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Wes Luster on Creativity, Podcasting, and the Journey from Biology to Artistic Entrepreneurship · The Scene Projects

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  Today, we're honored to have Wes Luster, a visionary artist, musician, and visionary
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  behind Integrated OKC.
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  Wes blends folk art, portraiture, and music to explore identity and heritage, all while
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  championing BIPOC communities.
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  Get ready for a deep dive into his creative world and powerful storytelling.
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  Musicians, comedians, and artists from across the Midwest.
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  Become part of our community and support local art wherever you are.
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  Welcome in to another exciting episode of the scene.
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  I'm your host Bubba Starts, and with me today is Wes Luster.
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  Wes, welcome to the show, brother.
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  Thanks, Bubba.
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  I appreciate it, man.
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  Thanks for thanks for having me on.
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  Yeah.
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  I feel like this has kinda been a long time coming.
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  Huge fan of what you're doing down there in Oklahoma City and a big fan of your art too.
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  We can see some of that behind you there on the wall.
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  Before we get into all the things that you're up to now, kind of reinvigorating the
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  integrated OKC programming, let's talk a little bit about your backstory and kinda bring us up
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  to date.
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  Well, man, I guess I guess to get started, I was an artist from a very young age.
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  So I kinda always had a pencil in my hand.
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  You know?
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  Doodling while the teacher was talking, definitely was a doodler.
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  You know?
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  Always into, like, anime illustrations, cartoons, stuff like that that kinda inspired
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  me, comics.
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  And so I kinda just made a promise to myself to never not do that.
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  So, I've been doing that ever since that time.
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  I was selling artwork to my teachers in college.
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  I have a degree in biology.
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  So, I went to Rose State, then Oklahoma State University, and, saw that I you know, even
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  though I hadn't had a degree, I was already making money in the artwork.
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  It was something I was passionate about.
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  So I just have kept doing that regardless of anything else.
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  Nice.
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  So even though you have a degree in biology, which most people wouldn't really relate much
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  to the art world, I'm sure that degree kinda helps you when you talk about, you know,
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  drawing the human form or animal forms and things like that.
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  This intimate knowledge of, I'm sure, anatomy as well kind of helps inform your artistic
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  expression too, I would assume.
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  I mean, it definitely helps out in a like, in a mind space way where, yeah, it feels like I'm a
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  little bit more well rounded where, you know, I kinda have that science, and it's like a
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  different part of my brain as opposed to the artwork.
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  So, you know, I think I have ADHD really bad.
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  So being able
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  to switch gears like that really helps me, live.
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  Honestly, what artist doesn't have some form of the attention or or whatever you wanna call it?
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  I call it a superpower, man.
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  My ADHD, I've never been diagnosed, but, I mean, you can look around my office and watch
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  me work as I'm producing the show in the background and doing all, like, I've I've
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  finally found something that works with me and that I can wield that kind of different brain
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  chemistry that I have as a true weapon and as a superpower rather than a detriment.
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  Right.
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  Exactly.
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  I mean, even playing guitar and singing.
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  Right?
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  Like, all your everything's moving at the same time and the brain is firing.
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  I'm like, I almost need that in my daily life.
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  Can you kinda speak to that in the art world by working in the same way?
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Absolutely.
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  I mean, if you think about it, if you're an artist and this is kind of the the source of my
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  podcast integrated OKC as well is that I talk to artists, musicians, and entrepreneurs.
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  Because if you're an artist, you're also an entrepreneur.
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  You kinda can't get around having to be able to run a business and do the art unless it's just
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  a hobby.
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  But, you know, for me, it's not just a hobby.
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  It's a passion as well as a business.
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  And so at times, I have to look at it that way, and, you know, that requires you to jump from
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  being a CEO to producer and also the r and d, your own research and development.
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  You have to be your own marketer as well as your own salesperson and your own social media
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  person as well as your own editor.
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  And so you're wearing all these different hats and, like but it's fun.
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  Yeah.
