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John Street Interviews Chachi Horgan: The Intersection of Faith and Mindset Work · Revolution of Purpose Podcast

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What if some of the mindset principles we're tempted to call woo-woo
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aren't actually New Age at all? In this conversation with Cha Chi
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Horgan, we explore the surprising intersection of faith, mindset,
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identity, and the timeless principles that may have been
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hiding in plain sight all along. Welcome to the Revolution of
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Purpose podcast. I'm your host, John Streit, and each
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week we bring you conversations with thought leaders, entrepreneurs,
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and individuals who have aligned their life with purpose
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and created extraordinary results. So I'm gonna live through it and accept
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it radically with grace and hope and love. I mean, I would
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be proud to be in this council. It was an honor. I had so much
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fun. Tune in every Monday for the Revolution of Purpose solo show and every
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Thursday for Revolution of Purpose Conversations.
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Welcome back to another Conversations episode of the Revolution
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of Purpose podcast. My name is John Streit, and I'm so thankful
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that you're here with me today. One of the things that I love most about
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these conversations is getting beyond what someone does and discovering
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who they have become along the way. And today's
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guest has a story that I think fits this perfectly.
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Chachi Horgan is a mindset coach with Avenus Consulting,
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where he helps entrepreneurs and individuals
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create greater clarity, shift their thinking, and move from
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defensive living into more intentional action.
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But Chachi's own journey into this work is what I find
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particularly interesting. A few years ago, he was working as a realtor
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in Maine, and life wasn't necessarily falling apart,
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but there was just something inside of him telling him that there was something more
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that he needed to experience. And so Chachi listened to that voice.
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He eventually left Maine, moved all the way to Florida, started his own
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business and continued following a path that ultimately brought
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him back to what he describes as his true calling.
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He is helping people experience abundance and live with greater
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joy and greater alignment. He also is someone that I've had the
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opportunity to have some fascinating conversations with about mindset,
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about identity, and about spirituality and faith
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in particular. So I have a feeling that we're going to go
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into some really interesting directions today.
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Chachi, welcome to the Revolution of Purpose podcast. I'm so
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glad you're here. Thank you for that intro. That was,
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uh, amazing. Uh, it's an honor to be here. It's always great to
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be in your presence. Uh, a bit of a full circle moment. Uh, I think
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we'll get into that maybe at some point later on, but from, uh, from where
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we first started on our first phone call Uh, just a couple of
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years back, maybe a year, year ago now, uh, which is crazy to think about.
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Um, but yeah, I'm excited to be here and, uh, looking forward
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to the, to the podcast. It absolutely is a full circle
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moment. You know, you're right. And we will, we'll talk about that because I remember,
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you know, having that phone call with you and discussing how like
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both of us coming from the Christian faith, how that actually works with mindset
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principles and things. And, and yeah, I'm excited to dive into that with you.
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Um, But I do begin every single one of these episodes with
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the same question. And so I, I cannot
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wait to hear your answer to this. Chachi, who are
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you today that your younger self would be proud
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of? That is a fantastic question. I think perfect
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timing too, because I think now more than ever, I would say
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I am my authentic self. At least I
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would say I'm the most authentic that I've been in my life,
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um, at this point right now. So I, I think my younger
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self would be super proud of that because I would say at that point that
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younger self is more authentic, right? There hasn't
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been those experiences that may have began
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to, to limit, um, the self, or maybe some embarrassing
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experience or different things that kind of have you starting to,
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to shy away from who you truly are. Um, so to have
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gone through that just like we all do and be in a position where I'm
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at now, I think my younger self would be most proud of that.
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That is fantastic. And it's such a good point. You know, when we are at
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our youngest self, like, that's— it's when we're the most authentic and innocent.
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It's before we're taught what we cannot do. You know, it's before
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people instill in us our limitations that we didn't
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choose, they chose for us, you know. And so, yeah, I think you're right.
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I think that's amazing. And just from you know, having the pleasure
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of knowing you, you know, more personally than just on the podcast or through
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coaching, I know that you are living a more and
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more limitless life every day. Like you just keep awakening to more and more
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of your authentic identity. And I think that's where our power is. You know,
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our power is in our authenticity for sure.
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100%. I think that's, that's really like the purpose
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of life, right, is to transcend those restrictions,
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limitations, and things that we've picked up along the way to
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really get back to ourselves. And I think I think when we're there, that is
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truly— you hit it on the head— like, that is our magnetism.
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When we're fully authentic, that's what's going to attract the, the most people,
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the right people. And it's just going to be a much better way of
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living life with yourself because you're, you're never going to get
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away from yourself. So to be able to have that relationship with self
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that is non-judgmental and just more expression, uh,
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it's way better. Oh, that's huge. So were you always
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someone that like sensed there was maybe more to life
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than what you saw right in front of you? Were you questioning things?
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Like, what about young Chachi? You know, was there a time before
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you had this kind of awakening that it was sort of already underneath
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and for you? Yeah, I would say there was always another
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level of curiosity that was there. Like I said,
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like you mentioned before, I was raised Catholic.
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I always believed in God to some extent.
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I think what that looked like throughout my life has changed
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so many different times. But especially early on as
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a kid and teen age years,
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even up till high school, really before I got
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a TV in my bedroom, I would say, I would just lay awake at
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night just like talking to God or like just asking like,
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what is this all about? Like everything that like society and
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parents and, anyone that was in my circle was telling me about like
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the world and life and heaven and like all those things, it just
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never— I was like, it just— there's got to be more.
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It's— there has to be another level of understanding that
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I'm able to obtain, um, because I just felt like that
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wasn't necessarily just it, right? And I think that's a very 3D way
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and a very normal way us as people kind of view those things.
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But I did have that curiosity of like going deeper and
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just like, what does it all mean? Um, and I think it's funny, like we
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joke with friends now of like, I thought that was normal too. And I think
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it is to some extent. But I think, you know, I think
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other, other kids were thinking about other things at that time. And I'm
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like, why am I here? Just like, you know what I mean? Like, they're probably
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thinking of all of this. Yes. Yes. I need to know more like this.
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This isn't it. So, yeah, they're like, come play
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Hot Wheels. And you're like, why do we exist? Yeah. What,
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what are Hot Wheels and how does that relate to me and my purpose here
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on Earth? Exactly. And how can I manifest a real Lamborghini?
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Not just a small one. Yeah, no, that's awesome.
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Well, and you know, I kind of, so,
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you know, you mentioned being raised Catholic, you mentioned God. And I mean, let's go
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on and kind of delve into this because the way that we
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met the first time, uh, when, um, you,
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uh, you were not yet, I think, working with Adam of Venus on his
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staff, but he was a mindset coach of yours and he's a mindset coach of
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mine. And I remember he reached out to me. And said, um, you know,
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hey, I've got a client who, uh, has a similar background
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and faith from, uh, the Christian religion like you do. And he has some questions.
