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- 0:05Speaker 1: Rodgers, play action pass, rolling out to his right, looking
- 0:08Speaker 1: for Friermuth, touchdown, Pittsburgh Steelers. Rodgers under center as Warren
- 0:14Speaker 1: is a lone setback, tapping both sides of his helmet. Four, three, Rodgers, quarterback, sneak,
- 0:20Speaker 1: and Rodgers in for the two-point conversion.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Sneaks it in, and we are tied with 142 remaining
- 0:29Speaker 2: in Cleveland.
- 0:30Speaker 3: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
- 0:35Speaker 3: Troop on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 0:38Speaker 3: Audio Network.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Now, I just had to delay a game, right? I
- 0:42Speaker 2: went too soon. Our announcer went and I went. We
- 0:46Speaker 2: both went at the same time.
- 0:47Speaker 4: That's it. Encroachment, take your pick.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Now, I'm off the morning after. Afternoon after. See, I'm
- 0:53Speaker 2: also messing that up. Double B, I was going to
- 0:55Speaker 2: ask you, after that two-point conversion, I did not have
- 0:58Speaker 2: a lot of faith in the Steelers' defense going into
- 1:01Speaker 2: that last drive. I thought they needed that splash play.
- 1:04Speaker 2: If it happens, great. But most likely, there's a good
- 1:07Speaker 2: chance Watson's going to push that offense across midfield and
- 1:10Speaker 2: set up for a game-winning field goal. And I think
- 1:13Speaker 2: McCarthy and his staff thought that, too, because they started
- 1:16Speaker 2: using some timeouts to preserve some time. But they couldn't
- 1:19Speaker 2: do that. There wasn't hardly any time left by the
- 1:21Speaker 2: time Aaron Rodgers got the football back.
- 1:23Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I did have faith at that point.
- 1:26Speaker 5: You know, I thought that Deshaun Watson's hot streak had
- 1:30Speaker 5: It kind of fallen off a little bit in the
- 1:32Speaker 5: second half, but he dialed back into it, and there
- 1:36Speaker 5: was no TJ Watt heroics to be found at that
- 1:41Speaker 5: point and put some stress on the secondary. I'm sure
- 1:45Speaker 5: people will be second-guessing Patrick Graham and his coverage on
- 1:51Speaker 5: that drive, but you're damned if you do, damned if
- 1:55Speaker 5: you don't sometimes because if you play play tight press man,
- 1:59Speaker 5: and someone gets behind the defense and they score a
- 2:02Speaker 5: touchdown rather than set up for a 56-yard field goal,
- 2:05Speaker 5: then everybody's saying, why don't you just keep them in
- 2:07Speaker 5: front of.
- 2:07Speaker 4: You and make them make a long kick?
- 2:09Speaker 5: So that's coaching, but ultimately you're judged at the end
- 2:13Speaker 5: of the day by the wins and the losses, and
- 2:15Speaker 5: that's all that matters.
- 2:16Speaker 4: Bottom line business.
- 2:18Speaker 2: TJ Watt's final stat line last night, four tackles, one sack.
- 2:23Speaker 2: two tackle for losses, two quarterback hits, pass deflection, forced fumble,
- 2:27Speaker 2: fumble recovery. Another strong game by T.J.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Watt.
- 2:30Speaker 2: And what did not show up on that stat sheet? Well,
- 2:32Speaker 2: I guess it kind of did the fumble recovery that
- 2:34Speaker 2: we talked about earlier was some of the other dynamic
- 2:36Speaker 2: plays that he did with reading that option on to
- 2:39Speaker 2: Sean Watson, getting to him. Again, showing the quarterback that
- 2:42Speaker 2: you're taking the bait on the running back, but really
- 2:44Speaker 2: you're not. And that behind the back, almost interception, batting
- 2:48Speaker 2: down the ball type play. I mean, T.J. Watt, For
- 2:50Speaker 2: all intents and purposes, four games into the season, Brian
- 2:54Speaker 2: Bacco is having that type of defensive player of the
- 2:56Speaker 2: year performance through one-fourth of the season.
- 2:59Speaker 5: Yeah, he is, and I think the sacks will continue
- 3:03Speaker 5: to come for TJ. There's been some metrics out there,
- 3:07Speaker 5: some advanced analytics about just how fast his getoff has
- 3:11Speaker 5: been to this point in the season, so he's timing
- 3:13Speaker 5: things up really well, sometimes too well.
- 3:15Speaker 4: I think, did he have another offsides last night, I believe,
- 3:18Speaker 4: on one play?
- 3:18Speaker 2: He did.
- 3:19Speaker 5: But you'll live with that with the best pass rushers
- 3:21Speaker 5: in the league because more often than not, they are
- 3:24Speaker 5: going to get that cadence and that's going to give
- 3:27Speaker 5: them a huge jump on the opposing tackle. I mean,
- 3:30Speaker 5: there was one of those plays, too, where he fights
- 3:33Speaker 5: through a chip and then beats the right tackle one-on-one,
- 3:37Speaker 5: still gets to Deshaun Watson. That's definitely been one of
- 3:41Speaker 5: the most encouraging storylines of the first, not quarter, but Exactly.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Watch that 17th game messes everything up.
- 3:48Speaker 5: Hey, hopefully we won't need that 17th game. Maybe the
- 3:50Speaker 5: AFC North title will be in the bag.
- 3:52Speaker 4: Have it all wrapped up. Number one or two seed will.
- 3:54Speaker 5: Be in the bag and you can just throw Mason
- 3:58Speaker 5: Rudolph out there. So through the first four games, the
- 4:01Speaker 5: resurgence of Watt to me is probably one of the
- 4:05Speaker 5: brightest spots for the 2026 Steelers.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Some team stats last night on Steelers-Browns. First downs, Steelers 24,
- 4:13Speaker 2: Browns 22. Third down conversions, double B. Not great for
- 4:17Speaker 2: the Steelers offense. Four of 13, 30% on third down. Now, defensively,
- 4:22Speaker 2: they held the Browns in check at 40%, four of 10,
- 4:25Speaker 2: but this offense continues to struggle on third down conversions.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Four of 13, again, just over 30%.
- 4:31Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that's probably some of those you know,
- 4:36Speaker 5: throws that Aaron Rogers missed that he mentioned that he
- 4:39Speaker 5: wants back. And, you know, that right back to sort
- 4:42Speaker 5: of where they were those first two weeks of the season,
- 4:44Speaker 5: when even after they beat the Falcons, we were kind
- 4:47Speaker 5: of sitting here lamenting the struggles on, on the possession
- 4:51Speaker 5: downs and certainly against new England that, that did not help,
- 4:55Speaker 5: but they, they got on track against the Bengals and
- 4:58Speaker 5: now it's a three out of the last four or
- 5:01Speaker 5: three out of the first four, I should say of
- 5:03Speaker 5: this season that, They haven't been at their best on
- 5:06Speaker 5: third down. I think another kind of issue last night, Ed,
- 5:10Speaker 5: not really statistical, more anecdotal. The inside linebackers I thought
- 5:15Speaker 5: were good the first few games, but not so much
- 5:17Speaker 5: last night from Patrick Queen and Peyton Wilson, and that
- 5:20Speaker 5: goes back to what we talked about for much of
- 5:22Speaker 5: this offseason. The flashes are there. There's glimpses of greatness,
- 5:26Speaker 5: but the consistency eluded them in 2025, and it's been
- 5:29Speaker 5: eluding them so far to start this year.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Missed tackles and it wasn't just the two of them
- 5:35Speaker 2: no that was well I mean.
- 5:36Speaker 5: If even Cole Holcomb all three levels starting uh inside
- 5:39Speaker 5: linebacker but he was in there on that play that
- 5:42Speaker 5: Julio McLaughlin took to the house and he kind of
- 5:44Speaker 5: fell off of him now that's one where you know
- 5:47Speaker 5: he's not playing a lot defensively so you're you're not
- 5:50Speaker 5: in a groove quite as much right and there's a
- 5:53Speaker 5: little bit of rust component there I would imagine but
- 5:56Speaker 5: I'm sure Cole Holcomb wouldn't take any solace in that
- 5:58Speaker 5: just you're out on the field you need to make
- 6:00Speaker 5: the play.
- 6:00Speaker 2: You have 10 days to clean some things up, and
- 6:03Speaker 2: we'll do our clean it up Wednesday, fix it Wednesday,
- 6:06Speaker 2: whatever that may be next week. We'll have a lot
- 6:08Speaker 2: to fix, but two glaring things to me, Brian. One
- 6:11Speaker 2: is communication again, and they cleaned a lot of the
- 6:14Speaker 2: communication stuff up from the New England game to the
- 6:17Speaker 2: Cincinnati game last week. But it kind of went back.
