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- Jonathan: Mortals gather around, the war drums echo across the fantasy realm, and the gods have convened once again. Welcome to another meeting of Fantasy Four Fantasy Football War Council. I'm Jonathan, your God of War. Standing beside me are Brothers The Destruction, the Brothers Grimm, Daniel and Mario. welcome in, gentlemen. I I was trying to do intro and I truly should have like practiced that I guess. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. ⁓ we're good. Hey you can only practice by doing it. Daniel: Yeah, I think it works, yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, ⁓ good evening, good evening. ⁓ let's see. We got a lot tonight. We got news. we have the ⁓ IDP the start of our IDP rankings. ⁓ I I I got the Show Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: I have a feeling that's gonna be better tonight. Yeah. ⁓ the the we got the defensive linemen and the linebackers tonight. So it's a lot of big boys. And we all played defense in our football careers and we love defense. Lots of respect to the positions. That's why we were we in our fantasy leagues, IDP the defense can make ⁓ as much as ⁓ a good offensive player. ⁓ some can make a lot more. Me Mario: Work that line. Jonathan: ⁓ how they do. So, you know, we love IDP. ⁓ but anyway, one second before the news, ⁓ we hit subscribe buttons, like, share, follow. We need reviews. ⁓ it helps us spread the show ⁓ you know, for all you mortals. ⁓ right into the show, ⁓ FFWC23 at gmail.com or any of our social media platforms and ⁓ off the news. Daniel: All right. ⁓ Texans running back Woody Marks is learning the wide receiver route tree in anticipation of pass catching roll. Hmm, that's a nice little tidbit. Jonathan: Mm. Yeah. I thought so too. See, I mean, we gotta give really good news to our listeners that helps them for their fantasy. Even though, you know, you may wanna keep it for yourself, right? So all news is worthy. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Flyers can be the edge you need to take you to the championship. Jonathan: Yeah. Yes, and I and I checked, he has already taken. ⁓ he he was picked up in our league. So yes. Me Mario: ⁓ Buccaneers. they are having trouble with contract talks with Baker and Vita Vea. Baker says he won't he won't make contract talks a reason he'll miss practice and ⁓ with Vea Oof. Yeah, e either one of those are kinda key cornerstones to that team, so we'll see how things pl pan out. Jonathan: Big time. Yeah, I know with ⁓ Baker they were very far apart and he said that he won't have contract talks ⁓ once the season starts. ⁓ wants to keep his head in the game. So totally respect that. ⁓ so ⁓ this bit of news was totally meant for last week. It was meant on Sunday 'cause ⁓ we were we were gonna do this last week, but we got pushed off 'cause the holiday. But the A train, we were all taking the A train Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jonathan: Mike Allstott was leading ⁓ the S ⁓ Sunday's Hero four hundred as the pace car and it was pretty freaking awesome to watch. So I we did watch that. Yeah. Go Mike Allstott. Daniel: That's cool. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Daniel: All right. ⁓ the commanders sign cornerback Rasul Douglas for a one year deal. Me Mario: That's nice. Good help. And then ⁓ here we go. Speaking of another cornerback, Terrian Arnold clears waivers following Lions release. Apparently, ⁓ he called ownership of the Lions and said he needed help with bail and was hoping they would pay his bail. Upon hearing that, they were like. Are you stupid or something? And There's your final check. You're gone. So ⁓ he's expected to visit NFL teams ⁓ who have interest in him. ⁓ three major teams have shown interest. ⁓ I heard the Colts, ⁓ the Raiders, and I think there's ⁓ one more team out there who have shown ⁓ strong interest in Terrier Arnold. But the charges against him, I I don't know how you could play after that. kidnapping and ⁓ racketeering and just everything that i it was it was quite a plan he had set up. Jonathan: Mm mm. Mm. The other six that you're missing? Yes, there were eight. Yeah. Daniel: It takes yeah. It takes time. It's just it's one more season is all he's got before he's gotta go to trial. Me Mario: Whew. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Make it a good one. Something you can talk to remember about? Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: I mean you could he cleared waivers 'cause they're not gonna pay the first round contract. He's gonna go into the league minimum somewhere for one year until his trial happens and then see whether or not he comes out because he's an idiot. But Me Mario: Well that the Jonathan: ⁓ god no. Me Mario: Yep. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ Me Mario: Then he'll try to sharpen up Henry Ruggs before he tries to make it back into the NFL. Jonathan: Mm, I'm surprised they'll play. That just boggles my mind. Speaking of Daniel: Did we go over what the alleged situation is for him? Like what he did? Jonathan: I did we talk about it last epis I don't think but we could talk about it now. I don't remember I think I think we did talk Daniel: It was like some people stayed Yeah, some people like stayed at his house for an Airbnb and he he thought that and then they like stole some things from his house. And so then he tracked those people down and had them like at a hotel. Me Mario: I I don't think we did. Yeah. Daniel: and orchestrated people to break in and like kidnap them and tie them to chairs and question them about the stuff that was stolen while video recording or talk chatting with them on the phone and asking them questions. And and the and then and they weren't even the right people. Me Mario: Yeah. Interrogating. Yeah, he he paid people two hundred and thirty thousand dollars to find them and interrogate them. And so money trail, paper trail, video trail Yeah, it's Daniel: Yep. Cell phone trail. Jonathan: Not even the right people. That blows my mind. But ⁓ the whole recording and using your cell phone. Like, this is what I'm talking about. We had the you know, the guy getting the ticket because he was recording himself speeding. Don't do stupid shit and record it. I am so glad that we didn't have cell phones that had cameras when we were children. I would be in jail. ⁓ god, I'd be in jail. ⁓ my goodness, my Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: ⁓ God. Or just camera is everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: My children should never hear the stories of the things that I have done. God. I don't know what you're talking about. Speaking of bad things, Brandon Nayuk has posted new video on his social media calling out those that criticize him on his social media activity, which there have been plenty of people doing so, I will say. and said he doesn't plan to stop if he ever joins a new team. Me Mario: What things? Daniel: Yeah, I don't know. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: If I quote, if I jo if I get a job in the NFL, I'm still gonna be on my bullshit social media. And ⁓ right there, end quote, right there that should be an ⁓ a red flag to any NFL team that he's still on his bullshit. Why would you bring him on? So good luck playing. Daniel: If Yeah. He was like, This is paying my bills. I NFL ain't paying me money. Yeah, if you get a contract they are. Plus they did pay you your money. Everything that you were owed, you got paid, and then you decided to not show up. All right. Jonathan: Sure, sure. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Bill's wide receiver DJ Moore buys out entire stock of his shirts to give them out in an attempt to integrate himself to the new community of fans that he has joined. Jonathan: I'm not. He started just giving shirts away, dude. Me Mario: Yeah. He he bought them all and said G give one to each Buffalo fan that comes in here and the store manager just put a sign in instead of a price that says free for Buffalo fans. So yeah, I I think that was a that was a real cool thing. Daniel: Good for him. Jonathan: That's Daniel: That's cool. Yeah. Jonathan: Mm. Me Mario: Yeah. So, Stefan Diggs, speaking of not cool, he's in hot water with a male accuser submitting a hundred pages of evidence of his sexual misconduct against him. So I guess he had Cardi B and Cardi D. Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: Right. Yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Ha ha Jonathan: Good. What are you doing? No, no, no. That is just so bad. I I don't even know what to say to that. Wow. Yeah, wow indeed. Yeah, wow indeed. ⁓ so you know, I I don't know what I gotta get rid of the smile 'cause this is not good news. So Me Mario: Ha ha ha. Ha Daniel: Wow. Mm-hmm. Me Mario: I know. This is bad. Daniel: Yeah. Thanks for that, Mario. Appreciate Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ CJ yeah, no, that was a good laugh. Thank you, Maru. ⁓ CJ two thousand, that's Chris Johnson, ⁓ announced his quickly progressing ALS and ⁓ in a very sad video. ⁓ and many ⁓ have taken to ⁓ recreate his ice bucket challenge ⁓ that he did back in the day. And ⁓ many have have done videos and d jumped on it, but I would say first the ver the first video I did notice was Marshawn Lynz, ⁓ Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: jump into his ⁓ go march on so Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. That's a sad one. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, that's ⁓ one of the fastest men in the NFL right there, and what an amazing season to watch. So and get paid for. Good for him. So he got his money. ⁓ so let's jump into our IDP rankings. We love this, we love this. Let's start the debate. I'm ready. I'm excited. And see if there's any tinkering during the episode too. ⁓ Me Mario: Hey. Yeah. Daniel: ⁓ huh. Maybe ahead of it. Me Mario: ⁓ I I see we have a lot similar on this one. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, we are ⁓ there's a lot of names that are on the list, just not in the same spots. I don't know if we have many other than number one that are all three identical. Yeah, our number one is identical. But we do have I think a lot of the similar names. There are maybe one or two that are not. W ⁓ we have some surprises. Yeah, this is a very good list. I think we Daniel: Similar ish. The same, mm. Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah, this is a good list. Jonathan: This was a really fun one to do, I thought. I really enjoyed. But I hey, I was a defensive lineman. So I enjoyed this list. I enjoyed this list a lot. ⁓ starting off with our number one, and we were this is our unanimous. We all believe the same thing. I think he's just gonna have a monster of a season. ⁓ Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett is just gonna eat quarterbacks literally for a living. And when you do s when you do what you love, you never work a day in your life, they say. Me Mario: Yeah. ⁓ Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: And that man is going to literally kill people and get paid for it. So good for you. Me Mario: Yeah, I I have to add that one as well. That that's gonna be ⁓ up there. So th along with the news of Miles Garrett being our all number one is ⁓ Air Aaron Donald was Daniel: Ha ha ha. Jonathan: My name should be way higher if he comes out of retirement, but I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Mario, yeah. ⁓ I like I like the No. Well, why isn't it number ten? Mm. Daniel: It's gotta be that that's that's the big if. So that's the big if. Yeah. Me Mario: ⁓ d d did you guys hear the news today? Did you hear the news today? He was at Rams camp today. He wasn't working out. He showed up to Rams camp today. Jonathan: Well of course. Yeah. Yeah. He wants to check it out. They're they're enticing him. Come back and we'll give you this. They have to have that conversation. A dinner has to be had, right? There's gotta be some wooing. I like this. The wooing has begun. Holy fuck. The Rams are gonna win a damn Super Bowl right now. Yeah. No, Daniel, I think ⁓ Me Mario: Who's enticing who? Jonathan: I I think he goes right here. Daniel: Now this is a big contingency that if he comes back he's gonna be a yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll say if. We'll say if, but he went to everybody's list. He just instantly went to everybody's list. So yeah, for sure. We'll see where that happens. ⁓ so I think in today, and I should have mentioned this, I think that ⁓ we spent a lot of time last time and we all were going over our names. And I say if we all have the same person, we mention a name, let's mention where we each have ⁓ so that we don't come back to that name again. Me Mario: I mean can you help me? Yeah. Can you help can you help me? Daniel: Yeah. Okay. Me Mario: Pop How can you? How can I know? Help me, please. Jonathan: And spent another like four or five minutes talking about the same name. 'Cause I think we droned on a lot going over that last time. I think we did. ⁓ so we 'cause we all have the same names. Several just mentioned where we have ⁓ and you know. Hi, honey. ⁓ okay. Well, ⁓ Daniel. Me Mario: Yeah, I think that's a good idea. But Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: So Miles Garrett, number one. John and I have the same number two. ⁓ Mario has them listed as number three. We got Aiden Hutchinson. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. He's gonna be up there, either way. Jonathan: A Aiden Hutchinson. Yeah, I I have him as my number two, yes. ⁓ with you. ⁓ I agree. I think ⁓ that he's he's too young, he's gonna be amazing, and he's just a monster. Look at that guy. Yeah, no, he's Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah, he's he's a beast. Daniel: I think he's gonna be awesome this year. Jonathan: Yeah. Me Mario: He he easily if he didn't get injured two years ago, was gonna be off defensive player of the year. And then and then you know what? Maybe he just took an extra year to get better. And now one year removed Phew Yeah, so I Jonathan: Yeah. Hey, you know, certain injuries take more than the one year, yeah. Daniel: Yep. All right. Mario's got a number two that John and I have at number three. Go ahead, Mario. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Max Crosby, mister Mad Max of the Raiders. Jonathan: I you know, I had to have him in the top three. I I I I I started with his name at number one and then I went, wait a minute, Miles Garrett's there. No, no, no, no, no. So I I I did chuck him down and then I was like, Wait a minute, Aiden deserves some respect too. So yeah, I it was it's tough. I mean, I think these guys could be interchangeable, but it's really tough, but yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. I think so. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yeah, I think I think the big difference with the Raiders is he was doing all that with an awful, awful secondary before. And his team overall has improved. ⁓ they're not atop or anything like that. He's still the centerpiece with not a huge amount of health. But I think the secondary's gotten better, which will help him get more pressure. Jonathan: ⁓ Mm. So Mario, why don't you take Yeah. Well, that'll show what they're what they're veering towards, right? So Daniel: Mm, quite possibly. As long as they don't trade ⁓ before the season starts. Me Mario: All right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then so we've all got a different number four going on there. And Jonathan: think you take this one 'cause you're you're the highest on this particular player. So you should take this number for first. Me Mario: Okay. ⁓ TJ Watt is who I have going in now. And he doesn't play as many snaps as a lot of the other defensive players who are up here toward the top of this. He pi he plays a lot fewer snaps. But this year ⁓ they vacated some Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: S snaps to some major people over there. And on top of that, I think they really, really beefed up their secondary, which is a big problem for them. So once you beef up the secondary, the line tends to have a little more time to get to the QB. And so if he's getting a little more snaps and the secondary is better, he he's gonna do better than he has been in the past two years, I think. Jonathan: Look, I I I I had him higher originally. I I kept sliding him down just 'cause I like certain names. ⁓ my issue is his playtime, not being on the field as many. The snap count was really something that that got to me at the same time as ⁓ I don't know. In in our fantasy leagues I view him as well Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: in in defense they call it like touchdown dependency. I say he's very sack dependent because he doesn't get he doesn't have a high tackle count. He's gonna have a high sack count if he's doing well. So And then if he hasn't been doing as well Daniel: Very much. Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: And that's he hasn't been doing as well over the last three years in as far as an IDP in comparison two years, excuse me, because he they've been using him more as a pass rush specialist because of his injury history, I think. Because the number of snaps that he's had has gone down because they're trying to keep him be and the and the number of injuries has also still gone up. Like he's still missing a couple of games, you know, a season, no matter what at the base. Me Mario: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: But would you you know how a player plays, you should play him to his strengths 'cause you're not using him to his strengths and you can see that he's I don't know, I see him Daniel: I I think I think if he was full time on the line, he'd be a top three guy. Right? But but you also don't ⁓ but you all he also has a really low basement because he could get hurt, or they could be just limiting him on pass fright pass rush fate you know, snaps. And that's what kills it because he could have a game where he scores twelve points because he had two sacks in the game and then or he gives you a donut because he did absolutely nothing, you know? And Me Mario: So so that's that's the ⁓ I haven't so high? Yeah, ⁓ yeah, I think so. Jonathan: It would help. I think it would help. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. So there's two Jonathan: True. Now I I mean I could say the same for anybody. Anybody can get hurt. But more ⁓ some most people that play on a field they will come away with a a couple tackles, something. This guy will not get those tackles, he's going away with either a sack or nothing. So Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. I think he's started. Me Mario: So the the other thing to point out is that you got a new coach there. You got a new coach there. And so the same old scheme that people have kind of figured out in Pittsburgh, it's gonna be a new look for him. And I think he's smart enough and talented enough, but I do think he's in his twilight of his career. But Jonathan: He's starting to do a couple of tackles so yeah, but Daniel: No. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. I just said. Yeah. Daniel: I yeah. Me Mario: I I think if any without new film on the new scheme and stuff that they're gonna be in, ⁓ that's I won't have him nearly this high next year. But ⁓ I think this year he's got a lot going for him. ⁓ as long as he stays healthy. Jonathan: Yeah. I don't know. I love J I love DJ. He's Daniel: Mad respect for TJ Watt. I just see him in his brother's end of se end of career trajectory at this point where it's just injury after injury after injury after injury. And he's just he's in for two games, he misses three. He's in for three games, he misses two. And he and he's playing like a half a season the last couple of seasons. So I just some players reach that threshold and their bodies are like, I'm done. And we saw it with his brother, who was an absolute monster. Jonathan: Mm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Monster. And so it's like I just it's a family, like you know, it's the same trajectory. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: And he stuck it out. He stayed he stayed long, but yeah, he definitely was coming and ⁓ J J had injury after injury. So Daniel: So I I hedged my bets in between you two, funny enough. Between four and twelve for John, I have him at seven because he's got a low floor, but man, if he turns on the season with a new scheme, more snap rates, man, he could be awesome, but Jonathan: way more toward the floor. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ absolutely. But I leaned a little more toward the floor and plank is a ⁓ a snap count. I just I looked at the number of snap count and said, Okay, I mean, you know, he's more boomer bust in my opinion, so I love him, but he's great, but yeah. So ⁓ Daniel, I like your number four. I like your number four. Yeah, I like your number four. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Fair. ⁓ I love I love that number four. Daniel: ⁓ I love my number four. Will Anderson Junior. I think it's gonna be his big year this year. ⁓ you know, unfortunately, what's up? Jonathan: Mine would be closer. Mine would be closer if I didn't just mine would be closer if I didn't just add Aaron Donald into the ni into the mix. But ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Daniel: Yeah. That's right. That's your four right there. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Hey, I mean, you know, if if he's gonna play, he's gonna be sitting really close to Miles Garrett if he plays. But if he doesn't play, ⁓ you know, d d I have Danelle Hunter there. So let's be honest. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ so Will Will Anderson's getting the whole ⁓ he's he's they're having to take him off the field 'cause he's wrecking practice vibe going off this off season so far. So Me Mario: Yeah, and I've got Jonathan: man. No, I I like what's going on with Will. I have him at at at at six at the moment with Aaron Donald there, but you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's it's yeah, exactly. Exactly. ⁓ speaking of beast, you're number five. ⁓ Me Mario: Yeah. As do I. Six six is right where I have him too. I think he's a beast. Daniel: I'm excited. Me Mario: Yes sir. Jeffrey Simmons. Jeffrey Simmons just got paid. And whereas that makes some guys drop off a little bit, ⁓ I think he's gonna have a rejuvenation to his spirit of play with Robert Sala there. And yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to seeing that together, that marriage. Jonathan: You're number five. Yeah. Daniel: Mario. Jonathan: Well. Yep, I I I have him at eight. ⁓ I think Well, I I gonna say I'm the lowest on him, but Daniel, you don't e don't even have him on your list. But then again at your number five, I think you're holding someone that neither of us have on your list. So ⁓ yeah. Daniel: I don't have him. Correct. I went Trey Hendrickson at five, ⁓ with a new environment. Do get seventeen point five sacks a season. Like that's his baseline right now, right? And so they only played him on seventy-five percent of the snaps that he would have been eligible for inside of Cincinnati, and they already said that they're planning on just letting him roam the field in Baltimore. So Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: You know, he's typically a high scoring IDP, but same thing with like TJ Watt. If he had more time on the field for snaps for meaningful snaps, then it gives him more of an opportunity to actually score points. And so I that's why I went ahead and put Hendrickson up there because of the fact of what I'm hearing from what the plan is for him is ⁓ should be should help with his production. Me Mario: There there is that I just have a fear of his run game. and the division he's in for running. So if he gets run all over like he has been for his entire career, ⁓ he's he's great at pass pro but he's not he's he hasn't been effective at all in the run. He's kind of a negative there. So that's that's why I brought him up. Jonathan: Bring in a a linebacker behind them that is really good in the run but really bad in the pass. ⁓ I got a name there in my linebacker list it would work. That he's not not got a team. He doesn't have a team and he needs a spot. Me Mario: You sure do. Yeah. So that's that's not bad. Well plus you got Roquan back there too. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ see that's what I'm talking about. Roquan's really good. But yeah. Okay. Well, ⁓ finish off five. ⁓ I got I put Danell Hunter there, ⁓ in my five. Daniel: Yeah. Yep. Me Mario: Yeah, he's phenomenal. Daniel: I g he's at my six. I think this is gonna he's he's on the same kind of trajectory as Willie Anderson, I think. And it's ⁓ both their year threes and they're gonna be awesome. Or no, it's four year four for Willie Anderson. Me Mario: So Jonathan: It's it's yeah. Yeah. ⁓ Me Mario: So d Daniil Hunter being so darn good, I have him at number ten, is why I have Will Will Anderson down at six. Is because y y you can't have all the sacks if you're sharing. And so I think they're both gonna eat, but it's gonna be I you know Jonathan: I don't know. That's why I have Aaron at four and Miles at one. If they're gonna eat, they're gonna eat together. It's called a feast. You seen a sense that game? Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Yes, yes. Well, 'cause they they also have Yeah, you you also have cornerbacks and linebackers on that team. Ye everybody's gonna it's it's gonna be like piranhas around a blooded calf. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, everybody wants to eat, yeah. Daniel: They're s they're set up to hunt. I mean That defense is going to be insane this year. Everybody's talking about Seattle, which they should be talking about Seattle, because I think Seattle's gonna be better also. But that Texans defense has done nothing but get better. They're so young, they're gonna gel together. And yeah, Anderson and Hunter are gonna eat because you can't throw on that defense. You know? Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the Eagles and Texas. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Well. Me Mario: And they're Jonathan: Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: It it's you have Lassiter and Singletary there on the outside and Petrie in the middle and like man they're just it's that's gonna be teams are gonna not not walk away from that those games very well. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ ⁓ yeah, Peter. Me Mario: ⁓ yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. No defense wins defense wins, right? So you can hold and shut down an offense. Me Mario: It they're they're gonna be walking like they spent the night with Diggs. Daniel: ⁓ No, okay, don't you mean Cardi D? Yeah. And his last name's Diggs. ⁓ that's so good. It fits so on so many levels. All right. All right. John, you at six. Jonathan: ⁓ I've done. Me Mario: Yes. Jonathan: Back to the No I I'm not dropping any of these drops. No, they don't work. No, no, no. Okay, ⁓ let's see. ⁓ so well my we talked about my Will Anderson. That was where I had Will. So ⁓ you're you're Donnell Hunter and then his will yeah, so we will will so we're Dark Seven is Brian Burns and I I c I gotta just the young kid gonna just blow up the ⁓ the Me Mario: Ha ha. All right. Daniel: Yep. And Mario. Me Mario: Yeah. We're on number seven now. Jonathan: The d they're doing so much there in that defense. cannot give them I I gotta give them so much praise from what that they're doing turning over there that I I I can't say this because I know Robbie is a big Giants fan, but like holy fuck. Like this they're they're doing a lot and I really like what they're doing. So and Burns it Burns is really good. I like I like the pick. Yeah, I think that they might become their top Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah, I think with their new rookie coming in, their top pick, Brian Burns is gonna get a little more run and he's already very talented. So I I've got him also at seven. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Absolutely. No. ⁓ it it he's he had a good year last year. I think he's gonna have a really good year this year. Yeah, it's he's just h his trajectory is going up at the moment. That's just I'm giving more tackles. ⁓ you know, he's gonna add in a couple sacks, maybe. I just I don't know. I see, I see ⁓ tackle, tackle machine. I mean, what do we all Paul Plusnesny was our Daniel: You do it. Me Mario: He did. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Tackle, tackle, tackle back in the day. So I mean, ⁓ we need a new tackle king and ⁓ Daniel: Tackle, tackle. Me Mario: Yes. Do. Jonathan: I mean on ⁓ honestly I really like yeah, I don't know. I have a name in my head that I'd give it to, but he's not on a team at the moment, so depends on what team he goes to. Now honestly, like if somebody uses Devin White properly, the man is terrible in pass coverage, but he's really good with run coverage. And he's really good at eyeing a single target and hitting that target. Tell him to go step back Me Mario: If we Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jonathan: Two drops and watch for a ball, the guy's not gonna he's gonna be like looking in the clouds, not knowing what to do. He has no idea what's going on. But he can find a target and hit a target. And he does that really well. So yeah. If he gets signed, I have a really high on my list, but ⁓ it depends on what team he goes to. So Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Seaball, chase ball, go spot, go. Jonathan: D ball go hit. It's like yeah. Okay. Hey fuck. ⁓ yeah. Well the hey, it's it's Cordell Patterson for it's it's Cordell of the defense. Run run. It's run run of the defense. Yeah. It's run run. Daniel: Th the other problem is that he usually overruns the ball also. He get he's it's frustrating. He makes a lot of tackles, but he does he he's he's run run. He is. And if they use him properly, you're right. Whatever team signs, you the Raiders had a nice plan for him last year, but the thing is is that he he offers Jonathan: And boy, did that go off. Daniel: He offers just so much liability as a player is the problem, which is why he's not staying on any teams or been signed. But he can he can rack up tackles, but he also misses done. And so if you could you imagine if he ever cleaned up his game how good he could have been? Ugh, it's devastating. Jonathan: Yes. And that's why he hasn't resigned. Yeah. ⁓ it's a one year take. Mmm. ⁓ fuck. ⁓ dude, absolutely. 