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Would you like to connect? And I was like, yeah, let's, that's awesome. Let's,
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let's do it. And so we hopped on a phone call and had
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some really kind of deep conversations about how faith plays into
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this type of mindset work. And I think it's really cool because a lot
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of people don't really address that, you know, there, To me, a lot
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of things in mindset have this just woo-woo connotation.
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People just think it's so out there, but I kind
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of feel like there's a whole lot, not just in the Christian faith, but in
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all of the major religions from Christianity, all of the Abrahamic religions,
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as well as like some of the Far East religions. Like there are
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so many mindset principles that show up in almost every major
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religion and philosophy in the world. So let me ask you,
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what, what are some ways that you sort of reconciled your Christian
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faith with sort of the mindset work that you do today?
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Yeah, I think that's such a deep question. And, you know,
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we could probably talk for another 50 minutes just on that.
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I think in the beginning, especially when we
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were jumping on a call, there was so much fear in
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like doing the wrong thing or doing something that was like blasphemous,
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right? Like even having curiosity felt like uneasy.
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Easy. And I think that just kind of exposed where I was at
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within my relationship with my religion at the time and
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faith. It was like so fear-based, right? And I think that's a lot of times
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where, um, whether that's any religion or whether
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that's, um, you know, how you're raised Catholic,
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that fear-based mentality of that, that like is the driving
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force of your belief, is to me just like backwards.
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Right? Like, it just doesn't make sense to be so fearful
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of a God that is just love, right?
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Agape love, pure love, joy.
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And I think that's a human thing that we kind of do. But I think
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at the base of it, it was really starting to understand,
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like, do you actually have faith? Or are you just scared not to
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have a relationship with God? And that just feels like, think about like
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being in a relationship. Like, are you in love with that other person?
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Or are you just like, fearful that that other person's like going
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to leave you and that's the drive. It's just not a healthy relationship.
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And we wouldn't consider it a healthy relationship within each other here on earth.
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So why would that be our relationship with God? So I
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think that's really where that started.
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And that was tough for me in the beginning.
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Like there was a lot of feeling like, am I doing something woo-woo?
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Am I doing something wrong? And what I've learned through that was like,
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I was really just cutting off my own curiosity before
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it was able to begin. And as I'm able to step into
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more of this work and just learn more, I've really trusted my intuition
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and what I feel to be true and what I feel not to be true.
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So now instead of being just like fearful that I'm doing something wrong,
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like I truly trust myself that like this is leading me closer to a better
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relationship with God. I'm going to feel it. So why wouldn't I explore anything
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and everything, right? And like help people honestly um,
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bridge that gap for themselves. I feel like that's part of a purpose
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here for me. Um, so coming to like where I've come to
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that with my faith now, um, I think there,
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there's so, there's so many crossovers in, in religion.
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And I think a lot of times religion can just be,
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um, divisive when it just, it, it doesn't need to be.
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I think in so many different ways we are saying the
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same thing, but we just have different labels or terms.
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And because of that, then we argue and
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like tell the other person, no, your way's wrong, this way's wrong. Like,
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that to me is just where I get lost with religion.
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And this is like obviously like where I'm at right now. I'm excited to
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continue to explore and step
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into that more myself. But where I've come to now
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is having that relationship with God is most important.
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And I come back to Jesus a lot. That was obviously, he was a big
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part of my life growing up. Being raised Catholic, but in this
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work it's only brought me closer to him and
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closer to understanding him and closer to understanding like what
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his purpose was and, and, you know, strengthening my, my faith
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in that. Um, so it's— it feels for
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the first time really, it feels like I actually do have faith.
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Yeah, you hit on something so huge too.
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A lot of things are just a difference in terminology.
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Like, a lot of the principles are the same. You know,
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you may have a spiritual person refer to karma, and you
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may have a Christian refer to sowing and reaping, but it's the
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same principle, you know. And you may talk about, like,
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um, you know, where, where the Bible says, according to
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your faith be it unto you. And you may have a mindset coach say,
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if you see it in your mind, you can hold it in your hand.
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Like it's the same thing. Like, like, you know, I love in,
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uh, in one of the coaching courses that I teach, the Revolution of Purpose coaching
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course, I talk about how, um, you know,
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the Bible has 3 different scriptures that I think really sort of go
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together and prove out this work. And one is that God gives us
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the desires of our heart. And I believe that means that God puts the desires
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in our heart. That we are supposed to kind of go after.
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Like, like growing up, I was taught, oh, well, if I desire
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it, I can have it. And that's manifestation, right? I desire a Cadillac,
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so poof, I'll have a Cadillac. But I realized at some point, no,
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God's giving me those desires. Like, I am,
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I am not separate from God. The things that I desire are there because
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if God gives me the desire, then he's going to give me the capability to
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do it. So he gives me the desires of our heart. And then there's the
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scripture that says out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.
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And then there's a scripture that says, in the tongue is the power of life
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and death. And right there, you put the 3 of those together, and they
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basically are giving an absolute biblical,
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uh, explanation of what we believe in mindset world of,
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of speaking your reality into existence and the
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power of energy and thought and all of that. And I think that
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this whole work does not have to be separate from biblical
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teaching or separate from whatever religion you come from.
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It actually is proved out over and over again in so many of these
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things, just in different terms. 100%. And I'm so glad
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that you're, you're on the call and able to like pinpoint those specific—
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because there's like 10 that I have in my head that they always like,
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you know, just float away at the time that I want to bring them up.
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But there's been so many more even throughout like reading more
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of the Bible and, and how I'm able to read the Bible and, and relate
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to it and, and have this work as a background to be able to understand
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some of those things a bit more has been great. Um, and like you
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touched on too though, like the separation, right? Like it doesn't have to be—
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we create separation and, and everything,
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right? Like, and when you talk about the quantum field, like the
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thought and the experience— Joe Dispenza says this all the time— happens instantaneously.
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Happens at the same time. There's no separation. There is no time.
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But us as the humans, as the vessel, we create the separation.
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We create the time, right? We create the separation from ourselves
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and nature in the universe, thinking that we're separate, right?
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And then we create separation between each other, thinking that you
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are not me and I'm not you and we are separate. That's just a human
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thing to create that separation that really just doesn't need
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to be there. Absolutely. You know, taking it
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back from a biblical perspective, again, we're joint heirs with Christ. I mean,
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we, you know, right there, when you think about
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the fact that the same, the same power
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that created the universe, the same power that is still,
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you know, creating this ever-expanding universe,
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is the same power that is flowing within us. And when
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you realize that we're tapped into that power, that we're joint heirs with Christ,
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or even those who are from different religions can still say,
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oh, well, they, they understand that this, this, this God
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that is so huge is also minute and living in our smallest
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subatomic particles in our body. And so it's beautiful to think
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that we have this life force within us. And when you start to wrap your
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mind around that, you realize you truly cannot fail,
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you know. And, and that's where in mindset coaching we talk about
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how everything is happening for us instead of happening to us. And the biblical
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way to look at that is all things work together for good, you know.