- 6:20Speaker 2: It felt like the New England game again. The secondary
- 6:23Speaker 2: at times. Now, again, the secondary, they get a bit
- 6:25Speaker 2: of a bye because there was a lot of moving
- 6:27Speaker 2: parts and not just Joey Porter Jr. being gone to Dallas,
- 6:30Speaker 2: but the injury to Jamel Dean. Again, Ray Sean Jenkins
- 6:34Speaker 2: was yanked relatively early, so you had a couple rookies
- 6:37Speaker 2: in that backfield. But the good news is Deshaun Elliott
- 6:40Speaker 2: could potentially be back after this 10-day period is up.
- 6:43Speaker 2: So think about this for a second. We don't know
- 6:44Speaker 2: about Jamel Dean yet, and that injury didn't come back
- 6:47Speaker 2: into the game. but now you have a Santi Samuel jr.
- 6:50Speaker 2: At one corner. Who's played very well for the first
- 6:52Speaker 2: four games. If you have to, you can now move
- 6:55Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey into that corner position. Cause if you get
- 6:57Speaker 2: to Sean Elliott back, he's now next to Brisker as
- 7:00Speaker 2: your two safeties. So all of a sudden the depth
- 7:02Speaker 2: might not be as great. You got some rookies out
- 7:04Speaker 2: there and Everett and spirits Jennings, but now you've got
- 7:07Speaker 2: a pretty good starting four back in that secondary.
- 7:10Speaker 5: I think that's a bit of a leap of faith though,
- 7:12Speaker 5: to project Ramsey to go and write back to playing
- 7:15Speaker 5: outside corner a lot. Um, Yeah, this this staff simply
- 7:19Speaker 5: hasn't planned for that. You know, obviously things went sideways
- 7:24Speaker 5: with with Joey Porter Jr. But I think they were
- 7:27Speaker 5: planning to have him out there this season. So with
- 7:30Speaker 5: but they want Ramsey at the nickel.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:32Speaker 5: I mean, basically on the inside shell of that defense,
- 7:36Speaker 5: whether it's safety or slot corner. I mean, I guess
- 7:39Speaker 5: he could always bump back out there if he needed to.
- 7:41Speaker 5: I just think he's, he helps you more as a tackler,
- 7:44Speaker 5: as a, as a blitzer. Although none of those blitzes
- 7:46Speaker 5: got home last night. That was struggled. That was frustrating. So,
- 7:50Speaker 5: I mean, Elliot, that would be a welcome return. The
- 7:54Speaker 5: mentality that he brings out there. You always want, it
- 7:56Speaker 5: doesn't really help you with your corner depth, but yeah,
- 7:59Speaker 5: you're right. There could be a trickle down to some extent.
- 8:02Speaker 5: And I just think like, you know, Robert Spears Jennings,
- 8:06Speaker 5: nice little cameo last night, but Deshaun Elliott has seen
- 8:09Speaker 5: a lot more ball than the rookie out of Oklahoma has.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
- 8:13Speaker 5: I think that as long as he is good with
- 8:16Speaker 5: that injury that the coaching and training staff and front
- 8:19Speaker 5: office felt like, yeah, maybe he's not quite 100%, so
- 8:22Speaker 5: let's just be safe with him and put him on
- 8:23Speaker 5: IR to start the year. Hopefully that gave him time
- 8:26Speaker 5: to get completely back up to speed, and we will
- 8:29Speaker 5: see the Deshaun Elliott of 2024 and even 2025 on
- 8:31Speaker 5: the games that he did play.
- 8:37Speaker 2: A couple more team stats for you from last night, too.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Total yards, we talked about 372 for the Browns, 361
- 8:44Speaker 2: for the Steelers, so just about even there. Rushing-wise, 112
- 8:47Speaker 2: on the ground for the Browns last night, 92 total
- 8:50Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Penalties, 8 of 50 for the Steelers.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Not bad, but how about Cleveland last night? 14 penalties
- 8:58Speaker 2: for 88 yards. Now, the 88 yards isn't too, too bad,
- 9:00Speaker 2: but 14 flags on the Browns last night. That's not great.
- 9:06Speaker 5: No, I mean, they were highly penalized, so it's, again,
- 9:09Speaker 5: one of those weird things where you basically win the
- 9:12Speaker 5: turnover battle. I don't really count the last-second desperation heave. Also,
- 9:18Speaker 5: I saw some confusion on that play with people discussing
- 9:22Speaker 5: it on social media.
- 9:23Speaker 4: Gee, there's a real shock.
- 9:25Speaker 3: Really?
- 9:25Speaker 2: That happens?
- 9:26Speaker 5: Yeah, that does happen from time to time. The Steelers,
- 9:31Speaker 5: they did not have any timeouts left.
- 9:34Speaker 4: For that play.
- 9:35Speaker 5: So I don't think there was any dumping it down
- 9:38Speaker 5: and try to get into.
- 9:43Speaker 4: Range there.
- 9:44Speaker 5: So, yeah, I mean, I don't think that there was
- 9:47Speaker 5: much that Rogers could do other than take that deep
- 9:50Speaker 5: shot there to Roman Wilson. I mean, you're backed up anyway.
- 9:54Speaker 5: You've got 10 seconds in your, your own 35, I suppose.
- 10:00Speaker 5: you get 15 yards. You could be in Chris Boswell territory,
- 10:05Speaker 5: but that would be a 67 or 68.
- 10:08Speaker 4: Yard field goal.
- 10:09Speaker 2: I mean, that's NFL record cat.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:11Speaker 4: I mean, even in today's NFL, that's kind of right.
- 10:14Speaker 4: That's unreasonable.
- 10:15Speaker 5: So yeah, Yeah, I mean, they did what they could
- 10:20Speaker 5: on that play, and obviously Grant Delpit picked it off
- 10:24Speaker 5: at the 18, and.
- 10:26Speaker 4: That was the end of the night.
- 10:28Speaker 5: But, yeah, I mean, it was a highly penalized game
- 10:31Speaker 5: for the Browns. They turned it over twice, and yet
- 10:34Speaker 5: the Steelers didn't do enough in any phase of the game.
- 10:37Speaker 5: I mean, hey, I hate to say it, Ed, but
- 10:40Speaker 5: that Chris Boswell miss did loom large. I mean, it's
- 10:43Speaker 5: butterfly effect type stuff.
- 10:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:46Speaker 5: So sometimes I don't like doing that because the whole
- 10:49Speaker 5: tone and tenor and strategy of the game is different
- 10:51Speaker 5: if you insert those three points in there. But, yes,
- 10:55Speaker 5: if you just look at it from what was on
- 10:57Speaker 5: the scoreboard at the end of the night, you could
- 10:59Speaker 5: have used those three points.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Coming up next, we're actually going to look at some
- 11:02Speaker 2: Steelers statistics as we try to get through the first
- 11:06Speaker 2: one-fourth of the Steelers schedule, getting Double B's thoughts on
- 11:10Speaker 2: where the Steelers are, where they're heading, what's ahead. We'll
- 11:13Speaker 2: also look at some team statistics. But one last... Team
- 11:16Speaker 2: stat from last night's game in Cleveland is time of possession,
- 11:20Speaker 2: and it was just about even. The Steelers at 31 minutes,
- 11:22Speaker 2: 11 seconds. The Browns, 28 minutes and 49 seconds. But again, look,
- 11:27Speaker 2: we can go over all these team stats. We can
- 11:29Speaker 2: go over individual stats. It was that second quarter that
- 11:33Speaker 2: sunk the black and gold last night. 21 unanswered points
- 11:37Speaker 2: by the Browns. It all started after that Aaron Rodgers interception.
- 11:40Speaker 2: It was tipped at the line of scrimmage, but, well,
- 11:44Speaker 2: Denzel Ward made the play of the game. That's what
- 11:47Speaker 2: switched the momentum back into Cleveland's favor. And the Steelers
- 11:51Speaker 2: waited until the fourth quarter until they jumped back into
- 11:54Speaker 2: this football game before tying it up and giving up
- 11:56Speaker 2: the winning field goal to the Cleveland Browns who get
- 11:59Speaker 2: the 3-1 on the year. And the Steelers at 2-2.
- 12:02Speaker 2: But a lot of football to be played, Brian. And
- 12:04Speaker 2: you get a 10-day mini-buy now to get things right.
