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A Second Chance at Love · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a bonus episode
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Speaker 1: of Long Story Short at the podcast. I'm Megan, I'm Wendy,
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Speaker 1: and today we're discussing a Second Chance at Love, the
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Speaker 1: very first movie in Hallmarks Spring into Love series for
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Wanted to welcome all of our new listeners.
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Speaker 1: we're loving. It's a good time, love it if you
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Speaker 1: would check those out if you are a Hallmark only listener. Wendy, Yo,
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Speaker 1: it's time for a Second Chance at Love. Yeah, do
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Speaker 1: you have a synopsis? I do? Are you ready? Alicia
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Speaker 1: and Arnold? His name's not Arnold? Is it Arnold? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I wrote in my notes Arnold, Arthur, and August. I
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Speaker 1: don't know what is going on with me, so you
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Speaker 1: will probably hear me refer to him as Arthur later
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Speaker 1: on because in my notes anyway, Okay, well, I'm starting over.
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Speaker 1: The synopsis. Alicia and Arnold's marriage is picture perfect, picture perfect. However,
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Speaker 1: Arnold is ready to grow their family, but Alicia is
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Speaker 1: hesitant to the idea. Rather than facing the problem, Alicia
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Speaker 1: sets her divorced parents each up on a blind date
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Speaker 1: dating app. This synopsis is not a true reflection of
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Speaker 1: this movie. I don't think, oh agree, I mean, those
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Speaker 1: things happen, but it should read something like Brenda and
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Speaker 1: Jack reconnect after years of doors. I don't know something, yes,
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Speaker 1: while Alicia struggles to find independence from her parents exactly now.
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Speaker 1: When we recorded our spring preview, we thought, now, correct
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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. We thought this movie was going
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Speaker 1: to be more heavily focused on Arnold and Alicia. I agree,
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Speaker 1: and I think we were wrong. Well, that's in fact
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Speaker 1: my first impression, which isn't normally now, but I will
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Speaker 1: say it now, is that I was very pleasantly surprised
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Speaker 1: by the balance of the younger and the older couple
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Speaker 1: in this movie, because I was worried that they would
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Speaker 1: lean too hard on the Alicia and Arnold's storyline, and
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Speaker 1: I felt there was a great balance and I thought
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Speaker 1: they did service to Brenda and Jack's story. I agree.
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Speaker 1: Now I want to ask you, what do you think
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Speaker 1: that the age demo is for Hallmark Channel. I don't
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Speaker 1: know the answer. I'm just asking what you're what you
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Speaker 1: think it is. I would guess that they do really
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Speaker 1: well in the like thirty five to fifty four demo
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Speaker 1: and up. Okay, So why do you think they push
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Speaker 1: movies so hard with young actors and actresses. Well, that's
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Speaker 1: not a Hallmark only thing. That is movies in general.
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Speaker 1: We hear all the time about actors age out of roles,
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Speaker 1: particularly women. So I agree that Hallmark focus is really
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Speaker 1: hard on young love, first love, falling in love, getting married,
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Speaker 1: and I loved We've been asking for this very specifically.
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Speaker 1: We use the phrase a second chance at love. I
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Speaker 1: have a note on that later. And then they called
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Speaker 1: the movie a second Chance Love. I think. I think
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Speaker 1: it's just what entertainment does. I just think that Homemark
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Speaker 1: is not serving its viewers. I agree, and I know
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Speaker 1: I've said it before, and I feel like I say
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Speaker 1: it again and again and again. But I'm out of
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Speaker 1: the season of life about getting married that first love. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: planning a wedding. I really want to watch stories, movies,
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Speaker 1: whatever where I'm at in my life. Okay, here's my
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Speaker 1: question though, Okay, do you really I do? I really do? So?
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Speaker 1: I am tired of like longing for the past days
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Speaker 1: gone by. Yes, I that's a great point, and I'm
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Speaker 1: just sitting here thinking to take a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a left turn in terms of content. You are, and
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Speaker 1: I am fans of Bravo programming m a number of
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Speaker 1: their shows, but let's take the Real Housewives specifically. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I watched the Orange County Housewives. We live in Orange County.
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Speaker 1: I don't find them at all relatable, agree, but I
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Speaker 1: find them entertaining. Maybe that's a different thing because I
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to watch the pta Moms of Central
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Speaker 1: Orange County on Bravo neither do I know? But maybe
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Speaker 1: I do want to watch a fictionalized scripted story about
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Speaker 1: real people that I can relate to. Let me talk
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Speaker 1: about that book that I read on our Pop Culture
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Speaker 1: Club episode from a couple months ago. Okay, it was
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Speaker 1: called what now It was either called the Flat Share
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Speaker 1: or it was called The Idea of You, the Idea
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Speaker 1: Yes You. And that was a story about a middle
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Speaker 1: aged not quite middle aged woman I think she's thirty
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Speaker 1: nine in the late thirties, yes, falling in love, but
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Speaker 1: like a one or twenty one year old. Hey, homemark,
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Speaker 1: make some movies like that, right, Like, it doesn't have
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Speaker 1: to be as like that book was very steamy and racy.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be that. Give me a watered
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Speaker 1: down version of that. Like I that's the kind of
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say that's the only movie I
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Speaker 1: want to watch on homework, But I want to see
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Speaker 1: a variety. I want to see a variety like show
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Speaker 1: me that or show me or you know, I want
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Speaker 1: to see you know you said, like you don't want
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Speaker 1: to watch Pta Moms of Central Orange County. Fine, but
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Speaker 1: I also don't want to watch like a movie about
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Speaker 1: a man and woman who've been married twenty years and
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Speaker 1: just struggling through the day to day. They don't have
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Speaker 1: anything to talk about anymore, No, but they can make
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Speaker 1: it a romantic story, you know what I mean? Like,
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Speaker 1: I just I just want to see some of that,
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Speaker 1: and I am glad that this movie had a little
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Speaker 1: bit of it. I agree, I was very I enjoyed
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Speaker 1: this movie. Spoiler alert. Okay, so let's get into news
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Speaker 1: and notes. You already gave your first impression, and I
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Speaker 1: will give mine after we do news and notes. Okay, okay.