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  Not only are we, like, wearing them, but we're exchanging them rapidly.
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  Right?
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  And we're wearing sometimes six of them stacked on top of each other, and, I I I feel you.
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  Right.
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  I mean, it it also helps a lot, like, when I'm thinking about how I can be more productive or
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  how I can work with what I have because of, like, the science brain has kind of taught me
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  to understand some words and some ideas that probably would trip up a lot of people who
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  just, like, you know, haven't dealt with it.
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  And so, say, for example, not knowing that people don't really multitask, they they just
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  switch.
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  Like you said, we switch the hats over and over in different ways and but you're only work
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  you're working on one at a time.
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  So that really helps me is, with my ADHD that I'm gonna work with one thing at a time until I
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  kinda get as close as I can.
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  And then, you know, I'm switching to another thing to focus on because when we try to do too
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  much at once, your brain kinda just gets frazzled, and you don't get anything done,
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  really.
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  Right.
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  You well, you never complete anything.
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  You get a lot of work done, but nothing gets completed, so it looks like nothing's actually
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  gotten done.
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  And that's really for myself is seeing things through.
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  Right?
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  I can do five things at once, and we're always and in this world now, you're taking in so much
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  information.
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  I mean, I had eight tabs on this browser open right now.
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  And and any one of them can go off and distract you and take you down something.
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  But you have to be able to prioritize those things and to go, hey.
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  That thing can wait.
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  Put the phone on DND.
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  Right?
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  And let it alone and kind of put at least one of the distractions down and focus on what
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  you're doing.
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  For me, podcasting has really made that possible to to just sit down and to have
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  conversations instead of being distracted.
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  Right?
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  I I I kinda turn everything else off when we're recording, and it's just me and you having a
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  conversation or whoever I am, you know, three, four times a day that I'm sitting down to do
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  interviews, it seems like lately.
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  And, I can just really dial in on that conversation for the moment.
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  Even though I may be, you know, producing the show in the background, it's not necessarily
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  distracting me and taking my focus away from what's right in front of me.
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  Right.
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  And and you probably have your workflow too.
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  You know?
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  You've been doing this for a fair amount.
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  I don't know how many episodes you have yet, but, you know, you you have your way of setting
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  things up and knowing where things are.
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  So, like, you know, it's like every episode, you get to spend more time having the
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  conversation and less time puddling with all the rest of the crap that
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  you have around.
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  Man, StreamYard's been a game changer for us.
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  We just moved over here.
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  I got in the program a while back, but I never used it.
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  I never really had the the reason to.
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  I was doing most of my podcast episodes audio only and just kinda getting on the phone with
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  my friends, and that's really how our first 100 episodes last year started.
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  We just started in March, April 2024.
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  So timeline wise, we haven't necessarily been at this for a long time, but I've spent most of
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  my life now on stage doing everything in a live capacity.
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  Right?
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  Playing live performances and and setting up, producing the shows, managing the band on
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  stage, guiding everyone through the song.
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  So I already had a lot of experience in the the multitasking of production.
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  And as we've moved through the last, oh, nine nine months or so that we've moved into the
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  YouTube space, started recording on mostly Zoom where it was really simple and, just really
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  unlocked, StreamYard the last two weeks where now I can fully produce the show because I hate
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  editing, Wes.
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  That's really what it comes down to is that, I don't wanna sit behind the scenes after the
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  show is done and watch it three times and then do all that.
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  Like, no, man.
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  It's already over and done with.
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  Let's just run it out there and get it scheduled, and that's how we've been able to,
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  you know, get over 250 episodes out in a year and a half.
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  And when I was at podcast movement, we were talking about that down in Dallas last month
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  that it people were blown away.
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  They're like, oh my god.
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  How can you do that?
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  And it's like, well, when you sit down and this is all that I do.
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  I mean, it's not all that I do, but it's the podcast and our network and growing this
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  business because I've always thought of it that way.
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  It was never some kind of pet project.
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  Oh, I'll do this podcast as a lead generator for my other business.