- 12:07Speaker 2: And you have the Colts coming into town. They are
- 12:10Speaker 2: next up on the Steelers' schedule in Week 5. That
- 12:12Speaker 2: game will be played on Sunday, October 11th, a week
- 12:15Speaker 2: from this Sunday at 1 o'clock, and you have an
- 12:18Speaker 2: opportunity to get right again on your season. They got
- 12:20Speaker 2: right after the loss in New England. Now they have
- 12:23Speaker 2: to try to get right a second time after this
- 12:25Speaker 2: loss in Cleveland.
- 12:27Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:28Speaker 5: Now I'm looking at it more from that final play.
- 12:29Speaker 5: Maybe they did have a timeout. I thought there was
- 12:31Speaker 5: an injury timeout at some point, but I don't know.
- 12:34Speaker 5: Either way, that was a desperation play there, and I
- 12:39Speaker 5: know that the Ravens.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Tough sledding.
- 12:40Speaker 5: The Ravens came back against the Cowboys and got that
- 12:43Speaker 5: late field goal with basically one play down in Brazil.
- 12:46Speaker 4: So it's doable.
- 12:47Speaker 5: Maybe we can get some more explanation on that from
- 12:50Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy, Brian Angelico, Aaron Rogers. When we talked to
- 12:53Speaker 5: them next week, it's still a long layoff to sit
- 12:57Speaker 5: and live with this loss.
- 12:58Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 12:58Speaker 5: Is that a good thing or a bad thing, Ed,
- 13:00Speaker 5: when you've got all this extra time? I mean, it's
- 13:02Speaker 5: a bitter taste, but you get more time. You get
- 13:05Speaker 5: that mini by to, to rest up and flush it.
- 13:08Speaker 2: And you come off of a win. then you can
- 13:10Speaker 2: ride that momentum through this 10-day period. When you come
- 13:13Speaker 2: off of a loss like this, again, I'm always a
- 13:16Speaker 2: silver lining type guy, double B. So I look at
- 13:19Speaker 2: the silver lining in everything. That's why I was giving
- 13:22Speaker 2: you that secondary setup with Jalen Ramsey. You were like,
- 13:24Speaker 2: no troop. Listen, he doesn't play the outside. He's going
- 13:27Speaker 2: to be the nickel.
- 13:28Speaker 4: You never know. They can adjust.
- 13:30Speaker 5: They can tweak things on the fly if that's what
- 13:33Speaker 5: makes sense for the team.
- 13:34Speaker 2: But listen, I look at it from this standpoint. You
- 13:37Speaker 2: got 10 days to get right. You've got 10 days
- 13:39Speaker 2: to clean up the communication. The mistackling is something that
- 13:43Speaker 2: you can work on these next 10 days. Now, that's
- 13:45Speaker 2: going to take more reps and practice to try to
- 13:47Speaker 2: get better on that, and they have to. I mean,
- 13:49Speaker 2: that mistackling last night was very, very obvious. Whenever Double
- 13:53Speaker 2: B and I come back, let's look at some Steelers
- 13:55Speaker 2: statistics through the first four games, plus what's ahead for
- 13:59Speaker 2: the black and gold. And then coming up today at 3.40,
- 14:02Speaker 2: our Renegade Preview, week four, in and around the AFC North,
- 14:05Speaker 2: the AFC, and the NFL. I'm E.T., he's B.B., it's
- 14:09Speaker 2: the Steelers Report here on Steelers Nation Radio, part of
- 14:12Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.
- 14:21Speaker 3: It's the Steelers report with Brian Batko and Ed Truth
- 14:25Speaker 3: on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers Audio Network.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Well, with the Steelers game for week four behind us,
- 14:33Speaker 2: you can spend your weekend as a free agent and
- 14:37Speaker 2: do whatever you want. If you want to watch football,
- 14:39Speaker 2: there's plenty of options. College football, high school football tonight
- 14:42Speaker 2: here on Friday.
- 14:43Speaker 1: And then, of course.
- 14:44Speaker 2: Tomorrow, college, and Sunday, NFL. But tonight, not only high
- 14:48Speaker 2: school football, a couple college games, and Double B, the
- 14:51Speaker 2: Pitt Panthers head to Virginia Tech for a big one
- 14:55Speaker 2: in the ACC.
- 14:56Speaker 4: Big one in Blacksburg, two 4-0 teams.
- 14:59Speaker 5: James Franklin, Pat Narduzzi used to be on opposite sidelines
- 15:02Speaker 5: in the Pitt-Penn State rivalry. Penn State's actually playing tonight, too,
- 15:07Speaker 5: by the way, at Northwestern. I'm sure we've got a
- 15:09Speaker 5: lot of Penn State fan listeners, whether you're here in
- 15:12Speaker 5: Western PA or in far-flung places. So we'll see how
- 15:17Speaker 5: they do against the alma mater of Trey Essex, Ben Skoranek,
- 15:21Speaker 5: and some others in Chicago.
- 15:24Speaker 4: So we'll see, or Evanston, technically, I guess, where Northwestern plays.
- 15:28Speaker 5: So both Pitt and Penn State trying to get one
- 15:31Speaker 5: on the road this evening. Some really good games tomorrow, too,
- 15:36Speaker 5: across the college football landscape. Notre Dame's at North Carolina.
- 15:42Speaker 5: fighting Belichick's. Will they knock off the number three team
- 15:45Speaker 5: in the country down in Chapel Hill?
- 15:47Speaker 4: Alabama, Mississippi State. Ed, have you watched Mississippi State at
- 15:50Speaker 4: all yet this year?
- 15:51Speaker 2: They've been fun.
- 15:51Speaker 5: Camario Taylor, that quarterback, I've got a man crush on
- 15:56Speaker 5: him as far as draft prospects go. He can't come
- 15:58Speaker 5: out until 2028, but in case you haven't heard, the
- 16:02Speaker 5: Steelers just got another asset in 2028, a second rounder
- 16:06Speaker 5: to work with.
- 16:07Speaker 4: They've got a lot of picks.
- 16:09Speaker 5: They are stockpiling picks again in Reality of that, just
- 16:12Speaker 5: as we digress for a minute, is like maybe Drew
- 16:14Speaker 5: Aller or Will Howard will be the guy. Maybe they
- 16:17Speaker 5: are the next franchise quarterback for this team. But if
- 16:19Speaker 5: they aren't, you got to get one. Somehow, someway, you
- 16:22Speaker 5: got to get one. You probably don't want to pay
- 16:24Speaker 5: the piper to do so on the free agent market.
- 16:26Speaker 5: That's also kind of a risky proposition all the time, too.
- 16:31Speaker 5: You don't normally see teams let long-term franchise QBs out
- 16:35Speaker 5: of their building. If it's close, they pay them. Just
- 16:37Speaker 5: look at Brock Purdy. Look at Dak Prescott. Look at
- 16:40Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts. To me, they're three of those fringe guys
- 16:43Speaker 5: who I'm sure there were reasonable disagreements from people in
- 16:47Speaker 5: their fan bases of, should we really pay this guy
- 16:51Speaker 5: all these millions, or is he just thriving in this system? Well,
- 16:56Speaker 5: I think all three have kind of proven that, yeah,
- 16:58Speaker 5: they're worth it. I guess Hurts is... He's in an
- 17:02Speaker 5: ebb right now in terms of his usual ebb and flow,
- 17:04Speaker 5: but Brock Purdy's an MVP candidate, and Dak Prescott... Dallas offense,
- 17:09Speaker 5: they're usually pretty formidable. But this Camario Taylor from Mississippi State,
- 17:15Speaker 5: I'm very curious to see if he can dice up
- 17:18Speaker 5: Alabama's defense because he's big.
- 17:20Speaker 4: His arm is insane. He can run.
- 17:23Speaker 5: Seems like he's got the intangibles as well down at
- 17:27Speaker 5: Mississippi State. Who else is on the slate for college football?
- 17:31Speaker 2: What's the Saturday night ABC like 730 game?
- 17:33Speaker 5: Before we even get to that, how about Ohio State
- 17:36Speaker 5: at Iowa? That's a good one.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Big 10 matchup.
- 17:38Speaker 5: A lot of guys in the Steelers locker room will
- 17:40Speaker 5: have keen eyes on that one.
- 17:42Speaker 4: It's at Iowa. For both, yeah.
- 17:43Speaker 5: Yeah, number 14 Iowa unbeaten against number five Ohio State
- 17:46Speaker 5: whose only loss was to Texas. So that should be
- 17:50Speaker 5: a real slobber knocker. What's the Vegas think of that game?
- 17:55Speaker 5: They've still got Ohio State favored by 14 and a half.
- 17:58Speaker 2: On the road.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:59Speaker 1: In Iowa.
