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- 0:00When I was a kid, I wanted to be Bo Jackson.
- 0:04Not like Bo Jackson, not inspired by Bo Jackson.
- 0:08Bo Jackson.
- 0:10Running back.
- 0:11Outfielder.
- 0:13The most gifted athlete of a generation.
- 0:15The man who made a Nike commercial feel like a religious experience.
- 0:20The guy who scored one of my all-time favorite touchdowns.
- 0:24Monday night football when I was a kid, watching him play against the Seahawks.
- 0:29He was on the Raiders and he ran 90 plus yards down the sideline and straight into the locker
- 0:36room because he was running that fast and could not stop on the field.
- 0:42That guy, that was the plan.
- 0:46Seventh grade after football practice, Coach Swanson gathers all the boys in the locker
- 0:53room and delivers the speech of a lifetime.
- 0:55I'm the one I've never forgotten.
- 0:57And that was the one that killed any dream I had of ever becoming Bo Jackson.
- 1:02He said, and I'm paraphrasing, but not by much,
- 1:05one in about a million kids will ever play professional football.
- 1:11One in 10,000 or 100,000 or whatever even plays college ball.
- 1:16So do good in school.
- 1:18That was it.
- 1:19That was the talk.
- 1:20That was the talk that, again, changed my life.
- 1:24and somewhere in the back of my 12-year-old brain, something quietly closed.
- 1:30Not dramatically, not with a montage.
- 1:32It just closed.
- 1:37Welcome back to Your Mic.
- 1:38My name is Freddy Cruz, and this episode is all about the things that were never supposed to happen.
- 1:44This podcast.
- 1:46My production company, Speak Podcasting.
- 1:49Me.
- 1:50I never went on to play football past high school.
- 1:53I sat the bench in high school as a matter of fact junior year I hurt my knee six weeks out
- 1:57of commission if I'm being honest if I'm being really really honest and I am I don't think I
- 2:03was really ever all in not in the way you have to be to make that one in however many thousand
- 2:10cut to play college ball Bo Jackson he was all in I was in love with the idea of being all in
- 2:19The idea of scoring a touchdown on Monday Night Football to the sound of a roaring crowd on national TV.
- 2:28The sound of hitting a home run in front of a jam-packed stadium.
- 2:34That's the difference.
- 2:34There is a difference.
- 2:36So, what happened was football faded.
- 2:39I pivoted because that's what I have done ever since I was a kid.
- 2:44I pivot.
- 2:45Couldn't be a pro athlete.
- 2:47Well, I wanted to be on TV.
- 2:49did not end up on TV.
- 2:51So I ended up in radio.
- 2:54And not because radio was the dream, but because radio
- 2:58was the door that opened when the other doors didn't.
- 3:03I stumbled into a career that will consume
- 3:05the next 25 plus years of my life.
- 3:07Middays, afternoons, weekend, overnights, a Sunday morning
- 3:10public affairs show, a whole bunch of production, copywriting, 17,000 plus hours behind a microphone,
- 3:17more than a thousand interviews and none of it was ever the plan.
- 3:24All of it was the education.
- 3:27And then that door closed too.
- 3:29And I went looking for the next one.
- 3:32450 plus job applications after
- 3:35I left radio at the end of 2021.
- 3:39Think about that for a second.
- 3:41More than 450 times I applied for a
- 3:45job.
- 3:47Most of them, silence.
- 3:49The kind of silence that makes you wonder if the email was even sent.
- 3:54Oh, it was sent.
- 3:56The kind of silence that at two in the morning starts to sound like
- 4:00an answer.
- 4:02A few of them got as far as interviews.
- 4:03Interviews that felt promising.
- 4:05Interviews that
- 4:06did not lead anywhere.
- 4:07And then, oh, then there was that one.
- 4:12It led somewhere different.
- 4:15It was a company that shall remain nameless, podcast production, B2B content, a team, an infrastructure, a real operation.
- 4:23I wanted the job really bad.
- 4:26So bad, that job that I wanted paid a quarter of my highest income earning year.
- 4:33In other words, not very much.
- 4:37I did not get the job, but I got something else.