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I mean, it's still, again, it's saying the same thing but in different words.
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And that has been freeing for me because there have been so many times
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in my life that I look back and I'm like, this was such a hard
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season. And when I was going through it, I just felt like I was alone,
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or where was God in this for me during this period?
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But now when you look back in it, you can still see God's hand there.
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You can still see this higher power that's
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greater than me was still working things out for my good,
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even if it sucked to go through at the time, even if it was absolutely
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terrible. I can see that that's when I grew, and that's what
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kept helping me become the identity of the person I am today. And so,
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yeah, I, I just, I love the, I love the thought
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of just this whole intersection of faith and mindset coaching. And,
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you know, if you think of some of the OGs in this, you know,
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some of the, like Neville Goddard, you know,
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or Napoleon Hill, both of them were, were followers
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of Christ. Now, Neville Goddard, you know, was a huge believer in,
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in like Bible-based principles, but he did take it to like the
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metaphysical side and sort of the quantum physics and that. So let
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me ask you kind of that question. Where do you think God fits into the
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whole quantum leap, quantum physics
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and all of this? Do you think that is an expression of God? 100%.
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And I'm glad I was going to bring up some of the greats as well.
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So I'm glad you did that. I don't think God fits into that. I think
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God is the quantum, right? Like everything is God.
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Like, and like you talked about before,
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We are just experiencing that here. We're having— we
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are the universe having a human experience, right?
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We're not humans experiencing the universe. And that goes back to that separation that,
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that we create. Um, so I, I think that God
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is everything, right? So when I was getting in more into this work,
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um, well, first off, to kind of just start off with being
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an entrepreneur Right? And, and that's a whole journey within
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itself. And, and tapping into that entrepreneurial world and,
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and figuring out like, okay, what are some of the greats doing
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that have achieved high levels of success?
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It's like no matter where I looked, I could not escape this
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specific type of mindset work and like manifesting
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and the thought, like the how powerful your thoughts are, how they— like
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I just could— like I would read this book and I wouldn't even think that
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they were— it was like that type of book. And maybe it wasn't the whole
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book, but there was at least one section or part about it. So it's like
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everywhere I looked, I was like, all right, I can't escape this. Like, this is
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the way. Like, this is it. And then when I started diving more into the
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greats of that specific work— Thomas Troward, Napoleon Hill,
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Neville Goddard— I couldn't escape the Bible
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and Jesus. Like, it was all pushing you back towards that,
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but in a, in a different understanding, right? In a different way of,
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um, kind of their expression of that.
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So that's where it all started to come together for me was like, okay,
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like there's so many things that are just pushing me
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in the universe, pushing me towards this mindset work. And then there's
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so many things that are also pushing me towards my, my faith in, in Jesus
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and God. So it was like, all right, even those things don't have to— they
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are actually not separate, they are one. And it,
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and it, it just makes sense. Of course it's, it's all connected, right?
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Yeah. So have you found Because you're probably like me, a lot of
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my clients are from different faith traditions and some from no faith
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traditions. I always tell everybody when, when we have our first talk
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about if I'm a good fit for them as a coach, that I've
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had clients that are agnostic, who are spiritual, who are Christian, Muslim, Jewish,
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Buddhist. And basically the only
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clients that don't usually resonate with me are people who are just flat out
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atheists. They don't believe there's anything greater or anything bigger, any higher
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power. And I have no judgment there. That's, that's their belief and it's
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fine. But it just runs so contrary to what I believe.
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Like, I believe the quantum field, like you said, is God. It's all God.
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And, and, and that no matter what you believe, as long
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as you believe there is something higher, then we have that together.
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How are— how have you noticed when you're coaching people
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from different faith backgrounds your own faith sort of
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still playing a part without sort of saying, no, you have to believe exactly the
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way I believe for us to have anything in common? Yeah, I think
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that's a great question. I think that's something that I still like work through,
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right? And I, I'm still, um, learning. I'm newer into this,
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uh, mindset coaching journey myself. Um,
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so for me, I think coming back to
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like embodiment is always,
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uh, like the first step. And I think that was something
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that I learned through this work. There were so many awarenesses
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and things that I was learning that I wanted to then
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like quote unquote force onto other people, especially those
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that are closer in my circle, because I probably had fears that
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like, well, if they don't think it, then they might be able to change my
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opinion. And like, well, I want to change them as well. And like wanting
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to do it like with words, right? Or, or somehow
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like teaching them. And like, and I wasn't even embodying
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it myself first, right? Like, I'm just gaining these awarenesses. So I
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think it works in the same way. Like, if I'm embodying— you can't transfer
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what you don't have. So if I'm embodying my faith,
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that is going to speak more volume in these coaching sessions
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and these calls and things like that than anything that I can say Right,
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on those calls, they will feel that, that will be something that may open
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the door for them a bit more to, to understand. Because my goal is
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to help people, you know, reach joy and achieve abundance,
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like true abundance in my— in their lives. Right. Like that's out of
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Venus Consulting. Like that's what we are about.
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Having said that, I do believe that me embodying
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my highest and best self is going to just naturally attract
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those clients to their highest and best self. That makes sense. So that
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doesn't necessarily mean changing their faith by,
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by any means, but I do think that opens the door
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for them to be receptive of the way that I'm
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then coaching. Because I, I will say
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things with like Jesus in there, and maybe somebody doesn't necessarily
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believe it, but maybe that's something that they're like, oh, that actually does
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make sense. Now maybe they're viewing you know, in their relationship with, with Jesus
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is, is different, right? Or, or however that might come to be.
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But I think that embodiment is, is where it starts.
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Well, and I think that like you talked about earlier about the separation that sometimes
24:11
religion causes, if we're in fear, then fear
24:16
is telling us, well, you've got to convert everyone you
24:19
meet. Where actually what we're saying is,
24:22
you know, again, you can go back to scripture. We all work out our own
24:25
salvation and fear and trembling. So we all have our own, our own path to
24:30
whatever that looks like. And I think that if we just live our
24:33
authentic self and we're flowing in our creator,
24:37
which is love, then our very existence
24:41
is going to help meet people where they need to be met.
24:44
And so it's not about conversion or they're going to,
24:48
you know, die and go to hell. And I'm so fearful that I didn't do
24:52
my thing. No, it's just understanding that people come
24:55
from different faith traditions and that it's okay to let them believe
24:59
the way they believe and me believe the way I believe and find a place
25:02
of, of, um, respect for each other and
25:06
then flow in what we do have in common, this amazing
25:10
greater higher power. You know, Bob Proctor calls God
25:14
Source, and, you know, Neville Goddard calls God God,
25:18
and then I've— or Napoleon Hill Spirit, like, you hear
25:21
all these different words, but we're all talking about the same thing.
