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Dream Team Pt 2 · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the Boundary Corner Podcast along with my
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  partners, Brian Siegler, a later Robin Jonathan Talley.
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  He will be here in a few minutes.
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  He is skidding down the road to get to his house.
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  And as always, our favorite high school coach, Robbie Compton.
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  I am Curtis Wilson and as always, we are brought to you by
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  Check them out, fellows Levar always joining us.
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  What's up, Levar, Brian, Robbie, Fellas, how's summertime going
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  for y'all so far? Robbie asked me early.
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  He's like, you got to top off that Jeep yet.
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  I said yeah, I had it off a few times and been rolling around
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  having some good times in the Jeep and trying to try to stay
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  dry because it's been rainy as shit in Richmond.
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  Yeah. Yeah, we've been hot and on the
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  field and trying to prepare for another season, getting things
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  together on the high school side of things so.
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  Wait what what what wait out wait room every day get them in
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  there we. Start every, We start every day.
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  We do check in at 7:30, weights at 8 speed, Agility development
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  usually about 9:00 and then skill development 10 to 10/30,
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  10:45 somewhere around there. So we're it's good 2 1/2, almost
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  3 hours every day of trying to prepare some young folks for
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  four years of high school football.
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  Hoping to get one or two to play after that.
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  Robbie let let me ask this because obviously the kids are
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  working out, how much work are y'all doing?
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  Like are you, are you in tape? Like basically kids leave.
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  Are you just looking at tape from basically noon to six O
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  clock at night? No, no, no, it, it takes a lot
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  of, you know, well here we've got a, a brand new turf field
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  and, you know, some stadium renovation and stuff.
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  OK. Getting, you know, but a lot of
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  our stuff is like you said, it's some film work, preparing some
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  stuff, just doing grounds work around keeping their practice
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  field ready and stuff like that. You know, we, we do things a
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  little differently than some places.
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  We do a lot of laundry and things like that for the kids.
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  We don't send stuff home with them.
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  We don't ask the parents to, to take care of a lot of that
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  stuff. We do a lot of that stuff on
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  their own. Just things like that.
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  Different plans today we worked on some just trying to get some
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  letters sent out to different local businesses and churches
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  and things to see if we can get some some meals for kids during
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  game days this season, stuff like that.
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  Little logistic things, but that's that's what a lot of the
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  summer is I'm dealing a lot with trying to get licensure stuff
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  finished and taking tests and getting some things like that.
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  Since I changed my license as a teacher, I've gone from, I
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  spent, let's see, 18 years. I spent 13 years in health and
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  physical education and now I'm in special Ed working with their
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  exceptional, exceptional students here and takes a lot to
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  get that stuff going. I worked on some master's
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  classes and doing some, some practice testing to finish that
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  license. So got that on my plate along
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  with all of it to you so. So it's for for you.
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  The offseason is mixed bag being a high school coach.
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  Watch the kids now do do you? Are they allowed in North
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  Carolina for the kids to organize to do 7 O sevens?
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  Oh yeah, go out. OK, because every state's
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  different. Like some states are weird about
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  that shit. Some states you go do that,
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  they'll be like they're all ineligible now.
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  They can't play because they went out and played seven O 7 at
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  your field. No, we have and they can do
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  anything they want to on their own.
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  There are certain times in the summer, there's the week of
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  always the week of the 4th of July in North Carolina.
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  And then there's going to be a week at the end of towards the
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  end of July, what they call Allstate Clinic Week.
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  So they have all of our state rules, clinics, all of those
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  things on that week. Those are considered dead
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  periods. We're not allowed to have
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  contact with the players in a, you know, from a coach's
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  perspective, but the kids can get together and do stuff on
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  their own however they want to. But other than those two day
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  period weeks, you know, we can, we can work with the kids from
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  the last day of school on through the summer, except on
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  Sundays. All right.
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  But I mean, we're, we're there's some limitations on amount of
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  hours a day. There's no supposed to be no
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  more than 3 hours a day. I think there's rules about if
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  you do 2A day deals once the see the pre season stuff starts.
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  If you do with two a day, one day, you have to have so many
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  hours in between the two, so many total hours together and
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  there has to be a day off in between, you know, stuff like
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  that. So it's changed a lot from the
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  time we played where we used to, you know, go at 6:00 in the
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  morning and we'd leave sometimes 6 or 7 at night and we'll
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  practice however long I have many times we needed to.
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  Yeah, them 3A days were no joke. You did you, Ron.
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  You weren't. You never made it to the to the
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  experience at Fort Pickett, did you?
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  I did not. No, that was pre dated me.
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  My freshman year, man, we, we took that trip with Larry Smith
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  and and that crowd to Fort Pickett for the camp.
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  That was something different. Boy, it was just one a day, but
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  it just was all day. Well, you're going to practice.
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  One time long ass practice. Yeah, within that week with a
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  with a Saturday scrimmage where we usually went and showed up
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  and played Attlee and Hampton and we got to see all of that
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  fun, take those butt kickings and come all back home.
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  So. Well, wait, hold on, wait a SEC.
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  Hampton would have been 9. Yes, exactly.
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  So I did. I did the one like Jamboree that
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  they had at U of R that time. You remember that one?
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  Yes, that would have been, I think it would have been my
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  junior year. Yeah, I think that's right.
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  Yeah, Hampton. Hampton was there at that one
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  too, and they were still. Yeah.
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  Crushing. Whipping and you had you had the
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  the Ronald Curry's and the the ones like that from Hampton.
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  Yeah, it was. It was quite an adventure.
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  So those. Are what you say.
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  See. See that?
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  Say now I'm going down a rabbit hole here.
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  Oh, here he comes. Pull them in here.
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  Look at it, Sally. He had it.
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  Shelton. Looks different.
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  And all of his beauty and glory. Little little little, fluffy and
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  swollen. Don't get it wrong, I'm nowhere
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  near as smart as Shelton is. Oh yeah, you pretty good.
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  You make up the brunt. You make up the brute with the
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  with what we lack in brain, I guess we're just talking about.
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  The old school football days and how different it is now.
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  Yes. Well, they would tell us they're
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  talking about going to Jamboree and our little high school
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  having to go up against Hampton High School where all those
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  studs played Ronald Curry. I can't imagine seeing that.
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  I mean, I can't imagine seeing. I can't imagine seeing that I've
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  seen some good football players, but that that's next level.
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  So the problem we had is that we were like the most rural AAA
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  school in the whole damn state. Easily.
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  Easily. Absolutely.
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  I remember my first. I remember my first varsity
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  playing time. I was tied in.
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  We played a school called Mcadore High School.
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  That's what Bo Jackson went to high school at and I was 9th
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  grader and I've seen the I was the third string tight end and
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  I've seen the first two tight ends get knocked out of the
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  game. Everybody on their team had gold
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  teeth. They had they had gold teeth and
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  goatees. I was in 9th grade.
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  They had a kid on their team that went to Alabama.
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  His name was Matt Caddell. He played wide receiver.
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  They called Mackadore Smackadore.
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  That's how good they would they would kill people.
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  They beat us like 56 to 0. This kid, Matt Caddill, they
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  called him the pocket Rocket. He ran A4240 and if you kicked
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  him the ball, he was running it back.
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  I think he I think he had three touchdowns against us.
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  He's the fastest person I've ever seen on the field.
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  And I've seen Tyrone Prothrow on the field too.
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  He was pretty fast, but Matt Caddell was the fastest human
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  I've ever seen with a football in his hand.
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  I. I can tell you a fast one that
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  I've seen and y'all will know the names Mr. David Wilson.
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  Oh yeah, I heard about that. I.
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  Didn't have to play. Against him, that's a that's AI.
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  Couldn't imagine seeing some of that like.
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  I still ain't figured that. Look, that man, The last time, I
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  think it was the last time I coached against him, I think it
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  was a senior year, He had 260 yards rushing and five
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  touchdowns, and I don't know how many he would have had if he'd
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  like got thrown out in the third quarter for doing the somersault
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  in the end zone. Yeah.
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  Well, with something that was 15 years ago, I still didn't
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  figured out how to stop him, right?
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  Him landed on his neck unfortunately is what finally
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  stopped him. I well let's get into it.
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  What we're doing tonight couple weeks ago we did the offensive
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  hokey dream team tonight we're going to do the defensive hokey
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  dream team, but we got a few things to unload before we get
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  there as always, and I want to start with basketball.
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  Alex called it out just a couple seconds ago with Hokies
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  basketball. Might be back Because I y'all,
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  y'all, they y'all want me to pronounce this right.
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  Go for it man. You got to do this one.
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  You got. F Dallas, I think that's the
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  pronunciation officially signed. We just call him Neo.
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  Neo, call him Neo and. The one I mean the one, the one
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  but. Legitimately, without a shadow
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  of a doubt, the I mean, no, no disrespect to Rodney Rice, but
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  literally the best recruit Mike Young has ever pulled.
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  This kid was legitimately going to get drafted somewhere in the
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  second round of the NBA this year.
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  He chose to defer smart, in my opinion, because I think he's
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  going to tear it up. So, Tally, does Mike Young have
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  an excuse not to win games this year?
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  Mike? Young, I'm going to give him a
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  pass today, man, he done good today.
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  So I'm going to just keep quiet and we're going to see what he
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  going to do. I did see a quote where he said
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  he said that the basketball team was just better this year.
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  I'm like, well, I fucking hope so.
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  But I think, I think that it will be.
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  So we'll see. We'll see what he got.
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  I mean, you got to have some, you got to have some some talent
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  to play. I mean, it's not the SEC but the
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  ACC. You got to have some talent and
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  some length to play there. So hopefully he has that in in
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  this year's team. I mean, I think we finally got a
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  a good combination of enough ball handlers with a really good
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  amount of size down low, but with most everybody still able
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  to step out, hit the shot outside if they need to with,
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  with an exception here or there. It's really lining up to to be
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  definitely the most talented top to bottom we've been in the last
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  handful of years, definitely since the the ACC Championship
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  run. Keith.
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  That group, Keith alumina? Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah. So yeah, at least the most
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  talented since that group, at least top to bottom.
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  I feel like you, you actually have a starting five, you feel
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  pretty good about it. A couple guys coming off the
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  bench that can hold their own. I don't think we really had that
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  since then. You know, I think you got a
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  whole lot of potential. We've got to see if they put the
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  pieces together and that they play like a team and can win
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  like a team. But as far as just the
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  individual parts right now, it's definitely looking pretty good.
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  That's what I want to see from Mike Young more than anything
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  because a couple of those teams, 20/20/2019 right 2019-2020
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  1/20/21 there were times where early they just didn't they look
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  disjointed and you looked and said, well, these are talented.
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  He can't have that happen this year.
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  Like there's too much talent to have that funk of well, I got to
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  figure out everything. No, you, you got to figure that
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  out this year. And if not, you've got to either
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  let Lowell attack or Neo do his thing because that kids been
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  playing with grown ass men in the Greek league and been
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  putting up somewhere between 7 and 10 points a game.
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  Got looked at that the NBA and that's I think Tally you've kind
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  of there's been numerous times in the last four years Again, we
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  don't are we as intense on basketball as where football, no
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  basketball lasts from October to March.