- 18:00Speaker 4: Kirk Ferentz. Get him going, buddy. Get him going.
- 18:02Speaker 5: The big Saturday night game, to answer your question, Ed,
- 18:04Speaker 5: is Miami number four at Clemson, which is.
- 18:08Speaker 4: Three and one.
- 18:08Speaker 2: That's a pretty good game.
- 18:10Speaker 5: Yeah, because Clemson got rocked early in the season by LSU.
- 18:14Speaker 5: But if Dabo Sweeney still has any juice, come out
- 18:18Speaker 5: there and protect your home field against the high-flight hurricanes.
- 18:22Speaker 2: The Saturday night games, the reason why I asked you
- 18:24Speaker 2: is that's, at least in my household, that's been a
- 18:27Speaker 2: popular activity the last handful of Saturday nights, watching that
- 18:31Speaker 2: ABC matchup. There's been some really good Saturday night games
- 18:34Speaker 2: the last few weeks.
- 18:35Speaker 4: We've also got Shaler Area Homecoming tomorrow. Yeah, that's what
- 18:39Speaker 4: you were telling me.
- 18:39Speaker 3: The Titans.
- 18:39Speaker 5: They're one of the few teams around here that still
- 18:41Speaker 5: does a Saturday homecoming game with.
- 18:43Speaker 4: A parade and floats and candy.
- 18:46Speaker 5: So it's a tradition in our community. We'll take the
- 18:49Speaker 5: kids up. I don't know that we'll stay for the
- 18:51Speaker 5: football game. They're playing the Mars Fighting Planets.
- 18:55Speaker 2: Fighting Planets.
- 18:56Speaker 5: Not alma mater, but it's where Steelers VP of Communications,
- 19:03Speaker 5: Burt Lawton, lives, is in the Mars school.
- 19:07Speaker 4: Wes Euler, right.
- 19:08Speaker 5: Here from SNR. How could I forget Wes? It's not
- 19:11Speaker 5: just Senior Director of Communications, Burt Lawton. It is We'll
- 19:14Speaker 5: go ahead and call Wes the Senior Director of Communications
- 19:17Speaker 5: at the Steelers Audio Network. So bring it on, Wes.
- 19:21Speaker 5: And that's actually Wes's alma mater. So he and I
- 19:23Speaker 5: should probably put some chicken on.
- 19:25Speaker 4: The line in this one. What do you think?
- 19:26Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to do something. Maybe like a shirt.
- 19:29Speaker 2: A shirt exchange.
- 19:30Speaker 4: The boys back home, I think the Titans are 1-4
- 19:32Speaker 4: this season.
- 19:33Speaker 2: And.
- 19:37Speaker 5: Burt was giving me some grief. He's like, what, your
- 19:39Speaker 5: team schedules Mars for homecoming? I'm like, I don't think
- 19:41Speaker 5: it's like, it's not like Pitt scheduling Bucknell. You probably
- 19:45Speaker 5: get your schedule handed to you from the whip eel
- 19:47Speaker 5: and then you, you know, maybe work around that.
- 19:49Speaker 4: But Mars is also. one in four. So maybe I,
- 19:52Speaker 4: maybe I should approach West for some skin in the game.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Kasparovic left and went back to his alma mater in
- 19:58Speaker 2: North Hills this year, but he was at Mars the
- 20:00Speaker 2: last handful years, coach Kasparovic. And he did a great
- 20:03Speaker 2: job with that Mars program, getting them back, On the map.
- 20:07Speaker 5: Well, now I'm getting kind of fired up. Now I
- 20:08Speaker 5: kind of want to stay for the Euler Batco Bowl.
- 20:11Speaker 2: You should see Wes. Wes will probably be on the
- 20:14Speaker 2: WVU wherever they were. Where are the Mountaineers idle this weekend?
- 20:18Speaker 4: No, I think they have a game. See what happens.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Steelers Nation. We lose a Thursday night game. We're in
- 20:23Speaker 2: the second hour at Iowa State. And we got to
- 20:25Speaker 2: start talking about college football.
- 20:27Speaker 4: West Virginia is at Iowa State. So I don't think.
- 20:30Speaker 4: I don't think Wes is going to Ames, but I don't.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Think, I mean, he's hardcore though. He probably does a
- 20:35Speaker 2: couple away games a year. I'm sure in between his
- 20:38Speaker 2: Steeler duties.
- 20:39Speaker 4: All right.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Speaking of the Steelers, let's get back onto the black
- 20:41Speaker 2: and gold who are coming off the loss last night, 27,
- 20:46Speaker 2: 24 to the Browns on Thursday night football, a double
- 20:49Speaker 2: B two and two. after four games. And again, looking
- 20:53Speaker 2: at just about a fourth into their season. The next four,
- 20:57Speaker 2: at home against Indianapolis after the 10-day mini-bye, and then
- 21:01Speaker 2: at Tampa Bay, at New Orleans, and then Cleveland. They
- 21:04Speaker 2: get a rematch against the Browns on November 1st, and
- 21:06Speaker 2: then their actual bye week, and they will not play
- 21:08Speaker 2: from November 1st until November 15th at Cincinnati. So let's
- 21:12Speaker 2: just look at the next four games. Indianapolis at home,
- 21:17Speaker 2: and depending on what the Colts do this week, still
- 21:20Speaker 2: should be favored i think in that game at tampa
- 21:22Speaker 2: bay good chance that they're favored in that one.
- 21:25Speaker 5: Oh speaking of the colts you know they play in
- 21:27Speaker 5: london this week so they're going to be coming off
- 21:30Speaker 5: of an international trip against the commanders and obviously the
- 21:34Speaker 5: steelers are coming off of a little mini buy so.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Maybe an advantage there hey could be an advantage weren't we.
- 21:40Speaker 5: Just making a big deal about that because who oh
- 21:43Speaker 5: the patriots had extra rest after playing They did.
- 21:45Speaker 4: That opening Wednesday night game.
- 21:47Speaker 5: And, well, they looked rested when they faced the Steelers
- 21:49Speaker 5: at Gillette Stadium. Not that that's the be-all, end-all. There
- 21:53Speaker 5: needs to be execution and things. But, yeah, I mean,
- 21:55Speaker 5: for whatever it's worth, the Colts, they will be coming
- 21:58Speaker 5: off of a game at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in London.
- 22:02Speaker 2: You got the Paris game against the Saints. That's a toss-up.
- 22:05Speaker 2: We talked about that earlier this week on the show.
- 22:08Speaker 4: Never know what to make of those. That might as
- 22:09Speaker 4: well be Thursday night football.
- 22:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Feels that way, doesn't it? And then you got the
- 22:13Speaker 2: rematch against the Browns on the first. So, you know,
- 22:16Speaker 2: good opportunity. I still think, even though.
- 22:18Speaker 5: You say on the first on November 1st, they play
- 22:21Speaker 5: the Browns on October 1st and November 1st. You know,
- 22:23Speaker 5: we mentioned bone thugs and harmony on the show.
- 22:26Speaker 2: He can bring it up again.
- 22:26Speaker 5: I didn't mention first of the month and they are
- 22:28Speaker 5: from Cleveland. Well, we mentioned first of the month, but
- 22:31Speaker 5: I didn't mention that they are, you know, they're a cleat,
- 22:33Speaker 5: probably preeminent Cleveland hip hop group.
- 22:37Speaker 4: I would think, I don't know who else is even
- 22:39Speaker 4: in the mix there, but.
- 22:41Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
- 22:42Speaker 4: Kid Cudi, is he a Cleveland guy?
- 22:45Speaker 2: I have no clue. I know who you're talking about.
- 22:47Speaker 5: That was a bad omen for the Steelers that they
- 22:49Speaker 5: were playing the Browns in Cleveland on the first of
- 22:52Speaker 5: the month. Why wasn't Bone Thugs doing the halftime show?
- 22:55Speaker 5: They had MC Light was in the building as the
- 23:00Speaker 5: guest DJ. Did you know she's in the Rock and
- 23:02Speaker 5: Roll Hall of Fame?
- 23:03Speaker 4: I did. Oh, wow. How did you know that?
- 23:05Speaker 2: I did because I was just at the Rock and
- 23:07Speaker 2: Roll Hall of Fame last year when I went up
- 23:08Speaker 2: to see the Cavs play.
- 23:09Speaker 5: Well, 2016 inductee Cheap Trick did the halftime show.
- 23:13Speaker 2: Okay. Now, who did the guitar? They showed it. Oh,
- 23:16Speaker 2: it was their former offensive lineman.
- 23:18Speaker 4: Betonio.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Yeah, he did the guitar.