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Speaker 1: This movie filmed in Canada, mostly around Vancouver. Also filmed
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Speaker 1: during late January early February, which quick turnaround, real quick. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: for the first movie in the lineup. Kind of surprised
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Speaker 1: that it had that short of turnaround. Yeah, I agree.
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Speaker 1: And they've been promoting this movie longer than the others,
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Speaker 1: which means I'm going to assume that the others had
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Speaker 1: an equally short turnaround. It's gonna be like late February
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Speaker 1: and March. This was filmed because before we got a
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Speaker 1: full Spring into Love lineup, we got the March lineup,
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Speaker 1: and the only movie that's officially part of Spring and
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Speaker 1: to Love to Aaron March is this movie right here. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a second chance I love Now. I feel like we've
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Speaker 1: talked this to death, but I would like to point
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Speaker 1: out the two of the stars of this movie, Eric
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Speaker 1: Leasal and Gloria Rubin acted together in ER. They have
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Speaker 1: not been on screen together in twenty years. That's a
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Speaker 1: long time. I was thrilled to see them back together.
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Speaker 1: I was a big er fan. Were they on in
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Speaker 1: the early days of R, like they were they original cast.
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Speaker 1: I read that Eric Lasal was in one hundred and
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Speaker 1: seventy one episodes of ER. Oh wow. I think he
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Speaker 1: sharded as like a resident or like I think he
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Speaker 1: worked his way up. I don't think he was. Maybe
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Speaker 1: I'm remembering wrong, but Eric Leasal I think was on
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Speaker 1: the majority of the time, whether he was the pilot,
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Speaker 1: he was a one hundred and seventy one episodes of VRS.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how many, how many seasons a lot
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Speaker 1: of seasons of R. I have vivid memories of the
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Speaker 1: opening of him, like sliding along the floor doing in
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Speaker 1: his scrubs doing Oh that's funny, I guess celebration. My
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Speaker 1: memory of him is he was kind of like a
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Speaker 1: grumpy Gus on that show. Yeah, but I haven't seen
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Speaker 1: it in so long. I don't know if I've reckon
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Speaker 1: that in my mind. I think he was just like
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Speaker 1: super intense about his job. Yeah, but I was happy
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Speaker 1: to see them back on screen. Together, and Eric Lestyle
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Speaker 1: himself recently signed a three book deal for a crime
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Speaker 1: thriller series. And what I liked about the story I
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Speaker 1: didn't like. Let me tell you. He submitted several book
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Speaker 1: roholess and had them refused and finally was able to
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Speaker 1: get one picked up. And I don't like that he
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Speaker 1: worked so hard. But I liked the success story. I
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Speaker 1: don't like the multiple rejections, but I liked the look
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Speaker 1: there was a success at the end of this yea
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Speaker 1: of perseverance. And I love a crime film. I know
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Speaker 1: I have a thrilled trio. They call them gritty crime
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Speaker 1: novel into it. The working title of this movie was
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Speaker 1: called I Do Again. Now, Oh, okay, I Do Again.
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Speaker 1: Here's what I think. I think someone from Hallmark is
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Speaker 1: listening to our podcast because we said specifically and if
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Speaker 1: I could go back and find the episode, I will
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Speaker 1: link it in our show notes. But I said specifically,
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Speaker 1: or we did, we want a second chance that love
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Speaker 1: stories and then wola, you guys, there's a movie called that.
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Speaker 1: It's not like those are like uncommon words. No, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna look it up. I'm gonna see if I can
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Speaker 1: find it. I know we specifically use the word second
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Speaker 1: chance love. I remember I was in my closet recording
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Speaker 1: it at a time. I remember it too specific. I
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Speaker 1: vividly remember it as well. I do. I know we
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Speaker 1: said it, and I would you know. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you remember, but we used to do I know
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Speaker 1: you remember this. But we used to do Big Brother
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Speaker 1: predictions at the beginning of every season, and then we
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Speaker 1: would do some thoughts throughout the season. And at one
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Speaker 1: point there was a cast member named Winston Yes, oh yes,
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Speaker 1: and he and another cast member were very similar. And
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Speaker 1: I in a video called he and the other cast member.
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Speaker 1: I said hashtag Twinston yes, and then they use that
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Speaker 1: on the episode. Yeah, and somebody is watching our stuff.