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  It's a long way. You get too intense, you get
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  burned out. But you've always said Tally,
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  I'll never forget this. We just don't have a player that
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  we literally can say here's the ball, please go get us the next
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  6 points, right? And I think that's where Neo, it
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  looks like he could be that guy. It's just like he go.
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  Let me step back. Most of the teams that you see
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  that are, you know, good teams have a dude like that.
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  They can just take over the game, create his own shot, draw
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  double teams to be able to kick the ball.
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  I mean, Mike Young has to draw up some stuff for us to get
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  shots off and usually we've got, you know, 6 foot guards trying
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  to shoot over 6 foot guards on the other team.
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  Had to get longer, had to get bigger and you had to get more
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  talented. So seems like he's done that.
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  So I mean, I'm, I'm hoping the best.
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  I like watching basketball. You know, I don't dislike Mike
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  Young, think people think I dislike him.
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  I don't dislike him. I just, I didn't get that.
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  I don't get the hype from nothing.
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  Like if you if you ain't winning, you just ain't winning
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  so. You talk about being intense in
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  Virginia Tech basketball. I mean, I've spent the last 25
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  years and working everything I can in high school football.
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  Last thing I remember about Virginia Tech basketball is Ace
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  Custis so. Throw it back, Riley.
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  I'm trying. I'm trying guys.
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  Well, basically, I think once you once November hits, you just
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  want to go to sleep for six weeks, get home.
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  Thanksgiving and Christmas, then I can get back to football in
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  February. There you go.
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  All right, let's tell Quick. We're going to hit some 2026
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  recruiting. Been a lot of buzz on that.
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  Obviously everybody saw Cornell Warren decommitted, best
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  prospect we had. And then we get Cameron Johnson,
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  the defensive end out of green run down in down in the 7573
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  star guy. And then we get Cam Gillespie
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  out of North Carolina defensive lineman.
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  Probably more shape it up to be AD tackle out of Mooresville
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  High School. But as of right now, 2026 class
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  ain't looking great. You got 4 commits.
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  One of them's a legacy kicker. No disrespect to Will love he's
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  I think they put him as probably the best kicker in the country.
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  But this is usually the time where we start seeing one
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  through a week and by July. We got 1 coming tomorrow or so
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  everyone is saying so. Oh, OK, I don't know about.
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  What's the kicker's name? Well, love, it's John's little
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  brother. What you talking about man?
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  That's the that's the best player we could have.
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  The best player on the team last year was who?
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  Just the love shoot. Got the little?
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  Brother, I'm being I'm being funny.
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  But hey, if the if, if the love can bring the the love like this
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  love, we want to stay with that love.
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  So that might be. Points is points.
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  That may be the. Best automatic from inside 50.
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  Listen, that may be the best recruit that we have.
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  So Mr. Love, get your little brother right.
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  Keep him on hill. I can, I can tell you from a
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  high school perspective, the way things have changed recently,
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  recruiting has gotten a little weird and a little crazy from
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  the high school side of things. And I know, I know Virginia Tech
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  focuses a lot on high school recruiting and things like that.
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  And there, there's been some lag, there's been some craziness
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  with the way some things have changed, kind of waiting for
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  these these rulings and things to come through and figure out
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  what they were going to do. So I wouldn't get too worked up
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  about how it's gone thus far. And that's just my opinion from
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  this side of it. But I mean, it's there's
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  definitely some kids that are sitting back and waiting to see
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  what was going to happen with those whole situations.
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  So it may you may see a a real take off and some things coming
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  soon I think. Yeah.
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  I mean, when we talked about it, we're like we had the Warren
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  decommit. We kind of knew that that wasn't
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  firm even when it happened, right?
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  Like so you know, he said he was still going to take other
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  visits. We knew that his star was rising
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  a little bit when he committed. We knew that some of the bigger
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  dogs in the SEC, we're going to start coming calling.
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  Sounds like that's kind of where, where things went.
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  So, you know, here we are. You know, it sucks losing your
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  best commit. We move forward.
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  We got a couple more. I said when when Warren
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  decommitted, we got about six weeks to get at least eight more
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  in the boat before you can start feeling like this isn't a
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  disaster. And we got 2IN and probably
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  getting one more tomorrow. So we're, we're on a pretty
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  decent track since then. And it's been less than a week
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  since I made that that tweet. So we'll see how it goes.
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  I'm I'm still not feeling great about the 26th class, But like I
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  said in that tweet, I don't know, it's not time to panic,
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  but it's definitely time to need to see some results.
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  And so just looking forward to seeing what prime company can
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  can kind of pull through in the home stretch here.
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  Get like 5 get get 5 kids from high school and get dressed out
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  of the portal because you can figure out who the hell plays
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  high school kids. Dice roll.
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  We're we have to face a harsh reality here too, is there is
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  some some uneasy feelings about what's going on.
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  You know, you got you got a new offensive system and
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  coordinator, you got a new defensive system and
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  coordinator, you got questions about how long do things will
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  hold together and what's going. And that's not easy to recruit
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  kids now when they can make money going anywhere anyway.
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  I mean that that's a harsh reality to it.
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  It is, it is, and right now it isn't.
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  Those colored glasses, I know how this works.
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  Well, mine are getting rosier by the day.
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  So that's the way recruiting's going.
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  We got four in the boat. Hopefully more to come over the
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  next month or so. Hopefully we can talk about it.
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  I know we are working to get somebody on in July to discuss
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  low high school recruiting. Hopefully that comes through.
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  But real quick, before we get into our defensive drinking,
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  Brian did were you able to make a slide for Robbie's offensive
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  stuff or no? I was not, but Robbie, I want
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  you to to to run through it and tell me.
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  Tell me what you got. Lord, let.
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  Me talk on the quarterback. Hold up.
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  Quarterback was was I can remember that one that was easy.
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  That was Tyron Taylor and I you know you'd I'll I'll hear degree
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  especially with people my age. Why wasn't Michael Vick?
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  Hey, Michael Vick was an, they called it the Victoria
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  experience for a reason. But when I'm putting together a
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  whole team and I want to do, I want to run, I want to throw, I
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  want to do it all and with the leadership and with the things
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  like that. Tyrod Taylor just kind of did it
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  for me. I had, I had a little bit
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  different experience. I had a a player at the time
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  that was being recruited that talk to him all the time.
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  I spent a lot of time and a couple of visits with, with the
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  kid that I had there and I hung out with Tyrod's dad quite a
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  bit. So I mean, I got to know the kid
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  and and the way things work. So that's who I went with as my
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  quarterback, my running backs. I said David Wilson, obviously
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  Kevin Jones and Basil Tooten. I just.
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  Me and you Robbie, me and you match for match baby speed.
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  I just like that combination. All three of them had the speed
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  to to break anything at any time and hit the edge, but none of
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  the three of them were ever worried about I got to get to
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  the edge because I'm not going through the mess in the middle.
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  All three of them would hit the mess in the middle and never
• 24:19
  worry about it. And that that was the kind of
• 24:22
  thing I like as a tight end. I had Jeff King and Mr. Bucky
• 24:29
  Hodges because Bucky Hodges was a tight end and Logan Thomas was
• 24:34
  a quarterback. And if you want to fight about
• 24:37
  it, we win. Hey, we got enough of that in
• 24:41
  the comments on that. Oh, we got how you feel about
• 24:44
  that behind you on that, Logan Thomas.
• 24:45
  Yeah, he was pretty firm about that on that last show, though.
• 24:49
  He was. Going to it overall for a
• 24:51
  lifetime. Logan Thomas probably a better
• 24:54
  tight end. Logan Thomas never played sniper
• 24:57
  tight end at Virginia Tech, so I couldn't make him a tight end.
• 25:00
  Didn't he catch a player from Tyrod?
• 25:03
  He did. Possibly I did.
• 25:05
  Robbie, come on. He said possibly.
• 25:09
  I don't know. I know he's coaching at
• 25:12
  Brookville High School in Lynchburg now.
• 25:13
  Yes, he is. Him and Zach McRae, both of them
• 25:16
  coaching down to Brookville. Yeah, Zach McRae.
• 25:19
  That's the name everybody thought was going to be it 15
• 25:23
  years ago. But you know what?
• 25:26
  He's doing good things out there.
• 25:28
  Jason from SWVA What's going on? I, Robbie next.
• 25:35
  Wide receivers We had Antonio Freeman, Eddie Royal, Andre
• 25:41
  Davis, Bron Steele, Carol Vale. Bron Steele.
• 25:48
  Reference Bron. Steele.
• 25:51
  Bron Steele. Bron Steele just had a special
• 25:53
  place in the fact that as a as a young Virginia Tech fan, that
• 25:58
  was the one that I remember that kind of stood out.
• 26:01
  He may not have been the best receiver they ever had.
• 26:04
  I can probably name a lot of them that had better stats
• 26:06
  overall at some point. But a hell of a Sugar Bowl
• 26:09
  though. And I had Brian Steele jersey
• 26:12
  was probably the first Virginia Tech jersey I ever had.
• 26:15
  So it just kind of stuck for me. And Carol Dale is, it's old
• 26:21
  school, but Oh yeah, that name stick forever in.
• 26:25
  Virginia you'll hear it more in my in my offensive line group.
• 26:29
  I'm I'm I'm a pepper some some older guys in there just because
• 26:33
  they had a different kind of mentality when it came to the
• 26:37
  game of football that you can all.
• 26:40
  I can't wait for Tally's face for one of them, just to see
• 26:43
  what he says. But go ahead, Robbie.
• 26:45
  OK, so offensive line we have Dwayne Brown, Jake Grove because
• 26:51
  he's my all time favorite player anyway.
• 26:54
  Wyatt Teller, Christian Darasol, Jim Pyne, Buzz Nutter.
• 27:01
  George. And Blake Dechristopher, I think
• 27:05
  I put too many old lineman in there, but whatever.
• 27:08
  You got Buzz Nutter in there. Buzz Nutter in.
• 27:12
  There, Buzz Nutter and George Priest now.
• 27:15
  I mean, you can. You can go in and look, you're
• 27:19
  not going to find stats with offensive lineman and stuff back
• 27:21
  then they, you know, nobody counted pancakes or stuff in
• 27:25
  their 30s, forties, 50s all those years.
• 27:28
  But they did. But they were made with flour
• 27:30
  and butter. Yeah, exactly.
• 27:31
  Something to be said about their World Championships and the pros
• 27:38
  and their longevity and the years they played.
• 27:41
  That's a different kind of different kind of mentality on
• 27:47
  the offensive line that it takes anyway.
• 27:49
  And you put some guys like that in there and we got something
• 27:52
  it'll teach the rest of those guys a little bit more grit.
• 27:55
  Oh, is grit a cool word that we can say now one time?
• 28:03
  As long as you don't pass down the hill.
• 28:05
  But it was a weird SO. As long as you don't put it on
• 28:10
  the helmet, we'll have an entire monologue about it in the locker
• 28:13
  room. One day.
• 28:15
  I wonder what? I wonder what Fuente is doing
• 28:18
  right now. Central Standard Time.
