: of the year. But end of the calendar year, not
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  Speaker 2: the end of the season. There's something else wrong with that.
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  Speaker 2: But he can commit to another school. He could claim
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  Speaker 2: he's not going to play so he doesn't get injured,
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  Speaker 2: so he doesn't risk his millions of dollars that he's
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  Speaker 2: going to get promised by LSU or somebody else. It's ugly.
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  Speaker 2: It's dirty.
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  Speaker 7: At this point of his career, a freshman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how about we teach an 18-year-old about commitment? And
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  Speaker 2: about following through on some accountability of your commitment and saying, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I committed to at least one season at Oregon State. Now,
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  Speaker 2: even one season seems ridiculous, but a month of half
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  Speaker 2: a season? Go on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Making a decision, he's going to make an announcement that
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  Speaker 2: he's staying at Oregon State. It's a bye week for
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  Speaker 2: the Beavers, yes. But why would you make this a
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  Speaker 2: distraction about yourself over your team in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the season?
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  Speaker 7: Especially with Boise being so good.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. And Next up for Oregon State next week is
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  Speaker 2: Fresno State inside the new reformed Pac-12. Five wins in
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  Speaker 2: a row for Oregon State, and they're dealing with this.
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  Speaker 2: Legree is the first receiver in college football this season
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  Speaker 2: to have 1,000 yards, and he did it in five,
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  Speaker 2: six games. And, yes, all of that's true, but how
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  Speaker 2: about just a commitment and an accountability to what you
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  Speaker 2: committed to for at least a season this Without any
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  Speaker 2: of this nonsense, whether it's her father doing it rogue
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  Speaker 2: on his own or not, college football.
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  Speaker 5: Well, like you said, it used to be formative years
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  Speaker 5: where you actually learned about commitment.
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  Speaker 7: Brotherhood, being a good teammate.
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  Speaker 5: It was, you know, between the ages of 18 to 22, 23.
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  Speaker 7: You usually learn about that, and then you go on
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  Speaker 7: from there.
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  Speaker 5: And that used to be the sanctity of college sports,
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  Speaker 5: and football is the biggest moneymaker. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The second fail of the day I want to bring up,
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  Speaker 2: did you see the Brewers and their timeless ticket promotion?
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  Speaker 7: I did not catch that one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. The Brewers, of course, are in the World Series.
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  Speaker 2: Back in 2015, they had a timeless ticket promotion that
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  Speaker 2: said for $ 1, 000 per ticket, you can buy advanced rights
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  Speaker 2: to any World Series that the Brewers may ever get
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  Speaker 2: into from 2015 on. Well, 11 years later, the Brewers
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  Speaker 2: are in the World Series. And guess what? The people
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  Speaker 2: who bought $ 1, 000 tickets, timeless tickets, 11 years ago are
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  Speaker 2: coming to collect. Yeah. And the written language was, well,
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  Speaker 2: let me tell you. This is from ABC 30 television
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  Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. Two Kenosha brothers, Kenosha, Wisconsin, who paid $ 1, 000
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  Speaker 2: each for a Milwaukee Brewers, quote, timeless ticket more than
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  Speaker 2: a decade ago, say the team isn't fully honoring the
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  Speaker 2: promise that came with it. The chance to sit in
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  Speaker 2: the best available seats for a game as big as
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  Speaker 2: the World Series. Kevin and Kyle Deaton of Kenosha, Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 2: say they were stunned when they saw the seating options
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  Speaker 2: made available to timeless ticket holders last week by the Brewers,
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  Speaker 2: terrace-level seats, or standing room only priced at or below
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  Speaker 2: what the two brothers paid for their timeless ticket in 2015.
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  Speaker 2: The tickets, according to the information card the Brewers sent out, quote,
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  Speaker 2: may be redeemed for the best available seat location subject
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  Speaker 2: to ticket availability at the time of redemption. The brothers
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  Speaker 2: argue that the Brewers are not living up to that language.
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Deaton said, ABC 30 TV in Milwaukee, quote, when
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  Speaker 2: you promise somebody the best seat available and you give
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  Speaker 2: them pretty much the worst seats that you have in
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  Speaker 2: the whole stadium, I would say, no, they're not honoring it.
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  Speaker 2: So the Brewers responded yesterday and they said, quote, we erred.
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  Speaker 2: On the logistics of fulfilling time with ticket requests for
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  Speaker 2: World Series games, limiting fans to the 400 level and
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  Speaker 2: standing room tickets. Quote, prior to the deadline, several hundred
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  Speaker 2: fans indicated intention or deemed their timeless ticket for a
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  Speaker 2: World Series game. Yeah, imagine that. We subsequently erred in
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  Speaker 2: our internal communications on the logistics of filling the request.
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  Speaker 2: While we are able to accommodate all with seats, we
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  Speaker 2: received feedback that some were unhappy with their seat locations. Clearly,
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  Speaker 2: even with extraordinary limitations on available seats, We did not
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  Speaker 2: live up to the spirit of the program, and we've
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  Speaker 2: been working through a resolution. So here's the resolution. We
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  Speaker 2: are happy to say that all these fans who applied
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  Speaker 2: prior to the deadline about these timeless tickets will be
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  Speaker 2: contacted with a positive update. They can retain their World
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  Speaker 2: Series ticket for this year. Remember, that's in the upper
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  Speaker 2: deck or standing room only. Plus retain their timeless ticket
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  Speaker 2: for redemption for another game in any future season. We
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  Speaker 2: regret our mistake and look forward to welcoming you into
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  Speaker 2: American Family Field for their World Series experience. So you
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  Speaker 2: could go to any other game since we screwed up
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  Speaker 2: this World Series experience. You know what this is. The
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  Speaker 2: Brewers know they can buy and can sell far more
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  Speaker 2: lucrative seats than $ 1, 000 for these games. And the secondary
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  Speaker 2: market and the Brewers and their MLB has a ticket
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  Speaker 2: master deal and all the whole, it's money. And they
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  Speaker 2: know that they forgot or didn't care Back in 2015
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  Speaker 2: when they were collecting $ 1, 000 each. But now they care
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  Speaker 2: when those tickets will probably go for two, three, four,
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  Speaker 2: five times that. Incredible that money is the ill of everything,
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  Speaker 2: is it not?
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's really bad, though. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 5: This is over 10 years ago that you offered this
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  Speaker 5: to your fans. You put that money in your coffers
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  Speaker 5: for 10 years.
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  Speaker 7: You made money on that money.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. They put it in a savings account or escrow
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  Speaker 2: and got interest on it. Exactly. Right. Now they're going
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  Speaker 2: to make more money by selling the seats they were
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  Speaker 2: supposed to give those people. You have to honor that, man.
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  Speaker 7: You have to honor that. That's pretty bad.
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  Speaker 5: And then, yeah, they said there were some internal communications
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  Speaker 5: issues on the logistics of fulfilling the request.
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  Speaker 7: How are you not ahead of this?
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  Speaker 2: That's HR speaking through a rosary. On the show today,
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  Speaker 2: Coach Mike McDonald says the Seahawks are more closely aligned
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  Speaker 2: now than they were during their overtime loss in Denver.
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  Speaker 2: What happened? Why are they more closely aligned? Why weren't
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  Speaker 2: they closely aligned then? You'll hear from the coach about
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  Speaker 2: that and about Sam Donald and his frustration in Denver.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: The NBA season is beginning, and the league continues to
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: jerk us around here in Seattle about the return of
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  Speaker 2: the Sonics. No other two ways to say that. 49451,
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  Speaker 2: my first question on the Tacoma Dodge text line for
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  Speaker 2: the day. Did you even notice the NBA season started yesterday? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 7: I live in an NBA household.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you do.