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  It was like, no.
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  We're building a podcast that is itself a network of of its own plus every other show
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  that we want to and every other avenue that we want to go in can be a a show and a network of
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  their own.
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  So I had a very, like, 10,000 foot view of it early on, and it was just a matter of
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  establishing the different properties.
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  Sometimes it was just putting a name and grabbing the YouTube space and letting it sit.
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  Right?
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  And then others have completely, you know, kinda taken over and run it, the scene
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  projects, obviously, because of my position in the art world and in the music spaces.
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  Right?
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  I had a lot of people to go to already.
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  But now, you know, with the advent of our Patriot Broadcasting Network last November, I
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  kinda built it early knowing that I wanted to talk about some political things and to share
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  some of those stories that didn't necessarily fit in the scene projects box.
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  Right?
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  Right.
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  But when I have because I've established this and we've been running a Facebook page for a
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  while, now I've interviewed several state representatives.
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  I've interviewed a US congressional candidate here in South Dakota, and people are coming to
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  us with their stories that don't necessarily fit the TSP model, but they're they're perfect
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  for this other kind of news and and supporting the little man.
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  Right?
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  Like, that's what I'm all about is personal property rights and and just stories about how
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  how the government has kind of oppressed us as people and bringing that to the forefront.
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  And lately, it's really picking up some traction, and I and I shoot at least one of
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  those episodes now a week where I maybe went six months without doing any.
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  Right?
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  So it's having the properties that I can slowly fill up with things.
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  And right now, scene projects episodes are scheduled out three to six months.
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  That's awesome, dude.
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  Okay.
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  Trying to get there right now.
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  I'm the only one working on my podcast because, you know, it's interesting how, like, you know,
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  you came from a 10 foot thousand or 10,000 foot, view.
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  And I just was like, okay.
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  I have this idea.
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  I'm into music, and I'm into art.
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  So we're gonna start there.
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  And I have this vast network of artists and musicians.
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  So to me, it kinda felt like a Wellspring type of content, you know, Evergreen because, like,
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  it's it's all about stories.
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  It's all about experience.
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  It's, you know, the business that people end up going through and hearing how they navigate
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  those things.
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  And so then that can be something that's helpful to other artists and helpful to other
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  musicians or other creative entrepreneurs who are out here, you know, trying to do and live
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  their dream out.
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  And there's not always, like, a guidepost for how to do that.
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  No.
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  And because it's such a new media, I know podcasting has been around for a long time, but
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  people didn't know what it was, right, until maybe the last twelve to twenty four months,
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  right, and maybe a little bit longer than that.
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  But, anyone who's on YouTube with a show, that's a podcast.
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  Right?
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  So you have all of these things.
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  And when Elon Musk came out last October and was like, we are the media now.
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  I was like, oh, he's talking to me.
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  He's talking about me and what I'm doing and that eventually, you know, I don't know that
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  we'll ever get to millions of followers, but people already come to us for their
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  information.
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  Right?
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  We are trusted in our field to deliver this information.
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  And the longer you go about doing these things, the more people are going to trust you.
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  Now we don't have any advantages working for us.
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  I'm not friends with Joe Rogan.
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  I I am not covering, and I don't have access to high profile individuals that are coming on the
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  show and then are able to to roll those things.
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  Where I try to to work in is is to shine a light in the dark corners of it.
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  Right?
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  We're out here in the Midwest.
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  We're all about Midwestern artists and musicians.
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  And that's what really drew me to your show in the first place was seeing someone that was
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  doing essentially the same thing that I am.
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  Even though you had your own career, you were willing to turn that camera around and to turn
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  that spotlight onto your guests who were also working in the same field as you and realizing
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  that it's not competition.
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  It's all about collaboration.
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  Exactly.
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  A thousand percent.
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  And, I guess I never really thought about that where it's like, oh, you're glazing your ops.
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  Like, no.
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  That's not even how I see it.