• 28:23
  10,000,010 million in the bank that's being paid over the last
• 28:28
  few years. He got paid what, like 7 and a
• 28:31
  he got 20 million in the bank. What would you be doing?
• 28:34
  Will he ever coach? Will he ever be a college coach
• 28:36
  of Year I? Don't think he is.
• 28:40
  I don't think he is. I got 40 million in the bank.
• 28:42
  I ain't coaching no more. I ain't.
• 28:44
  Doing shit I'm almost. Certain talk about football.
• 28:50
  All day paid. I mean, man, we really broke
• 28:53
  that man when he then he broke that.
• 28:55
  Man really broke us. I mean, yes, you mean that man
• 29:01
  got money and got it right now? He's doing all right.
• 29:03
  We're the ones still trying to figure out if we can get this
• 29:06
  paid back. We're broke.
• 29:07
  He broke us, but we broke him mentally.
• 29:14
  He ain't even going to try to get back into the game.
• 29:16
  They call it a break up. We broke he up.
• 29:20
  That's what this is. That's what happened.
• 29:27
  All righty. Do we Do we want to hear a recap
• 29:29
  of Tally's Tally's cruise here before we get into things?
• 29:32
  Oh yeah, Tally went on the big, big, big boat.
• 29:35
  No, no, we got to have at least one story.
• 29:39
  I mean, last time it was the Alchemy Bar making you some sort
• 29:43
  of jalapeno Margarita. It was for you.
• 29:47
  It was pandemonium is what it was on this boat.
• 29:51
  I mean, it's like 40 of us that went together, you know, kids,
• 29:58
  grown-ups. At one time I started preaching
• 30:04
  in the he was in the piano bar and they asked me the same.
• 30:07
  And I thought that the drink package told me to preach, so I
• 30:12
  started preaching. It's a video.
• 30:14
  It's a video out there. I'm just saying a.
• 30:17
  Drink package will tell you something.
• 30:18
  That drink package will make you, you know, turn you into a
• 30:21
  different beast. Man, it ain't a lot.
• 30:24
  I've tried my best to hit 15 a day.
• 30:27
  It didn't work, but I mean, I did 15.
• 30:30
  I didn't drink them all. I was giving them away, doing
• 30:32
  whatever I had to do. But it was a good trip, man.
• 30:35
  We had a great trip. We went to the Dominican
• 30:39
  Republic, we went to Puerto Rico, we went to Saint Thomas.
• 30:43
  St. Thomas is beautiful, just like a
• 30:46
  beautiful place, man. It's kind of like, you know,
• 30:49
  being a kid from Alabama and usually seeing like trees and
• 30:52
  skunks and stuff like that to go to a place like, and then like,
• 30:57
  I know what the country looks like.
• 30:58
  You know what I'm saying? I know it when you go to a place
• 31:01
  like Saint Thomas and you just look out, it's not just water
• 31:03
  because I'm not a huge water person, but just like their
• 31:06
  trees look beautiful, you know what I'm saying?
• 31:10
  Like everything is just different.
• 31:13
  You know, the sun shines a little bit different in places
• 31:16
  like that. Looks like a like a storybook
• 31:18
  man. So when we went to the Dominican
• 31:21
  Republic, we didn't go to a beach because we went to a beach
• 31:25
  at the other places. We just pretty much like walk
• 31:27
  the city and went to some shops and ate the local food and stuff
• 31:31
  like that. And that's, you know, that's
• 31:33
  that's I ain't going to say humbling because it wasn't like
• 31:37
  super bad there, but you know, to see people out hustling and
• 31:41
  selling stuff and, you know, trying to make a dollar like it
• 31:44
  just makes you appreciate what you do have.
• 31:46
  So that was cool too, though. It was cool.
• 31:49
  It was, we had a great time. The travel lag is horrible.
• 31:55
  Wife came back with COVID. Damn, we just fucked up over
• 32:00
  here man. I got to ask one question
• 32:02
  because we got you getting drunk.
• 32:04
  The food's always good. By the way, for everyone who's
• 32:07
  never been on the cruise, especially Carnival, do not miss
• 32:11
  Maine Diamond. Ever.
• 32:13
  You better go don't. Ever miss it?
• 32:14
  Go ask Brian. He missed it one night and I
• 32:18
  can't remember what you missed, but you went somewhere else and
• 32:20
  you were like, Nope, not again. I'm not skipping the next night.
• 32:23
  I will tell you, I will tell you on the boat that we went on on
• 32:27
  the Celebration. If anybody thinking about going
• 32:30
  on a cruise, if you can get to the Celebration, go because it's
• 32:32
  got like 30 restaurants. So if you do miss Maine dining,
• 32:37
  Maine dining shoes are good, but it's so many other places to
• 32:40
  eat. Some of them you got to pay for.
• 32:42
  But like they had a chicken place on there, like Shaq's got
• 32:45
  a chicken restaurant on there. Awesome food, You know, of
• 32:48
  course, Guys Burgers, they had a dumpling place, they had a
• 32:52
  loaded fry place, just all type of crap, man.
• 32:56
  So we didn't, I couldn't, I couldn't even get to all the
• 32:59
  places. I didn't even explore the whole
• 33:01
  ship. That's how big you can.
• 33:03
  I mean, I felt like our little ship was big and you started
• 33:05
  talking about like 30 restaurants, like 9 like 18
• 33:09
  stories. It's like, holy shit, do they?
• 33:11
  Do the thing where they divide you like in neighborhoods and
• 33:13
  stuff too. Pretty, it feels like it.
• 33:15
  So we went to Guy Guy Fieri's got a restaurant on there called
• 33:21
  Pig and Anchor. So it's a BBQ restaurant, right?
• 33:24
  So we go to it, it's like the last day and it's maybe 10 of
• 33:27
  us. We go to it.
• 33:29
  We didn't even know they had a whole another bar and Infinity
• 33:34
  pool and hot tubs. All this stuff was behind the
• 33:39
  restaurant and I'm like what is this?
• 33:42
  Because everything on our ship mostly was like on floor
• 33:45
  16/17/18 something like that like this was floor 6 and they
• 33:50
  said Oh yes, pools all around there.
• 33:52
  Y'all didn't y'all ain't been back there.
• 33:53
  I'm like, well this is the last night.
• 33:56
  Yeah we ain't going tonight. So let me just enjoy this smoked
• 34:00
  chicken y'all and gave me last. Piece.
• 34:03
  Last piece What tables did you hit?
• 34:06
  How'd you do in the casino? You make money.
• 34:08
  Oh no, that's pitiful. The reason that they got that
• 34:12
  big night shift is because dummies like me going to that
• 34:15
  casino and leave money there, that's what.
• 34:18
  Don't go to the casino on that. What?
• 34:20
  Smashed you? What got you?
• 34:21
  What gained? Everything, man.
• 34:23
  I mean, I ain't going to say it smashed.
• 34:24
  We did. We probably broke even because I
• 34:26
  lost money and my wife won some. She got on the slot machine and
• 34:28
  won like 450 bucks. But I lost every bit of that.
• 34:32
  Just letting you know beforehand before she did that because she
• 34:36
  only went in that one night. I kind of went in there like 3
• 34:40
  to 4 nights, Got a little time by myself going there, play
• 34:43
  craps, lose a little bit, go back in there, play roulette,
• 34:46
  lose a little bit, play a little blackjack.
• 34:48
  So I lost on everything. I was Virginia Tech on that boat
• 34:52
  in that casino. I was losing every game.
• 34:56
  I was losing them close. I learned from Pride.
• 35:00
  I wasn't just losing. Barely missing them too buddy.
• 35:05
  That's what was happening to me, so.
• 35:07
  Man man was getting 14 all night in blackjack.
• 35:10
  He kept hitting, kept getting 8888.
• 35:13
  Even then, he was getting 20, the dealer was getting a four
• 35:16
  card 21. You just held on to your time
• 35:19
  now. Man.
• 35:24
  I don't, I guess blackjack is the worst.
• 35:26
  Like at least crap that's assembling to luck and you feel
• 35:28
  like sometimes if you get a bad shooter, it's just like, you
• 35:34
  know, it's like, oh man, like, oh, we're going to go good here.
• 35:37
  Let me let me. What is it?
• 35:39
  What was it called? Brian?
• 35:41
  I wish my neighbor Andrew was here.
• 35:42
  The. Let it ride.
• 35:44
  No. Oh.
• 35:45
  God no, no, not that table game. Fuck that table game.
• 35:47
  No, the not the pass line. The one that's above the pass
• 35:51
  line. Oh, you talk about the crap in
• 35:54
  the field? Field.
• 35:55
  Yeah, playing the field. How many times did you play the
• 35:58
  field? Like feeling good.
• 36:00
  And the next thing you know, they roll craps.
• 36:01
  Like you put a good bet down, we go hit a field number here and
• 36:04
  it's like 7. Like not only did I lose my
• 36:06
  parents, I lost. Field.
• 36:09
  I'd rather hit a 7 so everybody loses then hit like freaking 5.
• 36:14
  Nobody wins 5. You ain't.
• 36:16
  I'm not winning nothing if you're betting the field on five
• 36:19
  so. Y'all talking way above my head.
• 36:21
  I don't know anything about any of this.
• 36:23
  Don't learn fish table in there, say.
• 36:25
  Don't learn it. Don't.
• 36:27
  Don't. Don't worry about none of that.
• 36:29
  Robbie. You doing good?
• 36:30
  No. No, no, we're going to take
• 36:31
  Robbie on a cruise with us and get him on the craps table.
• 36:33
  Robbie, have a blast. No, I'll be there, redneck at
• 36:36
  the back of the boat casting my bait caster off the side.
• 36:40
  Oh yeah, they're going to kick you off of that, Robbie.
• 36:42
  Yeah, they will never. You don't like Then again, buddy
• 36:45
  boy. After the big and I couldn't see
• 36:46
  if they took that body all right.
• 36:52
  Well, fellas, let's get into a tally.
• 36:54
  Appreciate you sharing that with us, but let's get into the hokey
• 36:58
  defensive dream team and I'm going to tell you this was a
• 37:03
  pretty hard to do. This was hard like offense.
• 37:06
  It was like two or three people here and there, man.
• 37:09
  It felt like I told y'all. It felt like choosing children.
• 37:16
  I feel like the the last one in, last one out was so much harder
• 37:19
  with this. Oh my God, so hard.
• 37:21
  Last one in. We talk about first one in.
• 37:26
  All. Right.
• 37:28
  So here's what we got and we love to see you all in the
• 37:30
  comments with your with your thoughts.
• 37:32
  So what we're going to do, we've got defensive in pick four.
• 37:37
  Yeah, we know it's a lot more 4 offensive tackle pick 3,
• 37:44
  linebacker 4, safety 4 and cornerback 5.
• 37:47
  So that's what we did. Curtis, go to hell.
• 37:51
  I wanted to do 3. Coach Robbie's like hell no.
• 37:55
  I got to have 4. Robbie sent in four and then
• 37:58
  Shelton sent in four and we're like all right, fuck it.
• 38:00
  Alex sent in four and then it was just like, OK, everybody
• 38:02
  just do 4. I'll follow us all later.