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  Speaker 5: But it is pretty personal because Mike and I are
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  Speaker 5: not from here. I am very well in tune with
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  Speaker 5: everything because I moved out here right after the Sonics left.
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  Speaker 5: So for me, I am not as into it, but
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  Speaker 5: I do appreciate him loving the sport so much. And
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  Speaker 5: especially when football ends, that's when the NBA season, when
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  Speaker 5: I would tune in, is usually ramping up.
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  Speaker 2: I covered that trial in 2008 in the federal courthouse
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  Speaker 2: on Olive and 8th. And I was there every day.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: And I knew that the city of Seattle was going
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: to win that case. and that the Sonics would have
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: to play through the end of their lease at Key
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Arena in Seattle Center. And I was, the day before
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: the 4th of July, or July 2nd, I think it was,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: two days before the 4th of July, I was there
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: when the city caved and settled the lawsuit and let
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Clay Bennett run free to Oklahoma. And I'll never forget that.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: And everyone who's lived in Seattle way before I moved
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: here in the mid-90s will never forget it either. And
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: that's why we don't like the NBA. And the fact
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: that Adam Silver is still jerking around the city and telling, well,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: it's not... guarantee now that Seattle is going to get
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: a team. And what about Mexico city trying to drive
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: up the price?
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: At a hundred percent is driving up the price.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Like you said, the money is of everything, but, but
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: the thing is the people here are already sick of
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: it and almost done with the NBA, not as angry
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: as they used to be, but it is, if you
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: really think that a team is going to be here,
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: wouldn't you maybe not say it's a lock, but don't
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: say it's not a lock.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, And the shame of it, of course, is how
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: great of a basketball legacy we have in this town
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: to this day. I heard Ian talk about this yesterday.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Metro League basketball games in the city, the Kinko games
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: in the suburbs, the South Sound, Isaiah Thomas' history, Bellarmine Prep,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: on and on. Western Washington and Eastern Washington, Spokane for
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: that matter, hoops is huge to this day. And the
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: basketball legacy here, back to the Sonics and the 79 championship. And, yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: we deserve better, to say the least. And here we
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: are waiting for the whims of NBA owners to drive
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: up expansion costs to maximize their revenue for their pockets.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: 11 o'clock, we're going to go live to Kansas City.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to Sam McDowell, a friend of mine.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: He's been covering the Chiefs for years for the Kansas
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: City Star, calling us for them now. I'm going to
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: ask him if Andy Reid can keep up playing and
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: running Kenneth Walker this much, like 75-80% of the time,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: all offensive plays for the Chiefs. We'll talk more about
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks undefeated opponent Sunday night at Lumen field, 1130.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: We'll read back your text on the four, nine, four, five,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: one to come out. It's text line and talk backs
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: in the I heart radio app or our website, nine
• 18:50
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• 18:54
  Speaker 2: form on the Seahawks as they prepare for the chiefs.
• 18:57
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• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Talk about his game last night. What do you like
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: about the call and the finish and, what he's got
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: on his show 12 until three today, that's all coming
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: up from the Seahawks headquarters here in Renton. And at noon,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: right at high noon, Mike McDonald will have his weekly
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Wednesday press conference. And then usually they bring in Cooper
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: cup and Leonard Williams. Those are the staples on Wednesday.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold talks on Thursday, but yeah, the NBA started my,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: my friend, Chris kid. I know he's fired up about that,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: but me, I don't, I, You're not into it?
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: No.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Now, when the Sonics come back, I'll be in on
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: the Sonics. And I'll cover them and be out there,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: of course. But in the meantime, just tell me when
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: they're here. In fact, it's gotten to the point where
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I won't believe it until the ball's in the air.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Same.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, until it actually starts.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: I'm just going back a decade ago when we were
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: all at the Chris Hansen rallies downtown in Pioneer Square.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: Thought he was the one.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Up next, from Seahawks headquarters here, Mike McDonald talking about
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: a breakthrough, that we are, quote, definitely more aligned as
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: a team after their mini-buy and their loss in Denver
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: last week. You'll hear how they got over their long
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: weekend off and what they talked about, who they talked with,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and about Sam Darnold's frustration next from Seahawks headquarters at
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJRFM. Welcome back to Seahawk Headquarters. It's Wednesday. I
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: almost said Monday. It's Wednesday.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: You freaked someone out on the text line.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I see that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I hope now they're pleasantly surprised the week is almost
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: half over. The Seahawks are preparing for the unbeaten Chiefs
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Sunday night football 515 at Lumen Field or 520, whatever
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: they do, kickoffs on Sunday night at Lumen Field. The
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: NFL is going to Paris for the first time for
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a regular season game this week, and that might not
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: be the perfect place to be right now. The Saints
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: and the Steelers are playing in Paris Sunday morning, our time, 630.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: They're telling fans arriving from the States for the game
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: in Paris that the Louvre is closed, curfews in the
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: city are in effect, and in game day, stay close
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to the stadium, go directly from the train station to
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the stadium, and then back to the train station. Do
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: not wander through neighborhoods of Paris. Central Paris, Notre Dame,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: and the Eiffel Tower are open. However, there will be
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: metro and road closures. Metro, the train system in Paris.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I've used it. Protesters may or may not circle the
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Eiffel Tower. They have done that in the past when
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: they protest. There have been riots in Paris now for
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the last week or so. They had a PSG Barcelona
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Champions League match there yesterday warning fans about the unrest
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that's going on in the country of France and the
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: capital city of Paris. And now the NFL is parachuting
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: in for its first regular season game in the French
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: capital amid riots. And the Saints and Steelers are going
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: to probably be sequestered in their hotels for the entire
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: time they are here. That's the same thing that's happened
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: in Mexico City when the NFL has played games there.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: The 49ers and the Minnesota Vikings are going to play,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: the two current NFC underbeatens, by the way, are going
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: to play in Mexico City next month. And I know
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: friends that have covered the Raiders, the 49ers, and games
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: in Mexico City. And the NFL has locked those teams
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: in the hotel. They go out for maybe practice, and
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: that's it. Meals brought in. They're afraid of crime in
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Mexico City, and they're afraid of players and people wandering
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: in Mexico City streets. Yet here's Adam Silver saying he's
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: using Mexico City as leverage to try to get the
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Seattle price up. I mean, it's ridiculous.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: You're going to put a whole team there?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Anyway, but that's what the Paris situation with the Steelers
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and Saints reminded me of. Back here on home soil,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks had a mini-bye last week. That's the flip
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: side plus to having to play a Thursday game after
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a Sunday game is you get 10 days off. Well,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: 10 days between, not off, but 10 days between until
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the next game. The players were off this past weekend.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: From Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, they didn't do anything. They
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: weren't on the field, but the coaches were in the building,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: especially Friday and Saturday. And then they met with the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: players after the mini break. Mike McDonald says that they
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: are more closely aligned now than they were during the
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: overtime loss in Denver. How did that happen? Why did
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: that happen? You'll hear how they got there next when
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: we hear from Mike McDonald. And you'll hear about my
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: questions to the coach about Sam Darnold and his frustration
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: that he obviously showed after the game with two more interceptions,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: seven in the four games since he's come back. off
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: that glute injury. This was Mike McDonald talking about where
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, what ground they covered on the mini-bye weekend off.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: You mentioned that you were going to have a conversation
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: with Sam and Jake and Brian Fleury.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: That conversation happened, and was Cooper Cup part of that
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: conversation as well?
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: It wasn't just one conversation. We had a lot of conversations.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Over the last few days.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Coop's a part of that. Coop's a tremendous asset for us,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: so We want all those guys to feel like we're
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: all part of the solution and how we're going to
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: move forward. It's been great.