- 23:20Speaker 4: What do you think?
- 23:20Speaker 2: I kind of like the guitar smashing. It's kind of
- 23:22Speaker 2: like a cool thing.
- 23:24Speaker 4: I can game recognize game, you know.
- 23:27Speaker 2: The Steelers' tradition is the terrible towel wave.
- 23:30Speaker 4: Casey Hampton did it before the Bengals.
- 23:32Speaker 2: He did.
- 23:32Speaker 5: Bring back big snack for the next one against the Colts.
- 23:35Speaker 5: Don't mess with the juju.
- 23:36Speaker 2: I also saw that they had the in-house band playing
- 23:40Speaker 2: during timeouts, too.
- 23:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:42Speaker 2: At Cleveland. Pittsburgh does that, too. Yep. They have their
- 23:44Speaker 2: own in-house band. That seems like to be the new
- 23:46Speaker 2: thing in the NFL, these in-house bands.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so.
- 23:48Speaker 4: I mean, people like live music.
- 23:49Speaker 2: In between, so I don't know. I thought it was
- 23:52Speaker 2: just a Steeler thing.
- 23:53Speaker 5: They were showing the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
- 23:54Speaker 5: inductees for this year on the scoreboard.
- 23:56Speaker 4: Phil Collins, apparently.
- 23:58Speaker 2: That's one of my guys.
- 23:58Speaker 4: How is he not already in?
- 23:59Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 24:00Speaker 5: Probably in for Genesis, I would think, but. And maybe
- 24:02Speaker 5: there's like a waiting period like there is for athletes.
- 24:05Speaker 4: I don't know. Billy Idol just got in.
- 24:07Speaker 2: Phil's one of my favorite, by the way.
- 24:08Speaker 4: Iron Maiden got in this year. Okay. There were some others, too.
- 24:12Speaker 4: Slipped my mind, but those were three that I saw.
- 24:14Speaker 2: So the Steelers' next four, Brian Backo, what do you think?
- 24:18Speaker 2: Three and one during this stretch? They have to. Okay,
- 24:20Speaker 2: let me ask you two-part. You don't have to do
- 24:22Speaker 2: the picks. We're not going to get that deep in
- 24:23Speaker 2: the weeds. But what do you think they have to
- 24:25Speaker 2: do out of these next four realistically? Went three of four.
- 24:28Speaker 2: If you go two and two, you're four and four
- 24:31Speaker 2: after eight.
- 24:32Speaker 4: I think three of four is a reasonable expectation.
- 24:34Speaker 2: That's what I'm feeling. I feel that way, too.
- 24:36Speaker 5: At that point, you'd be five and three going into
- 24:42Speaker 5: the break.
- 24:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:43Speaker 4: So that's manageable. But, man, it'd be nice to win
- 24:47Speaker 4: all four.
- 24:47Speaker 5: Because we talked about how tough that schedule gets coming.
- 24:50Speaker 4: Out of the bye week.
- 24:51Speaker 2: At Cincy, at Philly, Denver at home.
- 24:54Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:55Speaker 2: They got Baltimore twice in the back half of the schedule. Right.
- 24:59Speaker 4: And you can definitely make a case for winning. all
- 25:02Speaker 4: four because Colts, you know, you, you've had Daniel Jones's number.
- 25:07Speaker 5: And again, you know, that they are, they are a
- 25:09Speaker 5: team that's maybe on their last legs under their GM,
- 25:12Speaker 5: Chris Ballard, and even head coach Shane Steichen, who's had
- 25:15Speaker 5: the Steelers number, but not last year.
- 25:17Speaker 4: They beat them last year when the Colts came in
- 25:19Speaker 4: red hot and they were undefeated.
- 25:21Speaker 3: Yep.
- 25:21Speaker 4: And the Steelers pretty much dominated that game, right? As
- 25:24Speaker 4: I recall. Um, so that's good. They will be coming
- 25:27Speaker 4: off the London trip.
- 25:29Speaker 5: Then you've got, uh, The Tampa Bay Bucs, who are
- 25:32Speaker 5: reeling right now at 0-3, could be starting undrafted rookie
- 25:36Speaker 5: again at QB in that game. Jalen Daniels might be
- 25:40Speaker 5: able to do some things, and he'll have a game
- 25:42Speaker 5: or two under his belt by that point, but got
- 25:45Speaker 5: to like.
- 25:45Speaker 4: Your chances there.
- 25:46Speaker 5: And then, you know, Tyler Shuck, it'll be his first
- 25:49Speaker 5: international game experience with the Saints, and they've been up
- 25:52Speaker 5: and down through three weeks there at 1-2. We'll see
- 25:55Speaker 5: what they do. They've got a big one Monday night
- 25:57Speaker 5: against the Falcons at home. That's one of the better
- 26:00Speaker 5: low-key rivalries in the NFL, Falcons-Saints. So maybe they'll be
- 26:04Speaker 5: 2-2 after this week and we'll recalibrate expectations. Then you've
- 26:08Speaker 5: got to get some get-back on the Browns when they
- 26:11Speaker 5: come to Accresure Stadium.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Can't get swept by the Browns.
- 26:13Speaker 4: And that's how this rivalry has worked. Can't get swept.
- 26:15Speaker 5: That's how this series has worked in recent years.
- 26:19Speaker 4: Both teams have been holding serve at home for the
- 26:21Speaker 4: most part.
- 26:21Speaker 2: The Browns haven't won here since when? The 90s? Well.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Other than that, that's it.
- 26:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:27Speaker 2: We don't count the wild card. I'm just kidding. I
- 26:29Speaker 2: know Brian back. Oh, that's your, that's your deal.
- 26:30Speaker 4: You got to count the playoffs though.
- 26:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 26:32Speaker 5: In the regular season, regular season, they have not gotten it.
- 26:35Speaker 5: And you know, there weren't really fans in the stands
- 26:36Speaker 5: for that games.
- 26:37Speaker 2: I think three out of four, very doable. You should
- 26:41Speaker 2: beat the Colts. You should win at Tampa Bay, especially
- 26:43Speaker 2: with them being beat up. And the Steelers actually historically
- 26:46Speaker 2: have played pretty well in Tampa Bay. I don't have
- 26:47Speaker 2: that stat in front of me, but just my gut
- 26:49Speaker 2: feel tells me that they've played pretty good in Tampa
- 26:51Speaker 2: over the years. The New Orleans games in France, yes,
- 26:54Speaker 2: these international games are just like Thursday night games for
- 26:57Speaker 2: the Steelers. Last year... The Vikings game, good, right? But
- 27:02Speaker 2: other than that, I feel like they've struggled in some
- 27:04Speaker 2: of those international games, regardless of who they face, including
- 27:07Speaker 2: the Vikings back, not last year, but previously when they
- 27:09Speaker 2: played the Vikings. I know they lost.
- 27:11Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that was the last one until Dublin
- 27:13Speaker 5: was that 2013 loss in London.
- 27:16Speaker 2: And you get the Browns at home. Can't get swept
- 27:17Speaker 2: by Cleveland if you have any chance in this division. So, yeah,
- 27:20Speaker 2: maybe you have a hiccup in France, but you beat
- 27:22Speaker 2: the Colts, you win in Tampa, and you take care
- 27:25Speaker 2: of business against the Browns. Very realistic. You'd be five
- 27:28Speaker 2: and three. And there is one person, not two, just
- 27:30Speaker 2: one person on this show that had them at five
- 27:33Speaker 2: and three after eight.
- 27:34Speaker 4: That was me.
- 27:35Speaker 2: That was you.
- 27:35Speaker 4: What were you? Six and two.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Six and two.
- 27:37Speaker 4: Well, that's doable as well.
- 27:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 27:39Speaker 4: Absolutely. Keep the faith. Last night was one deflating game,
- 27:44Speaker 4: but one game nonetheless.
- 27:46Speaker 5: And yeah, the Steelers will, they'll have a chance to
- 27:49Speaker 5: make some hay here, as they say, going into their
- 27:53Speaker 5: bye week. And before we get to another break, Ed,
- 27:57Speaker 5: Couple birthdays. The late Dick Haley, former Steelers player, Pitt
- 28:01Speaker 5: football alum, Midway, Pennsylvania native, and then longtime director of
- 28:07Speaker 5: player personnel, father of Todd Haley. It would have been
- 28:11Speaker 5: his birthday today. Passed away in 2023. And then Nick Siba.
- 28:16Speaker 5: You remember Nick Siba?
- 28:18Speaker 4: I do not.
- 28:18Speaker 2: Well, you should because a deep cut.