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Speaker 1: So that seems very That was very specific. What else
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Speaker 1: do you have for news and notes? Uh? Just a
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Speaker 1: small one. Bj Harrison was in this movie. She played
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Speaker 1: me Ma, I love Beja Harrison and I don't even
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Speaker 1: know if she had any lines in this movie other
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Speaker 1: than I'm going on a date. I got a friend
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Speaker 1: coming over. Yeah. She is just one of those Hallmark players.
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Speaker 1: You see her in so many movies, and sometimes she
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Speaker 1: has like a bigger role. Sometimes she has a small,
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Speaker 1: little role. I just I get like this overwhelming, like
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Speaker 1: feeling of like warmth and happiness when I see her.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say the same thing. I feel so
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Speaker 1: comforted when she's on screen, you know, And I'm like,
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Speaker 1: give this woman her own freaking movie. Yes, everything's gonna
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Speaker 1: be okay when I see her. Yeah, I just love her.
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Speaker 1: I love her. Tell me your first impression of this movie.
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Speaker 1: Here's my first impression. And it really doesn't have to
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Speaker 1: do with the movie. Oh, I made a real mistake
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Speaker 1: not adding Eric Lasal to my Hot Dude's list. Oh
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Speaker 1: that's a great point. Fifty nine and fine, I was
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Speaker 1: so taken with him. Does he make the list? Though?
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Speaker 1: What was our age limit? It was fifty five? Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was it fifty five or was it sixty? I
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Speaker 1: can't remember now, it had it be fifty five. Maybe.
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Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think you're right. For the
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Speaker 1: new listeners. What I'm talking about is several months ago,
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Speaker 1: we did a Hot Old Dudes, Hot Old Dudes episode
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Speaker 1: on our regular Tuesday podcast. I will leave a link
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Speaker 1: to it in our show notes, where Megan and I
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Speaker 1: shared our face writ Hot Old Dudes and we had
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Speaker 1: a threshold. I think it was sixty. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It must have been fifty five. Yeah, I think it
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Speaker 1: was fifty five because Keanu Reeves is like fifty nine
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Speaker 1: and we discussed him. Anyway, I think this is what
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking. I think we're gonna have to revisit this
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Speaker 1: topic year after year. Oh yeah, we need some sort
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Speaker 1: of March Madness type like tournament bracket. Yes, bracket I'm
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Speaker 1: making with my hands. Bracket is quite impressive. You know.
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Speaker 1: That's a that episodes is a good time, and I'll
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Speaker 1: be honest, it was more for us, like it was
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Speaker 1: a funny idea we had. We thought it would be fun.
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Speaker 1: It's a very popular episode that I was surprised by
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Speaker 1: because you never know, I thought people would be like,
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Speaker 1: give me a break, were listening to this. It was
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Speaker 1: a good time, and I think people agreed. So give
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Speaker 1: that one a listen, and Eric Lesalen needs to be
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Speaker 1: on my Indeed, I'm gonna go edit it and it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be like Eric lasal all right, let's talk about
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Speaker 1: what we liked about A Second Chance at Love. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I want to start a real surface level. Okay. I
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Speaker 1: thought this movie was visually beautiful in a lot of ways.
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Speaker 1: I loved Alicia's wardrobe throughout. I especially loved the pink
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Speaker 1: skirt she wore on her honeymoon getaway. It was just
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Speaker 1: this real bright Coraly pink rap skirt, so cute. She
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Speaker 1: had great accessories. And I loved the home that Alicia
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Speaker 1: and Arnold lived in. Real modern one hundred percent not
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Speaker 1: my style. But every time they did an exterior shot
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Speaker 1: of that house, for some reason, I felt like I
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Speaker 1: was in an episode of modern Family Oh Interest, because
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Speaker 1: that's how they would always send her where they were
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Speaker 1: is by doing an exterior shot of the family and
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Speaker 1: cam and Mitchell Mitch. I was like, his name is Jesse.
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Speaker 1: I think in real life, I think they lived. Did
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Speaker 1: they live in like a more modern house? I don't
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Speaker 1: remember anyway, Regardless, I enjoyed their home. I thought it
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Speaker 1: was really sleep and beautiful on the inside and visually. Also,
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Speaker 1: Gloria Rubin as Brenda's wedding dress. Did you clock it? No?
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Speaker 1: It was just beautiful. Oh it was pants. It was vance.
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Speaker 1: I had to rewind it, yes, because oh I just
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Speaker 1: noticed the neckline. I just thought it was kind of
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Speaker 1: casual is the wrong word. But it wasn't a classic
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Speaker 1: princess ball gown, and I just thought the silhouette. I
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Speaker 1: was like, this is a perfect second wedding dress to keep. No, gosh,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, you guys, I had to keep. And
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Speaker 1: it was pants, and it was like one hundred percent
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Speaker 1: something I would wear. I love that it's pants. That
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Speaker 1: makes me like it even more. Me too, And I
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Speaker 1: thought like, oh, did she wear pants throughout the movie?
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Speaker 1: And I was like no, just because at that last
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Speaker 1: previous scene she was in a dress. Yeah, and she's
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Speaker 1: dancing in skirts often. Yeah, it was very pretty. I'm
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Speaker 1: surprised you didn't put that on in the Did you
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Speaker 1: see that moment? What was what I liked? Okay, well, no,
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Speaker 1: it's fine. Uh. You talked about this earlier, and I
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Speaker 1: agree that. I am so happy that this movie wasn't
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Speaker 1: story heavy on Alicia and Arnold. I was because Arnold sucks.