25:25
And when we can give enough space to have differences without trying to
25:29
make sure everybody believes exactly the way we do, that's where we find growth.
25:32
That's where we find friendship. That's where we find connection. And I think
25:36
there is no greater way to flow in our divine
25:39
creator than in relationship, you know,
25:43
in, in those things we have in common.
25:45
100%. I think so, so often, I,
25:49
I think, like you said, we create that separation anytime
25:53
we bring in judgment. I think that's where things start to, to get
25:57
dicey, uh, for, for us as, as humans, right? And like how
26:00
we judge others, right? And that's a great reflection of like how we're actually judging
26:04
ourselves and loving ourselves, uh, which is, you know,
26:08
just a, a funny thing that us humans Um,
26:12
but yeah, I think, I think that makes, uh, a lot of sense.
26:15
Um, I think for,
26:19
for me, and going back to that embodiment,
26:23
I think a lot of times there's no, there's no proof or
26:27
data or numbers behind this, right? But I think you could have somebody
26:32
that is Hindu that may be living
26:37
a more Catholic life And without even them
26:41
knowing it, believing and embodying like Jesus
26:45
per se, more so than somebody that's talking the talk of
26:48
Catholicism. Right. And it's, it's going back to that labelism
26:53
just because they haven't said the words that you say,
26:56
that then we either cast judgment or then try to change
27:01
because we need to save them for some reason. Right. And I think
27:05
like if it just in Catholicism alone, if Jesus is
27:08
the North Star, how did he do it? He did it by
27:12
embodiment and just purely being.
27:16
And that was so magnetizing. And his aura of just
27:20
what he was as in, in his true being was so
27:24
transformative. So that is— that's beautiful,
27:28
Chachi. I mean, that is— that is exactly it.
27:31
Embodying, you know, love God and love your neighbor.
27:34
That is a universal commandment that we can all find
27:38
common ground in. And that was, those were his 2 greatest
27:42
commandments. And I think, you know, I, I think that we can all
27:45
find that. My, my Muslim clients, my Jewish clients,
27:49
my spiritual clients, my Buddhist clients, they all can agree on let's
27:53
love our higher power. Let's love our neighbor. And when we flow in that love,
27:57
we're embodying that. We're flowing in that, that quantum
28:01
field. We're flowing in that Christ consciousness. We're flowing in
28:05
that, that is bigger than ourselves. One of my favorite quotes,
28:08
um, actually comes from Rumi,
28:12
and it is that we are not a drop in the ocean. We are the
28:15
entire ocean in one drop. And I just love that because
28:19
we are all connected. And for me to look at my
28:23
friends in Pakistan or my friends in South Africa or, or my friends
28:27
in Canada and be like, no, we're, you know, we're not connected. No, we absolutely
28:31
are. And we don't have to be connected in doctrine.
28:35
Even Christians aren't connected in doctrine, you know,
28:38
and we're not going to always be connected in theology. And the church I was
28:42
raised in growing up is not the same type of church I go to now,
28:45
and all that is different. But we can be connected in
28:48
love. And I think if we believe that this higher power,
28:52
that God is love, then the more that we
28:56
flow in that love and connection, the more we're embodying our higher power.
29:00
Um, so yeah, what you said was, was beautiful and it, yeah, sent me
29:04
on sort of that tangent, but I love that. So I want to kind
29:08
of delve into now, I wanted to kind of get into this early
29:12
because I feel like your relationship with God sort of shapes everything.
29:16
So let's go into a little more of your story, Chachi, and tell me,
29:20
how did you end up going from Maine to
29:23
Florida, I guess. Did you just want to become Florida Man? Like, you kept
29:27
reading these headlines about Florida Man, you're like, I could beat that, you know?
29:31
Like, how, how was it? Was there an awakening? What happened in Maine
29:36
that took you to Florida? And then I have a follow-up question about that
29:40
on awakening. But yeah, how did you end up in Florida, first of all?
29:44
Yeah, I think that I just saw people wrestling alligators and I was like,
29:47
I think I can do that. I'm there. I'm there.
29:51
No, I think honestly, I was, I was at
29:55
kind of like a tipping point in my life where like I had achieved,
29:58
quote unquote, like success or what I viewed success
30:02
as at the time and just still felt
30:05
like there was some emptiness right there. It just like still wasn't
30:09
it. So I was still in that like, I'm certain, like, what, what, why do
30:13
I feel this way? Like, what, why, what is this pulling me towards?
30:17
And I couldn't shake it, right? Like, I was happy, things were good, but like,
30:20
just couldn't shake this feeling. So I was very open to things
30:24
changing at that time. Um, I actually moved down to Florida,
30:29
um, with an ex-girlfriend. So that was something that was,
30:32
you know, part of my experience and journey. And the relationship didn't survive
30:36
the move, uh, and that, you know, had— that could be a whole nother
30:40
podcast. But, um, I, I think it's funny enough,
30:44
um, she actually had a dream of moving
30:48
to Florida. She was like, she just woke up one day, I was like,
30:52
you know, had the dream, I think we should kind of explore it. And I
30:54
was like, cool, let's do it, right? And I, I think I
30:58
love my openness to that, right? And I think it,
31:02
it was meant for me and expanded me. And there's, you know, the growth
31:05
that I've experienced since that decision is, uh, huge.
31:09
At the same time, uh, I didn't really know where I was going and
31:13
I was kind of floating. Right? And so what brought me down
31:17
there? My ex-girlfriend had a dream, right? It's as simple as that. Uh, and,
31:21
and I wanted to get out of the cold. So I do think that that
31:24
led to when things, uh,
31:27
started not to work out in, in the business, you know. And I was getting
31:31
into this mindset work but nowhere close to really understanding
31:34
it or embodying it. I did have like a moment of like,
31:38
what the heck just happened? Like, yeah, I'm living with my parents
31:42
now. I, I don't own any more real estate. I don't feel like
31:46
I'm financially secure. I don't have a girlfriend anymore, and I'm in a complete— like,
31:50
that happened in a year, in the blink of an eye. And I think part
31:54
of that had to do with, you know, not being intentional and,
31:58
and really knowing what I wanted. So I, I was kind of floating
32:02
around with, with the universe. Luckily,
32:05
universe had my back, uh, and was growing and expanding me,
32:09
um, during that entire process. But I do think that that,
32:13
you know, intentionality is important. Please pardon this interruption to
32:17
your podcast episode. This will not take but a minute. Before we continue, I want
32:20
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32:24
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33:45
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33:49
Well, and do you think when all of that is gone,
33:53
all of a sudden you don't own real estate, all of a sudden you
33:57
don't feel financially secure, all of a sudden you're back living with your parents,
34:00
all of that just changes so quickly. That forces
34:04
you to really see who you are without all of those labels,
34:08
right? I mean, did that really have a lot to do with your identity and
34:12
figuring out who you truly were? Single,
34:15
back at home, not having the financial stability that
34:19
you once had. Like, what did that do for your identity?