• 38:05
  We all know that Virginia Tech up until this point has
• 38:09
  traditionally been a four man front.
• 38:11
  You ain't going to go out there with only six guys for a four
• 38:15
  man front. You got to have 7:00, you got to
• 38:17
  have a seven man rotation for A4 front defense, so.
• 38:21
  Robbie won't. I put it in the defensive end
• 38:23
  that's. A That's a good sell, Robbie.
• 38:24
  That's a good sell. If you look real closely at my
• 38:27
  defensive tackle list, you will be surprised, That's all.
• 38:30
  All right, well, let's let's kick it off.
• 38:34
  Get that, get that, get it up. Robbie, give us your 4 defensive
• 38:39
  ends that will be terrorizing quarterbacks.
• 38:42
  Well, when it come down to it, there's one obvious pick.
• 38:47
  There's Bruce Smith. It's it's one that, you know,
• 38:51
  you can't not have in there for Virginia Tech.
• 38:55
  He's one of the greatest NFL players of all time.
• 38:58
  He's one of the greatest players in the history of Virginia Tech
• 39:00
  football, college football. You have to have it.
• 39:03
  Yeah. Then after that, I went with
• 39:07
  Cornell Brown and Darrell Tapp, two guys that I really watched
• 39:13
  play a lot when I was growing up and, and really keeping up with
• 39:19
  things. And then I I had to give a
• 39:21
  little love to the most recent one APR.
• 39:25
  We had to get him in there again.
• 39:29
  I could have gone 8-9 easily. I mean, worlds corn, there's so
• 39:38
  many worlds was probably the first one that I left off Corey
• 39:43
  Moore, which I think Moore ended up playing more linebacker later
• 39:51
  as a as a pro player. And there's just so many you can
• 39:55
  throw out there. But I came with these four.
• 39:59
  They're going to, they're going to put some sheer error in, in
• 40:02
  the eyes of a quarterback and of really anybody on that offensive
• 40:06
  side in front of them. So.
• 40:09
  All right. Tally you up next two or your 4
• 40:12
  defensive ends. So for me, it was like Robbie
• 40:17
  said, I mean, it's hard to make this list without putting Bruce
• 40:21
  Smith in there. I mean, he's the guy, right?
• 40:24
  No matter how old or young you are, you know who Bruce Smith
• 40:27
  is, know what he done. Again, like Robbie said, I put
• 40:31
  APR in, I put him in first. Everybody.
• 40:34
  I didn't copy Robbie this time or should APR.
• 40:40
  I don't think people, I do think the Virginia, Virginia Tech fans
• 40:43
  know like what he brought to the team.
• 40:46
  But I think that when you look back over what he done his two
• 40:50
  years in Blacksburg, maybe. But you know, if we still around
• 40:53
  10 years from now and you look back at his stats and look at
• 40:56
  his tape, you'll understand why he's on this list because even
• 41:01
  though we have mediocre seasons like it.
• 41:03
  Won't cause of him. To put up the numbers that he
• 41:05
  put up was kind of ungodly. Corey Moore, Everybody knows
• 41:10
  what Corey Moore done. Welcome to the Terrordome.
• 41:14
  That's how I say. And Cornell Brown, Cornell Brown
• 41:18
  is I put him on just because like he was one of those guys
• 41:22
  that I feel like pride has to get somebody like him.
• 41:26
  You know, all world recruit that just changes the program.
• 41:33
  Those guys, if you got them on your dream team, you got a
• 41:38
  chance to go up against anybody and kind of what I when we
• 41:42
  talked about what do you put on a dream team and what do you
• 41:45
  look for on a dream team? I kind of look at it like if you
• 41:51
  remove this person from this history, if you remove this
• 41:54
  person from Virginia Tech history, does it change it?
• 41:58
  What changes all of these players?
• 42:00
  I feel like if you're moving from Virginia Tech history, it
• 42:02
  definitely changes that school. So that's why they're on my
• 42:06
  list. All right, Brian.
• 42:13
  You know what? It's not a not a ton different
• 42:15
  here. Me and Tally are are right in
• 42:19
  the same ballpark here. And and you said it with Bruce
• 42:21
  Smith, you can't. This list starts and ends with
• 42:24
  Bruce Smith. Like, if you don't have Bruce
• 42:26
  Smith on this list, what the hell are you doing?
• 42:29
  Bruce Smith didn't know all five of these lists I'm walking out
• 42:34
  of here. So I mean, that's where it
• 42:37
  starts. APR is yeah, when we look at I
• 42:44
  think defense right now, probably it it up there in the
• 42:48
  conversation for the best transfer defensive player in
• 42:53
  Virginia Tech history, certainly in that conversation.
• 42:56
  And when we look at defensive end, just his skill set and what
• 43:00
  he was able to bring to the table from shifting what the
• 43:04
  offensive line had to do when we lined up on defense.
• 43:10
  And then we got, you know, Corey Moore, absolute stud on the
• 43:18
  arguably the best team in Virginia Tech history.
• 43:20
  And, you know, between the, you know, national championship
• 43:26
  media days. And.
• 43:29
  Welcome to the Terra Dome baby. Like sound bites for days.
• 43:35
  It's it's a, it's a insane combination of you, you put that
• 43:39
  in there and you put what, what, what his output was on the
• 43:41
  field. And like Sally said, Cornell
• 43:43
  Brown, just a program changing recruit and player.
• 43:49
  So that that, I mean, that's huge for me.
• 43:51
  And I know Tally talked about what he sees the dream team.
• 43:54
  What I see in a dream team is that, you know, we got to take
• 43:56
  this team. We got to line it up against the
• 43:58
  Alabama's, the Penn State's. We got to we got to give our
• 44:01
  best line up, our best rotation. I feel like these are guys are
• 44:05
  balanced enough at the position where they kind of do do things
• 44:08
  a little bit differently. There's enough to to give
• 44:11
  defensive defenses fits, offenses fits with with the way
• 44:16
  they would attack use as well. So that's where I that's where I
• 44:20
  am. Curtis, what you got?
• 44:22
  Well like y'all already said, Bruce Smith was the first name
• 44:27
  that I wrote down because again, you cannot.
• 44:31
  You got one wrong there buddy. Just so you know, I do.
• 44:36
  Yep, you got one wrong for me. Sorry, which one's wrong?
• 44:40
  I'll tell you in a second, but let me go to Bruce.
• 44:42
  OK. All right.
• 44:43
  You cannot tell the history of Virginia Tech, you cannot tell
• 44:46
  the history of college football for what he did in my 8485.
• 44:49
  Like I think somebody's went back and it's like 18 or 19 1/2
• 44:53
  sacks. It wasn't a stat at that point
• 44:55
  in time. You won the Allen, you won
• 44:57
  basically every major defensive trophy you can think of.
• 45:00
  He was the 11. And then he goes and does what
• 45:03
  he does for 20 plus years in the NFL.
• 45:06
  My next guy actually, you got 2 wrong for me man.
• 45:10
  Damn. Damn.
• 45:12
  Brian, you know what? Damn, Brian, what do you do?
• 45:15
  I pull my list up here. Corey Moore is second because
• 45:19
  what he did in both 98 and 99 was unbelievable.
• 45:24
  And also for defensive line group.
• 45:28
  Bruce. Bruce is that leader, right?
• 45:30
  Bruce is the leader. Good guy, good speaker.
• 45:33
  Don't keep everybody in line. Corey's the dog.
• 45:37
  Corey, go RIP somebody's head off, right?
• 45:41
  The next one I got who's not on here is John Engelberger.
• 45:47
  The pitfalls part of that 99 team, he was on the other side.
• 45:50
  Why was that damn defensive line so fucking good that year?
• 45:53
  Because you had two legitimate edge rushers, Engelberger, you
• 45:57
  could play inside as well and he would eat.
• 46:00
  He would eat. But he's your quiet guy.
• 46:03
  You don't hear a lot from John Engelberger.
• 46:05
  He's the quiet, the silent, deadly one.
• 46:07
  And then it's Cornell Brown. Cornell Brown, two time all
• 46:11
  American consensus in 96. He literally was considered the
• 46:16
  best, one of the best defensive ends in the country that year,
• 46:19
  first team all American, and he changed the trajectory and it
• 46:24
  was between him and Darryl Tap and it ripped me.
• 46:27
  I've interviewed Darryl Tap. I love Darryl Tap as a player.
• 46:31
  But even though he's had a rival high school, Cornell Brown is a
• 46:35
  Southside boy from Lynchburg that's close that might not to
• 46:40
  brethren here. Above and below me played
• 46:42
  against EC Glass every year. He came from EC Glass and what
• 46:45
  he did. Saint John, he was off from EC
• 46:48
  Glass before I got there. But that's not 4.
• 46:52
  So Bruce Smith, Cornell Brown, Corey Moore, John Engelberger,
• 47:02
  Right? I hope you got the rest of mine
• 47:03
  right. My bad, my bad.
• 47:06
  So I think I know what I did, but that's all right.
• 47:08
  Once again, it doesn't matter any of these.
• 47:14
  Let's think I know what I'd be able to get.
• 47:15
  We're good. Chris Lester with us tonight.
• 47:19
  What's going on, Chris again? Christopher Lester in the House.
• 47:25
  Chris Lester in the house, So Sheldon with Bruce, Corey APR
• 47:29
  and Daryl Tapp again. I I think this room there are
• 47:33
  people like y'all said Jason Wells, Remember Nico's Brown, I
• 47:39
  mean Kenneth Keenum had like 10 1/2 sacks one year.
• 47:41
  There were so many people. That was my next question.
• 47:45
  Yeah, that was my next question I was going to ask you.
• 47:47
  What's that? If you had to pick just one
• 47:51
  player not on this list, they don't have to be a all world
• 47:55
  person, just somebody that you enjoyed watching it play.
• 47:58
  Defensive end. That's not anywhere on this
• 48:01
  list. What name would you pick?
• 48:03
  Not anywhere on this list. Yeah.
• 48:05
  So nobody, nobody's got them on any of their list.
• 48:08
  Like I said, just a defensive end from Virginia Tech that you
• 48:11
  enjoy watching play. World.
• 48:16
  Not Chris Ellis. Chris Ellis.
• 48:18
  We didn't mention Chris Ellis. Chris Ellis.
• 48:21
  You said mine. I was going to say Kenny Cannon.
• 48:23
  Kenny and Cannon. Yeah.
• 48:25
  Robbie, you said worlds, Brian. I'm gonna go worlds.
• 48:31
  Yeah, I'm gonna go worlds. Worlds.
• 48:33
  I just, I remember the Kenny Cannon story of him, you know,
• 48:37
  going to gonna go to Notre Dame and whatever happens, he tears
• 48:41
  his ACL. They don't recruit him.
• 48:42
  Then he goes and plays them and you could tell he wanted to beat
• 48:46
  them. That's all I'll say.
• 48:47
  So just stories like that, it's things that make you love
• 48:52
  college football. Again, this is this is one of
• 48:55
  those things where I we could I could have made 10 Yeah,
• 48:59
  absolutely fine with but. We, we got to do 4 all right?
• 49:06
  Oh, oh, yeah. I mean, he might have caused
• 49:09
  absolute chaos in 2018, but he'll.