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Speaker 1: Arnold did suck. We'll get to that, okay. And I
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Speaker 1: was like happy it wasn't like this like twist on
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Speaker 1: mingle all the way, stupid dating app nafu nonsense. I
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Speaker 1: mean it did have that, and honestly, they they didn't
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Speaker 1: even need that other than like getting them together. I
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Speaker 1: thought the app itself faded into the background, even though
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Speaker 1: the app was created by Arnold's company, Right. I liked that.
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Speaker 1: I agree that it was not a focus on look
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Speaker 1: at this new fangled app we've created, because guess what
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Speaker 1: happens when you do that? Movie doesn't age? Well, no,
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Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I love the music in this movie. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you caught it. I was like,
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Speaker 1: this feels like a very contemporary and it was. These
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Speaker 1: songs were not like made today, they were popular songs
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Speaker 1: of days ago. But I was like, hey, look at
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Speaker 1: that just the two of us when they're dancing. That's
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Speaker 1: the song they hotel. I couldn't remember, but they played
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Speaker 1: it at the very beginning too. I was just so
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Speaker 1: I just like that, especially in the opening scene. I
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Speaker 1: think they're playing just the two of us where it's
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Speaker 1: a young Alicia and she's watching her mom and dad
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Speaker 1: dance in the living room, and I just was like,
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Speaker 1: that makes me so happy, and like I kind of
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Speaker 1: wish like my own home was like that, Like, but
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Speaker 1: my husband and I dancing in the living room where
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Speaker 1: my daughter watching is not something that would ever happen ever,
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Speaker 1: But I like the idea of it. Yeah, it just
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Speaker 1: feels like warm and sweet, right, I think that was
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Speaker 1: the vibe through a lot of this movie. It felt
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Speaker 1: like a warm, happy family. Yes. So many of these
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Speaker 1: movies we have like dire, We're gonna lose the family business,
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Speaker 1: the home is being fore clothes. Yeah right, And there
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Speaker 1: wasn't any of that. Yes, there was some relationship drama.
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Speaker 1: But sometimes I get a little bit stressed out watching these,
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Speaker 1: like we're gonna lose it all. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad
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Speaker 1: they didn't. I really really loved how natural Eric and
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Speaker 1: Gloria were together, like they just fell into their like
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Speaker 1: old not roles, but like just that old chemistry that
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Speaker 1: they've had working years and years together. I just loved it.
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Speaker 1: I agree. I just watching them on screen felt so natural.
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Speaker 1: And when they see each other for the first time
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Speaker 1: in the restaurant, it felt like exactly how I would imagine.
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Speaker 1: You know, this is the reason you were married to
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Speaker 1: that you loved, and now you're out put supposedly with somebody,
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Speaker 1: yeah else running it. It's awkward, but I yeah, right,
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Speaker 1: there were some funny lines to you. We were talking
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Speaker 1: about that restaurant when they run in and they end
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Speaker 1: up having dinner and she like goes to split the
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Speaker 1: bill and he's like, he's taking me. I was thinking
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Speaker 1: a break. I ever, I just thought that was good.
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Speaker 1: One of my favorite scenes was at the very end.
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Speaker 1: It was the Christenine scene and Grandpa Jack was just
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Speaker 1: so excited for his daughter to have this baby girl,
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Speaker 1: and I just was like, oh, I love it, loved it. So,
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Speaker 1: speaking of that christening scene, one of the things that
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Speaker 1: I loved is I loved the whole flash forward element
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Speaker 1: and the where are they now? We had two concurrent
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Speaker 1: storylines happening, right, and so I liked that not only
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Speaker 1: do we get to the wedding, but then we see
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Speaker 1: at the wedding that she's pregnant, and then we flash
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Speaker 1: forward even further to the christening and everyone has a
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Speaker 1: happy ending, and they cleanly wrapped up both storylines in
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Speaker 1: a believable way. Let's talk about what we wished for.
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Speaker 1: And this is the part of the podcast if you're
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Speaker 1: a new listener, where we talk about the things that
19:52
Speaker 1: we didn't love so much about the movie. Yeah, changes
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Speaker 1: we would make if we were on the writing stuff.
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Speaker 1: Alicia needs a backbone, okay to her husband or parents
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Speaker 1: or both. I think both. But look your mother going
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Speaker 1: through a breakup. While it's nice for you to be
20:15
Speaker 1: there for her, is not a tragedy that necessitates you
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Speaker 1: inviting her on your anniversary trip away with your husband.
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Speaker 1: Never this is ever I'm gonna call you mom, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna they were going away for a weekend, not a month.