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: How do you feel those conversations went compared to what
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: you expected?
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: I think what we've told the team today is the
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: games are so emotional. You leave a game and I
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: guess the emotions do vary sometimes from week to week
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: based off the game. I think I think where my
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: frustration lie was just, I think we talked about this
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: after the game, was just the identity of us and
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: what it feels like, Seahawks football, and that feeling wasn't there.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: And so you have frustration, but you're frustrated also without
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: the facts and without the objectivity behind everything. So I
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: think that's what makes the problem-solving process.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: Interesting.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: It makes me, that's part of the reason we like
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: being coaches because that's part of our process. So I'm
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: proud of the days, you know, the couple of days
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: work that we put in. I think we had some,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: some honest conversations and honest process. I think we're, I
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: think we're definitely more aligned as a team than we
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: were a few days ago. And I'm excited about where
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: we can go, honestly. But, you know, we've really had
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: one good days worth of work up to this point.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: So it's, it's just a matter of falling through and
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: making sure we're hitting the checkpoints on a daily basis,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: just like it was before. Um, but, uh, but it
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: was definitely, I think it was definitely a couple of
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: days like well-served. So, uh, I think it's cause for
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: excitement on where we can go.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Not being where you want it to be.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Is it as simple as the turnovers or is there
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: more to it than that?
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Again, I think, I think when you're, when you look
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: at like, Hey, there's line items of throughout all three
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: phases of our team that we want to get better at. Well,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: you know, those are, those are symptoms of things that were,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: are within our control that we can, we can be better,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: you know? So like the example I like to use
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: is tackling. It's like, well, we're not tackling well. Well,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: not because the guys don't want to tackle. It's probably
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: because there's too much space. It's probably because there's a
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: fundamental that maybe we could.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Have worked better.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: The guy could have applied better to that type of situation,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: or maybe it's more effort coming from a certain angle,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: or maybe it's an angle we need to take. So
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: it's more fundamental things that we want to be able to, um,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: you know, like apply in those situations that we can hit.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Those are things that we can handle here throughout the week.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: So they get, we feel like our players are better
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: trained to go tackle better, which if we tackle great,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: then you're going to, everyone's going to say, Hey man,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: they're playing great Seahawk defense. Well, it's because our fundamentals
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: are on point, you know? So hopefully that kind of
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: paints you a picture about what we feel like can
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: slow down the takeaway issue.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Are there things like schematically as well that you feel
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: like you need to, I don't know, change or kind
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: of discuss on this as well?
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I think the short answer is yes. The long answer
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: is are we running bad plays? No, the plays are fine.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: It's how we get to the plays. It's how we
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: run the plays. It's how we choose the plays, how
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: we execute the plays, those type of things.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: We all noticed the results on the field, but Sam Darnold,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: since he's come back, his leadership or the locker room,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: how do you assess that since his injury?
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Sam's been great. All the things that we said that
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: we were always impressed by Sam was his consistency and
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: his attitude.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: And his ball player attitude.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Every day, same guy. Sam's been very consistent. He's been
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: trying to be part of the conversations of us on
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: where we can go. So he's been, he's been great.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: He was wearing it pretty heavy with us in Denver
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: after the game. Did you notice any frustration or difference
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: in him than any other game?
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I think we're all heavy and frustrated.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: That was Mike McDonald's way of saying yes. Yes. Sam
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Darnold was frustrated.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: He put himself in that group.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: He did. The whole team was after the game. In Denver,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the 17-14 overtime loss. But it was interesting to hear
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: McDonald almost describing that the team somewhat reinvented itself on
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: this mini-bye by becoming more closely aligned. Last week we
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: talked about, before the Denver game, Jess, I think you remember,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: we talked about Sam Darnold going to Brian Fleury after
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the 49ers game, the loss at home, and saying, let's
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: go back to plays. Let's run plays that I liked
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: in training camp. Base foundation plays. Not opponent-specific for the Broncos.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: but just base plays. And I thought they came out
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: doing that. The first four passes were on time. As
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: soon as he got on his back foot throwing short,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: quick outside four for four passing, the Seahawks moved down
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the field. They end up drive stalling deeper in Broncos territory,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and Jason Myers kicked a field goal for an early
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: 3-0 lead. And then after that, it seemed like that
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: didn't happen anymore. He was far less decisive for the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: rest of the game than after that first drive. And
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: it looked to me like they were improvisational, and it
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: was the opposite of decisive and on time in the
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: plays that he was most comfortable with. He ended up
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: getting hit 17 times in that game, sacked five times.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: He's been sacked 10 times the last two weeks. And
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: we've already drawn the direct line, Jessamyn, that that's because
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: of the lack of a running game and running backs
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: who can get to the holes.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, that's clearly what the issue is.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: And, you know, the offensive line is put on skate
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: sometimes just because the running game can't get going. And
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: obviously that's a symbiotic relationship. when it comes to those fronts.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it is definitely clearly something that has helped
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: Sam Darnold in the past that he doesn't quite have
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: He doesn't. And is Zach Charbonnet's return going to fix that?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not so sure this week. He's going to practice
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: full go in the offense today. Charbonnet is scheduled to anyway.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: For the first time since mid-January, since that injury in
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the divisional playoff game, against the 49ers, he has not
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: been with the offense since that game. That's what, nine
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: months ago, over nine months ago, nine months and a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: week to be exact. So he can't be a 20
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: carry guy on Sunday night against the Chiefs. So he's
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: going to be a partial answer to their running game woes.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: But even Charbonnet, if you think about it, is not
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the quintessential outside back. He's not the decisive one cut
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and go. He's not quick to the hole as quick
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: as Kenneth Walker is. and was for this team not
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: as quick as Jadarian Price had already showed in his
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: three games before he went on injured reserve. So even
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: when Charbonnet comes back, that may not be the total
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: answer either. Jessamyn, it's obvious, their answer was Jadarian Price.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: They went full lock, stock, and barrel all in on
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Price as being the heir to Kenneth Walker, and he's
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: on injured reserve, Price is, at least until November 2nd
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: when they play the Chicago Bears. And that's where they stand.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: This was not the plan to have Emmanuel Wilson plotting
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: short yardage back 220 pounds as your outside zone rusher
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to get to the hole in the rushing lane quickly.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: It was not the design to have Abe Lucas and
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the right guard, who has been Christian Haynes and rookie
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Bo Stevens and Anthony Bradford's absence, and the center, Jalen Sundell.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: To the right side, when they run stretch plays in
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: outside zone, the plan wasn't for those guys to hold
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: their blocks or drive their guys five yards off the ball.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: It was to get in the way, to somewhat mirror
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: and wall off defenders for a short period of time
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: that an outside back, Jadarian Price, would have the speed
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: to then get through so you don't have to hold
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: your block very long. That's where the running game has failed.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: They don't have a running back fast enough to get
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: outside and get through that rushing lane that outside zone
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: is supposed to hold. Think Terrell Davis and the Denver
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Broncos of Mike Shanahan's offense in the 90s that won
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: two Super Bowls. That offense is exactly what they're running here.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: It's the same system. John Benton's outside zone is the
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Shanahan system. And Terrell Davis made his mark and became
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: an NFL MVP because of the ability to get outside
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and get upfield in a short amount of time with
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: perfect synchronicity to that zone blocking. There is no synchronicity
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: to Emmanuel Wilson and George Helani running through outside zone.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: They're not. They're late. Their holes are closed by the
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: time they get there. The timing is completely off. They're
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: running a system for a back, two backs. They're running
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: a system for two backs. One is in Kansas City,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: and one's on injured reserve. That's where the Seahawks' running
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: game is right now, and can they fix that Sunday night?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Zach Sharpen is going to help, but Jadarian Price, his
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: return November 2nd against Chicago is not even a sure
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: thing yet, but that's the first game he's eligible to
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: come back. That's when they'll have their back back. That
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: fits the system that they're running.