• 49:12
  He was a fucking. Dog man, Yeah, God, he was a dog
• 49:15
  all. Right.
• 49:17
  Let's flip it. I'm going to leave the next and
• 49:19
  we're going to go to defensive tackle.
• 49:21
  Ron, I hope you got this one right for me.
• 49:25
  And so defensive tackle, it starts with Tim.
• 49:28
  Settle that. Yep, you got it wrong for me.
• 49:32
  You got mine all fucked up man. Hope you got tallies right you.
• 49:41
  Go ahead, you go ahead and read. I'm going to fix it.
• 49:43
  I think what you did is you looked at Robbie's list and I
• 49:46
  think you copied to mine because mine was first.
• 49:49
  But Tim, settle big Timmy. I mean, what 64325 strong could
• 49:57
  could could clog the middle, but Lord have mercy.
• 49:59
  That first step for a 320 LB man is still sick.
• 50:02
  He's still in the league because of it, right next I got mine is
• 50:06
  amnesias peoples. I love the way he played last
• 50:09
  year. Absolutely love the way he
• 50:11
  played a lot of dog, a lot of fight and, and, and as much as
• 50:17
  we like him for his pass rushing technique, he was actually a
• 50:21
  really good run stopping guy the way he shot the gaps and
• 50:24
  basically made running backs move.
• 50:27
  Now my third one is the man who taught people's original member
• 50:32
  of the death row crew back in 95, JC Price.
• 50:37
  Man, we've had a chance to interview and I mean, he was
• 50:43
  that stalwart on that line. People ask why is our defense
• 50:47
  line playing so good? Why they mean, why they play
• 50:49
  hard, why they play like dogs him.
• 50:52
  And if you tell me he gets to lead people's, we already saw
• 50:56
  what he took. He took people's game to the
• 50:57
  next level. Got that kid drafted by the
• 50:59
  Ravens, which means he's going to be good for like a decade
• 51:02
  because that's what they do with defensive lineman.
• 51:04
  And if you tell me, I can get JC Price, no disrespect, Charlie
• 51:08
  Wilde, Charlie Wilde's good coach.
• 51:10
  If you let me get the mentality of JC Price and Tim settle it,
• 51:15
  it all sorts of bad shit's going to happen in the backfield.
• 51:18
  That's mine, Ron, who you got? Who do I got?
• 51:25
  I've got the exact same thing you got at least on this this
• 51:29
  page. I've got Tim Settle.
• 51:32
  Tim Settle was a guy that came in highly, highly touted recruit
• 51:38
  and came to work every day and did everything that you asked to
• 51:41
  do and then did a little bit more.
• 51:44
  And I think he he even in some ways overachieved his his
• 51:49
  recruit ranking in his time in Blacksburg tone setter on one of
• 51:55
  the best defenses we've seen. Definitely the best defense in
• 52:00
  the the the post Beamer era and that that's about all you can
• 52:07
  say, man. And Engelberger, absolute dog.
• 52:12
  Curtis, you already talked about a defensive end could play
• 52:14
  defensive, defensive end could play D tackle.
• 52:17
  I've got him in here at D tackle.
• 52:19
  I always hear first name that comes up when when Dwight's on
• 52:24
  here with us about who he hated to go against in practice.
• 52:29
  John Engelberger right there, man.
• 52:32
  And JC Price. I mean, I don't think there's a
• 52:34
  whole lot else that could be said about him.
• 52:36
  Absolute dog, absolute tone setter and for what he's done,
• 52:41
  what he did at Virginia Tech, what he what he did after you
• 52:44
  left Virginia Tech and what he's what he's done since he's came
• 52:46
  back to Virginia Tech, you got to put him on this list all.
• 52:50
  Right, Robbie? You ain't going to see nothing
• 52:54
  different right here in my list. It's the same 3 settle.
• 53:02
  I mean, it says it for himself, man.
• 53:04
  I mean he, he was dominant inside the whole time he was
• 53:07
  there. He just had, I mean, he, he, he
• 53:12
  set a tone inside you. You just decided right from the
• 53:17
  beginning when you looked out there and it's all settled, like
• 53:20
  we're not going to run right there for a while.
• 53:23
  And then you, you slide, you slide Engelberger in and you
• 53:27
  Aaron with JC Price. You can put anybody out there at
• 53:31
  the edge. Those four are going to dominate
• 53:34
  up front and to be able to rotate three guys like that and
• 53:39
  then you can do other things and you can play two of them and
• 53:42
  slide Engelberger out if you need to.
• 53:45
  And it's just a, it's a nasty rotation with A7 man rotation up
• 53:50
  front with those 4 defensive ends and these three tackles.
• 53:53
  And that's just yeah, that's my whole thought.
• 53:57
  Much more of a coaching process in my mind.
• 54:00
  I was like with these three and and the defensive ends, I can
• 54:04
  play all day because I can move some guys in, move some guys out
• 54:08
  and do anything I need to do. Jonathan Keller.
• 54:15
  So yeah, my list is Tim Settle, Aneas people's, JC Price mainly
• 54:22
  for what everybody said. Again, I go to talk about like
• 54:27
  Aneas people's because of the season, some people may not
• 54:31
  respect what he done. You know, this year, I think
• 54:36
  most people know he did a good job and he's going to the
• 54:39
  league. But when you go back and you
• 54:41
  look at some of the things he was able to do on this defense
• 54:45
  five years from now, you're going to be like, man, we really
• 54:48
  missed that guy. You know what I'm saying?
• 54:50
  So loved watching him play. Tim Settle is just like you said
• 54:55
  a mountain of a man and clogging up the middle of DNJC with his
• 55:00
  demeanor and his his his motor always was fun to watch.
• 55:06
  All right, and let's take a look at Shelton's real quick.
• 55:12
  Right there with you and. He's right there with us.
• 55:15
  So absolutely. So again, not much to be said.
• 55:19
  There were still other defensive tackles and I mean, I love
• 55:23
  Levar, the Lewis brothers, early 2000s Jonathan and Kevin with
• 55:29
  Mr. Hopkins brothers, especially Derek Derek 511 three O 5.
• 55:34
  You kind of wonder how people moved him that low center of
• 55:37
  gravity and. You know, name that's there that
• 55:41
  I love to watch play what what year it was.
• 55:45
  I can't even remember what year that Woody Baird.
• 55:48
  I love watching Woody Baird. Yeah.
• 55:51
  Aired up at defensive tackle, kind of undersized, you know,
• 55:56
  had that what they call quick twitch could just get into
• 56:00
  spaces and create chaos. So not quite on my dream team,
• 56:05
  but definitely a player that I loved watching.
• 56:07
  Woody Barry. Another one from the early
• 56:11
  2000s, David Pugh. We all remember Jim Davis.
• 56:14
  I remember Jim Davis. Defensive tackle, kind of a
• 56:18
  tweener. Played both that and played the
• 56:20
  Fortec again. We're still missing people.
• 56:24
  I know. Oh yeah, it's the crazy.
• 56:26
  Part Who was the guy I was going to throw out there?
• 56:28
  So I'm glad somebody else threw him out there.
• 56:31
  But I've seen several people in the chat talk about Maddie.
• 56:34
  I'm going to say Andre, said Maddie Luther.
• 56:37
  That's another. That's another great choice.
• 56:40
  Yeah. Unbelievable.
• 56:42
  All right, we could be here all night.
• 56:43
  All right, let's go next linebacker room.
• 56:47
  Jonathan Talik on. Lead us off with the
• 56:49
  linebackers. This was probably the hardest 1
• 56:53
  for me just because it was so many names that popped up.
• 56:58
  But the names that I went with was ex Xavier DB, Vince Hall,
• 57:04
  Bruce Taylor and I did go back and switch it.
• 57:07
  Brian didn't switch it but that's OK.
• 57:09
  I said James Anderson, but I took James Anderson off and had
• 57:14
  to put Maine Edmonds on there just because I, I, I know Carrie
• 57:22
  Anne Johnson a little bit. I sold him, him and his family
• 57:24
  cars running back from Auburn that went in the draft with,
• 57:29
  with the same year that the Edmonds brothers went.
• 57:32
  And he came back to buy a car after he had went to like his
• 57:36
  combine and pre draft workouts and stuff like that.
• 57:39
  And he was like, man, it's two brothers that go to Virginia
• 57:42
  Tech and the younger brother is a freak.
• 57:45
  Like, he is the biggest person and the fastest person I've ever
• 57:49
  seen. This is coming from an SEC
• 57:52
  running back, Jermaine. And he showed me some pictures
• 57:56
  of him. And Jermaine Edmonds is just a
• 57:59
  monster of a man, like 65, almost 66, you know, 250 can
• 58:07
  move the way that he moves, can run the way that he runs.
• 58:10
  Like, why can't we get no linebackers like that?
• 58:13
  What linebackers there? Send them to Virginia Tech.
• 58:16
  That's what we need. All three of those brothers
• 58:20
  were, were big, yeah, but they they were, you know, I coaching
• 58:26
  in Virginia at our old high school, you know, we, we had
• 58:30
  some run insurance at Old Damn River, some scrimmages and some
• 58:33
  things like that. All three of them brothers were
• 58:36
  were something to behold in high school.
• 58:38
  Now I'm going to tell you what. Yeah, seeing, seeing Tremaine in
• 58:43
  person and then watching dude move like that.
• 58:46
  Oh my. God.
• 58:47
  In the game is crazy. I mean, similar similar to what
• 58:51
  you you know, what you experience when you see Cam
• 58:53
  chancellor in person and then and then watch it on the field.
• 58:57
  I mean, it's it's it's different.
• 58:58
  It's a it's a different type of speed seeing someone that size
• 59:02
  moving that fast. But yeah, who?
• 59:07
  Who's next, Curtis? I'm next.
• 59:10
  Let's see if you got this one right.
• 59:12
  So he don't all man tally giving you shit man no fan.
• 59:19
  So mine starts out with Ben Taylor.
• 59:23
  He was on the Mount Rushmore for me years ago.
• 59:25
  Ben Taylor, the perfect middle linebacker for what we ran, the
• 59:31
  perfect middle linebacker, the perfect outside weak side
• 59:35
  linebacker, whatever you want to call him, Xavier DB.
• 59:40
  I was at that stadium, the Georgia Tech game.
• 59:44
  He picked that ball off and went elsewhere.
• 59:47
  I was hammered, but I remember it happening because it went
• 59:49
  right by me on the sideline. The athleticism he brought in
• 59:56
  his size. You tell me right now we could
• 1:00:01
  find another Xavier DB and put on the field.
• 1:00:03
  He would be dominant today as he was back then.
• 1:00:07
  My 2:00 at the bottom are a little bit of throwbacks first
• 1:00:09
  of all. Can't remember the exact how it
• 1:00:12
  went, but that Del Rico story from Dwight Victoria couple
• 1:00:16
  years ago that has stuck with me.
• 1:00:18
  I want somebody that crazy, that doggish on the field at some
• 1:00:24
  point in time. But when he tells the story
• 1:00:26
  about Del Rico, let's talk about the UVA game in 95.