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Speaker 1: Let's have lunch when I come back, mom, not you
20:35
Speaker 1: should come with us. There's no logic in that. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I invited her to come with me. Now I thought,
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Speaker 1: Arnold suckt and I we will get to that. But
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Speaker 1: it was in this moment that I was like, what
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Speaker 1: are you doing? Well? Even the mom she'd have been like, no,
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Speaker 1: that's a terrible idea. I'm not gonna go away on
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Speaker 1: your anniversary weekend. And here's what they ignored. The mom
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Speaker 1: doesn't live alone. She lives with her mother. She's not
21:00
Speaker 1: sitting at home alone. First of all, she's an adult
21:02
Speaker 1: woman who's gone through a breakup. While she's entitled to
21:04
Speaker 1: feel sad, I don't think she needed. This is a
21:07
Speaker 1: woman who's very successful in her career, who has raised
21:11
Speaker 1: a daughter. She didn't need the coddling that Alicia was
21:14
Speaker 1: giving her right and so I think they both failed
21:17
Speaker 1: in that moment, and I really think that would have
21:19
Speaker 1: been a moment for Mema to step in and be like,
21:21
Speaker 1: what is happening? Totally, No, stay home, Totally, I do
21:25
Speaker 1: not care that she invited you. Totally, that would have
21:28
Speaker 1: been a great idea. I thought Arnold wasn't very empathetic
21:33
Speaker 1: to his wife and what she was dealing with. However,
21:38
Speaker 1: I also thought like Alicia was far too involved in
21:43
Speaker 1: her parents' lives, like it was on the day to day.
21:47
Speaker 1: I don't talk to my parents on the day to day.
21:49
Speaker 1: Neither do I, and I consider myself very close to
21:51
Speaker 1: my parents. Yeah, two a week. Two, Yeah, I'm not
21:56
Speaker 1: meeting my dad at for a run and then like
21:58
Speaker 1: badgering him over or like his recent breakup or whatever.
22:02
Speaker 1: Like no, And if your parents accidentally need on a
22:08
Speaker 1: dating app and start dating, I think it is not
22:11
Speaker 1: only okay, but perhaps preferred and what's the word beyond
22:24
Speaker 1: reasonable for them to keep that information from their daughter. Sure,
22:27
Speaker 1: many children of adult parents dream of their parents getting
22:31
Speaker 1: back together. And so if you've gone on one date,
22:35
Speaker 1: why give your daughter either false hope or false anxiety
22:38
Speaker 1: or you don't know what's happening. She's not entitled to
22:42
Speaker 1: the information about your adult dating life exactly. And the
22:45
Speaker 1: other thing is too is like they've been divorced for
22:47
Speaker 1: many years. Are we to say that they've I know
22:51
Speaker 1: that Jack obviously was like a serial dater or whatever,
22:56
Speaker 1: and didn't she say something like he always like breaks
22:58
Speaker 1: it off when it gets too close. And I don't
23:01
Speaker 1: know really about the mom, like what her dating history was,
23:06
Speaker 1: but I have to assume in all those years that
23:10
Speaker 1: they probably went out on a date or two and
23:13
Speaker 1: the daughter has been that involved every single time. Right,
23:16
Speaker 1: too much, too much, too much. So let's talk about Arnold. Okay,
23:21
Speaker 1: I think everyone in this movie could have benefited from
23:24
Speaker 1: a lesson in communication. Nobody knows how to communicate well,
23:28
Speaker 1: and Arnold was passive aggressive. Absolutely absolutely. Look, we all
23:34
Speaker 1: get frustrated with our partners. That is a reasonable thing.
23:37
Speaker 1: We get frustrated when they make decisions. But there's one
23:40
Speaker 1: point where he kind of just blows her off and
23:42
Speaker 1: is not going to talk to her about what he's like.
23:44
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. No, you say, I'm
23:47
Speaker 1: frustrated because I feel like you're giving too much of
23:51
Speaker 1: your time to your parents and I feel like we
23:53
Speaker 1: aren't spending any time together and we haven't had a
23:55
Speaker 1: chance to have a conversation. That's what you say. Yeah,
23:57
Speaker 1: I'm frustrated because I feel like we keep missing each
23:59
Speaker 1: other and bit of free time we have goes to
24:01
Speaker 1: your parents. You don't say, I don't know what to
24:03
Speaker 1: say to you. Well, okay, then there is no solution here.
24:07
Speaker 1: It was like Judy Moody in bed all by himself
24:10
Speaker 1: or you know, do you remember that scene. No, it
24:13
Speaker 1: was like dark and he was like in bed by himself,
24:16
Speaker 1: like I think she had gotten homely. Oh, and his
24:19
Speaker 1: eyes are open and he doesn't roll over and look
24:21
Speaker 1: at her. Yeah. I really was like, really, are we
24:24
Speaker 1: that mad? Sious? She's just not having an affair. She
24:26
Speaker 1: was at with her Mom's not even like she was
24:31
Speaker 1: out with like girlfriends or something, you know what I mean.
24:33
Speaker 1: She was like with her mom. Come on, and look,
24:37
Speaker 1: we are at the point. Granted I've said already none
24:41
Speaker 1: of these situations were tragic and they didn't warrant the
24:46
Speaker 1: type of involvement, but we are at the point where
24:48
Speaker 1: we do have to attend to our parents. Sometimes there
24:51
Speaker 1: are times we need to reroute. Yes, So I felt
24:55
Speaker 1: like there was no allowance for that while also feeling
24:58
Speaker 1: like Alicia went overboard agree I needed a more realistic
25:03
Speaker 1: version of why they got divorced in the first place.