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean, this happens in football. It just happens.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: All of a sudden, you have all your eggs in
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: a running back basket, and then you have to go
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: to the robin's eggs that you have left over.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: And that is what we're seeing. That is what we're
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: seeing right now.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: And sure, does it expose Sam Darnold as needing to
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: rely on a running game? It absolutely does. I watched
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: multiple Jets seasons where I've seen that as well. Saw
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: it with Mark Sanchez all the way back in the
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: wayback machine. And if you don't have that, well, Mike
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: McDonald clearly has a system. He has something that he plans.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: He and John Schneider have planned this team around a
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: certain thing. If one of the cogs fall out of
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: the wheel, then you've got to paste it up.
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: These are Band-Aid situations.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Will that paste include a trade? November 10th is the
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: trade deadline, and you know that John Schneider is looking
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: for a running back. There's no doubt that he's calling
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: around the league and see who's maybe available. Najee Harris
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: just became available yesterday when the Giants released him, but
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: he's just barely a year out of an Achilles tear.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks looked at him in the offseason and chose
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: not to sign him then. Then he was supposedly a
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: starter with the Giants when they benched Cam Scadaboo last week,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and he only got two carries. Najee Harris did early
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: in the game and was out of rhythm, he said,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: after the game. So, yeah, the coverage bare at running back.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Are the holes there? The 4-2-5 ask on the text line.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: We just explained. I think the holes are there, and
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: they're gone by the time the backs that they currently
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: have get there. They're too slow to get to those
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: holes that are available earlier in the play. Up next,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the NBA season started yesterday, and I'm not sure we noticed.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I know I didn't notice or care. What the NBA
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: is doing to Seattle. Let's talk about the NBA for
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: a minute. The leverage play they're trying to pull on
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: raising the expansion fees in the city and what Adam
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Silver has been saying about this this week. That's next.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: 11 o'clock, Sam McDowell will go to Kansas City. The
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Kansas City star. Good friend of mine, Sam McDowell, covers
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs. He'll tell us about Kenneth Walker's big start,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: how Andy Reid's using him. Patrick Mahomes' recovery from his
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: own knee issue from December. The Seahawks opponent Sunday night.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: We'll talk that at 11 o'clock. 1135 Factor Friction, your
• 36:11
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• 36:13
  Speaker 2: All that's coming up from Seahawks headquarters on 93.3 KJRFM.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm at Seahawks headquarters, Greg Bell. Jess and
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: McIntyre is back in our LA Bay studios in downtown Seattle.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I'm out here because the Seahawks are beginning to prepare
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: in full for their game Sunday night against the undefeated
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. Zach Sharbon expected to practice today. It'll
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: be the first time he's full go in the offense
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: since his reconstructive knee surgery in February and his injury
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: in the January playoff game against San Francisco. So that's
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: nine months ago since he's been in the offense. And
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Anthony Bradford is now full go practicing at right guard,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: designated to return to practice this week off injured reserve.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Those are two roster moves the Seahawks will make in
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Charbonnet's case by tomorrow. Tomorrow is the end of Charbonnet's
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: 21-day practice window off of the physically unable to perform list.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: By tomorrow, they have to either add him to the
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: active roster, which means they have to take someone off
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: the 53, or they declare that Charbonnet's out for the
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: season and won't play and stay on the physical and
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: able to perform list through the end of the year,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: and there are no signs that's going to happen. So
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: tomorrow will be at least one roster move to get
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Charbonnet back on the active roster to play, in Mike
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: McDonald's words, some capacity, unquote, Sunday night against the Kansas
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: City Chiefs. Yesterday there were three NBA games, regular season games,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you noticed. One was in Detroit
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: in the afternoon, and they had an evening first game
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: in Madison Square Garden, and the world champion Knicks lost
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: to LeBron James in the Philadelphia 76ers. Yes, if you
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: haven't noticed, James is now with the 76ers. Yeah, that's
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: a thing. That is a thing. And then the Western
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Conference Finals rematch from last season was the nightcap last night,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: and San Antonio lost to Oklahoma City. Did you even notice?
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I asked the question at the top of the show.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Did you notice the NBA started? Do you even care?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: This city has been noticing what Adam Silver and the
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: NBA have been leaking out to Brian Windhorst of ESPN
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: and other national insiders carrying their water for him to
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: say that it is not a fait accompli that the
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: expansion teams will be awarded to Las Vegas and Seattle,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: and Seattle in particular. Remember, Adam Silver has said that
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: by the end of this calendar year, he would have
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: an announcement on the expansion process and where it stands.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: And now he's saying that perhaps it'll be a few
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: years before the teams tip off, which means it could
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: be the 28, 29 NBA season before new teams can play.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: And Brian Winhurst of ESPN through leaks, through the league
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: owners and league office saying that even Mexico city is
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: still a possibility for expansion, which is nothing more than
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: a leverage of power play there to try to raise
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the expansion teams cost here in Seattle and Right now,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: it's been basically one roof sports and entertainment, the newly
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: created entity that owns the building in Seattle Senate is
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: NBA ready, that owns the Kraken, that would own and
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: operate the new nba team and that's been it as
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: far as viable bidders there's been that proposal to build
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: up in marysville and i just can't see that that
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: is even something that's going to gain traction at all
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: but in The NBA's minds and the owners' minds, the
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: higher that they can raise the expansion cost of the
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: new franchise in Seattle, the more money goes into the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: other team owners' pockets. All the other team owners pocket
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: the expansion fees in an equal setting. 30 teams, 30
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: other teams in this case with two new ones coming
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: in would divide that pie so they want the pie
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: to be larger. Las Vegas... has been rumored to be
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: up to $ 8, $ 9, $ 10 billion in expansion fees, with
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Seattle more like $ 6 or $ 7 billion. So what's a
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: few billion among friends to raise the expansion cost of
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Seattle up toward the Las Vegas price more toward $ 10
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: billion so that those other owners can pocket the increase?
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: That's all that's going on here. In the meantime, basketball
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: fan Seattle has been waiting since 2008, 6,000-plus days as
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: He and pointed out on his show yesterday for the
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: return of the Sonics gets jerked around with stuff like
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Mexico City and leveraging. And, well, it's not a sure thing. And, well,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: we'll do it by the end of the year, maybe.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: You can see why people are fed up with the NBA.
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. This moving goalpost is driving everyone nuts.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: And a lot of people have gone from just disdain
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: to I don't care.
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot on the text line here, the 4255.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: And others saying, I quit noticing the NBA after they left,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: and now the way they've jerked us around, I'm done.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: And a lot of fans feel that way until the
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: team gets here, until they're actually playing. And then we'll
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: come back. The arena will be full. It'll be expensive.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And the team won't be very good to start the
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: NBA expansion process. But it's not good, to say the least.
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: No, it's really not.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, we're going on almost 20 years without a
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: team here. And it looks like it will be at
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: least 20 for us to get one.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Right. If they don't start now until 20, 28, and 29.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: So we hear you on the text line. I hear
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: you in the street corners of Seattle and the barbershops
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: and down the grocery store by House and Roosevelt. I
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: get it. And I understand. And there are a lot
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: of us that want the NBA to come back and
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: want the Sonics to come back. But we're done with
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: the NBA as an entity. We're just done with them.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: They've done so much to engender ill will that we're
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: done with them. And there's a 425 on the Tacoma.Tech site, 49451,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: is stating that they think that One Roof is playing
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: this perfectly, avoiding blame and letting the simpletons in the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: media run with the NBA is the bad guy narrative.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: That's not a narrative here in Seattle. That's a fact.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: The NBA is the bad guy because they're the ones
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: who orchestrated the team's move out of Seattle in 2008,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: orchestrated the settlement with the city. Who would be.