- 28:21Speaker 5: 100 percent on field goals and extra points in his
- 28:24Speaker 5: Steelers career. And that was one game in 2022. Chris
- 28:28Speaker 5: Boswell was injured. They brought up Nick Skiba from Wake Forest,
- 28:32Speaker 5: made two field goals. I vaguely remember made an extra
- 28:35Speaker 5: point handled for kickoffs. I think he was someone who
- 28:40Speaker 5: was like in training camp with them and in the preseason.
- 28:43Speaker 5: But unfortunately, they lost.
- 28:44Speaker 4: That day at Philly.
- 28:46Speaker 2: That's definitely a deep cut. I feel like sometimes you
- 28:47Speaker 2: test my knowledge, like to see if I'm lying to you.
- 28:49Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
- 28:50Speaker 2: I remember that guy. Yeah.
- 28:52Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 28:52Speaker 2: Cause honestly, I thought your next comment was going to be,
- 28:56Speaker 2: he was the Steelers punter back in 1942. Cause you're
- 29:00Speaker 2: always good for those two.
- 29:01Speaker 4: This is more recent.
- 29:01Speaker 5: You probably watched this game and he went on to
- 29:04Speaker 5: play for the New Jersey generals.
- 29:05Speaker 2: I guarantee I did. Okay. We're going to wrap up
- 29:07Speaker 2: our number two and we come back.
- 29:09Speaker 4: How often do you pay attention to a team's kicker?
- 29:10Speaker 5: It's kind of like, Shawshank Redemption, how often do you
- 29:12Speaker 5: pay attention to a man's shoes?
- 29:14Speaker 2: Good call.
- 29:15Speaker 4: Nick Skiba just went right through your memory hole.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Yep, he did. Renegade Preview.
- 29:20Speaker 4: But he's 27 today.
- 29:22Speaker 2: 27. Look at that. To be 27 again. Well, that
- 29:25Speaker 2: wasn't that long ago for you. Renegade Preview, week four
- 29:28Speaker 2: in and around the AFC North, AFC, and NFL is
- 29:32Speaker 2: up next. It's Troop and Backo on the Steelers Report
- 29:36Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio, part of the Steelers Audio Network.
- 29:46Speaker 3: This is the Steelers report with Brian Backo and Ed
- 29:50Speaker 3: Troop on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 29:54Speaker 3: Audio Network.
- 29:56Speaker 2: Wrapping up our number two before we... Hand things off
- 30:00Speaker 2: to Wes Shuler and Matt Williamson on SNR's Drive. Also
- 30:04Speaker 2: wrapping up our week, two, not one, but two recaps
- 30:08Speaker 2: this week of Pittsburgh Steelers football double B. Oh, yeah.
- 30:12Speaker 4: Busy week.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Quick turnaround for everyone.
- 30:15Speaker 4: Tough when you've got two games in five days.
- 30:19Speaker 2: And for those listening at home.
- 30:21Speaker 5: Everybody's got to do it, at least at some point
- 30:22Speaker 5: in the season, right?
- 30:23Speaker 2: For our three fans, Uncle Tommy, my mom, and my brother-in-law.
- 30:29Speaker 2: And I have a couple.
- 30:30Speaker 4: I don't know. Did I throw out any good vocab
- 30:31Speaker 4: words this week for Uncle Tommy?
- 30:32Speaker 2: You did. You had one yesterday.
- 30:34Speaker 4: No, today, though. What was yesterday?
- 30:36Speaker 5: Trying to get one every day might get a little
- 30:39Speaker 5: bit much. But you don't want to drop any superfluous words.
- 30:42Speaker 2: Nicely done right there. You just did. Thank you.
- 30:47Speaker 4: Just to fill a quota.
- 30:48Speaker 2: Well, shout out to Uncle Tommy. He's one of our
- 30:50Speaker 2: three fans.
- 30:51Speaker 4: Hopefully he listened to the end today.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Hopefully. If he listened to the end, then he's definitely
- 30:55Speaker 2: an OG. So there's no doubt about that. But listen...
- 30:59Speaker 2: Coming up on Monday, for our fans out there, we're
- 31:01Speaker 2: going to have our top ten moments from this game.
- 31:03Speaker 2: So just when you think by Monday you put the
- 31:06Speaker 2: Thursday night game behind you, we will have some top
- 31:09Speaker 2: ten moments to get to you. Plus we'll have the
- 31:11Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy press conference on Monday here on SNR2, as
- 31:14Speaker 2: Brian said. And we always play back the Coronators on Tuesday,
- 31:17Speaker 2: so we'll hear from Coach Graham and Coach Angelico on
- 31:20Speaker 2: Tuesday of next week. They'll talk on Monday, but we'll
- 31:23Speaker 2: have it here on the show next Tuesday. But, yeah,
- 31:26Speaker 2: McCarthy will be Monday, so everybody gets a bit of
- 31:28Speaker 2: a break to refocus and get back on track. But,
- 31:31Speaker 2: Double B, I wanted to ask you real quick just
- 31:33Speaker 2: a few stats on the Steelers so far, and then
- 31:35Speaker 2: we'll get to our Renegade preview in and around the league.
- 31:38Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, through four games now, has completed 57% of
- 31:42Speaker 2: his passes at 999 yards, so only one yard away
- 31:46Speaker 2: from 1,000 in his first four games. That's an average
- 31:49Speaker 2: of 249 yards passing per game, seven touchdowns, four interceptions.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Has that met your expectations, or has he fallen short
- 31:58Speaker 2: so far? For me, 250 yards passing per game sounds
- 32:01Speaker 2: about right.
- 32:02Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, I think.
- 32:06Speaker 5: Ultimately you're going to be judged by your record at
- 32:08Speaker 5: the end of the day when you bring back Aaron
- 32:09Speaker 5: Rodgers at 42 for his final go-around.
- 32:12Speaker 4: And this team is 2-2.
- 32:14Speaker 5: I think they've absolutely had success at times because of Rodgers,
- 32:19Speaker 5: and I think he's been a detriment at times, and
- 32:23Speaker 5: you want to see it. hit more consistently. You know, the,
- 32:27Speaker 5: the arm strength is still there. It's like dumb that
- 32:30Speaker 5: people even still talk about that or even have that
- 32:33Speaker 5: take of like, wow, he can really still sling it.
- 32:34Speaker 4: Like, yeah.
- 32:35Speaker 5: I mean, obviously we saw that last year. This isn't,
- 32:38Speaker 5: it's never really been in question.
- 32:40Speaker 2: No surprises.
- 32:41Speaker 4: Correct.
- 32:42Speaker 5: But you know, and I also don't even necessarily agree with,
- 32:46Speaker 5: I'm sure you've seen this. There's kind of some people
- 32:47Speaker 5: who push the agenda that Rogers doesn't want to get
- 32:50Speaker 5: hit anymore. Well, he took five hits last night that
- 32:53Speaker 5: he probably shouldn't have taken.
- 32:55Speaker 4: I think it's just, he's seen it all.
- 32:59Speaker 5: So, you know, that there's, there's no lack of football
- 33:03Speaker 5: IQ and he's as cerebral as it comes, but maybe
- 33:06Speaker 5: it's just getting on the same page with the trust
- 33:10Speaker 5: factor with some of the receivers.
- 33:12Speaker 4: We know he's turnover averse. I think if you want to.
- 33:15Speaker 5: Like pick any knits with Rogers, it's to me, at
- 33:18Speaker 5: least it's less doesn't want to get hit and more
- 33:21Speaker 5: doesn't ever want to throw an interception. And that's kind
- 33:23Speaker 5: of a good quote unquote problem to have with any
- 33:26Speaker 5: quarterback because turnovers are costly. They can really hurt you,
- 33:30Speaker 5: but having the mentality sometimes to take those shots can
- 33:34Speaker 5: open up an offense. You know, I know some people
- 33:37Speaker 5: would work under the belief of like, if you have
- 33:40Speaker 5: a quarterback who's never throwing interceptions, that's not necessarily a
- 33:43Speaker 5: good thing because sometimes you need to put the ball
- 33:46Speaker 5: in harm's way to make.
- 33:48Speaker 4: Big things happen.
- 33:49Speaker 5: But you also, you can't, cough it up either at
- 33:53Speaker 5: times when that's going to put your defense up against
- 33:55Speaker 5: it so I'd say a mixed bag thus far in
- 33:57Speaker 5: my mind for Rodgers.
- 33:58Speaker 2: Jalen Warren 55 carries 309 yards now listen that 309
- 34:03Speaker 2: has pretty much been the last two weeks the first
- 34:04Speaker 2: two games there was hardly anything that's an average of
- 34:07Speaker 2: 77 yards per game and rushing touchdowns so far this
- 34:11Speaker 2: season zero the Steelers as a team zero rushing touchdowns
- 34:16Speaker 2: through four games i.