• 1:00:29
  Y'all go find the episode. I mean it made me laugh.
• 1:00:32
  It's like and and he had 130 and 120 tackles the years he started
• 1:00:37
  at Michael linebacker. Last one is a name you don't
• 1:00:40
  hear a lot of, but this is a guy let the team in tackles in 98
• 1:00:43
  and 99. And Jameel Smith was effectively
• 1:00:48
  the first prototypical backer. He was effectively the guy that
• 1:00:54
  we were looking for and he beset X, you know, about six years
• 1:00:58
  later. So it's a name some people
• 1:01:01
  forget to mention, but do not forget Jameel Smith, currently
• 1:01:05
  coaching down at Coastal Carolina.
• 1:01:07
  So that is my four and I put them on the field against
• 1:01:13
  anybody, Robbie. Well, then we we definitely got
• 1:01:22
  a lot of different names in this crowd, but linebacker I went
• 1:01:28
  with of course, Xavier DB, Vince Hall, the two guys I watched a
• 1:01:33
  lot as a coach when I first started out coaching, teaching
• 1:01:39
  linebackers, watching those two guys on the field together, I
• 1:01:44
  put Andrew Matua Puaca may not be a name that a lot of people
• 1:01:50
  recognize a lot of times, but he was a tackling machine and Bud
• 1:01:56
  Foster absolutely loved him. He, he had a, he's got a little
• 1:02:02
  bit more of a special place with me.
• 1:02:04
  My wife, as some of these guys know, as an athletic trainer,
• 1:02:08
  she used to work for Salem High School in Virginia Beach and he
• 1:02:12
  was a linebacker there. So as a, as a younger coach, I
• 1:02:16
  got to watch him play in high school all the way into college.
• 1:02:20
  And I love the way he played the game.
• 1:02:22
  I love the way he went after things.
• 1:02:24
  So I had put him in my team right there.
• 1:02:27
  And the last one is Rick Rosano. Has anybody ever looked at
• 1:02:34
  linebacker stats from Virginia Tech?
• 1:02:40
  Not officially. Not really I.
• 1:02:41
  Tackle Sax, what we talking? About I have I have one right
• 1:02:45
  here. There are two different times in
• 1:02:47
  the record books of Virginia Tech in 1970, 1977, he had 30
• 1:03:00
  tackles in the game. He recorded 177 tackles in a
• 1:03:05
  season. He put up those ODU linebacker
• 1:03:09
  numbers. Yeah, he had 634 career tackles
• 1:03:15
  from 74 to 77. I could.
• 1:03:19
  You could put his picture in a lineup.
• 1:03:21
  I couldn't tell you who he was, but if I'm finding stats like
• 1:03:25
  that, I'm putting that man on my list that is a tackle machine.
• 1:03:28
  He probably need to be on the 30 tackles in one game. 30 tackles
• 1:03:32
  in one game. Oh, in a game in 1975 against
• 1:03:37
  the Richmond Spiders, he had 21 unassisted tackles.
• 1:03:41
  Jesus. Christ.
• 1:03:42
  Yeah, put him on. Put him on the field for me.
• 1:03:45
  I don't know who he is. Put him on the field for me
• 1:03:48
  because I wasn't alive in 1974. I'm going to take that every
• 1:03:53
  time. 21. I know that man can't.
• 1:03:57
  Walk his His son backed up Mike Alstott in in Tampa bank.
• 1:04:02
  If he if he had 30 tackles in one game and 21 in another one.
• 1:04:06
  I know that man can't walk or talk right now.
• 1:04:09
  I know he got a Parkinson's disease and his his knees is
• 1:04:12
  hurting. God bless him if he if he alive
• 1:04:15
  or dead, I don't know, but I'm just saying it.
• 1:04:17
  He probably pretty well if you tackle it like that.
• 1:04:20
  In 77 they had leather helmets. Yeah, well, I don't know if they
• 1:04:26
  had leather helmets in 77, but. That seemed like a long time
• 1:04:29
  ago. I was born in 85 so that was
• 1:04:31
  good before my time. They they didn't wear face masks
• 1:04:34
  back then in 70. 730 tackles again.
• 1:04:36
  Yeah, they did shut up dally, they're saying.
• 1:04:42
  Oh, man, yeah, he's still living.
• 1:04:44
  He's still living out there. We're here.
• 1:04:46
  We need to get him on coaching staff.
• 1:04:47
  Yeah, no. Kidding.
• 1:04:51
  We played in the 70s, he probably like 70 now.
• 1:04:55
  Good math I think 7769. Sorry, 69. 69.
• 1:05:02
  Yeah, that, that's where I went with it there.
• 1:05:04
  There's plenty other linebackers that could have put in there.
• 1:05:09
  You know, I, I, yeah, Nice. So many more.
• 1:05:19
  What you got? Shout out.
• 1:05:21
  I love it. I'm glad Andrey's in the chat
• 1:05:23
  tonight. You know what I'm I'm, I'm going
• 1:05:25
  to keep it simple here. I got ADB.
• 1:05:29
  Obvious reasons made made 11 the best looking number in Virginia
• 1:05:34
  Tech history. Arguably Vince Hall, the running
• 1:05:40
  mate with the DB. You can't really talk about 1
• 1:05:43
  without the other. And definitely the most
• 1:05:44
  dominating combination of linebackers in Virginia Tech
• 1:05:48
  history. Ben Taylor, much like Curtis
• 1:05:52
  said, like the prototypical Mike linebacker, the guy you want in
• 1:05:57
  the middle, the guy you want calling everything out, the guy
• 1:05:59
  you want making the tackle. And then just Tremaine Evans.
• 1:06:03
  The the combination of athleticism and production is
• 1:06:09
  you can't overlook it. And he was arguably the best
• 1:06:13
  player on, like I said, the best defense we've had in the last,
• 1:06:16
  you know, almost 20 years, so. Yeah, Did we have did we get the
• 1:06:21
  picture with him? Yeah, we we got to let me try to
• 1:06:25
  find that and see if we can put it in a chat because we are
• 1:06:28
  being very serious. Like people like, oh, he's like
• 1:06:31
  6/4. No, when you stand next to him,
• 1:06:34
  holy shit, Do you feel small? That's what I can find it.
• 1:06:38
  Brian. I Who's Shelton got?
• 1:06:42
  Sheldon's riding with Vince Hall, DB Bruce Taylor and he
• 1:06:45
  peacely Cornell Brown, and it's the linebacker.
• 1:06:48
  Sneaky, sneaky because Cornell played outside linebacker, but
• 1:06:51
  the Ravens look at him being sneaky, getting his getting his
• 1:06:54
  extra defensive in there a. Little funny story for you with
• 1:06:57
  the, with the Xavier DB and Vince Hall.
• 1:07:01
  I ain't going, I ain't going to throw my man under the bus or
• 1:07:03
  anything. But I, I know a, a wide receiver
• 1:07:07
  that played at Virginia Tech and he went out in his very first
• 1:07:12
  spring game and they had him run a, a drag route or, or a right
• 1:07:20
  into the linebackers in the spring game.
• 1:07:23
  And Vince Hall and Xavier DB played, played pinball with his
• 1:07:29
  rear end in in the middle there. And they helped him up, told him
• 1:07:33
  to say, hey, don't come back in the middle again.
• 1:07:37
  Playing later. He he they called the same play.
• 1:07:40
  He run back across the middle again and they smacked him
• 1:07:43
  around a little bit later in the game when they called that that
• 1:07:47
  dig across the middle of the third time he got benched
• 1:07:50
  because he ran the other route. He said, I won't go on back in
• 1:07:52
  there again. They just told me twice enough
• 1:07:54
  to come in there. I won't go on back.
• 1:07:57
  Well, keep doing this to me. Yeah, he did.
• 1:08:00
  He he pissed some coach off at practice.
• 1:08:02
  He. Called another play.
• 1:08:05
  Yeah, you can call what you want to.
• 1:08:06
  You won't be going in there. You're going to have to look for
• 1:08:09
  me to go somewhere else because I ain't going back in there
• 1:08:11
  again. And it told me twice I ain't
• 1:08:13
  doing this the third time. Right.
• 1:08:18
  All righty, we got a couple more rooms to go here.
• 1:08:22
  Brian, you are leading off the safety room.
• 1:08:25
  Not the hardest shit want to do. This was hard this to, to me,
• 1:08:32
  this was the easiest one and the hardest one.
• 1:08:35
  I, I feel like the, the, the first one, Willie Pyle is the
• 1:08:39
  easy one. I, I feel like that's the going
• 1:08:42
  to be the most consensus thing you're going to see on this
• 1:08:45
  list. You might throw Torian in there
• 1:08:46
  as well. Who's my #2?
• 1:08:47
  But Willie Pyle is the safety of Virginia Tech defense Tori and
• 1:08:56
  Gray. I mean, you look, you look at
• 1:08:57
  what he was able to do not only from a production standpoint,
• 1:09:01
  versatile, but also, you know, what he was able to do, You
• 1:09:05
  know, later coming back coaching here, obviously still doing his
• 1:09:08
  thing. We won't say where he's doing
• 1:09:12
  his thing because we don't talk about that team that that whole
• 1:09:14
  lot right now. But and, and here's where it got
• 1:09:19
  difficult because I was, I was a lot of different directions you
• 1:09:22
  could go after that. And I went with a little bit of
• 1:09:27
  new blood with Chuck Clark and a little bit of old blood with
• 1:09:31
  Frank, Frank Lauria. So that's that's where I'm at.
• 1:09:37
  You know, I feel like if if you had to really put a line about
• 1:09:41
  there, and that's kind of what I'm trying to do.
• 1:09:43
  I get a little bit of a lot of different things with with
• 1:09:45
  these, with this grouping at the safety position.
• 1:09:47
  All right, you got to meet you guys here.
• 1:09:52
  Well, I got a couple of agrees with you, couple a little bit
• 1:09:55
  different. I absolutely agree.
• 1:10:00
  Willie Powell is probably going to be on this list for everybody
• 1:10:05
  hands down. Willie as good, as many good
• 1:10:09
  safeties as we had. It was like 3 years of
• 1:10:13
  consistent play, the last two all American.
• 1:10:16
  Willie was that good. Now, the one at the top there, I
• 1:10:20
  got sneaky because everybody's going to probably come in a
• 1:10:23
  thing and say, well, Cody technically played whip
• 1:10:27
  linebacker. Whip linebacker was a damn
• 1:10:29
  strong safety just playing close to the line.
• 1:10:31
  It was the first hybrid position probably known to college
• 1:10:34
  football. Cody Grimm was a safety in all
• 1:10:38
  aspects, and he was a damn good safety and he was a damn good
• 1:10:42
  whip linebacker. So I'm going to put him in
• 1:10:43
  safety, give me a little flexibility with the linebacker
• 1:10:46
  room there when I got to go with it.
• 1:10:48
  And then Pearson was one of those original DBU guys back in
• 1:10:53
  the early 90s and really good player, 14 years in the NFL
• 1:10:59
  coaching now with us. And then Chuck Clark, Chuck
• 1:11:04
  Clark was one of those guys, you know, tally you, you mentioned
• 1:11:06
  earlier, I like watching Chuck Clark play.