25:06
Speaker 1: The story that was told was that they were, like,
25:10
Speaker 1: they were so in love, but they were so committed
25:12
Speaker 1: to their careers and their careers just like I mean,
25:16
Speaker 1: she owned a dance school or something like. And I
25:19
Speaker 1: don't even know if they established what he was something
25:22
Speaker 1: that makes him a lot of money, because apparently he's
25:23
Speaker 1: a sugar daddy to everybody. So I was like, it
25:27
Speaker 1: wasn't like they were doctors or lawyers where they like
25:29
Speaker 1: spent like hours upon hours away from the home. And right,
25:33
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's okay to say, like you just
25:37
Speaker 1: fall out of not fall out of love, But like
25:40
Speaker 1: I just thought the profession I just thought the career
25:44
Speaker 1: angle was dumb. Yes, because it was clear that they
25:52
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily fall out of love. They just stopped perhaps
25:55
Speaker 1: acting like a married couple because their time was focused
25:58
Speaker 1: on their jobs. And then they had a child who
26:00
Speaker 1: probably took a lot of their attention, which I think
26:02
Speaker 1: happens to lots of relationships. Yes, you get to a point,
26:06
Speaker 1: and for me, what I was thinking is if I
26:09
Speaker 1: were in that position. My husband's going one direction, I'm
26:11
Speaker 1: going to the other. We're both so focused on their jobs.
26:14
Speaker 1: Who has time to think about getting divorced. It feels
26:17
Speaker 1: like you just kind of keep on keeping on, especially
26:20
Speaker 1: when your kids are little. Yeah, and then maybe you
26:23
Speaker 1: look back and go, oh, what have we been doing
26:24
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years? Yeah, But to be that aware
26:31
Speaker 1: that you're headed in opposite directions and then not attempt
26:36
Speaker 1: to write the ship seems surprising to me. Yeah. They
26:41
Speaker 1: just like, all right, let's get divorced. I don't even
26:43
Speaker 1: go to therapy. Come on, And he said, I never
26:46
Speaker 1: wanted the divorce, right, So Gloria's out there, excuse me,
26:49
Speaker 1: Brenda's out there pushing for it. That didn't jive with
26:54
Speaker 1: her character in this movie. Yeah. Yeah, the last thing
26:59
Speaker 1: that bothered me was there he comes, Jack comes to
27:06
Speaker 1: the resort or wherever they're at, and they're, you know, dancing,
27:12
Speaker 1: and he's obviously very much wants to get back together
27:15
Speaker 1: with her, and she's still questioning the relationship and is
27:18
Speaker 1: it worth it and I don't know, and we need
27:20
Speaker 1: to talk, and and then he proposes and she says yes,
27:25
Speaker 1: like in a span of five minutes. Yeah, like she's
27:28
Speaker 1: obviously really concerned about Like what all this means? Dude,
27:33
Speaker 1: don't propose? Yeah, how about like, let's let's see what happens.
27:39
Speaker 1: Let's go on a couple more dates. Yeah, and see
27:43
Speaker 1: where we're at. Yeah, come on, it's time for digits.
27:47
Speaker 1: That where we poke some holes in this movie. I
27:50
Speaker 1: don't have too many pokes. I just have some funny observances. Okay,
27:55
Speaker 1: you got pokes, I gotta I got a funny observance
27:58
Speaker 1: and a little bit of a poke. Okay. Here. So
28:01
Speaker 1: early on, we see Alicia at her job and she
28:05
Speaker 1: and her work Bessie, both have clients in their chairs. Yes,
28:09
Speaker 1: and lorga bestie, appears to actually be styling the hair
28:12
Speaker 1: of the person in her chair, but Alicia is just
28:14
Speaker 1: fluffing that hair. She fluffs and she fluffs and she fluffs,
28:17
Speaker 1: and you know that this was not a one take conversation,
28:19
Speaker 1: and there's multiple camera angles. So this poor woman in
28:22
Speaker 1: her chair sits there with Alisha fluff in her hair,
28:25
Speaker 1: and I have some sensory issues. I'm sitting there thinking
28:28
Speaker 1: if I were that actress, I would be like, stop
28:31
Speaker 1: taching me, stop touching. I have two thoughts about that scene.
28:37
Speaker 1: One is the two women who are getting their hair down.
28:41
Speaker 1: The lady who Alicia was doing was fluffy. She had
28:44
Speaker 1: a pleasant face in the mirror your other lady RBF,
28:52
Speaker 1: and I could so relate to it, Like I was like,
28:54
Speaker 1: I make that face up the slot because I hate
28:56
Speaker 1: the way I look in a saloon. Of course, the lighting,
29:00
Speaker 1: I was like, ohing on so. And I also was like,
29:03
Speaker 1: I can totally picture this woman's character. There's always nothing's
29:07
Speaker 1: ever right, always upset with life. I was like, is
29:11
Speaker 1: she in a role or is she just like this
29:13
Speaker 1: damn salon lighting is not it? And then in that
29:16
Speaker 1: same scene, you were talking about how cute Alicia's clothes were,
29:19
Speaker 1: and I agree. And I didn't know she was a
29:21
Speaker 1: hairdresser until she gets to the salon and she's putting
29:24
Speaker 1: her apron on and she's in huge high heels, and
29:26
Speaker 1: I was like, she really gonna wear those high heels
29:29
Speaker 1: all day long? Behind a chair? Yeah? I mean, I
29:32
Speaker 1: guess people probably do, not my hair lady, but I
29:36
Speaker 1: guess people probably do. Yeah, I've definitely seen you know,
29:41
Speaker 1: the salon where you and I both get our eyebrows done. Yeah,
29:44
Speaker 1: that place is full of cute stylists. I bet they're
29:47
Speaker 1: wearing heels. They probably are. I thought Alicia was dressed
29:52
Speaker 1: more like well, a creative, but in an office space
29:59
Speaker 1: in a salon. I would like to say more about
30:02
Speaker 1: her job, and I don't want stylist to come for me. Okay.