- 4:40A rejection letter that was not a form rejection, a personalized, thoughtful, genuinely kind letter that said, in essence, we see you.
- 4:50This just isn't the right fit right now.
- 4:53And that is the rejection I remember most out of the other 450 plus.
- 4:59Here's what that letter did to me, though.
- 5:03It woke something up.
- 5:05I don't know if it was pride.
- 5:07I don't know if it was spite.
- 5:09I don't know if it was the specific alchemy of being seen and turned down in the same breath,
- 5:15but I remember thinking, I know what to build.
- 5:19I don't want to beat this company, not because I'm bitter and I am capable of having a chip on my shoulder,
- 5:26but because they showed me the category was real.
- 5:30That people were building podcast production companies and they were serious and they mattered.
- 5:37That company that turned me down became the measuring stick I held myself against for years.
- 5:43They still are, actually.
- 5:46They're further ahead.
- 5:47They've been at it way longer.
- 5:49They have a team and an infrastructure that makes speak podcasting look,
- 5:53and I'm going to say this loud because I think you need to hear me say it, cobbled together.
- 5:59Hopes and dreams and a little bit of execution held together with tape ambition
- 6:04and the occasional miracle.
- 6:06Sometimes that's how it feels.
- 6:08And I think that is worth saying.
- 6:11But here is what I've been sitting with lately.
- 6:14I've been thinking about personal branding,
- 6:17what it means,
- 6:18how you build one deliberately versus accidentally.
- 6:22And then I realized something.
- 6:24I've been building a personal brand
- 6:26since before the phrase personal brand
- 6:28was something people said at conferences
- 6:30and put in their LinkedIn bios.
- 6:33Every morning I opened a mic at a radio station, I was building a personal brand.
- 6:38Every interview, every piece of production I wrote and produced,
- 6:41every Sunday morning when that show ran in which I was talking with community leaders
- 6:46and nonprofit directors and survivors of things I could barely comprehend,
- 6:50every single one of those was a deposit.
- 6:54It was a deposit into something, but I just didn't know what to call it.
- 7:0217,000 hours.
- 7:05That is what was in the account by the time the door closed and I started sending out over 450 job applications that mostly went nowhere.
- 7:16And here's the thing about building something without realizing you're building it.
- 7:21The foundation is real even when you don't have the blueprint.
- 7:28I didn't know I was building a personal brand, but I was learning how to be trusted on a microphone, how to make a stranger feel heard, how to say the thing nobody else in the room was willing to say.
- 7:42Those skills do not disappear when the job does.
- 7:45They become the company.
- 7:47And I want to answer the question I asked myself today before this recording.
- 7:51Do I even have credibility?
- 7:55Those 450 plus rejections though
- 7:58They eventually became a company
- 7:59This company, Speak Podcasting
- 8:02Cobbled together as it may feel some days
- 8:05We are producing work that is ranking
- 8:07That is making a difference
- 8:08That is growing
- 8:08That is helping people tell stories
- 8:11They could not tell anywhere else
- 8:14Do I have credibility?
- 8:18I think so
- 8:20Sometimes I forget though
- 8:22Coach Swanson was right, by the way.
- 8:26I was never going to be Bo Jackson.
- 8:28But somewhere between the bench and the detour into radio
- 8:34and the 450 plus applications and the rejection letter
- 8:37and the company that was never supposed to exist,
- 8:41I became something else.
- 8:44Something I could not have named in seventh grade.
- 8:47Hey, podcasting was never even a thing when I was that little.
- 8:51It was something that I'm still trying to figure out, but it's something, something real.
- 8:57And if you're sitting somewhere right now, wondering whether your cobbled together hopes and dreams held together with tape version of the thing you're building is legitimate, it is.
- 9:08The foundation is real even when you cannot see the blueprint.
- 9:15Keep building.
- 9:17My name is Freddy Cruz.
- 9:18This is your mic and happy anniversary.
- 9:21to speak podcasting.
- 9:24If this episode hits somewhere you weren't expecting,
- 9:28please do me a favor and subscribe if you haven't.
- 9:31And as always,
- 9:32I really appreciate you letting me be all up in your ears.