• 1:11:09
  He was going to hit you hard. He could do a little bit of
• 1:11:12
  everything you asked him go cover a man.
• 1:11:14
  He could go cover man plays on, go lay a lick on somebody.
• 1:11:18
  So that's mine. Got the Cody Grimm curveball
• 1:11:23
  there. Oh, I'll, I'll look at.
• 1:11:25
  Lavar, look at Lavar look at Lavar.
• 1:11:28
  Get the six corner in there. 6 corner in there putting Jimmy
• 1:11:31
  in. Yeah Jimmy can play safety.
• 1:11:34
  Big big ass some. Yeah, you did play some safety.
• 1:11:37
  He did. All right, listen, I'm I'm going
• 1:11:40
  to go ahead and put Josh's up here for we we move it over to
• 1:11:43
  Tally because this one was close and this one was close to simply
• 1:11:48
  the hit and pit when he knocked the fucking piss out of Tyler
• 1:11:52
  Boyd clean, clean. There you did.
• 1:11:58
  Tally who you who you got up here, big guy.
• 1:12:02
  So on mine, I got, like you said, Willie, you got to have
• 1:12:07
  Willie on. Now, Cody Graham, I think, like
• 1:12:11
  Andretti said, he played good at at Temple 2.
• 1:12:15
  Frank, I think Brian copied me y'all, because I put Frank
• 1:12:19
  first. But I'm just saying also because
• 1:12:23
  if you don't know, if you look at it again, I think he played
• 1:12:26
  in like 66 and 67 All American both years.
• 1:12:30
  But he ended up going to coach at Marshall and he was on the
• 1:12:35
  coaching staff when the when the plane crashed and they lost the
• 1:12:38
  team. So just the story.
• 1:12:40
  He's one of the only players to have his number retired, things
• 1:12:43
  like that. The number 10, I think it is
• 1:12:45
  just for nostalgia reasons, but what he did on the field as well
• 1:12:49
  puts him on this list. But also just being, you know, a
• 1:12:54
  good human and and a great football player.
• 1:12:56
  Then Cam Chancellor, it was a lot of names that I feel like I
• 1:13:00
  could have put on instead of Cam just because of what they
• 1:13:04
  actually did at Virginia Tech. Think we've seen Cam blossom a
• 1:13:08
  little bit more after his time at Virginia Tech, but the
• 1:13:13
  potential was there is how he got on my list here.
• 1:13:16
  Because Cam could just hit, you know?
• 1:13:19
  And I feel like if we put a dream team together and we had
• 1:13:22
  all these other people that's flowing around him and you can
• 1:13:26
  tell him just to go hit like he did with the Seahawks, I don't
• 1:13:31
  think too many people want to come across the middle.
• 1:13:35
  Not at all. Not at all.
• 1:13:38
  Robbie who you got? Well, a lot of same names we've
• 1:13:44
  already seen. Obviously Cam Chancellor I have
• 1:13:48
  in there and I didn't put these in any specific order, just name
• 1:13:52
  them as one as I could. Obviously Willie Powell in my
• 1:13:56
  mind is probably the first guy that comes to my mind as a
• 1:14:01
  safety. After that, to me, it was
• 1:14:04
  Pearson Prelude. I just Remember Remember
• 1:14:07
  watching both of those guys play and how they just kind of took
• 1:14:11
  control and and LED everything. And then Tori and Gray, I
• 1:14:17
  remember him a little more as a coach then as a player, but I
• 1:14:23
  know he was he was a player there.
• 1:14:26
  If all else fails, we at least got 2 coaches that can guide
• 1:14:29
  everybody else in there and keep things going.
• 1:14:33
  I. I felt like that was that was a
• 1:14:37
  good safety room to get going again.
• 1:14:41
  Plenty of names if you could have went back through and move
• 1:14:44
  people in and out and done some great things.
• 1:14:47
  But that that's the route I went with with four guys that I could
• 1:14:53
  definitely count on going down and hitting somebody and and
• 1:14:56
  leading the secondary and helping guide everything we need
• 1:14:59
  to on that field. 100% let's throw Shelton's up there real
• 1:15:04
  quick. Yeah, and I'm going to make a
• 1:15:06
  point as we put Shelton got the little curveball with the with
• 1:15:11
  Terrell Edmonds. Terrell Edmonds very good
• 1:15:14
  safety, So no hate on that, but I'm going to make a point about
• 1:15:19
  tally what you saw about Cam Blossom and once he got to
• 1:15:23
  Seattle, because everybody knows the story, right?
• 1:15:26
  Cam start played four years. He did not red shirt.
• 1:15:31
  He started out as a cornerback. They moved him to Rover in 2007
• 1:15:36
  where he started as a sophomore. First of all, Rover sophomore.
• 1:15:39
  You didn't do that shit. He had 80 tackles that year as a
• 1:15:45
  sophomore. His last two seasons he played
• 1:15:48
  at free safety. He played out of position his
• 1:15:50
  last two years in O8, no nines, free safety.
• 1:15:54
  And so that the truth is that then that's the story to be told
• 1:15:57
  is what if you had a true free safety and he got to play Rover,
• 1:16:01
  play that strong safety like he did in the NFL those last two
• 1:16:04
  years when he got bigger and he got stronger, He wouldn't win in
• 1:16:08
  a sixth round. He would not have went late in
• 1:16:11
  the draft. He would have been like the
• 1:16:13
  first safety off the board. Yeah, and and he was my first
• 1:16:16
  theme out of out of There along with Kashawn Jarrett like that.
• 1:16:19
  Those were the 2 that I was like who you putting in?
• 1:16:22
  Who you putting in? Well, I can't remember the
• 1:16:25
  safety. I can't remember the safety that
• 1:16:26
  was from UUSC, the big safety they had way back when, probably
• 1:16:33
  a couple years. Taylor Mays.
• 1:16:36
  That's him. Taylor Mays.
• 1:16:37
  Taylor. Mays Cam was who people thought
• 1:16:39
  Taylor Mays was, yeah. Exactly that is a great way to
• 1:16:43
  put it there we go great way to put it all right y'all know we
• 1:16:47
  had to save this last the best for last Safety was already a
• 1:16:51
  pain in the ass. Cornerback was jeez.
• 1:16:55
  I mean this is the one I I kid not.
• 1:16:58
  This was like picking children right here.
• 1:17:01
  This was just like who you leaving off because you're going
• 1:17:03
  to leave somebody off you love and tell you to tell us first
• 1:17:07
  who you got because what children are you disappointing?
• 1:17:11
  I want to put all of them on there, but D Hall, Jimmy
• 1:17:15
  Williams, Kyle Fuller, Flowers and Macho Harris, that would be
• 1:17:23
  my 5 that I'm putting on there. Just that.
• 1:17:27
  I mean, all of these guys, any name that you see pop up on
• 1:17:31
  here, it's like it's no story that really has to be told with
• 1:17:36
  it. It's just, you know, that they
• 1:17:38
  belong, own a list, even if it's not your list, they belong to a
• 1:17:43
  list. But out of these people, for me,
• 1:17:46
  it's like, I just remember plays and things.
• 1:17:51
  Kyle Fuller playing against Georgia Tech was always like a
• 1:17:54
  madman. Seemed like every year he played
• 1:17:57
  against Georgia Tech and they moved him around to different
• 1:18:00
  position, he was jumping over the line.
• 1:18:03
  He was, he was just epitomized what Virginia Tech football was,
• 1:18:08
  you know, to me to watch him play, the years that I watched
• 1:18:11
  him play and you know, I know we go have other people coming on
• 1:18:15
  and say some things. I see some people putting in the
• 1:18:17
  chat, but it's so many names. I guess the first name that I
• 1:18:20
  left off that I really wanted all was J Ron Hosley.
• 1:18:24
  Like I used to love to watch him play, but I just didn't have
• 1:18:28
  room to slide it on above anybody that I have.
• 1:18:34
  Couldn't do it. Couldn't do it.
• 1:18:37
  All right, who's up next? Robbie?
• 1:18:38
  Probably going to be in a lot like go ahead.
• 1:18:42
  Yeah, we got a DeAngelo. Hall Next.
• 1:18:45
  It's me. It's me up next.
• 1:18:47
  Oh. You up next.
• 1:18:49
  Oh yeah, yeah, it's Brian. Next, baby.
• 1:18:52
  You good? You good?
• 1:18:54
  Hey, hey, we're good. We're good it.
• 1:18:56
  Ain't going to be a lot different.
• 1:18:58
  I mean mine is not different at all.
• 1:19:01
  I put them in a different order. Right.
• 1:19:08
  So, Curtis, you can back me up on this.
• 1:19:10
  When we, we went to the the tailgate tour.
• 1:19:17
  Yeah. And we talked to Bud Foster.
• 1:19:20
  Yep. And we talked about Boundary
• 1:19:22
  Corner. Who was he talking about?
• 1:19:28
  Be flowers. Jimmy Williams, Baby Jimmy.
• 1:19:30
  Williams, I'll see flowers. You see what's on my G, said.
• 1:19:33
  Jimmy was kind of the the start there and Flowers took it home.
• 1:19:38
  Flowers became the prototype. But I feel like, I feel like
• 1:19:42
  those two, those two guys were the cornerstone of what what
• 1:19:49
  that position became, what cornerback was all about, what
• 1:19:52
  DB was all about. Obviously you had D Hall.
• 1:19:55
  Just a absolute freak of an athlete across the board.
• 1:20:01
  It was really, really impressive to see what he was able to do
• 1:20:05
  with his career as well. I think he really, he got to the
• 1:20:08
  NFL, but short a little bit and became just one hell of a player
• 1:20:12
  over the over the course of his career.
• 1:20:16
  Then we got, I mean, Macho. Macho was my guy, man.
• 1:20:19
  Macho was probably my favorite personal favorite Virginia Tech
• 1:20:23
  cornerback just I mean, played hard nosed, played with a chip
• 1:20:33
  on his shoulder, brought the energy, brought the juice, but
• 1:20:39
  also produced and and was just as versatile, at least in the
• 1:20:44
  same ballpark as D Hall from an athletic standpoint.
• 1:20:48
  And you know, Kyle Fuller, I mean, we talked about looking at
• 1:20:51
  kind of the post great years of Virginia Tech, the post 2010
• 1:20:56
  years of Virginia Tech, Kyle Fuller I think stands out as the
• 1:21:01
  the best cornerback from a full career standpoint to play in
• 1:21:06
  that period. I.
• 1:21:10
  Hear you all right, Robbie? Robbie.
• 1:21:14
  Because you yawn and I'm probably moving faster.
• 1:21:16
  I'm struggling right now again. At that list you got D Angelo
• 1:21:22
  Hall. The I toyed around.
• 1:21:27
  I was, I was messing with Curtis and Brown.
• 1:21:29
  We were talking about this earlier in the week.
• 1:21:31
  This is where I was just going to put where we got Five
• 1:21:34
  Corners. I was just going to put Fuller's
• 1:21:37
  and just leave it at that. We were just going to count all
• 1:21:40
  of them in one. Sometimes you look at them, you
• 1:21:43
  can't hardly tell them apart anyway, especially when they
• 1:21:46
  were playing the game. They played so much the same
• 1:21:49
  way, of course, Brandon Flowers and Jimmy Williams, that shut
• 1:21:55
  down Boundary Corner, you know in your face.