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  You know, I'm not, it's it's totally a collaborative operation because when you try to
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  compare multiple artists to each other, you kind of can't because we all come from
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  different backgrounds.
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  We all come from different perspectives, different inspirations, and guideposts as
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  artists ourselves.
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  So we're all coming from completely different universes.
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  All that is completely up to the market as to how subjective the art they're gonna connect
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  with is.
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  And so to me, it can even be a competition.
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  Like, maybe between me and, like, their portrait artist.
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  That, like, would be, like, the closest competition because we're, like, so deep in the
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  same niche.
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  But, you know, even if you look at this is one of my pieces called Oshun.
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  It's one of my friends.
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  I personally know him, Javier Navarret.
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  He is a dope Afro Cuban drummer in Oakland.
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  And I I he's like, you know, I cancel out a music camp in California called Jam Camp West.
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  So this will kinda pick some energy just from the camp and every during the week.
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  And it's not exactly the same thing like it's very impressionistic, very expressive.
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  And so, like, I'm in my own niche even with the portraits.
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  So it's something that I think can be shared.
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  And like I said, the podcast is a Wellspring type idea.
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  There's so many artists that we could talk to, and there's so many talents.
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  It's been very inspiring for me personally to see what everybody is, like, doing the stories
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  and the places that they've been.
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  You know, it's kinda crazy.
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  No.
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  I I feel you, man.
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  A 100%.
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  And having done, you know, close to 300 interviews at this point and not
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  Which is insane, by the way.
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  Congratulations.
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  That's crazy.
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  Well, I just I love having conversations and meeting new people.
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  Right?
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  So thank god that I finally found podcasting as, somewhere to play around in.
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  And, finding out how that makes money, not just for myself, but for other podcasters on our
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  network now, we have, several now other hosts that, you know, collaborate with us on some
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  shows, but they have their own shows that are featured on the network.
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  And instead of everyone being out there trying to grow their own YouTube channels, which we
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  are independently as well, that we're kinda putting it out all under the one umbrella, at
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  least the long form episodes and some of the shorts, because we're using some really
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  powerful AI software to edit and and to release our stuff.
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  Shout out to podcast.ai for everything that they've done for our business to where we were
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  able to rapidly accelerate our views.
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  I mean, we went from a few thousand views in March to over 230,000 views now on our YouTube
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  channel, which just began in January.
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  And some people have been, you know, kinda toiling at the YouTube game for ten years not
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  knowing what to do.
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  And what I say that we our mission is is to shorten that learning curve.
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  Come be a part of the network.
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  Let us teach you what we know and using things like our Midwest original music organization,
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  Facebook group, and the Midwest podcasting network and organization groups on Facebook to
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  grow that community.
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  And then as people are ready to kinda get off the sideline and into the game, that we're able
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  to accelerate their timeline faster than they could ever figure it out for themselves.
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  And even, you know, the the most, the smartest, you know, YouTube searcher to to find what you
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  need to do, to be able to find all the information and implement it at the same time,
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  and find the right programs and to find the the different communities to be inside of, they
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  it's time consuming.
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  So we're trying to shorten that time gap, bring people up to speed as fast as we can, and
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  really be able to launch, you know, what I say is a million podcasters in my life, because I
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  believe that podcasts are how the world is changing.
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  I believe that's how God is changing the world or the universe or whatever you wanna call it.
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  I believe that these conversations are how we get there.
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  Right?
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  So we're we're building the road map for for how we get better.
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  It's definitely a a great way to kinda break into, spaces where people are already working
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  or just, like, thinking about things.
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  You know, it's a great way to bring in thoughts and ideas that aren't being spoken about most
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  of the time.
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  So like I said, it just depends on what your focus is.
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  You know?
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  It sounds like you guys are doing a great thing over there.
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  I hope to expand my podcast out to different states as well.
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  I mean, I have people who are already down, like, some people who are within the Burning
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  Man community to do insanely large cultures, like, of the artists, people I know that are
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  connected to that.