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: The bad guy in this situation other than the NBA?
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: They're not the good guy.
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: Clay Bennett and obviously Howard Schultz are on the list.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: The NBA is not the good guy here, that's for sure.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: What they've done to our city and region in the
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: first place and now what they've done delaying the return
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: of the Sonics. And the whole expansion process being delayed
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: and so on and so on. They're extorting. They're trying
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: to leverage more money and make the Seattle franchise cost
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: more to enter the league so that the other league
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: owners can pocket more revenue. That's the bottom line. It's
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: always about money. It always is. That's what sports in
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: a nutshell has become. Look at college football. It's about money.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: It's about money.
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: The ilk, like you said off the top of the show.
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: Every single sport now.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: Television contracts, they control almost everything.
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: And that is where sports fall underneath.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: The greed is just unchecked. I mean, honestly, it's just unchecked.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: It just keeps going on and on because we still
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: watch it. We still pay for it. And the television
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: networks still sign contracts to broadcast it. Up next. A
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Sunday night game is going to be broadcast on NBC, Seattle,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and Kansas City. The Chiefs are coming in 5-0. They've
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: had Kenneth Walker absolutely rolling, getting the ball at a
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: pace the Seahawks never gave him the ball over their
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: four years of having number nine in the backfield. Sam McDowell,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: a Kansas City star, has covered the Chiefs for a decade.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: He's a decade-plus. He's a National Award-winning writer, a friend
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: of mine. He's going to join us from Kansas City.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Welcome back for the second hour here at Seahawks headquarters
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: in Renton. Greg Bell, Justin McInerney is back in Elliott
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Bay Studios in foggy Seattle. The Seahawks are preparing to
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: play the unbeaten Kansas City Chiefs. 5-0, they've already had
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: their bye. And they have Kenneth Walker running wild. 665 yards,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: leads the NFL. He's getting 75-80% of the offensive snaps
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: for Andy Reid. Reid's thrown on the ball, he's caught
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Walker's caught two touchdown passes already. Walker has the most
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: rushing yards in NFL history for a player in his
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: first five games with a new team. That's opposite of
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: where the Seahawks running game is. Here to talk about
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker and the undefeated Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes has returned
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: from his own knee reconstruction and more. Sam McDowell, great
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: friend of mine. He's with the Kansas City Star columnist,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: a national award-winning writer. He's covered the Chiefs for a
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: long time through their Super Bowl heydays. He joins us
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline, I assume from Chiefs headquarters,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: which is right next to Arrowhead Stadium. I think it
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: still is, right? Good morning, Sam. Good afternoon to you.
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: Hey, Greg.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: How are you? I am okay. You know the backstory
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to that. The Chiefs are right next to Arrowhead Stadium
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: where they practice, right? Yeah, that's correct.
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: And you know right that they're starting to practice right now.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Okay. All right, well, Kenneth Walker, when they
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: signed him, the money said he was going to be
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: their guy. And the way Andy Reid uses lead running backs,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: no surprise that they would throw to him as well
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: and that he would be a three-down back. But given
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: his injury history in Seattle, the fact he was in
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: a job share with Zach Charbonnet last year that ticked
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: him off and was part of paving the way to
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: get him out of Seattle, are you surprised, Sam, that
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: he's getting 75%, 80% of the offensive snaps and is
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: this much a part of Andy Reid's offense so far?
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, not really based on training camp. I mean, look,
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: the primary backup is a fifth round rookie. So, I mean,
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: the Chiefs really just moved in a completely different direction
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: with their backfield, which was a timeshare with Isaiah Pacheco
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: and Kareem Hunt last year. And Kareem Hunt was really
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: effective at short yardage. And that's about the only compliment
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: you can say about their backfield last year. And so, like,
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: this is a drastic change, not just in production, but, like,
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: in how the production is coming. Because there are 48
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: running backs that qualify for the stat I'm about to mention,
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: which is just avoided tackles. The percentage of guys who
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: are in your way for an extra yard that you
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: avoid the tackle, whether you make a miss, whether you
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: actually break free from a guy who's got his hands
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: on you. And Isaiah Pacheco ranked 48th in that stat
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: last year, 48 out of 48. Kremont was 45 out
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: of 48. Kenneth Walker is number one in that stat.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: He was number one last year in that stat. And
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: so this is what has been missing from the Chiefs
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: offense for the longest time. And I think a lot
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: of people look and say, well, look at the running game.
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: What I look at and say, look at what it's
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: doing for their passing game because they're missing wide receivers
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: and the passing game is still affected. It's just entirely
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: different when you have a defense that actually has to
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: concern itself with what the running back can do.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, he was soft-spoken here. He didn't say a lot.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Last year, he would kind of talk to me on
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: the side when I asked him how the whole job
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: sharing contract year was going. At Super Bowl week, he
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: looked at me and said, how would you feel? And
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: that was about the end of the conversation. And I
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: knew he was leaving at that point. But how do
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: you guys find him there in Seattle, you guys and gals?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: And is he still soft-spoken or has he become a
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: big presence in that locker room or is he what
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Seattle knew him to be for four years?
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: No, I mean, he's the same guy. That's exactly how
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: I would describe him. I mean, his voice is literally quiet.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: Doesn't say much, but his teammates have really taken a
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: liking to him. And I mean, look, when he has revitalized,
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, last year the Chiefs went 6-11, but has
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: been different for three years now. I think you're naturally
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: going to be drawn to that player. But they definitely
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: seem to be drawn to the person as well. You know,
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: he sort of speaks when he feels like it's necessary,
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: but that's about all. And look, I mean, this is
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: even a good example, Greg, you know how this works
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: and a game like this, you kind of expect when
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: the media rollout starts on Wednesday, you'd like to talk
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: to a player like that. He will talk on Friday instead.
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: So it's even like, even that stuff has pushed back
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: and you know how that is. You'd like to talk
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: to those guys on Wednesday at the latest Thursday. So,
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's been great, but yeah, I mean, he's
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: not the most gregarious personality that we have in the
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: room here.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: He didn't even have a weekly here in Seattle. He
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: would just, you'd kind of get him as catch as
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: catch can at the locker room, maybe right before practice,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: and that was about it. This is Sam McDowell. He's
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: been a long time writer for the Chiefs, columnist for
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: the Kansas City Star, great friend of mine and does
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: a fabulous job, award-winning job covering the Chiefs. Is there
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: any concern about the workload? Is there any concern about injury?
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: We know that running back's the most attrited, most injured
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: position in the sport with the shortest shelf life. The Chiefs,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: are they kind of holding their breath or that's not
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: how Andy Reid thinks?
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's a couple things. I mean, one, you
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: have a quarterback, you mentioned this in your intro, who
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: was coming off of off-season knee surgery, who frankly did
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: not look great in week one in the opener. And
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: so I think the Chiefs naturally thought, hey, when is
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: it going to be more valuable to use Kenneth Walker
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: than while your quarterback is still coming back from his
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: own injury and trying to regather his own rhythm? The
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: second thing I'd say is, the Chiefs have only been
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: trailing in the fourth quarter for like three minutes all
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: year combined. And so they keep finding themselves in these
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: game states where they're, they're killing clock. They're killing, they're,
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: you know, they're holding on to leads in the second half.
