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52: The System for Letting Yourself Be Bad at Something Again with Thomas Renner

At some point, many of us quietly stop trying new things.

Not because we don't want to—but because we've gotten so used to being competent that being a beginner feels unbearable.

This week, Julie sits down with longtime friend and leadership coach Thomas Renner to explore why adults avoid situations where they might be awkward, imperfect, or just plain bad—and what we're missing because of it.

From theater camp to parenting to making new friends, this conversation explores why play matters far more than we give it credit for, how perfectionism quietly shrinks our lives, and why confidence…

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