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  So, you know, there's a lot of very interesting people in the world doing very, very different
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  art, and I feel that affecting me as well as the people who you know, they message me after
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  episode comes out and say, like, if that really helped me think about something with my
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  business as it relates to art.
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  So that feels really good.
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  And even though it's just me doing all the editing and trying to figure it all out, I'm
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  lucky that I have a background in a lot of it.
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  Right.
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  And that's definitely where I because I didn't come from that editing and having a lot of
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  technical ability background, like, the editing process took me forever to the point where I
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  was just like, I'm done.
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  Everything's going out raw at this point.
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  I don't even care.
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  And like I said, very thankful for a program like StreamYard, which we we pay for.
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  Right?
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  Like, we pay for it in the network to have it.
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  But then I'm able to produce everything and get a much higher production value without having
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  to go in the background and to do a lot of stuff that I just don't like spending time.
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  I much rather spend time having conversations, and that's why I do, you know, 12 to 16
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  interviews a week.
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  Right.
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  I mean, that's insane, dude.
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  I it'd be cool if I could do that.
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  You know?
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  I just I had a different idea.
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  Like, I I I'm an artist.
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  Right?
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  So when I have an idea for something, it's gonna be huge.
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  Like, I came up with this idea for the podcast, like, right before, like, our lockdown.
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  You know?
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  And I was still living in California at the time.
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  And, I, you know, I had this idea for kinda, like I said, a talk show that's kind of a mix
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  of a tiny desk because I'm talking to musicians.
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  And, you know, if they wanted to, they could do a performance after the interview.
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  So, my first episode that came out was Olivia Comachie.
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  She's a amazing native American musician, multi instrumentalist.
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  You know, she did a great show at the very end of it.
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  And, like, you can actually see me in the mirror in the house, like, it's the Airbnb that
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  I'm recording in, and I'm just jamming in the background, like, listen to the audio because,
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  you know, I play guitar too.
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  And, you know, so I'm I'm into the audio video.
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  You know, I can do the editing of both.
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  So I'm over there looking at the audacity because it's an open source free program and
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  jamming and, like, it was so cool to be able to actually that was three years later.
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  I didn't do it.
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  You know, I was saving up and buying equipment, like a little GoPro, you know, the s m seven b,
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  just whatever equipment I had and pulled it together and, you know, it's been crazy to see
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  it come together.
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  But I actually had a good break.
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  Yeah.
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  Well and and that's what we can kinda get to because I I, you know, I I think I've been
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  following or at least I saw your show at least over a year ago kinda through different
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  networks and looking around.
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  But even that episode was a few years old at that point, but I loved the concept.
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  And it wasn't just the production value.
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  Like, the space was awesome.
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  The Airbnb was super cool.
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  The content of the interview was awesome and having her perform and, like, about the concept
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  was great.
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  But, yeah, moving and and other things.
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  Right?
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  Being in the lockdown, like, it kind of puts you on a hiatus.
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  And now you're just really getting back into releasing episodes and recording episodes.
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  Tell us a little bit about, maybe some recent guests that you just had or any kind of new
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  things that you're bringing to the table now, with the reboot here.
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  Well, nowadays, I I know that I'm bringing a whole lot more of my network.
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  Like, just I'm a whole lot more confident now than I was even then, and, my foresight a
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  little bit for who to bring on, when, and how is, I feel like, more strategic.
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  So the building that I'm recording in right now, it sits right across the street from the
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  Oklahoma City Bong Memorial Building, like the, the Memorial Building.
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  And so you can actually see it in in my new shots that if you look on there, you see the
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  new space.
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  And I have a family member who's actually a firefighter on the day of.
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  And so this year, I decided to bring on key people as well as art musicians and
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  entrepreneurs.
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  And, you know, in effect, maybe we could integrate OKC even more where artists now
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  directly, you know, seeing and tied to these other people as well.
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  And so but maybe that's a good example of utilizing my network in a different way where I
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  see an opportunity.
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  Like, that's kind of a I feel like that's a huge thing.
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  You know?
