Latest / The Articulate Fly / S6, Ep 68: East Tennessee Dry Fly Tactics and Streamer Insights with Ellis Ward
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- 0:03Marvin: Hey folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of the Articulate Fly,
- 0:06Marvin: and we're back with another East Tennessee Fishing Report with Ellis Ward.
- 0:10Marvin: How are you doing, Ellis?
- 0:12Ellis: I'm doing well, Mark. How are you?
- 0:14Marvin: As always, just trying to stay out of trouble, and we were talking before we started recording.
- 0:18Marvin: You're in your new place. You're starting to get into your groove.
- 0:21Marvin: Things are looking good.
- 0:23Marvin: You're getting a little bit of rain. It's not super crazy hot,
- 0:26Marvin: but not too bad for mid-June, right?
- 0:30Ellis: No, and we're getting, you know, these storms that are the reason why I tell
- 0:38Ellis: everyone to bring Rain Jacket.
- 0:42Ellis: We just get these splashes that are really feeling developing throughout the afternoon.
- 0:49Ellis: But they tend to happen pretty quick, last about, you know, 15,
- 0:55Ellis: 20, 30 minutes maybe. Maybe in the short, partly cloudy, maybe 10 degrees cooler.
- 1:03Ellis: Make for a nice evening if you're not soaking wet. But we've had one or two
- 1:09Ellis: of those recently, and it's nice.
- 1:15Ellis: The trips last week were just, we're catching fish on dry flies.
- 1:22Ellis: Lives in in a bunch of different ways and you know a a fish eating a dry fly on top is the,
- 1:33Ellis: i think the catch-all for what we're
- 1:37Ellis: doing you're you're seeing them eating so we're not really blind
- 1:40Ellis: casting and just drifting we're stopped we're seeing them eat and and we're
- 1:45Ellis: catching them but the rules in which we approach that process can vary and in
- 1:56Ellis: the the less bloody times,
- 1:59Ellis: uh i don't know just get times when you're really isolating certain areas and a specific type of,
- 2:11Ellis: a specific type of bug, a very, not very, but a pretty specific drift.
- 2:21Ellis: There certainly is,
- 2:24Ellis: Lots of bugs from sizes, you know, 14 to 22.
- 2:32Ellis: And, or both. I mean, they're really, the fish are in there eating.
- 2:37Ellis: And we had a couple days in a row of being able to kind of work with some tree
- 2:49Ellis: toddler and some shade and positioning of the boat.
- 2:52Ellis: To where we're actually we're not just the fish we are seeing that we're actually
- 2:56Ellis: seeing this through the water and and watching it come up and sort of knows the fly and then eat it,
- 3:04Ellis: and it's made for it which is just a whole different you want to talk about
- 3:09Ellis: sight fishing like that's normally if you're casting to i see a trout over there
- 3:15Ellis: that's rising and here's the
- 3:18Ellis: bug i think is going to that trout that's pretty
- 3:21Ellis: classic with tight fishing it's you know
- 3:24Ellis: casting to a specific fish and a lot of these fish aren't even holding current
- 3:27Ellis: they're just they're outside of the scene they're in for slack water and it
- 3:32Ellis: requires a little bit of doing where there's been some some dry fly casting
- 3:36Ellis: and coaching um shout out my boy connor for becoming coming locally and admittedly,
- 3:46Ellis: I'll say, a dry fly convert,
- 3:49Ellis: small mouth, steelhead.
- 3:53Ellis: Not necessarily tiny dry fly, especially a natto, but that changed frequently.
- 3:59Ellis: We had one of these days, and that night is an example.
- 4:06Ellis: Ten minutes between 19-inch brown trouts, one of them on the stringer,
- 4:11Ellis: and actually the portlier of the two on a dry fly a few minutes later.
- 4:17Ellis: So, I mean, you add that as, let's say, our first four to six hours of thipping.
- 4:25Ellis: And, sorry, you add that to what we have in the night, which is,
- 4:35Ellis: which week we're looking at 60 degrees, less 60s.
- 4:39Ellis: And it's just, it's really comfortable to be mousing.
- 4:45Ellis: I mean, I crested a little bit in March, April, but having these 90-degree days.
- 4:53Ellis: It's when you start fishing at two or three with
- 4:57Ellis: with the eye towards you know
- 5:00Ellis: we're going to fish towards the lower light fish the the relutions
- 5:04Ellis: in the afternoons and evenings and then uh
- 5:08Ellis: fish under darkness the feet
- 5:11Ellis: will round three or four p.m especially if there's no clouds that'll
- 5:14Ellis: let you know you you're making the right decision and trips are agreeing so
- 5:22Ellis: getting good fish in the boat on on drive and and it's not just like fishing
- 5:28Ellis: the big ones and doing the technical stuff there's,
- 5:32Ellis: so saying about the the different the different
- 5:35Ellis: types are also you know seeing them eat very aggressively
- 5:38Ellis: and finding pods of really healthy like
- 5:41Ellis: 12 to 14 inch rainbows um and
- 5:45Ellis: it you know it's not
- 5:48Ellis: gonna be every day but um we're in
- 5:51Ellis: that zone right now and that that zone can last uh through during july and then
- 5:59Ellis: you know things things look a little different there's these kind of micro seasons
- 6:03Ellis: within these tailwaters but this is um this is definitely one of my favorites.