30:06
Speaker 1: Alicia spends a lot of time talking about how she
30:09
Speaker 1: just can't get away from work. She can't get away
30:11
Speaker 1: from work. How can we plan a weekend away? I
30:14
Speaker 1: can't get away from work. Girl, You set your own schedule,
30:17
Speaker 1: take some time off. I cannot take an appointment that
30:20
Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday because I'm going away with my husband.
30:23
Speaker 1: Work on a day that you don't normally work, work
30:26
Speaker 1: a little late one night so you can take a
30:27
Speaker 1: night off. I'm not saying stylos aren't busy. If you're good,
30:30
Speaker 1: you probably are quite busy. Right, But did you see
30:34
Speaker 1: the house they lived in. They did not appear to
30:37
Speaker 1: be in financial dire straits to where her taking a
30:40
Speaker 1: day off would have been financially troublesome. Well, that's funny
30:45
Speaker 1: that you mentioned that, because when they had Alicia and
30:49
Speaker 1: Arnold had like another couple over for dinner, and the
30:53
Speaker 1: dude was talking about like what he did for a job,
30:56
Speaker 1: and then Arnold got a little bit like about what
31:00
Speaker 1: he does for work, and it kind of made it
31:06
Speaker 1: seem like not that they were struggling, but like he hadn't,
31:10
Speaker 1: like he wasn't making millions off of his app or whatever.
31:14
Speaker 1: Maybe she's got daddy's money, daddy money, totally what else
31:19
Speaker 1: you got? Matthew James Dowd and he plays Rob Staples
31:24
Speaker 1: in this movie, and he's an instructor at the dance school.
31:27
Speaker 1: Can I interrupt you? Yes? Is mister Staples the worst
31:30
Speaker 1: name for a dance instructor you've ever heard? Mister Staples? Yeah,
31:37
Speaker 1: that's awful. Okay, that's awful. Anyway, they have a scene
31:40
Speaker 1: where like Brenda is critiquing like his dance or whatever,
31:43
Speaker 1: and he's dancing like he's like making zigs his arms.
31:49
Speaker 1: So I don't even remember that interpretive ballroom dance yet,
32:00
Speaker 1: like over and over and then she was like, Okay,
32:03
Speaker 1: we'll come back to that or whatever I do. She
32:05
Speaker 1: was interrupted, Oh, it's because Jack came with the flowers. No,
32:09
Speaker 1: that's not when I know, because when Jack comes with
32:11
Speaker 1: the flowers, there they were dancing arm in arm. Yeah,
32:14
Speaker 1: I don't remember I don't. I did feel like the
32:16
Speaker 1: mister Staples storyline was odd and not fully realized because
32:19
Speaker 1: I thought maybe we were supposed to think that that
32:22
Speaker 1: instructor had a crush on Brenda. Yeah, but it was
32:26
Speaker 1: not fully fleshed out, and so maybe he just existed
32:29
Speaker 1: as they had to set him up as someone for
32:32
Speaker 1: Jack to have a reaction to. Yeah, And that was
32:35
Speaker 1: so dumb too, because obviously she probably owned the school
32:40
Speaker 1: or was a professor of dancer. Gonna dance with people's
32:44
Speaker 1: gonna dance with people. It's not like he walked in
32:47
Speaker 1: on them in bed together. I was like, that's what
32:50
Speaker 1: they do for a professor in the middle of the school,
32:53
Speaker 1: all the lights are on. She's like running out. It's
32:56
Speaker 1: not what you think. Yeah, dumb, dumb, dumb dumb. At
33:02
Speaker 1: the end, when they're at the resort and Jack asks
33:04
Speaker 1: the DJ to play their song, they start dancing and
33:07
Speaker 1: then like they're like, let's go for a talk. It
33:08
Speaker 1: was like twenty seconds of like, yeah, you just made
33:11
Speaker 1: them change the music just for you, finish it out exactly,
33:14
Speaker 1: and he's like, Oh, we gotta go talk. We gotta
33:16
Speaker 1: go talk. When Eric lies out as Jack proposes did
33:22
Speaker 1: you see the tear come down his face? I did,
33:25
Speaker 1: and it looked real like it splashed off the side
33:28
Speaker 1: of his gen too, and she It was kind of
33:30
Speaker 1: a funny scene because she wipes it and she must
33:35
Speaker 1: say something to him because he starts laughing and like
33:38
Speaker 1: grabs like her hand or something like that. And I think,
33:42
Speaker 1: like we caught, like uh or not? We the movie
33:46
Speaker 1: people caught like an actual real scene bts too and
33:50
Speaker 1: it just looked like fun and jovial and they're like, oh,
33:52
Speaker 1: we're gonna use it. But I was like, why is
33:55
Speaker 1: he crying? Like for real in real life? Yea, Like
33:58
Speaker 1: as an actor was like the scene, I'm gonna cry
34:00
Speaker 1: in this scene. So do you Did you notice the
34:04
Speaker 1: light on her ring in the ring box? I did, so.