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  And he said he would do it just because, you know, of his relationship with me.
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  So it feels like a very special thing to have a conversation about, you know, maybe what was
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  that like for him as somebody who supported a lot of people on a very, very horrible day in
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  Oklahoma history, like, you know, United States history.
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  So it's great.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, the moment in city's history.
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  Right?
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  I I mean, it's hard for anyone not to think of that.
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  And what a great thing to have as as the backdrop to a a show named Integrated OKC.
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  Right?
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  And a show that's looking to rebuild the legacy of the city, and honoring those, honoring those
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  people who who were killed that day.
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  And and, you know, a a big shout out to your family member for for their work, and I'm sure
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  what they've endured.
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  I love that you're willing to have, some of these people on and to talk about that and to
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  to stretch outside of the art community.
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  There there's a lot of great stories out there, just of I don't wanna say regular people.
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  Right?
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  But people that are outside of the the artistic side that have a story to tell.
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  And it's, it's important.
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  Like, everyone's story is important.
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  It's lovely that we can get on and we can support our artists and give them a chance to
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  promote their their art and and, you know, their music.
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  But to get other stories out there and to be able that maybe nobody's heard.
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  Right?
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  And and even if nobody's watching, now there's at least an archive of this.
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  And maybe it will be their children or their children's children, hopefully, that will be
• 24:40
  able to return to this and hear something maybe that they would never be comfortable telling
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  their their grandchildren about.
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  Right?
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  And sharing these stories and and getting to know the people, you know, that they love.
• 24:52
  I talk about it all the time that, like, this is my legacy for my children as well.
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  They're gonna get to know me, much more through the show than being their dad because I'm not
• 25:03
  dad when I'm here talking to you.
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  Right?
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  It's a different Bubba that's that's stepping up to the plate here.
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  So, yeah, I love what you're doing, man, and love the look of the how high up are you?
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  I'm sitting on the ground right now, actually.
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  What do mean?
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  No.
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  No.
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  No.
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  I meant, when you're filming.
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  What what floor are you on?
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  Sixth Sixth Floor of the building.
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  It's it's a really cool view, man, and that's the first thing that caught my eye as you
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  rebooted and put the episode.
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  I was like, oh, new studio space and really love the aerial view, and you can see
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  everything out there too.
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  It's not necessarily just getting washed out.
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  Or you could have closed the blinds and say, hey.
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  We're not gonna show that.
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  Right?
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  But you decided not to, and you made a creative decision to showcase that memorial, and I think
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  that's just so cool.
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  Thanks, man.
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  I mean, because it's like you have a unique opportunity to do that.
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  And, again, it's like, what's your focus or how do you execute what it is that you're trying to
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  do?
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  And so I kind of always try to, execute with a fair amount of intention, you know, so that,
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  like, you know, I feel like the effect effect can be or the impact can be maximized.
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  And just really utilizing the position that I have, and the position that I'm creating
• 26:20
  because it's definitely still a building podcast.
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  You know?
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  I haven't even monetized it yet.
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  I'm, like, at a 167 subscribers, you know, and and counting with every episode, especially now
• 26:32
  that I'm rolling them out more, more effectively.
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  But it's it's really awesome to see.
• 26:38
  I have another four episodes that are about to come out or three three.
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  So and I'm I'm actually about to go to go to open and interview a couple of people as well
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  at the end of the month.
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  So it's gonna be it's it's really cool to to do this stuff even though it's a lot of work.
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  Right.
• 26:57
  Hey.
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  I feel you on the work.
• 26:59
  Last weekend, last weekend, I got to cover a PGA tour event, here in Sioux Falls, South
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  Dakota close to where I'm from.
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  I was in a press conference with, you know, NFL hall of famers, Ronde Barber and Chris Carter.
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  Also, you know, World Golf Hall of Famer and six time major champion, Sir Nick Faldo.
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  He got a shot in on me for referring to The Open as one of the other major championships.
• 27:25
  Good.