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: They have not yet been all season in a pure
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: drop back and pass state where, you know, the whole
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: world knows they have to pass the ball. And so
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: therefore they're in these, like, they're not in these two
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: minute drill situations. They're not trying to come back from deficits. So,
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: The running game is what they've been using. I do
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: think that fifth round rookie, I mentioned him at Johnson
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: out of Nebraska, is a guy who will gradually become
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: more and more part of the offense as he learns
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: the offense. But this has always been something with Andy
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: Reid's offenses is it takes rookies a while to develop,
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: to learn the playbook, to learn the complications, the options
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: that come within a play. And so therefore, that's what
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: The guy they trust is number nine right now.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, is he the same Mahomes? Sunday night in Seattle,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: are we going to see the same whirling dervish and
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: running left side and running right side and throwing balls sideways?
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Has his game changed at all post-knee surgery into torn ACL?
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you'd have to watch him every play
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: every week like those of us here do to realize
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: that it's not quite the same. I think from an
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: outside perspective, you probably would think he's the same Patrick Holmes.
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: He's been not only just as effective, but more effective
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: than he's been since the 2022 season on a per-play basis.
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: But this is where I still think that's a Kenneth
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: Walker story because what the Chiefs are doing now offensively
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: might mirror some of those numbers. They lead the NFL
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: in yards per play and yards per game. So I
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: think people think, oh, well, it's Andy Reid and Patrick
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: Holmes again. Yeah, but it's different how they're getting yards,
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: which is it's a lot of play action stuff. It's
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: a lot of under center stuff. You know, last year
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: they were the second worst effective team under center. This year,
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: the second most effective team under center. It's incredible what
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: a running game can do for you. And so I
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: think he looks more effective statistically, but he would still
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: tell you he's still trying to get the complete burst
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: that he felt before the knee injury.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Is this a little earlier than, or they all, all
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: along plan that Superman would be back by week one. Yeah.
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: I think it was just like, uh, three days afterwards.
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: Uh, you know, cause he had surgery the next day. Um,
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: and it was three days later that he was like, um,
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: they sort of mapped out the calendar and the way they,
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: they often do that is they go backwards. They set
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: a target date and they go backwards from it. And
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: he said, well, put me down for week one. Like that's,
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: that's when I want to play. And, And I talked
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: to him, and at the time he had an 11-month-old daughter,
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: his third son, his third kid. And he set a
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: goal to walk before he did, his son Golden. So
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: that's just been, he will find any sort of way
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: to motivate himself that he can find. And that it was,
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: I think a lot of us here had always thought,
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: pretty lofty, but not going to bet against him.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: This is Sam McDowell, Kansas City star, calling this. He's
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: right next to Arrowhead Stadium at Seahawks at the Chiefs
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: training facility. They're practicing to play the Seahawks Sunday night
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: at Lumen Field. He joins us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Overlooked in this 5-0 start for Kansas City, I think
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: at least nationally and out here in Seattle, Sam, is
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: the defense for the Chiefs. I know the Chargers are broken.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I know they're witnessing that Mike McDaniel may be out
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: as the offensive guru in L.A. for the Chargers, but
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: they held the Chargers to six points. They've had one
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: spade of– they gave up 30 once. But other than that,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: the defense, the metrics and the numbers, they're at the
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: top of the league in yards allowed and points allowed.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: What's working for defensively where they weren't too good for
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: a couple years on that side of the ball?
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the first thing is the schedule. The
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: schedule's worked in their favor. Statistically, when you go by DVOA,
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: they've faced the easiest schedule in the league this year.
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: They will face the sixth-hardest schedule in the league moving forward.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: So there's a significant contrast in what they've seen so
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: far and what awaits them in the final 10 games. So,
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: 12 games here. So I think that's going to change
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: on Sunday. You know, they play six of their next
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: eight games on the road. They go to Seattle, then
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: they go to Denver. They have a stretch where they
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: go to the Rams, Bills, and Bengals in that.
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: It's going to get a lot harder for them. They
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: have a young defense. They're relying a lot more on rookies.
• 54:55
  Speaker 10: You know, they traded Trent Mitchell Duffy to the Rams.
• 54:57
  Speaker 10: Jalen Watson also signed with the Rams. They've got new
• 55:00
  Speaker 10: cornerbacks starting for him this year. The sixth overall pick
• 55:04
  Speaker 10: has been really good. But the pass rush has been inconsistent.
• 55:09
  Speaker 10: And as you know, I'm not educating you here, Sam
• 55:12
  Speaker 10: Darnold is a different quarterback when he's under pressure compared
• 55:15
  Speaker 10: to when he's not. So I view that as a
• 55:17
  Speaker 10: significant key in the game, whether or not the Chiefs
• 55:20
  Speaker 10: can generate pressure.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Are they worried at all about Seattle and running the ball?
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I know The league knows that Seattle wants to run
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the ball, and that's why Brian Fleury is the offensive coordinator.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: But when the Chiefs look at the running backs they're trotting,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks are trotting out, Emmanuel Wilson and George Helani
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: and Bellows Jones Jr. and maybe an incremental return of
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Zach Charbonnet. You just nailed it, I think, the pressuring
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: of Sam Darnold. But coming into this game, you would
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: think the Chiefs don't even have to worry about a
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Seahawks running game, no?
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I think has actually worked in their
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: favor when I go back to talking about the game
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: states that they've played this year where they've constantly been
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: ahead and their defensive linemen have been able to tee
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: off a little bit knowing that the pass is coming.
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: I've wanted the same thing as you, Greg, which is
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: do they just say, let's treat this like a pass
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: play and adjust later if we have to. And that's
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: the way I saw teams play against the Chiefs last year.
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: That's the way I saw teams treat Jose Pacheco last year.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: They said, we don't care if you run the ball.
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: We'll adjust once we see the ball in his hands.
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: I see teams playing against Seattle that way right now.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: The Chiefs have started with Denver, Indianapolis, which is an
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: overtime win, Miami, Las Vegas, and the Chargers, too, underscore
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Sam's point. Okay, Sam, we'll put you on the spot.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Who do you think wins and why? And what do
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: you think? You already mentioned one key, pressuring Sam Darnold,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: but what do you think the keys of the game are?
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say the other key that I look at
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: is the inverse, which is, When I mention the schedule,
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: what they really haven't faced yet is a good running defense.
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: And so you look at the ranks of the run
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: defense this year, and it's 16th, 19th, 28th, 30th, and 31st. Well,
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks are the second-best run defense in the league,
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: and you know that they're going to be amped to
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: try and not let Kenneth Walker have a 100-yard day,
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: 200-yard day, something like that. So I anticipate that the
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: key to the game is actually going to be Does
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: your play-action stuff work? You've got a team that's good
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: against the run, a team that's probably going to be
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: keen against the run. Can you get your play-action stuff work?
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: And since the Chiefs have been the best play-action team
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: in the league this year, I think there's reason to
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: believe it could. So I'm taking the Chiefs, but I
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: will say two days ago I had the opposite answer,
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: so I'm all over the place on this one.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: But I've got the Chiefs 23-20. I think that's a score-ish.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: About the area that I think is going to end
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: in the low 20s for each team. Yeah, Seahawks haven't
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: allowed a 100-yard rusher since October 24th. October of 2024,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: the streak of 35 consecutive games. That's what's on the
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: line with the NFL leading rusher, Kenneth Walker, coming in. Sam,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: we'll see you at the yard on Sunday. I hope
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: you have a pleasant trip to the Northwest, and it's
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: great that you joined me. Thanks a lot for joining us.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was good to talk to you, Greg. See
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: you Sunday.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Thank you. Sam McDowell, great friend of mine,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: longtime friend of mine, has covered the Chiefs for the
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Kansas City Star from a McClatchy colleague of mine talking
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: from Kansas City. And he stated right up front, Patrick Mahomes'
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: success nine, ten months after Denise's reconstruction, a torn ACL
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: and an LCL, is because of Kenneth Walker. He said,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: it's quote a Kenneth Walker story, the Chiefs lead in
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: yards per play, And he said it's different how they're
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: getting yards this season. Play action, under center. They've gone
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: from one of the worst teams under center in productivity to,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: as Sam pointed out, the second most effective team under
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: center this season. And his quote was, it's incredible what
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: a running game can do for Patrick Mahomes.