34:22
Everything, right? Like, I think to be connected
34:26
truly to my authentic self, like all of those distractions needed
34:29
to go away because that's what they were. And what I realized was like,
34:33
you know, at the time I never considered myself like wealthy, right?
34:36
And that, that's a whole nother conversation of self-identity and, and all
34:40
of those things. Um, but where I was at, I never considered myself
34:45
like wealthy, but I, I was living comfortably, right?
34:48
I was living a good life. Um, I didn't think I had enough money
34:52
in the bank for it to like lean on for
34:56
my confidence. And I didn't think that, like, I was a confident
35:00
person before. I didn't realize how much of, like, my identity and confidence
35:04
I put into my partner, right? So all these things get stripped
35:08
away, and, like, I, I was as, as close to what
35:12
I would consider, like, depression as, as possible for
35:16
me in, in my life, right? And it felt like rock bottom. And what I
35:20
realized was Like, not just like my identity and who I was, because that was
35:23
a big question. It's like, who, who am I? Like, what do I want
35:27
to do? What do I like to do? Like, you know, um, figuring that out
35:31
was a, was a journey. But also that I didn't, I didn't love myself.
35:35
And not in a way of like I like hated myself, but like when all
35:39
of those things went away, all of those crutches that I didn't know were crutches,
35:42
and I was just left with just me and like my being
35:46
I, I felt so low, right? And I felt so ashamed and
35:50
I felt so worthless. So it was like a moment for me
35:54
to truly understand what loving yourself, just your
35:59
pure self, not because you've achieved this or done this—
36:02
like, I got that, that chance to love myself at that level.
36:07
And I think that that is a, like, just such a blessing, right?
36:11
Because a lot of times people come into this work and, and they get
36:15
to experience loving themselves, um, but maybe they never get to
36:19
that low, right? Like, maybe they don't really know if they got to that
36:22
low, are there more layers or deeper love that they can find for just
36:27
their pure existence and what they truly are? I think
36:31
that's, that's so, um, that's so well said.
36:34
And, you know, I, I— so growing up, I grew up in
36:38
a different faith tradition than you did. You grew up in Catholicism, but I grew
36:41
up in like a charismatic Pentecostal sort of Word
36:45
of Faith type of thing. And, and like, I was always taught
36:48
that, you know, God doesn't test us. We don't, you know, we may
36:52
go through things, God works out, God doesn't test us. And I think
36:56
I've realized looking back through life, there are things that absolutely
37:00
I think were put there to test me. I think now that
37:04
God, it's how God uses the universe
37:08
to our good. And so, because there are things that we have to go through
37:12
to make us the person we have to be to live our purpose.
37:16
And so, you know, I believe that
37:20
when you look back at that famous Steve Jobs quote, you can't connect the dots
37:24
looking forward, you can connect the dots looking backwards. This time that
37:27
you went through set the stage for who
37:32
Chachi became as a mindset. Coach. I mean, is that fair to say?
37:36
100%. Um, I have a deeper level
37:40
of, um, you know, connection and a deeper
37:44
level of experience and knowledge that I get to bring to my clients to
37:49
help them through maybe a similar situation or to help them avoid
37:53
a similar situation. Um, and I think that's something too,
37:56
is like you can't connect the dots, uh, always when
38:02
you're in it. But now looking back, I, I truly am grateful for it.
38:04
I understand, um, why it was there and how
38:08
it helped me grow to where I'm at right now. But I can also
38:12
see how I created it. Like, there, there were, you know,
38:16
where focus goes, energy flows, and, and all of the mindset work
38:20
with all of this stuff. You better believe before
38:23
I was, you know, broken up and before I hit
38:27
that financial spot and before I moved in with the parents, that, that was a
38:31
big fear of mine, all 3 of them that I focused on, right? And I
38:35
thought I was doing the right thing by focusing on them.
38:38
Yeah. So I could avoid them. And what I didn't realize was I was just
38:42
creating it, right? And creating it and creating it. So I think it's a double-edged
38:46
sword where it's like, I do believe that those like low moments,
38:50
like you can rise from the ashes and, and you're going to grow and
38:54
expand, uh, in greater ways because of it. But being on
38:57
the other side of it, I also do believe that you don't have to have
39:00
those in order to grow, right? Like, now I get to
39:03
grow in just the harmonious and, and graceful
39:07
and easy way, um, and grow faster
39:11
and grow to new heights and new levels, uh, and just in that awareness
39:15
and belief. That the most amazing thing to
39:19
me about things happening for us instead of to us.
39:22
When— whether they happen because they are out of our control or they
39:26
happen because we absolutely caused them to happen, still,
39:30
thankfully, God, the universe works it all for our good.
39:34
Somehow good will come out of it. And that gives so much faith
39:38
and comfort, especially when we screw up. Yeah. You know,
39:41
especially when we go through a period where we know we're like, yeah, man,
39:44
manifested this because I was afraid of it for 6 months solid.
39:48
And then, you know, like, at least we know somehow we're learning
39:52
from this. Somehow we're going to get through this, and it's going to,
39:55
it's going to give us something for our testimony, our story,
39:59
something that we can help somebody else with. So where
40:03
does this story that you went through from
40:07
moving to Maine to Florida, where does this fit in with experience
40:11
that you had in Banff, Canada? Because I definitely want
40:16
you to tell the story of what I feel like, from knowing this story about
40:19
you, was an identity shift that you had in Canada
40:23
at the, you know, at, at the, um,
40:27
the, uh, conference in Banff. So yeah,
40:30
how does this fit into that? And then will you share that story with us?
40:34
Yeah, I'd love to. So I, I think it kind of started back,
40:37
um, a little bit before Banff, um, I joined
40:41
a high-level mindset coaching program,
40:45
uh, and, uh, it was a
40:48
stretch for me. Like I said, I was financially in a spot,
40:52
um, I don't even know— Mom and Dad, stop listening. I don't, I don't want
40:56
you to, uh— I don't even think my family knows, uh, to,
41:00
to the extent that I went through these things. But, uh, I was just at
41:04
a point where financially, like, I, I wasn't what I would say was secure,
41:07
right? I think that's a normal way, a 3D way of looking at finances.
41:12
Um, and I, I knew there was a
41:16
calling, there was a desire to be in this coaching program. So it was
41:20
$25,000 for a 6-month program. Uh,
41:24
so I listened to my intuition and I listened to my desire and I
41:28
stepped in into that program paid in full, right? And I was like, I'm gonna
41:32
find a way to pay it in full. Like, I'm going all in. I'm not
41:35
doing like the you pay month to month and like you're half in,
41:38
half out. Like, no, let's rip the Band-Aid. You're gonna put in what
41:42
you're gonna get out of it. So paid in full. And through that,
41:46
I found 3 things happened.