• 27:25
  Oh, that was by far my wife's favorite moment of being there.
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  Like, oh, they're making fun of you.
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  I was like, well, he's a knight.
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  So I'm not gonna take any offense to it whatsoever.
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  Right.
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  Because if we're gonna roll with it and it's content, everything is content.
• 27:40
  Yeah.
• 27:40
  Well and I just got to release that episode and just it was a joy.
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  But most of the time that I spent at the event was interviewing the nonprofit and the
• 27:48
  charities that are there raising money and and raising awareness about what they're doing.
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  So, I mean, that's what I'm really about.
• 27:55
  When I say shining a light in the dark corners, it's all of those corners.
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  I'm shining a light on the people who are worthy, not just the people who are the stars
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  of the show.
• 28:04
  Right?
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  And it doesn't take, you know, if you're out there serving a community, then you're more
• 28:09
  than worthy of the attention that I'm willing to give you and the attention of our fan base.
• 28:14
  Man, I appreciate that for sure.
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  I absolutely appreciate that because, you know, we all have to work together, to to, like,
• 28:22
  build up and build relationships.
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  And I learned life is definitely about people.
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  You know, it's not very much about things.
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  Things are kind of like the peripheral surrounding the people.
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  So if you focus on that, you're gonna miss out a lot of what the world has to offer.
• 28:40
  And so, you know, I think I've seen a lot of awards just from the stories that I've been
• 28:46
  able to listen to and then share with the great community.
• 28:51
  And so it's Wellspring.
• 28:55
  Again, Wellspring concept.
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  And to me, that's definitely just a Wellspring concept.
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  Well
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  and it's just it's a Wellspring of energy, of fresh energy for yourself to be inspired and to
• 29:06
  keep going.
• 29:07
  And, you know, I interview so many musicians that I'm just like, man, compared to you, like,
• 29:11
  I don't even play music.
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  And I've been I've been doing it for twenty five years.
• 29:15
  I play a lot better than, like, most people who don't perform for a living.
• 29:18
  Right?
• 29:19
  But I watch some of these bands, and I'm just like, man, I'm so jealous of that, right, of
• 29:24
  your band or that song that you wrote.
• 29:26
  And not jealous in, like, the concept of, like, I wish I had wrote it, but just like, man,
• 29:31
  you're you're so talented.
• 29:33
  You're so talented, and and and nobody nobody knows who you are.
• 29:37
  So I really set out with the mission at the scene projects to change that and to do
• 29:41
  whatever small thing that we could to to bring that attention where where it's needed and
• 29:46
  where it's deserving.
• 29:48
  And one of those places is right with you, Wes.
• 29:50
  I think you're a brilliant artist.
• 29:52
  I love what you're doing with the podcast.
• 29:54
  Where can everybody find you so we can help you get that subscriber model that subscriber count
• 29:59
  up and, get you monetized, brother.
• 30:01
  Yeah, man.
• 30:02
  You guys can find me on YouTube at, integrated OKC, so spelled normally.
• 30:08
  And you can also find me on Spotify, Apple Podcasts.
• 30:12
  You know?
• 30:13
  Get 10 downloads a month on Spotify.
• 30:15
  That'd be amazing as you know, help me boost up the signal of me and but really these other
• 30:21
  artists because, like, I really wanna see that come together.
• 30:24
  Also, you can find my art at wesleyluster.art on Instagram and all social media platforms.
• 30:32
  You'll be able to see all these beautiful paintings.
• 30:34
  Yeah.
• 30:34
  Well, I highly encourage everybody go and follow your IG page.
• 30:38
  I've been thrilled to, be in your circle here for a while.
• 30:42
  I'm really happy that we got a chance to to lock this in finally.
• 30:46
  And, Wes, you know, thank you so much for coming on the show today, and thanks for being
• 30:50
  part of the scene.
• 30:51
  Absolutely, dude.
• 30:53
  I'm here, brother.
• 30:53
  So thank you all for the talk, dude.
• 30:56
  I'll catch you guys later.