- 6:10Marvin: Yeah. Is there anything kind of, uh, with respect to the streamer bite you want to share with folks?
- 6:16Ellis: You know I said for anyone watching any of my YouTube videos that was word for
- 6:25Ellis: sharing YouTube this is going to be familiar same thing with Instagram,
- 6:32Ellis: there I really try to not drink my own Kool-Aid I,
- 6:39Ellis: think that I get towards an 80-20 most of the time um you know getting in the
- 6:46Ellis: right place and and doing the right thing to get food back and um,
- 6:52Ellis: i i i've just gotten some
- 6:56Ellis: feedback from social media which
- 6:59Ellis: is always a this is a dangerous game to play but it's just interesting with
- 7:05Ellis: the i love pine streamers i love fishing them if i can get get away with it
- 7:10Ellis: i love fishing eight inch crafty changers for brown trout clear water,
- 7:18Ellis: um reasonable flows and a big sun not the time i mean you can do it for fun
- 7:25Ellis: or if things are looking really sporty or if things are not looking sporty at
- 7:30Ellis: all but kind of staying within that.
- 7:36Ellis: Maybe down to two and a half. The only reason that I limit on the downside is
- 7:41Ellis: I don't think going smaller makes a big difference.
- 7:46Ellis: And I want to be able to see it. And you want to be able to see it.
- 7:50Ellis: And so that can be done, you know, something visible with a really small profile.
- 7:54Ellis: Profile, you can do that with a
- 7:56Ellis: flashy, you know, a couple extra pieces of flash on a Clasar or a Krelak.
- 8:03Ellis: That's really the low end that I really haven't even been fishing Krelaks that
- 8:09Ellis: much, but you know, the double bugger platform,
- 8:13Ellis: peanut end beef, that type of thing, and the dungeon variants,
- 8:19Ellis: and using Crasher and all that, that and and
- 8:23Ellis: kind of pooping in that if if you're not getting
- 8:25Ellis: feedback on the bigger stuff which i cannot fault
- 8:29Ellis: you for starting there i tend to start there myself and
- 8:32Ellis: i am the start client there as well i'm pretty quick to switch because i value
- 8:38Ellis: people time and money but i do want to see if they're going to smash the sections
- 8:42Ellis: client top that we got we got to check that box first but um Very quick to go
- 8:48Ellis: into the olives and the natural,
- 8:50Ellis: they're slightly sinkier and let's not make them come up towards where the birds are.
- 8:57Ellis: A lot of times, looks like between three and four and we'll say classic trout streamer,
- 9:08Ellis: also trout streamer, streamer in general, baitfish pattern, crawfish pattern.
- 9:15Ellis: But you know if you're out there as much as that can be working like if that's
- 9:19Ellis: working great you can do that and do the same thing and get that same feedback
- 9:23Ellis: all day or if you're finding that that's working after a little while maybe
- 9:28Ellis: go smaller maybe go bigger,
- 9:31Ellis: I would say just continue to test how that is changing and,
- 9:38Ellis: section to section river to river you can see some differences and you,
- 9:44Ellis: Yeah, if you're not getting feedback on the smaller stuff, it can't hurt at all.
- 9:48Ellis: They're fun to tie. They're fun to cast when you do it well.
- 9:52Ellis: It can't hurt at all to fish big stuff for a little bit and see what happens.
- 9:56Marvin: Well, folks, there you go. And, you know, we love questions on the Articulate Fly.
- 10:00Marvin: You can email them to us or DM us on social media, whatever is easiest for you.
- 10:03Marvin: And if we use your question, I will send you some Articulate Fly swag.
- 10:07Marvin: And we're going to do a drawing for some cool stuff from Ellis at the end of
- 10:09Marvin: the season. And Ellis, before I let you go, you want to let folks know where
- 10:13Marvin: they can find you and fish with you.
- 10:15Marvin: I know you've been putting some YouTube content up too, all that kind of good stuff.
- 10:20Ellis: Yeah, you like that little, I don't know what they call that in the biz,
- 10:23Ellis: but work at Ellis Ward Fishing on YouTube.
- 10:28Ellis: And I have a bunch of time videos up there. I should do a better job of promoting
- 10:32Ellis: all the content I have there.
- 10:35Ellis: Instagram is at Ellis Ward Dives. website is at elliswardfly and that's where
- 10:43Ellis: you can contact me book trips, ask questions,
- 10:47Ellis: talk about how excited you are for bufftail coming up,
- 10:52Ellis: text me your questions about which days are the best days for you to be coming
- 10:56Ellis: here and dry fly fishing, streamer fishing and mouthing for multiple days in
- 11:00Ellis: a row my cell phone at 513-543-0019 nine.
- 11:07Marvin: Yeah. And I've got links to your YouTube channel and everything in the show
- 11:10Marvin: notes and folks remember to, you know, if you join our community on Patreon,
- 11:14Marvin: there are a couple options where you get discounts on Ellis's bucktails.
- 11:17Marvin: But another great one is there's one where you have a guide credit every year
- 11:21Marvin: for taking trips with Ellis.
- 11:22Marvin: So great way to support the articulate fly. Great way to support Ellis.
- 11:26Marvin: And, you know, as we start moving deeper into summer, as I always say,
- 11:30Marvin: you owe it to yourself to get out there and catch a few tight lines,
- 11:33Marvin: everybody tight lines, I.
- 11:35Ellis: Appreciate it, Marshall.