41:50
One, somehow somebody started mentioning like
41:54
0% interest credit cards for business. So I got—
41:58
I found— I like started to go down that avenue, got $50K in credit
42:03
line for for the business that I had, which helped pay for—
42:07
like, I put some of that on those credit cards, right? So that's,
42:11
that's where like half of that came from, which also
42:15
ended up going forward helped me through some slow seasons of
42:18
that business as well. So it wasn't just a blessing to get me— it also
42:22
was like beneficial for where, where I was at in the business.
42:26
Um, so that was one. The other thing that came to my, to my mind
42:29
was I bought a new car recently. Uh, it's a car that I love,
42:33
but it was no means my like dream car, right? I wasn't like,
42:37
I don't want to let go of this. So I sold it, uh, and like
42:41
swapped it out for, for another new car and got $16,000 back
42:45
in cash and kept the same car payment. So that went
42:49
towards it. And the day after I made the decision to
42:53
join that program, I received 2 calls from
42:58
real estate clients back in Now, this was in June
43:03
that I made the decision. I had done no lead gen for
43:07
Maine real estate at that time. I still held my license. And I had done
43:11
zero real estate deals up until that
43:15
point. And out of the blue, 2 people called
43:19
me, both wanting to buy and sell their current house or sell their current and
43:23
buy a new house. So that revenue was $19,000
43:28
that came in, not right away, but just through those real estate deals,
43:32
just out of nowhere, right? So it's like, because I stepped into that
43:36
desire, I was fully supported. Now you can—
43:40
oh, they were coming either way. Maybe, maybe they were, maybe they weren't, but I
43:44
was supported either way, right? So I was able to step
43:48
in and make that decision. So that was, that was huge to begin with.
43:51
With that came a live event in Banff that
43:56
the Mindset program was putting on. It was Puneeth and Joel. You know,
44:00
I know, you know, Puneeth. And Puneeth's been a guest on this podcast.
44:04
Yeah. Yeah. Master P. Can't, can't say enough good things
44:08
about Puneeth. And he's been a huge part of my journey.
44:11
And so with that, there was that Banff event and
44:16
it was included in the ticket. Obviously, like you buy your own flights and room
44:20
and stuff like that, but like the actual event ticket price was included
44:24
in the program that I had joined. Now,
44:27
I still almost didn't go to Banff. Like, I still had all
44:31
of my paradigms that I was like kind of letting seep in. Like,
44:34
don't like flying, that's 2 big flights, right? Like,
44:38
so that was one. The other one was like, I can't leave like the
44:41
business right now. I feel like I can't like physically leave because I ran
44:44
a short-term rental company. I didn't want the house— like, I had a runner,
44:48
but like I just because, you know, just paradigms, right? That I'm like, I have
44:51
to be here physically. And then the other was that
44:55
I didn't have the finances to even just pay for the,
44:58
the flight and the rooms and stuff like that. Felt uncomfortable. So I
45:03
at one point talked myself out of going to Banff. And then once again,
45:06
I listened to like, no, you're feeling called to go there.
45:10
The highest version of you, $100K a month Josh, goes to Banff.
45:14
He goes on these trips, he gets on those long flights, he does those things.
45:17
So I was like, there you go, he gets in those rooms. Yeah.
45:20
And he was— yeah, that's what he does. It was so obvious. So I
45:24
just, I listened to that. I was like, all right, family called, I'm going.
45:27
Went to Banff, ended up completely changing my life. One of the best experiences
45:31
that I had. You talk to anyone that was at that event,
45:35
they'll have nothing but good things to say. Like the, the time we had
45:39
with each other, like it just like through and through, the level of the room,
45:43
it it was amazing. And you're in Banff, like, and you're in these expansive
45:46
mountains, and like, you just get to remember like, oh yeah,
45:49
like that beautiful lake and expansive mountain that
45:53
like the universe— that's the same thing that created me. Like, you just
45:57
have that, you know, environment to, to be able to grow and expand into.
46:00
So, um, at the event is where I met Adam of Venus.
46:04
Uh, he was, uh— it was a joint event with my mindset coaching
46:08
program at the time. Um, and he put me on the spot at the event.
46:12
I think he asked if people were— anyone like wanted
46:16
to do something that they weren't doing, right? And I was like, I want to
46:19
be a mindset coach. He was like, okay, are you a mindset
46:23
coach? I was like, no. He just kind of like paused and
46:27
he was like, are you a mindset coach? And I was like,
46:30
yes. I don't know, like, I'm Ron Burgundy. You want me
46:34
to say yes, so I'm gonna throw it out there, but I ain't coaching mindset
46:37
right now. Uh, and then he like snapped back and he was like, are you
46:40
a mindset coach? And I was like, yes,
46:44
in front of everyone. He was like, all right, we'll see,
46:48
right? And that's all, that's all he said. And I was like, this guy,
46:51
I'm gonna, I'm gonna show him, right? So, uh, I made a decision, right,
46:55
that I didn't need to wait until I was a
46:59
millionaire. I didn't need to wait till I was in my 40s or 50s because
47:03
these are all paradigms that I had that I was holding myself back. I made
47:06
the decision that no, I am a mindset coach, right? And it was easy to—
47:09
easier to make in the room in an expansive environment.
47:13
And then when I went home, I had to see if that was a real
47:16
decision. I had to make the decision again. Am I going to follow through?
47:19
So spoiler alert, I'm on the call now as,
47:24
as a mindset coach. Uh, so I, I did. I stuck
47:28
with it and Completely changed my life. And that, that was about a year ago
47:32
earlier this month. Um, so even
47:35
crazier that I probably called you like a week or two after that. So we're,
47:39
we're, this might be one year to the day that we first
47:42
had that phone call, which is, which is crazy. It absolutely could
47:46
be. Yeah. I, um, yeah, I, I love,
47:51
well, first of all, it took, it took an
47:55
identity shift for you to be able to answer and call your shot. In front
47:59
of a room full of people. And then it took your identity shift when
48:02
you got back home to really make that decision.