34:08
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still a thing. When I
34:11
Speaker 1: got engaged, that was like that was a thing. There
34:14
Speaker 1: was a light in your ring box, which is very cool.
34:16
Speaker 1: But I was what I thought was interesting is I
34:19
Speaker 1: just assumed these are all prop rings and they've got
34:20
Speaker 1: ring boxes lying around because the battery dies on that light. Oh,
34:25
Speaker 1: so I was like, did they go get anew because
34:28
Speaker 1: it just seemed like nobody would have noticed if there
34:31
Speaker 1: was no light in the ring box right exactly, So
34:33
Speaker 1: I just bumped on it. I'm like, oh, is the
34:35
Speaker 1: brand Ney box? Yeah? And I did think for like
34:38
Speaker 1: a quick second, like I was like, is this movie
34:40
Speaker 1: brought to us by Diamonds USA? Whatever? I couldn't even
34:45
Speaker 1: think of like a jeweler. But yeah, I was like
34:47
Speaker 1: waiting for like you know, like Marcus begins with K,
34:51
Speaker 1: like you know, like I'm a bachelor where it's like
34:53
Speaker 1: this is a Neil Laye diamond and it fully says
34:56
Speaker 1: Neil lane on it or whatever, but I don't think
34:58
Speaker 1: it was. This is my last note and it's a
35:01
Speaker 1: dumb one. It's a throwaway. But at the beginning, when
35:05
Speaker 1: Alicia and Arnold are in their house and they're like
35:08
Speaker 1: getting ready to leave for the day, she's making us
35:10
Speaker 1: smoothie and she puts like a smoothie and like a
35:13
Speaker 1: big like what I would drink water out of. Yeah,
35:17
Speaker 1: And she's pouring the smoothie out and she leaves about
35:21
Speaker 1: like an inch left of smoothie and like just in
35:24
Speaker 1: the blender. Yes, And I was like, that's gonna be
35:27
Speaker 1: so gross when she gets home, Like that's just the
35:30
Speaker 1: thing that's why I don't make smoothies because I don't
35:31
Speaker 1: want to clean up that and I don't want to
35:33
Speaker 1: put it in an insulated thing where like straw gets
35:38
Speaker 1: all gunked up, Like no, why she should have just
35:42
Speaker 1: been eating a bowl of cereal or something like make
35:44
Speaker 1: it easier. Smoothies are too messy. Totally all right, it's
35:49
Speaker 1: time to rate this movie. Did you remember to give
35:52
Speaker 1: this movie a rating? I did. I would like you
35:55
Speaker 1: to hold up your fingers on a count of three, okay,
35:57
Speaker 1: a one, two, three, double four stars for stars, for stars,
36:04
Speaker 1: look more movies with a mature cast. I'm into it.
36:09
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good movie, A good, solid
36:12
Speaker 1: movie to start out the Spring. Agree, nice strong foundation.
36:16
Speaker 1: I think they've got a lot of good things coming.
36:19
Speaker 1: They at least have a lot of good actors cast.
36:22
Speaker 1: So but this is this is setting the bar really high.
36:26
Speaker 1: And that's four out of five. It's a five star
36:28
Speaker 1: movies very hard, but a four star movie is a
36:30
Speaker 1: great movie in my opinion. Now I got to inject
36:35
Speaker 1: a note here. Yeah. On our Spring into Love preview,
36:40
Speaker 1: we talked about next weekend's movie because there was no
36:43
Speaker 1: details about it, just one kiss. It's stars Santino what's
36:48
Speaker 1: his last name? Fontana? And like I mentioned before, he
36:53
Speaker 1: did the audio voice of the character Joe in the book.
37:00
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you every time, like I saw the commercial,
37:03
Speaker 1: I just close my eyes and all I see is
37:05
Speaker 1: Joe from that book. Now, if you haven't read that book,
37:09
Speaker 1: Joe's a bad guy. Joe is a bad guy, but
37:11
Speaker 1: he's he's a desirable bad guy. Yes, and then so
37:15
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see this movie because I just
37:17
Speaker 1: want to hear this guy sing and talk the entire time.
37:22
Speaker 1: And then we also talked about the Royal movie. Yes,
37:26
Speaker 1: that had no details to it, right, and what's it called?
37:30
Speaker 1: A royal runaway romance? I gotta say the previously looked
37:33
Speaker 1: pretty decent for it. Wendy, who dog royal movies? I know,
37:37
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I don't like royal movies and
37:41
Speaker 1: I have very low expectations, but I thought the commercial
37:44
Speaker 1: looks okay for it. Well, I'm excited to hear that. So,
37:48
Speaker 1: as we said, next week is just One Kiss, which
37:52
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a musical. We've got Broadway stars.
37:56
Speaker 1: Santino Fontana, in addition to being a audiobook voice actor,
38:00
Speaker 1: is also a Broadway star as is Christa Rodriguez. I
38:05
Speaker 1: am excited for this. I do think it could go
38:07
Speaker 1: either way, but I am excited for a little bit
38:10
Speaker 1: of a twist. Yeah, give me more. So of course
38:13
Speaker 1: we will be back for that, and don't forget to
38:15
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38:18
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38:21
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38:25
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