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and what we've seen it done here.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: And what it won't do when you don't have one,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: what it can do to your quarterback too. And he
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: nails the key to the game. Do the Chiefs even
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: pay attention? to the Seahawks running game where they spit
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: on it like the 49ers did. The 49ers, he framed
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: it in a way I hadn't thought of. We're going
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: to play the pass and pressure the quarterback and then
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: react to if you run. And that's what the 49ers did.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what San Francisco did to a lesser extent.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Denver did, but for sure the 49ers defense didn't honor
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: the run. And the Seahawks ended up getting some yards
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: and some gains doing it, and it ended up being
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: an 80-yard rushing game for Emmanuel Wilson two games ago.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: But they basically spat on it. And will the Chiefs
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: do the same thing and go after Sam Darnold? Seahawks
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: need to run the ball, period, end of story. And
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Zach Charbonnet, I don't think Zach Charbonnet is going to
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: be the knight on a white horse to come in
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: on a 20-plus carry night in his first game in
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: nine months after reconstructive knee surgery. I just don't see it.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: And Mike McDonald's trying to be somewhat revealing and honest
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: when he says he will play in some capacity if
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: this week of practices go well. His practice, first practice
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: of the week, first full practice. He practiced on Monday.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: It was a pretty light one. But the full preparation
• 1:00:01
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• 1:00:05
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  Speaker 9: To sound negative. But I feel positive about it. I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: don't know if we make the playoffs this year because
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: of our running game. But I think that's good. We
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: can get a nice running back in the draft. I'm
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: not saying Price is a bust because clearly it's too
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 9: soon to say that. But are we really going to
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 9: extend Charbonnet and look at our other options behind Charbonnet?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: So, Greg, if.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 11: You look at the franchise tag, what that was for
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 11: Kenneth Walker.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: And you compare that to one year.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 11: Of what we gave Rashid Shaheed. And we still draft
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 11: Jadarian Price because, you know, we still don't have Charbonnet back.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 11: And he's going into a contract year, so we would
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: still need a running back for the future.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: I could give a rat's ass about the NBA coming
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: back to Seattle.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of people want it.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 9: It's hard enough being a Mariner fan, and for me personally,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 9: a Cougar fan.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: I don't need any more stress with another team. So,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: love him or leave him. I'd rather leave him. He's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: not alone. About that franchise tag issue with Kenneth Walker...
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: That would go completely against what John Schneider thinks about
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: the running back position. The franchise tag value for 2026,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: which the Jets used on Brees Hall, for instance, was
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: $ 14. 3 million. $ 14. 293, to be exact. That's the money the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Chiefs gave Kenneth Walker per year. That's exactly the money
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: that John Schneider decided he was not going to invest
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: in Kenneth Walker at running back because running backs get
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: hurt and Walker has an injury history. The value proposition
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: at running back absolutely took Seattle out of the running
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: to put a franchise tag on Kenneth Walker. Now, we
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: can argue, obviously, can argue the merits of that decision
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: now with Kenneth Walker leading the NFL and rushing for
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs coming in here Sunday night and the Seahawks
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: running game in disarray. But they put all of their
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: eggs in the Jadarian Price rookie minimum salary contract basket.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: And that basket is on injured reserve. It has not
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: worked out, to say the least. But philosophically, it is
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: consistent with how John Schneider has treated the running back position.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: That's why they were never going to franchise tag Kenneth
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Walker because the cost is the same cost that they
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: declined to give him in a multi-year extension. You would
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: give him that multi-year extension because then you could defer
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: some of that salary cap hit. Remember, if you franchise
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: tag a guy, that's a guaranteed $ 14. 29 million for this year,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: whether he gets hurt or not. That's exactly opposite of
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: how Schneider thinks about the running back position guaranteeing that
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: much money. to a position and a player that's been
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: hurt that often so it's working out for the chiefs
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: it's not working out for the seahawks for sure but
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: i totally get why they did what they did and
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: again it was completely different to rashid shaheed they could
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: have done both it is not either war shaheed they
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: had the cash and cap space to both signs re-sign
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: shaheed and re-sign walker they just chose not to with
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: walker and it's biting them right now.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah i mean this is what i shoulda coulda.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Right It is, and it just is exacerbated by the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: fact of Price being on injury reserve. Yes. The caller
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: is absolutely right in saying we can't call Price a failure.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: We can't. It's way too early to say, well, he's
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: a bust. He's played three games. And, yeah, he fumbled
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: twice in two of them, but he's only played three games.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: So it's just not working out, and now we get
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: to have it rubbed in our faces when we see
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker running for the Chiefs on Sunday night. Anything
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: jump out at you at the text line, Jess? Sorry.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 7: My mic should be on for this.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: Yes. This coming from Michael. Thoughts on Jonathan Taylor as
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: a possible trade option?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Two years... Well, 27 and 28. Two years beyond this
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: one remaining on his deal.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: What would you have to give up for someone like that?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Exactly. Someone who's been an NFL rushing champion. I'm talking...
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Second-round pick, maybe? First-round pick, maybe? Now, they have 11
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: picks next year, but Schneider has not usually been in
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: the business of trading top picks unless the name was
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Jamal Adams, and that didn't work out very well. So
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: I think he'd be very reluctant to do that. I
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: really think he believes, and obviously Mike McDonald and the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: coaches believe, that Price is the answer. It's just that
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Price can't get back until next month, and what do
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: they do in the meantime? To the point about what
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks' season is, and somebody on the text line,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: I can't find it right in front of me, that
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: the season is over if they don't win the next
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: two games. Not necessarily, not really. Look at the NFC.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe the division's gone the way the 49ers are playing,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: what their schedule is ahead of them. But do we
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: really believe the Minnesota Vikings, who can barely score points,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: only 109 points in five games, are going to stay undefeated?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: They play the 49ers in a few weeks in Mexico City.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers are currently the third playoff seed because
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: they lead the NFC South, which is only slightly worse,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: not as bad, I should say, than the NFC East
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: that the Giants lead 3-2-1. And then the wildcard teams
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: are the 4-2 Packers, the 4-2 Bears, and the 3-2 Lions.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks are 3-3, a half game back of a
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: playoff spot right now. They're really competing with the Packers, Bears,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: and Lions to get into the playoffs. and then hoping
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: for an absolute pratfall or a calamity of injuries from
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: the 49ers to get back in the division race. If
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: they lose both in three and five, they're not even
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: out of it because the NFC, if you get in
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: a wild card and you can get into the top
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: one or two wild cards, you're going to play one
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: of those division, South Division or East Division champions in
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: the first round. And the Seahawks can absolutely beat the Panthers,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: the Giants, the Falcons. Whoever comes out of the East,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I would not subscribe if they lose or even 3-5
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: if the season's over with nine games left. Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, we've seen it before in the year
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: following the Super Bowl championship. Yes.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 7: We saw exactly that happen.
• 1:07:43
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  Speaker 2: real quick. Keith, for the 253 friend of the show,
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  Speaker 5: 24? 14?