- 34:17Speaker 5: Never really put too much stock into that stat like
- 34:20Speaker 5: they they used to always throw that around of all
- 34:22Speaker 5: that they don't have any passing touchdowns to this point
- 34:24Speaker 5: it's like well or they have so few passing touchdowns
- 34:26Speaker 5: to me it doesn't really matter like the the passing
- 34:30Speaker 5: touchdown last night to roman wilson i mean that was
- 34:33Speaker 5: essentially a.
- 34:34Speaker 2: Rush yeah like so i don't jet sweep i.
- 34:37Speaker 5: Think over the at the over the course of the season,
- 34:40Speaker 5: if you get to the end and you're way out
- 34:41Speaker 5: of whack with your passing and rushing touchdowns, that could
- 34:44Speaker 5: be an indication of something. But I'm the type of person, like,
- 34:47Speaker 5: you get to the one, I don't care if you
- 34:49Speaker 5: punch it in on the ground or if you play action, fake, boom,
- 34:52Speaker 5: toss over the middle, tight end is wide open in
- 34:55Speaker 5: the end zone. Okay, you got a passing touchdown from
- 34:58Speaker 5: the one-yard line.
- 34:59Speaker 4: Like, whoop-dee-doo. Just score the ball.
- 35:02Speaker 2: That's it. Just get six points. Hey, DK Metcalf, after
- 35:05Speaker 2: 115 yards receiving last night, He is now your leading
- 35:09Speaker 2: receiver on the season. So the Roman Wilson run of
- 35:13Speaker 2: being the number one wide receiver through three weeks is
- 35:16Speaker 2: over because now through four weeks, DK Metcalf has 16
- 35:20Speaker 2: catches on 33 targets, 213 yards and one touchdown. So
- 35:24Speaker 2: for the season, Roman Wilson, second on the team though,
- 35:27Speaker 2: right behind DK at 188 yards receiving through four games.
- 35:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:32Speaker 5: I mean, I'd say Jalen Warren's probably the offensive MVP
- 35:35Speaker 5: to this point of the season, Ed, but you know,
- 35:38Speaker 5: DK Metcalf is coming on now in these last couple
- 35:41Speaker 5: of weeks.
- 35:42Speaker 4: And, you know, the struggles.
- 35:44Speaker 5: Against New England hurt, but I don't know that him
- 35:46Speaker 5: making some plays is going to win you that game.
- 35:48Speaker 5: You know, they lost 20 to three, but let's let's
- 35:52Speaker 5: get it rolling now. And if he can be at
- 35:54Speaker 5: his best when the schedule picks up, you're going to
- 35:56Speaker 5: feel like you certainly have more firepower and ammunition to
- 35:59Speaker 5: go against some of those defenses and offenses for that matter.
- 36:03Speaker 2: Defensively, well, let's just talk about it because we're on
- 36:06Speaker 2: a time constraint here. TJ Watt, four and a half
- 36:09Speaker 2: sacks through the first four games of the season. Had
- 36:12Speaker 2: another sack last night against the Browns. Derek Harmon, a
- 36:15Speaker 2: sack and a half so far this season. Peyton Wilson,
- 36:18Speaker 2: a sack. Of course, we know Alex Highsmith also having
- 36:22Speaker 2: a good start to his season. A little bit quiet
- 36:23Speaker 2: last night, though, on Highsmith on the stat sheet, right?
- 36:27Speaker 4: That's a good left tackle.
- 36:29Speaker 5: Good young left tackle for the Browns, for Spencer Fano
- 36:32Speaker 5: out of Utah.
- 36:33Speaker 4: Reason why he was kind of.
- 36:35Speaker 5: A consensus top 10 pick in in this past draft
- 36:40Speaker 5: he ends up going ninth overall to Cleveland and looks
- 36:43Speaker 5: like he's going to be uh he's going to be
- 36:44Speaker 5: a dude for a while.
- 36:45Speaker 2: In this game Highsmith with three sacks so far for
- 36:48Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers that's just a quick look at stats
- 36:51Speaker 2: through the first four weeks so far for the Pittsburgh
- 36:54Speaker 2: Steelers let's now talk about what's ahead here also.
- 36:57Speaker 5: Give you some quotes from last night's game how about
- 36:59Speaker 5: I give you my favorite Please. Or maybe the most
- 37:02Speaker 5: significant quote in my mind from each guy who went
- 37:04Speaker 5: to the podium. So that was Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers,
- 37:07Speaker 5: and TJ Watt.
- 37:08Speaker 2: Let's do it.
- 37:08Speaker 4: Start with McCarthy.
- 37:09Speaker 5: Someone asked about the five sacks on Aaron Rodgers. Here's
- 37:14Speaker 5: what he had to say. We had some protection challenges.
- 37:16Speaker 5: They did a good job up front. It was a
- 37:18Speaker 5: five-man pressure, man-to-man game. They established that right from the beginning.
- 37:22Speaker 5: That's the challenge that we went up against all night.
- 37:24Speaker 5: It was herky-jerky. When you play those games, it's who's
- 37:26Speaker 5: going to make the big play. You have to step
- 37:28Speaker 5: out of tackles. You have to separate. You have to
- 37:30Speaker 5: give him time to get through the progression. I think
- 37:32Speaker 5: it was an aggressive game plan by them. I kind
- 37:34Speaker 5: of expected some of it, but I thought it was
- 37:36Speaker 5: a very competitive environment tonight, and we were one play short.
- 37:39Speaker 2: He likes that herky-jerky comment.
- 37:40Speaker 5: He does seem to mention herky-jerky. I think we're two
- 37:43Speaker 5: for two on herky-jerky after losses and maybe even after
- 37:45Speaker 5: one of the wins.
- 37:47Speaker 4: But, no, I mean, I think that's pretty much right.
- 37:49Speaker 5: We didn't even get into, yeah, how much man coverage
- 37:51Speaker 5: the Browns played on the back end and whether teams
- 37:54Speaker 5: are going to try to look at that as the
- 37:55Speaker 5: blueprint to match.
- 37:58Speaker 4: Up with the Steelers' offense.
- 38:00Speaker 5: Receiving core but if they do I don't uh I
- 38:03Speaker 5: don't even really have an issue with that I think
- 38:05Speaker 5: that they the Steelers can adjust to that and uh
- 38:09Speaker 5: and they can work against that because you know Tyson
- 38:13Speaker 5: Campbell wasn't covering DK man-to-man uh on that pivotal final
- 38:17Speaker 5: drive um and you know we'll see what uh see
- 38:21Speaker 5: what the Colts come in here I don't think Lou
- 38:24Speaker 5: Anarumo is mainly a man guy. I mean, I'm sure
- 38:28Speaker 5: he mixes it up, but I think he was more
- 38:29Speaker 5: known for zone, at least in his Bengals days. Now
- 38:33Speaker 5: he's the second year DC for the Colts, but yeah,
- 38:37Speaker 5: I don't know that the Colts have as many horses
- 38:40Speaker 5: in the, I don't think they have a corner as
- 38:41Speaker 5: good as, well, they've got sauce gardener. So I, I
- 38:44Speaker 5: shouldn't say that, but you know, Denzel Ward's pretty darn good.
- 38:47Speaker 5: And he showed it last night.
- 38:49Speaker 2: I sure did with that big interception.
- 38:52Speaker 4: Let's look.
- 38:52Speaker 2: Do you have any more quotes? I don't want to
- 38:54Speaker 2: cut you off.
- 38:54Speaker 4: You've got a couple more. I didn't get to Aaron
- 38:56Speaker 4: Rodgers or TJ Watt yet. Go ahead. Yes, absolutely.
- 38:59Speaker 2: We've got plenty of time here.
- 39:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:01Speaker 4: All right, so here's.
- 39:04Speaker 5: What Rodgers had to say when he was asked, and
- 39:07Speaker 5: he wasn't very vocal after the game. This isn't the
- 39:12Speaker 5: one that I'm going with, but someone said, what did
- 39:13Speaker 5: you guys unlock during the fourth quarter in the last drive?
- 39:16Speaker 4: He said, DK. That was it.
- 39:20Speaker 2: I heard that. Yeah, I heard that. And he's right.
- 39:22Speaker 4: He's not wrong. Yeah. So I'll just say, you know,
- 39:29Speaker 4: someone asked him to. about the quarterback sneak.