48:05
I love, you know, Bob Proctor talks about how every time we make a decision,
48:08
we make it twice. We make it the first time that we say we're going
48:12
to do something. And then we make it the second time when we actually break
48:16
through what he calls the terror barrier, when we break through the fear of
48:20
actually putting action behind that decision. And so you went home and
48:24
were like, okay, I've called the shot in front of a room full of successful
48:29
people, and this is what they do. And this is what, this is
48:32
what I'm gonna do. And, and you followed through with it. And I'm so glad
48:36
you did because what you are doing in mindset coaching is
48:40
going to change lives because you're flowing in your purpose,
48:44
you know? And that's, that's the whole, that's why I asked you to be on
48:47
this podcast. The only people who I interview are people who I feel like are
48:49
flowing in their purpose. Purpose. If it had been a year ago and you were
48:53
still doing all the other things and not mindset coaching, you wouldn't be sitting here
48:57
because you were— you're thinking about flooring and your purpose, but you made
49:02
the difficult decision to give up, to give up of the old
49:06
titles, to give up the old identity, to become the Chauncey
49:09
Horgan who is a mindset coach. And I'm so glad you did because you've,
49:13
you've touched my life, you touched the life of so many people that you come
49:16
in contact with. There are people that you will be able to coach that will
49:20
resonate with you that wouldn't resonate with me, that wouldn't resonate with Adam of Venus,
49:23
wouldn't resonate with Puneeth. There are people that you can coach that need
49:27
your authentic light. And so, I'm so glad you said yes to that
49:31
and yes to that calling and that intuition. So appreciative
49:35
of even you saying that because I think, you know, as being a coach,
49:38
like when you have somebody tell you like, you changed
49:42
my life, or you like even like, you just made my day. So much better,
49:45
or you made me feel better, have this aware—
49:49
like, that's just— it just feels so good, right? Like, you feel
49:52
more aligned with your purpose. It's a reminder of like,
49:55
okay, this is why, right? This is why I'm doing it. This is why I
49:59
made those decisions. Um, so yeah, I'm just grateful.
50:02
Absolutely. Let me, let me ask you—
50:06
I know we're getting kind of short on time, so I have a couple more
50:09
questions, but One thing we did talk about there is kind of intuition.
50:14
So how do you know when something
50:18
down deep is an intuition? And is that the same
50:22
as like from a Christian perspective being led by the Holy Spirit, or is
50:26
that the same as God kind of prompting you to do something? Like, how do
50:29
you know what that voice is and how you're supposed to answer
50:33
it? Yeah, I think it's such a good question because
50:37
I think the intuition is truly our inner guiding force, right? And as coaches
50:41
now, especially with like Adam, that's what we say all the time is
50:45
like, we're teaching you how to trust your intuition. We're not like giving you like,
50:48
hey, you make this decision. We're not telling you what to do because
50:53
only you know what's going to be best for you. We're connecting you
50:57
to that intuition, to that inner guiding force. And that has been night and day
51:00
for me where it's like I've always had that and I
51:05
would say like trusted it to an extent, but also would always like second guess
51:08
it. Or I always wanted somebody else's opinion on it, right? Like that. I was,
51:11
I was the guy like, before I make a decision, I need to call my
51:14
friends and I need to talk it out with them before
51:17
I make a decision, right? And maybe I don't go with their decision, but just
51:21
hearing them talk about it, like, then I'm going to be more secure in my
51:25
decision, whichever way that is. And it couldn't be more opposite now
51:28
of like, I make my decisions. I still talk
51:32
with my friends and I will still, but a lot of times it's like after.
51:36
Right? Like, after the decision was already made, still talking about the experience,
51:39
because I trust my intuition and, and my guiding force to
51:44
the end, right? Like, and going to God first and
51:49
going to silence first, right? Which is an awesome reminder.
51:52
Sometimes that's like— I even forget that. I'll be on a call with Adam
51:56
and I'll be like, I'm doing all these things, this is— and he's like,
51:59
have you taken it to God yet? Have you sat in silence? And I'm I
52:03
knew I was forgetting something. Uh, so here— no, that,
52:06
that's the first thing, and I, I haven't done that about this yet,
52:10
so let me go do that. Um, but I truly think that
52:14
that is like your guiding force. It's, it's where those decisions come from. So when
52:17
you understand what, uh,
52:20
that intuition is, and, and, and it kind of goes towards desire as
52:24
well, and like the, the right energy, uh, to step into,
52:28
like the the right type of desire, I think that's when you're aligned,
52:32
right, with God's will. I think that's where you— when
52:36
you're in alignment with God's will, God's will is going to be your highest
52:40
and best achieving. So it's only going to be aligned with that version of
52:44
you. It knows what's best for you. So that's when you're truly powerful.
52:48
Yeah. So, um, uh, would you say
52:52
that being in alignment with God's will is the same
52:56
as manifestation? I mean, is that, is that,
53:01
or is that the point of manifestation? I don't know. I, I do know that
53:05
like it's almost triggering for me to hear someone say being aligned with
53:09
God's will because I grew up in, in a church that was like, if you
53:13
fall out of God's plan, then you're living plan B, plan C, plan D.
53:16
And I, and I had to kind of unlearn that to realize that no,
53:19
I, you know, I can, I can get back in
53:23
it, you know. I can be in, you know, I can co-create with Christ.
53:26
I can manifest God's will in my life, and I can live that. And so
53:30
I think maybe, um, maybe that's sort of where my question's coming from.
53:33
Like, if, if we get out of alignment— ah, that's the
53:37
question— is getting out of God's will the same as getting out of alignment?
53:41
Yes. So the second question, I would say yes. Yeah,
53:45
I think that's what unalignment is, right? And I think it goes back to like
53:48
It's like, because we say God's will,
53:52
then it's all of a sudden we create— we can create separation,
53:56
right? And then we're like, well, what if I don't want God's will? And that's
54:00
the ego speaking. And it's like, no, you do. Like, that's the point
54:04
of God's will. Like, it is the infinite intelligence. It knows
54:08
fully what's best. And when you're— it's your guiding force to
54:11
help you get to the version and train transcend to the
54:16
version that you truly want, like what your soul's desire
54:20
truly wants, right? And I think like, I, I believe that's,
54:23
that, that's for everyone. I don't— that's not like a religion thing.
54:26
I think that's, yeah, purpose of life, right? And when you're in that alignment,
54:30
and it goes back to like so many different religions
54:34
and so many different ideologies talk about like aligning, and, and it's like
54:38
everyone has their little spin on the— it's the same
54:42
same. At the end of the day, the core is the same. It's alignment with
54:45
the higher intelligence, with God, with the all-knowing, for what's best
54:49
for you, and for you to live out that expression in your
54:53
own individual way, in your highest and best purpose, to live
54:57
a life of the most joy, the most peace, and in
55:01
alignment with your soul's desire. Well said. And I'm so glad that you said that
55:05
because that prompted me to bring that up. Even in real time, were like,
55:08
oh wow, he just tapped into some of his like religious trauma,
55:11
you know? Because I'm just like, oh, I hate that term. But yeah, but when
55:15
you look at it, it's just a different terminology. It's like we said earlier,
55:19
it's living in alignment. And who doesn't want to live in alignment? It's basically,
55:23
do you want to be at peace and enlightened and happy?