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, 14.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, wait a minute. Did I miss the
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  Speaker 2: A 45-year-old Marshawn Lynch in 2024? No, that didn't happen. No.
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  Speaker 2: The only time the NBA is watched in my home
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  Speaker 2: the WNBA and NBA? Sonics are not coming back on
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  Speaker 2: a scale of 1 to 10. What are your thoughts
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  Speaker 5: Eight.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's an eight.
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  Speaker 7: They're coming back.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's all posturing. I think it's posturing and
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: It says, I'm tired of KJR wasting time on the NBA. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: What is that, cornhole? I mean, to me– Ian says
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  Speaker 2: that's cornhole.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, it is.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, I thought it was a ligament that I'm missing
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You are just playing into Adam Silver's hand by
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  Speaker 2: continuing to discuss the mythical team that may come to Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about unicorns or UFOs.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I do not blame anyone in this city
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  Speaker 2: No, they totally deserve it.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. Ian just poked his head in here to
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks Headquarters on 93.3 KJR FM. Hi, welcome back. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: And we're at Seahawks Headquarters where I guess we just
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  Speaker 2: rolled in. Ian Furness, the voice of the Kraken last night.
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  Speaker 2: And their win over, the shootout win over Detroit. What'd
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  Speaker 2: you think of that? 3-0, did you think you had
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  Speaker 2: a cruise there for the final period? And then with, what,
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  Speaker 3: I thought that it was, if they get one, could
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  Speaker 3: be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't expect Vince Dunn to have a Vince Dunn
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  Speaker 8: moment and get an assist on a tying goal with
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  Speaker 8: 16 seconds left. But, I love you, Vince, but man.
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  Speaker 8: And you know what, it's just bad balance. You know,
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  Speaker 8: I was just telling this to our buddy Tim Booth
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  Speaker 3: We were talking.
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  Speaker 8: He was at the game last night for the Times,
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  Speaker 8: and we were talking. I said, Lane Lambert actually played
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  Speaker 8: it down pretty good last night. He was pleased with everything.
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  Speaker 8: End of the day, you know who would have been
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  Speaker 8: happy with that? It's Todd Laiweke. Like, you're up 3-0.
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  Speaker 8: It was kind of a nothing burger game. Then it's 3-1.
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  Speaker 8: Then it's 3-2.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 8: The final minute and a half was great. Bad penalty call.
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  Speaker 8: staying in the seats.
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  Speaker 3: 3-0, you're leaving with 10 minutes to go.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 8: 3-2, you're sticking around. And then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 8: you don't want it to be 3-3. But you know
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  Speaker 8: what's the best possible scenario? Win an overtime or a shootout. Like,
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  Speaker 8: what the hell? And everyone's, you have a shootout, no
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  Speaker 8: one sits down. And so I guess in that sense,
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  Speaker 8: it was fine. Have they gotten better in shootouts? Have
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  Speaker 8: they worked on it?
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  Speaker 2: Because they look better.
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  Speaker 8: So Lane talked about their goalie coach, Colin Zulianello, put
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  Speaker 8: together a massive project this summer. studying goaltending tendencies and
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  Speaker 8: things like that. So instead of helping his goalies, he's
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  Speaker 8: helping his shooters. It's a pretty good story. We've got
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  Speaker 8: to do something with that on the TV side because
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  Speaker 8: it's like, yeah, they're better. Freddie Goudreau has always been
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  Speaker 8: a great shootout shooter. Bobby McMahon is pretty good. Beneers
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  Speaker 8: is pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: And, yeah, they're better. They're better in that regard. And
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  Speaker 3: Phil was great last night.
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  Speaker 2: Al Kaninsky made a point this morning to Chuck that
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  Speaker 2: now they have a full-time emergency backup goaltender. Is that true? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And that he takes time on the ice after practice
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  Speaker 2: to field penalty shots.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: He had one practice or one session where he took
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  Speaker 8: 150 shots.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how he moved the next day. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that helps. Yeah, because Joey and Phil, they're done with practice.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to take 150 shots.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good.
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  Speaker 2: Why didn't they have a full-time emergency?
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  Speaker 3: This is a new thing with the NHL. It's a
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  Speaker 3: new part of the CBA.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Every team has one.
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  Speaker 2: So they don't have a Chuck sitting in the stands
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  Speaker 2: like that dude in Toronto that got to play for
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  Speaker 8: Every team has a guy that played some level of
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  Speaker 8: high competitive hockey and is not 45 years old. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: like the case of the Kraken guys, he also works
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  Speaker 8: on the analytics side in the front office, but played.
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  Speaker 2: At Michigan State. And is he in uniform? He's in
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  Speaker 3: Or locker room, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, interesting.
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  Speaker 8: But he's there for practice. He's always the last guy
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  Speaker 8: off the ice in practice. It's a smart move. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: every team... It's like the NFL. Why doesn't every team
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  Speaker 8: not have three quarterbacks? Where's Mike Holm when he's yelling about, Yes!
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  Speaker 2: I've been busy for years! Yes. Of course, he wants
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, right?
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  Speaker 2: What are you expecting from your Cougs against Boise State?
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  Speaker 3: Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: But you've got a new quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: I'm expecting nothing.
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  Speaker 2: But you've got a new quarterback. It looks like he's legit.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he'll be competitive.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know. I got new yesterday with MK. Defense
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  Speaker 8: is good. We'll see if they can. Boise State runs
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  Speaker 8: the ball down your throat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Riley and Gaines are both really good. Not Riley and Gaines,
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  Speaker 3: but Riley and Gaines. But they're really good.
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  Speaker 2: Riley Gaines, a whole different story.
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  Speaker 7: Interesting.
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  Speaker 8: They're two running backs. They're two running backs. But, no,
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  Speaker 8: they run the ball. I mean, we're more competitive with him.
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  Speaker 8: At least we were against Oregon State. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 8: they're a long ways away. This is a lost year.
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  Speaker 8: It's been a lost three years, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: I was looking at the NFC standings today, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't subscribe to the theory that if the Seahawks lose
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  Speaker 2: Not with the wild card race the way it is.
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  Speaker 3: But division's over.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It would be. I think division's over if they lose
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  Speaker 3: this week.
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  Speaker 5: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: They'd be four back, probably.
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  Speaker 3: Four and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, four and a half counting the loss. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reality that sets in.
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  Speaker 8: You have to ask yourself, are you going to win
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  Speaker 8: the division in the NFC West with a record worse
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  Speaker 8: than 13-4?
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't look like it, does it?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: The Niners would have to lose four of 11. There
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  Speaker 2: you go. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Simple math.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm no for my math.
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  Speaker 7: You're really good at radio math, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Really good.
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  Speaker 2: What do you got today?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Jaron Reed's going to pop by.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: Talk to him about facing Kansas City. That should be fun.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, the former chief? Yes, he did. And he's studying
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker and how they're using him.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, we'll talk about that.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Sam McDowell, a friend of mine at Kansas City Stars,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: said that they're under center so much more than they
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: were last year with Mahomes. Yeah. And that they're the
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: second best team under productive under center because of Kenneth Walker.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Play action. There you go. Exactly. Play action. That's weird.
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  Speaker 2: So we've got that.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: Stuart Mandell as well. All coming up.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandell. You've got a few things to talk about
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: with him, I think. College football. It is up next
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: from Seahawks Headquarters. Jaren Reed is going to sit down
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: with them probably in, what, 15 minutes time or maybe less?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Greg and Jessamyn will do it again tomorrow.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: I'll be at Seahawks headquarters again tomorrow. Sam Darnold's press
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: conference day tomorrow on 93.3 KJRFM.