'Cause I mean, holy crap. But see, that's where I put ⁓ Like a quarterback spy. A a guy that watches a running back and a quarterback. Don't drop back, don't watch passes, just watch the guys that run the ball, right? Me Mario: And that's that's why I think ⁓ you're right that the Ravens are a good spot, but I also think the Browns would be a good spot too. Because 'cause S Schessinger is smart and if you have him opposite Jared Verse, ⁓ i it could be smart there. Jonathan: Yeah. Boy, that's not a bad spot actually either. I was starting to place like Carolina. Daniel: Well let's let's get back to the linemen, guys. We'll talk about the linebackers and stuff in a bit. I I know, I'm just saying we're on number eight. I do not have Brian Burns on my list. I I I love Brian Burns. However Jonathan: I was thinking of Carolina just 'cause he's a bad. Yeah, sorry, I'm distracted. So distracting. Okay, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, I love linebackers too. Don't get me wrong. That's Me Mario: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ did we finish seven, seven, seven? Yeah. God, that's shocking too, really. I mean Daniel: Everybody that's gonna face the Giants is gonna run straight up the middle because they've got nothing in the middle. Everything's gonna be directed away from the edges because all of their defensive line talent are on the edges only. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: True, but an edge can crash. Edges can crash, man. Edges can still pinch and crash. So Daniel: But that that makes it more dangerous then, 'cause it then if they're gonna come inside and they're gonna crash in the inside, then that leaves the outside open and they're gonna get just gashed by outside runs. Jonathan: Well no, when that run when that run comes up they could pinch and crash. They could still be part of a half tackle or something. I mean in IDP that matters. You're still getting half a tackle. It's not like you you know, in in offense you're not getting shit, right? You at least get something. Me Mario: Well if Daniel: Yeah. I just think that teams are gonna run away from him 'cause he's the one on that team that they have to worry about right now. Carter's decent, but he hasn't really shown much. And and neither is Thibodeau and and neither has all of those resources that they put on the edge. But that's why they still traded for Brian Burns on top of all of that draft stock that they put in there. So unless if TJ Edwards and ⁓ Avril Reese are gonna be making up taking up the slack for not having Me Mario: Allez. Jonathan: True. Mm. But they do. Me Mario: Yeah. I think Arvale Reese will. Daniel: having defensive linemen in front of them then w which is a lot to put on the rookie. So I did it for scheme purposes. I love Brian Burns, but the fact that they lost sexy Dexie there in the middle, I think he gave he gave so much production to those edges because he sealed off the middle. And now teams are just gonna go run away from where the power is. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. I get but I still think our those great Me Mario: I know. Jonathan: Yeah. And you You're not wrong. You're not wrong. The loss of Dexy was pretty good 'cause you lose the middle and fucking dude. That's your that's your whole line really. It just breaks off and it just it's two splits coming in. Yeah. No, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Daniel: That's your whole line. Yep. Straight up the middle. Which is why I am high on Evel Reese, but that's a different story. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, so our number eight. Our number eight. We've been over ⁓ we mentioned Aaron Donald. I guess we mentioned Aaron Donald when I was at four that you have him at eight, Daniel. So ⁓ you slipped him in. Hey hell look, dude. And Dan and Mario Mario Mario's got him at sixteen. The honorable mention. The honorable mention at sixteen, right? So Me Mario: None of us have Dexter Lawrence on here. Daniel: None of us do. 'Cause he went to the Bengals. Yes. I put ⁓ right in the middle of the list because Yeah. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: ⁓ no, you you did well at the middle of the list, right? That you're you're saying that he's gonna drive them away and write at Miles Garrett. That's why Miles has a good year. Daniel: Yeah he's either never on the list because he doesn't play or he comes back from retirement and he's up at the top. So I just put him right in the middle. Jonathan: Yeah, very true. Very true. I guess I guess I went high, you went mid, and ⁓ Mario went low. Sorry. Yeah, Mario went low. Okay, well with our number eight, ⁓ mine and Mario both paired at ⁓ Byron Young. And I I mean honestly, like, how can Byron not be part of this list? That defensive line. Yeah, man. I mean, honestly, they're just they're just such a Daniel: Bar you went low, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Me Mario: Dude, he's been so impressive. Daniel: Yeah. I have met twelve. Jonathan: Such a good defense line. And I'm like I'm like, wait, Jerry versus their two ways knowing when to the Browns. I mean, they're just such good players that played on that line. What an amazing they're gonna win a damn Super Bowl. Me Mario: If if Aaron Donald comes back, Byron Young will be on here out of straight disrespect because you can't help but ignore him. ⁓ Jonathan: Yeah. Daniel: Mm. Yes. Yes. Jonathan: Yeah. Yes. You can you can only run so many directions. Yeah, you can only run so many directions. When you get a hand at the ball. Me Mario: You c you can't help it. Ignore the wolf to handle the two bears. Daniel: Yeah. They it's it turns into a three it it's a three man rush. They put everybody else back in the secondary 'cause you gotta double t all three of those guys. You gotta double Byron and you gotta double Aaron and you gotta double Garrett. So who are you gonna choose, right? Me Mario: Yep. Jonathan: Any running back. So I'm thinking Christian McCaffrey staring at that defensive line, he goes, No, I won't do it. You can't hand me the ball and run against that. I won't do it. No. Yeah, yeah. No, good luck with that shit. Yeah, ⁓ Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: It's so funny. Yeah. Me Mario: No no they he sees ⁓ What kind of wheel route am I running? Daniel: Yeah. Get me outside. Jonathan: Keep me outside. Yeah. I think you just hit the head on that one when he plays against the Rams. Get me on wheel on wheel routes. I like that. ⁓ Yeah, that th ⁓ good job, the wheel route. Alright, so that was our number eight. ⁓ number nine. Number nine. ⁓ man, I I you know, Daniel. Me Mario: I don't want to hear any other plays. There are no other plays for this. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Ha ha ha. Jonathan: Both of you guys. Yeah, okay. All right. So ⁓ I like both of your guys. ⁓ you guys are just one pick higher. It everything threw it off because if I'm my Aaron Donald edition, look at what I did. That would have been ⁓ paired right with us, right? Daniel: Mm. It would have been real close, yeah. You would have had him at ten. Me Mario: Well you got you got the former Rand coming in. Jonathan: You know, ⁓ you know, it is. It is what it is. But hey, so ⁓ Andrew Van Geinkle at nine, you both have ⁓ sitting on your list and you guys look I'm very well. I guess I just d I wasn't thinking. What am I not thinking? That it didn't pair. Geekle's just so good. I don't know. I just ⁓ I have him a little lower. I put ⁓ at eleven on mine. I don't know. I just couldn't fit in tack certain tackle number count. Daniel: So at nine, yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's fair. Daniel: No, it's definitely I mean I think it's a good spot for him. I think he's a back end DL one. You know, he's super solid. He's way more productive than people think he is. We're all in the ballpark. We're pretty much in consensus here. Jonathan: Yeah, it's just factoring in numbers and Mm. Yeah, I think we have him right in the spot. He's right at the the the fringe top ten guy. Right at the back end. So see, I think I think t Jared Verse here at number ten. ⁓ you know, comes into his new team and ⁓ says, Fuck it, I better play to get a bunch of money, right? So he's gotta play really well to earn that paycheck. Me Mario: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Daniel: Yep. So you've got who at number ten. Me Mario: É que é. Jonathan: 'Cause you're not gonna ever win a Super Bowl in Cleveland, so Me Mario: Well Cli Cleveland was dying for a leader and I think they're they well, that's that's true. That's true too. Jonathan: Cleveland's dying period, but yeah. Daniel: ⁓ They they got a player that matches their team build more, right? Me Mario: I think so. Yeah. Yo young guy, lots of potential. Daniel: Young guy, rookie contract. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ lots of potential. Absolutely. No, I like it. I think it'll be really good for him. He's yeah, he's on the end of his rookie contract. You can play him a little bit. Well no, it's well yeah, well. I I I yes, yes. It was it was a good deal for the trap. It's very good. It's very good. Yes. ⁓ You get to play him, he's phenomenal. But when that time comes, he's gonna want the biggest Daniel: He's still got three years left. Me Mario: Yeah. It was it was a good deal for the Browns for where they're at. Daniel: It's nuts. Yes. Yeah. Miles Garrett money. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Biggest paycheck. Yeah. He's gonna want number one money. He's gonna want top that that's I think is he'll I but I believe he'll show it though. And that's why I have him right here. Yeah, that's why I put him right here at number ten this year. I think he'll come out, he's gonna have a good year. He may even bump up a spot or two. I just you know, I don't know. We'll see. ⁓ I I I was just trying to look where you had ⁓ and Mario at twelve. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. He'll be worth it. Yeah. ⁓ I think I'm lowest on him at thirteen, which isn't which isn't that far. I just Me Mario: Yeah, I've got ⁓ at twelve. Daniel: Mario's got him at twelve. He just I think that he had a good chemistry and help in the Rams system. I do think that the the Browns interior line is really good as long as they stay healthy, which there's a possibility that they will. ⁓ so I I do think that he's got a decent amount of production. I don't think there's gonna be much fall off from what he's been the last couple of seasons, which is right in this area. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: But he had a better line to be ⁓ in in LA for sure. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Daniel: But I I think that ⁓ again, like the the the Browns interior are ascending ⁓ with Mason that they drafted last year, but he got hurt when he was outstanding before he got hurt. ⁓ Alex Wright in the middle also has been pretty solid. But we just don't know how much of that also was the Miles Garrett effect, too, right? So were they super solid because the resources that were allocated towards them because of Miles Garrett, or did Miles Garrett actually benefit a little bit because they were Me Mario: Yep. Yeah. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yeah, Mason Graham solid. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Daniel: actually coming on. I don't know. ⁓ so but I'm just so that's why I'm saying he's gonna be about exactly. So which side did it go did it go? ⁓ but so Mario you got him at thirteen, right? No. Twelve. Jonathan: It's the you put the player there and everyone else gets a plus one, plus one for being there. Yeah. Me Mario: No, I got him at twelve. I I actually think he has a slightly better motor than Garrett. So I think that's kinda gonna help a little bit. the desire. But Garrett could just do freakish things that no one else alive practically can do. So I think the motor's gonna help Verse, but I think this year he'll be down at twelve. And Jonathan: No, you're you're at thirteen, he's at twelve. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we're close. Me Mario: As they gel, he's gonna really show his true colors toward the end of the season. Jonathan: Speaking of freakish, I just saw another and this man's still going, another video of J of Harrison, James Harrison doing workout videos. This man is the fucking just look at that dude go. And then he was training someone else to do some shit just like him. So Yeah, yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Daniel: So Mario, this is where you have Danelle Hunter at ten. And I have somebody that we don't that you guys don't have on your list. My guy. Yeah. Thuli Tulipolotu. He's been getting better every year. Me Mario: I do, I do. Yeah. Charger. Jonathan: No, not at all. Yeah. I I know. Me Mario: Yeah, he's he's pretty good. Yep. Jonathan: contemplated putting him on my list, but I gave a little love to the Buccaneers towards the end as we'll get to, so we'll get there. No, no, I I it was a really good pick. I think I think he made a good choice here. ⁓ he's really talented, so Daniel: Yeah. ⁓ Me Mario: Yeah, I was considering him and Chop Robinson. ⁓ they've been ascending and doing really well. ⁓ but I just left them off because just the other names ended up pushing them down. Nothing aback is them. Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: Yeah, chapter. That's that was my Yeah, that was my and honestly I didn't tinker much with this list, so I said it and I'm kinda like, Yeah. It was like, Yeah, stamp. I like it. ⁓ let's see. Thirty years eleven. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. So Mario, who you got Levin, right? Me Mario: Yeah, eleven. Eleven I've got Derek Brown of the Carolina Panthers. ⁓ he was hurt a lot of last year, but every time he played He would just wreck everything. And the Panthers, they're building incredibly smart and they're bringing a lot in. If JC Horn is healthy on top of that, that'll give him even more time. I think it's gonna come together for the Panthers this year. I think they're gonna give the Bucks a real run for their money. And may maybe that division gives more teams a little more pause before. Daniel: Mm. Jonathan: Mm. Me Mario: So ⁓ well we'll see what happens Jonathan: Yeah. Absolutely. No. ⁓ I think you're right. ⁓ I I I didn't put Brown on my list for the fact that ⁓ it was the the injuries and the ⁓ not not playing the whole game. So yeah. Daniel: Nice. I just I I think that their Carolina is expecting a big year from him because they let Aishon Robinson walk. but that also what kind of brings a question mark to me is cause can he anchor this the middle of that that line without Acehaun Robinson, who's been there the last couple of years. And who where every stop he's at, he just improves that defensive line. So it's interesting to see happy to see him in Tampa. ⁓ Aceon Robinson that is, but ⁓ Derek Brown has is gone. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Mm. Daniel: gonna have the ⁓ snapshare to really prove Mario right on this for sure, I think. my eleven is a big guy in the middle too. Byron Murphy, ⁓ Seattle. Hmm Me Mario: Mm-hmm. ⁓ man. I'd love to see this. Jonathan: Mm. That's a good one. Me Mario: He's he's a selfless ⁓ defender, so he's not putting up a lot of the numbers, but he makes the overall defense better. I'd love to see him start putting up actual stats. Daniel: Yep. Well I mean he was still pretty decent last year, but yeah. Fantasy stats. No, I mean yeah. He I think ⁓ he's gonna have a breakout at some point on that line that and and so I'm just counting it on s earlier rather than later. And this is where John's got Andrew Van Ginkle. Me Mario: Well, I mean fantasy stats. Yeah. Jonathan: Mm. Yep, we mentioned that earlier. And then ⁓ my twelve was where I had DJ Watt. So we've been over that one. But ⁓ let's see, you Byron Young. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Daniel: Mines. Twelve. Me Mario: So we're going to thirteen now to our new names. Daniel: Jared Verse. Jonathan: So now we're at thirteen. Yeah. well see I'm the highest on Montez Sweat. Yeah. I I you know, ⁓ Monster Year this year with the Brown with the Bears. So Me Mario: Take us away, John. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: I think I think so too. Yeah. I'm I'm excited to see. Daniel: Need to Jonathan: Yeah. No, he's just he looked good last year. I I think I think year two is gonna be a much better year. ⁓ he's gonna do a lot better there. Just mold with the team better, so yeah. ⁓ Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: He he was awesome towards the end of the season after they traded him. And I think you're right, man. He's just gonna pick up through the offseason, man. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: He's it it's like he's ⁓ trying to prove something. Yeah, yeah. He's coming out trying to prove something. So I I I love it. No, I wanna I wanna see it. I think bears are just gonna have a phenomenal year. So ⁓ you're thirteen. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And Daniel's honorable mention at sixteen, so I like that. I I see ⁓ originally I th I wanna say you had him at fifteen, but you kicked him down. I see a name you you added a name. Me Mario: All right. Yeah. I I got him at fifteen. He's he's right up there with me too. I l I love what he's got. Daniel: Yeah. That that was the Aaron Donald name. Yeah, yeah. Me Mario: yeah. Jonathan: You had the Aaron Donald. Yeah, yeah, you added Aaron Donald. Okay. So that's what I was saying. I I I remember seeing the the same as Mario. Okay. ⁓ so let's see. ⁓ thirteen, thirty, thirteen. Jared first. I love your what's that year three for him? This is year three? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's gonna do much better. Struggled in year one, ⁓ kinda had a much better year two. I think year three is just Me Mario: my number thirteen is Latu Latu. I think Yeah Daniel: Yeah. Does the year three? Me Mario: Yeah. Mix mix film some really h really high points. I think he's getting more consistent. Jonathan: Amount. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly. ⁓ I have them at fifteen. I have ⁓ at fifteen. Daniel, you have them as ⁓ fifteen as well. So ⁓ let's see. ⁓ fourteen. Mario, we both share number fourteen. I love it. Yaya diabe. Daniel: I do. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Me Mario: Heck yeah, man. Jonathan: Love it. ⁓ yeah. See, I was having trouble. Like I I ya ya, I got ya here. I think they're gonna be real phenomenal. ⁓ see my fifteen was la ⁓ la tu, but I put I put our rookie, ⁓ honorable mention at sixteen. I know I'm crazy, I'm crazy. I got three bucks on my li ⁓ see Vita wants money. I think he's gonna come out and just kill it this year because he wants to be paid. Me Mario: I hope so. I hope so. Jonathan: So yeah, I got three bucks on my list, the rookie and Yahya was just doing amazing last year. So yes, yes. ⁓ I I know, I'm crazy, I know. I just I as I I I it is I it is hopeful. It is hopeful, absolutely. I was thinking a little with my heart over my head, but ⁓ as I stared at the end of the list and I'm like, Okay, some honorable mentions, who would I really want to see in this spot? And I'm like, I would love to see Vita Veya here and you know, so Me Mario: Yeah. You're you're not. You're hopeful. I'm loving it. Daniel: You're not yeah. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. ⁓ well, I I'd love to hear your your guys' honorable mentions. ⁓ Jim and Philip I'll I'm sorry, I I I forgot your sorry, I jumped over your we all had fourteen and fifteen the same, so I will join the first thing I think I'm here. Daniel: I got four ⁓ Jalen Phillips at my fourteen. ⁓ sorry. It's all right. Carolina. I love Jalen Phillips and I think him and Derek Brown have the opportunity to possibly be able to eat on that line. So Me Mario: I think that's that's a great pick. Yeah. Jonathan: Carolina. Yeah. I agree. Honestly, I I I wanted to put both him and ⁓ Derek Brown on my list, but I didn't want to be called ⁓ a Carolina fan, so I put Buccaneer fans up here instead. ⁓ I ha I guess I know I have I have three Carolina jerseys in my closet, but I don't want to be shamed for that, okay? I don't want to be shamed for that. Daniel: Yeah. It's so funny. Me Mario: And then and then my honorable mention ⁓ after us mentioning his name. Dexter Lawrence, man, he's I Dexter Lawrence he's he's gotta be up there. So, yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. And I like I like that you're your your number seventeen, Daniel. I love that you Daniel: ⁓ yeah. That's right. My my honorable mentions are Montez Sweat and Dallas Turner. Jonathan: I love it. I love it. Me Mario: Yeah Dallas Turner man another one. I freakin' hope so. that would be awesome. Jonathan: Okay. ⁓ let's jump into our linebackers spots. ⁓ I do love okay, you guys ⁓ why don't you guys take it away? You share you share a name here. And I I do like your name. I will not