55:27
And when you ask it like that, the ego goes out and it's
55:30
like, well, of course I do, because that's what I truly want. You know,
55:33
100%. I think that— I think that's so good. And I, I love
55:38
this conversation because I love, you know, just you having that
55:42
awareness in and out of itself. And I— that was an awareness that I've
55:46
had like through other people, right? Where like I— like I've
55:50
had clients say like, I just don't like the word God. And like that for
55:53
me is just such an awareness, right? So like the word God
55:57
is not inherently good or bad. It's revealing something inside of you.
56:01
It's your reaction to it. So for me, right,
56:04
and this is where I embody it, where like before I would want to teach
56:07
and be like, okay, no, we got to change that because there's something that you
56:11
need. And it's like, no, I just take that, right? Like I'll let them be.
56:15
But then I also know for me and how I live, I, I will never
56:19
let a, a word, right, trigger some sort of negative
56:24
response. Because that's just— it's just
56:27
a word. So how am I going to let that word— it's,
56:30
it's only if I have a negative response, it's only showing me that there's
56:34
negativity in there that gets to be transcended.
56:38
So that word then isn't triggering anymore, because for somebody else,
56:41
that word could be like so uplifting, right? Absolutely.
56:46
That's, that's huge. Okay, so as we wrap it up, I have a quick
56:50
lightning down for you, Chachi. And, uh, and then I'll pose my,
56:54
my closing question. But quick lightning round. Um, first appropriate
56:58
thing that comes to your mind. Um, so good clarification. Good clarification.
57:05
I was gonna say the hard way hosting a podcast. Yeah, I was
57:09
gonna go with Happy Pockets Full of Money, uh, but I'm only halfway through
57:14
it, uh, and I'm reading it right now, so I just think it's top of
57:17
mind. Thoroughly enjoying it, but I don't think that can be my
57:20
pick since I haven't finished it. Um, so I, I will go with,
57:25
um, Psycho-Cybernetics. That was, that was
57:29
a favorite of mine for sure. It was, it was up there.
57:32
Awesome, awesome. What is your favorite food?
57:36
I will go with, uh, pizza. I'm Italian.
57:39
I like buffalo chicken pizza, although I am gluten-free.
57:42
So that has taken a big hit towards the level of pizza
57:47
that I, that I'm able to have. Luckily nowadays there's great options though,
57:51
and I'm still a sucker for it. Yeah, awesome.
57:54
So I know anyone that watches this, a lot more people watch the
57:58
YouTube version of this than just listen to it, and that's because they get to
58:02
see my dog lounging in the background. And you have a dog named Cassie.
58:05
What type of dog is Cassie? Yeah, so it's actually
58:08
Kari. Uh, the only— sorry, no, you're good.
58:12
The only reason why I'm correcting you is because she's in the room and she's
58:15
a little sensitive. Uh, she is, she is a,
58:19
a golden English golden retriever. Um, so if I
58:23
didn't have this fake, uh, virtual background behind me right now, you would
58:26
see her lounging, uh, lounging on the ground there. It looks
58:31
very real. The background looks good. And then, uh,
58:34
last of the, uh, of the rapid-fire questions: have
58:38
you ever gone viral for twerking in
58:42
Nashville? Uh, thinking back,
58:45
yeah, I think there was this one time that I, uh, I may or may
58:49
not have twerked on the sidewalk of Broadway in
58:54
Nashville for a Bachelorette tour bus party, and it may
58:57
or may not have achieved over 10 million views
59:01
total on social media platforms. So yeah, that, that checks out.
59:04
That checks out. Speaking of true, true authentic, uh,
59:08
authentic, right? Like I was stepping into my authenticity and it was magnetic.
59:13
You were twerking into your authenticity. Yeah, I'm still
59:16
trying to figure out how to, you know, mesh the twerking with the mindset
59:20
coaching, and then we're really cooking with fire. I haven't figured it out yet.
59:24
We'll get there. We'll get That's amazing. That's amazing.
59:28
So, um, so if people— so yeah,
59:32
if people like Google Chachi Horgan Nashville
59:37
booty dance, is that how— like, how will they find that video? Yeah, I,
59:41
I don't even honestly— I, I think that I've deleted TikTok
59:46
since. I think the TikTok handle was Chach in the Car,
59:49
and I was like posting. I started doing like car karaoke videos.
59:53
I think I, like, I created the account, I posted in the same day
59:58
like 3 car karaoke videos and that dancing video. Oh wow,
1:00:02
same day, like first day. Took off and just took off.
1:00:06
And it was— I didn't even know at the time it was being filmed.
1:00:09
My buddy just like saw it. He knew I was, I was walking out there,
1:00:12
he knew I was gonna start dancing. He pulled out his phone and started filming.
1:00:16
And yeah, it blew up. That is amazing. Amazing, man. So here's
1:00:20
the final question for today. What, um, what is
1:00:24
one thing about purpose that you think most
1:00:27
people are missing? I would say the biggest thing with purpose that people
1:00:32
are missing is— and I felt, uh, victim to this
1:00:35
as well— is they're trying to find it. They're searching for
1:00:40
it. They think it's something that's outside of them, but it's
1:00:44
within. And, and you know what your purpose is. Now, there may be
1:00:47
things in the way, but you know. Absolutely. You do not create
1:00:52
your purpose, you awaken to it. And yeah, you don't,
1:00:56
you don't have to find it. It's not outside of you. That is, that's amazing.
1:01:00
Um, so Chachi, if someone's listening today, they want to connect with you,
1:01:04
what social media, what's the best way to, uh, to follow you,
1:01:08
connect with you, Chachi? Yeah, definitely not the Chachi in the car TikTok.
1:01:12
Like I said, I deleted that. I can't believe it.
1:01:16
Well, the video is still up, I just don't have the app, so, uh,
1:01:19
you can go check that out. Um, Instagram,
1:01:22
chachi.horgan, uh, simple. You can find me there.
1:01:26
Um, also, I, I work with the Venus Consulting, uh,
1:01:29
so Adam of Venus's Instagram is just his name as well, Adam of
1:01:33
Venus. Great content on there too. Um, especially if you're newer to
1:01:37
this material and you want to get a feel for that, feel free to,
1:01:40
you know, check that out. Um, but yeah, I would say to reach out,
1:01:43
DM, and, uh, happy to, uh, to chat,
1:01:46
talk more, connect. Absolutely. And I'll put,
1:01:49
I'll put all that in the show notes as well, Chachi. And just
1:01:53
thank you so much for being here. Thank you for sharing so much, for being
1:01:57
so authentic. It was every bit of the conversation I
1:02:00
hoped it would be. So I'm so thankful you were here, Chachi. Yeah, very appreciative
1:02:05
of the invite. And like I said, truly a full circle moment. And I'm excited
1:02:09
for, you know, our friendship and our future conversations and
1:02:13
seeing you again. So much appreciative. That sounds great.
1:02:17
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1:02:21
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1:03:30
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1:03:33
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1:03:38
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