- 39:31Speaker 5: We talked about it earlier from my quick six on
- 39:33Speaker 5: Steelers dot com. But here was his actual explanation. He said,
- 39:36Speaker 5: I felt like there was no chance they'd be expecting that.
- 39:38Speaker 5: I just told them in the huddle, if I can,
- 39:41Speaker 5: if I can, this one, which is like the signal,
- 39:43Speaker 5: I'm going to sneak it.
- 39:44Speaker 4: They had a shade and a three technique. I was like,
- 39:46Speaker 4: all right, I can probably get a yard. And he did.
- 39:49Speaker 4: So that was good.
- 39:50Speaker 1: T.J.
- 39:50Speaker 5: Watt also, you know, he's someone who no time for
- 39:56Speaker 5: the moral victories, obviously. And he's always so frustrated after
- 40:00Speaker 5: these games. But here's what he said about the mood
- 40:04Speaker 5: of the team at halftime being down 21 to 10.
- 40:08Speaker 4: We always have faith.
- 40:09Speaker 5: Anytime you have eight at quarterback, you see those guys
- 40:12Speaker 5: move the ball up and down the field all the time.
- 40:14Speaker 5: We're just trying to give those guys a chance. And
- 40:15Speaker 5: we didn't do it tonight.
- 40:17Speaker 2: And he's not wrong either.
- 40:19Speaker 5: People always, I think, don't try to drive a wedge
- 40:23Speaker 5: but wonder if it's a game like week one where
- 40:25Speaker 5: the defense did all the heavy lifting or you're.
- 40:27Speaker 4: Getting ticked off at the offense. Or even week two,
- 40:30Speaker 4: it was even worse.
- 40:31Speaker 5: The defense actually played pretty well against Drake May and
- 40:33Speaker 5: the Patriots, but three points on the board. Last night,
- 40:37Speaker 5: it kind of went the other way. The offense did
- 40:39Speaker 5: their part early, did their part late. The defense did not,
- 40:42Speaker 5: but TJ Watt, believes in aaron rogers i'm sure aaron
- 40:47Speaker 5: rogers and company believe in tj watt and cam hayward
- 40:50Speaker 5: and that most of the time those guys are gonna
- 40:53Speaker 5: they're gonna keep teams off the scoreboard so yeah i
- 40:55Speaker 5: mean it's it's not the end of the world this
- 40:58Speaker 5: guy's not falling not pushing the panic button but uh
- 41:02Speaker 5: yeah that was uh that was a gut punch of
- 41:03Speaker 5: a loss no doubt.
- 41:04Speaker 2: A roller coaster of a ride through the first four weeks, right? Atlanta, hey,
- 41:08Speaker 2: we were on the up. We won the game, but
- 41:09Speaker 2: we didn't feel 100% confident. Not as good as we
- 41:12Speaker 2: did after that Bengals win, and I'll get to that
- 41:15Speaker 2: in a second. But felt good. Hey, you win a game,
- 41:18Speaker 2: you win a game. It was an ugly win. I
- 41:19Speaker 2: think everybody kind of agreed for that. Patriots felt way down.
- 41:23Speaker 2: I mean, it felt almost pretty much how it feels
- 41:24Speaker 2: right now. Because you came right back up the following
- 41:27Speaker 2: week against the Bengals. You pulled out at the end.
- 41:29Speaker 2: The offense looked better. Divisional win, and you beat the
- 41:32Speaker 2: Bengals at home. Great. And then you turn around last
- 41:35Speaker 2: night and you're hoping, you're hoping you can get by
- 41:38Speaker 2: this Thursday night. I don't want to say jinx or curse,
- 41:40Speaker 2: but they haven't played well, especially in Cleveland on Thursday nights.
- 41:45Speaker 2: But this morning, of course, after that loss, you kind
- 41:47Speaker 2: of feel how you did after the Patriots game. It's
- 41:50Speaker 2: been a seesaw up and down through four games, Double B,
- 41:52Speaker 2: two and two.
- 41:53Speaker 4: And you know what?
- 41:54Speaker 5: I guess if you ask me right now, I wouldn't
- 41:56Speaker 5: mind another trip to Cleveland this year because that would
- 41:58Speaker 5: mean you're in the playoffs for sure.
- 42:00Speaker 4: That's right. That's right. Go back to Cleveland.
- 42:04Speaker 5: And you'd rather finish ahead of Cleveland, obviously, in the
- 42:06Speaker 5: division so that you're not playing on the road.
- 42:09Speaker 4: But, you know, you get in the dance, and that's
- 42:12Speaker 4: kind of where it starts.
- 42:13Speaker 2: Renegade preview week four. Real quick, we'll just hit the
- 42:16Speaker 2: AFC North games. The Bengals, 2-1, will host the Jaguars, 2-1,
- 42:20Speaker 2: 1 o'clock on Sunday. This is a good one to
- 42:23Speaker 2: watch if you're a Steeler fan. Should be a pretty
- 42:26Speaker 2: good matchup between the Jaguars and the Bengals.
- 42:29Speaker 5: Two big cats getting after it. I guess the other
- 42:32Speaker 5: big cat team would be the Carolina Panthers, right? Are
- 42:34Speaker 5: there any other big cats in the NFL?
- 42:36Speaker 4: I think that's it.
- 42:39Speaker 2: A lot of birds.
- 42:40Speaker 4: A lot of birds.
- 42:42Speaker 2: We could spend a whole segment talking about the different
- 42:44Speaker 2: birds teams. Bengals, Jaguars, Panthers. I think that's it. I
- 42:50Speaker 2: don't think you're crossing any other.
- 42:51Speaker 4: No Wildcats. No Bearcats, whatever those are. No Cheetahs.
- 42:55Speaker 5: I wonder if the Cheetah Tyreek Hill is going to
- 42:57Speaker 5: be back in the NFL at some point soon here.
- 42:58Speaker 4: He was tweeting.
- 43:00Speaker 2: He might be.
- 43:01Speaker 5: His Twitter fingers were working the other day about how
- 43:03Speaker 5: he's ready to get off the couch.
- 43:05Speaker 4: He wouldn't mind some cold weather.
- 43:07Speaker 2: Let's start that whole thing up again. Steelers should go
- 43:09Speaker 2: out and get Tyreek. Let's go down that rabbit hole again. Okay,
- 43:12Speaker 2: the other one.
- 43:12Speaker 5: And then Brandon Ayuk while they're at it.
- 43:14Speaker 2: Oh, boy. The other one here, that's where we are
- 43:17Speaker 2: after this loss on Thursday night. The other one is
- 43:20Speaker 2: the 0-3 Titans at the 2-1 Ravens. Now, listen, Brian,
- 43:24Speaker 2: before you jump to conclusions of should be an easy
- 43:28Speaker 2: Ravens win, what has the NFL taught us through the
- 43:30Speaker 2: first three weeks of the regular season? Don't assume anything.
- 43:34Speaker 2: Never assume.
- 43:35Speaker 4: And the Titans have been close in some of these games.
- 43:37Speaker 5: Now, close doesn't get you anywhere at the end, but
- 43:41Speaker 5: their last two games against the Eagles and the Giants,
- 43:43Speaker 5: they lost by four and five points.
- 43:45Speaker 4: Cam Ward threw a pick in the end zone.
- 43:47Speaker 5: As they were coming down there to score against the
- 43:50Speaker 5: John Harbaugh G-men. And the Ravens are coming off of
- 43:53Speaker 5: that thrilling win in Brazil, but I guess that's not
- 43:56Speaker 5: quite as much of an ordeal coming from the same
- 43:59Speaker 5: time zone, I think, right?
- 44:00Speaker 4: Brazil and the U.S. It's right under us. I think.
- 44:04Speaker 5: I'm not a geography guy, but South America, we're North America,
- 44:08Speaker 5: and it might be a little easier flight than coming
- 44:11Speaker 5: from across the pond.
- 44:13Speaker 2: I would think so. It should be a lot easier
- 44:15Speaker 2: than that. That's going to do it for our show
- 44:17Speaker 2: for today and this week. We'll recap the NFL games
- 44:20Speaker 2: from Week 3 on Monday's show, and we'll get ready
- 44:23Speaker 2: for the Mike McCarthy press conference on Monday, too. It'll
- 44:25Speaker 2: be good to hear from Coach McCarthy after a few
- 44:28Speaker 2: days of this loss settles Steelers Nation down by Monday.
- 44:33Speaker 2: Enjoy your weekend, everyone. Up next, it's Wes Shuler and
- 44:35Speaker 2: Matt Williamson on SNR's Drive. I'm Ed Troop alongside Brian Bacco.
- 44:39Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the Steelers Report right here on
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