discretion. ⁓ I I mine came down to I will say the snap count for me between these two names. Daniel: Jack Campbell Me Mario: I yeah, for me, Terry and Arnold's gone. And ⁓ Jack Campbell's shown more and more ⁓ ability to drop in coverage and he might have to do more work with Brian Burns as well and you know, the whole team may get a little bit extra there. So with everything he's he keeps improving on, ⁓ year after year, and that subtraction, I put him up here Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Mm. It's a it's a good one. That's a good one. I I I put Jack Campbell as my number two. ⁓ just I was going over snap counts and ⁓ I have Jordan Brooks at number one just 'cause he plays he was on the field more. And ⁓ I you know, it's all comes in snap count, so Me Mario: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Daniel: And without Alex Anzaloni there anymore. Jonathan: And and Mario, I'm loving your number two. I must say I'm I'm loving your number two. ⁓ I just couldn't go so high. I couldn't go so high myself. Me Mario: Ha ha ha. ⁓ yeah, d d Daniel mentioned the other key part I forgot. Jack Campbell without Alex Anzalone being the captain. That's the snap count opening. So that was that. But yes, ⁓ Sonny Styles. I have the rookie Sonny Styles at my number two overall linebacker. ⁓ Bobby Wagner. ⁓ Daniel: It's hard to put rookies that high. Jonathan: ⁓ yes, yes, yes, mhm. Ambiance. Me Mario: And Bobby Wagner coming into this season has the chance to have the most tackles of any linebacker in history. it's possible for him to break it. So, you have that kind of talent and Sonny Styles is coming in that way with Dan Quinn, I I'm like, yeah, I could see this being being pretty awesome. Right from the get. Jonathan: You're not wrong. I originally think I had him at like four or five, but I'm like, I can't put a rookie this high. I just can't. And I and I moved him down. ⁓ Sonny sits at thirteen for me. And I'm not the lowest. Daniel, you have him at fifteen. Daniel: Mm. Me Mario: That's fair. Daniel: I love him and I have him at fifteen. I just I I think that they're gonna work him in a little slower than anticipated. That's all. But I think I think number two is the ceiling. And again, we do it high, medium, low, right? I think ⁓ I think ⁓ two is a ceiling this year. I think it's in the realm of possibilities, but Jonathan: ⁓ absolutely. Absolutely. Me Mario: Okay. Jonathan: There, there. Yeah. you're gonna like think you're gonna like Daniel: Yeah. After the conversation we just had, yeah. Yeah. So d John, tell us who you have number one. Me Mario: Na yeah. Jonathan: I gave it like that. Yeah. I'm like, I gotta add ⁓ to my list for where I put ⁓ Yeah, okay, I'm like, where are you gonna look at? So N number ⁓ I are J Jordan Brooks. Yeah, it was Jordan Brooks. I w you're good. Yeah, you're good. You're good. ⁓ Jordan Brooks. It's my number one. It's your number two. It's Mario's number four. So and it came down to just ⁓ play count. ⁓ snap count. He's on the field more. He was and I r he's such a talented ⁓ like he always on the ball, always there. I don't know, he's got good vision, like ⁓ it's a great pick, so Daniel: ⁓ I'm sorry, did I miss that? Me Mario: Mm. Daniel: He's my number two. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Daniel: Excuse me. Me Mario: Yeah, he's a phenomenal player. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, I think it finished really high last year. It was number two or number one. It was really high last year. So it's I ha it's it's it's not doubling down. I think it's just really gonna do it again. So but my number three I think we'll jump because we already talked two was ⁓ Jack Campbell. Two, two. Yeah, we did your twos as well. Three is Carson Swessinger and this kid is absolutely fucking talented. Me Mario: Yep. Daniel: Hmm. Me Mario: Same. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, you have him at three, Mario, you ha or Daniel, you have him at four. And Daniel, I know that you're crying just as much as me because you had him. I mean you dropped him. I had him and I dropped him. And now he's gonna be a keeper for another team. Daniel: Yep. I did not know that. ⁓ yeah. Yeah, that hurt. That hurt. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ yeah, I I I really didn't want to drop ⁓ but it but it came down to a bye week and I'm like, I need to win this week, I can't lose and Yeah. I didn't want to have an open slot and you know, so yeah. Daniel: Yeah. I I drafted for the future for the first time in that league, for the first you know, time that we drafted for that league as a keeper. But my team was possible. My defense because I I invested too much on that was so bad and then there's so many better things on IDP sometimes inside the waivers that I I fell victim to the impatience of I need to win now. I can't be doing this and I failed. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: It's okay. ⁓ so I dropped him because ⁓ they the report read a high ankle strain, and with high ankle sprains we know it's a four to six week thing, right? Well he played the following week. Daniel: Mm. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: He played the following week. And was monster and monster numbers. And I can't remember if it was Martin or Jose that had him, but I totally fucking was lost like, son of a bitch, good for you. I fucking hate you. And yeah, he's he's gonna tag him for sure. You know he's gonna tag ⁓ so ⁓ yeah, how do you not? Daniel: And put up and put up numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ he he's got to. Me Mario: Yeah. Well you you you guys have next on your list a guy that I dropped because of the news I heard coming out of the camp. And in our Dynasty League, my uncle Robert, ⁓ that's part of the reason he did so well. Daniel: You might Jonathan: ⁓ yeah. Daniel: Swooped ⁓ up. I've gotten n Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah he's the eagle on the f on the waiver wire. Rope on Smith. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. Roquan Smith. I yeah, I have him at three. You guys have ⁓ Swessinger at three, so Me Mario: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Yeah, ⁓ he's my number I got f I got four for Rokwan, so he he sits there, he's he's doing really well. So gonna have a good year. Daniel: Mario's ⁓ it it looks like Mario's ⁓ list reflects the reason why he dropped him though. So he's not even on Mario's list. Me Mario: I Jonathan: ⁓ I I'm thinking the same thing. Yeah, he's not even on a seventeen. Yeah, no, not at all. No respect whatsoever. So ⁓ Me Mario: That's true. I I don't have him on my list. He he was losing steps out there, and then got a fire under his butt and started ⁓ hitting it y again, so Jonathan: Well, I'm gonna tell you that we may have him at four and three respectively, and then fantasy pros, they have him at four, and it's in the tier one bracket. I just wanna tell you that. Just so you know, Mario, not even on your list. Just so you know. As old. It's a bold strategy cotton. Me Mario: Yeah, I see he could be he could be up there that high with Trey Hendrickson over there and him having to plug the hole. But I don't know how Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: I don't think he's just gonna be tackles galore for this man, but I don't know, it's just me. Me Mario: It it very well could be. It very well could be. Jonathan: Yeah, I think it's just galore. Okay, so let's see. ⁓ Daniels four was Carson Swissinger. Yeah, four, four, and five. So Mario. Daniel: Five. Me Mario: Edgar Cooper. Jonathan: Ed Grin Cooper. I I don't even have him on my list. So ⁓ I do I do. ⁓ man, I do. I I you know ⁓ I was trying to just give respect. He could fit in my top fifteen. That was ⁓ honorable mention there at seventeen. Yeah. Honorable mention. Daniel: Edrin Cooper. Yes you do. I don't. Me Mario: ⁓ no you do. You got him at seventeen. Daniel: I was high on him until Green Bay traded for Zaire Franklin. And then I went kicked him off the list. Jonathan: you know Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: I get that. I get that. I mean, you know. Gave Zaire a good spot on my team on my on my list so, but you know, I get that. Yeah. Is Zaire the one I missed? Yeah, yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: That's ⁓ yeah. Zaire went on my list and Cooper went off my list. It's basically exactly what happened. So Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Well, I mean technically seventeen, he's not really on my list. That's just honorable mention, right? We're meant to be fifteen, one thing fifteen, yeah, I guess. We all got a little zealous and we're like, extra names Daniel: Yeah. He's the honorable mention. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Me Mario: So the the reason why I put him on my list is because the new Green Bay coordinator is Ganon over there. And I think he's gonna fit the scheme a little bit, ⁓ for some trick stuff over there. And I I can't wait to see him just fly around and do stuff over there. ⁓ I could be completely wrong on this. but that that was why. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah. No, I mean I I have him as an honorable mention 'cause I just had to put him there. I felt he's gonna have a good season, so I think he did good. I think five's a little high, but I think he did good. So now we'll mention ⁓ Daniel, I like your pick. Although I don't think Daniel: Yeah. Folyasara Folia Sarah or Kun. Jonathan: I I did no, I have him at my six. Yeah, I have right behind you. I'm in number six with him. I I I would be technically number five, 'cause my number six is a what if. It's like an Aaron Donald, right? I'm going an Aaron Donald route. So but yeah, I like your four side Olakun. I I have him at ⁓ six. ⁓ super talented, ⁓ just tackle, tackle, tackle. You never yeah. Yes. Incredible yeah, incredibly dependable. Does not get injured. It's like he's a robot or something out there. Me Mario: Yes. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: And I've got ⁓ at seven. Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Daniel: Never leaves the field. No Devin Lloyd. Me Mario: Incredibly dependable. Jonathan: ⁓ my number five, Ernest Jones. ⁓ my god, yes. I you know, hey, some people make mistakes, though. ⁓ you know, you just gotta jump on them. Did you jump on him? Did you jump on him? Good man. Good. See, and it's nice to like rub that in your uncle's face and be like, look what you did. Did you make this man? And then you know, tag, tag, tag, tag. So you don't feel so bad about Carson's. You yeah, you're like, you're out of. Me Mario: Yeah. Daniel: Now Uncle Robert dropped Olacoon and I picked him up. Mm mm. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Daniel: I did. I d he did I did. Me Mario: Ha ha. Daniel: Mm tag, tag, tag. I I got a con consolation prize and they are four and five on my list, so Jonathan: I can tell you, okay, so at six now I can talk about my consolation prize, because he's not even on an NFL fucking team right now. Devin White. No, Ernest Jones. Ernest Jones. ⁓ yeah, we didn't ⁓ yeah, we didn't earn it. ⁓ Ernest Jones. He's a beast. He's a beast. And I had to put him in my top five. I c I like mm I contemplated it for but I had to give respect to Rokwan. Rokwan's just Rokwan, so you know. Daniel: You're at five. Who's your number five? Okay. Me Mario: Yeah, Ernest Jones is awesome. Yeah. I I got him at eight. He's he's high on my list too, but I see that you you guys have him higher. We expect a lot from him this year. Jonathan: Yeah, and Daniel you have him at six. Yeah. Daniel, you have him at six. Well, ⁓ yeah. High, medium, low. Yeah, we're all ⁓ you know, nothing too crazy, but ⁓ so Daniel: Six on mine. Mm-hmm. number s Devin White, or Mario's number six. Jonathan: Number six. Me Mario: My number six is Nate Landman. ⁓ just to throw you some just you know, one of the Rams we didn't mention yet. I Jonathan: Someone in the internet. Yeah. Daniel: Ha ha ha. Jonathan: Yeah. Ha ha. Daniel: If that doesn't tell you what kind of defense that's gonna be this year. Jonathan: Yeah, I know. Well, I mean, I'm just gonna keep saying this team's buying they're just walking into another Super Bowl. It's because it's in LA again. You know, they wanna be both their recent Super Bowls were in their stu new stadium. So it's like I that's that's a that's a I don't know. I know the Bucks did it first, but as a Rams like as talking to a Rams fans, I think if they get to do it twice it's a big F you to us. Me Mario: He's a he's a badass. Yeah. Jonathan: Like we you may have done it first, but we did it better because we did it twice. I don't know. Hey, I look I I talk a lot of shit to Rams Rams fans and Raiders fans. No, you never forget your first. And I always said we we did it first. And so that's that's what I cut like I get to throw out there is we did it first. You know, but like if they do it like we did it twice, that's kind of good for that's I don't know. No, that's like that's really good. That's really good. Me Mario: I don't know, you you you you never forget the first time. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Me Mario: It's it's cute that you copied me twice. Jonathan: Hey yeah. Yeah, I don't know if that's gonna work. But I'll try that. I'll try that. I'll try that. Okay, well Devin White. I bet at number six in Devin White. See, Devin White, if he gets the right scheme, and we've been over this, if they use him in the right scheme and the he's good at run pass, bad at pass protection, ⁓ you know, he's gonna be a tackle machine just like he was for the Raiders this year. He finished at what, number two or number three on the season in tackles? I mean Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Daniel: And so so John yeah, there you go. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: was literally a fucking machine. So it blows my mind. I get it. I I understand that he's bad in pass protection, but I just don't I can't fathom that a team has not snagged him up for ⁓ even just like veteran backup or here, watch this running back, you know, fuck, we need to stop this guy, right? So I don't know. Daniel: Yeah. Practice squad at least. Me Mario: Yeah, top half of the first picks, they get lots of run. So somebody's gonna sign him. Jonathan: Someone will sign him. He'll end up somewhere. And so I had to put him on my list. six. Yours was ⁓ Ernest Jones, Daniel, and then yours is Laman. So Mario, take us away with your number seven. ⁓ you have you have old coon at yours. Okay. Old coon. Well Daniel. We do. Me Mario: That's where I have a coon on mine. Mm-hmm. And then you guys have someone different. But the funny thing is you guys have two different guys on the same team. Daniel: We're in direct competition. That's right. So, ⁓ I have Jihad Campbell. ⁓ I think ⁓ yeah. So I think that Zach Braun through his entire career has had a pretty high rate of missed tackles and the year that he came out and was all pro Jonathan: Go your eagle first. Yeah. Daniel: is an outlier in his whole career. He's he so he was still good, but he wasn't to that level. And when Jihad Campbell was on the field, he was a top linebacker in the league. He was putting up production. He was doing everything that was asked for. And then when Nicobe Dean came out, for whatever reason they benched Campbell and put Dean in, even though their defense suffered for it. So no Nicobe Dean, possibly Zach Bronsing in the same position that he's been at historically in his career without that outlier. He's gonna be the linchpin in the middle of the field for the Eagles. And I think he's just gonna eat. Me Mario: And that's why I have him at ten. Yeah. I Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah, I'm seeing that. I went with Bond. I figured Bond was gonna do well. He did well last year, I don't know. I just Me Mario: He and he might Daniel: He did well. Yeah. He did he is an epic like he was the year before. Considering he had like a a like a thirteen percent tackle miss rate, like he's that for him to still be doing well was was pretty awesome for his on his behalf. Jonathan: No, no. Yeah, no. Yeah. Okay. ⁓ number eight. ⁓ Fred Warner was my number eight. That dude is a tackle machine. Yeah, he is a tackle machine. And I just I don't know. Not even not even on your list. Yeah, no, I see that. Me Mario: I love that. Daniel: I didn't even ⁓ he's one that I didn't even think about. That's a bummer. Me Mario: So for Yeah, I I saw you list him and I was like, man And then I like, I don't even want to cheat, but yeah it's it's all good. I I I didn't think I didn't think about it. But the only thing I can say is that Fred Warner, ⁓ they have Greenlaw back. and Fred Warner he the impact he makes on the field doesn't always reflect in the stat lines. Jonathan: Yes. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah. I just gonna leave ⁓ off and say yeah. Jonathan: No. Mm-hmm. Me Mario: but when they do, he's a monster, man. So I I ended up still leaving him off, but I hope, I hope he's a top ten. For hi for him, 'cause just cause he's an awesome dude. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah, he's just tackle machine. Yeah. I don't know. Consistent with tackles, so that's what Yeah. No, very true. He's a good coverage man. Yeah, he's very good coverage dude. No, you're not wrong. Daniel: Yeah. I love Fred Warner. Me Mario: Not n not just tackle. That that man has a Yeah, he's the best Daniel: Yeah. Interception, coverage. He's the best linebacker in the league. Yeah. It's just yeah. He he's he's yeah. Me Mario: Interceptions, force fumbles. Yeah. Jonathan: Hm He's a monster. No, I like him. That's it's called a machine yeah, he's a tackle machine though. I like when they're very consistent with lots of tackles, I like to see consistency with that. It's just I feel that Brit like that's the way I'll search my linebackers out is somebody that's super consistent in that in that aspect. So Daniel: He's a monster. Yeah. That's exactly why I have my number eight where I have him is Tremaine Edwins. Tremaine Edmonds, Chicago Tackle Machine. Jonathan: I love your number eight. Yeah, I love your number eight. Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, no, I love your number eight. I have he's number ⁓ number eleven. He's on my ⁓ he's number eleven on my list, so Disrespect Mario My goodness. No, I I I although I am seeing some of your names and I'm liking your names and I'm like I'm sad that they're not on my list, but at the same time I had to throw respect to some of these names. But I do Me Mario: Yeah. Another good dude. I feel bad. I didn't put him on there and I just another one I didn't think about. Daniel: Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Yeah, that's my bad. Jonathan: Yeah, I do like your number twelve though that I I'm wondering why I didn't put that on my list. He should be on my list. Anyway, ⁓ okay, so eight, eight, eight. We've been over nine. ⁓ Mario, you just shifted things around. I'll let you take it that way, yeah. Daniel: Take it away. Me Mario: Okay, so I've got Nick Benito at number nine of of Denver. ⁓ well, it's just cause ⁓ my spell check Jonathan: Yeah, I was just like I just watched things change. So Me Mario: spell checked somebody's name and I just saw it so I just changed it. ⁓ but the the order order hasn't changed at all. But yeah, Nick Nick Benito with Dre Greenlaw gone. And I just think he's so talented. It's his everyone says it's his get off. So he's so quick. he's he's shown that he can be up here. Jonathan: ⁓ okay. ⁓ yeah. No, I I wanted to put him higher. He was higher. I have him I moved him down to sixteen though. I just I had other names. Daniel: lower ⁓ I he's n he's not on my list anymore either. I was super high on him, but I I my number nine is also a Bronco though. I like Singleton. ⁓ I think coming back coming back healthy in the middle of that field Jonathan: Yeah. On my list too. Yeah. I like Alex Singleton. Yeah, I have a number eighteen. Guy. Hmm. Honorable mention. But yeah, I liked him. ⁓ mine, Clay Walker. ⁓ I I I don't know. When I'm ranting out my top ten, I just again consistency, tackles, the things I look for, I just this guy's always in, he's always on it. And ⁓ I don't know. Me Mario: Yeah. He's he's awesome. Yep. Mm-hmm. Jonathan: You know, you like what they're doing there, so I like why I like why Me Mario: I I agree. I we Dani Daniel and I both have him at thirteen. He's he's up there for us too, right there in that range. Jonathan: ⁓ I didn't even look. Yeah, I didn't okay. I like that. So look at you I'm all right, so we're close. We're in the end. We're close. I'm a little higher on ⁓ but okay. ⁓ I like okay, so you're number nine. ⁓ was Alex Singleton. I like that. Nine nine nine. So ten. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Yeah. All right. Me Mario: Yeah, ten John. Daniel: Go ahead, John. Jonathan: ⁓ Okay, ⁓ Devin Bush. More ⁓ more more love to the Bears. And ⁓ it was it was a phenomenal signing. Yeah. He's gonna do he's doing much better here. So ⁓ just love to the and I got ⁓ paired right next to each other, ten and eleven. So with Trmaine Edmonds right below ⁓ at eleven. So I yeah. Me Mario: Yeah. Yeah it was. Heck yeah it was. Daniel: Yeah, that was a great signing. Yeah. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: I don't know. I just think theirs are g they're they're gonna do really well. I I like your yours you're the highest on f on Franklin, I think though. So Daniel: Nice. Me Mario: I think so. Daniel: ⁓ for sure. Tana is where I have Zaire Franklin. ⁓ that's that's where I would have listed Cooper. ⁓ but when they traded for Franklin, they're saying that he's basically taking the job that Cooper was going to go into and be running the middle of that defense. And so it was a snip and paste. So Jonathan: Right. Yeah. Yeah, he became ⁓ an instant tag when they did that and moved him to the Green Bay and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna tag you and you Me Mario: Okay. Yeah. Daniel: Mm-hmm. There just there was just rumblings that Cooper wasn't picking up the defense like they wanted him to, and so they traded for for Franklin. So I just think that, you know, Cooper might have a rough year at the this year, but once he starts getting acclimated onto Gannon's defense, which is notoriously hard to understand, he he'll be great. But they brought in Zaire Franklin. Mm-hmm. Me Mario: Okay. Yes it is. Jonathan: People are slower picking things up. Yeah. Well, I like that that's a good pick, so I like Franklin. I have Franklin at fourteen myself. And saying it is you, Mario. So yeah, very nice. Okay. ⁓ your number ten. ⁓ we w what we talked about jihad yeah. Yeah, we talked about jihad, so Me Mario: As do I. Daniel: Nice. Eleven. Yeah, jihad Campbell already. Mario's got him. So Mario, tell us about it your eleven. That makes me kinda sick. It puts a bad taste in my mouth so you can hear him on this list. Me Mario: Yep. Aziz El Shair Jonathan: ⁓ I wanted to put ⁓ on my list too though. I like this game. I I Me Mario: He he has such a motor on him, which can be a problem sometimes. But he on that defense, yeah. He just keep he just has the freedom to get after it. And he does so. So yeah, I got him at eleven. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. I like that. That's i it's not a bad pick. ⁓ your landman. Okay, so we went over your landman 'cause this is where you have landmen. And I guess I don't have landman on my list. Daniel: I went land on that list. Jonathan: Yeah, you went lame then. Me Mario: But at number twelve, you're the highest of someone that we n we love. Yeah. Jonathan: On Alex Anzolo. Hell yeah. Well you guys are sixteen and fifteen. So we're at least close. I'm the highest. I don't know. I'm just again throwing love at our bucks. ⁓ I really like this signing. I thought this was a good signing personally. Yeah, I really like the signing. So I'm happy to see him come in. I think I would like to see year two with him and now he does. And when he turns around. Now I'd love him Daniel: Yeah. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. ⁓ me too. Jonathan: both your twelves and Daniel your twelve maybe throw him on my list at fifteen. So ⁓ I will say that. But I like your ⁓ Arvell Reese. That is a phenomenal pick there in number twelve. You're giving you're giving the ⁓ rookie some mad respect to get in number twelve. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Our values. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. ⁓ Daniel: I am. I mean number fourth overall pick, right? Or was it fifth overall pick? And ⁓ I think it was fifth. And I think that he's gonna have to be a monster in the middle of that field in order for that defense to be any bit successful 'cause they don't have anybody on the center of that line, so Me Mario: Yeah. Jonathan: F I there was F yeah. Me Mario: Fifth, yeah. Yeah. Jonathan: ⁓ he's he's got the athletics so he's he and ⁓ I hope he's got the attitude so yeah. Mm. Me Mario: I agree. Daniel: He's size, athletics, intelligence. They're saying work ethic. So I mean, we didn't know I was a little skittish about drafting him because they were talking about making him a tweener like it like ⁓ Parsons and that that hurts the production. That's why Parsons isn't on any of our lists. Like it means it's an awesome football on the field benefit and he's irreplaceable in on the field. But ⁓ Me Mario: For fantasy it's it's awful. Jonathan: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Daniel: But it doesn't translate to fantasy. And so but when they said that they were just gonna use him as as a wheel linebacker to start with and and they're talking about keeping him off ball, I was like, I'm all in now, you know, in blitz packaging and stuff like that. So he's gonna be I think he's gonna be a monster. I'm hoping he's gonna be a monster. Jonathan: They Yeah. Now, Mario, I love your number twelve. Yeah. Demetrius Nae. I love this pick. He doing great with the Bengals, man, and ⁓ Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Daniel: Like your twelve though. Yeah. Me Mario: ⁓ yeah. Jonathan: Man, I I I d I drafted him with hopes that I would tag him. And he did well, but I, you know, had other players. I guess if Devin White doesn't sign anywhere, I have Dyer Franklin and then I've got to look at Demetrius Knight as my second tag. So Yeah. Me Mario: Yeah, he's ⁓ I th I think overall that that defense is gonna be not what they were. So I I think they're actually gonna put up a fight and he's gonna be a strong reason for that. Daniel: Yeah, they got sexy Dexie in the middle now. Me Mario: Yes they do. And so when Dexter Lawrence is there, you got two to three guys on him. ⁓ I think Demetrius Knight's gonna take advantage of that. Jonathan: Yeah. That's a big help. Yeah. Yeah. And that's big help with sexy dexie there. Okay, so we've been over Quay Walker with your two thirteens. My thirteen is Sonny Styles. We've been over that one. ⁓ Zaire Franklin's My Fourteen, we've been over. We went over your fourteen with Bush and Franklin. My fifteen is Arvel Reese, Sonny Styles, Alan Sanzalone. Okay, we're Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Ooh. Jonathan: Have we rounded out our list? No. We did Benito. Yeah, we did Benito. Me Mario: Daniel's got the last one here at seventeen. Jonathan: Yeah, you're holding you're holding your number seventeen is all that left and remains. Daniel: Blake Cashman. Me Mario: And I hope so. I hope so, man. Jonathan: Wait, Cashman. Yeah, I do hope so too. ⁓ yeah. Me Mario: Dallas Turner and Blake Cashman, if they can step it up a little bit more to be top twenty at their positions, that'll say a lot for the Vikings. Jonathan: Turn it around there. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. ⁓ yeah. No, and ⁓ Fantasy Pros has him incredibly high. They've got him ranked at number six. So we are not showing love. Yeah, we are not showing love. I tried not to look at their list and I only compared my list to their list after the fact and I'm like, whoa. ⁓ Whoa. I hope people listen to us after this episode. ⁓ Daniel: Wow. We're not showing love. Hmm. Yeah. Me Mario: See that? Daniel: Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. Me Mario: And I'm I'm trying not to overrate all the guys I have on my dynasty team, so there's that too. I'm I'm like I'm like pe push push push him down a little bit, push him down a little bit. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah, you know, you give it love. Give it yeah, well I think that's why lot too is not a lot of our Daniel: Yeah, I definitely am guilty of that for sure. Yeah. yeah. The sunny s Sonny Styles at fifteen for me is is partially because he went at number three instead of where I was sitting at number four. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Mm. Pues sí, sí. Daniel: I thought for sure Mendoza was gonna go at three and Styles was gonna be there and I was excited and then I saw him go off the board and that just crushed me. It made me so sad that I the next pick is probably the best thing for my fantasy team, which was Mendoza, and it still made me depressed to pick that pick in. Jonathan: Yeah. ⁓ yeah. No, you ha it's sad. No, 'cause in it it's a d it's a ⁓ super flex league. The QB matters and I think it was the best big for you. ⁓ I know, trust me. It's so let me throw this out there. Daniel: ⁓ it it w even even if I had the choice between Styles and Mendoza, Mendoza should have been my pick, but I would have picked Styles. Me Mario: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: I'm sorry, this is bringing up two thousand twelve to draft to meet again. Did this feel like Luke Keekly getting taken right before you? Daniel: ⁓ I was so pissed. Me Mario: Yes. Yes. Because Luke Keekley loved Luke Keekly actually had a favorite linebacker in this draft. Do you know who it was? Daniel: I was so pissed. Jonathan: ⁓ no, who? Please notice. Me Mario: Rodriguez. Daniel: Yeah. That's a lot of people's favorite linebacker in this draft. Jonathan: ⁓ okay. Okay. Me Mario: And so he he talked to several of these linebackers and Rodriguez is the guy he came away with saying 'cause his was his favorite. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. I love me some Keegles. So Alright, well, thank you for listening to us at this point. ⁓ we we love all you mortals for sticking with us and staying this long. ⁓ tune in next episode. ⁓ we will try next week to get in our ⁓ D Bs. We got our defensive backs, we have our team defenses and kickers, because kickers are people too. ⁓ so Me Mario: Well, Heck yeah. And team defenses. Jonathan: Yeah, team defenses, defensive backs, and kickers. So it should be a really good episode. ⁓ tune in for the rest of the your defensive roster right into the show if you have any questions. FFWC two three at gmail.com. And as always Daniel: Stay vigilant, soldiers. Mortals. Mortal Me Mario: That's right.