• 1:21:59
  And I got his name on the board for you talent, so you don't
• 1:22:02
  have to worry about it. We went with J Ron Hosley.
• 1:22:05
  There we go. Again, we we cut, we cut some
• 1:22:09
  really good names off of this list with to make it to 5
• 1:22:14
  because I don't think anybody's complete the pass on this crowd.
• 1:22:16
  There's another. The other rock Carmichael God.
• 1:22:22
  All right, I'll, I'll put mine up here.
• 1:22:26
  This was again like this was, you know, the children.
• 1:22:31
  So D Hall again, if you could have just had somebody like
• 1:22:38
  Brandon Flowers or Tyrone Drakeford in that room in 2003,
• 1:22:42
  it ain't nail Ike Charlton. Shit, Lavar, go another one up
• 1:22:45
  on there man. We're with like 15 now, 16.
• 1:22:51
  Yeah, we had like 26. I mean, but D Hall, that's for
• 1:22:57
  you, Josh. D Hall, I got to see him play in
• 1:23:01
  O3 against UCF. It was my first game ever in
• 1:23:04
  Lane Stadium and he played every side of the ball.
• 1:23:07
  That was you. They toyed with him on offense.
• 1:23:10
  He is probably the second most incredible athlete to ever walk
• 1:23:14
  through the doors. Athlete, just athlete straight
• 1:23:17
  up. Kyle Fuller.
• 1:23:19
  Tally out what you love, what you said, you need a nickel
• 1:23:22
  corner, It's Kyle Fuller because that man can cover the inside
• 1:23:26
  slot and you want him to go run support Got a tally 1000%.
• 1:23:29
  What he did to Georgia Tech those years.
• 1:23:31
  He wrecked their shot because normally they it was like, oh,
• 1:23:35
  this cornerback can't tackle now.
• 1:23:37
  He laid fucking people out and I loved it.
• 1:23:40
  Brandon Flowers I mean, Brandon was everything you wanted.
• 1:23:44
  A quarterback he could cover. He picked balls off, but he also
• 1:23:47
  knocked the living piss out of you if you gave him the chance.
• 1:23:50
  Macho again. Macho was that five star kid
• 1:23:55
  down at Highland Springs. It kept that momentum going when
• 1:23:59
  he came in in 2008. It kept the next 3-4 years
• 1:24:03
  going. And Tyrone Drakeford, that's old
• 1:24:08
  school. That's he graduated in 93.
• 1:24:10
  He got drafted by the 49ers in 94.
• 1:24:13
  That was about the time I was coming on as a fan of both so he
• 1:24:17
  stuck with me. He's also I believe second in
• 1:24:21
  picks. He had a 7th pick season.
• 1:24:23
  He had like A5 pick season. A real OG DBU Look him up.
• 1:24:29
  Damn good player, but we are missing so many people here.
• 1:24:33
  I mean so many. Let's see, did Shelton throw
• 1:24:35
  anybody we didn't have? Oh, he went with.
• 1:24:39
  He got Kendall in there. Got the fullers, I told you.
• 1:24:42
  He threw Kendall in that thing. Anybody know that?
• 1:24:46
  If you want to do, if you want to have a good time and cry a
• 1:24:49
  little bit, go pull up Macho Harris on YouTube.
• 1:24:56
  His his highlights. This man had like 15 picks while
• 1:25:01
  he was at Virginia Tech. I think it was a two time all
• 1:25:05
  American and that's like the epitome of what you want in a
• 1:25:11
  defensive back. Every hit it was some talking.
• 1:25:15
  It was some kind of animation. If the ball was in there, he was
• 1:25:20
  going to get it. I think we were playing Clemson
• 1:25:23
  the one time when he hits the kid in the star kid hits the
• 1:25:28
  person that the player in the stomach and lays them out and
• 1:25:31
  just gets up and goes wild. So do yourself a favor, go look
• 1:25:36
  up if you haven't, go look up Macho Harris and his name was
• 1:25:40
  Macho. He was wearing #1 like uniforms.
• 1:25:43
  Look, they were plain, but they were cool.
• 1:25:46
  They had the little incision in the in the bottom little you
• 1:25:50
  just the style to man. Alan Spring.
• 1:25:52
  Baby, can we get back to that? That's all I'm asking.
• 1:25:55
  Pry, I know you're watching. Can you get us back to some of
• 1:26:00
  these mindsets of some of these people that we got on this list?
• 1:26:03
  Anything, you're going to have a full team, but just get us back
• 1:26:07
  to the mindset. How about he just get people we
• 1:26:12
  left off get those type guys on here.
• 1:26:15
  Shit. Oh man, Jim throwing in Ronnell,
• 1:26:20
  Ronnell Whitaker, Oh my God, we could.
• 1:26:23
  And that's the thing about doing this and and and why I wanted to
• 1:26:27
  do it because y'all, we were looking through everything.
• 1:26:30
  You looking through your old rosters, you just going through
• 1:26:32
  your memory banks, you going maybe look at a old game or two.
• 1:26:36
  And and that's what makes it fun.
• 1:26:37
  It it also makes it hurtful when you write names on the list.
• 1:26:40
  It's like you, I love Jimmy Williams all but I love Jimmy
• 1:26:43
  Williams, right? I love.
• 1:26:44
  Jimmy Williams Hey, let's, let's do, let's do a quick, let's do a
• 1:26:48
  quick fun fact here. Who?
• 1:26:49
  Who is the all time leading interceptions?
• 1:26:53
  Oh, I got that one. He ain't on here.
• 1:26:55
  But I got it. He ain't on here.
• 1:26:56
  He ain't on here. Tally who you got.
• 1:26:58
  Who is it? I don't know.
• 1:27:00
  Somebody be here. Robbie don't cheat.
• 1:27:04
  Robbie don't cheat. You cheating.
• 1:27:08
  You cheating. Robbie looking it up.
• 1:27:09
  He looking it up, it's Gene Bunn and.
• 1:27:15
  Who? Exactly.
• 1:27:18
  Gene Bunn, man. Gene Bunn, who played in the, I
• 1:27:22
  believe it was the 70s, his number, it's kind of asinine.
• 1:27:26
  Hold on. Yeah, it's.
• 1:27:28
  Ridiculous tackles in the game? Asinine.
• 1:27:30
  No. Yeah, kind of with what he did.
• 1:27:34
  Hold on. 76 and 5 S 18 total. 18 and three seasons.
• 1:27:44
  Pretty good watch. It wasn't far behind him.
• 1:27:46
  Yeah, 15. All of those guys weren't too
• 1:27:51
  far behind him. Drakeford.
• 1:27:54
  Was up there, wasn't he? Drakeford is 13.
• 1:27:57
  Yeah. The great thing is I think all
• 1:28:00
  five of us could have put five different names and somebody
• 1:28:03
  still would have been left off. Right. 1000% thousand percent
• 1:28:10
  Macho is third Willie Powell. Go back to Willie Powell real
• 1:28:14
  quick. Really.
• 1:28:15
  Powell's a free safety. 14 picks.
• 1:28:19
  Yeah, 14 picks. He howls, too, is a free safety.
• 1:28:25
  I mean. Ball hog baby, that that comedy
• 1:28:28
  chat right there from Josh Young.
• 1:28:31
  Yeah, he was a teammate of the of the 30 tackle a game
• 1:28:36
  linebacker. You could run it or throw it.
• 1:28:41
  If both of them was on the field at the same time, what you're
• 1:28:43
  supposed to do? Yeah.
• 1:28:46
  I'm a punt. I throw another name out y'all
• 1:28:48
  for safety. We lost him a few years ago.
• 1:28:50
  Keon Carpenter. Keon Carpenter been play with
• 1:28:54
  the Bills for so many. Like it's fun to do this.
• 1:28:58
  Well, it's fun. I'm going to tell you what was
• 1:28:59
  really fun about it. It's just going and reading and
• 1:29:02
  looking at the history and thinking about, you know, where
• 1:29:05
  we once were. And I know it's like it ain't
• 1:29:08
  the present. But for these, for us, 4 that
• 1:29:13
  was, that's been our lifetime. Right.
• 1:29:16
  Right, like we got to see this like this wasn't we had a couple
• 1:29:20
  guys on here. Maybe we were little or couple
• 1:29:22
  guys, just you see the lore. But for us like this list right
• 1:29:27
  here, you take out actually take out nobody.
• 1:29:33
  We saw every single one of these guys play just about every game
• 1:29:39
  attack. By the way, I got another one
• 1:29:43
  just popped in my head. Kendall Fuller is running mate
• 1:29:47
  Brandon Face on. Yeah, man, Face, face on had
• 1:29:52
  himself some games. He wasn't quite as consistent
• 1:29:56
  out there, but when he was on he would he would absolutely
• 1:30:00
  dominate. But a lot of good corners, man,
• 1:30:05
  out of good corners when you talk about Virginia Tech
• 1:30:08
  football, for sure. A lot of good ones.
• 1:30:11
  All right, We lost Robbie. I don't know why we lost him,
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  but we lost him. He sleeps.
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  So he probably is man got to be up like 6:00 got to work
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  tomorrow, but this has been a lot of fun.
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  Y'all want to chat tonight? Y'all have been a lot of fun and
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  put yours up, put both dream teams up because like you start
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  going and thinking about it, you're going to leave someone
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  off and you'll be like how'd I leave them off?
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  Well, because we were so good for so long, and that's what we
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  got to got to remember. All right.
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  Anything else breaking? Ron said we get the recruit
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  tomorrow. Ron said we're going to recruit
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  tomorrow. I.
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  Mean Hey, I've seen the Evan tweets, man, it's coming.
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  He's feeling it. He's feeling it coming.
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  I told you, I told the guys earlier, it might have been
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  later last week that that the kid from Mooresville was coming.
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  Yeah. I just had a feeling just by
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  hearing some people talk around here where he was going to head
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  out to. So hopefully it's going to start
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  filling in. I think we're going to, we're
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  going to hit a good run here. I think you know we'll.
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  See. If that's going to be if that's
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  going to put us where we want to be or whether that's something
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  that just kind of gets us kind of back to status quo.
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  But the the the top ten in the state is starting to run out in
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  terms of opportunities. It'd be nice to at least get
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  one, maybe 2 in there. We haven't seen that yet.
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  So that's kind of where I'm looking.
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  If you know, I think we're going to do all right overall, but I'd
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  like to see at least grab two of those top ten before the the
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  thing. There you go.
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  I do like calm you down. Hey, Chris.
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  Chris, we, we got one from Green Run.
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  Can we get another one please? Get there, Chris, Do your thing.
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  All right, with that being said, let's wrap up this episode of
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  So let's we need to bother him. Tell him come on, play a song
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  So check him out if you're down there.
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  Anything else, boys? Oh, Jlo.
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  All right, we appreciate everybody in the chat tonight.
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  We appreciate y'all all listening, however you may
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  listen, and as always, let's go. Hokey.
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  Music.